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Speaker 1 (00:16):
by the sound of the
music, I assume it is another
pats peeps.
Hey, pat's Peeps.
Hey, I assumed correctly, pat'sPeeps.
What are we at?
263.
263rd Peep?
Today is a Thursday, staring outmy studio window into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia where the sun is
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coming in.
It's a beautiful spring day,not too hot, it is the perfect
spring day.
Half of my yard has been weeded.
Thank you to jt.
Thank you, jt.
Half of it done.
Now he has hay fever.
You know as people do whenthey're cutting down weeds.
And so, jt, back tomorrow.
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I told him you'll be back on mybirthday weed eating and I'm
not going to be much helpbecause I'm probably going to be
doing.
Ah, no problem, no problem,yeah, yes, I hope you're doing
well on this Thursday.
Yeah, next week I'm lookingforward to Strawberry Music
Festival.
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Talked about that on one of theprevious podcasts.
I believe this is my 26thStrawberry Music Festival.
Four-day festival, just kind ofget away from everything,
unwind.
I love it, although I will bedoing podcasts from the music
festival as well, because I'llnever stop my podcast.
By the way, I'm also the hostof the Pat Wall Show on KPK
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Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM,1530 AM, and streaming live
everywhere on your free iHeartapp.
Speaking of this or speaking ofthat, I guess I have such
exciting news today that justcame out of nowhere.
You know I'm sitting heredebating whether or not to share
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this with you, but why not?
Why not?
When I say here on Pat's Peeps263, that this is big news and
exciting?
It is some of the more excitingnews that I've seen for my
business, which I keep wantingto tell you.
Please, you know, for this tocontinue, which I want it to, if
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you could, just, you know,check out patspeepscom.
I mean, heck, we're giving youexclusive deals and all that
we're trying to, as I'm alwaysharping on this supporting local
business.
Well, check this out.
Today I was out at lunch.
You know I'm always talkingabout Darlene with a Y because
she's a sweetheart.
She took me to lunch today formy birthday.
Darling with a Y, because she'sa sweetheart.
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She took me to lunch today formy birthday, and I'm sitting
there and I get these messagesfrom my boss at work.
Bill Bill is a good man and thefirst one I get.
I was excited about thatbecause I've been wanting to
take my radio show on the road,like I've done with my podcast.
Whether it's Italy or Irelandor wherever we go, I take the
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podcast on the road with me.
I've been wanting to do thatwith my radio show.
So, in regards to that, I getthis first message and he's not
going to mind that I share thiswith you check the state fair
for you to do your show fromthere one day.
And I thought, oh great,because it used to be kind of a
deal, it was kind of tough to go, maybe do a show on the road
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somewhere.
Now he's all about it, and soam I, to get out and do remote
things with my show.
That is beautiful.
That's exactly what I'm lookingforward to Before I even go any
further on this.
I need to just pause on thatjust momentarily before I get to
this really good news, becauseI have other good news.
Happy birthday to Dan Knapp, mypal, my, and to Tony Cox, two of
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my very best friends in theworld, celebrating their
birthdays today.
Dan Knapp, red Hot Media MediaProductions.
I promise you, if you'relistening to me and you're a
business and you need a websiteand you need it for a really
good price, like a special deal,red Hot Media Productions,
please talk to Dan.
It's his birthday today.
You don't have to call himtoday, but you can find him
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right at our website at Pat'sPeeps.
He's part of my little dreamteam that helped me put this
together.
Happy birthday, danny boy.
Oh, danny boy.
Tony Cox, legendary radio.
Tony Cox used to be on K-R-O-Yand so many other stations.
Hi, tony Cox.
You know, tony and I have beenfriends for years and years and
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it's Tony's birthday.
Tony, one of the most talenteddudes I know, voiceover guy,
just loyal friend.
He and his sister Diane and herhusband Darcy took us to lunch
the other day.
Just, thank you so much.
Happy birthday to you guys andto Rick, who I miss so much, who
was born one day before me inthis world and is no longer with
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us.
I miss you, rick.
It is his birthday today aswell, mine tomorrow, all right.
So, because it's mine tomorrow,this was like, really like the
greatest birthday gift.
So, the first one check in witha state fair and see if we can
do your show there one day.
And I'm thinking, yeah, let's dothat.
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Second message from my bosshere on this Thursday, may 15th
2025, pat's Peeps 263.
He says we're checking with,we'll let you know.
So, in other words, we'rechecking with the fair, we're
going to set it up for me.
Then came the best messages ofall.
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Right here, verbatim Now thisis my boss at work, can call it
a quote Pat's Peeps Gathering atthe California State Fair.
I didn't even ask them, theycame up with this.
Do you know what that means?
And then, okay, I'm looking.
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I said what Really?
Because then I can go on theair and I can say hey, it's the
Pats Peeps gathering at theState Fair and I can invite all
of you, I can invite my radiolisteners.
And so I got really excitedabout it.
It's a big deal.
Kmpk is no joke.
Kmpk is the flamethrower 50,000watt.
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It is a heritage radio stationthat I work at and they, you
know their signal is enormous.
Plus, it's 93.1 FM.
Plus they stream everywhere onthe iHeart app.
So got really excited.
I thought, well, this is abeautiful, beautiful opportunity
for my business.
Then came the next one.
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We could do a series of PatsPeeps gathering broadcasts.
Something to ponder.
I said hell yes, are youkidding me?
So what does that do?
That?
That opens up the door.
Like I said, I can imaginepromos playing all over the
radio stations.
It's the Pats, peeps gatheringwhere we invite you, we gather
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together, you know, and we do ashow and we celebrate local.
Oh man, when I say do a show,I've been trying to tell people
on my radio show.
No, we're not just going to sitthere and bore the heck out of
you just talking about.
Tell me about when you wereinterested as a plumber.
No, not all of that stuff.
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I mean, you'll know about thebusinesses, but we do wacky
stuff.
We keep it fun.
We're not doing infomercials,we're just doing a radio show.
Big difference I'm doing aradio show like I'm doing right
now, but these businessesdeserve to have people go and
you deserve to get great deals.
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So why not do this?
We'll keep the podcast fun anddifferent, but that's huge news.
Oh boy, that's like a birthdaypresent in itself.
So thank you to Bill forthinking about that and thank
you for the support there atKFBK Radio Much, much
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appreciated.
Let's see what else do I havetoday?
You know some things I just amso hesitant to talk about.
This is probably one of them.
No, it is one of them, you know, with my friend's birthdays
today, you know mine tomorrow itis.
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I ponder.
This has always been taboo forme to talk about.
But whatever you know, I guessI got to call myself an oldster.
Now, you know, dwelling on that, this one's hard for me.
This one's hard for me,especially when you're talking
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about a person who feels like,honestly and I mentioned it
before I feel like I'm.
I still feel like I'm a kid.
I mean, I still feel likegetting up watching cartoons,
getting my baseball mitt,getting on my Schwinn bike
tomorrow, you know, not talkingabout getting shingle shots,
geez, nowadays, you know, you'retalking with your friends.
Hey, how's it going, man?
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Oh, good, good, good.
What have you been up to?
Yeah, just working.
Yeah, me too, working.
What about the wife?
Oh, she's doing good, you know,whatever you meet anyone?
No, whatever, you know whatever, whatever the case may be, talk
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about sports, maybe a littlemusic, what have you?
Pretty soon it drifts into yeah,hey, you want to come over and
watch the ball game.
Actually, we're going to go toa game on.
Let me just give you an example.
I'm just making this up, butthis would be like a
conversation you hear.
And now, at my age, uh, yeah,you want to go see the game.
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On what day is it?
Ah, may 21st, may 21st, let melook.
Oh geez, you know, getting ahip replacement that day, oh god
, oh god, this is one of myfavorites too.
This is one of my favorites.
I can't tell you how many timesthis conversation's come up.
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Oh man, Dreadin' Tuesday, why,what's up?
Tuesday?
Got a dang colonoscopy?
Oh God, yeah, you got to do it.
You know, yeah, I know.
Now you're talking aboutcolonoscopy.
Got a dang colonoscopy?
Oh god, yeah, you gotta do it.
You know, yeah, I know.
Now you're talking aboutcolonoscopies.
You think you're gonna talkabout that as a 14 year old?
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No, means you're old.
Think you're gonna talk aboutas a 24 year old?
Nope, 34, heck no.
But at some point it becomes apart of the guy and then it
always gets to the like.
But at some point it becomes apart of the car and then it
always gets to the like.
You know the worst part.
Yes, I know the worst part.
It's drinking the stuff thenight before.
I know, yeah, yeah, I know thewhole, all the gory details,
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whatever.
Here's another one man.
Did you get your shingle shot?
I hear those are really bad.
Yeah, no, I got my shingle shot.
I hear those are really bad.
Yeah, no, I got my shingle shot.
You know you gotta get thepneumonia shot.
I just pray to god like the oldman.
Voice doesn't kick in hello,hello.
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I, you know, I love the elderly.
I just don't want to be elderly.
You know, when people startlike wanting to walk you, boy
scouts want to walk you acrossthe street.
Do you need help, sir?
No, you, you know.
Suddenly you're hitting himover the head with the umbrella,
you know, like an old man ohGod, artie Johnson or whatever
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his name on laughing.
Very interesting.
So anyhow, yeah, I'm justtrying to deal with the thought
of this birthday, retirement age.
Oh my God, it's the one thingyou can't stop, father, thank
God, by the way.
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By the way, hey, I count myblessings, but you know what I
mean.
There's certain I can imaginethere's a birthday that we all
kind of wrestle with that oneBoy.
I wish I could wrestle with theturning 30 birthday again.
I can't believe I'm going to be30.
I remember contemplating.
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I was at Butte College, you know.
I didn't even start collegeuntil late.
I was straight.
I was 25 and a half when Idecided to go to college.
When I started college, youknow, and I thought, you know, I
didn't really know that muchabout college.
Maybe I go to college.
I'll go to this communitycollege.
I can do this.
You spend a couple of years,get yourself a degree.
I didn't know, really, becauseI never really given it much
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consideration because of thesituation I was in.
But, all right, what would anaa degree get you?
How do you earn?
What's the difference betweenan aa or or a, b, a or a bs or
whatever?
I became pretty good at the bspart, by the way.
I should have got a degree inthe bs part, full of it on pat's
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peeps 263 on all your streaming.
But I, I went to college,changed my life.
That's that whole story.
And yeah, I mean you know.
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And then, you, I kind of driftedoff.
I started thinking aboutsomething else right there and
kind of lost my train of thought.
Whatever, where was I talkingabout anyhow?
Oh, I kind of drifted off.
I started thinking aboutsomething else right there and
kind of lost my train of thought.
Whatever, where was I talkingabout Anyhow?
Oh, age-wise, oh, that's whatit was, you know.
Because I started thinkingabout like, okay, I'm doing
pretty good at Butte College,I'm doing pretty good, hey, wait
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a minute, I'm actually good atthis.
Then the next thing, you know, Istarted calculating ahead like,
wow, what if I could go toChico State and go to an actual
university and get like and nowthat I understand the degrees a
lot better, what if I could goget a bachelor's degree?
Ooh, you know, go docommunications, get a bachelor
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of arts in communications,communication, arts and sciences
, which is what I got, with anemphasis on instructional
technology and broadcasting.
And you know, and so I said,well, let's do it.
And I started calculating oh myGod, I'll be 30 years old, 30
years old, I'll be old if I do,if I do that.
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Oh god, little did I know.
That's why I find it soremarkable sometimes, you know,
when I hear because you know I'malways about to bring music
into any conversation I have.
So I find it remarkable thatPink Floyd you know a band that
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was in their 20s that they couldwrite a song that was written
from the perspective of you knowsomeone who was much, much
older than that.
Then one day you find 10 yearshave got behind you, no one told
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you when to run, you missed thestarting gun and to imagine
they could write those lyricswithout living this entire
lifetime to lead them to thosethoughts.
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And here they are, in their 20s.
I mean, to me that makes it amasterpiece, it makes it
absolutely brilliant and still,of course, I mean at least in my
estimation, you know one of thegreatest albums of all time.
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Well, my favorite rock album.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I do not own the
licensing to this Pink Floyd, I
just love you Trying to exposethe music, but listen to the
lyrics, sticking away themoments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours inan offhand way, picking around
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on a piece of ground in yourhometown Waiting for someone or
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something to show you the way.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
This just never, ever
gets old to me, that is.
It just doesn't get any betterthan that.
It's an absolute masterpiece,brilliant Gilmore, kick it in.
And yeah, I don't want to getin trouble playing that
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beautiful, beautiful song.
Too much of it.
But you get the point.
One of the things I saw theother day and I'm not going to,
I can't tie it into like, well,I bet I'm not going to go there,
but you do hear this.
At the end of so many livesyou'll hear this.
Not that I'm going anywhere,I'm doing fine.
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I'm not down about my birthday.
I want you to know that.
I promise you I'm not downabout my birthday.
I want you to know that.
I promise you I'm not.
I'm actually going to enjoy mybirthday very much.
I'm going to have a good time.
I don't know what I'm going todo, but I'm going to have a
great time and I look forward toit.
You know it's just kind of hardto believe.
Let me get to a certain age.
But the other day took me tolunch.
Took well, it was actuallyDarcy and Diane, his sister took
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us to lunch.
All the birthday fellas there.
On the way out of the business,the Yard House downtown
Sacramento we ran into thisgroup of gentlemen, the
Sacramento Firefighters Pipesand Drums honoring fallen
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brothers and sisters throughtraditional Celtic music.
You can go to sffpdorg to seethem, sffpdorg to see them,
pdorg to see them.
And I thought that I would giveyou a little example of this
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group.
Let's see here, let's see if Ican do this for you.
After all of that, here we go,here we go here we go, the
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Sacramento Firefighters Pipesand Drums non-profit
organization dedicated tohonoring the fallen brothers and
sisters through traditionalCeltic music.
As I mentioned, they travel thecountry playing at events
funerals, graduations, change ofcommand ceremonies, charitable
functions, holiday celebrationsand they are funded through
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donations and the band membersare sworn active or retired
public safety employees from theSacramento Fire Department.
Sacramento Metropolitan FireDepartment.
Consumers Fire Department.
Contra Costa Fire Department.
El Dorado County FireProtection District.
Hayward Fire Department.
Pinole Fire Department,monterey, stockton, vacaville,
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elk Grove my hometown, thepolice department there.
San Francisco, placer CountySheriff's Office.
San Ramon FD.
Lodi FD.
El Dorado County DistrictAttorney's Office.
Thank you for what you do hereon Pat's Peeps 263.
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That was really awesome to seethose guys doing that.
That stuff always gets me firedup.
That, for whatever reason, thatstuff really gets me fired up.
Speaking of fired up, this willbe a shorter podcast today.
Pat's Peeps 263.
For those of you, breathing asigh of relief, thank you very
much for that.
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All right, all right.
Sometimes I can go on and on,right.
By the way, I'm drinking watertoday from my hams beer glass
vintage.
This thing is straight out ofthe 60s, since 1865.
Wow, that's the same year thatPresident Lincoln was
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assassinated.
Ham's Beer, like I said, that'sprobably mid-60s, this glass
right here, speaking of the 60s,I pulled a record from.
I plucked a record from my rarerecord collection today, my
rare 45 collection and this cameout February 24th 1969.
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It's a song written by ShelSilverstein, made famous by.
Well, I'll hold that backmomentarily.
The song was recorded liveFebruary 24th of 69 at this
concert.
The song was recorded liveFebruary 24th of 69 at this
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concert.
Performed the song with comicalvariations on the original
performance in December of 69 atMadison Square Garden.
The live version of this cameto be the biggest hit on the
Billboard Hot 100 chart and itwas this artist's only top 10
single in the top 100.
He spent this spent three weeksat number two in 1969, held out
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of the top spot by honky tonkwomen, by the rolling stones how
about that?
Some good trivia right there.
This track also topping thebillboard hot country songs.
It topped the easy listeningcharts that same year and was
certified gold august 14th of 69, and I remember this being
played on the radio all the time.
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Like I mentioned, uh, tony cox,my friend who's having a
birthday today, k-r-o-y, theyplay this song.
They'd mix it up with this, youmight hear this song and then
you might hear somethingcompletely different.
Like you know, um, you knowaverage white band or something
or cool in the gang.
Excuse me Now song tells a taleof a young man's quest for
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revenge on a father whoabandoned him you know where I'm
going with this Whose onlycontribution to his entire life
was giving him a guitar andnaming him Sue.
And naming him Sue.
Can you imagine a boy named Sue, made famous by the great
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Johnny Cash from the album Liveat San Quentin Prison?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, my daddy left
home when I was three and he
didn't leave much to maw and me,just this old guitar and an
empty bottle of booze.
Now I don't blame him becausehe run and hid, but the meanest
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thing that he ever did was,before he left, he went and
named me Sue.
Well, he must have thought thatit was quite a joke and it got
a lot of laughs from lots offolks.
Seems I had to fight my wholelife through.
Some gal would giggle and I'dget red, and some guy'd laugh
and I'd bust his head.
I'll tell you, life ain't easyfor a boy named Sue.
Well, I grew up quick and Igrew up mean.
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My fists got hard, my wits gotkeen, roamed from town to town
to hide my shame.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You know, when you
think about this song, a boy
named Sue Johnny Cash.
It has this unusual A-A-B-C-C-Brhyme scheme.
It's broken only to mark themidpoint and the end of the song
, and the song's performedmostly in the speech-like style,
sort of like a talking blues,obviously not singing.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But I made me a vow
to the moon and stars I'd search
the honky-tonks and bars andkill that man that gave me that
awful name.
Well, it was Gatlinburg inmid-July and I'd just hit town
and my throat was dry.
I thought I'd stop and havemyself a brew At an old saloon
on a street of mud.
There at a table dealing studsuch a dirty, mangy dog that
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named me Sue.
Well, I knew that snake was myown sweet dad from a worn out
picture that my mother had had,and I knew that scar on his
cheek and his evil eye.
He was big and bent and grayand old and I looked at him and
my blood ran cold and I said myname is Sue.
How do you do?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
so when you're
listening to this song I love
how it gets worked up.
The term son of a bitch, in theline I'm the son of a bitch and
name you Sue, was bleeped outin the Johnny Cash version, both
on the single and on the SanQuentin album.
The final line was also editedto remove the word damn.
Both the unedited versions areavailable on various albums,
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compilations, et cetera.
The term son of a bitch wasedited, son of a gun or
altogether bleeped out With someversions, or in some of the
versions it was just altogetherbleeped out.
I thought I told him.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, I hit him hard
right between the eyes and he
went down but, to my surprise,come up with a knife and cut off
a piece of my ear.
Well, I busted a chair rightacross his teeth and we crashed
through the wall and into thestreet, kicking and a-gouging in
the mud and the blood and thebeard.
I tell you I fought tougher men, but I really can't remember
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when he kicked like a mule andhe bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then Iheard him cuss and he went for
his gun and I pulled mine first.
He stood there looking at meand I saw him smile.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Anyhow.
Yeah, I'm going to get to theend of this.
I don't want to get anyoneupset at me.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I threw down my gun
and called him a pawn.
He called me a son.
Here you go Bit me eye becauseI'm the All right.
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Here's that line.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Leaped it right out,
didn't they?
Yeah, thanks for listening.
Have a great Thursday.
I'll see you on.
The next Pat's Peeps Could betomorrow, could be the birthday
podcast.
Happy birthday, tony.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Happy birthday.
Dan See you on the radio.