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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm still looking out
my studio windows into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia.
It's still Wednesday, it'sstill May 14th.
I did one earlier, a podcastnumber 261.
Hi there, how are ya?
Hey, thanks for dropping by,dropping by my studio here, and
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as we look out the windows,today, on this beautiful
Wednesday, it's sunny, it's aspringtime, it's a little cool.
I said that earlier, so I knowI'm repeating myself, because
rarely do I do two in one day.
But just so you know, this isPat's Peeps 262, which I'm doing
today, on Wednesday, the 14thday of May, two days before the
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dreaded birthday.
Hey, it beats the other options.
I promise you I'm happy, I'mdoing well, thank God.
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But I did an earlier podcast,and what that is is I did a.
I just I played a conversationthat I had live on all your
streaming platforms, just likethis very podcast.
Um, yeah, and so I talked alittle bit about p.
I talked a lot about pete rose.
Last night we did talk aboutthis, I think.
Did we talk about this?
Hey, who am I talking to?
Last night night, by the way,on my show, someone called,
cracked me up.
They go hey, pat, which.
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This is really great too,because I keep getting calls on
my show.
I listen to your podcast.
I'm starting to really listento them now every day, thank you
.
And he goes as I'm driving, Ilisten, he goes.
Can I ask you, who are youtalking to when you're doing the
podcast?
Are you talking to someone orare you sitting there kind of
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just talking to yourself?
Glad he brought that up.
You know I'm sitting heretalking to myself.
I'm literally sitting here.
I've got in front of the window, like I always tell you, I'm
looking at the weather.
I'm sitting here and it's justme.
This is what you learn to dowhen you do radio for years,
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like I have.
You just talk.
You feel the audience that youknow, hopefully, that they are
there.
If not, you need to dosomething else for a living.
But I've been blessed knowingthat people have been listening
both to the podcast and theirshow.
So, yeah, I answered hisquestion.
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Yep, I just sit here by myself,you know.
So if you get an opportunity,please check out.
But if you haven't heard me myconversation with Pete Rose God
rest his soul.
You know we got into all ofthis stuff with the rock and
roll.
I mean not the rock and rollbut the Baseball Hall of Fame
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and all that.
He was reinstated yesterday.
So it's a great conversation,okay, and I had some other
things to talk about too heretoday, but I got.
I did get right before Istarted the show.
You know, I have all thesethings to talk about on this
podcast Plus.
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I picked out a whole like Ifound a gold vein of records in
my 45 collection that I love.
Pulled the first one out.
I said oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, that'd be a good one
.
Wonder what the next one out?
I said oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, that'd be a good one.
I wonder what the next one is?
I pulled that one out and Ilooked at it.
I went, actually, I can't standthis song.
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I can't stand this song or this.
Sorry to say that this artistcan't like them, all right, but
I thought, you, this would be agood one for the audience,
because I don't like it, otherpeople do, and it's an
interesting story, no doubt.
Speaking of interesting stories, I pull that one out.
I say, oh, yeah.
Then there's this one, yeah,yeah.
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And then this one I don't evenknow Mystery record, I don't
know if I've heard it.
So I took one, two, one, two,five records out.
So I you know I'm I was gonnaget to some of those, or at
least one.
And then, and I had this otherthing about my birthday.
Thank god I have a birthdaycoming up, but oh my god, I'm
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starting to feel like thenumbers are racking up and I'm
an old guy now and I'll promiseyou this man, I'm not Like.
I feel like I can still get onmy Schwinn bike.
I swear, I guarantee you Icould shoot hoop, I could still
play ball, I could throw afastball.
I mean, god, I hope I don'thave that old man syndrome, but
that's going to take me down thewrong road.
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I'm just blessed to be here,but the time just keeps on
ticking.
Perhaps when I'm in a morecontemplative, is it
introspective mode?
Am I getting that right?
See, here I am.
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Who am I talking to?
No one.
Introspective, introspective,whatever.
I was going to get into that.
I was going to get into some.
Well, there's a variety ofthings.
And then I got to thinking andI thought you know, hey, this is
what 2025?
.
And in the context of gettingolder, I started thinking about
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the records from 50 years ago.
Let me count that up.
Let me make sure I'm countingthis right, because somehow that
doesn't sound right to me.
Let me go 75, 85, 95, 2005.
Doesn't sound right to me.
Let me go 75, 85, 95, 2005,2015, 2020, 50 flipping years
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ago.
When you I'll tell you thiswhen you can remember records
from 50 years ago, you'regetting old.
Now, again, I don't feel it.
But I'm telling you, man, youknow, when I got excited is when
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I looked at the albums.
Now, if you were to ask me hey,pat, what albums came out in
1975?
Just give me a variety ofalbums that came out in 1975.
I promise you that I could dothat.
There's no doubt Right off thetop of my head.
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I promise you I could do that.
When I looked at the recordsthat came out in 1975, I mean
this.
To me, this is like goingthrough my record collection, my
personal record collection, notmy rare 45s.
I'm talking about my personalrecord collection.
These are the records thatmeant everything to me.
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These are the records that whenI first started earning money,
that I was using my own money togo and purchase.
These are the records that Iknow, the deep cuts.
People say, oh, I like the hits.
You know what I've always?
Yeah, the hits are okay.
I like the deep cuts.
The reason I know the deep cutsis because, again, I would
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spend my money that washard-earned and the entire time
I'm working, when I was 15 to,like you know, from, let's say
15 to maybe 19, 20 years old,but particularly between 17 and
19, let's say 18, 20 years old,but particularly between 17 and
19, let's say Everything I didin terms of work.
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I calculated in my mind how manyrecords does that day work?
How many records will that buyme?
At the record factory which wasmy favorite record store?
Yeah, there was Tower.
Sorry, I mean, I love Tower too, don't get me wrong, I love
them all.
It just happened to be where Ilived.
But, uh, why I like the recordfactory the best and I'll tell
you why.
But but you know, because Ilived in South Sac and it was
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convenient.
It was right behind FlorenceCenter, other than Parkway.
Bam, right there I'm on my shoeand bike, bam, if I lived
anywhere else Elk Grove, whathave you?
You jump on the regionaltransit, you get your bus pass.
I'm there with my buddy, keith,keith, keith, welch, love you
brother.
And everything.
I would calculate in how manyalbums I could buy if I worked.
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And the thing is it was $3.33for the new album.
That was what they cost, $3.33,all the brand new stuff.
And you go in there and yousmell the incense or whatever.
They always have great musicplaying.
I can remember that was thefirst time I ever heard raggae,
bob Marley and the Whalers.
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I'm like, wow, what is this?
Okay, I like this.
It's different.
I like it Reminds me of summer,going back to a previous
conversation we had, where yourmusical taste is affected by
climate.
So, going back to 1975, thealbums that came out that year
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are so personal to me.
I started looking at the list.
I'm like, oh my God, all ofthem.
The first one that came to mind, for whatever reason, and I'd
listen to this all day I justmentioned Keith Welch.
So one day, you know, keith andhis family lived out in this
field it's kind of this field atthe end of the street.
Our family lived right in themiddle, at the sort of towards
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the end of this neighborhood.
Then a field started and hisfamily lived kind of it was
almost country kind of out therewhere they lived and the
landlord of the house they livedin he had a big old trailer out
there, a big truck trailer, andit was filled with newspapers
Sacramento Bee, sacramento Union.
They're all piled in there,magazines, all this stuff.
It wasn't garbage, it wasnewspapers and magazines, anyhow
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.
So he asked Keith, hey, keith,I'll give you now, how about
this 1975, I'll give you 15bucks maybe it was 15 bucks,
something like that 15 bucks toyou and 15 bucks to your friend.
If you guys unload this trailerthing of news, this trailer of
newspapers, into this othertrailer over here, and both of
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us are like, yep, anytime we canmake money to buy records, we
said yes, so I'm working all day, working.
This is 1975.
I'm like calculating, so I canbuy.
Essentially I can buy probablythree records.
Being realistic, I don't wantto overshoot my budget.
And the number one album Iwanted to buy that day and the
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number one album I wanted to buythat day Zeppelin double album,
physical Graffiti I didn't ownthe license then I don't own
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them now.
I'm just telling a storyeducating Led Zeppelin, physical
graffiti and again, I'm a deepcut guy.
So I'd go with like custard pie, yeah, yeah, the Rover I would
sit in my room listen to In myTime of Dying.
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I was always fascinated at thesong Houses of the Holy which
was on this album, I'll be like,hey, wait a minute now.
Why is the song Houses of theHoly on the album Physical
Graffiti and why is it not thetitle track to their album,
houses of the Holy?
Are they trying to mess withthis?
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I maybe had another word for itback then.
But yeah, but that's on here.
You had Kashmir, which, ofcourse, kashmir everyone's
favorite Trampled underfoot inthe light, bronyar, oh yeah,
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down by the seaside, 10 yearsgone.
Night flight the Walton songBoogie with Stu.
Remember that.
10 Years Gone.
Night Flight the Wanton SongBoogie with Stu.
Remember that, remember that.
And that would lead into BlackCountry Woman.
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And he'd be like hey, man, hey,let's see, see, start laughing
not even yet remember that.
Oh, sick again.
What a great album, you know.
And then I.
But then I'm looking at thelist of albums from that year,
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and it's not the only one.
I mean you must be kidding me.
I mean, if you look at thatyear oh man, I got a mosquito
flipping in my face now, rascal.
Anyhow, you go back to 75.
Again, just to my way ofthinking, one of the best years
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ever for rock and roll albums.
1975, you have Shine On you,crazy Diamond, pink Floyd.
I mean, if you think about thatalbum, not only do you have
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shine on you, crazy diamond, youhave to have a cigar.
Welcome to the machine.
Wish you were here.
I mean, what an album.
And I start looking through, ohmy gosh, just the ones that are
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closest to me in terms of oh, Iremember I had this, okay, so I
had a album by uh, must havebeen Tommy Bolin maybe, and I
think it was Tommy Bolin, and Itraded, traded with this dude
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named Derek, or something likethat, because I was really
getting into this artist that Ihad just discovered and he says,
well, I'll trade you thisrecord, the guy you're liking
and that you're just discovering, and I'll trade you that for
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your Tommy Boland and I said,yeah, okay, yeah, I'll do that.
And I didn't know this album,but I was going to take a chance
, no matter what.
And boy am I glad that I did,because I put the record on the
turntable and it's Frank Zappa'sone-size-fits-all album and
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when I put it on the turntable,that confirmed that, yes, this
dude right here.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm going to end up
being a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
He sings about people
.
I see now all the time he'ssaying about society.
I'm always seeing people nowout in public in their pajamas,
frank knew that was going tohappen.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Pajama people are
boring me to pieces.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Pajama people.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Feel like I am
wasting my time.
They all got flannel up anddown A little trap, doll back
around them Some cozy littlefootings on their mind.
Ha ha, pajama people, pajamapeople, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I loved Frank man
Singing about pajama people and
now you walk through to you gosomewhere, to the grocery store.
There they are and I alwaysthink there's the pajama people.
1975, desperado the Eaglesagain.
Being a deep cut guy, yes, theyhad.
Desperado was on here on thisalbum, tequila Keyless, sunrise,
but I used to love Outlaw man.
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Bitter Creek 75,.
What a great year.
What a great year for rock androll albums.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I am an outlaw.
I was born an outlaw son.
The highway is my legacy.
On the highway I will run.
In one hand I have a Bible, inthe other I got a gun.
Don't you know me?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm the man of one
one woman don't try to love me,
don't try to understand.
A life upon the road is thelife of an alpha man.
Yeah, I always loved that oneby them within 75.
I mean, how about Springsteendoing the album Born to Run?
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Yes, I could have played Bornto Run, yes.
I mean, of course, there's allthe great hits on this record,
but again, I always liked thealbum the deep cuts, jungleland,
one of my favorites from thatalbum.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
The Rangers had a
homecoming In Harlem late last
night and a magic rat drove hissleek machine Over the Jersey
state line Barefoot girl sittingon the hood of a Dodge Drinking
warm beer in the soft summerrain.
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The rap pulls and the townrolls up his pants.
Together they take a stab atromance and disappear down
Flamingo.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Lane, the thing about
Bruce and his music.
I've never been to New Jersey.
I've never been to this part ofthe United States.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Will a maximum lawman
run down Flamingo chasing me?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But when I listen to
him, this guy can take me there
just by you know his music andby the lyrics.
Yeah, this had 10th AvenueFreeze Out, had Thunder Road
Born to Run.
I mean, I'm certain that thatis considered to be, you know,
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one of the great rock and rollalbums of all time.
It's Pats Peeps 262.
If you go back to 1975, anothergreat record still stands the
test of time of time.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Toys in the Attic,
aerosmith, talk about things
that nobody cares, wearing outthe things that nobody wears.
You call my name, but I gottamake clear.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I can't say baby,
well, I'll be in a year, so I
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mean, if you go back to thatalbum, I mean how often did you
hear Walk this Way?
I mean you heard it all thetime.
I mean it was on the radioconstantly.
And then so was this man.
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It's good stuff from 75.
You go up and down the list.
All kinds of different, allkinds of different styles of
popular music Fleetwood, macRhiannon.
I can still hear all of thesesongs coming out of the AM radio
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as I was learning to drive acar, so you had stuff lighter
like that.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Rest in peace,
Christine McVie, by the way.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Will you ever win?
She is like a cat in the darkand then she is the darkness.
Wow, that got played all thetime.
I was into harder stuff.
So in 75, I would crank thisone up to Ted Nugent, his first
debut.
All right, that's redundant.
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His debut album from ted nugentoh yeah.
So if you were scanning the amdials back then Self-titled
debut album from Ted Nugent, ohyeah.
So if you were scanning the AMdials back then, back in 1975,
you go to the other end of thespectrum and you might hear this
popular song, or any of thesepopular songs actually Uh, let's
see, uh, let's see, uh, let'ssee.
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How about this one?
You would hear this one a loton the radio.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Very good to see you
down in New Orleans, man.
Yeah, harry, yeah, yeah 1975.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Paul McCarty and
Wings Pat's Peeps 262.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Anytime, any day, you
can hear the people say that
love is blind.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, I don't know,
but I say love is kind.
On the radio every hour on thehour, this song.
Listen to what the man said.
Remember that?
Paul McCartney man.
How could that be 50 years ago?
I mean, it's just incredibly.
I don't even know what the wordis.
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I don't even know what the wordis.
I know that 50 years ago thisclassic came out.
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
They're more popular than ever.
Caught in a landslide.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
No escape from
reality.
Open your eyes, look up to theskies and see, I'm just a cool
boy.
I need no sympathy Because I'measy.
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Come, easy go Little highlittle low.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Who knew they would
be this popular?
Now I would.
I would say that they are againprobably more popular than they
have been.
I mean, maybe ever.
75, this one always reminds meof 1975.
Always, every time I hear itFrom the album Young Americans,
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david Bowie.
Tell me who's singing thesecond part of Fame.
Who says it?
Who says Fame the higher, no,the higher key range?
Tell me who's singing thesecond part of Fame?
Who says it?
Who says Fame the higher, no,the higher key range.
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I always did like this.
So he goes fame and he goesfame.
Who does the fame?
And loose hard to swallow Fame.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
So he goes fame, and
he goes fame who?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
does the fame A
couple of more times.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And I'll tell you
some of you probably already
know John Lennon.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
In case you don't
know, john Lennon does.
That second one I alwaysthought that was really cool
growing up.
You know from 1975, an albumcame out that to me.
An album came out that to mehas the hardest rock riff of any
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song ever to me and it's myfavorite album by this band.
The album Sabotage by BlackSabbath.
I mean from start to finish,finish is my favorite from that
band.
Some people might say paranoid.
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I mean people will debate whichis the best Sabbath.
Some people might not even care, but for me it's this one.
The band was on top of it.
I mean Ozzy was sounding greattoo.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'm looking through
the hole in the sky.
I'm seeing nowhere through theeyes.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I want someone.
I'm going to play that hardestriff for you To me.
See, I love this one too.
Symptom of the Universe is offof this one Thrill of it all.
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So in the thrill of it all.
So it's in this song.
And, yeah, I wish I could do a.
I'd love to do a show on thatsometime, but you'd have to be.
It'd be an audience of hardrock aficionados picking their
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hardest rock riff.
But I've always considered thisone coming up, maybe my
favorite and the hardest.
I don't own the music, I'm justgoing to play it.
Okay, as soon as the tempo, assoon as the song changes, that's
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the riff I'm talking about.
I don't want to interrupt itRight here.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
See you Anyhow,
because I get to oh my gosh, I
get into that song that is sogood to me.
So this is a you know, oh, Ihave to do one.
I have to do a couple morebecause Because if I didn't do
this then I would just kickmyself.
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So in 1975, there was another.
There was an album by DeepPurple and this album Richie
Blackmore was now out of theband and I believe it was
Coverdale was singing.
David Coverdale was now singinginstead of Ian Gillian.
I believe I have to go back andlisten to this, which I'm going
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to do and, um, but it was TommyBolin.
You know, I just mentionedTommy Bolin trading for that
Zappa record.
Tommy Bolin replaced RichieBlackmore in the band at this
time and Tommy Bolin had a verydifferent sound than Richie
Blackmore.
Uh, I do believe it wasCoverdale singing this one I'll
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know, I'll correct myself if I'mwrong, but who eventually sang
with Whitesnake, just as aterrific singer.
But of course so is Ian Gillian, but in the song this album is
Come Taste the Band.
It was never really on thecharts or anything, just a
personal favorite from 75.
And when you listen to it,that's total Tommy Bolin, right
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there, I mean you would thinkthis is a Tommy Bolin album
listening to that DavidCoverdale.
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So this was the last studioalbum or studio record yeah, the
Deep Purple made before theirinitial disbandment or breakup
in 76 and thus the only studioalbum their initial disbandment
or breakup in 76.
And thus the only studio albumby the band's Mark IV lineup,
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tommy Boland on guitar.
The last three albums thatfeature David Coverdale on lead
vocals, glenn Hughes on the bassand guitar vocals, and both of
those guys were on the band, orI mean on the album Stormbringer
by Deep Purple, which is thefirst album I ever bought with
my own money.
So I want to just listen for asecond here.
Listen to Tommy Bowling on theguitar and then the way the song
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breaks down in the middletypical Tommy Bowling, not Deep
Purple.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh, oh Woo.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Right there, that's
Tommy Boland, straight up
influencing Purple.
I could go on.
1975, great year for records.
I know I didn't get to all ofthem.
My God, blood on the Tracks,bob Dylan, come on.
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I could go on and on with theseRoxy Music, siren, the who by
Numbers, red Octopus, jeffersonStarship, oh my gosh.
Oh yeah, all right, I am goingto go on for a second.
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Here's another one.
Come on now.
This one, 1975.
I'm sorry, I see I could not dothe show without doing this one
.
1975.
Talk'm sorry, I see I could notdo the show without doing this
one.
1975.
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Talk about representing Come on, foghat Fool for the City, take
it easy, slow ride, take iteasy, slow ride, take it easy.
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Of course that's going to bethere in 1975.
I mentioned the record factory.
I'll never forget walking intothe record factory so I could
buy this record.
And when I walked in, whateverrecord they were playing in the
store, they would have itsitting, uh, on a little shelf
so you could see and it wouldsay now playing.
When I walked in, this wasplaying and it was mine within
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seconds.
I was buying this record.
So I just talked about tommyboland being in deep purple.
Well, what was richie blackmoredoing?
The deep purple guitarist?
He was doing his solo stuff.
This album, richie blackmore,blackmore's Rainbow, his new
group, ronnie James Dio, singingI'm a wheel, I can roll, I can
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feel.
You can't stop me turning,cause I'm the sun.
I'm the sun, I can move, I canrun, but you'll never stop me
burning.
So I bought everything thatRichie Blackmore did Richie
Blackmore's Rainbow, everything.
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Lift my spirit higher.
Someone scream in my name, comeand make me holy again.
I'm the man of the silvermountain.
Ah, I knew the entire thing andstill do by heart.
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1975 gave us this completelyinnovative tune by 10cc that
everyone would copy.
Everyone copied this.
Remember this I'm not in love.
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Pat's Peeps 262.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Thank you for
listening.
I'm not in love, so don'tforget it.
It's just a silly phase I'mgoing through.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh, wow, yeah, great.
One Great tune Kind of remindsme of, you know, same kind of a
feel as another 1975 big songthat came out that year, this
one, that 10cc song, theproduction value where they
built on the vocals andmulti-tracked so many.
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That was very, very, verydifferent and innovative.
Remember this one Miracles,jefferson Starship, red Octopus
from 1975.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Believe in miracles,
so would I.
If only you believed like Ibelieved, like I believed, we'd
get by.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
If only you believed
in, if only you believed in
miracles, so would I, as I'mlooking at 1975, I'm going to
wrap it up because I know this.
I know I'm going to wrap it upbecause I know this.
I know that I could go on andon.
I'll say one, and another onewill pop in my head.
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So I'm just going to play onemore.
And this was a great tune,classic, of course.
I wish I had a radio stationwhere I could just play all of
these.
I just really do.
I just think that would be sofun to just sit and be able to
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play the entire thing.
And oh, but alas, I am tangledup in blue.
Oh, it's Bob Dylan.
There's so many good onesMothership Connection,
parliament, blues for Allah theGrateful Dead, the first dead I
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ever got into.
I became a huge fan.
Why Can't we Be Friends by War?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Came out in 75.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
The Great Fandango,
fandango by ZZ Top 75.
Even though I wasn't, and havenot been, a big fan of Kiss Kiss
.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Alive came out in 75.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Captain Fantastic
Brown, Deer Cowboy, Elton John,
Aerosmith, Hair of the DogHorses.
Patti Smith, thank you forlistening to me go on and on
about 1975.
50 years ago these great albumscame out.
We'll see you next time.
Thanks for listening to my PatsPeepseps.
(41:40):
We'll see you on the radio.