March 7, 2024 • 24 mins
April Moss, the brave whistleblower who made waves by exposing her former employer CBS Detroit, joins us with a story of defiance and truth-seeking that promises to keep you riveted. Through her eyes, we'll witness the remarkable journey Open.Ink has traveled from its wiki roots in 2016 to the powerhouse of transparency it is today. Our platform's enhanced search capabilities and special collections are just the start, as we continue to challenge the mainstream with a treasure trove of reliable information for thinkers, families, and educators alike.
Feel the anticipation build as we celebrate the enigmatic John G. Trump and his clandestine contributions to physics, alongside a peek into his historical intrigue. It's not just about looking back; our episode brings forth discussions on central bank digital currencies and sheds light on once-classified NSA documents, revealing technologies that could reshape your understanding of the military's past capabilities. We're not just about sparking curiosity—we're also nurturing tomorrow's truth-seekers with a learning management system for ethical data scraping and a collaborative chat room to solidify a community dedicated to honesty and transparency. Thanks to our partnership with Greg and Catherine, this podcast stands as a testament to our commitment to lift the veil on the untold stories that shape our world.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
No matter where you are, you are being watched.
In today's world, no one is offthe grid.
Existing in the modern worldhas been forever changed.
What's out there?
Most people don't want to know,but you are about to get clued
(00:26):
in.
This is Patriot Games.
We'll explore differentintelligence techniques,
spycraft and the latestcutting-edge technology that
will blow your mind.
We'll introduce you to proswho've spent careers in the
(00:46):
Intel community With incrediblestories.
We'll expose it all.
Welcome to Patriot Games.
And now your host, gregPhillips.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hey everybody, it's Greg Phillips.
Welcome back to Patriot Games.
We have a special show today,Super excited about this.
All of you know that we've beeninvolved with our opening
project for a number of yearsand have stumbled and bumbled
our ways through it.
I think I started it in 2016 asa wiki.
It's made its way now to.
(01:32):
We had a beta version that welaunched last year that we took
it down and we put it back upand we took it back down and we
started launching specialcollections and have recently
redone our search capability.
But the most important thingand the item about which we are
most excited, Catherine and Iwant to introduce you to the new
(01:55):
voice of OpenInc April Moss.
April, welcome to Patriot Games.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, greg, it's such an honor to be here with you
today and I'm really excitedabout the great content that
we're going to be able toprovide to people through the
OpenInc podcast show.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, it's so exciting for me and, as I said a
minute ago, it's hard for me tostomach or swallow the idea
that I've been messing aroundwith this since 2016 and have it
quite pushed it over the edge.
But I sort of feel like this isreally a kickoff, even though
we've had the site out there forquite a while.
We've had millions of viewersand thanks to all of you that
(02:35):
have been to the site and signedup and for those of you that
haven't signed up, openinc, youcan go in, sign up and we'll
send out newsletters and allthat kind of stuff.
But the most important thingthat we have is April in the
show.
We have hundreds and hundredsof thousands of documents in
OpenInc.
As you know, many of you haveseen some of our special
(02:57):
collections.
We did one on John G Trump,president Trump's uncle.
We did another one on the stateof Georgia that we've just
recently talked about a littlebit.
You can go see those onOpenIncslash, jgt for Trump and
Georgia, for the Georgia one,and then we have a whole bunch
of J6 stuff and we're going tobe cranking out a bunch of new
(03:21):
special collections.
But again, putting a voice to itis so important in April and
can you give everybody justmaybe a little bit about your
background and how you not onlyhow you got here, but I think
people be interested to hearyour story.
It's really pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, for those that don't know who I am, I am a
meteorologist and a journalist,and I worked for CBS in Detroit
for nearly a decade beforeblowing the whistle on my local
television station during liveTV, during my weather forecast,
because they were lying to thepeople, because of the
propaganda that was being pumpedup and I didn't want to be part
(04:07):
of it anymore.
But, more importantly, I wantedthe public to know that they
were not to be trusted.
And I come at this from aperspective of I'm a Christ
follower.
I have four wonderful sons thatI'm trying to raise along with
my husband.
We've been married happily fornearly 19 years and my
(04:30):
congratulations, thanks forlistening.
Thank you, and my whole goal inlife is to raise godly young men
.
Well, you can't do that ifyou're raising them up and
they're believing that what's onthe television is truth when
it's lies.
And so I um, you know, prayedabout what to do.
(04:50):
My husband had my back and hesaid you got to do this, and
together, as a family, we madethe decision that I was going to
walk away from, uh, my careeras a meteorologist.
My life could have been a loteasier had I just stayed silent,
but I didn't want to, and I'mso honored and humbled to be
able to now devote my life todoing things that matter and
(05:13):
helping to raise awareness ofthe things that we need to know
about, and that's why I'm soexcited that, uh, greg, that you
had this vision for the show,because we're going to be able
to give people real, solidinformation that they can share
with friends and family so thatthey can make educated decisions
.
You know, the Bible says mypeople perish for lack of
(05:35):
knowledge.
Well, we are going to be aknowledge storehouse with open
ink and with the opening podcast, and I can't wait to bring you
in depth uh interviews,conversations.
Uh, we've got the documentationto back up everything that we're
going to be talking about, andwe really have a broader vision,
too, that this show will besomething that parents will want
(05:57):
to even have their, theirteenagers, uh, listen to as as
part of their curriculum forhomeschool, and this is going to
be a resource that people allacross the country and world
will want to come to to say well, listen, what the mainstream
media is saying about this, youknow, isn't true, and when I
even do a Google search, I'm notsure if those answers are true.
(06:19):
So where do I go to get truth?
Well, you go to openink andwe're going to have all of the
collections compiled.
We're going to have more andmore projects, uh, and documents
and data continually upload itfor you and your families to be
able to use, and you can trustthat it's not going to be
changed or altered by AI, umthat this is going to be a
(06:44):
wealth of information on prettymuch any topic.
So right now, uh, we're excitedto bring you, um a series that
we're going to talk about, andwe're hoping to launch this in
the next couple of weeks andwe'll have all of the
information on how you canaccess the show and, um, we'd
love to help you, uh, be able tostay educated and keep your
(07:08):
family informed on the importanttopics that the mainstream
media won't tell you about youknow, april, it really resonates
with me.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Um, in part because of the John G Trump collection.
Uh, we started this.
We had five or six, um, some ofthem were volunteers, some of
them were were helping us, um,um, just trying to try to get a
a one of the first bigcollections going.
While we were working on theJohn Trump one, the whole thing
came up with Connick.
We went to jail and, uh, wedecided, um, the day before our
(07:39):
discovery was due to the otherside, uh, we decided just to
take.
We had nothing to hide.
We decided to take everythingin our discovery for the Connick
case and put it out into openInc.
So you can go to openinc, slashConnick and see everything that
we were going to give to thejudge and going to give to the
court, uh, relative to ourdiscovery, uh, or to their
(08:02):
discovery of of us.
And we dumped it in there.
In like two days later theydropped the case and and, um,
you know we thought, well, gosh,that was, that was pretty, that
was pretty cool.
Then we started sort ofconglomerating or or
accumulating, gathering all ofthe information that had been
accumulated by some of theresearchers on John Trump.
(08:24):
And as I began to look throughit again.
I'm like this is unbelievable.
And then we find his ward diary.
What was really fascinatingabout the war diary?
And we, I had no idea, didn'tsee this anywhere, didn't even
see, didn't even see it reallycoming.
But he was the longest-tenuredprofessor at MIT.
Um, he was heavily involved inin radar, the radar solutions
(08:45):
that ended up helping us winWorld War Two, and the
consequence of that is that hespent a lot of his time in World
War Two in the UK, in GreatBritain.
And so I'm looking through thisthing and I'm I'm thinking, man
, this is an amazing war diary,I mean, and he had been
meticulous and you know, I wentto, you know I presented in
(09:07):
front of the queen today and Idid this and I did that.
I'm like this is, this is crazy.
Then I found out that there isanother war diary over in the UK
, in Oxford, that one of theresearchers found and we paid
for it, ordered it, had it sentover, and it was like 130 pages
different than the one that wasin MIT.
(09:28):
Begging the question then, well, my goodness, what was in that
130 pages that they didn't want,that they didn't want out there
, and it was just.
It was just a really funadventure.
We had the the great fortune ofof being able to present it to
President Trump at a bigpolitical event in Alabama and
and and he was just so graciousand not just just his, his
(09:52):
praise for Open Inc and what wehad done, but really for helping
America and helping othersaround the world really
understand just who John G Trumpreally was.
This guy was.
He was one of the greatestphysicists of our time.
As I said, he was, he was.
He was instrumental in the warin Europe, in World War II, and
(10:15):
just stories about the family,and pictures and young.
An interesting piece is onepicture of John Trump as a young
man looks so much like BarronTrump, president Trump's son,
that putting them side by sideis like eerie.
It's like whoa.
(10:35):
That is crazy.
So it's so much fun to seethose kinds of things.
You don't see it all on onGoogle or any of the other major
search engines, and so think welike to think of it as is kind
of a giant curated search enginethat we're going to go through
and do research on.
But, as you said, there's somany topics and so many things
(10:55):
we could delve into.
One of the reasons we'reexcited about having you is your
expertise and knowledge aroundthe vaccines and all the things
that are going to come out ofthat.
We hope to see a lot of reallyinteresting stuff there and,
like you said, I mean havingkids be involved in it, and my
(11:16):
poor grandson and his sisterhave to spend a lot of time
listening to their papa, youknow kind of babble on about
this kind of stuff.
But, april, this is like whatit's all about, right?
I mean we feel like we're sortof preserving history for these
kids.
You know the real truth ratherthan some bogus truth about
(11:39):
America's past, and I just can'twait.
I mean I look forward tohearing your show and seeing you
and what do you think you know?
What do you?
What do you think the future ofopening looks like?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, well, I think it's, first of all, very bright
and I can imagine that, as wecontinue to sell the alarm of
the importance of making surethat we're preserving documents
that don't get manipulated by AI, we've already many of the
viewers right here on the show.
They know that the agenda is tochange the Bible.
(12:15):
We have a version of the Biblealready on openinc and I just
want to say it's reallyimportant that everyone
understands it's openinc, notopeninc.
So openinc and this is going tobe a place where we're going to
continue to keep searching andscraping for the real, authentic
(12:36):
documents through FOIA requestsand many other, you know,
researchers coming alongside andhelping us get this information
.
But we'd love to hear from youtoo.
If there's a topic that you goon to openinc and you say, hey,
you don't have anything aboutthis yet.
We'd love to hear that.
So please give us that feedbackand that'll give us, you know,
(12:58):
a good goal point to set for.
We are going to be talking aboutcentral bank digital currencies
coming up.
We're going to be providing allof the information on that.
We're going to have specialguests join the show who are
experts in that field.
We have NSA documents that arejust amazing.
(13:19):
They're phenomenal.
I spent some time on thewebsite yesterday looking
through the different NSAdocuments.
We're going to be kind ofdissecting some of those things
and saying, hey, did you guyseven know that this happened or
what about this?
And it's just interestinginformation, Certainly something
that could be as part of ahistory curriculum and even just
(13:42):
for the general public, who hasno idea the technologies that
the military has had for decades.
We're going to be delving intosome of that stuff Because I
know that the average person ifthey're not military minor they
don't have a militaryintelligence backgrounds they
have no idea that the militaryhas had certain technologies for
a long time.
We actually have the evidenceof these things in openinc.
(14:06):
It's just very fascinating togo through and read up on some
of those things.
But we're going to be our job isgoing to be going in and
finding the most compellinginformation, bringing it to the
forefront for you to make iteasy, but then also encouraging
you hey, if you want to godeeper, you want to dig deeper,
(14:27):
go ahead.
Head over to the website,create a free account.
We always want to make thisfree for everyone, but, yeah,
we'd love to have your support.
So I'm excited about launchingthis.
We'll have it up and running inthe next couple of weeks and
I'm really honored to partner,Greg, with you and Catherine in
(14:48):
this endeavor.
And I just I remember beingthere in Arizona with you guys
at the pit when you werepresenting all of this
information on the Konex story,and it was palpable the
seriousness of the situation andalso the dire need for a
platform like openinc to be ableto provide transparency to the
(15:10):
public so important.
When we have sunlight andtransparency on things, then
those that want to deceive arenot able to do so.
So kudos to you and Catherinefor having that courage,
conviction, and you know youguys are bright, shining lights
(15:31):
right now in a very dark world.
So I'm honored to partner withyou in this endeavor.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, thanks, april, we, you know, one of the visions
that that Catherine had andshe's really been been a real
driver on is training people andgetting a building more and
more researchers.
There are, you know, all sortsof different techniques for
scraping.
You know you've got to do itethically, you've got to do it
legally, sometimes spending themwith CITRE in and and and.
(16:00):
We're going to install alearning management system so
that we can train people how todo certain advanced techniques
and research, maybe invite someof our better researchers in to
to teach one or two of theclasses.
We're looking forward to that.
We're developing a think of itas kind of a chat room that
(16:22):
diggers will be able to ifthey're digging on John Trump or
Connick or whatever else.
It is, being able to createtheir own room and share
information and share chat.
We're going to be uploadingthat here in the next month or
so and really just look forwardto this being a community of
researchers, a community ofjournalists, a community of
(16:43):
really anyone who wants to comein and really know and
understand.
And I love the idea, april, ofpeople contributing their own
ideas to this.
That's, that's genius.
So I mean, even in this chatroom, if you have an idea for
something you'd like to look at,put it in the chat, send it to
grace at open dot Inc.
And we'll forward it along toto our team and start looking
(17:06):
through it.
And then, as April begins toroll this out the chat in her
show, if you come up with anidea while she's talking, just
note it in there.
I mean, if there's something wemissed, if there's something
that you think would be a betterapproach, let's put it in there
.
Maybe we can get you involved,maybe we can, you know, maybe we
can let you kind of take thelead on some of the research.
So really, nothing's off thetable.
(17:27):
It's all about transparency.
It's all about, you know, westarted this because of open
records and we wanted a place tobe able to put open records,
whether they be from the courtsor wherever.
I had been provided, back in2016, a database of of non
citizens in the United Statesand, man, I mean we announced
(17:52):
that we were going to, you know,release this list and
everything in the world happened.
I mean it went.
I mean everything blew up andwent crazy.
But I think back to that andI'm like that was really him.
Handed on my part.
What would have been reallycool is to do some research on
this, and I've now learned thatmore non citizens will come
(18:14):
across the border during theBiden administration than the
than the entire time that EllisIsland was open, and come in and
learn about those things andreally try to understand them.
There's a huge misunderstandingout there about how many non
citizens are, even in America.
There was a Pew report doneback in early 2000s 2001.
(18:35):
, and it said there wereapproximately 9 million.
The media has talked about thatas though it's still a fact
since 2001.
It wasn't a 2000.
It wasn't a fact in 2001.
It wasn't a fact in 2016 when Iblew it up again, and it's not
a fact now.
It's probably closer to 45 or50 million by now.
(18:55):
But being able to tell thatstory, and tell it in the
context of Ellis Island and ofthe history of immigration into
America Last night I was.
I was thinking about you, april.
I was on a.
I was on a plane coming back toAlabama and sat next to a guy.
I was like I'm going to pullout his cards, I don't mess it
up.
His name is JD Walker.
(19:17):
Mr Walker is is maybe thepremier immigration lawyer in
America and of course he handleslegal immigration and so he,
you know, kind of looks at it ina whole different way than I do
, and I had this incrediblyinteresting conversation about
the difference between illegalimmigration and legal
(19:38):
immigration and and it was, itwas just fascinating.
So, you know, I was thinking,you know I need to call April
because this guy needs to be onApril show.
I learned so much on an hour anda half flight from from Mr
Walker, but those are the kindof things that are golden to be
able to teach folks.
I mean, everybody fusses andcomplains and gripes about
(19:59):
what's happened at the border,and rightly so.
It's the number one issue inAmerica.
Catherine and I were down therefairly recently.
We've been watching what'shappening and through the
derriering gap over the lastcouple of years, through our
friend Michael yon, and watchingthis whole thing sort of unfold
.
Being able to tell that story inan article is one thing, but,
but when you can bring in, youknow, hundreds of thousands of
(20:23):
articles or hundreds ofthousands of bits of information
to support the story, have theentire research and then get a
guy like like j Walker to toreact to to the enormity of it
all and give you, you know, aperspective from a, you know,
maybe the the greatestprofessional in in that space,
(20:44):
in the legal side ever inAmerica.
It's like, ok, that's what weneed to be doing.
We need to be educating.
I might not agree witheverything that the JD Walker
says.
In fact, I think he and I sortof explored a couple areas where
we don't agree on a lot ofthings.
But that's OK.
Right, let's tell the truth,let's get it all out there,
let's get the experts to explainit, let's gather all the data.
(21:06):
Let's look at what happened inEllis Island and everything in
between now and then.
What happened during the Trumpadministration?
What happened during the Bidenadministration?
Who's doing what?
We've learned everything fromthe Bush wall.
People even remember that therewas a Bush wall.
There was a Bush wall built.
It was about 20 feet tall andpeople could literally scale it.
There was really no way to keepthem On one side of the wall
(21:29):
because of the way the wall wasbuilt.
Not only was the Trump wallgenius because it's 30 feet tall
.
That's a whole different deal.
Being off the ground 20 feet,being off the ground 30 feet is
a whole different deal, but theway that they covered the top
part with sort of a solid steel,almost a barrier on both sides.
So you know you couldn't justthrow a rope over, tie it on,
(21:50):
play yourself up, let yourselfdown, you're good to go.
You got to figure out how toget past that last five feet
where you know you get to thetop and you got five more feet
of steel to before you can eventry to get over the top.
And you think about all thosethings and people talk a lot
about the tunnels and all thedifferent stuff.
The this is the reason thatopening needs to exist.
(22:14):
It's the reason that your showneeds to exist, because people
need to understand this and youknow in the media misleads in so
many ways, sometimes notpurposefully, many times
purposefully.
But to have all of the data outthere and then just look, if
you don't believe us here it is,go, knock yourself out and you
(22:35):
read it for yourself.
And that that's what excites me.
It always has from the verybeginning that you know, let
truth prevail.
Whether it can't be my truth,it can't be your truth, april,
it has to be the truth andthat's why we're excited about
opening.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, it's going to be a great partnership, and so
we're so.
We're so honored and thankfulfor each one of you that are
excited about the show.
We're going to need your helpgetting the word out about it
too.
So thank you for all of you fortuning in today to this and to
hearing my story, and I lookforward to serving you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Jump on open dot I N K and sign up and we'll send you
all the notices.
I think we're going to getApril all squared away on on at
least rumble YouTube possiblylocals Not sure where all we're
going just yet.
We'll definitely put put thisthrough the normal podcast
channels and guys, thank youagain so much for everything you
(23:37):
do, all of your support forPatriot games.
In advance.
I'll thank you for supportingApril and supporting open Inc
and we look forward to April.
I cannot wait to see your show.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Thanks, greg.
It was a pleasure to be heretoday.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Thanks so much, everybody.
Thanks for joining us onPatriot Games, looking forward
to the launch of open Inc.
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You've been listening to Patriot Games.
Privacy is a thing of the past.
No matter where you are, you'rebeing watched.
No one is off the grid.
The intelligence community hasaccess to technology that most
Americans can't even imagine,and this show is here to expose
(24:18):
all of it.
For more info, to contact andto stay up to date, visit the
website at PatriotGamescom.
Until next time, keep your eyesopen.
No matter where you are, you are being watched.
In today's world, no one is offthe grid.
Existing in the modern worldhas been forever changed.
What's out there?
Most people don't want to know,but you are about to get clued
(00:26):
in.
This is Patriot Games.
We'll explore differentintelligence techniques,
spycraft and the latestcutting-edge technology that
will blow your mind.
We'll introduce you to proswho've spent careers in the
(00:46):
Intel community With incrediblestories.
We'll expose it all.
Welcome to Patriot Games.
And now your host, gregPhillips.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hey everybody, it's Greg Phillips.
Welcome back to Patriot Games.
We have a special show today,Super excited about this.
All of you know that we've beeninvolved with our opening
project for a number of yearsand have stumbled and bumbled
our ways through it.
I think I started it in 2016 asa wiki.
It's made its way now to.
(01:32):
We had a beta version that welaunched last year that we took
it down and we put it back upand we took it back down and we
started launching specialcollections and have recently
redone our search capability.
But the most important thingand the item about which we are
most excited, Catherine and Iwant to introduce you to the new
(01:55):
voice of OpenInc April Moss.
April, welcome to Patriot Games.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, greg, it's such an honor to be here with you
today and I'm really excitedabout the great content that
we're going to be able toprovide to people through the
OpenInc podcast show.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, it's so exciting for me and, as I said a
minute ago, it's hard for me tostomach or swallow the idea
that I've been messing aroundwith this since 2016 and have it
quite pushed it over the edge.
But I sort of feel like this isreally a kickoff, even though
we've had the site out there forquite a while.
We've had millions of viewersand thanks to all of you that
(02:35):
have been to the site and signedup and for those of you that
haven't signed up, openinc, youcan go in, sign up and we'll
send out newsletters and allthat kind of stuff.
But the most important thingthat we have is April in the
show.
We have hundreds and hundredsof thousands of documents in
OpenInc.
As you know, many of you haveseen some of our special
(02:57):
collections.
We did one on John G Trump,president Trump's uncle.
We did another one on the stateof Georgia that we've just
recently talked about a littlebit.
You can go see those onOpenIncslash, jgt for Trump and
Georgia, for the Georgia one,and then we have a whole bunch
of J6 stuff and we're going tobe cranking out a bunch of new
(03:21):
special collections.
But again, putting a voice to itis so important in April and
can you give everybody justmaybe a little bit about your
background and how you not onlyhow you got here, but I think
people be interested to hearyour story.
It's really pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, for those that don't know who I am, I am a
meteorologist and a journalist,and I worked for CBS in Detroit
for nearly a decade beforeblowing the whistle on my local
television station during liveTV, during my weather forecast,
because they were lying to thepeople, because of the
propaganda that was being pumpedup and I didn't want to be part
(04:07):
of it anymore.
But, more importantly, I wantedthe public to know that they
were not to be trusted.
And I come at this from aperspective of I'm a Christ
follower.
I have four wonderful sons thatI'm trying to raise along with
my husband.
We've been married happily fornearly 19 years and my
(04:30):
congratulations, thanks forlistening.
Thank you, and my whole goal inlife is to raise godly young men
.
Well, you can't do that ifyou're raising them up and
they're believing that what's onthe television is truth when
it's lies.
And so I um, you know, prayedabout what to do.
(04:50):
My husband had my back and hesaid you got to do this, and
together, as a family, we madethe decision that I was going to
walk away from, uh, my careeras a meteorologist.
My life could have been a loteasier had I just stayed silent,
but I didn't want to, and I'mso honored and humbled to be
able to now devote my life todoing things that matter and
(05:13):
helping to raise awareness ofthe things that we need to know
about, and that's why I'm soexcited that, uh, greg, that you
had this vision for the show,because we're going to be able
to give people real, solidinformation that they can share
with friends and family so thatthey can make educated decisions
.
You know, the Bible says mypeople perish for lack of
(05:35):
knowledge.
Well, we are going to be aknowledge storehouse with open
ink and with the opening podcast, and I can't wait to bring you
in depth uh interviews,conversations.
Uh, we've got the documentationto back up everything that we're
going to be talking about, andwe really have a broader vision,
too, that this show will besomething that parents will want
(05:57):
to even have their, theirteenagers, uh, listen to as as
part of their curriculum forhomeschool, and this is going to
be a resource that people allacross the country and world
will want to come to to say well, listen, what the mainstream
media is saying about this, youknow, isn't true, and when I
even do a Google search, I'm notsure if those answers are true.
(06:19):
So where do I go to get truth?
Well, you go to openink andwe're going to have all of the
collections compiled.
We're going to have more andmore projects, uh, and documents
and data continually upload itfor you and your families to be
able to use, and you can trustthat it's not going to be
changed or altered by AI, umthat this is going to be a
(06:44):
wealth of information on prettymuch any topic.
So right now, uh, we're excitedto bring you, um a series that
we're going to talk about, andwe're hoping to launch this in
the next couple of weeks andwe'll have all of the
information on how you canaccess the show and, um, we'd
love to help you, uh, be able tostay educated and keep your
(07:08):
family informed on the importanttopics that the mainstream
media won't tell you about youknow, april, it really resonates
with me.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Um, in part because of the John G Trump collection.
Uh, we started this.
We had five or six, um, some ofthem were volunteers, some of
them were were helping us, um,um, just trying to try to get a
a one of the first bigcollections going.
While we were working on theJohn Trump one, the whole thing
came up with Connick.
We went to jail and, uh, wedecided, um, the day before our
(07:39):
discovery was due to the otherside, uh, we decided just to
take.
We had nothing to hide.
We decided to take everythingin our discovery for the Connick
case and put it out into openInc.
So you can go to openinc, slashConnick and see everything that
we were going to give to thejudge and going to give to the
court, uh, relative to ourdiscovery, uh, or to their
(08:02):
discovery of of us.
And we dumped it in there.
In like two days later theydropped the case and and, um,
you know we thought, well, gosh,that was, that was pretty, that
was pretty cool.
Then we started sort ofconglomerating or or
accumulating, gathering all ofthe information that had been
accumulated by some of theresearchers on John Trump.
(08:24):
And as I began to look throughit again.
I'm like this is unbelievable.
And then we find his ward diary.
What was really fascinatingabout the war diary?
And we, I had no idea, didn'tsee this anywhere, didn't even
see, didn't even see it reallycoming.
But he was the longest-tenuredprofessor at MIT.
Um, he was heavily involved inin radar, the radar solutions
(08:45):
that ended up helping us winWorld War Two, and the
consequence of that is that hespent a lot of his time in World
War Two in the UK, in GreatBritain.
And so I'm looking through thisthing and I'm I'm thinking, man
, this is an amazing war diary,I mean, and he had been
meticulous and you know, I wentto, you know I presented in
(09:07):
front of the queen today and Idid this and I did that.
I'm like this is, this is crazy.
Then I found out that there isanother war diary over in the UK
, in Oxford, that one of theresearchers found and we paid
for it, ordered it, had it sentover, and it was like 130 pages
different than the one that wasin MIT.
(09:28):
Begging the question then, well, my goodness, what was in that
130 pages that they didn't want,that they didn't want out there
, and it was just.
It was just a really funadventure.
We had the the great fortune ofof being able to present it to
President Trump at a bigpolitical event in Alabama and
and and he was just so graciousand not just just his, his
(09:52):
praise for Open Inc and what wehad done, but really for helping
America and helping othersaround the world really
understand just who John G Trumpreally was.
This guy was.
He was one of the greatestphysicists of our time.
As I said, he was, he was.
He was instrumental in the warin Europe, in World War II, and
(10:15):
just stories about the family,and pictures and young.
An interesting piece is onepicture of John Trump as a young
man looks so much like BarronTrump, president Trump's son,
that putting them side by sideis like eerie.
It's like whoa.
(10:35):
That is crazy.
So it's so much fun to seethose kinds of things.
You don't see it all on onGoogle or any of the other major
search engines, and so think welike to think of it as is kind
of a giant curated search enginethat we're going to go through
and do research on.
But, as you said, there's somany topics and so many things
(10:55):
we could delve into.
One of the reasons we'reexcited about having you is your
expertise and knowledge aroundthe vaccines and all the things
that are going to come out ofthat.
We hope to see a lot of reallyinteresting stuff there and,
like you said, I mean havingkids be involved in it, and my
(11:16):
poor grandson and his sisterhave to spend a lot of time
listening to their papa, youknow kind of babble on about
this kind of stuff.
But, april, this is like whatit's all about, right?
I mean we feel like we're sortof preserving history for these
kids.
You know the real truth ratherthan some bogus truth about
(11:39):
America's past, and I just can'twait.
I mean I look forward tohearing your show and seeing you
and what do you think you know?
What do you?
What do you think the future ofopening looks like?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, well, I think it's, first of all, very bright
and I can imagine that, as wecontinue to sell the alarm of
the importance of making surethat we're preserving documents
that don't get manipulated by AI, we've already many of the
viewers right here on the show.
They know that the agenda is tochange the Bible.
(12:15):
We have a version of the Biblealready on openinc and I just
want to say it's reallyimportant that everyone
understands it's openinc, notopeninc.
So openinc and this is going tobe a place where we're going to
continue to keep searching andscraping for the real, authentic
(12:36):
documents through FOIA requestsand many other, you know,
researchers coming alongside andhelping us get this information
.
But we'd love to hear from youtoo.
If there's a topic that you goon to openinc and you say, hey,
you don't have anything aboutthis yet.
We'd love to hear that.
So please give us that feedbackand that'll give us, you know,
(12:58):
a good goal point to set for.
We are going to be talking aboutcentral bank digital currencies
coming up.
We're going to be providing allof the information on that.
We're going to have specialguests join the show who are
experts in that field.
We have NSA documents that arejust amazing.
(13:19):
They're phenomenal.
I spent some time on thewebsite yesterday looking
through the different NSAdocuments.
We're going to be kind ofdissecting some of those things
and saying, hey, did you guyseven know that this happened or
what about this?
And it's just interestinginformation, Certainly something
that could be as part of ahistory curriculum and even just
(13:42):
for the general public, who hasno idea the technologies that
the military has had for decades.
We're going to be delving intosome of that stuff Because I
know that the average person ifthey're not military minor they
don't have a militaryintelligence backgrounds they
have no idea that the militaryhas had certain technologies for
a long time.
We actually have the evidenceof these things in openinc.
(14:06):
It's just very fascinating togo through and read up on some
of those things.
But we're going to be our job isgoing to be going in and
finding the most compellinginformation, bringing it to the
forefront for you to make iteasy, but then also encouraging
you hey, if you want to godeeper, you want to dig deeper,
(14:27):
go ahead.
Head over to the website,create a free account.
We always want to make thisfree for everyone, but, yeah,
we'd love to have your support.
So I'm excited about launchingthis.
We'll have it up and running inthe next couple of weeks and
I'm really honored to partner,Greg, with you and Catherine in
(14:48):
this endeavor.
And I just I remember beingthere in Arizona with you guys
at the pit when you werepresenting all of this
information on the Konex story,and it was palpable the
seriousness of the situation andalso the dire need for a
platform like openinc to be ableto provide transparency to the
(15:10):
public so important.
When we have sunlight andtransparency on things, then
those that want to deceive arenot able to do so.
So kudos to you and Catherinefor having that courage,
conviction, and you know youguys are bright, shining lights
(15:31):
right now in a very dark world.
So I'm honored to partner withyou in this endeavor.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, thanks, april, we, you know, one of the visions
that that Catherine had andshe's really been been a real
driver on is training people andgetting a building more and
more researchers.
There are, you know, all sortsof different techniques for
scraping.
You know you've got to do itethically, you've got to do it
legally, sometimes spending themwith CITRE in and and and.
(16:00):
We're going to install alearning management system so
that we can train people how todo certain advanced techniques
and research, maybe invite someof our better researchers in to
to teach one or two of theclasses.
We're looking forward to that.
We're developing a think of itas kind of a chat room that
(16:22):
diggers will be able to ifthey're digging on John Trump or
Connick or whatever else.
It is, being able to createtheir own room and share
information and share chat.
We're going to be uploadingthat here in the next month or
so and really just look forwardto this being a community of
researchers, a community ofjournalists, a community of
(16:43):
really anyone who wants to comein and really know and
understand.
And I love the idea, april, ofpeople contributing their own
ideas to this.
That's, that's genius.
So I mean, even in this chatroom, if you have an idea for
something you'd like to look at,put it in the chat, send it to
grace at open dot Inc.
And we'll forward it along toto our team and start looking
(17:06):
through it.
And then, as April begins toroll this out the chat in her
show, if you come up with anidea while she's talking, just
note it in there.
I mean, if there's something wemissed, if there's something
that you think would be a betterapproach, let's put it in there
.
Maybe we can get you involved,maybe we can, you know, maybe we
can let you kind of take thelead on some of the research.
So really, nothing's off thetable.
(17:27):
It's all about transparency.
It's all about, you know, westarted this because of open
records and we wanted a place tobe able to put open records,
whether they be from the courtsor wherever.
I had been provided, back in2016, a database of of non
citizens in the United Statesand, man, I mean we announced
(17:52):
that we were going to, you know,release this list and
everything in the world happened.
I mean it went.
I mean everything blew up andwent crazy.
But I think back to that andI'm like that was really him.
Handed on my part.
What would have been reallycool is to do some research on
this, and I've now learned thatmore non citizens will come
(18:14):
across the border during theBiden administration than the
than the entire time that EllisIsland was open, and come in and
learn about those things andreally try to understand them.
There's a huge misunderstandingout there about how many non
citizens are, even in America.
There was a Pew report doneback in early 2000s 2001.
(18:35):
, and it said there wereapproximately 9 million.
The media has talked about thatas though it's still a fact
since 2001.
It wasn't a 2000.
It wasn't a fact in 2001.
It wasn't a fact in 2016 when Iblew it up again, and it's not
a fact now.
It's probably closer to 45 or50 million by now.
(18:55):
But being able to tell thatstory, and tell it in the
context of Ellis Island and ofthe history of immigration into
America Last night I was.
I was thinking about you, april.
I was on a.
I was on a plane coming back toAlabama and sat next to a guy.
I was like I'm going to pullout his cards, I don't mess it
up.
His name is JD Walker.
(19:17):
Mr Walker is is maybe thepremier immigration lawyer in
America and of course he handleslegal immigration and so he,
you know, kind of looks at it ina whole different way than I do
, and I had this incrediblyinteresting conversation about
the difference between illegalimmigration and legal
(19:38):
immigration and and it was, itwas just fascinating.
So, you know, I was thinking,you know I need to call April
because this guy needs to be onApril show.
I learned so much on an hour anda half flight from from Mr
Walker, but those are the kindof things that are golden to be
able to teach folks.
I mean, everybody fusses andcomplains and gripes about
(19:59):
what's happened at the border,and rightly so.
It's the number one issue inAmerica.
Catherine and I were down therefairly recently.
We've been watching what'shappening and through the
derriering gap over the lastcouple of years, through our
friend Michael yon, and watchingthis whole thing sort of unfold
.
Being able to tell that story inan article is one thing, but,
but when you can bring in, youknow, hundreds of thousands of
(20:23):
articles or hundreds ofthousands of bits of information
to support the story, have theentire research and then get a
guy like like j Walker to toreact to to the enormity of it
all and give you, you know, aperspective from a, you know,
maybe the the greatestprofessional in in that space,
(20:44):
in the legal side ever inAmerica.
It's like, ok, that's what weneed to be doing.
We need to be educating.
I might not agree witheverything that the JD Walker
says.
In fact, I think he and I sortof explored a couple areas where
we don't agree on a lot ofthings.
But that's OK.
Right, let's tell the truth,let's get it all out there,
let's get the experts to explainit, let's gather all the data.
(21:06):
Let's look at what happened inEllis Island and everything in
between now and then.
What happened during the Trumpadministration?
What happened during the Bidenadministration?
Who's doing what?
We've learned everything fromthe Bush wall.
People even remember that therewas a Bush wall.
There was a Bush wall built.
It was about 20 feet tall andpeople could literally scale it.
There was really no way to keepthem On one side of the wall
(21:29):
because of the way the wall wasbuilt.
Not only was the Trump wallgenius because it's 30 feet tall
.
That's a whole different deal.
Being off the ground 20 feet,being off the ground 30 feet is
a whole different deal, but theway that they covered the top
part with sort of a solid steel,almost a barrier on both sides.
So you know you couldn't justthrow a rope over, tie it on,
(21:50):
play yourself up, let yourselfdown, you're good to go.
You got to figure out how toget past that last five feet
where you know you get to thetop and you got five more feet
of steel to before you can eventry to get over the top.
And you think about all thosethings and people talk a lot
about the tunnels and all thedifferent stuff.
The this is the reason thatopening needs to exist.
(22:14):
It's the reason that your showneeds to exist, because people
need to understand this and youknow in the media misleads in so
many ways, sometimes notpurposefully, many times
purposefully.
But to have all of the data outthere and then just look, if
you don't believe us here it is,go, knock yourself out and you
(22:35):
read it for yourself.
And that that's what excites me.
It always has from the verybeginning that you know, let
truth prevail.
Whether it can't be my truth,it can't be your truth, april,
it has to be the truth andthat's why we're excited about
opening.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, it's going to be a great partnership, and so
we're so.
We're so honored and thankfulfor each one of you that are
excited about the show.
We're going to need your helpgetting the word out about it
too.
So thank you for all of you fortuning in today to this and to
hearing my story, and I lookforward to serving you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Jump on open dot I N K and sign up and we'll send you
all the notices.
I think we're going to getApril all squared away on on at
least rumble YouTube possiblylocals Not sure where all we're
going just yet.
We'll definitely put put thisthrough the normal podcast
channels and guys, thank youagain so much for everything you
(23:37):
do, all of your support forPatriot games.
In advance.
I'll thank you for supportingApril and supporting open Inc
and we look forward to April.
I cannot wait to see your show.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Thanks, greg.
It was a pleasure to be heretoday.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Thanks so much, everybody.
Thanks for joining us onPatriot Games, looking forward
to the launch of open Inc.
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You've been listening to Patriot Games.
Privacy is a thing of the past.
No matter where you are, you'rebeing watched.
No one is off the grid.
The intelligence community hasaccess to technology that most
Americans can't even imagine,and this show is here to expose
(24:18):
all of it.
For more info, to contact andto stay up to date, visit the
website at PatriotGamescom.
Until next time, keep your eyesopen.
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