February 23, 2024 • 67 mins
Embark on an extraordinary journey with Audrey and Britt Hancock, founders of Mountain Gateway, as they recount their life's mission from the heart of Latin America to the challenging landscapes of Mexico and Nicaragua. Witness the inception of a movement dedicated to conquering adversity and spreading hope, where thousands of children are rescued from the clutches of human trafficking, and communities are united under faith. This episode is not just a tale of missionary work; it's an exploration of the human spirit's boundless potential when driven by unshakeable conviction and love.
Within the Hancock family's story lies a rich tapestry of inspiration woven through their adaptation to a life less ordinary in Mexico. Imagine a home constructed from market crates, homeschooling adventures that defy conventional settings, and the profound bond forged in the crucible of living without modern comforts. Their experiences illuminate the remarkable resilience of a family whose unity becomes their greatest strength, revealing the transformative power of embracing challenges with creativity and grace.
In an unexpected shift to the struggles facing religious freedom, the narrative takes us deeper into the political turmoil of Nicaragua. The Hancock's relentless fight for justice amidst government oppression and wrongful imprisonment of local pastors paints a vivid picture of courage in the face of adversity. Listeners will be moved by their call to action as we explore how collective advocacy and support can ignite change and uphold human rights in this complex and politically charged arena. Join us in this profound dialogue that underscores the essence of community and the significance of standing firm for one's beliefs.
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Gregg Phillips (01:11):
All right, everybody.
It's Greg Phillips.
Welcome back to Patriot Games.
We have a special episode withtwo just amazing people.
They're great friends.
They're people that areexperiencing religious
persecution in a way that Idon't think everybody can fully
understand.
For all of you that follow myshow and have prayed for them
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and with them, these are thepeople that were leading the
prayer crusade in Nicaragua, andwith that I just want to
introduce Audrey and BrettHancock of Mountain Gateway, and
guys, I love you, I'm so gladyou're here, I'm so glad you're
safe.
But we got some things to thinkabout.
Britt Hancock (01:52):
So great to be here, Greg.
God bless you.
Audrey Hancock (01:54):
Thank you for having us.
Gregg Phillips (01:56):
So, brett, can you just give everybody just a
few minutes of Mountain Gatewayand how y'all got here, and then
I'll jump over to Audrey andwe'll go through what it's like
to bring a family up in themission field.
Britt Hancock (02:11):
You bet.
We first left the United Statesin January of 1996 to become
missionaries.
The first country that we livedin was Paraguay, south America.
Our youngest son was born there.
We had four children, two boys,two girls.
After Paraguay, we went tolanguage school in Guatemala to
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learn Spanish and then we movedto Mexico in late 1997 to start
working in small Mexicanindigenous villages in the
mountains as church planters.
So we did that for a long time,full time, from 97 until 2012.
(02:55):
And then we launched MountainGateway in 2012 because the Lord
had really touched me that hewanted us to begin to train
missionaries.
So we got into recruiting,training, placing and pastoring
missionaries and we sort of grewout of the Hancock family as
church planters into a trainingand sending mission agency.
(03:19):
And now we have an academy inthe United States where we train
people 11 months to get themready for missions.
We have a wilderness trainingaspect to that and we have an
expanding footprint still inMexico in about 100 villages
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through affiliate missionariesJason and Nicole Fitzpatrick at
the Village Global there in theMountain Gateway family Amazing
people, yeah, they're amazingpeople.
They've Nicole's rescued 2,000children from human trafficking
in Mexico in the last 15 years.
Gregg Phillips (03:59):
She showed me some pictures when y'all were
about to kick off the event inAgua the last night and I mean,
I'm not much of a crier but man,she showed me some pictures of
those little babies and I wasjust like, oh my gosh.
Britt Hancock (04:16):
And it's the worst underbelly of humanity
what people do to children.
You know Amen and anyway, andthen her husband, jason.
They also have a network ofvillage churches that they work
in Because we work together.
We work together for years inMexico as village church
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planting missionaries, and sowe've known each other for a
long time.
I've actually known her sinceshe was 12 years old.
Oh, I did Her parents, herparents were missionaries, and
so I met her when they were.
When she was, her parents werein language school and then, in
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2012, we were threatened by acartel.
Our family was in Mexico andthey were pretty aggressive with
what they told me that theywere.
You know they threatened to doto Audrey, and so that set up
kind of a personal crisis and wewent into hiding for about
three weeks.
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And it was while I was therethat a friend of mine, johnny
Enlo, invited us to come to apastors conference or ministry
conference in Pasadena,california, and I was at that
conference that we met a pastorfrom Anagua, nicaragua, who
invited us to come there, and sowe got our family, all of my
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kids, and we made a journey downthere and met them and they
showed us around, you know, afew cities, and the Lord really
touched my heart for Nicaragua.
And since we didn't we didn'tat that time really focus on on
urban centers I told the pastorlook, I need to come back, I
need to see, like inside thecountry.
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You know the kind of thing thatwe do.
I want to, I need to get intovillages and into the mountains
and and I asked him if he knewyou know anybody that could
serve as a guide, and so he knewthis guy.
He said, oh yeah, he knows, heknows the country like the back
of his hand and you know, youhear that, but this guy
literally did like he.
His name is Walner Blandon.
Gregg Phillips (06:28):
And he knows a lot of things by the back of his
hand.
He just he really touched mewhen I first met him and and I
just knew he was somebodyspecial and he and I had a brief
but but important relationshipto me and ended up, I think,
being one of the main reasonsthat I'm, of course, I love
y'all but but you know, knowinghim and his family, it's hard to
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understand and deal with.
I think, just knowing you knowwhat's happening to Walner and
his family, yeah, it's hard, hegot, he got.
Britt Hancock (07:01):
He got saved in June of 2013 on our second rural
scouting trip, and so we hadgone to this rural area of
Nicaragua where there's no roadsand no running water, no, no,
no electricity, and there's justlots of people that live out
there and it was really kind ofcool because they all ride
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horses or mules and so there'sthis whole network of places out
there.
That's kind of our bellowic,you know that kind of thing.
And so we went out there andI'm I preached in 30 villages in
10 days.
So we did three a day, one inthe morning, one in the middle
of the day and one in theevening and we spent the night
and we get up and load up onmules and go do it again.
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You know, and we did that for10 days in a row and about
halfway through that trip, theLord really rescued him from
hell.
You know he was, he wasinvolved in the government at
high levels and I don't evenknow what all that he was
involved in.
That he was involved in, butyou know, I mean well, everybody
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needs Jesus, but you know, wehad just been loving on him and
I'd been in the truck with himfor days, scouting, and we got
to know each other and the loveof God really penetrated his
heart.
So he got born again and hestopped working for the
government and he just connectedwith us and then, as we
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expanded our footprint inNicaragua, he became our.
You know, we put a lot ofdiscipleship and time into him.
I mean, you know, myself andAudrey and my son and other
missionaries that we sent therereally poured our life into them
and into him.
There was, there was like sevenyears of extreme discipleship,
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focus and like living almosttogether, you know, like like
right next to each other.
We just integrated in lifetogether and the Lord really did
extraordinary things in hisheart, in his life and
transformation.
And he kept dragging me intothese meetings with the
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government, you know, because hecould get any kind of any door
open.
He knew all these people in thegovernment and he would call me
and say here, pray for thisperson, you know, and I was like
I don't know who's on the otherside, you know.
So I'm talking, I'm listeningto the guy.
Well, I work for the government.
He would say, and I've had, youknow, I can't sleep well and in
(09:35):
my job it just really stressfuland I'm kind of backslidden and
I need to go to church again,you know, and I haven't read my
Bible in a while and you know,can you pray for me to have
peace or whatever?
And I would pray and the HolySpirit would just touch him and
I would find out later if somesenator or some department head,
or the mayor of Managua at thetime, you know, or some cabinet
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member, for you know, forsomebody past presidents, past
vice presidents, I ended up, Idon't know how, but I ended up
preaching to the Congress, youknow, and we're out here working
in the villages and everything,and Walners doing all these
things and getting all thesemeetings, and one day I said to
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him what are you doing?
Like, this is just not my thing,you know.
You see, I'm kind of aggravated.
I'm like let's, let's.
There's so many hard to reachplaces that are hard to
penetrate and it takes lots ofeffort and focus, and every time
I come down here, you drag meto the capital city and you want
me to go do this or that or theother.
You know, but I mean, the Lordwas teaing something up
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unbeknownst to us, and so we, webecame known to all the
decision makers in the countryand I didn't know, but you know
he was making sure that theyunderstood that we were not a
threat to them, that we're notthere as insurgents, you know,
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on the behalf of a governmentthat's trying to overthrow them.
And we began to work for thegood of the people and things
started happening and we we weobtained a coffee farm, a 122
acre coffee farm in 2017, abusiness lady actually sold her
two houses and gave us the moneyto do that, because God had
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showed her in a dream she had adream six times, in about eight
months, that she was to sell herhouses and donate the money to
us because we were going to do acoffee farm.
And I didn't know that, youknow, but it just it was an
extraordinary set ofcircumstances that caused that
to come to be.
And we got the coffee farm andwe learned how to grow really
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high quality, specialty gradecoffee and it was all these
crazy things we were doing fairwage, fair trade practices, you
know, and really cool thingsthere.
The government really likedthat because we were, you know.
We paid our workers 48% overthe the national minimum wage
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and there's a lot of cool thingshappening there.
That started in 2017 and wewere trying to develop a Brand
in the United States root linecoffee company.
It's really good.
Yes, great coffee folks, greatcoffee really good coffee, root
line coffee.
We ended up, you know, with a inDripping Springs, texas, with a
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brick-and-mortar store, and wehave an online presence, but
that grew out of our coffee farm.
Gregg Phillips (12:37):
Well, let me interrupt you for a second and
tell everybody's we've got a lotof listeners in Texas and since
I kind of lived in the area,for those of you in the Austin
area, it's in Dripping Springs.
For those of you not in theAustin area or not even in Texas
, dripping Springs is a used tobe nothing, but now it is a
little bit of a bedroomcommunity about 30 miles from
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downtown Austin.
In fact, when I first moved toTexas had a friend that lived
out there and used to.
I I've moved in with himbecause I was working on a
project in the legislature and Ijust I just thinking, okay, I'm
gonna be there for you know, amonth or whatever, working this
project.
Next thing I know my wholefamily moved out there and
everything else.
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But Dripping Springs used to benothing.
Right now in Dripping Springsit's an entirely different
universe and you can go out forthose folks in Austin, please go
out there.
This coffee shop is amazing,absolutely amazing, and they're
doing they're doing amazing workand you can go out there and
you could probably coach one ortwo of them into praying with
you Like I did so for sure.
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So, audrey, so before we getinto kind of the the big stuff
here, so you know, a lot of theladies that listen to us and and
that know about this story Askme the same thing pretty
regularly what's it like toraise your entire family in the
mission field?
How, how, what was that like?
Audrey Hancock (14:01):
Well, it was different in the very beginning
to later on because Technologykind of changed.
But when we first moved my kidswere one and a half, four, six
and eight.
There was a lot of Well, david.
Britt Hancock (14:18):
David was born in Paraguay and then but that was.
Gregg Phillips (14:21):
Mexico yeah, that would be that would be a
big load for anyone or anyfamily anywhere.
That meant the kids under theage of eight.
Audrey Hancock (14:31):
Yeah it was, it was a.
It was a lot of handful, but Iit was a good handful.
I love my kids.
There's just awesome, and so Ikind of look at life like an
adventure.
So okay, well, what's next?
This is what's next.
So how can we make the best ofit?
When we first moved to Mexico,we didn't have any running water
or electricity in our house,and so that was a challenge.
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And, you know, using thecandles and we had water in a
big cistern outside of the houseso we'd go pull it up out of a
bucket.
So we pretended we were, youknow, little house in the
prairie with a well or somethinglike that.
And so I think that the thingthat caught me off guard was
that, trying to wash clothes ina bucket While you're squatting
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down, my legs got sore.
I was like who would everthought my calves would be so
sore from washing clothes.
But that was for a couple ofweeks until we could get
electricity.
And then, you know, the housewas sparse, we didn't have much
furniture, so I learned how toDo things, a lot of different
creative things with the marketcrates.
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So I'd go to the market and I'dbuy vegetables and I say well,
can I have the crate too?
So I bring the crate home andI'd scrub it up and I clean it
and it became my kitchen shelves.
Britt Hancock (15:46):
She made toys out of cereal boxes and milk boxes
and yeah.
Audrey Hancock (15:51):
Yeah, but the thing about the, the crates are
you gotta, they're not allstandard, so you kind of get the
ones that are about the samesize.
Then you can.
If you're putting something inthere like cups, you have to get
like your cereal box and cutthat and then you put that down
on the bottom as your shelf,that way things don't go between
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the slats.
And Then I would like get aboard and like put them between
two stacks of crates and stuffand like in the kit and then for
the kids closet I Did three, atower of three crates on one
side with another tower of threecrates, and then I would get a
like a, a broomstick and put itacross the middle and then I'd
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hang the kids clothes on thebroomstick and then they had the
six boxes on either side.
So it all worked.
And then we would paint them.
They became gi Joe boxes.
They were a Barbie house, youknow.
Wait, it just was all sorts ofthings.
And so we just made the best ofit and we had worship in our
house and we prayed, and becausewe didn't have much furniture,
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I let the kids ride their bikesinside, which they like that
that is awesome, my.
Gregg Phillips (17:03):
If my grandkids are watching this, or when they
do watch it, neither of you getto ride your bikes in anybody's
house.
Audrey Hancock (17:10):
So funny.
Well, it was all tile, so youknow it's a little different if
you have carpet.
Gregg Phillips (17:16):
Yeah.
Audrey Hancock (17:17):
So, but there's a lot of challenges doing In
homeschooling figuring out howto cook things that are
different, how to just deal withelectricity issues, how to take
the kids to the villages, whatthat was like, teaching them to
eat food that they are not usedto.
The closest church service wasthree hours on a bumpy road, and
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so that means there are sixhours at least in the car.
So I would put homeschool booksin the car with me and I'd read
on the way Thankfully I don'tget car sick.
I would pack a little snack box, I would put some peanut butter
on a tortilla, roll it up andpass it back and To the backseat
, so that kind of thing.
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We didn't have a telephone forfive years, so Communication was
a challenge with people backhome.
We wrote letters with stamps,you know, and so, and that was a
long process because we wouldsend them out with a missionary,
then they would mail them,somebody would write something,
then there'd be a mail drop backto it from Texas into Mexico.
So I kind of feel like the oldtimey.
Gregg Phillips (18:25):
Wow, so.
So I mean I'd want to pry, butyou know I think in a.
We live in a world where, youknow, people don't value Each
other and relationships, and youknow we see that in so many
ways, you know, with divorcesand all the different things
that go on, and it's such astruggle.
How did how did the thestruggle affect your
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relationship together?
Audrey Hancock (18:50):
It pressed us together.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean pressure is gonna gonnado something right, and so what
we chose was that it would pushus together Closer, because
we've determined that we run thethree-legged race and so we're
tied together and we try reallyhard to stay in cadence.
Gregg Phillips (19:09):
My goodness, what a, what an amazing witness
for everybody out there.
You know, so many times, Ithink you know, my friends will,
you know, hear that they'regetting a divorce or something's
going on and and I'll call them.
And so many times, you know, I,even me, I just kind of don't
know what to say, all the time,other than you know, I quote him
some scripture and try to, youknow, try to make it better, but
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but that is a powerful witness,y'all.
Britt Hancock (19:32):
Yeah, it's hard, it's very hard.
Well, we decided that you knowwhat we're gonna do, we're gonna
do together, and when we gotmarried they pronounced this
husband and wife when we leftand then we came back in and
then we minister together.
Our first act of of as as amarried couple was to do what we
could to minister the gospel inour wedding.
You know, we had a couplepeople get saved and We've, you
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know, and then we, everythingthat we've done, we've done
together.
We had our kids on the missionfield.
I Attempted to have them in atleast 50% of the village
services that I was in.
So that did kind of create achallenge, a big challenge for
homeschooling and schoolschedule, but it worked out in
the end.
Gregg Phillips (20:15):
You know well, guys, I mean everything that
you've been through and and your, your family, and raising your
family and and Preparingmissionaries to to do this
incredible work that they do.
Just tell everybody.
I had the great fortune to bein Nicaragua when they were
graduating a few newmissionaries, and that was the
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most Heartening experience Ithink I've had in quite some
time Lots of tears, and justtears of joy and happiness and
and looking forward to their, totheir lives.
There was, it were unfoldingbefore him.
It was just it was.
It was really touching andreally amazing.
And I just want to you knowagain say these two are amazing
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people.
They are.
They are truly what what onemight consider a missionary or a
set of family missionariesreally are and what they should
be, and and They've just becomeso important in my life that
that I hate to be so effusiveabout it, but but you will no
doubt here lots and lots andlots from me about Mountain
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Gateway, audrey and Brit.
So, brit, let's, let's kind ofroll this up into the, the
Crusades and and you know howdid you get there?
And then tell everybody alittle bit about it.
We're gonna cut in that thatone video, that that you shared
with me, showing a little bitabout the Crusades, because I
think it's hard to reallyunderstand what we're talking
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about here, Unless you actuallysee the video.
But I can tell you from somebodythat was there one night in
Messiah, nick Raghava, and itwas pouring rain, there was
lightning, according to my phone, within a mile of where we were
telling us to take cover, andpeople weren't just they're not
taking cover, they were comingin closer.
There was close to a hundredthousand people in that muddy
field.
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But I'll tell you the otherthing that was there in that
muddy field was the.
You could feel the body andblood of Christ in that field
and as the more it rained, thecloser folks got, and at some
point Brit disappeared out intothe, into the crowd.
You know like, to those of uswho care a little bit about
security, I'm, you know, like,what's he doing?
Announcer (22:25):
We're somebody's gotta go get him.
Gregg Phillips (22:27):
But, anyway, let's talk a little bit about
what got you, what got y'allthere, and then let's talk about
you know, the issues at hand.
Britt Hancock (22:36):
Sure, we've spent most of our life working in
small villages with small groupsof people.
You know lots of small groupsand Most everybody that we
ministered to or discipled wewere in their personal space,
you know.
And so when the Lord starteddealing with me about mass
evangelism campaigns, that thatwas a like a that was sailing
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against the wind, so to speak,for the trajectory of our life
unknown and and so we partneredwith another ministry called
shake the nations evangelists,nathan Morris, they do crusades,
and so he had me on his show insome time in 2022 I think it
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was in May and he has a TVprogram, and so he invited me
down there and Jesus really kindof invaded the studio and I
Felt like I felt like thatNathan would be willing to go do
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crusades in remote, difficultlocations, because the idea that
would that the Lord put in mewas what if we do a mass
evangelism campaign in everyregion of the country,
geographically accessible toevery person in the entire
country, should they choose tocome there?
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In other words, I didn't wantthe location or Circumstance to
be the reason why somebodycouldn't come, because the
people with we work, that wework with that you know they're
two days up the village, up theriver and In remote places and
they never get to go to thesebig events.
Most of the big events are inurban centers and they never
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hear about them or if they do,it's after the fact or it, you
know it's too much money to getthere.
They got a journey to thecapital city somewhere far away.
They don't know anybody, youknow they don't have any place,
you know it's just logistics.
They can't do it Because someof these people make two or
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three dollars a day, you know,and just extremely marginalized
villages.
And so what was in my heart wasthat If we're gonna do this,
let's do a bunch of them, stilla bunch of events, so we get the
entire country covered and noone gets left out.
Everybody has a seat at thetable, every voice matters.
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And so I honestly, brother, Imean it was just God that came
on me, but I had no idea, noidea what I was.
I mean this is a crazy idea.
Audrey Hancock (25:20):
Might be good.
You didn't know at all.
Britt Hancock (25:23):
I had no idea the logistics or the finances or
anything that it was gonna take.
Gregg Phillips (25:28):
Audrey, when we first came down last July and
the very first thing that we didafter we got there was, I guess
we went to a press conferenceor something or I can't even
remember get all my trips mixedup, but when we one of the
beautiful things that they do,y'all is so they'll do an event
and then before the next event,they'll go back and thank all
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the pastors that had come to theprevious event, and so we had
the great fortune ofaccompanying them up into the
mountains and passing all theactive volcanoes while we were
flying.
And we get there and I'mthinking this is, I mean,
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there's not a lot of folksbesides missionaries that have
ever been up here before, butthey brought us to a location
where they had brought a bunchof pastors in and they served us
all lunch and they prayed andthey sang and there was.
So this was, I mean, we'd beenthere for not very long, a few
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hours.
It felt like and we're alreadyexperiencing something that was
developed from the last event,like a month before that, and
there was so much love in thatroom and thankfulness in that
room and it was really thebringing together and you could
almost see it right the bringingtogether of pastors from
different churches and differentcommunities and you know, and
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well, some of them knew eachother and some of them didn't.
Man, there was so much in thatroom but y'all that was so
incredible and we sat there andwe ate and all I could think of
was you know, I've just neverexperienced anything like this
before.
This is beautiful.
With like a hundred folks or 50folks.
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I had no idea what we wereabout to experience.
Britt Hancock (27:21):
Yeah, it exploded .
It really started with the seedof two ministries coming
together, Two very, verydifferent ministries, you know,
kind of at polar opposite endsof the poles as far as the kind
of gospel work we were engagedin.
So, the Lord, you know, itreally was a John 17 miracle
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that began in Nathan and I andGreg.
We saw 6,000 churches rally,6,000 Nicaraguan churches and
all of the people associatedwith those rally together to
participate in unity.
It was extraordinary, it wasTruly, and they just began to
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respond and respond, and respond.
And so, because the governmentknew who I was and I'd been
around talking all through thegovernment and we had responded
to hurricanes and doing all thethings that we were doing and we
were framed in their minds notas a threat.
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When I asked, can we do like 15to 20 of these events around
the country, they said yes, andso Walner was heavily
responsible for that.
The Lord used him mightily andthey gave us a green light and
they backed us and they you knowthat I mean you can't, you
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can't shake an entire nationwithout the government,
especially in one of thoselittle countries, being involved
, and I mean they were providingsecurity for us.
We were, we had governmentpersonnel.
We had government personnelthere.
We had governors and mayors andpeople from the vice president
staff on the stage with us oftenand so incredibly kind to us.
Gregg Phillips (29:14):
I mean, you know , I mean coming up and
introducing themselves to us andhugging us and thanking us for
coming and, you know, worshipingwith us, and I mean the whole
thing.
It was just guys, y'all can't.
It was truly extraordinary,extraordinary experience.
Britt Hancock (29:36):
And then we would whatever space that we procured
to hold a meeting in I thinkthis is a factual statement God
filled it up with desperatepeople and we ended up having
thousands of volunteers and sowe did these eight meetings,
eight campaigns.
They were two day events, allof them, except for the first
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one.
And you know the, the, every.
The momentum was just justgrowing and growing, and growing
, until the last one that we hadwas in November, november the
10th and the 11th, in thenational plaza in Monago, the
capital city, called the Plazade Fe, and the government gave
(30:24):
us permission to meet there andI think it was a great
opportunity and I think theydidn't really believe that we
could fill the field up, thatGod would do that.
Yeah, so the, the, the lastcampaign that we had was in
November, november 10th and 11th.
That was in the national plaza.
We had thousands of volunteers,we had 3000 buses running, we,
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we, the, the.
You know the government hadmeasured the space and you know
they, they knew how many peoplea full field would be and it's
all these crazy things.
And I mean you were there, thefield filled up to capacity and
the boulevard beside the fieldwent up, you know, like blocks
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full of people.
They were just crammed in thereand so I mean we've been saying
for sure over 200,000 people,but the government drone ran
over the top and they measuredat you know, 278,000.
I think they said.
I totally believe it.
Gregg Phillips (31:25):
Y'all.
I walked out into the, into thecrowd.
First I've got some greatpictures of y'all preaching on
your knees in front of everybodyand then I turned around and
walked back out into the crowdand walked to the far end, and
then I forgot what the name ofthe avenue was, that that fed
the square, but I walked.
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I walked at least a half a miledown the avenue from which we
came and it was crammed full ofpeople that weren't even you
know a half a mile from thesquare.
On all sides of the road, inthe road there was no cars, no,
nothing going through and andfolks I guess I don't know if
they had it on a radio or what,but it was listening to y'all
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preaching and and it was, it was.
It was so spectacular that thatagain I mean me being out there
by myself probably was thesmartest thing in the world.
However, I would say that Iwould do it again anytime,
because I never felt danger ofany type at all, zero.
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I mean, people were coming upto me and hugging me and and
just loving on me and sayinghallelujah and and praising God
with me, and it was, it was.
It was arguably one of the mostimportant events of my life.
And then, of course, y'allprayed for me when I came back
and and you know, I credit thatto this, this, this burgeoning
(32:48):
healing that's happening with meright now.
y'all, and and it was.
It was just amazing.
And and and and and Walner wassuch an amazing part of it,
right?
I mean, you talked about and.
I've been doing events,political events, my whole life.
Guys, y'all know that everybodywho knows me on this show knows
that I've been doing this for along, long time.
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Never, ever seen anything evenclose to that anywhere.
And and and Walner was justsomehow on top of it all and and
making it all happen, and youknow, but still you know, loving
on everybody back behind thestage, and it was just, it was
just a perfect time, and andanyway.
(33:33):
So let's, let's finish up withthat and then let's tell them
what happened for it.
Britt Hancock (33:37):
Yeah, so God really truly shook the entire
nation and and and and it.
It just sparked something inevery area that we kept going
back and having meetings withpastors, you know, like you
mentioned, and they were justreporting and they and they kept
coming.
(33:58):
You know, the pastors from thewhole thing would just keep
coming and keep coming and keepcoming and they were telling us
our churches are full andmiracles are happening and
people are getting saved and ourcommunities are changed.
And you know, there there was15 or 20 prostitutes that used
to hang out at the.
You know, at this spoteverybody knows where they were.
Now there's, you know, three orfour of them there and the
(34:20):
gangs used to fight.
And now, you know, for the lasttwo months or three months or
whatever, things have been calmand it's like all these crazy
stuff and there was a massiveunity.
And and then, one month and oneday after, on December the 12th,
(34:43):
so one month and one day fromwhen, when, you know, the last
campaign night was in Managua,they arrested Walner.
So they came.
We had, you know, built out apastoral training facility, we
had a bunch of housing and wehad a disaster relief and
response warehouse forpreparation and our business
(35:07):
offices were there.
We had a house in Managua forlogistics.
We had the coffee farm.
You know, we were getting readyto build a beneficial to
process the coffee, because wewere getting ready to be
vertically integrated completely.
Because there's so muchcorruption in the coffee
industry and so much thievery,and and poor farmers are the
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ones who who, you know who bearthe brunt of that and so and all
that made me mad.
So I mean we had, we had prayedin you know $600,000 worth of
processing equipment and bought15 acres and getting ready to
build a, you know a, a facilityto to do something about the,
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the corruption in the coffeeindustry.
Like, we were just kind ofgoing everywhere and they
started arresting people.
They arrested Walner and then aweek later they, they started
arresting, you know, theyarrested our five campaign
coordinators who are alsopastors of churches, some of
them big churches.
And then, and then they, theyarrested our three village
(36:13):
church planting, you know,village workers who are like,
one of these guys lives in a mudhouse, an Adobe brick house.
You know he's like zero threat.
These people are zero threats,you know, they, they, and then
they confiscated all of ourstuff.
So they.
They arrested 11 of our peopleand then the government swooped
down about a week after theyarrested those and shut down the
(36:36):
law firm that was representingus.
Central law.
There they have.
They have like multiple law,multiple offices in other
central American countries Likeit's a reputable law firm and
they closed that and they threw.
They threw our two lawyers thathad worked on our stuff.
They're in prison tonight.
Audrey Hancock (36:57):
It's two women.
Britt Hancock (36:58):
Two women, just because they they kept us try to
comply with the laws ofNicaragua, you know.
And so they indicted me and myson, jacob and his wife Cassie,
my daughter-in-law with moneylaundering.
And then they've you know,they've just sort of hinted
around that we're crime bossesand we had this big, elaborate
(37:21):
plan, starting in 2013, to startworking with these poor
peasants they call them that.
There's no way that they couldever be a real pastor, which is
infuriating to me, you knowthey're.
You know, I thought socialistswere supposed to be champions of
the poor, but they're saying,oh, these are not real pastors
(37:43):
because they're not educated,you know, and they live in small
villages.
You know that, just, I don'tlike that stuff and I've always.
I have deep gratitude, even now, for the Nicaraguan government
saying yes to allow us, becausewe had a million people come
together for those eightcampaigns.
Gregg Phillips (38:05):
Praise God.
Britt Hancock (38:07):
And there was an ocean of people that responded
to the call to meet Jesus.
There were hundreds ofthousands of people that said
yes to the invitation.
I mean, how many hands did yousee up?
Go up in just a minagua.
Gregg Phillips (38:21):
Oh, countless.
Britt Hancock (38:24):
You know, you can't see the end of them.
You can really only see about45,000 people.
The rest after that they justbleed into one solid mass.
I never thought I would knowthings like that.
You know, one time Audra and Iwere standing on the, on the
platform, and there were I don'tknow where we were, I think we
(38:45):
were in Ocotal there were almost50,000 people out there and she
looked at me and we were bothcrying and she said I'm sure I'm
glad we said yes, because wehad to say yes to God, you know,
to have mass meetings and to doall the things.
(39:06):
I had no idea what it was gonnatake logistically.
We didn't have the money.
When I said yes, we didn't havethe equipment.
I mean, we were buying vehiclesand you know, it's like we had
45 vehicles running and we stillhad to rent three or four of
them.
Gregg Phillips (39:26):
And yet you were embezzling money right.
Britt Hancock (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, right , right, we were embezzling
money, we were laundering money.
Somehow it's like I don't know,you know, it's like our donor
base responded in an amazing way.
You know, I don't know, it'sjust an extraordinary thing, but
(39:50):
they lowered the hammer on usand so now there's three
Americans indicted.
They're gonna try us inabstentia beginning in early
March.
One of the things that has usreally concerned is Walner's
wife.
Maricela was our administrator,ran the office and was over
(40:13):
accounting practices andeverything.
They arrested her.
They've got her in prison.
We haven't seen her since.
So they're both in prison.
They're two children Babiesreally are with their
grandmother tonight.
Both their babies are UScitizens.
(40:33):
The police seized theirdocuments.
They're stuck in Nicaragua andthe State Department told me in
a briefing a few days ago youwere there in that briefing
where they said that theNicaraguan government, when they
decide someone is opposed tothem, they take it out on all
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the whole family, you know, andso we're concerned for all these
pastors' families.
I'm concerned for the kids.
We all are.
We're working, trying to getthe kids out of the country.
We're doing everything that wecan to urge the Nicaraguan
government just to let the momgo.
I mean, just let her go, youknow, and we're trying to get
(41:22):
them out of there and to theUnited States.
You know we're trying.
I want all these, I wanteverybody out of prison.
The Nicaraguan government usedthis service that Interpol
provides called a red diffusion.
It's not a red notice, so it'snot anywhere in the official
(41:46):
processes of Interpol so itdoesn't have to stand up to the
scrutiny that can be appealed,so it's kind of off the record.
They serve as a message boardso they used them to send out
this immigration arrest orderagainst me and Jacob and Cassie
(42:11):
and maybe another of my bestfriend, bruce Wagner is a
businessman who was heavilyinvolved in helping us make all
this stuff happen.
Audrey Hancock (42:20):
And how we met you, Greg.
Britt Hancock (42:21):
So how we met you , and so you know we've been
notified that six countries havesaid okay, we'll participate,
we'll grab them if they comehere and arrest them and
extradite them to you.
And one of those countries isMexico.
And that's really problematicfor us because now we can't go
(42:41):
there and we got all this workgoing in Mexico.
It's like it's not happy, likethis part is not happy, and so
we've been.
You know, we've really likewhen it first happened, I mean
some of these people we've sownour life into, you know, we've
lived with them and they're, youknow, even though Walner's not
(43:04):
that much younger than us, Imean he feels like our son.
You know he calls us mom anddad.
Gregg Phillips (43:10):
Actually, and he calls me papa, the same thing
my grandkids call me.
Britt Hancock (43:16):
So yeah, and so, on the one hand, we have
extraordinary, amazing gratitudeto have seen a multitude of
people come to Jesus and to seeGod shake an entire nation and
to see something that wasextraordinary.
(43:37):
I mean, we had a window of timethere.
I didn't know.
I mean, you don't ever, youdon't ever know.
You know God spoke to me in thebeginning, before all this
started, and he told me I'vedecided to do something in
Nicanagua.
No one can stop it.
And we watched him do it andpeople responded in mass Like I
know what a certified multitudeof people looks like now.
(44:00):
You know, I didn't think that I,I didn't think I would ever be
there, but the Lord put us there.
He put us there with Nathan andtheir team, what our teams
became like family.
You know, us and the ShakedNations team.
We were doing some of thesethings.
We did every two weeks.
You know we started in February, we ended in November and we
(44:22):
took a break for rainy season.
So I mean they were, you know,we were doing them, they were
happening, and so there's deepgratitude for the multitude of
people and I don't regret ouryes and I would say yes again,
knowing that this happened.
You know, I really would,because it's something the Lord
(44:44):
asked me to do, but at the sametime, it's like.
It's like there's deepgratitude and anguish that live
in the same crib togetherbecause on the micro level, I
mean, these are people that welove, that we sowed our, that
we've sown our lives wereintegrated together with them.
That's what I'm saying.
So there's there's the macroand the micro and it's it's been
(45:07):
very paradoxical andincongruent and my emotions, our
emotions, have been all overthe place.
Like you know, I don't regret amultitude of people meeting
Jesus.
I don't regret Jesus shaking anation, don't regret that at all
(45:28):
.
But I'm mad, I'm sad, I'm everyother kind of emotion that they
have our friends and ourbrothers in prison and that a
mother separated from her babies, her four month old and her two
year old.
I just really don't like that.
I don't think God likes that.
Gregg Phillips (45:49):
No, I don't.
I don't think so either.
I do want to say a couple ofquick things.
I had the good fortune to spendsome time with with Brett last
week, and and we've been on thephone with a bunch of folks, and
I just want to say that youknow, everybody on here knows,
I've I've been critical of ofthe United States government
(46:10):
occasionally or all the time, orwhatever.
But I want to tell you that wemet some people at the State
Department that have someresponsibilities down in Central
America and and even across theWestern Hemisphere a few of
them and and then we've had some, some just amazing support from
some folks from DHS that I'veknown for a few years that have
(46:33):
been reaching out and helping usand and helping reach out to,
you know, the necessary peopleto try to get those babies out,
to try to get matters out andand get her released and really
try to turn some semblance ofnormalcy while while we work
through the details of gettingthe pastors released.
But if I could just ask y'all,you know, uh, uh, brett, audrey,
(46:58):
what, what, what can folks thatare listening to this I suspect
you're going to see a hundredthousand folks listen to this
and probably another hundredthousand.
See it, what, what can they do?
What, what, what do you wantthem to do?
Britt Hancock (47:13):
First thing you can do is pray for us, pray for
the brothers that are imprisoned, pray for Nicaragua.
The second thing you can do iscall and write your, your
senators and yourrepresentatives, echoing what
you just said, greg.
You know I hadn't I okay.
So I know there's plenty of, Iknow there's plenty of reason
(47:37):
for concern over what'shappening in our country, but
you got to understand ourcontext.
Our context is we've spent alot of years working in third
world countries that do not haveour ideals and our form of
government, and one of the mainreasons why we're in this
problem in Nicaragua is becausethere's no separation of powers
(47:58):
there.
They're purging the governmentand they're they're doing
whatever they're doing.
I mean, you can read about itin the news, you can look up all
kinds of recent history onNicaragua and see what they're
doing.
It's not hard and it's nothidden.
There there's no separation ofpowers, there's no independent
branches in the government.
And what I've learned in thelast 10 days in Washington?
(48:23):
I'm astounded and superencouraged because this is my
first experience coming toWashington and I know God's
involved okay, I get it and he'sdoing all this, but the fact
that we can walk in unannouncedand not be anybody really.
I mean, you find out who knowswho, and we got a lot of people
(48:46):
that have known, a lot of peoplethat are helping us connect the
dots.
There's no doubt about it.
The people I've sat in front ofin the last 10 days I never
dreamed I would, but what I'msaying is the fact that you can
walk into the halls of Congressand, if you have enough time,
they will sit down and listen toyour concern.
(49:06):
They'll do it.
That does not exist in any ofthe other countries that we've
lived in in the last, you know,27 years, and that's something
worth fighting for.
There's a lot of people in thistown that are distressed over
the slide and the deteriorationand they know how it used to be
(49:27):
versus how it is now.
But us, coming in dealing with,you know, a totalitarian regime
that just threw all our peoplein jail, and they're throwing
people our lawyers in jail justbecause they did legal work for
us, you know, and so we.
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I think we've got 11representatives and four, maybe
five senators that are pushing,that are helping us do things
like.
There's already been one floorspeech.
There's going to be more floorspeeches.
We need that to put pressure onthe Nicaraguan government.
There's a letter that the lastcount that I saw has 28
(50:15):
signatures on it, threeDemocrats and the rest
Republicans from both houses atotal of 28.
I don't know how many senatorshave signed on, but that letter
is going to go to the Nicaraguanambassador to the United States
asking for responses.
(50:35):
Nicaragua probably won't respondtoo much from that.
They'll rattle their swords andtry to act like they're.
You know they're resisting theimperialists, that's what they
call us but it's going to botherthem.
It will pressurize things.
That's what we've been told.
(50:57):
And then there's a resolutionthat they're going to get on the
floor of the house that they'recirculating to try to get.
And there are people it'sbipartisan like that because
religious persecution issues gotour people thrown in jail.
Human rights issues are keepingthem in jail.
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And then I mean you know they'rein bed with China.
You can read about how they'reclosing big loans.
They have billions of dollarsin infrastructure loans.
We just saw in the news thatthey just closed an almost half
a billion dollar, $500 milliondollar loan almost to build a
(51:41):
new international airport rightoutside Managua.
Every time we were going andcoming from there, the
Nicaraguan government wasprocessing us in and out of the
diplomatic channels as we cameand went.
And so, yeah, you came into thediplomatic salon there, you
(52:03):
know, fast tracked us throughimmigration and through customs
and all that.
But the last six months we keptrunning into delegations from
China I ran into twice, I raninto the ambassador from China
to Nicaragua, you know.
And so this is not good.
This is not good and there's noway that China is happy about a
(52:24):
movement that could motivate amillion people in the name of
Jesus to congregate in 6,000evangelical churches, unified
and filling up the NationalPlaza, the largest meeting that
had ever happened in theNational Plaza in the history of
the country.
That was a planned meeting, youknow.
I don't know about protests ordemonstrations, but a planned
(52:47):
event.
This never happened.
Nobody's gotten that manypeople there.
God did that and it's anextraordinary miracle of John 17
.
And if you don't know what John17 is, you need to go read it.
It's about unity and it's aboutharmony, and unity doesn't mean
(53:09):
uniformity.
It's actually our differencesthat create the opportunity for
unity to work.
And so, you know, extraordinary.
But the situation that we havenow, I don't know.
People are asking us do youthink you're ever going to get
to go back?
I don't know.
I mean, we can't go back rightnow.
Certainly we'll get thrown inprison and if I'm in prison down
(53:34):
there, nobody's here knockingon doors because it's growing
Now our papers and theinformation and people that
you've connected us with, andnow they're talking to each
other and their aides and theirstaffers are talking to each
other and they're circulatingthe stuff, and now I'm getting
meetings with people that aresaying, instead of me having to
(53:55):
bring them up to speed on thewhole story, they're going.
Can you give me an update?
Gregg Phillips (53:59):
That's beautiful .
Britt Hancock (54:01):
And then they're also saying thank you for coming
and I'm like I feel like youknow, I feel like I want to cry
that people that have influenceand power are listening and
taking action.
And you know and I know,there's so many people out there
that are stuck in situationsthat they need people in power
(54:24):
in this town to take action on.
So I understand that.
I'm full of gratitude anddeeply grateful that everyone
I've sat across the table fromin person and looked in their
eyes have responded, I mean withurgency, and they're talking to
people and I mean I've talkedto some people like that have
(54:47):
power and that can move thingsand they're motivated to help
and they're saying how can wehelp, what can we do?
And everything that we've askedfor they're taking action on.
And it's a multi-tiered thing.
You're like you're helping inmultiple ways.
This podcast right here isgoing to help, because that's
(55:09):
part of the strategy.
We need as much of this stuffto go viral as possible to
create public awareness to thehuman rights and religious
persecution issues that arehappening in Nicaragua.
Look into Nicaragua, use Google, google you will see what's
happening.
They kicked out 3,600 nonprofitsand NGOs since 2018.
(55:35):
They kicked out the Red Cross.
Last month they pulled out ofthe Organization of American
States.
They fought a war with theCatholics.
They severed diplomaticrelations with the Roman
Catholic Church.
In February they imprisoned abunch of Catholic priests that
(55:57):
were calling out their humanrights violations.
One of them, bishop Alvarez, Ithink, is his name.
They arrested him, tried himfor treason, found him guilty.
He was in prison for over 500days.
They just now, thank the Lord,released him.
They exiled them to the Vaticanand, leading up to the last
(56:22):
election, they arrested thestrong presidential opposition
candidates in the lastpresidential election, put them
in prison.
And then there were a bunch ofpolitical prisoners in Nicaragua
, over 222 of them that gotexiled to the United States in
February.
I mean, like the StateDepartment is saying to us you
(56:44):
were there, greg, you heard them.
Look, we're kind of frustratedthat there's not as much
awareness out there.
Like there's theseorganizations that are watching
and they don't feel like manypeople are listening.
We need noise, like we needsocial media noise.
I'll go on every news programthat I can.
(57:07):
I am going to stay in this townand talk to every congressman
and senator who will let me infront of them.
Someone said look, how many doyou want in your coalition?
I want all of them in thecoalition, because there are
elements in this that we can allagree on.
(57:27):
The separation of a mother fromher baby is not right, no
matter your political persuasion.
Like, if we can't agree on that, we are really lost as a nation
.
Gregg Phillips (57:42):
Audrey, one of the things that has really
struck me in all of this is justhow many people in our world
that have been ready, willingand able to stand up and speak
and fight, and a few folks thatI've introduced Brett to and
just really everybody we talkedto.
I know that Katherine helpedconnect you with the IFA people
(58:03):
or maybe we're already connected, but kind of hooked that up.
We've just had such an amazingexperience with IFA.
They've been with us almostthroughout our entire challenges
that we find ourselves inoccasionally, but nothing like
this.
It did occur to me.
One of the things I think thatwe could do with IFA and if I
(58:25):
could get your support and yourhelp is Katherine and I.
I've listened to Brent and I'mthinking you know what we really
need to do.
We need to get.
It's one thing to get a letterfrom a bunch of members of
Congress, which is great, but weneed to get just the regular
folks out there, the believersright, the folks at IFA and all
(58:46):
of their million people listento them, and the folks that
listen to us and other big.
We have a lot of reach thesedays into some of these areas.
Wouldn't it be amazing, audrey,if we could figure out a way to
get one of those letters to theNicaraguan embassy together
from the believers in Americaand instead of having 435
(59:09):
members of Congress, let's get400,000 people to sign something
and in the name of.
Audrey Hancock (59:18):
God we can do this, we can move this Right,
because I get newsletters fromIntercessors from America and
different organizations, andit'll be like take action.
You just push the red button,then you fill in your name and
then you've sent it.
And I do that all the time, sothat I'm participating in
putting my name out there,saying yes, this is what I
(59:40):
believe, and telling mycongressman this is what I want
you to do to represent me and soeven those organizations to be
able to I mean to figure out howto write a letter like that to
the people that are like withthe Intercessors for America or
for, maybe, a research camp Idon't know, there's all sorts of
(01:00:01):
ones that can do that but to beable to just fill out your name
, send it to your congressman.
So having help from somebodylike that also is the prayer,
and people have been asking howthey could financially help us
because the bills are rising.
Yep, and we're really trying tohelp.
We've got the bills in Americaas well as mostly we've got tons
(01:00:26):
of you know what we're doing inNicaragua as much as we can,
just to continue like we've gotour legal defense, and so we're
going to put up a link on ourpage in Mountain Gateway.
Gregg Phillips (01:00:39):
If you'll send me that link, y'all, I'll be
sure to not just put it on here,but I'll get it.
We'll put Catherine and I'llput together we've done a few of
these virtual fundraisers andwe'll bring y'all on maybe to
talk to everybody and we'llbring in thousands of people
that will be willing to supportand help y'all and we'll
continue to beat that drum.
(01:01:00):
And Audrey, so I'll work withyou and Catherine on getting the
prayer letters together.
Y'all send to me the donor, youknow the links and all the
things that you need there, andthen we'll all four work
together.
To you know, continue to dowhat we're doing here.
It sounds so beautiful.
But you know, I would just urgeall of my, you know, by the
time this runs, I'd love tobelieve that those babies would
be safe and out of harm, out ofpotentially harm's way.
Audrey Hancock (01:01:24):
Right before I left Nicaragua, I was helping.
I was helping Maricela with herlittle newborn and at that time
he was just two months old andhe had a diaper rash.
And so she was coming to me andsaying so how would you treat
this?
Because you've had four kids,and so I mean it's just a
littlest thing, right.
(01:01:45):
But I just went over there, Ihelped her with her little baby
getting the desatine on itslittle bottom, just helping him
out.
And I'm thinking this is just alittle two month old and just a
few days later he didn't havehis mama.
You know, that just breaks myheart.
(01:02:05):
And then, and then little theirdaughter, who's two and a half,
which is exactly the same ageas our granddaughter, and those
two little girls play togetherall the time when they're in
Nicaragua, or they fighttogether for the Minnie Mouse
right, and they just she wouldall the time call La Mama, la
(01:02:26):
Mama.
You know what I mean, just likecalling out for her mama.
And she just loved her mom,hated to be away from her, and
we've just heard that every dayshe asks can I call my mama, can
I call my mama?
And she can't, she can't talkto her mama.
Gregg Phillips (01:02:45):
Well, y'all, I'll tell you this, guys, y'all
listen to that and I'm justgonna tell you that you know,
brett and I and some otherfriends are working as fast as
we can to get those babies outof there and in fact I'm
probably leaving here tomorrowto head at least down to near
(01:03:08):
near Central America to or,excuse me, yeah, in Central
America to see what I can do tohelp.
But again, there's a lot ofpeople in the Department of
Homeland Security that arehelping the State Department or
helping reach out to everyoneyou know, whether they're
Congressman or you know.
If you know, you know, urgegovernors to reach out to the
(01:03:29):
senators and get everybody youcan to start building a little
bit of drumbeat here, put it insocial media.
You can look on my social media, you know we'll connect you to
Brett and Audrey and MountainGateway and in police.
You know I look forward todoing the fundraiser for them.
So if y'all are so inclined and, you know, have a few dollars
(01:03:49):
that you could, you know, sharewith these folks, that would be
great.
I think what we're probablygonna do is Catherine and I are
probably gonna try to matchwhatever y'all do, and then
we've got a few other donors.
I think that'll do the same,and let's just try to take at
least that piece of it off ofthem.
Let's get these letterstogether.
Let's get the communicationsgoing to everyone that you can
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think of, whether it's yourpastors that know folks or just
y'all get up and tell yourchurch congregation about what's
going on.
If you need detail andinformation from me, we'll put a
bunch of it in the descriptionhere, but if you need something
specifically for me, write tograce at openinc.
We're gonna put together aspecial collection of all of
this on Open Inc.
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These guys don't know what thatis, but they'll soon learn, and
we're gonna put all of thisdocumentation so anybody who
wants it can go get it in onespot.
We'll put this video andeverything else up there.
We just wanna be sure that wesupport all of the work that you
guys, that they're doing, butall of the work that I know that
all of the listeners andfollowers of this channel will
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and can do.
Catherine and I are sounbelievably grateful to Brent
and Audrey for allowing us intheir family, and it's our time
now to fight for them and asthey've been for me from a
health perspective for the timeI've known them.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:11):
So thank you so much, Thank you brother Y'all.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:15):
I just can't thank you both enough.
We will not only pray for y'all, but we'll have another prayer
vigil for y'all.
Maybe we'll do add fasting toit this time and try to see if
we can get it north of 50,000this time.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:31):
Thank you.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:31):
Thank you so much.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:33):
Well, I've been telling people that that'd be
awesome.
I know that the doors that areopening here in this city are
because people are praying in.
Christ Without a doubt, withouta doubt, we appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:49):
Amen.
Well, I appreciate y'all somuch and thank you both so much.
Please go home, get some rest.
I'll tell everybody a quickstory.
So Audrey's here right now here, meaning in DC but it was just
a couple of days ago that Brenthad her own FaceTime and she was
leaving to take her daughterand granddaughter back to Japan
(01:06:13):
and then turned right around andwent from Japan straight back
here.
So it was something like 30hours of flying or some kind of
nonsense like that.
Audrey Hancock (01:06:21):
Yeah, it's a lot .
Gregg Phillips (01:06:24):
And she somehow is still awake.
I haven't quite figured thatout yet.
But, guys, thank y'all so much.
I appreciate your time.
I love you both, and my teamand the Patriot games team,
catherine and everybody on theTruth of the Vote side are gonna
do everything we can do to helpyou, to help those pastors, to
help Marcella, to help thosebabies.
Audrey Hancock (01:06:43):
Love you too, Greg.
Gregg Phillips (01:06:45):
Love you brother .
Audrey Hancock (01:06:45):
And love to Catherine too.
Gregg Phillips (01:06:48):
Thanks guys.
Y'all have a great night.
Thanks everybody for joining uson Patriot Games and we'll be
in touch soon and look forwardto a few coming announcements on
this topic.
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All right, everybody.
It's Greg Phillips.
Welcome back to Patriot Games.
We have a special episode withtwo just amazing people.
They're great friends.
They're people that areexperiencing religious
persecution in a way that Idon't think everybody can fully
understand.
For all of you that follow myshow and have prayed for them
(01:32):
and with them, these are thepeople that were leading the
prayer crusade in Nicaragua, andwith that I just want to
introduce Audrey and BrettHancock of Mountain Gateway, and
guys, I love you, I'm so gladyou're here, I'm so glad you're
safe.
But we got some things to thinkabout.
Britt Hancock (01:52):
So great to be here, Greg.
God bless you.
Audrey Hancock (01:54):
Thank you for having us.
Gregg Phillips (01:56):
So, brett, can you just give everybody just a
few minutes of Mountain Gatewayand how y'all got here, and then
I'll jump over to Audrey andwe'll go through what it's like
to bring a family up in themission field.
Britt Hancock (02:11):
You bet.
We first left the United Statesin January of 1996 to become
missionaries.
The first country that we livedin was Paraguay, south America.
Our youngest son was born there.
We had four children, two boys,two girls.
After Paraguay, we went tolanguage school in Guatemala to
(02:33):
learn Spanish and then we movedto Mexico in late 1997 to start
working in small Mexicanindigenous villages in the
mountains as church planters.
So we did that for a long time,full time, from 97 until 2012.
(02:55):
And then we launched MountainGateway in 2012 because the Lord
had really touched me that hewanted us to begin to train
missionaries.
So we got into recruiting,training, placing and pastoring
missionaries and we sort of grewout of the Hancock family as
church planters into a trainingand sending mission agency.
(03:19):
And now we have an academy inthe United States where we train
people 11 months to get themready for missions.
We have a wilderness trainingaspect to that and we have an
expanding footprint still inMexico in about 100 villages
(03:41):
through affiliate missionariesJason and Nicole Fitzpatrick at
the Village Global there in theMountain Gateway family Amazing
people, yeah, they're amazingpeople.
They've Nicole's rescued 2,000children from human trafficking
in Mexico in the last 15 years.
Gregg Phillips (03:59):
She showed me some pictures when y'all were
about to kick off the event inAgua the last night and I mean,
I'm not much of a crier but man,she showed me some pictures of
those little babies and I wasjust like, oh my gosh.
Britt Hancock (04:16):
And it's the worst underbelly of humanity
what people do to children.
You know Amen and anyway, andthen her husband, jason.
They also have a network ofvillage churches that they work
in Because we work together.
We work together for years inMexico as village church
(04:37):
planting missionaries, and sowe've known each other for a
long time.
I've actually known her sinceshe was 12 years old.
Oh, I did Her parents, herparents were missionaries, and
so I met her when they were.
When she was, her parents werein language school and then, in
(04:58):
2012, we were threatened by acartel.
Our family was in Mexico andthey were pretty aggressive with
what they told me that theywere.
You know they threatened to doto Audrey, and so that set up
kind of a personal crisis and wewent into hiding for about
three weeks.
(05:20):
And it was while I was therethat a friend of mine, johnny
Enlo, invited us to come to apastors conference or ministry
conference in Pasadena,california, and I was at that
conference that we met a pastorfrom Anagua, nicaragua, who
invited us to come there, and sowe got our family, all of my
(05:45):
kids, and we made a journey downthere and met them and they
showed us around, you know, afew cities, and the Lord really
touched my heart for Nicaragua.
And since we didn't we didn'tat that time really focus on on
urban centers I told the pastorlook, I need to come back, I
need to see, like inside thecountry.
(06:06):
You know the kind of thing thatwe do.
I want to, I need to get intovillages and into the mountains
and and I asked him if he knewyou know anybody that could
serve as a guide, and so he knewthis guy.
He said, oh yeah, he knows, heknows the country like the back
of his hand and you know, youhear that, but this guy
literally did like he.
His name is Walner Blandon.
Gregg Phillips (06:28):
And he knows a lot of things by the back of his
hand.
He just he really touched mewhen I first met him and and I
just knew he was somebodyspecial and he and I had a brief
but but important relationshipto me and ended up, I think,
being one of the main reasonsthat I'm, of course, I love
y'all but but you know, knowinghim and his family, it's hard to
(06:49):
understand and deal with.
I think, just knowing you knowwhat's happening to Walner and
his family, yeah, it's hard, hegot, he got.
Britt Hancock (07:01):
He got saved in June of 2013 on our second rural
scouting trip, and so we hadgone to this rural area of
Nicaragua where there's no roadsand no running water, no, no,
no electricity, and there's justlots of people that live out
there and it was really kind ofcool because they all ride
(07:23):
horses or mules and so there'sthis whole network of places out
there.
That's kind of our bellowic,you know that kind of thing.
And so we went out there andI'm I preached in 30 villages in
10 days.
So we did three a day, one inthe morning, one in the middle
of the day and one in theevening and we spent the night
and we get up and load up onmules and go do it again.
(07:45):
You know, and we did that for10 days in a row and about
halfway through that trip, theLord really rescued him from
hell.
You know he was, he wasinvolved in the government at
high levels and I don't evenknow what all that he was
involved in.
That he was involved in, butyou know, I mean well, everybody
(08:06):
needs Jesus, but you know, wehad just been loving on him and
I'd been in the truck with himfor days, scouting, and we got
to know each other and the loveof God really penetrated his
heart.
So he got born again and hestopped working for the
government and he just connectedwith us and then, as we
(08:28):
expanded our footprint inNicaragua, he became our.
You know, we put a lot ofdiscipleship and time into him.
I mean, you know, myself andAudrey and my son and other
missionaries that we sent therereally poured our life into them
and into him.
There was, there was like sevenyears of extreme discipleship,
(08:50):
focus and like living almosttogether, you know, like like
right next to each other.
We just integrated in lifetogether and the Lord really did
extraordinary things in hisheart, in his life and
transformation.
And he kept dragging me intothese meetings with the
(09:12):
government, you know, because hecould get any kind of any door
open.
He knew all these people in thegovernment and he would call me
and say here, pray for thisperson, you know, and I was like
I don't know who's on the otherside, you know.
So I'm talking, I'm listeningto the guy.
Well, I work for the government.
He would say, and I've had, youknow, I can't sleep well and in
(09:35):
my job it just really stressfuland I'm kind of backslidden and
I need to go to church again,you know, and I haven't read my
Bible in a while and you know,can you pray for me to have
peace or whatever?
And I would pray and the HolySpirit would just touch him and
I would find out later if somesenator or some department head,
or the mayor of Managua at thetime, you know, or some cabinet
(09:58):
member, for you know, forsomebody past presidents, past
vice presidents, I ended up, Idon't know how, but I ended up
preaching to the Congress, youknow, and we're out here working
in the villages and everything,and Walners doing all these
things and getting all thesemeetings, and one day I said to
(10:22):
him what are you doing?
Like, this is just not my thing,you know.
You see, I'm kind of aggravated.
I'm like let's, let's.
There's so many hard to reachplaces that are hard to
penetrate and it takes lots ofeffort and focus, and every time
I come down here, you drag meto the capital city and you want
me to go do this or that or theother.
You know, but I mean, the Lordwas teaing something up
(10:46):
unbeknownst to us, and so we, webecame known to all the
decision makers in the countryand I didn't know, but you know
he was making sure that theyunderstood that we were not a
threat to them, that we're notthere as insurgents, you know,
(11:06):
on the behalf of a governmentthat's trying to overthrow them.
And we began to work for thegood of the people and things
started happening and we we weobtained a coffee farm, a 122
acre coffee farm in 2017, abusiness lady actually sold her
two houses and gave us the moneyto do that, because God had
(11:29):
showed her in a dream she had adream six times, in about eight
months, that she was to sell herhouses and donate the money to
us because we were going to do acoffee farm.
And I didn't know that, youknow, but it just it was an
extraordinary set ofcircumstances that caused that
to come to be.
And we got the coffee farm andwe learned how to grow really
(11:51):
high quality, specialty gradecoffee and it was all these
crazy things we were doing fairwage, fair trade practices, you
know, and really cool thingsthere.
The government really likedthat because we were, you know.
We paid our workers 48% overthe the national minimum wage
(12:12):
and there's a lot of cool thingshappening there.
That started in 2017 and wewere trying to develop a Brand
in the United States root linecoffee company.
It's really good.
Yes, great coffee folks, greatcoffee really good coffee, root
line coffee.
We ended up, you know, with a inDripping Springs, texas, with a
(12:33):
brick-and-mortar store, and wehave an online presence, but
that grew out of our coffee farm.
Gregg Phillips (12:37):
Well, let me interrupt you for a second and
tell everybody's we've got a lotof listeners in Texas and since
I kind of lived in the area,for those of you in the Austin
area, it's in Dripping Springs.
For those of you not in theAustin area or not even in Texas
, dripping Springs is a used tobe nothing, but now it is a
little bit of a bedroomcommunity about 30 miles from
(12:58):
downtown Austin.
In fact, when I first moved toTexas had a friend that lived
out there and used to.
I I've moved in with himbecause I was working on a
project in the legislature and Ijust I just thinking, okay, I'm
gonna be there for you know, amonth or whatever, working this
project.
Next thing I know my wholefamily moved out there and
everything else.
(13:18):
But Dripping Springs used to benothing.
Right now in Dripping Springsit's an entirely different
universe and you can go out forthose folks in Austin, please go
out there.
This coffee shop is amazing,absolutely amazing, and they're
doing they're doing amazing workand you can go out there and
you could probably coach one ortwo of them into praying with
you Like I did so for sure.
(13:41):
So, audrey, so before we getinto kind of the the big stuff
here, so you know, a lot of theladies that listen to us and and
that know about this story Askme the same thing pretty
regularly what's it like toraise your entire family in the
mission field?
How, how, what was that like?
Audrey Hancock (14:01):
Well, it was different in the very beginning
to later on because Technologykind of changed.
But when we first moved my kidswere one and a half, four, six
and eight.
There was a lot of Well, david.
Britt Hancock (14:18):
David was born in Paraguay and then but that was.
Gregg Phillips (14:21):
Mexico yeah, that would be that would be a
big load for anyone or anyfamily anywhere.
That meant the kids under theage of eight.
Audrey Hancock (14:31):
Yeah it was, it was a.
It was a lot of handful, but Iit was a good handful.
I love my kids.
There's just awesome, and so Ikind of look at life like an
adventure.
So okay, well, what's next?
This is what's next.
So how can we make the best ofit?
When we first moved to Mexico,we didn't have any running water
or electricity in our house,and so that was a challenge.
(14:52):
And, you know, using thecandles and we had water in a
big cistern outside of the houseso we'd go pull it up out of a
bucket.
So we pretended we were, youknow, little house in the
prairie with a well or somethinglike that.
And so I think that the thingthat caught me off guard was
that, trying to wash clothes ina bucket While you're squatting
(15:13):
down, my legs got sore.
I was like who would everthought my calves would be so
sore from washing clothes.
But that was for a couple ofweeks until we could get
electricity.
And then, you know, the housewas sparse, we didn't have much
furniture, so I learned how toDo things, a lot of different
creative things with the marketcrates.
(15:34):
So I'd go to the market and I'dbuy vegetables and I say well,
can I have the crate too?
So I bring the crate home andI'd scrub it up and I clean it
and it became my kitchen shelves.
Britt Hancock (15:46):
She made toys out of cereal boxes and milk boxes
and yeah.
Audrey Hancock (15:51):
Yeah, but the thing about the, the crates are
you gotta, they're not allstandard, so you kind of get the
ones that are about the samesize.
Then you can.
If you're putting something inthere like cups, you have to get
like your cereal box and cutthat and then you put that down
on the bottom as your shelf,that way things don't go between
(16:12):
the slats.
And Then I would like get aboard and like put them between
two stacks of crates and stuffand like in the kit and then for
the kids closet I Did three, atower of three crates on one
side with another tower of threecrates, and then I would get a
like a, a broomstick and put itacross the middle and then I'd
(16:35):
hang the kids clothes on thebroomstick and then they had the
six boxes on either side.
So it all worked.
And then we would paint them.
They became gi Joe boxes.
They were a Barbie house, youknow.
Wait, it just was all sorts ofthings.
And so we just made the best ofit and we had worship in our
house and we prayed, and becausewe didn't have much furniture,
(16:57):
I let the kids ride their bikesinside, which they like that
that is awesome, my.
Gregg Phillips (17:03):
If my grandkids are watching this, or when they
do watch it, neither of you getto ride your bikes in anybody's
house.
Audrey Hancock (17:10):
So funny.
Well, it was all tile, so youknow it's a little different if
you have carpet.
Gregg Phillips (17:16):
Yeah.
Audrey Hancock (17:17):
So, but there's a lot of challenges doing In
homeschooling figuring out howto cook things that are
different, how to just deal withelectricity issues, how to take
the kids to the villages, whatthat was like, teaching them to
eat food that they are not usedto.
The closest church service wasthree hours on a bumpy road, and
(17:42):
so that means there are sixhours at least in the car.
So I would put homeschool booksin the car with me and I'd read
on the way Thankfully I don'tget car sick.
I would pack a little snack box, I would put some peanut butter
on a tortilla, roll it up andpass it back and To the backseat
, so that kind of thing.
(18:02):
We didn't have a telephone forfive years, so Communication was
a challenge with people backhome.
We wrote letters with stamps,you know, and so, and that was a
long process because we wouldsend them out with a missionary,
then they would mail them,somebody would write something,
then there'd be a mail drop backto it from Texas into Mexico.
So I kind of feel like the oldtimey.
Gregg Phillips (18:25):
Wow, so.
So I mean I'd want to pry, butyou know I think in a.
We live in a world where, youknow, people don't value Each
other and relationships, and youknow we see that in so many
ways, you know, with divorcesand all the different things
that go on, and it's such astruggle.
How did how did the thestruggle affect your
(18:47):
relationship together?
Audrey Hancock (18:50):
It pressed us together.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean pressure is gonna gonnado something right, and so what
we chose was that it would pushus together Closer, because
we've determined that we run thethree-legged race and so we're
tied together and we try reallyhard to stay in cadence.
Gregg Phillips (19:09):
My goodness, what a, what an amazing witness
for everybody out there.
You know, so many times, Ithink you know, my friends will,
you know, hear that they'regetting a divorce or something's
going on and and I'll call them.
And so many times, you know, I,even me, I just kind of don't
know what to say, all the time,other than you know, I quote him
some scripture and try to, youknow, try to make it better, but
(19:29):
but that is a powerful witness,y'all.
Britt Hancock (19:32):
Yeah, it's hard, it's very hard.
Well, we decided that you knowwhat we're gonna do, we're gonna
do together, and when we gotmarried they pronounced this
husband and wife when we leftand then we came back in and
then we minister together.
Our first act of of as as amarried couple was to do what we
could to minister the gospel inour wedding.
You know, we had a couplepeople get saved and We've, you
(19:56):
know, and then we, everythingthat we've done, we've done
together.
We had our kids on the missionfield.
I Attempted to have them in atleast 50% of the village
services that I was in.
So that did kind of create achallenge, a big challenge for
homeschooling and schoolschedule, but it worked out in
the end.
Gregg Phillips (20:15):
You know well, guys, I mean everything that
you've been through and and your, your family, and raising your
family and and Preparingmissionaries to to do this
incredible work that they do.
Just tell everybody.
I had the great fortune to bein Nicaragua when they were
graduating a few newmissionaries, and that was the
(20:36):
most Heartening experience Ithink I've had in quite some
time Lots of tears, and justtears of joy and happiness and
and looking forward to their, totheir lives.
There was, it were unfoldingbefore him.
It was just it was.
It was really touching andreally amazing.
And I just want to you knowagain say these two are amazing
(21:00):
people.
They are.
They are truly what what onemight consider a missionary or a
set of family missionariesreally are and what they should
be, and and They've just becomeso important in my life that
that I hate to be so effusiveabout it, but but you will no
doubt here lots and lots andlots from me about Mountain
(21:22):
Gateway, audrey and Brit.
So, brit, let's, let's kind ofroll this up into the, the
Crusades and and you know howdid you get there?
And then tell everybody alittle bit about it.
We're gonna cut in that thatone video, that that you shared
with me, showing a little bitabout the Crusades, because I
think it's hard to reallyunderstand what we're talking
(21:44):
about here, Unless you actuallysee the video.
But I can tell you from somebodythat was there one night in
Messiah, nick Raghava, and itwas pouring rain, there was
lightning, according to my phone, within a mile of where we were
telling us to take cover, andpeople weren't just they're not
taking cover, they were comingin closer.
There was close to a hundredthousand people in that muddy
field.
(22:04):
But I'll tell you the otherthing that was there in that
muddy field was the.
You could feel the body andblood of Christ in that field
and as the more it rained, thecloser folks got, and at some
point Brit disappeared out intothe, into the crowd.
You know like, to those of uswho care a little bit about
security, I'm, you know, like,what's he doing?
Announcer (22:25):
We're somebody's gotta go get him.
Gregg Phillips (22:27):
But, anyway, let's talk a little bit about
what got you, what got y'allthere, and then let's talk about
you know, the issues at hand.
Britt Hancock (22:36):
Sure, we've spent most of our life working in
small villages with small groupsof people.
You know lots of small groupsand Most everybody that we
ministered to or discipled wewere in their personal space,
you know.
And so when the Lord starteddealing with me about mass
evangelism campaigns, that thatwas a like a that was sailing
(23:02):
against the wind, so to speak,for the trajectory of our life
unknown and and so we partneredwith another ministry called
shake the nations evangelists,nathan Morris, they do crusades,
and so he had me on his show insome time in 2022 I think it
(23:23):
was in May and he has a TVprogram, and so he invited me
down there and Jesus really kindof invaded the studio and I
Felt like I felt like thatNathan would be willing to go do
(23:45):
crusades in remote, difficultlocations, because the idea that
would that the Lord put in mewas what if we do a mass
evangelism campaign in everyregion of the country,
geographically accessible toevery person in the entire
country, should they choose tocome there?
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In other words, I didn't wantthe location or Circumstance to
be the reason why somebodycouldn't come, because the
people with we work, that wework with that you know they're
two days up the village, up theriver and In remote places and
they never get to go to thesebig events.
Most of the big events are inurban centers and they never
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hear about them or if they do,it's after the fact or it, you
know it's too much money to getthere.
They got a journey to thecapital city somewhere far away.
They don't know anybody, youknow they don't have any place,
you know it's just logistics.
They can't do it Because someof these people make two or
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three dollars a day, you know,and just extremely marginalized
villages.
And so what was in my heart wasthat If we're gonna do this,
let's do a bunch of them, stilla bunch of events, so we get the
entire country covered and noone gets left out.
Everybody has a seat at thetable, every voice matters.
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And so I honestly, brother, Imean it was just God that came
on me, but I had no idea, noidea what I was.
I mean this is a crazy idea.
Audrey Hancock (25:20):
Might be good.
You didn't know at all.
Britt Hancock (25:23):
I had no idea the logistics or the finances or
anything that it was gonna take.
Gregg Phillips (25:28):
Audrey, when we first came down last July and
the very first thing that we didafter we got there was, I guess
we went to a press conferenceor something or I can't even
remember get all my trips mixedup, but when we one of the
beautiful things that they do,y'all is so they'll do an event
and then before the next event,they'll go back and thank all
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the pastors that had come to theprevious event, and so we had
the great fortune ofaccompanying them up into the
mountains and passing all theactive volcanoes while we were
flying.
And we get there and I'mthinking this is, I mean,
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there's not a lot of folksbesides missionaries that have
ever been up here before, butthey brought us to a location
where they had brought a bunchof pastors in and they served us
all lunch and they prayed andthey sang and there was.
So this was, I mean, we'd beenthere for not very long, a few
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hours.
It felt like and we're alreadyexperiencing something that was
developed from the last event,like a month before that, and
there was so much love in thatroom and thankfulness in that
room and it was really thebringing together and you could
almost see it right the bringingtogether of pastors from
different churches and differentcommunities and you know, and
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well, some of them knew eachother and some of them didn't.
Man, there was so much in thatroom but y'all that was so
incredible and we sat there andwe ate and all I could think of
was you know, I've just neverexperienced anything like this
before.
This is beautiful.
With like a hundred folks or 50folks.
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I had no idea what we wereabout to experience.
Britt Hancock (27:21):
Yeah, it exploded .
It really started with the seedof two ministries coming
together, Two very, verydifferent ministries, you know,
kind of at polar opposite endsof the poles as far as the kind
of gospel work we were engagedin.
So, the Lord, you know, itreally was a John 17 miracle
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that began in Nathan and I andGreg.
We saw 6,000 churches rally,6,000 Nicaraguan churches and
all of the people associatedwith those rally together to
participate in unity.
It was extraordinary, it wasTruly, and they just began to
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respond and respond, and respond.
And so, because the governmentknew who I was and I'd been
around talking all through thegovernment and we had responded
to hurricanes and doing all thethings that we were doing and we
were framed in their minds notas a threat.
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When I asked, can we do like 15to 20 of these events around
the country, they said yes, andso Walner was heavily
responsible for that.
The Lord used him mightily andthey gave us a green light and
they backed us and they you knowthat I mean you can't, you
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can't shake an entire nationwithout the government,
especially in one of thoselittle countries, being involved
, and I mean they were providingsecurity for us.
We were, we had governmentpersonnel.
We had government personnelthere.
We had governors and mayors andpeople from the vice president
staff on the stage with us oftenand so incredibly kind to us.
Gregg Phillips (29:14):
I mean, you know , I mean coming up and
introducing themselves to us andhugging us and thanking us for
coming and, you know, worshipingwith us, and I mean the whole
thing.
It was just guys, y'all can't.
It was truly extraordinary,extraordinary experience.
Britt Hancock (29:36):
And then we would whatever space that we procured
to hold a meeting in I thinkthis is a factual statement God
filled it up with desperatepeople and we ended up having
thousands of volunteers and sowe did these eight meetings,
eight campaigns.
They were two day events, allof them, except for the first
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one.
And you know the, the, every.
The momentum was just justgrowing and growing, and growing
, until the last one that we hadwas in November, november the
10th and the 11th, in thenational plaza in Monago, the
capital city, called the Plazade Fe, and the government gave
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us permission to meet there andI think it was a great
opportunity and I think theydidn't really believe that we
could fill the field up, thatGod would do that.
Yeah, so the, the, the lastcampaign that we had was in
November, november 10th and 11th.
That was in the national plaza.
We had thousands of volunteers,we had 3000 buses running, we,
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we, the, the.
You know the government hadmeasured the space and you know
they, they knew how many peoplea full field would be and it's
all these crazy things.
And I mean you were there, thefield filled up to capacity and
the boulevard beside the fieldwent up, you know, like blocks
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full of people.
They were just crammed in thereand so I mean we've been saying
for sure over 200,000 people,but the government drone ran
over the top and they measuredat you know, 278,000.
I think they said.
I totally believe it.
Gregg Phillips (31:25):
Y'all.
I walked out into the, into thecrowd.
First I've got some greatpictures of y'all preaching on
your knees in front of everybodyand then I turned around and
walked back out into the crowdand walked to the far end, and
then I forgot what the name ofthe avenue was, that that fed
the square, but I walked.
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I walked at least a half a miledown the avenue from which we
came and it was crammed full ofpeople that weren't even you
know a half a mile from thesquare.
On all sides of the road, inthe road there was no cars, no,
nothing going through and andfolks I guess I don't know if
they had it on a radio or what,but it was listening to y'all
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preaching and and it was, it was.
It was so spectacular that thatagain I mean me being out there
by myself probably was thesmartest thing in the world.
However, I would say that Iwould do it again anytime,
because I never felt danger ofany type at all, zero.
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I mean, people were coming upto me and hugging me and and
just loving on me and sayinghallelujah and and praising God
with me, and it was, it was.
It was arguably one of the mostimportant events of my life.
And then, of course, y'allprayed for me when I came back
and and you know, I credit thatto this, this, this burgeoning
(32:48):
healing that's happening with meright now.
y'all, and and it was.
It was just amazing.
And and and and and Walner wassuch an amazing part of it,
right?
I mean, you talked about and.
I've been doing events,political events, my whole life.
Guys, y'all know that everybodywho knows me on this show knows
that I've been doing this for along, long time.
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Never, ever seen anything evenclose to that anywhere.
And and and Walner was justsomehow on top of it all and and
making it all happen, and youknow, but still you know, loving
on everybody back behind thestage, and it was just, it was
just a perfect time, and andanyway.
(33:33):
So let's, let's finish up withthat and then let's tell them
what happened for it.
Britt Hancock (33:37):
Yeah, so God really truly shook the entire
nation and and and and it.
It just sparked something inevery area that we kept going
back and having meetings withpastors, you know, like you
mentioned, and they were justreporting and they and they kept
coming.
(33:58):
You know, the pastors from thewhole thing would just keep
coming and keep coming and keepcoming and they were telling us
our churches are full andmiracles are happening and
people are getting saved and ourcommunities are changed.
And you know, there there was15 or 20 prostitutes that used
to hang out at the.
You know, at this spoteverybody knows where they were.
Now there's, you know, three orfour of them there and the
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gangs used to fight.
And now, you know, for the lasttwo months or three months or
whatever, things have been calmand it's like all these crazy
stuff and there was a massiveunity.
And and then, one month and oneday after, on December the 12th,
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so one month and one day fromwhen, when, you know, the last
campaign night was in Managua,they arrested Walner.
So they came.
We had, you know, built out apastoral training facility, we
had a bunch of housing and wehad a disaster relief and
response warehouse forpreparation and our business
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offices were there.
We had a house in Managua forlogistics.
We had the coffee farm.
You know, we were getting readyto build a beneficial to
process the coffee, because wewere getting ready to be
vertically integrated completely.
Because there's so muchcorruption in the coffee
industry and so much thievery,and and poor farmers are the
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ones who who, you know who bearthe brunt of that and so and all
that made me mad.
So I mean we had, we had prayedin you know $600,000 worth of
processing equipment and bought15 acres and getting ready to
build a, you know a, a facilityto to do something about the,
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the corruption in the coffeeindustry.
Like, we were just kind ofgoing everywhere and they
started arresting people.
They arrested Walner and then aweek later they, they started
arresting, you know, theyarrested our five campaign
coordinators who are alsopastors of churches, some of
them big churches.
And then, and then they, theyarrested our three village
(36:13):
church planting, you know,village workers who are like,
one of these guys lives in a mudhouse, an Adobe brick house.
You know he's like zero threat.
These people are zero threats,you know, they, they, and then
they confiscated all of ourstuff.
So they.
They arrested 11 of our peopleand then the government swooped
down about a week after theyarrested those and shut down the
(36:36):
law firm that was representingus.
Central law.
There they have.
They have like multiple law,multiple offices in other
central American countries Likeit's a reputable law firm and
they closed that and they threw.
They threw our two lawyers thathad worked on our stuff.
They're in prison tonight.
Audrey Hancock (36:57):
It's two women.
Britt Hancock (36:58):
Two women, just because they they kept us try to
comply with the laws ofNicaragua, you know.
And so they indicted me and myson, jacob and his wife Cassie,
my daughter-in-law with moneylaundering.
And then they've you know,they've just sort of hinted
around that we're crime bossesand we had this big, elaborate
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plan, starting in 2013, to startworking with these poor
peasants they call them that.
There's no way that they couldever be a real pastor, which is
infuriating to me, you knowthey're.
You know, I thought socialistswere supposed to be champions of
the poor, but they're saying,oh, these are not real pastors
(37:43):
because they're not educated,you know, and they live in small
villages.
You know that, just, I don'tlike that stuff and I've always.
I have deep gratitude, even now, for the Nicaraguan government
saying yes to allow us, becausewe had a million people come
together for those eightcampaigns.
Gregg Phillips (38:05):
Praise God.
Britt Hancock (38:07):
And there was an ocean of people that responded
to the call to meet Jesus.
There were hundreds ofthousands of people that said
yes to the invitation.
I mean, how many hands did yousee up?
Go up in just a minagua.
Gregg Phillips (38:21):
Oh, countless.
Britt Hancock (38:24):
You know, you can't see the end of them.
You can really only see about45,000 people.
The rest after that they justbleed into one solid mass.
I never thought I would knowthings like that.
You know, one time Audra and Iwere standing on the, on the
platform, and there were I don'tknow where we were, I think we
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were in Ocotal there were almost50,000 people out there and she
looked at me and we were bothcrying and she said I'm sure I'm
glad we said yes, because wehad to say yes to God, you know,
to have mass meetings and to doall the things.
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I had no idea what it was gonnatake logistically.
We didn't have the money.
When I said yes, we didn't havethe equipment.
I mean, we were buying vehiclesand you know, it's like we had
45 vehicles running and we stillhad to rent three or four of
them.
Gregg Phillips (39:26):
And yet you were embezzling money right.
Britt Hancock (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, right , right, we were embezzling
money, we were laundering money.
Somehow it's like I don't know,you know, it's like our donor
base responded in an amazing way.
You know, I don't know, it'sjust an extraordinary thing, but
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they lowered the hammer on usand so now there's three
Americans indicted.
They're gonna try us inabstentia beginning in early
March.
One of the things that has usreally concerned is Walner's
wife.
Maricela was our administrator,ran the office and was over
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accounting practices andeverything.
They arrested her.
They've got her in prison.
We haven't seen her since.
So they're both in prison.
They're two children Babiesreally are with their
grandmother tonight.
Both their babies are UScitizens.
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The police seized theirdocuments.
They're stuck in Nicaragua andthe State Department told me in
a briefing a few days ago youwere there in that briefing
where they said that theNicaraguan government, when they
decide someone is opposed tothem, they take it out on all
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the whole family, you know, andso we're concerned for all these
pastors' families.
I'm concerned for the kids.
We all are.
We're working, trying to getthe kids out of the country.
We're doing everything that wecan to urge the Nicaraguan
government just to let the momgo.
I mean, just let her go, youknow, and we're trying to get
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them out of there and to theUnited States.
You know we're trying.
I want all these, I wanteverybody out of prison.
The Nicaraguan government usedthis service that Interpol
provides called a red diffusion.
It's not a red notice, so it'snot anywhere in the official
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processes of Interpol so itdoesn't have to stand up to the
scrutiny that can be appealed,so it's kind of off the record.
They serve as a message boardso they used them to send out
this immigration arrest orderagainst me and Jacob and Cassie
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and maybe another of my bestfriend, bruce Wagner is a
businessman who was heavilyinvolved in helping us make all
this stuff happen.
Audrey Hancock (42:20):
And how we met you, Greg.
Britt Hancock (42:21):
So how we met you , and so you know we've been
notified that six countries havesaid okay, we'll participate,
we'll grab them if they comehere and arrest them and
extradite them to you.
And one of those countries isMexico.
And that's really problematicfor us because now we can't go
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there and we got all this workgoing in Mexico.
It's like it's not happy, likethis part is not happy, and so
we've been.
You know, we've really likewhen it first happened, I mean
some of these people we've sownour life into, you know, we've
lived with them and they're, youknow, even though Walner's not
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that much younger than us, Imean he feels like our son.
You know he calls us mom anddad.
Gregg Phillips (43:10):
Actually, and he calls me papa, the same thing
my grandkids call me.
Britt Hancock (43:16):
So yeah, and so, on the one hand, we have
extraordinary, amazing gratitudeto have seen a multitude of
people come to Jesus and to seeGod shake an entire nation and
to see something that wasextraordinary.
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I mean, we had a window of timethere.
I didn't know.
I mean, you don't ever, youdon't ever know.
You know God spoke to me in thebeginning, before all this
started, and he told me I'vedecided to do something in
Nicanagua.
No one can stop it.
And we watched him do it andpeople responded in mass Like I
know what a certified multitudeof people looks like now.
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You know, I didn't think that I,I didn't think I would ever be
there, but the Lord put us there.
He put us there with Nathan andtheir team, what our teams
became like family.
You know, us and the ShakedNations team.
We were doing some of thesethings.
We did every two weeks.
You know we started in February, we ended in November and we
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took a break for rainy season.
So I mean they were, you know,we were doing them, they were
happening, and so there's deepgratitude for the multitude of
people and I don't regret ouryes and I would say yes again,
knowing that this happened.
You know, I really would,because it's something the Lord
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asked me to do, but at the sametime, it's like.
It's like there's deepgratitude and anguish that live
in the same crib togetherbecause on the micro level, I
mean, these are people that welove, that we sowed our, that
we've sown our lives wereintegrated together with them.
That's what I'm saying.
So there's there's the macroand the micro and it's it's been
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very paradoxical andincongruent and my emotions, our
emotions, have been all overthe place.
Like you know, I don't regret amultitude of people meeting
Jesus.
I don't regret Jesus shaking anation, don't regret that at all
(45:28):
.
But I'm mad, I'm sad, I'm everyother kind of emotion that they
have our friends and ourbrothers in prison and that a
mother separated from her babies, her four month old and her two
year old.
I just really don't like that.
I don't think God likes that.
Gregg Phillips (45:49):
No, I don't.
I don't think so either.
I do want to say a couple ofquick things.
I had the good fortune to spendsome time with with Brett last
week, and and we've been on thephone with a bunch of folks, and
I just want to say that youknow, everybody on here knows,
I've I've been critical of ofthe United States government
(46:10):
occasionally or all the time, orwhatever.
But I want to tell you that wemet some people at the State
Department that have someresponsibilities down in Central
America and and even across theWestern Hemisphere a few of
them and and then we've had some, some just amazing support from
some folks from DHS that I'veknown for a few years that have
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been reaching out and helping usand and helping reach out to,
you know, the necessary peopleto try to get those babies out,
to try to get matters out andand get her released and really
try to turn some semblance ofnormalcy while while we work
through the details of gettingthe pastors released.
But if I could just ask y'all,you know, uh, uh, brett, audrey,
(46:58):
what, what, what can folks thatare listening to this I suspect
you're going to see a hundredthousand folks listen to this
and probably another hundredthousand.
See it, what, what can they do?
What, what, what do you wantthem to do?
Britt Hancock (47:13):
First thing you can do is pray for us, pray for
the brothers that are imprisoned, pray for Nicaragua.
The second thing you can do iscall and write your, your
senators and yourrepresentatives, echoing what
you just said, greg.
You know I hadn't I okay.
So I know there's plenty of, Iknow there's plenty of reason
(47:37):
for concern over what'shappening in our country, but
you got to understand ourcontext.
Our context is we've spent alot of years working in third
world countries that do not haveour ideals and our form of
government, and one of the mainreasons why we're in this
problem in Nicaragua is becausethere's no separation of powers
(47:58):
there.
They're purging the governmentand they're they're doing
whatever they're doing.
I mean, you can read about itin the news, you can look up all
kinds of recent history onNicaragua and see what they're
doing.
It's not hard and it's nothidden.
There there's no separation ofpowers, there's no independent
branches in the government.
And what I've learned in thelast 10 days in Washington?
(48:23):
I'm astounded and superencouraged because this is my
first experience coming toWashington and I know God's
involved okay, I get it and he'sdoing all this, but the fact
that we can walk in unannouncedand not be anybody really.
I mean, you find out who knowswho, and we got a lot of people
(48:46):
that have known, a lot of peoplethat are helping us connect the
dots.
There's no doubt about it.
The people I've sat in front ofin the last 10 days I never
dreamed I would, but what I'msaying is the fact that you can
walk into the halls of Congressand, if you have enough time,
they will sit down and listen toyour concern.
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They'll do it.
That does not exist in any ofthe other countries that we've
lived in in the last, you know,27 years, and that's something
worth fighting for.
There's a lot of people in thistown that are distressed over
the slide and the deteriorationand they know how it used to be
(49:27):
versus how it is now.
But us, coming in dealing with,you know, a totalitarian regime
that just threw all our peoplein jail, and they're throwing
people our lawyers in jail justbecause they did legal work for
us, you know, and so we.
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I think we've got 11representatives and four, maybe
five senators that are pushing,that are helping us do things
like.
There's already been one floorspeech.
There's going to be more floorspeeches.
We need that to put pressure onthe Nicaraguan government.
There's a letter that the lastcount that I saw has 28
(50:15):
signatures on it, threeDemocrats and the rest
Republicans from both houses atotal of 28.
I don't know how many senatorshave signed on, but that letter
is going to go to the Nicaraguanambassador to the United States
asking for responses.
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Nicaragua probably won't respondtoo much from that.
They'll rattle their swords andtry to act like they're.
You know they're resisting theimperialists, that's what they
call us but it's going to botherthem.
It will pressurize things.
That's what we've been told.
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And then there's a resolutionthat they're going to get on the
floor of the house that they'recirculating to try to get.
And there are people it'sbipartisan like that because
religious persecution issues gotour people thrown in jail.
Human rights issues are keepingthem in jail.
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And then I mean you know they'rein bed with China.
You can read about how they'reclosing big loans.
They have billions of dollarsin infrastructure loans.
We just saw in the news thatthey just closed an almost half
a billion dollar, $500 milliondollar loan almost to build a
(51:41):
new international airport rightoutside Managua.
Every time we were going andcoming from there, the
Nicaraguan government wasprocessing us in and out of the
diplomatic channels as we cameand went.
And so, yeah, you came into thediplomatic salon there, you
(52:03):
know, fast tracked us throughimmigration and through customs
and all that.
But the last six months we keptrunning into delegations from
China I ran into twice, I raninto the ambassador from China
to Nicaragua, you know.
And so this is not good.
This is not good and there's noway that China is happy about a
(52:24):
movement that could motivate amillion people in the name of
Jesus to congregate in 6,000evangelical churches, unified
and filling up the NationalPlaza, the largest meeting that
had ever happened in theNational Plaza in the history of
the country.
That was a planned meeting, youknow.
I don't know about protests ordemonstrations, but a planned
(52:47):
event.
This never happened.
Nobody's gotten that manypeople there.
God did that and it's anextraordinary miracle of John 17
.
And if you don't know what John17 is, you need to go read it.
It's about unity and it's aboutharmony, and unity doesn't mean
(53:09):
uniformity.
It's actually our differencesthat create the opportunity for
unity to work.
And so, you know, extraordinary.
But the situation that we havenow, I don't know.
People are asking us do youthink you're ever going to get
to go back?
I don't know.
I mean, we can't go back rightnow.
Certainly we'll get thrown inprison and if I'm in prison down
(53:34):
there, nobody's here knockingon doors because it's growing
Now our papers and theinformation and people that
you've connected us with, andnow they're talking to each
other and their aides and theirstaffers are talking to each
other and they're circulatingthe stuff, and now I'm getting
meetings with people that aresaying, instead of me having to
(53:55):
bring them up to speed on thewhole story, they're going.
Can you give me an update?
Gregg Phillips (53:59):
That's beautiful .
Britt Hancock (54:01):
And then they're also saying thank you for coming
and I'm like I feel like youknow, I feel like I want to cry
that people that have influenceand power are listening and
taking action.
And you know and I know,there's so many people out there
that are stuck in situationsthat they need people in power
(54:24):
in this town to take action on.
So I understand that.
I'm full of gratitude anddeeply grateful that everyone
I've sat across the table fromin person and looked in their
eyes have responded, I mean withurgency, and they're talking to
people and I mean I've talkedto some people like that have
(54:47):
power and that can move thingsand they're motivated to help
and they're saying how can wehelp, what can we do?
And everything that we've askedfor they're taking action on.
And it's a multi-tiered thing.
You're like you're helping inmultiple ways.
This podcast right here isgoing to help, because that's
(55:09):
part of the strategy.
We need as much of this stuffto go viral as possible to
create public awareness to thehuman rights and religious
persecution issues that arehappening in Nicaragua.
Look into Nicaragua, use Google, google you will see what's
happening.
They kicked out 3,600 nonprofitsand NGOs since 2018.
(55:35):
They kicked out the Red Cross.
Last month they pulled out ofthe Organization of American
States.
They fought a war with theCatholics.
They severed diplomaticrelations with the Roman
Catholic Church.
In February they imprisoned abunch of Catholic priests that
(55:57):
were calling out their humanrights violations.
One of them, bishop Alvarez, Ithink, is his name.
They arrested him, tried himfor treason, found him guilty.
He was in prison for over 500days.
They just now, thank the Lord,released him.
They exiled them to the Vaticanand, leading up to the last
(56:22):
election, they arrested thestrong presidential opposition
candidates in the lastpresidential election, put them
in prison.
And then there were a bunch ofpolitical prisoners in Nicaragua
, over 222 of them that gotexiled to the United States in
February.
I mean, like the StateDepartment is saying to us you
(56:44):
were there, greg, you heard them.
Look, we're kind of frustratedthat there's not as much
awareness out there.
Like there's theseorganizations that are watching
and they don't feel like manypeople are listening.
We need noise, like we needsocial media noise.
I'll go on every news programthat I can.
(57:07):
I am going to stay in this townand talk to every congressman
and senator who will let me infront of them.
Someone said look, how many doyou want in your coalition?
I want all of them in thecoalition, because there are
elements in this that we can allagree on.
(57:27):
The separation of a mother fromher baby is not right, no
matter your political persuasion.
Like, if we can't agree on that, we are really lost as a nation
.
Gregg Phillips (57:42):
Audrey, one of the things that has really
struck me in all of this is justhow many people in our world
that have been ready, willingand able to stand up and speak
and fight, and a few folks thatI've introduced Brett to and
just really everybody we talkedto.
I know that Katherine helpedconnect you with the IFA people
(58:03):
or maybe we're already connected, but kind of hooked that up.
We've just had such an amazingexperience with IFA.
They've been with us almostthroughout our entire challenges
that we find ourselves inoccasionally, but nothing like
this.
It did occur to me.
One of the things I think thatwe could do with IFA and if I
(58:25):
could get your support and yourhelp is Katherine and I.
I've listened to Brent and I'mthinking you know what we really
need to do.
We need to get.
It's one thing to get a letterfrom a bunch of members of
Congress, which is great, but weneed to get just the regular
folks out there, the believersright, the folks at IFA and all
(58:46):
of their million people listento them, and the folks that
listen to us and other big.
We have a lot of reach thesedays into some of these areas.
Wouldn't it be amazing, audrey,if we could figure out a way to
get one of those letters to theNicaraguan embassy together
from the believers in Americaand instead of having 435
(59:09):
members of Congress, let's get400,000 people to sign something
and in the name of.
Audrey Hancock (59:18):
God we can do this, we can move this Right,
because I get newsletters fromIntercessors from America and
different organizations, andit'll be like take action.
You just push the red button,then you fill in your name and
then you've sent it.
And I do that all the time, sothat I'm participating in
putting my name out there,saying yes, this is what I
(59:40):
believe, and telling mycongressman this is what I want
you to do to represent me and soeven those organizations to be
able to I mean to figure out howto write a letter like that to
the people that are like withthe Intercessors for America or
for, maybe, a research camp Idon't know, there's all sorts of
(01:00:01):
ones that can do that but to beable to just fill out your name
, send it to your congressman.
So having help from somebodylike that also is the prayer,
and people have been asking howthey could financially help us
because the bills are rising.
Yep, and we're really trying tohelp.
We've got the bills in Americaas well as mostly we've got tons
(01:00:26):
of you know what we're doing inNicaragua as much as we can,
just to continue like we've gotour legal defense, and so we're
going to put up a link on ourpage in Mountain Gateway.
Gregg Phillips (01:00:39):
If you'll send me that link, y'all, I'll be
sure to not just put it on here,but I'll get it.
We'll put Catherine and I'llput together we've done a few of
these virtual fundraisers andwe'll bring y'all on maybe to
talk to everybody and we'llbring in thousands of people
that will be willing to supportand help y'all and we'll
continue to beat that drum.
(01:01:00):
And Audrey, so I'll work withyou and Catherine on getting the
prayer letters together.
Y'all send to me the donor, youknow the links and all the
things that you need there, andthen we'll all four work
together.
To you know, continue to dowhat we're doing here.
It sounds so beautiful.
But you know, I would just urgeall of my, you know, by the
time this runs, I'd love tobelieve that those babies would
be safe and out of harm, out ofpotentially harm's way.
Audrey Hancock (01:01:24):
Right before I left Nicaragua, I was helping.
I was helping Maricela with herlittle newborn and at that time
he was just two months old andhe had a diaper rash.
And so she was coming to me andsaying so how would you treat
this?
Because you've had four kids,and so I mean it's just a
littlest thing, right.
(01:01:45):
But I just went over there, Ihelped her with her little baby
getting the desatine on itslittle bottom, just helping him
out.
And I'm thinking this is just alittle two month old and just a
few days later he didn't havehis mama.
You know, that just breaks myheart.
(01:02:05):
And then, and then little theirdaughter, who's two and a half,
which is exactly the same ageas our granddaughter, and those
two little girls play togetherall the time when they're in
Nicaragua, or they fighttogether for the Minnie Mouse
right, and they just she wouldall the time call La Mama, la
(01:02:26):
Mama.
You know what I mean, just likecalling out for her mama.
And she just loved her mom,hated to be away from her, and
we've just heard that every dayshe asks can I call my mama, can
I call my mama?
And she can't, she can't talkto her mama.
Gregg Phillips (01:02:45):
Well, y'all, I'll tell you this, guys, y'all
listen to that and I'm justgonna tell you that you know,
brett and I and some otherfriends are working as fast as
we can to get those babies outof there and in fact I'm
probably leaving here tomorrowto head at least down to near
(01:03:08):
near Central America to or,excuse me, yeah, in Central
America to see what I can do tohelp.
But again, there's a lot ofpeople in the Department of
Homeland Security that arehelping the State Department or
helping reach out to everyoneyou know, whether they're
Congressman or you know.
If you know, you know, urgegovernors to reach out to the
(01:03:29):
senators and get everybody youcan to start building a little
bit of drumbeat here, put it insocial media.
You can look on my social media, you know we'll connect you to
Brett and Audrey and MountainGateway and in police.
You know I look forward todoing the fundraiser for them.
So if y'all are so inclined and, you know, have a few dollars
(01:03:49):
that you could, you know, sharewith these folks, that would be
great.
I think what we're probablygonna do is Catherine and I are
probably gonna try to matchwhatever y'all do, and then
we've got a few other donors.
I think that'll do the same,and let's just try to take at
least that piece of it off ofthem.
Let's get these letterstogether.
Let's get the communicationsgoing to everyone that you can
(01:04:10):
think of, whether it's yourpastors that know folks or just
y'all get up and tell yourchurch congregation about what's
going on.
If you need detail andinformation from me, we'll put a
bunch of it in the descriptionhere, but if you need something
specifically for me, write tograce at openinc.
We're gonna put together aspecial collection of all of
this on Open Inc.
(01:04:30):
These guys don't know what thatis, but they'll soon learn, and
we're gonna put all of thisdocumentation so anybody who
wants it can go get it in onespot.
We'll put this video andeverything else up there.
We just wanna be sure that wesupport all of the work that you
guys, that they're doing, butall of the work that I know that
all of the listeners andfollowers of this channel will
(01:04:52):
and can do.
Catherine and I are sounbelievably grateful to Brent
and Audrey for allowing us intheir family, and it's our time
now to fight for them and asthey've been for me from a
health perspective for the timeI've known them.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:11):
So thank you so much, Thank you brother Y'all.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:15):
I just can't thank you both enough.
We will not only pray for y'all, but we'll have another prayer
vigil for y'all.
Maybe we'll do add fasting toit this time and try to see if
we can get it north of 50,000this time.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:31):
Thank you.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:31):
Thank you so much.
Audrey Hancock (01:05:33):
Well, I've been telling people that that'd be
awesome.
I know that the doors that areopening here in this city are
because people are praying in.
Christ Without a doubt, withouta doubt, we appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Gregg Phillips (01:05:49):
Amen.
Well, I appreciate y'all somuch and thank you both so much.
Please go home, get some rest.
I'll tell everybody a quickstory.
So Audrey's here right now here, meaning in DC but it was just
a couple of days ago that Brenthad her own FaceTime and she was
leaving to take her daughterand granddaughter back to Japan
(01:06:13):
and then turned right around andwent from Japan straight back
here.
So it was something like 30hours of flying or some kind of
nonsense like that.
Audrey Hancock (01:06:21):
Yeah, it's a lot .
Gregg Phillips (01:06:24):
And she somehow is still awake.
I haven't quite figured thatout yet.
But, guys, thank y'all so much.
I appreciate your time.
I love you both, and my teamand the Patriot games team,
catherine and everybody on theTruth of the Vote side are gonna
do everything we can do to helpyou, to help those pastors, to
help Marcella, to help thosebabies.
Audrey Hancock (01:06:43):
Love you too, Greg.
Gregg Phillips (01:06:45):
Love you brother .
Audrey Hancock (01:06:45):
And love to Catherine too.
Gregg Phillips (01:06:48):
Thanks guys.
Y'all have a great night.
Thanks everybody for joining uson Patriot Games and we'll be
in touch soon and look forwardto a few coming announcements on
this topic.
Thanks for coming bye.
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