Cooper Kupp, one of the most beloved Rams players, is leaving the team after eight incredible years that included a Super Bowl win and triple crown season. Disney's Snow White remake sparks controversy with unconventional casting and the decision to use CGI instead of actual dwarf actors, raising questions about authentic representation in Hollywood.
• Cooper Kupp released from the Rams after providing unforgettable moments for fans
• His performance in the NFC Championship against 49ers considered one of the most important Rams games ever
• Kupp's winning touchdown in the Super Bowl cemented his legacy as a Rams legend
• Disney's Snow White controversy centers on casting Rachel Zegler and using CGI instead of dwarf actors
• The irony of "inclusion" that excludes actors with dwarfism from rare employment opportunities
• Highlighting actors like Patrick Walsh and Michael Dunn who found success in dwarf roles
• Exploration of Sugarloaf's "Green-Eyed Lady" from 1970 and its fascinating recording history
• Original nearly 6-minute version versus the radio edit that became the standard
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to the Pats Peeps podcast number.
I love this number.
225, 225 podcasts Feels like amilestone for some reason 225
podcasts, 2025.
It's the 12th day of March and,as I look out my studio window
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into the beautiful foothills ofNorthern California, the sun has
gone away.
But that's okay.
It is raining Right now.
At the moment it's not, butit's going to be Matter of fact.
I hope I make it through thispodcast.
It's been kind of glitchy.
My equipment's been kind of.
I hope I don't have a poweroutage.
It's a Wednesday.
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I hope you're doing well.
Thank you for being part of ourever-growing Pats Peeps audience
.
Oh, please, I will keepreminding you if you would go to
patspeepscom.
Man, that wind is blowing outthere.
Let's see if you can hear itwhistling.
You might not be able to hearit.
I'll bet if I open my window.
Hold on, all right, hold on,see if you can hear this.
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Maybe you can't.
It was literally whistlingthrough here.
Oh, I can feel it Sitting hereby my wood stove, keeping nice
and comfy, toasty, a little tootoasty.
Wind kind of feels good.
But here on 225, I'm a littlesad because my team is losing
Cooper Cop man, one of myfavorite players.
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Let's see what else do we havetoday?
Oh, a cool song I picked frommy rare 45 collection.
I really like this song.
Glad I picked this one today.
The 49ers got one of my Rams.
Marcus Robinson went to the49ers, made me kind of sad.
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I'm going to talk about SnowWhite, but let's just kind of
bounce it around.
I'm going to bounce it aroundthe room a few times, see, let's
start with well, what the heck?
How about Cooper Cup, my manCooper Cup.
I'll just start.
I won't get too far into it,but I am sad to see Cooper Cup,
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my man Cooper Cup.
I'll just start.
I won't get too far into it,but I am sad to see Cooper Cup
leaving the Rams and who knowswhere he's going.
I will say this I'm a long,long-time Rams fan, you know
that, and Cooper Cup's one of myall-time favorite Rams.
He's 31.
He's had some injuries.
He had a base salary of $12.5million.
I don't like getting into allthe salary stuff, but it plays
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into it in sports Sometimes.
You know, plus you have thesalary caps.
You have to do what you have todo.
It's an ugly business in thatregard.
But today marks the end of anera, cooper Cup era with the LA
Rams.
I mean I just can't imagineCoop in another jersey for
another team, especially like Iheard the Cowboys maybe no, play
back no.
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But yeah man, he's leaving theorganization.
They had to release him beforethe start of the new year.
They were trying to trade him.
They didn't get any tradingpartners Based on, basically,
his age, the fact he's beeninjured.
This man was a triple crownwinner.
He is so smart.
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I mean I almost wouldn't put itpast him.
I don't know that.
He has a personality to be acoach or coordinator, but you
never know what's in his future,maybe an analyst, what have you
.
But he's got a greatpersonality.
I love the fact he never, ever,celebrates when he gets into
the end zone.
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Other than banging helmets withhis teammates.
He hands the ball to thereferee.
That's how he was raised and hepenned a heartfelt goodbye to
the team today, eight years, hesays, of incredible memories.
We talked often about the Ramsbeing back in LA, how we would
grow to be something specialhere.
Thank you for the sharedmoments.
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Thank you, la, for welcoming myfamily with open arms and
allowing us to grow here.
Next chapter begins now.
Best is yet to come.
What else is he going to say?
You know, and he didn't want toleave.
He doesn't want to leave hisbuddy, matthew Stafford.
But I'll tell you what he hasprovided some of the greatest
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moments for Rams fans in thelast well, ever, to be
completely honest with youincluding what I would determine
to be the most important gamethe Rams ever played.
And you might think that's aSuper Bowl and it might be the
Super Bowl, but in my opinionyou know I've said this before
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they had to beat the 49ers atSoFi.
You know the Rams come backfrom St Louis.
Now they're trying to establishthemselves in LA again.
A lot to do there, the Dodgers.
You know there's a lot going on, but these are the Rams and
they have a history in LA, andso they're trying to win the
fans back, and what better wayto win the fan base than to win.
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So now they're playing a teamthat had beat them like nine
times in a row, and now they'rein the NFC championship game at
SoFi.
The Rams have an opportunity towin on their home field and
then win the Super Bowl at home,because it was going to be
played at home that year theywould have been only the second
team to do that, after Tom Bradyand the Buccaneers had done it
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just the year before.
So with that on the line andfacing that losing streak to the
49ers, cooper.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Cup and Matt Stafford hooked up.
It was an awesome thing to see.
Matthew lets it fly.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's got Cup, cup breaks the tackle and gets the
first down.
Awesome thing to see.
Unless you're a Niner fan andthere was a lot of and part of
the reason that I say this wasthe most important game a Niner
fan and part of the reason thatI say this was the most
important game a lot of Ninerfans were at that game.
Sofi is a big place and if theNiners would have won that game
they would have just celebratedon their field.
Then the Super Bowl the Ninerswould have played at SoFi on the
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Rams field.
The Rams motto is whose house?
Our house, rams house?
Whose house?
Ram's motto is whose house, ourhouse, ram's house?
Whose house Ram's house?
The Niners win, they wouldforever adopt that slogan Whose
house Niners house?
It would have been embarrassing.
I would have had to live withthat here in California forever.
But if they lose the Super Bowl, if they beat the Niners and
lose the Super Bowl, then it'soh, that's right, you lost to
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the Bengals.
I remember that.
But it would be living hell forme, for me as a Ram fan living
in in Niner country.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But here comes Cooper Cup they're down and one
Stafford end zone cop got ittouchdown.
Rams made it a red zone andjust an outstanding route he got
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and that made it a close game.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But there was one play that really stands out
right here there's cup needsblocks.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Got him first down inside the 30, now the 25.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, there's two then, because that was in
sequence.
That play was huge, huge playon third down and 10 or whatever
it was.
But the next play is really oneof the coolest plays that I've
seen the Rams do.
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Stafford throws Pass Caughtoppstill rumbling Kopp down to the
12 that was a moment where theystretched his shirt out to pull
him down or he would have beengone for the touchdown.
And when he gets up for a guywho never celebrates a touchdown
he had such intensity that whenhe stood up he just screamed
and looked up at the air.
And that moment I was fired up.
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So were the Rams, so were the.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ram fans.
Here's Odell Beckham here.
You got Emmanuel Mosley acrossfrom him.
They're running four-cross zoneFour-cross right here Under got
Emmanuel Mosley across from him.
They're running four acrosszone Four across.
Right here.
Underneath it's Kopp.
Fred Warner closes down.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It will be fourth down and San Francisco uses
their and the Rams end upwinning the game.
Then the Super Bowl, the SuperBowl, the Super Bowl.
They go on to host the SuperBowl at home against the
Cincinnati Bengals Pass.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Cup, got it Touchdown .
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Cooper Cup gets the winning touchdown for the Rams
in the Super Bowl.
Oh, my, cooper Cup gets thewinning touchdown for the Rams
in the Super Bowl.
By the way, he's wearing in thehighlights, in these particular
highlights in the Super Bowl,he's wearing number 10.
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I have his original jersey,which is number 18, roman
Gabriel's number, my friendRandall rest in peace.
That was one of his jerseyswhich I inherited and wear
proudly for Randall.
But there goes Cooper Cup.
Farewell, my friend.
I'll tell you again, you'llalways be one of my favorite
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favorite Rams.
Again, you'll always be one ofmy favorite favorite Rams and
whoever gets Cooper Cup is goingto be a very.
It's going to be a greatacquisition for them, because I
still believe Cooper Cup has gota lot in the tank.
Another story that I justthought I would get to today is
how about this?
You know they're going torelease what is it this month?
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They're going to release thenew Snow White movie.
Disney's Snow White will nothit theaters until March 21st,
but that can't come soon enough.
It's already just embroiled incontroversy.
I love using the word embroiled.
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Thank you so much, hey, for somany reasons.
Now Ken Dogg is my moviereviewer, ken Dogg and I, to be
honest, off air, I bring thiscontroversy up.
I don't want to belabor thepoint on my show all the time
and be the sourpuss, thebuzzkill when it comes to movies
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, but these kind of thingsbother me and, believe me, I
could take a while to talk aboutit.
But Disney let's face it hasbecome a woke company in terms
of their movies, everything theydo woke.
I consider them woke, theythink they're progressive and
now there's all of thiscontroversy.
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Can you believe what?
The Snow White movie, and howdo you get to this point where
it's just you know, so just sucha controversy?
Well, snow White comes underfire in very ugly fashion and
that happened almost immediatelyin 2021, after the casting of
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Rachel Zegler, who was ofColombian descent, for playing
the famously quote skin as whiteas snow character.
Snow White, you know, and youcan think of so many other
examples, I can.
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You know the production,likewise, originally cast a
diverse group.
So the Snow White thing playedby Rachel Zegler, of Colombian
descent, is one thing.
The production originally it'sSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Come on.
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Now they can't even call itSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs
anymore.
The.
Now they can't even call itSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs
anymore.
The production likewiseoriginally cast a diverse group
of actors of various sizes andgenders to play the Seven Dwarfs
, which was met with uproar andmockery, of course, from purists
, which it should have been whenset.
Photos leaked and the characterswere then reworked with CGI to
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appear like the dwarfs in theoriginal film.
I have an idea.
How about you use, I don't know, dwarfs?
I mean so two years ago, zeglerstrongly suggested this is so
ridiculous that she did it.
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Well, and that's fine.
If you don't like the originalfilm, fine, that's up to you.
But she did a trio of TVinterviews, different outlets,
calling the original extremelydated.
Oh really, no kidding, you meanfrom the 1930s, extremely dated
?
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You've told me before that your version of Snow White
is different and it's more of a2022 version of Snow White.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Really.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
What did you mean by?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
that I mean.
You know, the original cartooncame out in 1937, and very
evidently so.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Evidently so.
Why?
Because it has beautifulanimation.
Is that why?
Because it had a white womannamed Snow White?
Because it portrayed dwarves?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean this is ridiculous.
There's a big focus on her lovestory and an uptalker at that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I hate these uptalkers On her love story, as
if you know the uptalk thing islike.
I hate these uptalkers On herlove story, as if you know the
uptalk thing is like do youunderstand what I'm saying?
Can you follow?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
that focuses on her love story With a guy who
literally stalks her.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh my God, a guy who literally stalks her.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Weird, weird, you're weird.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, this was like 19,.
What, what did you say 1938?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So we didn't do that this time.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh you're so much better, you told me before that,
your version of Snow White isdifferent and it's more of a
2022 version of Snow White.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
What did you mean by that?
I mean, you know, the originalcartoon came out in 1937.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
1937.
So apparently her generation isfar superior to the generation
of 1937 in terms of movie makersand in terms of the you know
what?
Snow White is a classic movie.
So no one really cares aboutyour woke opinion about the
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movie, Because of course Disneywas not going to use a white
actress, because somehow thatwould be including whitey.
It would be mean oppressingothers, others.
What a bunch of horse manurethat is.
It is okay to still put somewhite people in roles that were
formerly, you know, played bywhite people.
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It is okay to put dwarfs in amovie.
You're not being racist, youknow you're not.
Tell me how many parts before Iget to that.
How many parts before I get tothat?
How many parts exist for dwarfsin movies?
More of Rachel and herwonderful?
Here's her apology.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And to everyone who hates when I win.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
We hate.
I was just telling my friendsthe other day I hate when Rachel
Zegler wins.
You know what my friend said tome who's Rachel Zegler?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
The winged victory came to the Louvre in pieces.
Oh, no, and people still lineup to see her.
Oh, wow, and I can only hopethat, despite my flaws and
despite my cracks and my breaksand there are many of them oh,
no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
She said yeah, you're progressive in one way, but
then you're still making thateffing backwards story about
seven dwarfs living in a cavetogether.
Oh no, someone wrote a fantasystory about dwarfs living in a
cave.
Oh no, it doesn't impact reallife.
Disney responded to uh um, oh,is it?
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Dinklage concerns, stating thatit's consulting with the
dwarfism community to avoidreinforcing stereotypes from the
original animated film peterdinklage, who expressed concerns
about the original animatedfilm Peter Dinklage, who
expressed concerns about theoriginal film's portrayal of the
Shut up, they're dwarves.
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Come on, dude, who are you,peter Dinklage?
The decision to use CGI.
So they used a variety of sizesand genders of people and then
somehow squeezed them intosomething that looked like
dwarfs, because everyone washorrified when they released the
original footage.
Like hey, those aren't dwarfs,those are weird people.
Snow white and snow not sowhite.
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And the weird people so muchbetter.
And the weird people so muchbetter.
The decision to use CGI insteadof actors with dwarfism has
been met with criticism.
Really, how about this?
These are from the same peoplewho talk about inclusion,
inclusion, diversity andinclusion.
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Right, there's this growingemphasis about diversity and
inclusion Well, in Hollywood too.
But you don't want to usedwarfs, so you're excluding
dwarfs.
Everyone's excluded exceptdwarfs.
Sorry dwarfs, you got to go.
Sorry dwarfs.
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By the way, the original wascartoons.
They weren't even real people.
They were, you know, cartoonsdopey and grumpy or whatever.
Critics have also accusedDisney of being politically
correct and woke for changingthe characters.
Others have criticized thedecision to use CGI instead of
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acting.
Okay, all of that.
So they replaced the sevendwarfs with seven, let's see
seven, just people, like I say,of various sizes and shapes, and
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then just turned them intothese animated dwarfs.
Well, here's a couple of people.
Let me just think about this.
I started to think about thatfor a second.
How about Patrick Walsh?
Patrick Walsh, you know,patrick Walsh was a dwarf.
I love these dwarves.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I hope.
I hope it's home to where we goCome on.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I hope, I hope.
Oh, I'm so offended by thismovie.
It's home to where we go.
Clearly it's so outdated.
Jeez, I hope.
I hope I love this.
And you think about this howmany jobs are there for dwarfs
or little people or whatever thepolitically correct thing is?
I respect what someone wants tobe, whether it's little people
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or dwarfs, and I don't find thisis making fun of anything.
I think it's very positive.
These guys work.
I know a lot of people thatdon't work and I don't know them
personally.
You know.
Here's another example.
Oh, pat, you shouldn't playthat.
Why.
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This is one of the mostmemorable scenes ever.
Come on, why.
I mean, they did a wonderfuljob.
You're not going to get a lotof people, a lot of jobs, I
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should say, for dwarfs.
You know?
Another one I think of isMichael Dunn.
Remember Michael Dunn?
He played Megalito KeoteLoveless in the Wild, wild West.
Remember that guy?
He was nominated for a TonyAward for the best featured
actor in a play for the Battleof the Sad Cafe.
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He was also up for the AcademyAward for the best supporting
actor in Stanley Kramer's Shipof Fools.
Born in 34, died too soon, 1973,at the age of 38.
And yes, the word dwarf isperfectly acceptable to most
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dwarves, just not Rachel Zeglerand the people who made this
movie.
And Michael had known for hisroles, like I said, in the Wild
Wild West and apparently he wasalso in Star Trek, which I did
not watch Star Trek, but theytalk about inclusion.
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But nope, sorry, dwarfs, wecan't do that.
And as far as Patrick Walsh,patrick Walsh, if you watch the
movie Wizard of Oz, the flyingmonkeys, with the wicked witch
who, by the way, in the newmovie is no longer white,
whatever, captain America isn'teither, but okay, whatever you
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want to do.
But Patrick Walsh was anAmerican dwarf, he was a
character actor.
He was actually a circusperformer.
He specialized in impersonatingand portraying animals and he
was best known for playing Nico,the head of the winged monkeys,
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the main winged monkey.
That was always with the WickedWitch of the West in the movie
Wizard of Oz, which is one of myfavorite movies yeah, 1939.
And he appeared in only a fewfilms.
Most of his work was in theaterin vaudeville, in circus.
Yeah, that was Patrick Walsh.
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When you see the movie nexttime, the one that's always
looking at the, you know theinner crystal ball with her.
He's standing there looking ather.
That's Patrick Walsh, andthey're looking at her that's
Patrick Walsh.
So apparently this is now thebig controversy.
You know what it reminds me of?
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Wasn't it Mickey Rooney?
Didn't he play?
What was it?
Was it Breakfast for Tiffany?
He played like Mr Yunioshi, orsomething like that.
It kind of reminds me in a wayof that, because I remember,
even as a kid, my mother musthave been watching, uh,
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breakfast at tiffany's, and backthen you would see like white
actors playing asians.
You would see white actorsliterally like Jewish guys
playing headhunters onGilligan's Island, when they
apparently had never seen awhite man before on this island.
But yet they were played byguys named like Harvey
Sheckstein, sheckstein, you know, shecky, shecky Greenstein, I
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mean, you know something likethat.
They were hilarious, they werefun.
But I mean, come on, you know.
So it kind of reminds me ofthat.
If you have dwarfs and they needwork, why can't you put them in
a movie?
And in the movie isn't she like, is she animated?
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I guess she's animated Whatever.
I'm not going to be seeing themovie, I guess she's animated
whatever.
I'm not going to be seeing themovie, but Mr Yunioshi in
Breakfast at Tiffany.
As much as I like, mickeyRooney, perhaps should have been
played by an actual, you know aJapanese person who he played,
a Japanese photographer, right,it's kind of a parody though,
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like you can't do blackfacewithout getting in trouble.
But we can do that, mickeyMooney, and it's considered a
great movie.
So my point is why couldn't youjust have a Japanese gentleman
play that part?
Why can't you have dwarfs?
Give them work.
There's not a lot ofopportunities.
I think I made my point on allof that.
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I almost gave the phone numberfor my show to see what you
thought about that.
By the way, I am the host of thePat Wall Show on KFPK Radio in
Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
I hold in my hand a record thatI have plucked from my rare
record collection shelf here,one of my shelves.
(25:30):
This is on Liberty Records.
Pull it out of the sleeve.
Here it's in a different kindof sleeve.
It has an actual sleeve that itcame in.
It's not one of the greengeneric radio sleeves that I
normally pull out from the radiostation.
The record is in good shape.
(25:50):
I'm not going to say it's inmint, but it's in very good
shape and I love this song andmost people think this song, if
they can even remember the nameof this band, thought they had
only one hit.
They actually had a couple ofhits, one of which I played on a
previous Pat's Peeps episode,and this song does or this
record does have a B-side to it.
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The label is black.
It's got a picture of theStatue of Liberty on the record.
It's got a little sort of arainbow variation there on the
edge of the record label.
So I'll tell you a little bitabout this.
One Popular single by thisAmerican rock band, written by
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Jerry Corbetta, jc Phillips andDavid Reardon, featured on the
band's debut album, was theirfirst single peaked at number
three on the Billboard Hot 100in 1970.
I remember this is one of therecords that my buddy, brad
McNally, and I had.
We had it on a 45.
One of us did, and then Bradhad those record players.
(26:54):
It was like a little plasticrecord player.
You put the record on like aclose and play whatever they
called those.
You put the record on, then youclose the lid and it would
start playing.
We close and play whatever theycalled those.
You put the record on, then youclose the lid and it would
start playing.
We had this record that we usedto play in that.
I remember that it was 1970,rpm Magazine's number one single
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for two weeks.
It's been featured in dozens ofcompilation albums.
There was a longer originalversion, which I love, and then
the shorter edited version forradio.
The single released in the USin three different versions
share the same catalog numberLiberty 56183, but different
matrix numbers on the recordlabels.
Let's see the original singlerelease, lb28060s.
(27:43):
What do I have here?
Let's see if the originalsingle release LB-28060S what do
I have here?
Let's see if I can find it Wasa 5 minute and 58 version.
5 minute and 58 seconds that'spretty long for a single.
No edits, but an early fade out.
Okay, that's cool.
Almost immediately after thelast verse that happened, they
faded it out Was edited down totwo minutes and 58 seconds.
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On the mono stereo promotionalsingle LB2860 DJ copy and then
LB2860S DJ copy Sort of a stereorecord, dj copy for Radio
Airplay in which the entireorgan and guitar solos were
edited out.
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When the song started climbingthe charts the recording was
reworked one final time whichincluded a shortened piece of
the organ and guitar break.
On the single LB2860SRE thathas become the common 3 minute
and 33 second version used bythe radio stations today and
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this one is let me look threeminutes and 33 seconds.
So it is that version used bythe radio stations.
I love the original versionbecause of the lengthy intro.
Yesterday I was complainingabout lengthy intros.
Today I'm praising the lengthyintro.
Lengthy intro.
Yesterday I was complainingabout lengthy intros.
Today I'm praising the lengthyintro.
Aside from other minor edits,the two shorter tracks begin
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with the opening stirred bar andalso end with the early fade
outs.
The album version ended with acadence in the organ.
I've always loved the song.
Let's see Did very well inCanada.
Number one, number three on theBillboard Hot 100.
In.
The song let's see Did verywell at Canada.
Number one, number three on theBillboard Hot 100 in the US.
The original version ofSugarloaf's Green-Eyed Lady had
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a lengthy intro.
So so that's three times onthat intro so far.
Love the bass groove, groove.
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We'll see how long it takesbefore he begins singing Pat's
Peeps 225.
Thanks for being there.
(30:57):
122.
Green-eyed Lady.
It took him one minute and 22seconds to get to that.
Now, if you listen to thesingle edit, much different.
So we'll listen to the singleedit One time.
Now, right into the song, seethey cut out the other two parts
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of the intro and he startssinging 30 seconds in, versus a
minute at 22.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Rolling slowly towards the sun.
Green-eyed lady, ocean lady,soothing every raging wave that
comes.
Green eyed lady, passions.
(32:10):
Lady dressed in love.
She lives for life.
To be Green-eyed lady feelslife.
I never see Setting suns andlonely lovers free.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You can really sense the edits if you know the
original song.
The great keyboards here.
Green-eyed Lady receivinggenerally positive reviews.
One reviewer calling it a jazzyand memorable tune.
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One reviewer calling it a jazzyand memorable tune.
John Laycock of the WindsorStar called it a bewitching
single.
But the song did have a B-sideGreen-eyed lady.
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So what was on the B-side ofthat cool classic tune?
Well, it is a song called Westof Tomorrow.
West of Tomorrow, flip it over.
All right, here is Sugarloafand the flip side of that West
of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
After midnight, while the gray light paints a new day
, Misty hour.
Love and power.
Find a new way.
Love and power, find new ways.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Whole world sleeping Young love stirring While the
night goes, blue stars fadingCurtains playing by a window, by
a window, by a window West oftomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
East of today, love explodes into a righteous day,
sending me so high, I'll alwaysstay.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I can see how that would be.
The B-side Sounds like theperfect B-side, nothing
overwhelming or too too exciting.
By the way, for those of youwondering, I said that Sugarloaf
had a couple of hit songs.
The other one, if you remember,is Don't Call Us, we'll Call
you, where they actually use therecord exec's phone number on
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the buttons on the digital phoneor on the push-button phone in
that song.
It's pretty catchy.
Hey, thank you for listening tothe Pats Peeps podcast number
225.
Very grateful for that.
Enjoy your day.
I hope you're healthy and we'llsee you on the radio.
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Let's talk tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
East of today.
Welcome to the Pats Peeps podcast number.
I love this number.
225, 225 podcasts Feels like amilestone for some reason 225
podcasts, 2025.
It's the 12th day of March and,as I look out my studio window
(00:37):
into the beautiful foothills ofNorthern California, the sun has
gone away.
But that's okay.
It is raining Right now.
At the moment it's not, butit's going to be Matter of fact.
I hope I make it through thispodcast.
It's been kind of glitchy.
My equipment's been kind of.
I hope I don't have a poweroutage.
It's a Wednesday.
(00:58):
I hope you're doing well.
Thank you for being part of ourever-growing Pats Peeps audience
.
Oh, please, I will keepreminding you if you would go to
patspeepscom.
Man, that wind is blowing outthere.
Let's see if you can hear itwhistling.
You might not be able to hearit.
I'll bet if I open my window.
Hold on, all right, hold on,see if you can hear this.
(01:20):
Maybe you can't.
It was literally whistlingthrough here.
Oh, I can feel it Sitting hereby my wood stove, keeping nice
and comfy, toasty, a little tootoasty.
Wind kind of feels good.
But here on 225, I'm a littlesad because my team is losing
Cooper Cop man, one of myfavorite players.
(01:42):
Let's see what else do we havetoday?
Oh, a cool song I picked frommy rare 45 collection.
I really like this song.
Glad I picked this one today.
The 49ers got one of my Rams.
Marcus Robinson went to the49ers, made me kind of sad.
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I'm going to talk about SnowWhite, but let's just kind of
bounce it around.
I'm going to bounce it aroundthe room a few times, see, let's
start with well, what the heck?
How about Cooper Cup, my manCooper Cup.
I'll just start.
I won't get too far into it,but I am sad to see Cooper Cup,
(02:29):
my man Cooper Cup.
I'll just start.
I won't get too far into it,but I am sad to see Cooper Cup
leaving the Rams and who knowswhere he's going.
I will say this I'm a long,long-time Rams fan, you know
that, and Cooper Cup's one of myall-time favorite Rams.
He's 31.
He's had some injuries.
He had a base salary of $12.5million.
I don't like getting into allthe salary stuff, but it plays
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into it in sports Sometimes.
You know, plus you have thesalary caps.
You have to do what you have todo.
It's an ugly business in thatregard.
But today marks the end of anera, cooper Cup era with the LA
Rams.
I mean I just can't imagineCoop in another jersey for
another team, especially like Iheard the Cowboys maybe no, play
back no.
(03:11):
But yeah man, he's leaving theorganization.
They had to release him beforethe start of the new year.
They were trying to trade him.
They didn't get any tradingpartners Based on, basically,
his age, the fact he's beeninjured.
This man was a triple crownwinner.
He is so smart.
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I mean I almost wouldn't put itpast him.
I don't know that.
He has a personality to be acoach or coordinator, but you
never know what's in his future,maybe an analyst, what have you
.
But he's got a greatpersonality.
I love the fact he never, ever,celebrates when he gets into
the end zone.
(03:53):
Other than banging helmets withhis teammates.
He hands the ball to thereferee.
That's how he was raised and hepenned a heartfelt goodbye to
the team today, eight years, hesays, of incredible memories.
We talked often about the Ramsbeing back in LA, how we would
grow to be something specialhere.
Thank you for the sharedmoments.
(04:13):
Thank you, la, for welcoming myfamily with open arms and
allowing us to grow here.
Next chapter begins now.
Best is yet to come.
What else is he going to say?
You know, and he didn't want toleave.
He doesn't want to leave hisbuddy, matthew Stafford.
But I'll tell you what he hasprovided some of the greatest
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moments for Rams fans in thelast well, ever, to be
completely honest with youincluding what I would determine
to be the most important gamethe Rams ever played.
And you might think that's aSuper Bowl and it might be the
Super Bowl, but in my opinionyou know I've said this before
(04:55):
they had to beat the 49ers atSoFi.
You know the Rams come backfrom St Louis.
Now they're trying to establishthemselves in LA again.
A lot to do there, the Dodgers.
You know there's a lot going on, but these are the Rams and
they have a history in LA, andso they're trying to win the
fans back, and what better wayto win the fan base than to win.
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So now they're playing a teamthat had beat them like nine
times in a row, and now they'rein the NFC championship game at
SoFi.
The Rams have an opportunity towin on their home field and
then win the Super Bowl at home,because it was going to be
played at home that year theywould have been only the second
team to do that, after Tom Bradyand the Buccaneers had done it
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just the year before.
So with that on the line andfacing that losing streak to the
49ers, cooper.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Cup and Matt Stafford hooked up.
It was an awesome thing to see.
Matthew lets it fly.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's got Cup, cup breaks the tackle and gets the
first down.
Awesome thing to see.
Unless you're a Niner fan andthere was a lot of and part of
the reason that I say this wasthe most important game a Niner
fan and part of the reason thatI say this was the most
important game a lot of Ninerfans were at that game.
Sofi is a big place and if theNiners would have won that game
they would have just celebratedon their field.
Then the Super Bowl the Ninerswould have played at SoFi on the
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Rams field.
The Rams motto is whose house?
Our house, rams house?
Whose house?
Ram's motto is whose house, ourhouse, ram's house?
Whose house Ram's house?
The Niners win, they wouldforever adopt that slogan Whose
house Niners house?
It would have been embarrassing.
I would have had to live withthat here in California forever.
But if they lose the Super Bowl, if they beat the Niners and
lose the Super Bowl, then it'soh, that's right, you lost to
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the Bengals.
I remember that.
But it would be living hell forme, for me as a Ram fan living
in in Niner country.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But here comes Cooper Cup they're down and one
Stafford end zone cop got ittouchdown.
Rams made it a red zone andjust an outstanding route he got
(07:11):
and that made it a close game.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But there was one play that really stands out
right here there's cup needsblocks.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Got him first down inside the 30, now the 25.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, there's two then, because that was in
sequence.
That play was huge, huge playon third down and 10 or whatever
it was.
But the next play is really oneof the coolest plays that I've
seen the Rams do.
(07:49):
Stafford throws Pass Caughtoppstill rumbling Kopp down to the
12 that was a moment where theystretched his shirt out to pull
him down or he would have beengone for the touchdown.
And when he gets up for a guywho never celebrates a touchdown
he had such intensity that whenhe stood up he just screamed
and looked up at the air.
And that moment I was fired up.
(08:13):
So were the Rams, so were the.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ram fans.
Here's Odell Beckham here.
You got Emmanuel Mosley acrossfrom him.
They're running four-cross zoneFour-cross right here Under got
Emmanuel Mosley across from him.
They're running four acrosszone Four across.
Right here.
Underneath it's Kopp.
Fred Warner closes down.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It will be fourth down and San Francisco uses
their and the Rams end upwinning the game.
Then the Super Bowl, the SuperBowl, the Super Bowl.
They go on to host the SuperBowl at home against the
Cincinnati Bengals Pass.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Cup, got it Touchdown .
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Cooper Cup gets the winning touchdown for the Rams
in the Super Bowl.
Oh, my, cooper Cup gets thewinning touchdown for the Rams
in the Super Bowl.
By the way, he's wearing in thehighlights, in these particular
highlights in the Super Bowl,he's wearing number 10.
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I have his original jersey,which is number 18, roman
Gabriel's number, my friendRandall rest in peace.
That was one of his jerseyswhich I inherited and wear
proudly for Randall.
But there goes Cooper Cup.
Farewell, my friend.
I'll tell you again, you'llalways be one of my favorite
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favorite Rams.
Again, you'll always be one ofmy favorite favorite Rams and
whoever gets Cooper Cup is goingto be a very.
It's going to be a greatacquisition for them, because I
still believe Cooper Cup has gota lot in the tank.
Another story that I justthought I would get to today is
how about this?
You know they're going torelease what is it this month?
(10:07):
They're going to release thenew Snow White movie.
Disney's Snow White will nothit theaters until March 21st,
but that can't come soon enough.
It's already just embroiled incontroversy.
I love using the word embroiled.
(10:30):
Thank you so much, hey, for somany reasons.
Now Ken Dogg is my moviereviewer, ken Dogg and I, to be
honest, off air, I bring thiscontroversy up.
I don't want to belabor thepoint on my show all the time
and be the sourpuss, thebuzzkill when it comes to movies
(10:52):
, but these kind of thingsbother me and, believe me, I
could take a while to talk aboutit.
But Disney let's face it hasbecome a woke company in terms
of their movies, everything theydo woke.
I consider them woke, theythink they're progressive and
now there's all of thiscontroversy.
(11:15):
Can you believe what?
The Snow White movie, and howdo you get to this point where
it's just you know, so just sucha controversy?
Well, snow White comes underfire in very ugly fashion and
that happened almost immediatelyin 2021, after the casting of
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Rachel Zegler, who was ofColombian descent, for playing
the famously quote skin as whiteas snow character.
Snow White, you know, and youcan think of so many other
examples, I can.
(12:01):
You know the production,likewise, originally cast a
diverse group.
So the Snow White thing playedby Rachel Zegler, of Colombian
descent, is one thing.
The production originally it'sSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Come on.
(12:21):
Now they can't even call itSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs
anymore.
The.
Now they can't even call itSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs
anymore.
The production likewiseoriginally cast a diverse group
of actors of various sizes andgenders to play the Seven Dwarfs
, which was met with uproar andmockery, of course, from purists
, which it should have been whenset.
Photos leaked and the characterswere then reworked with CGI to
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appear like the dwarfs in theoriginal film.
I have an idea.
How about you use, I don't know, dwarfs?
I mean so two years ago, zeglerstrongly suggested this is so
ridiculous that she did it.
(13:04):
Well, and that's fine.
If you don't like the originalfilm, fine, that's up to you.
But she did a trio of TVinterviews, different outlets,
calling the original extremelydated.
Oh really, no kidding, you meanfrom the 1930s, extremely dated
?
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You've told me before that your version of Snow White
is different and it's more of a2022 version of Snow White.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Really.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
What did you mean by?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
that I mean.
You know, the original cartooncame out in 1937, and very
evidently so.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Evidently so.
Why?
Because it has beautifulanimation.
Is that why?
Because it had a white womannamed Snow White?
Because it portrayed dwarves?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean this is ridiculous.
There's a big focus on her lovestory and an uptalker at that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I hate these uptalkers On her love story, as
if you know the uptalk thing islike.
I hate these uptalkers On herlove story, as if you know the
uptalk thing is like do youunderstand what I'm saying?
Can you follow?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
that focuses on her love story With a guy who
literally stalks her.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh my God, a guy who literally stalks her.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Weird, weird, you're weird.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, this was like 19,.
What, what did you say 1938?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So we didn't do that this time.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Oh you're so much better, you told me before that,
your version of Snow White isdifferent and it's more of a
2022 version of Snow White.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
What did you mean by that?
I mean, you know, the originalcartoon came out in 1937.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
1937.
So apparently her generation isfar superior to the generation
of 1937 in terms of movie makersand in terms of the you know
what?
Snow White is a classic movie.
So no one really cares aboutyour woke opinion about the
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movie, Because of course Disneywas not going to use a white
actress, because somehow thatwould be including whitey.
It would be mean oppressingothers, others.
What a bunch of horse manurethat is.
It is okay to still put somewhite people in roles that were
formerly, you know, played bywhite people.
(15:26):
It is okay to put dwarfs in amovie.
You're not being racist, youknow you're not.
Tell me how many parts before Iget to that.
How many parts before I get tothat?
How many parts exist for dwarfsin movies?
More of Rachel and herwonderful?
Here's her apology.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And to everyone who hates when I win.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
We hate.
I was just telling my friendsthe other day I hate when Rachel
Zegler wins.
You know what my friend said tome who's Rachel Zegler?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
The winged victory came to the Louvre in pieces.
Oh, no, and people still lineup to see her.
Oh, wow, and I can only hopethat, despite my flaws and
despite my cracks and my breaksand there are many of them oh,
no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
She said yeah, you're progressive in one way, but
then you're still making thateffing backwards story about
seven dwarfs living in a cavetogether.
Oh no, someone wrote a fantasystory about dwarfs living in a
cave.
Oh no, it doesn't impact reallife.
Disney responded to uh um, oh,is it?
(16:45):
Dinklage concerns, stating thatit's consulting with the
dwarfism community to avoidreinforcing stereotypes from the
original animated film peterdinklage, who expressed concerns
about the original animatedfilm Peter Dinklage, who
expressed concerns about theoriginal film's portrayal of the
Shut up, they're dwarves.
(17:08):
Come on, dude, who are you,peter Dinklage?
The decision to use CGI.
So they used a variety of sizesand genders of people and then
somehow squeezed them intosomething that looked like
dwarfs, because everyone washorrified when they released the
original footage.
Like hey, those aren't dwarfs,those are weird people.
Snow white and snow not sowhite.
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And the weird people so muchbetter.
And the weird people so muchbetter.
The decision to use CGI insteadof actors with dwarfism has
been met with criticism.
Really, how about this?
These are from the same peoplewho talk about inclusion,
inclusion, diversity andinclusion.
(17:56):
Right, there's this growingemphasis about diversity and
inclusion Well, in Hollywood too.
But you don't want to usedwarfs, so you're excluding
dwarfs.
Everyone's excluded exceptdwarfs.
Sorry dwarfs, you got to go.
Sorry dwarfs.
(18:18):
By the way, the original wascartoons.
They weren't even real people.
They were, you know, cartoonsdopey and grumpy or whatever.
Critics have also accusedDisney of being politically
correct and woke for changingthe characters.
Others have criticized thedecision to use CGI instead of
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acting.
Okay, all of that.
So they replaced the sevendwarfs with seven, let's see
seven, just people, like I say,of various sizes and shapes, and
(19:02):
then just turned them intothese animated dwarfs.
Well, here's a couple of people.
Let me just think about this.
I started to think about thatfor a second.
How about Patrick Walsh?
Patrick Walsh, you know,patrick Walsh was a dwarf.
I love these dwarves.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I hope.
I hope it's home to where we goCome on.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I hope, I hope.
Oh, I'm so offended by thismovie.
It's home to where we go.
Clearly it's so outdated.
Jeez, I hope.
I hope I love this.
And you think about this howmany jobs are there for dwarfs
or little people or whatever thepolitically correct thing is?
I respect what someone wants tobe, whether it's little people
(19:53):
or dwarfs, and I don't find thisis making fun of anything.
I think it's very positive.
These guys work.
I know a lot of people thatdon't work and I don't know them
personally.
You know.
Here's another example.
Oh, pat, you shouldn't playthat.
Why.
(20:13):
This is one of the mostmemorable scenes ever.
Come on, why.
I mean, they did a wonderfuljob.
You're not going to get a lotof people, a lot of jobs, I
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should say, for dwarfs.
You know?
Another one I think of isMichael Dunn.
Remember Michael Dunn?
He played Megalito KeoteLoveless in the Wild, wild West.
Remember that guy?
He was nominated for a TonyAward for the best featured
actor in a play for the Battleof the Sad Cafe.
(21:04):
He was also up for the AcademyAward for the best supporting
actor in Stanley Kramer's Shipof Fools.
Born in 34, died too soon, 1973,at the age of 38.
And yes, the word dwarf isperfectly acceptable to most
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dwarves, just not Rachel Zeglerand the people who made this
movie.
And Michael had known for hisroles, like I said, in the Wild
Wild West and apparently he wasalso in Star Trek, which I did
not watch Star Trek, but theytalk about inclusion.
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But nope, sorry, dwarfs, wecan't do that.
And as far as Patrick Walsh,patrick Walsh, if you watch the
movie Wizard of Oz, the flyingmonkeys, with the wicked witch
who, by the way, in the newmovie is no longer white,
whatever, captain America isn'teither, but okay, whatever you
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want to do.
But Patrick Walsh was anAmerican dwarf, he was a
character actor.
He was actually a circusperformer.
He specialized in impersonatingand portraying animals and he
was best known for playing Nico,the head of the winged monkeys,
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the main winged monkey.
That was always with the WickedWitch of the West in the movie
Wizard of Oz, which is one of myfavorite movies yeah, 1939.
And he appeared in only a fewfilms.
Most of his work was in theaterin vaudeville, in circus.
Yeah, that was Patrick Walsh.
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When you see the movie nexttime, the one that's always
looking at the, you know theinner crystal ball with her.
He's standing there looking ather.
That's Patrick Walsh, andthey're looking at her that's
Patrick Walsh.
So apparently this is now thebig controversy.
You know what it reminds me of?
(23:12):
Wasn't it Mickey Rooney?
Didn't he play?
What was it?
Was it Breakfast for Tiffany?
He played like Mr Yunioshi, orsomething like that.
It kind of reminds me in a wayof that, because I remember,
even as a kid, my mother musthave been watching, uh,
(23:34):
breakfast at tiffany's, and backthen you would see like white
actors playing asians.
You would see white actorsliterally like Jewish guys
playing headhunters onGilligan's Island, when they
apparently had never seen awhite man before on this island.
But yet they were played byguys named like Harvey
Sheckstein, sheckstein, you know, shecky, shecky Greenstein, I
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mean, you know something likethat.
They were hilarious, they werefun.
But I mean, come on, you know.
So it kind of reminds me ofthat.
If you have dwarfs and they needwork, why can't you put them in
a movie?
And in the movie isn't she like, is she animated?
(24:18):
I guess she's animated Whatever.
I'm not going to be seeing themovie, I guess she's animated
whatever.
I'm not going to be seeing themovie, but Mr Yunioshi in
Breakfast at Tiffany.
As much as I like, mickeyRooney, perhaps should have been
played by an actual, you know aJapanese person who he played,
a Japanese photographer, right,it's kind of a parody though,
(24:42):
like you can't do blackfacewithout getting in trouble.
But we can do that, mickeyMooney, and it's considered a
great movie.
So my point is why couldn't youjust have a Japanese gentleman
play that part?
Why can't you have dwarfs?
Give them work.
There's not a lot ofopportunities.
I think I made my point on allof that.
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I almost gave the phone numberfor my show to see what you
thought about that.
By the way, I am the host of thePat Wall Show on KFPK Radio in
Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
I hold in my hand a record thatI have plucked from my rare
record collection shelf here,one of my shelves.
(25:30):
This is on Liberty Records.
Pull it out of the sleeve.
Here it's in a different kindof sleeve.
It has an actual sleeve that itcame in.
It's not one of the greengeneric radio sleeves that I
normally pull out from the radiostation.
The record is in good shape.
(25:50):
I'm not going to say it's inmint, but it's in very good
shape and I love this song andmost people think this song, if
they can even remember the nameof this band, thought they had
only one hit.
They actually had a couple ofhits, one of which I played on a
previous Pat's Peeps episode,and this song does or this
record does have a B-side to it.
(26:12):
The label is black.
It's got a picture of theStatue of Liberty on the record.
It's got a little sort of arainbow variation there on the
edge of the record label.
So I'll tell you a little bitabout this.
One Popular single by thisAmerican rock band, written by
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Jerry Corbetta, jc Phillips andDavid Reardon, featured on the
band's debut album, was theirfirst single peaked at number
three on the Billboard Hot 100in 1970.
I remember this is one of therecords that my buddy, brad
McNally, and I had.
We had it on a 45.
One of us did, and then Bradhad those record players.
(26:54):
It was like a little plasticrecord player.
You put the record on like aclose and play whatever they
called those.
You put the record on, then youclose the lid and it would
start playing.
We close and play whatever theycalled those.
You put the record on, then youclose the lid and it would
start playing.
We had this record that we usedto play in that.
I remember that it was 1970,rpm Magazine's number one single
(27:17):
for two weeks.
It's been featured in dozens ofcompilation albums.
There was a longer originalversion, which I love, and then
the shorter edited version forradio.
The single released in the USin three different versions
share the same catalog numberLiberty 56183, but different
matrix numbers on the recordlabels.
Let's see the original singlerelease, lb28060s.
(27:43):
What do I have here?
Let's see if the originalsingle release LB-28060S what do
I have here?
Let's see if I can find it Wasa 5 minute and 58 version.
5 minute and 58 seconds that'spretty long for a single.
No edits, but an early fade out.
Okay, that's cool.
Almost immediately after thelast verse that happened, they
faded it out Was edited down totwo minutes and 58 seconds.
(28:05):
On the mono stereo promotionalsingle LB2860 DJ copy and then
LB2860S DJ copy Sort of a stereorecord, dj copy for Radio
Airplay in which the entireorgan and guitar solos were
edited out.
(28:25):
When the song started climbingthe charts the recording was
reworked one final time whichincluded a shortened piece of
the organ and guitar break.
On the single LB2860SRE thathas become the common 3 minute
and 33 second version used bythe radio stations today and
(28:45):
this one is let me look threeminutes and 33 seconds.
So it is that version used bythe radio stations.
I love the original versionbecause of the lengthy intro.
Yesterday I was complainingabout lengthy intros.
Today I'm praising the lengthyintro.
Lengthy intro.
Yesterday I was complainingabout lengthy intros.
Today I'm praising the lengthyintro.
Aside from other minor edits,the two shorter tracks begin
(29:08):
with the opening stirred bar andalso end with the early fade
outs.
The album version ended with acadence in the organ.
I've always loved the song.
Let's see Did very well inCanada.
Number one, number three on theBillboard Hot 100.
In.
The song let's see Did verywell at Canada.
Number one, number three on theBillboard Hot 100 in the US.
The original version ofSugarloaf's Green-Eyed Lady had
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a lengthy intro.
So so that's three times onthat intro so far.
Love the bass groove, groove.
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We'll see how long it takesbefore he begins singing Pat's
Peeps 225.
Thanks for being there.
(30:57):
122.
Green-eyed Lady.
It took him one minute and 22seconds to get to that.
Now, if you listen to thesingle edit, much different.
So we'll listen to the singleedit One time.
Now, right into the song, seethey cut out the other two parts
(31:43):
of the intro and he startssinging 30 seconds in, versus a
minute at 22.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Rolling slowly towards the sun.
Green-eyed lady, ocean lady,soothing every raging wave that
comes.
Green eyed lady, passions.
(32:10):
Lady dressed in love.
She lives for life.
To be Green-eyed lady feelslife.
I never see Setting suns andlonely lovers free.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You can really sense the edits if you know the
original song.
The great keyboards here.
Green-eyed Lady receivinggenerally positive reviews.
One reviewer calling it a jazzyand memorable tune.
(33:01):
One reviewer calling it a jazzyand memorable tune.
John Laycock of the WindsorStar called it a bewitching
single.
But the song did have a B-sideGreen-eyed lady.
(33:43):
So what was on the B-side ofthat cool classic tune?
Well, it is a song called Westof Tomorrow.
West of Tomorrow, flip it over.
All right, here is Sugarloafand the flip side of that West
of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
After midnight, while the gray light paints a new day
, Misty hour.
Love and power.
Find a new way.
Love and power, find new ways.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Whole world sleeping Young love stirring While the
night goes, blue stars fadingCurtains playing by a window, by
a window, by a window West oftomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
East of today, love explodes into a righteous day,
sending me so high, I'll alwaysstay.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I can see how that would be.
The B-side Sounds like theperfect B-side, nothing
overwhelming or too too exciting.
By the way, for those of youwondering, I said that Sugarloaf
had a couple of hit songs.
The other one, if you remember,is Don't Call Us, we'll Call
you, where they actually use therecord exec's phone number on
(35:34):
the buttons on the digital phoneor on the push-button phone in
that song.
It's pretty catchy.
Hey, thank you for listening tothe Pats Peeps podcast number
225.
Very grateful for that.
Enjoy your day.
I hope you're healthy and we'llsee you on the radio.
(35:55):
Let's talk tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
East of today.
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