Ever wondered what happens when you mix a heatwave, first-time callers, and pure comedic gold? On this episode of Pat's Peeps Podcast, we reminisce about the value of engaging with our radio audience on the Pat Walsh Show while basking in the comedic brilliance of National Lampoon. With hilarious selections featuring Chevy Chase, John Belushi, Bill Murray, Christopher Guest, and Gilda Radner, this episode offers a nostalgic escape from the sweltering Northern California sun and the usual political chatter.
Get ready for a laugh-out-loud discussion as we dive into exaggerated stories about celebrities like Dick Butkus and Jerry Garcia. We reflect on the influence of 70s comedy, especially the iconic National Lampoon, and share a sidesplitting mock interview with Bill Murray playing a quirky bass player and Christopher Guest as the ever-charming Mr. Rogers. Their humorous exchange about musicianship and early morning routines is sure to keep you smiling.
In a special segment, we explore my rare 45 collection with a surprising find—two records in one sleeve! Recalling a memorable moment with the band War, we discuss their hit "Slippin' Into Darkness" and their unique sound. Plus, we compare "Funky Nassau Part 1" and "Funky Nassau Part 2," noting the James Brown influence and unexpected interruptions that add an extra layer to the listening experience. Tune in, stay cool, and join us for more music and memories on our next episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
yeah, buddy, we are back.
It is the pats peeps podcast.
We didn't go anywhere, justneeded a respite.
I think I was losing my voice.
Yesterday I was exhausted.
Being straight up, honest withyou.
So today being a Wednesday, I'mfeeling way better, more energy
(00:31):
.
Thanks for always checking onthe latest peep here at the
Pat's Peeps podcast.
Again Wednesday, july the 24th2024.
I'm staring out my studiowindow under the beautiful
foothills of Northern California.
It's hot again, I'm telling you.
It's like 106.
Like 106 yesterday.
I think that's going to beagain today.
(00:51):
So we're in the midst of a heatwave and I want to say thank
you to Tony, the Tiger Lopez,the champion, for coming into my
show last night.
In case you don't know, I'm thehost of the Pat Wall Show.
It's heard on the iHeartRadioapp, nationally and
internationally and, of course,locally in Sacramento on KPK
(01:11):
Radio.
This is an extension of thatCompletely different thing, but
I love when you tune into myshow.
We got so many first-timecallers last night.
That's a big deal in a radioshow.
First of all, when people calland it's a nighttime show, you
know people can be at homewatching television.
How exciting is that with allthe wonderful things on TV now
(01:36):
you have so many options andsomehow people you know we get
so many people listening to theshow and to get first, first
time callers.
That's pretty astounding, andso thank you very much for
calling my radio show and ifyou're new to the podcast, if
this is the first time you'vechecked it out, I hope you enjoy
it.
We just kind of.
(01:56):
We are just kind of we talkabout random stuff, just like we
do on my show, and please tella friend if you do like it.
So today is going to be alittle bit different.
I always try to do something alittle bit different.
So today, along with the 45that I'm going to play at the
end, like I always do, tell youabout some music that I've had
sitting on my shelf for decades,today's a really funky one.
(02:19):
It was very unusual and I'lltell you why, but I don't know
about you.
I kind of felt last night doingmy radio show like I needed a
break from politics.
You know my radio show is not apolitical show.
It's exactly the same as this,my podcast, but both of them
(02:42):
lately have taken on a politicaltone because we can't ignore it
.
But not today.
I feel the pulse of theaudience.
It seems like I can tell kindof where we all are Like, okay,
we've heard about this, you know, we've listened to this, not
just not from me, but fromeveryone.
(03:03):
Really, even amongst themselvesit's like, yeah, okay, all
right, here we go.
Can we get to something else?
And I really felt that lastnight.
So, even though there was theresignation of Kimberly Cheadle
from the Secret Service and wetalked about that at length on
our previous podcast here at thePat's Peeps, I just mentioned
it last night because we need tolighten the mood, which is
(03:27):
exactly precisely where I'mgoing today.
So, if you don't mind, againI'm going to do something a
little bit different Now.
I told you I had this box setfrom National Lampoon.
I'm also a big fan of NationalLampoon.
This box set is CDs.
It's a collection of theiroriginal albums on CD put out in
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the 90s, probably the 80s and90s.
Excuse me and anyhow, but waybefore that I was a fan of the
National Lampoon Chevy Chase,christopher Guest, john Belushi,
bill Murray, brian Doyle Murray.
There was, I mean, you know,gilda Radner, Lorraine Newman so
(04:13):
many great original Saturdaynight live voices that were part
of the National Lampoon, and Imentioned.
There's things back then thatthey would do that were
hilarious and they were with thetimes and they were satire.
I already did that spiel, soI'm not going to go back into it
, but as I got to thinking aboutit I thought, well, why not
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play some of that stuff, lightenthe mood and play some of this
stuff.
So the first thing I'd like todo is just kind of introduce you
, because I cannot assume thateveryone knows even who I'm
talking about when I talk aboutthe National Lampoon.
Hopefully you've heard of thepeople I just mentioned, those
big celebrities, big stars.
(04:56):
Some of them are still with us,others not.
But these guys, the NationalLampoon, but these guys, the
National Lampoon.
Originally it was a humormagazine from 1970 to 1998.
(05:19):
And the spinoffs that they didon audio because I'm an audio
guy these were related to themagazine, they were related to
the Times, they were related tothe times.
Everything on this was veryacceptable.
I have things on here right now.
I know if I played it for youyou'd be like what, because it's
a different time Back then.
They'd be like this is making agreat point in a satirical way.
(05:40):
That's what I'm a fan of.
I want to play three selectionstoday of the National Lampoon.
I collected National Lampoonalbums way before this box set
ever came out.
By the way, the name of the boxset speaking of satire, and you
(06:04):
can't say that the name of thislike 40 cd set, it was a three
or four cd set is buy this boxor we'll shoot this dog.
It's got a gun, a revolver onthe front, a dog, a dog's face,
looking over the gun like whoagod, please buy this, but you
believe it or not even thoughnow you go oh, that's awful.
(06:26):
There was a time where they'remaking a point.
They literally have an albumcalled.
That's Not Funny, that's Sick.
They've got a frog I mentionedthis last time coming out of the
kitchen.
He's got no legs and he's on alittle board scooting along on
his hands at a restaurant andabove him in the kitchen.
Above the kitchen it says froglegs.
(06:48):
Come on, it's funny.
It was funny then, and I reallyalways enjoy these guys.
So again I thought I'd bringsome of these to you.
Now I'm going to play one foryou, that is, and I'm not going
(07:09):
to censor this, I am not goingto censor this.
I am not going to censor this.
I'm going to play this exactlyas it was when it came out on
the record.
If I play this on radio,obviously I would have to bleep
it out, but here on my podcast,no, this is original material,
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as done by National Lampoon.
All right, here we go.
All right.
By the way, this is from thealbum.
Okay, so the album cover.
It's got a frog rolling out ofthe door of the kitchen at a
restaurant.
It's got a frog rolling out ofthe door of the kitchen at a
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restaurant Next to that.
It says try our frog legs.
And it's got a man and hiswife's looking down.
They're holding a menu at atable.
She's looking down at the frogand the frog's looking up at her
.
But here you go, strap in onfor this one.
Here you go.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This is called Pulp from that album by National
Lampoon.
Here, honey, try this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Mmm.
Looks like our regularorange-colored frozen substitute
for artificial morningbreakfast beverage with
pulp-like particles added Wronghoney, but look pulp-like
substances.
Just like the concentrate thattastes almost like fresh but
doesn't cost.
Like the concentrate thattastes almost like fresh.
You mean this natural-tastingmorning breakfast beverage with
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a flavor almost like freshsqueezed, that tastes better
than frozen and better thanthose reconstituted substitutes
for artificial morning breakfastdrink is actually pennies less
preserving than thoseconcentrates that taste almost
like fresh and have pope-likesubstances.
Wrong again honey.
Wrong again honey.
(09:07):
Wrong again honey.
Why the fuck did you stopsaying wrong again honey and
throw this fucking stuff in thetoilet and get out there and get
me some fucking orange juice?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Vintage National Lampoon.
I'm going to continue on withthis Unedited.
Unedited.
Here we are.
This is john belushi and thecrew.
This is called the nationallampoon radio.
This is interview with thehollywood gay alliance good
evening.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Uh, this is john belushi, and this is the
national lampoon radio hour.
Today, we're going to beinterviewing three of the
greatest superstars Hollywood'sever produced.
You're too kind, why don't youintroduce yourselves?
Hi, chuck.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Oh no, go ahead, chuck, chuckBronson.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Clint Eastwood.
John, Delighted to be here,Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Chuck Bronson, you are so coy, dear.
I'm Lee Marvin Hi and LeeMarvin Louie.
They're here today, today, totalk to you about something
that's been on their mind foryears, and they're they're,
they're coming out with it here.
For the first time, they haveformed a group called the
Hollywood Alliance.
What did I get that wrong?
Gay alliance, gay alliance.
(10:22):
Now, I can't believe that you,gentlemen, are really gay.
I mean, charles Bronson, howcould you be gay?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I'm an actor, if I may speak for Chuck, who are
kind of the finest actors in thebusiness, clint Eastwood.
Yes, gay, he's an actor.
He's an actor, if I may speakfor Chuck, who is one of the
finest actors in the business,clint Eastwood.
Yes, yes, chuck's an actor andwhat he does and what he's been
doing is a wonderful act.
Oh, you're beautiful, but it'stime to be real, isn't it Chuck?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Excuse me, it's time to knock the closet doors down.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's the Hollywood Superstar Gay Alliance, John,
and we have been thinking aboutthis for years, and it's an
organization that we've startedrecently, I would say in the
last nine months.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It just seems amazing to me.
Here you are, charles Bronson,mr Macho of the Screen, how
could you be gay?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
In the first place.
You're presuming right off thebean that because I'm gay, I
can't be macho.
And this is a fallacy, a myth.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's also a myth, if I may break in, to assume that
what we are on the screen iswhat we are off the screen and
we're not.
We're actors doing an honestday's work.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think the assumption is that if you're gay
, you're bad.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean it's wrong.
And I think our biggest problem, if I may, lee, is convincing
some of our peers to come outwith us.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It's amazing what other people in Hollywood are
gay.
I know you hear rumors.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Who isn't John?
Let's put it that way no?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I think that's really stepping over the line.
There are many heterosexuals inLos Angeles County.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Name one sweetheart, Rod McEwen, For instance.
Who are these Rod McEwen?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Let's uh, rod mckeown .
Well, for instance, who are youjust get out in the open?
This girl's heels are worn downwith to a frazzle.
Just number one who I live with, jimmy pierce, say rod mckeown
for two years, and I'm saying itnow, lee.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
That's a real shock.
That's a real shock.
No shock to me, lee.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It's no shock to me either there are a lot of little
girls.
What did lee say?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
lee, that's a real shock.
That's a real shock, that's areal shock.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I interrupted him when he said this girl's heels
are worn down with the frazzle.
Just to number one, I livedwith Jimmy Pearsall for two
years and I'm saying it now.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Lee, that's a real shock.
That's a real shock.
No shock to me, Lee.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
It's no shock to me either.
There are a lot of little girlson the set coming up now who
just can't, who just can't stepforward like we can, and we're
so happy to be able to help themout.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Uh, like who?
Just Ken Howard, for instance.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Ken Howard.
Right, ken came up to me he wasshooting that dreadful series
whatever that was called aboutthe two, uh, solicitors,
whatever they're called.
Ken came up to me crying hereyes out, said where do I go?
Who's going to take me?
And I just held him and saidit'll be all right.
And it was, it was.
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I mean, the show flopped,didn't it?
Did they pick it up?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
It's that kind of compassion that Lee, for
instance, has, and Clint hereand Paul Newman, who's been
doing a tremendous amount ofwork for us.
Paul Newman is gay, Of course.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I don't believe that for a minute.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, go down to headquarters and ask him.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
By the way, I don't have the rights to this.
Okay, I'm just educating theaudience.
Come on now.
National Lampoon.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm telling you, he's right there, he's typing right
now.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Well, I know you've made movies with a lot of actors
.
There was a movie called theMagnificent Seven.
It had Yul Brynner and YulBrynner you had.
James Colburn, eli Wallach.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Now they weren't.
Everybody in the film was gay,and I think that's how it worked
, except for Horst.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
They called that the summer of sin.
When they made that movie andwe were, so Horst Buchholz was
the only one in that movie whowasn't gay, charles Bronson.
Now you made a movie, the GreatEscape.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
May I just ask where you got that belt, John?
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's not fair.
You should describe it.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
The buckle sort of looks like a snake.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I got a leather store on 10th Street somewhere.
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
By the way, that Great Escape right is the
motorcycle in that right.
Isn't that the Great Escape?
The motorcycle in that Samemotorcycle Fonzie rode in Happy
Days.
The very exact same motorcycle.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Anyway, um.
The Great Escape, the GreatEscape you made that film with a
number of James Garner.
You made it with Steve McQueen,Steve.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'll never forget you and Steve McQueen on that cart
when you were stuck.
You'll never forget.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I think that's why I really got to know Steve.
Well, steve came out just afterthat.
No, you see Steve's, anothersmall man.
He's not gay now is he Well,but Steve is gay, you see he is.
There are some small men whoare gay, oh yeah.
I'm sure you'd like to knowabout a lot of people who are
gay and, of course, we're nothere to spread the word on
people who are gay.
People who are gay and whodon't want other people to know
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about it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It's not a gossip, that's their business.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
But we are here to say that we're gay and we are
the head of a rather largeorganization now of gay people
who are proud to be gay.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If we told you right now who people were, I mean who,
for instance?
Walter Cronkite?
Walter Cronkite is gay.
Casey Stangle, casey Stangle.
I can't believe you, the olddog, you know she has the
biggest collection of tiarasI've ever seen, really, for
instance, there are people thatyou just wouldn't expect.
You know couples.
I mean people that don't knowabout couples, for instance
Linus Pauling, and guess who?
(15:31):
Just try to match them, drSpock, dr.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Spock, but you know.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's not important who's gay or?
Who isn't gay.
What's important to us is that.
That's how gay they are.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
No, you're making a joke of this.
Is this a serious organizationor?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
There's a lot of other gay groups.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
He is always making jokes he's always a little bit
out of touch this girl is theboozer and she's not ashamed of
it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Bottle of wild turkey , and I'm happy now what about?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
are there any sports people that are gay?
Nitschke.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I went out with Nitschke for two summers.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Karim Abdul-Jabbar, who used to be known as Luau
Cinder, is gay, oh boy.
Everybody knows that, of course.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
That's amazing.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
When he swims it's a sight to behold.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Now, you can't tell me a guy like Dick.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Butkus is gay.
Dick Butkus is gay.
You've never seen Dick Butkusin a muumuu Incredibly gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
What about some rock stars?
Jerry Garcia's?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Jerry Garcia's gig.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
This is incredible.
What about the?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Beach Boys, all of them.
They've been going steady foryears.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
They're going together.
Bobby Rydell, what about DrStillman?
Dr Stillman's gig, but thewhole point of she certainly is.
I'm sorry, jay Silverheels oncesaid to me silver heels when
said to me oh God, okay, Onemore.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got one more.
It's another one of myfavorites.
This is the National Lampoon,this one here.
I actually got a little bit ofair time on FM radio back in the
70s.
This is.
I was so influenced by that eraand the fact that they would
play stuff like this.
(17:23):
It really caught my attentionand I still love it.
So this is Bill Murray andChristopher Guest.
Now Christopher Guest isplaying Mr Rogers, the late,
great Mr Rogers.
Bill Murray is playing the bassplayer.
If you've ever heard this, youknow how good this is.
So this is bass player beinginterviewed by none other than
(17:43):
Mr Rogers.
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Hi, we're going to talk about some nice things
today.
Did you know that?
Sure, some special things foryou, some special things for me
too, and we have a special guesthere today.
Can you say that guest, sure?
I knew you could.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
We're gonna talk today to a musician, the guy who
plays the bass.
You know what a bass is, don'tyou?
Can you say that?
Don't Sure you can.
Base is, don't you can you saythat?
Don't sure you can't?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
hello how are you?
You seen you get somebody giveme a cup of coffee or something.
You're not used to getting upearly.
I'm not here yet.
What time do you usually get up?
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I usually get up when the sun is warm, like 1, 30, 2
o'clock in the afternoon I liketo get around 6 30.
That's insane.
You're stupid.
You should sleep late, man.
It's just much easier on yourconstitution.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
We're going to talk about your bass and how big it
is and things like that.
It looks like a violin, butit's bigger, isn't it?
It's a hell of a lot bigger.
Can you say it?
Violin's a little wimpy thing.
Can you say wimpy, wimpy?
That's right, wimpy thing.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I like the way you say that.
Did you know that I do?
Now the hell.
You're easily amused, aren'tyou?
I say wimpy, wompy, wambly.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I know what you mean.
You know something I like whatyour face does when you play.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
It kind of gets all sort of squinched up, yeah
somebody told me once that myface when I play the bass it
looks like some sort of a bigjellyfish or something like that
.
It just keeps moving.
Sure you can never identifywhat the face is.
It's real ugly sometimes andwhen you're aware it looks like
a fruit or something, it justkeeps flashing.
Yeah, it's really rubber orsomething.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Tell me some of the things you think about when
you're playing the images,because, of course, when you're
playing, I thought of thingslike sheep and things like that
little candies, fresh littlecandies and things like that.
Do you think of those thingstoo?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Oh, I basically think about my financial situation.
I count every beat I play,every note I play and I figure
out how many notes I'm givinginto the space.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
You know out in the space for how much I'm getting
paid and I am working cheap Mustbe hard to sort of struggle to
get your band together.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Oh man, especially when you be lifting piano man,
that is the worst.
I worked as a mover for twoyears while I was first getting
a band together, and I've alsomade pizza.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
But now you're playing music, and so the story
sort of has a happy ending,doesn't it?
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Yeah, it's sort of a happy ending.
We just got the share from arecord company that had promised
to pay us a certain amount ofroyalties.
Oh that's too bad.
All sorts of stuff went intopre-production, that's too bad.
They be charging us for stamps.
They say how much is a stamp?
You know?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I'll buy the goddamn stamp.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Sure, I know what you mean.
I'm sure a lot of people outthere would like to know how a
big, strong guy like you playsthe bass so well, gets to be so
strong, what it eats to be likethat.
Can you tell us that?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Can I just interject Egg and muffin?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Well, I eat a lot of garbage food, but I mainly
consist on stuff like sandwichesand tins of tuna chicken
something like that from a chainstore soda.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Do you ever have Egg McMuffin?
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Sometimes Dad or cheese praters.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Can you say Egg, mcmuffin, egg-a-muffin?
Yeah Well, I know what I'd liketo do now.
I'd like to hear you play somebass.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I'd like to do that.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Well, we're going to go to the Magic kingdom.
Oh no, it's too early for me.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I gotta drive oh, that is a classic christopher
guest bill murray NationalLampoon.
I'll play some more of those asI move along in the podcast,
but here at number 119, which,by the way, that's pretty cool
(21:30):
we're all the way up to 119 andwe're picking up listeners all
the time.
I was just looking online andwe're picking up more and more
listeners.
So again, let me just interjectand say thank you for that.
Now I'm going to get to somemusic.
All right, today it was veryinteresting.
I pull a record off of my shelf,as I always do.
I have this Rare 45 collectionand many times, as I've said
(21:55):
before, there are two recordsper sleeve.
Neither one of them have everbeen played and they're in one
sleeve together.
And I've explained thisnumerous times.
But for those of you not heardit, you know you think it's
going to be a hit.
You send it same song bothsides.
If it's a hit, you can play.
One side gets needle burn, youflip it over and if it's still a
hit, you have the other recordto go to.
So anyhow, but today there wastwo records in this sleeve and
(22:19):
they're not the same record.
Now, that's the first time inmy record collection that I've
come across this.
They're usually identical orit's the same song, but maybe it
was.
You know one.
Maybe one record was all stereo, one was all mono, or maybe one
, maybe they were the same oneside stereo, one side mono, what
have you?
Or all side stereo.
(22:42):
Anyhow, this one is twodifferent songs, or two
different records, fourdifferent songs, sort of kind of
.
Let me explain.
And it's one of my very favoritebands.
When I was a kid I loved theseguys.
I still love them and it was anhonor when I was interviewing
(23:02):
them on my radio.
I can't remember who I had onmy radio show from this band,
but they said Pat, you ought tocome out and introduce us
because you really know ourmusic.
And I said you got to bekidding me.
So I got to introduce this bandand I was just blown away.
So this song is a song writtenand performed in 1971 by this
(23:26):
group, produced by JerryGoldstein.
Live version of the song wasfeatured as the B-side to their
74-single Bolero.
Now this song is in very unusualblues form.
This is one of the reasons Ilove this band their harmonica
player.
If I say his name you mightknow it right away.
And there was another harmonicaplayer, magic Dick, that played
(23:48):
in Jay Giles, who were myfavorites at the time.
I'll just tell you the guy'sname in this band, lee Oscar,
who went on to make his ownharmonicas.
So you probably know who I'mtalking about if you know the
band, or Lee Oscar.
And so, anyhow, the song UnusualBlues, with the first lines
being repeated in an African andLatin rhythm.
(24:10):
It is from the perspective ofsomeone whose friend's life was
taken away and so they're tryingto now be a recluse, or, you
know, withdrawing from reality,normal everyday life.
The song on the album was muchlonger.
It was almost seven minuteslong, like 6.59, I think it
(24:33):
clocked in, so they had to cutit down.
For radio there were some longsongs like, well you know,
american Pie and some others,hey Jude, but this one they cut
it down to 3.59, so they shavedthree minutes off of it, which
was fine.
I love the song, but if youlisten to the long version you
can understand why it omits thelower introduction and the
(24:56):
second verse of the song.
But it did very well and I lovedit.
It was just a string of hits bythis band that I loved in the
70s.
It went to number 12 on the USR&B chart.
Number 16 on the US pop chartin 72.
22 weeks on the chart, tied forthe most total weeks inside
that year with the song byGallery oh, it's so nice to be
(25:18):
with you.
Remember that one, featured onthe 71 album All Day Music,
ranked 23 on BillboardMagazine's top 100 singles of 72
.
Canada reached number 13.
It is from the band War andit's a song called Slippin' Into
Darkness.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Slippin' Into Darkness Well, well, well, well,
well, well, well, well.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well,
well, well, well, well, well,well, well, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
(26:11):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,take my mind beyond the trees.
I was slipping into darkness.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, take my mind Beyond the tree, where I talk to
my brother, oh, oh, oh, oh.
(27:09):
Where I talk to my brothers whonever said their name.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I just think they had such a different groove, they
were just unique.
They're still unique.
Hard to explain it in my mindwhat it's like, but I loved it
growing up.
World is a Ghetto Cisco, kid Meand Baby Brother.
I mean just song after song.
(27:40):
So many great ones.
Why Can't we Be Friends whichhad a little bit of a different
sound to it?
Lowrider, of course, theclassic, but I like their
lesser-known songs.
By the way, listen to WarPlatinum double album.
(28:02):
By the way, it's calledPlatinum.
Check it out sometime.
River Niger, four Cornered RoomSlippin' in the darkness.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Pretty soon you're gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And Lee Oscar, lee, oscar, lee, oscar.
The harmonica player just hadsuch a different sound, unique
sound for harmonica.
So you're probably familiarwith that tune.
(28:45):
But let's flip it over theother side again.
You know when I say I likethese deeper songs, like Beatles
on the Bog, which I bought as a45.
I remember that it was the flipside of the Cisco Kid.
Hey, cisco, I love that tune, Ilove that one.
I love Outlaw by.
(29:07):
I love that one, I love Outlawby them by War All day music.
But here's a good deep cutFlipping that record over.
It's a song called Nappy Head.
Here we go, flip side ofSlipping Into Darkness.
Cool, I love it as summertimemusic, for whatever reason it
(29:39):
reminds me of summer.
This is a groovy tune though.
Come on, this is one of myfavorite songs by the band and
it's the B-side to a 45, youknow, oh, I love what he just
(31:03):
said Thank you.
I always thought it would bereally cool to somehow see war
with Cheech and Chong.
I love that, yeah, come on.
I thought, man, how cool wouldthat be to be able to see
somehow a concert with War andCheech and Chong together.
(31:25):
Then one day I pick up anewspaper and what do I see In
front of my very eyes, warplaying with Cheech and Chong.
Went to San Francisco and sawhim on a foggy, dreary day and
it was so absolutely awesome.
You'd have War playing,grooving, and when they would
(31:50):
finish the lights would go downand lights ahead of them would
come on in front of them and itwould be Cheech and Chong
sitting there getting ready todo a skit.
Hey, what you doing, man?
Hey man, you know, I tried tocall you, man, I ain't got no
phone.
Man, I mean, it was awesome.
(32:13):
Then they came out and I'llnever forget he did the encore,
they did the encore, war doesthe encore.
And what do they do?
First, before they startplaying for the encore, cheech
Marin comes out here we are inSan Francisco, comes out a
beautiful white Dodger jersey.
(32:33):
Yeah, buddy, I'm like.
Yeah, baby, because I'm aDodger fan, right?
Yeah, baby, way to represent.
And the crowd starts going booBoo and he starts smiling.
And the crowd starts going booBoo and he starts smiling.
And when he starts smiling theybreak into bum, ba-bum, bum,
they start playing.
Why can't we be friends?
(32:54):
Why can't we be friends?
So he got the Dodger fans, gotall the Giants fans singing.
Why can't we be friends?
Like I said, today there wastwo records in the sleeve.
I was totally surprised by this,and it's not even war, it's
funky NASA.
I'm just going to tell youright up front, because I don't
know anything about these.
(33:14):
Maybe I do.
Anyone know this?
I don't.
Maybe when I put it on, Ihaven't listened to it yet.
Maybe I'll go.
Oh yeah, I know that song, butit's a song written by Ray
Munnings and Tyrone Fitzgerald,performed by the Beginning of
the End, a song recorded inCriteria Studios, miami.
Chuck Kirkpatrick engineeredthe thing, Marlon Productions
(33:38):
produced it and Beginning of theEnd arranged it and it went to
number seven.
So maybe I have heard this andthis is right in my wheelhouse.
71, even though I was a littlelittle kid, I still knew my
music, so maybe I will know this.
This might be one of those onesI haven't heard forever.
Reached number seven on the USR&B chart, 15 on the US
(34:01):
Billboard Hot 100.
This week, july 17th of 71,went to number 31 on the UK
singles charts in 1974.
Featured on the 71 album FunkyNassau, the single reached
number 75 on the Billboardyear-end Hot 100 singles in 1971
(34:22):
.
So let's put the platter on thetable here and let's see what
happens.
One side is this is on a greenlabel Alston label.
By the way, the war record wason United Artist with a stamp
January 20th of 72.
This one here by Funky Nasa hasa stamp on it May let me see,
(34:45):
may 20th of 71.
And it was released March of 71.
So that makes sense All right,but it's part one on the flip,
on the flip side, part two.
Here we go.
Part one, funky NASAassau, part1.
Now we're gonna call our veryown that's all rock and that's
(35:35):
all roll nassau's got a wholelot of soul feel all right.
Mini skirts, maxi skirts andafro hair do I love it, but I
don't?
But I don't know if I rememberthis Mini skirts, maxi skirts,
afro hairdo.
Remember that for sure.
Oh, this is one of those songswhere they let each guy in the
(36:10):
band get their little piece ofthe pie.
Go, get that same groove.
Bob is on the keyboards.
Baby, let it go, bob.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know that kind of song.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
There's the bass.
Listen to the guitar.
Give that soul some tune.
Oh yeah, James Brown-esque,Kind of a James Brown wannabe in
a way.
Huh.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
My cat.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Maceo.
All right, let's see if FunkyNASA Part 2, flip it over here.
See if Funky NASA Part 2 is anydifferent than Funky NASA Part
1.
Iunky Nassau Part 1 must be thehit side.
(37:08):
Let's try Funky Nassau Part 2,see if there's any difference
here we go.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's straight up James Brown, right there.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's straight up James Brown, right there.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right.
Well, that's awesome.
I don't think that's part ofthe song, although it works.
Kind of works with the song.
Forgot the term, I just do notdisturb on.
Goes with the song, though.
Yeah, it's going to do it forus right here.
(38:05):
Pats Peeps 119.
Had a good time.
Hope you did Back for 120.
I can't believe it Tomorrow.
Stay cool, see you on the radio.
See you on the radio.
yeah, buddy, we are back.
It is the pats peeps podcast.
We didn't go anywhere, justneeded a respite.
I think I was losing my voice.
Yesterday I was exhausted.
Being straight up, honest withyou.
So today being a Wednesday, I'mfeeling way better, more energy
(00:31):
.
Thanks for always checking onthe latest peep here at the
Pat's Peeps podcast.
Again Wednesday, july the 24th2024.
I'm staring out my studiowindow under the beautiful
foothills of Northern California.
It's hot again, I'm telling you.
It's like 106.
Like 106 yesterday.
I think that's going to beagain today.
(00:51):
So we're in the midst of a heatwave and I want to say thank
you to Tony, the Tiger Lopez,the champion, for coming into my
show last night.
In case you don't know, I'm thehost of the Pat Wall Show.
It's heard on the iHeartRadioapp, nationally and
internationally and, of course,locally in Sacramento on KPK
(01:11):
Radio.
This is an extension of thatCompletely different thing, but
I love when you tune into myshow.
We got so many first-timecallers last night.
That's a big deal in a radioshow.
First of all, when people calland it's a nighttime show, you
know people can be at homewatching television.
How exciting is that with allthe wonderful things on TV now
(01:36):
you have so many options andsomehow people you know we get
so many people listening to theshow and to get first, first
time callers.
That's pretty astounding, andso thank you very much for
calling my radio show and ifyou're new to the podcast, if
this is the first time you'vechecked it out, I hope you enjoy
it.
We just kind of.
(01:56):
We are just kind of we talkabout random stuff, just like we
do on my show, and please tella friend if you do like it.
So today is going to be alittle bit different.
I always try to do something alittle bit different.
So today, along with the 45that I'm going to play at the
end, like I always do, tell youabout some music that I've had
sitting on my shelf for decades,today's a really funky one.
(02:19):
It was very unusual and I'lltell you why, but I don't know
about you.
I kind of felt last night doingmy radio show like I needed a
break from politics.
You know my radio show is not apolitical show.
It's exactly the same as this,my podcast, but both of them
(02:42):
lately have taken on a politicaltone because we can't ignore it
.
But not today.
I feel the pulse of theaudience.
It seems like I can tell kindof where we all are Like, okay,
we've heard about this, you know, we've listened to this, not
just not from me, but fromeveryone.
(03:03):
Really, even amongst themselvesit's like, yeah, okay, all
right, here we go.
Can we get to something else?
And I really felt that lastnight.
So, even though there was theresignation of Kimberly Cheadle
from the Secret Service and wetalked about that at length on
our previous podcast here at thePat's Peeps, I just mentioned
it last night because we need tolighten the mood, which is
(03:27):
exactly precisely where I'mgoing today.
So, if you don't mind, againI'm going to do something a
little bit different Now.
I told you I had this box setfrom National Lampoon.
I'm also a big fan of NationalLampoon.
This box set is CDs.
It's a collection of theiroriginal albums on CD put out in
(03:50):
the 90s, probably the 80s and90s.
Excuse me and anyhow, but waybefore that I was a fan of the
National Lampoon Chevy Chase,christopher Guest, john Belushi,
bill Murray, brian Doyle Murray.
There was, I mean, you know,gilda Radner, Lorraine Newman so
(04:13):
many great original Saturdaynight live voices that were part
of the National Lampoon, and Imentioned.
There's things back then thatthey would do that were
hilarious and they were with thetimes and they were satire.
I already did that spiel, soI'm not going to go back into it
, but as I got to thinking aboutit I thought, well, why not
(04:35):
play some of that stuff, lightenthe mood and play some of this
stuff.
So the first thing I'd like todo is just kind of introduce you
, because I cannot assume thateveryone knows even who I'm
talking about when I talk aboutthe National Lampoon.
Hopefully you've heard of thepeople I just mentioned, those
big celebrities, big stars.
(04:56):
Some of them are still with us,others not.
But these guys, the NationalLampoon, but these guys, the
National Lampoon.
Originally it was a humormagazine from 1970 to 1998.
(05:19):
And the spinoffs that they didon audio because I'm an audio
guy these were related to themagazine, they were related to
the Times, they were related tothe times.
Everything on this was veryacceptable.
I have things on here right now.
I know if I played it for youyou'd be like what, because it's
a different time Back then.
They'd be like this is making agreat point in a satirical way.
(05:40):
That's what I'm a fan of.
I want to play three selectionstoday of the National Lampoon.
I collected National Lampoonalbums way before this box set
ever came out.
By the way, the name of the boxset speaking of satire, and you
(06:04):
can't say that the name of thislike 40 cd set, it was a three
or four cd set is buy this boxor we'll shoot this dog.
It's got a gun, a revolver onthe front, a dog, a dog's face,
looking over the gun like whoagod, please buy this, but you
believe it or not even thoughnow you go oh, that's awful.
(06:26):
There was a time where they'remaking a point.
They literally have an albumcalled.
That's Not Funny, that's Sick.
They've got a frog I mentionedthis last time coming out of the
kitchen.
He's got no legs and he's on alittle board scooting along on
his hands at a restaurant andabove him in the kitchen.
Above the kitchen it says froglegs.
(06:48):
Come on, it's funny.
It was funny then, and I reallyalways enjoy these guys.
So again I thought I'd bringsome of these to you.
Now I'm going to play one foryou, that is, and I'm not going
(07:09):
to censor this, I am not goingto censor this.
I am not going to censor this.
I'm going to play this exactlyas it was when it came out on
the record.
If I play this on radio,obviously I would have to bleep
it out, but here on my podcast,no, this is original material,
(07:31):
as done by National Lampoon.
All right, here we go.
All right.
By the way, this is from thealbum.
Okay, so the album cover.
It's got a frog rolling out ofthe door of the kitchen at a
restaurant.
It's got a frog rolling out ofthe door of the kitchen at a
(07:52):
restaurant Next to that.
It says try our frog legs.
And it's got a man and hiswife's looking down.
They're holding a menu at atable.
She's looking down at the frogand the frog's looking up at her
.
But here you go, strap in onfor this one.
Here you go.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This is called Pulp from that album by National
Lampoon.
Here, honey, try this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Mmm.
Looks like our regularorange-colored frozen substitute
for artificial morningbreakfast beverage with
pulp-like particles added Wronghoney, but look pulp-like
substances.
Just like the concentrate thattastes almost like fresh but
doesn't cost.
Like the concentrate thattastes almost like fresh.
You mean this natural-tastingmorning breakfast beverage with
(08:46):
a flavor almost like freshsqueezed, that tastes better
than frozen and better thanthose reconstituted substitutes
for artificial morning breakfastdrink is actually pennies less
preserving than thoseconcentrates that taste almost
like fresh and have pope-likesubstances.
Wrong again honey.
Wrong again honey.
(09:07):
Wrong again honey.
Why the fuck did you stopsaying wrong again honey and
throw this fucking stuff in thetoilet and get out there and get
me some fucking orange juice?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Vintage National Lampoon.
I'm going to continue on withthis Unedited.
Unedited.
Here we are.
This is john belushi and thecrew.
This is called the nationallampoon radio.
This is interview with thehollywood gay alliance good
evening.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Uh, this is john belushi, and this is the
national lampoon radio hour.
Today, we're going to beinterviewing three of the
greatest superstars Hollywood'sever produced.
You're too kind, why don't youintroduce yourselves?
Hi, chuck.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Oh no, go ahead, chuck, chuckBronson.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Clint Eastwood.
John, Delighted to be here,Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Chuck Bronson, you are so coy, dear.
I'm Lee Marvin Hi and LeeMarvin Louie.
They're here today, today, totalk to you about something
that's been on their mind foryears, and they're they're,
they're coming out with it here.
For the first time, they haveformed a group called the
Hollywood Alliance.
What did I get that wrong?
Gay alliance, gay alliance.
(10:22):
Now, I can't believe that you,gentlemen, are really gay.
I mean, charles Bronson, howcould you be gay?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I'm an actor, if I may speak for Chuck, who are
kind of the finest actors in thebusiness, clint Eastwood.
Yes, gay, he's an actor.
He's an actor, if I may speakfor Chuck, who is one of the
finest actors in the business,clint Eastwood.
Yes, yes, chuck's an actor andwhat he does and what he's been
doing is a wonderful act.
Oh, you're beautiful, but it'stime to be real, isn't it Chuck?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Excuse me, it's time to knock the closet doors down.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's the Hollywood Superstar Gay Alliance, John,
and we have been thinking aboutthis for years, and it's an
organization that we've startedrecently, I would say in the
last nine months.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It just seems amazing to me.
Here you are, charles Bronson,mr Macho of the Screen, how
could you be gay?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
In the first place.
You're presuming right off thebean that because I'm gay, I
can't be macho.
And this is a fallacy, a myth.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's also a myth, if I may break in, to assume that
what we are on the screen iswhat we are off the screen and
we're not.
We're actors doing an honestday's work.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think the assumption is that if you're gay
, you're bad.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean it's wrong.
And I think our biggest problem, if I may, lee, is convincing
some of our peers to come outwith us.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It's amazing what other people in Hollywood are
gay.
I know you hear rumors.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Who isn't John?
Let's put it that way no?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I think that's really stepping over the line.
There are many heterosexuals inLos Angeles County.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Name one sweetheart, Rod McEwen, For instance.
Who are these Rod McEwen?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Let's uh, rod mckeown .
Well, for instance, who are youjust get out in the open?
This girl's heels are worn downwith to a frazzle.
Just number one who I live with, jimmy pierce, say rod mckeown
for two years, and I'm saying itnow, lee.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
That's a real shock.
That's a real shock.
No shock to me, lee.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It's no shock to me either there are a lot of little
girls.
What did lee say?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
lee, that's a real shock.
That's a real shock, that's areal shock.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I interrupted him when he said this girl's heels
are worn down with the frazzle.
Just to number one, I livedwith Jimmy Pearsall for two
years and I'm saying it now.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Lee, that's a real shock.
That's a real shock.
No shock to me, Lee.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
It's no shock to me either.
There are a lot of little girlson the set coming up now who
just can't, who just can't stepforward like we can, and we're
so happy to be able to help themout.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Uh, like who?
Just Ken Howard, for instance.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Ken Howard.
Right, ken came up to me he wasshooting that dreadful series
whatever that was called aboutthe two, uh, solicitors,
whatever they're called.
Ken came up to me crying hereyes out, said where do I go?
Who's going to take me?
And I just held him and saidit'll be all right.
And it was, it was.
(12:59):
I mean, the show flopped,didn't it?
Did they pick it up?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
It's that kind of compassion that Lee, for
instance, has, and Clint hereand Paul Newman, who's been
doing a tremendous amount ofwork for us.
Paul Newman is gay, Of course.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I don't believe that for a minute.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, go down to headquarters and ask him.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
By the way, I don't have the rights to this.
Okay, I'm just educating theaudience.
Come on now.
National Lampoon.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm telling you, he's right there, he's typing right
now.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Well, I know you've made movies with a lot of actors
.
There was a movie called theMagnificent Seven.
It had Yul Brynner and YulBrynner you had.
James Colburn, eli Wallach.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Now they weren't.
Everybody in the film was gay,and I think that's how it worked
, except for Horst.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
They called that the summer of sin.
When they made that movie andwe were, so Horst Buchholz was
the only one in that movie whowasn't gay, charles Bronson.
Now you made a movie, the GreatEscape.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
May I just ask where you got that belt, John?
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's not fair.
You should describe it.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
The buckle sort of looks like a snake.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I got a leather store on 10th Street somewhere.
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
By the way, that Great Escape right is the
motorcycle in that right.
Isn't that the Great Escape?
The motorcycle in that Samemotorcycle Fonzie rode in Happy
Days.
The very exact same motorcycle.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Anyway, um.
The Great Escape, the GreatEscape you made that film with a
number of James Garner.
You made it with Steve McQueen,Steve.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'll never forget you and Steve McQueen on that cart
when you were stuck.
You'll never forget.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I think that's why I really got to know Steve.
Well, steve came out just afterthat.
No, you see Steve's, anothersmall man.
He's not gay now is he Well,but Steve is gay, you see he is.
There are some small men whoare gay, oh yeah.
I'm sure you'd like to knowabout a lot of people who are
gay and, of course, we're nothere to spread the word on
people who are gay.
People who are gay and whodon't want other people to know
(14:59):
about it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It's not a gossip, that's their business.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
But we are here to say that we're gay and we are
the head of a rather largeorganization now of gay people
who are proud to be gay.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If we told you right now who people were, I mean who,
for instance?
Walter Cronkite?
Walter Cronkite is gay.
Casey Stangle, casey Stangle.
I can't believe you, the olddog, you know she has the
biggest collection of tiarasI've ever seen, really, for
instance, there are people thatyou just wouldn't expect.
You know couples.
I mean people that don't knowabout couples, for instance
Linus Pauling, and guess who?
(15:31):
Just try to match them, drSpock, dr.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Spock, but you know.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's not important who's gay or?
Who isn't gay.
What's important to us is that.
That's how gay they are.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
No, you're making a joke of this.
Is this a serious organizationor?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
There's a lot of other gay groups.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
He is always making jokes he's always a little bit
out of touch this girl is theboozer and she's not ashamed of
it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Bottle of wild turkey , and I'm happy now what about?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
are there any sports people that are gay?
Nitschke.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I went out with Nitschke for two summers.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Karim Abdul-Jabbar, who used to be known as Luau
Cinder, is gay, oh boy.
Everybody knows that, of course.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
That's amazing.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
When he swims it's a sight to behold.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Now, you can't tell me a guy like Dick.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Butkus is gay.
Dick Butkus is gay.
You've never seen Dick Butkusin a muumuu Incredibly gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
What about some rock stars?
Jerry Garcia's?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Jerry Garcia's gig.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
This is incredible.
What about the?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Beach Boys, all of them.
They've been going steady foryears.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
They're going together.
Bobby Rydell, what about DrStillman?
Dr Stillman's gig, but thewhole point of she certainly is.
I'm sorry, jay Silverheels oncesaid to me silver heels when
said to me oh God, okay, Onemore.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got one more.
It's another one of myfavorites.
This is the National Lampoon,this one here.
I actually got a little bit ofair time on FM radio back in the
70s.
This is.
I was so influenced by that eraand the fact that they would
play stuff like this.
(17:23):
It really caught my attentionand I still love it.
So this is Bill Murray andChristopher Guest.
Now Christopher Guest isplaying Mr Rogers, the late,
great Mr Rogers.
Bill Murray is playing the bassplayer.
If you've ever heard this, youknow how good this is.
So this is bass player beinginterviewed by none other than
(17:43):
Mr Rogers.
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Hi, we're going to talk about some nice things
today.
Did you know that?
Sure, some special things foryou, some special things for me
too, and we have a special guesthere today.
Can you say that guest, sure?
I knew you could.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
We're gonna talk today to a musician, the guy who
plays the bass.
You know what a bass is, don'tyou?
Can you say that?
Don't Sure you can.
Base is, don't you can you saythat?
Don't sure you can't?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
hello how are you?
You seen you get somebody giveme a cup of coffee or something.
You're not used to getting upearly.
I'm not here yet.
What time do you usually get up?
Speaker 8 (18:20):
I usually get up when the sun is warm, like 1, 30, 2
o'clock in the afternoon I liketo get around 6 30.
That's insane.
You're stupid.
You should sleep late, man.
It's just much easier on yourconstitution.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
We're going to talk about your bass and how big it
is and things like that.
It looks like a violin, butit's bigger, isn't it?
It's a hell of a lot bigger.
Can you say it?
Violin's a little wimpy thing.
Can you say wimpy, wimpy?
That's right, wimpy thing.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I like the way you say that.
Did you know that I do?
Now the hell.
You're easily amused, aren'tyou?
I say wimpy, wompy, wambly.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I know what you mean.
You know something I like whatyour face does when you play.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
It kind of gets all sort of squinched up, yeah
somebody told me once that myface when I play the bass it
looks like some sort of a bigjellyfish or something like that
.
It just keeps moving.
Sure you can never identifywhat the face is.
It's real ugly sometimes andwhen you're aware it looks like
a fruit or something, it justkeeps flashing.
Yeah, it's really rubber orsomething.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Tell me some of the things you think about when
you're playing the images,because, of course, when you're
playing, I thought of thingslike sheep and things like that
little candies, fresh littlecandies and things like that.
Do you think of those thingstoo?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Oh, I basically think about my financial situation.
I count every beat I play,every note I play and I figure
out how many notes I'm givinginto the space.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
You know out in the space for how much I'm getting
paid and I am working cheap Mustbe hard to sort of struggle to
get your band together.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Oh man, especially when you be lifting piano man,
that is the worst.
I worked as a mover for twoyears while I was first getting
a band together, and I've alsomade pizza.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
But now you're playing music, and so the story
sort of has a happy ending,doesn't it?
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Yeah, it's sort of a happy ending.
We just got the share from arecord company that had promised
to pay us a certain amount ofroyalties.
Oh that's too bad.
All sorts of stuff went intopre-production, that's too bad.
They be charging us for stamps.
They say how much is a stamp?
You know?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I'll buy the goddamn stamp.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Sure, I know what you mean.
I'm sure a lot of people outthere would like to know how a
big, strong guy like you playsthe bass so well, gets to be so
strong, what it eats to be likethat.
Can you tell us that?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Can I just interject Egg and muffin?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Well, I eat a lot of garbage food, but I mainly
consist on stuff like sandwichesand tins of tuna chicken
something like that from a chainstore soda.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Do you ever have Egg McMuffin?
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Sometimes Dad or cheese praters.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Can you say Egg, mcmuffin, egg-a-muffin?
Yeah Well, I know what I'd liketo do now.
I'd like to hear you play somebass.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I'd like to do that.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Well, we're going to go to the Magic kingdom.
Oh no, it's too early for me.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I gotta drive oh, that is a classic christopher
guest bill murray NationalLampoon.
I'll play some more of those asI move along in the podcast,
but here at number 119, which,by the way, that's pretty cool
(21:30):
we're all the way up to 119 andwe're picking up listeners all
the time.
I was just looking online andwe're picking up more and more
listeners.
So again, let me just interjectand say thank you for that.
Now I'm going to get to somemusic.
All right, today it was veryinteresting.
I pull a record off of my shelf,as I always do.
I have this Rare 45 collectionand many times, as I've said
(21:55):
before, there are two recordsper sleeve.
Neither one of them have everbeen played and they're in one
sleeve together.
And I've explained thisnumerous times.
But for those of you not heardit, you know you think it's
going to be a hit.
You send it same song bothsides.
If it's a hit, you can play.
One side gets needle burn, youflip it over and if it's still a
hit, you have the other recordto go to.
So anyhow, but today there wastwo records in this sleeve and
(22:19):
they're not the same record.
Now, that's the first time inmy record collection that I've
come across this.
They're usually identical orit's the same song, but maybe it
was.
You know one.
Maybe one record was all stereo, one was all mono, or maybe one
, maybe they were the same oneside stereo, one side mono, what
have you?
Or all side stereo.
(22:42):
Anyhow, this one is twodifferent songs, or two
different records, fourdifferent songs, sort of kind of
.
Let me explain.
And it's one of my very favoritebands.
When I was a kid I loved theseguys.
I still love them and it was anhonor when I was interviewing
(23:02):
them on my radio.
I can't remember who I had onmy radio show from this band,
but they said Pat, you ought tocome out and introduce us
because you really know ourmusic.
And I said you got to bekidding me.
So I got to introduce this bandand I was just blown away.
So this song is a song writtenand performed in 1971 by this
(23:26):
group, produced by JerryGoldstein.
Live version of the song wasfeatured as the B-side to their
74-single Bolero.
Now this song is in very unusualblues form.
This is one of the reasons Ilove this band their harmonica
player.
If I say his name you mightknow it right away.
And there was another harmonicaplayer, magic Dick, that played
(23:48):
in Jay Giles, who were myfavorites at the time.
I'll just tell you the guy'sname in this band, lee Oscar,
who went on to make his ownharmonicas.
So you probably know who I'mtalking about if you know the
band, or Lee Oscar.
And so, anyhow, the song UnusualBlues, with the first lines
being repeated in an African andLatin rhythm.
(24:10):
It is from the perspective ofsomeone whose friend's life was
taken away and so they're tryingto now be a recluse, or, you
know, withdrawing from reality,normal everyday life.
The song on the album was muchlonger.
It was almost seven minuteslong, like 6.59, I think it
(24:33):
clocked in, so they had to cutit down.
For radio there were some longsongs like, well you know,
american Pie and some others,hey Jude, but this one they cut
it down to 3.59, so they shavedthree minutes off of it, which
was fine.
I love the song, but if youlisten to the long version you
can understand why it omits thelower introduction and the
(24:56):
second verse of the song.
But it did very well and I lovedit.
It was just a string of hits bythis band that I loved in the
70s.
It went to number 12 on the USR&B chart.
Number 16 on the US pop chartin 72.
22 weeks on the chart, tied forthe most total weeks inside
that year with the song byGallery oh, it's so nice to be
(25:18):
with you.
Remember that one, featured onthe 71 album All Day Music,
ranked 23 on BillboardMagazine's top 100 singles of 72
.
Canada reached number 13.
It is from the band War andit's a song called Slippin' Into
Darkness.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Slippin' Into Darkness Well, well, well, well,
well, well, well, well.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well,
well, well, well, well, well,well, well, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
(26:11):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,take my mind beyond the trees.
I was slipping into darkness.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, take my mind Beyond the tree, where I talk to
my brother, oh, oh, oh, oh.
(27:09):
Where I talk to my brothers whonever said their name.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I just think they had such a different groove, they
were just unique.
They're still unique.
Hard to explain it in my mindwhat it's like, but I loved it
growing up.
World is a Ghetto Cisco, kid Meand Baby Brother.
I mean just song after song.
(27:40):
So many great ones.
Why Can't we Be Friends whichhad a little bit of a different
sound to it?
Lowrider, of course, theclassic, but I like their
lesser-known songs.
By the way, listen to WarPlatinum double album.
(28:02):
By the way, it's calledPlatinum.
Check it out sometime.
River Niger, four Cornered RoomSlippin' in the darkness.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Pretty soon you're gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And Lee Oscar, lee, oscar, lee, oscar.
The harmonica player just hadsuch a different sound, unique
sound for harmonica.
So you're probably familiarwith that tune.
(28:45):
But let's flip it over theother side again.
You know when I say I likethese deeper songs, like Beatles
on the Bog, which I bought as a45.
I remember that it was the flipside of the Cisco Kid.
Hey, cisco, I love that tune, Ilove that one.
I love Outlaw by.
(29:07):
I love that one, I love Outlawby them by War All day music.
But here's a good deep cutFlipping that record over.
It's a song called Nappy Head.
Here we go, flip side ofSlipping Into Darkness.
Cool, I love it as summertimemusic, for whatever reason it
(29:39):
reminds me of summer.
This is a groovy tune though.
Come on, this is one of myfavorite songs by the band and
it's the B-side to a 45, youknow, oh, I love what he just
(31:03):
said Thank you.
I always thought it would bereally cool to somehow see war
with Cheech and Chong.
I love that, yeah, come on.
I thought, man, how cool wouldthat be to be able to see
somehow a concert with War andCheech and Chong together.
(31:25):
Then one day I pick up anewspaper and what do I see In
front of my very eyes, warplaying with Cheech and Chong.
Went to San Francisco and sawhim on a foggy, dreary day and
it was so absolutely awesome.
You'd have War playing,grooving, and when they would
(31:50):
finish the lights would go downand lights ahead of them would
come on in front of them and itwould be Cheech and Chong
sitting there getting ready todo a skit.
Hey, what you doing, man?
Hey man, you know, I tried tocall you, man, I ain't got no
phone.
Man, I mean, it was awesome.
(32:13):
Then they came out and I'llnever forget he did the encore,
they did the encore, war doesthe encore.
And what do they do?
First, before they startplaying for the encore, cheech
Marin comes out here we are inSan Francisco, comes out a
beautiful white Dodger jersey.
(32:33):
Yeah, buddy, I'm like.
Yeah, baby, because I'm aDodger fan, right?
Yeah, baby, way to represent.
And the crowd starts going booBoo and he starts smiling.
And the crowd starts going booBoo and he starts smiling.
And when he starts smiling theybreak into bum, ba-bum, bum,
they start playing.
Why can't we be friends?
(32:54):
Why can't we be friends?
So he got the Dodger fans, gotall the Giants fans singing.
Why can't we be friends?
Like I said, today there wastwo records in the sleeve.
I was totally surprised by this,and it's not even war, it's
funky NASA.
I'm just going to tell youright up front, because I don't
know anything about these.
(33:14):
Maybe I do.
Anyone know this?
I don't.
Maybe when I put it on, Ihaven't listened to it yet.
Maybe I'll go.
Oh yeah, I know that song, butit's a song written by Ray
Munnings and Tyrone Fitzgerald,performed by the Beginning of
the End, a song recorded inCriteria Studios, miami.
Chuck Kirkpatrick engineeredthe thing, Marlon Productions
(33:38):
produced it and Beginning of theEnd arranged it and it went to
number seven.
So maybe I have heard this andthis is right in my wheelhouse.
71, even though I was a littlelittle kid, I still knew my
music, so maybe I will know this.
This might be one of those onesI haven't heard forever.
Reached number seven on the USR&B chart, 15 on the US
(34:01):
Billboard Hot 100.
This week, july 17th of 71,went to number 31 on the UK
singles charts in 1974.
Featured on the 71 album FunkyNassau, the single reached
number 75 on the Billboardyear-end Hot 100 singles in 1971
(34:22):
.
So let's put the platter on thetable here and let's see what
happens.
One side is this is on a greenlabel Alston label.
By the way, the war record wason United Artist with a stamp
January 20th of 72.
This one here by Funky Nasa hasa stamp on it May let me see,
(34:45):
may 20th of 71.
And it was released March of 71.
So that makes sense All right,but it's part one on the flip,
on the flip side, part two.
Here we go.
Part one, funky NASAassau, part1.
Now we're gonna call our veryown that's all rock and that's
(35:35):
all roll nassau's got a wholelot of soul feel all right.
Mini skirts, maxi skirts andafro hair do I love it, but I
don't?
But I don't know if I rememberthis Mini skirts, maxi skirts,
afro hairdo.
Remember that for sure.
Oh, this is one of those songswhere they let each guy in the
(36:10):
band get their little piece ofthe pie.
Go, get that same groove.
Bob is on the keyboards.
Baby, let it go, bob.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know that kind of song.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
There's the bass.
Listen to the guitar.
Give that soul some tune.
Oh yeah, James Brown-esque,Kind of a James Brown wannabe in
a way.
Huh.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
My cat.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Maceo.
All right, let's see if FunkyNASA Part 2, flip it over here.
See if Funky NASA Part 2 is anydifferent than Funky NASA Part
1.
Iunky Nassau Part 1 must be thehit side.
(37:08):
Let's try Funky Nassau Part 2,see if there's any difference
here we go.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's straight up James Brown, right there.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's straight up James Brown, right there.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right.
Well, that's awesome.
I don't think that's part ofthe song, although it works.
Kind of works with the song.
Forgot the term, I just do notdisturb on.
Goes with the song, though.
Yeah, it's going to do it forus right here.
(38:05):
Pats Peeps 119.
Had a good time.
Hope you did Back for 120.
I can't believe it Tomorrow.
Stay cool, see you on the radio.
See you on the radio.
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