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June 9, 2025 32 mins

Sometimes the most memorable moments emerge when we're at our lowest. In this unexpectedly powerful episode, I push through illness to address critical issues demanding attention—proving that passion can overcome physical discomfort when there's something important to say.

The streets of Los Angeles have become battlegrounds as anti-immigration protests spiral into chaos. I dive into the disturbing reality of protesters damaging police vehicles, blocking freeways, and waving foreign flags while officials like Maxine Waters confront ICE agents instead of maintaining order. Most concerning is Governor Newsom's response—threatening legal action against the Trump administration for deploying the National Guard and boldly declaring "Come arrest me." This disconnect between political posturing and public safety demands scrutiny, especially as city infrastructure faces vandalism and destruction.

On a more somber note, we lost a musical pioneer with the passing of Sly Stone at 82. I celebrate the Vallejo, California native who revolutionized funk and soul music by blending psychedelic rock, gospel, and unifying social messages. Through classic tracks like "Thank You For Letting Me Be Myself," "Family Affair," and "Everyday People," we explore how Sly created a unique sound that remains timeless decades later. The episode features rare audio of Sly's early career as a KSOL radio DJ and examines how drugs and personal struggles ultimately led to his band's dissolution despite their groundbreaking success.

What stories make you push through discomfort to speak your truth? Share your thoughts and join me tomorrow for episode 279, hopefully with a bit more energy but certainly with the same dedication to addressing what matters most.

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
welcome.
Hey, it's the pat's BeachPodcast, number 278.
The podcast 278, the podcastthat almost did not get done.
My friends, I'll be honest withyou.
But as I look out my studiowindows into the beautiful
foothills of Northern Californiaon this Monday, it is a

(00:43):
beautiful day.
I think it's hot.
I haven't been outside muchtoday.
I don't know, I never say this,but this is everyday life.
Rarely do I say this.
I guess I can't say never, buttoday, just, I don't know what,
woke up not feeling too swift.
I don't know what the heck If Igot food poisoning, I don't

(01:07):
know, I'm not a huge drinker oranything, so it wasn't that I
don't know.
Doesn't feel like the flu, Ireally don't know.
But I knew as soon as I woke uphere on this Monday of all days
that I didn't feel too good andI was not going to do this
podcast, to be honest with you.
But I'm a pretty dedicated guy.

(01:28):
I don't have the flu, so Idon't know what it is, but I'm
just gonna.
I'm gonna for John because Ihave a couple of things that I
want to talk about.
If it hadn't been for thesecouple of things, I probably
would have said yeah, I'm goingto skip one day and I also
called in sick for work tonight.

(01:52):
My name is Pat Walsh, by the way, in case you don't know, I host
the Pat Walsh Show, heard onKFBK Radio in Sacramento, 93.1
FM 1530 AM.
Excuse me, yeah, I'm just ugh.
Anyhow, and yeah, I woke upfeeling lousy, but then there's

(02:13):
a couple of lousy things goingon and I just needed to talk
about it.
That's the thing about doing ashow every day.
It's like you don't really wantto miss a certain thing when
you see it.
There are days where there'snothing really big to talk about
, spectacular, and nothing thatreally catches my attention, but
every day I will find something, that eventually I'll find

(02:36):
something.
And then other days, like this,there's just days where you
have to talk about it and uh, totalk about it and uh.
So this is one of those.
Okay, one of the things is theidiocy is that a word?
Going on in la with theseprotests, these anti-immigration

(03:00):
, illegal immigration protests,where you have these people who
are now criminals standing on onthe overpasses and such and
smashing out police car windowsand creating all kinds of havoc
there in Los Angeles, just doingwhatever they feel like, waving

(03:23):
Mexican flags because they wantto stay in America and these
people who are joining theforces there and are fighting
and protesting with police.
I love it, kamala Harris, theseare peaceful protests.
Yeah, maxine Waters getting hernose stuck out of joint, trying

(03:45):
to demand that she goes andspeaks to ICE.
Ice is there deporting thesepeople who are there illegally.
You know, this is why I didn'twant to jump into the fray today
on this stuff, because I did,but I didn't because my blood
pressure is going to go up and Ialready don't feel well and
this is sickening.
What I'm seeing, and even moresickening, or just as sickening,

(04:05):
is when you have stories whereallegedly allegedly I don't know
if it's true Karen Bass, themayor, telling people you know
the police not to be involvedthere.
Well, I did see the police carsout there, so I'm not exactly
sure you can't find a lot onthat, so I'm not going to
elaborate too much on that.

(04:26):
But I did see Maxine Waters outthere shouting at the armed
agents during the riots,shouting at ICE as people are
rioting, as people areassaulting officers, as people
are burning flags and defacingproperties.
You got this woman out there,maxine Waters.
Remember she instigated riotsin Minneapolis?

(04:47):
Remember she was in front ofher constituents.
You confront them at the gasstation, at the grocery store.
You confront them, people youdisagree with, get right in
their face.
Remember this you got to bekidding me.
Now here she is doing this.
To be kidding me.

(05:07):
Now here she is doing this.
She's taking on the ice agentsand the police, rather than
speaking up for the city, inwhich is we've already seen, you
know it burned recently.
It was awful, the fire that wasin LA.
Now, this kind of madness whereit's just oh and so you got
Maxine Waters who's gonna go outthere and and and back.

(05:29):
The people who are rioting anddoing all these things that I
just mentioned assaultingofficers, burning flags and the
like, putting graffitieverywhere you've seen it
blocking freeways, setting carson fire, bashing out police
windows, all of that.
So Trump brings in the NationalGuard.

(05:49):
What are you supposed to do?
Yeah, do you want these?
Look, as far as I'm concerned,if you're doing this, you round
them all up, tom Holman, and youget them the hell out of here.
But no, no, no, no, not whenyou have this A-wipe, sorry.
No, not when you have thisA-wipe, sorry, gavin Newsom.
I'm so sick and tired of thispathetic dude.
Look, I'm just being honest.

(06:11):
I don't feel well.
I'm not chipper about this, I'mnot in a bad mood, but this
stuff is the country.
Better, listen to this.
Here he is telling us how he'sso concerned about his community
.
We all know that's a joke, mostof us do, and somehow we keep

(06:31):
voting for this guy.
The main reason the gas pricesare about to shoot through the
roof with their little mandate.
Same person that taxes you andis giving free Medicare to
illegals, undocumented people,in this country, while you and I
don't get that benefit.
Same person who can't seem tomanage the forest, so we have

(06:56):
wildfires.
These are old stories, butlisten to this guy today.
This is from KTla5 ktla5 in losangeles.
This is just it's sickening.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
The governor is here.
He's been in town for quitesome time and tonight he's
saying that he's going to file alawsuit against the trump
administration over its decisionto deploy the california
national guard without hisapproval.
Now the governor spoke withmsnbc.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
He's going to file a lawsuit because trump deployed
the national guard without hisapproval.
Now the governor spoke withMSNBC.
He's going to file a lawsuitbecause Trump deployed the
National Guard without hisapproval.
So, in the midst of Los Angelesburning a couple of months ago,
in the midst of the rioting bypeople who are waving Mexican
flags in our country and actingin the way I just told you and
they're not all Mexicans there'sother criminals involved in

(07:45):
this whole chaos as well.
Now Newsom, who wants to spendmore money on the homeless while
the homeless populationcontinues to grow.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Now he wants to sue Trump because he deployed the
national card earlier thisevening where he called on the
white house to change theircourse.
Listen to this.
Look, I have a feeling there'sa pretty good chance that in the
white house there might be atelevision on and he might be
watching us.
I hope so right now yeah, hecan learn something yeah, we can

(08:16):
learn something.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, we can learn something.
Look, hey, rest of the country.
Gavin, with his styled,freaking hair, said we could
learn something Learn how to letpeople get away with creating
havoc and chaos in a city.
So let's all watch together.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I might just say to him I'll give you the floor.
You have the opportunity.
You weren't able to say to himon that phone call or calls that
he hasn't taken today.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, where's your decency, mr President?
Where's your decency?
Stop, stop, rescind this order.
It's illegal andunconstitutional.
I said it, I'll say it againit's immoral.
You're creating the conditionsthat you claim you're solving
and you're not, and you'reputting real people's lives at
risk.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, you're putting people's lives at risk.
You, Gavin Newsom, are creatingthis.
Gavin, you will never.
I know you got a podcast now.
I know I'm just a talk showhost.
I dare you, I dare you todebate me on these topics, Dare

(09:19):
you?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
This is a serious moment and it requires serious
leadership.
Yes, it does to be acommander-in-chief of the united
states of america and I willhave your back if you want to
work in a relationship of trustand truth.
You'll have his back in thespirit right after the lawsuit
of our founding fathers.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
But you, spirit of our founding fathers, the spirit
of our founding fathers yep,that's what they want.
The spirit of our foundingfathers, attacking police,
taking over cities, stomping oncars, waving the mexican flags,
wearing masks yes, looting, yes,gavin, our founding fathers

(10:04):
after poor kids.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You come after family .
Come.
Come after poor kids, you comeafter families.
We will do everything in ourpower to stand up and stand in
your way, will ya?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
oh will ya?
We've got to get this guy outof here.
You know, in that clip hedidn't even say it.
I'm trying to get to where hesays it.
Where is he saying I want tohear him say come and arrest me.
I don't know, they didn't getto where he says it.
Where is he saying it?
I want to hear him say come andarrest me.
I don't know, they didn't getto it there.
They left that one outconveniently.
I wonder why they left that oneout at KTLA.
Hmm, he told me he said come.

(10:39):
He didn't tell me yeah yeah,yeah, I want to hear him say it.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Come after me.
Here we go, here we go.
The fear, the horror, the hellis this guy?
Come after me, arrest me.
Let's just get it over with,okay.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Anyone know the number for the local PD?
Come after me, let's get itover with.
What was that again?
Huh, come after me, let's getit over with the emergency yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, come after me,let's get it over with.
Oh my god, sometimes I feel likethings.
People are insane in thegovernment here, particularly I.

(11:19):
I really do.
It's always okay.
He always has a reason whypeople are allowed to stop
traffic and freeway and freewaysand and riot.
Same thing with maxine waters.
You remember, we all rememberminneapolis, anyhow.
Um, I'm gonna bring that up onmy show tonight.

(11:40):
That's what what I'm going todo.
Bring that up on my show On thePat Walsh show.
Hope you can listen at 7 pm.
That way I can get your take ona lot of this.
All right, I would like yourtake on this Now.
The other thing today I was sadabout this is that Sly Stone

(12:05):
has passed away.
Sly Stone, sly Stone, sly of Slyand the Family Stone was 82.
This guy was funky man.
He was a pioneering musician interms of funk and soul.
He had rock, but he had varyingstyles, but he had a very

(12:31):
unique sound.
But he had a very unique soundand after a prolonged battle
with COPD and some otherunderlying health issues, sly
passed away With his group, slyand the Family Stone.
He tied together soul,psychedelic rock, gospel and he

(12:57):
could create these upliftingsongs and they all had this very
unique feel to them, veryunique sound.
It's hard to describe some of myfavorites.
I'll play a couple of excerptsfrom those.
But something that set himapart.
You know how Bo Diddley had hisown Bo Diddley beat, bo Did,
but something that set him apart.
You know Bo Diddley had his ownBo Diddley beat.
Bo Diddley beat set him apart.

(13:19):
Sly had something like that.
Stevie Wonder had something inthere where he had that
synthesizer and superstition andboogie on reggae woman and you
know I wish, and all of thoseearly songs.
But yeah, sly Stone, along withJames Brown and others I mean

(13:41):
these were the big funk playersin the 70s which I'm a huge fan
of.
I love funk.
Funk to me is timeless.
Most of it is timeless.
You could listen to it now.
It doesn't seem too outdated,whereas some of the old rap

(14:02):
maybe does you know?
Um, he had songs like thank you, you know, and I loved how he
would do.
He would have like, uh, hewould mix his song titles into.
I don't know what you wouldcall that, but for instance the
song Thank you, let's see Thankyou For Letting Me Be Myself,

(14:29):
but it would be spelled out like.
Thank you For Letting Me youknow F-A-L.
I was looking for letting meyou know F-A-L.
I was looking for the spellingF-A-L-E-T-T-I-N-M-E.
Thank you for letting me.
And then it wouldF again A-G-N.
So that was pretty clever.

(15:05):
But the song was funky.
Fingers start shaking.
I can't run.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Bullets start chasing .
I'd be good to stop.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Fast forwarded to where they sing that line.
Thank you for letting me bemyself.
That's a cool tune, though Skipon in the palace May have
skipped it.
Be my, there we go.
Thank you for letting me bemyself.
That's a cool tune, though Imay have skipped it.
There we go.
I love that bass.

(15:50):
So good.
Be myself again.
So good.
Another one that Sly did.
This was always just such agreat song.
This was always one of my veryfavorites by Sly and the Family

(16:11):
Stone Got played on the radioall the time.
This has that sound.
It's kind of a subtle, justit's the family affair.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's the family affair.
It's the family affair.
It's the family affair.
One child grows up to beSomebody that just loves to
learn.

(16:42):
Another child grows up to beSomebody you just love to burn.
Mom loves the, both of them.
You see, it's in the blood.
Both kids are good and bound.

(17:05):
Blood's thicker than the mud.
It's a family affair.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's a family affair Got played on the radio all the
time All the time.
By's the family affair All thetime.
By the way, when you listen toSly, I was talking about how
much I love the bass player, ifyou listen to.
Thank you For Letting Me BeMyself.
We were just listening to thatone, just listening to that I

(17:36):
mentioned I like the bass.
I did want to mention that thatis Larry Graham playing the
bass, who is known as one of thegreat bass players of all time.
All night long, everyday,people Sing the simple song.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Mama's so happy, mama starts to cry.
Papa's still singing.
Can't make you get tired.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, he's got that signature bass sound, larry
Graham, you know.
By the way, Sly Stone was fromVallejo, california, right here
in Northern California.
Yeah, they tied together thatsoul, that psychedelic rock.
They had, well, everyday People.
That was a huge hit for them.

(18:37):
You know, it was kind of it wasvery upbeat.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
You know, I just love that there is a blue one who
can't accept a green one forliving with a fat one trying to
be a skinny one.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I just love that.
You know different strokes fordifferent folks.
Scooby-dooby-doo.
We got to live together andyeah, that was a good upbeat
message in that song.
You know he fell on hard timeslater in his life.

(19:43):
Sly did.
There's another song I want toplay by him coming up, the one
that I always think of that.
I'm sure no one else.
I don't know how many people dothink of it, but it's always
been one of my favorites.
It was not a hit and there'ssomething very unique about it.

(20:04):
By the way, sly and the FamilyStone performed at Woodstock as
well.
They took the stage in theearly morning hours of August
17th 1969.
The set was widely consideredone of the most powerful
performances of the festival.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
They played.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I Want to Take you, and here's the radio ad.
I think this is 1967.
I think this is a Hera.
I think this is Hera.
I think this is a Hera, I thinkthis is Hera.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
Let's see Sly and the Family Stone.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
And the end.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
You'll still be you.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
One that's done all the things you'll set out to do.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
And Spirit.
Wow, that's right.
Squack Productions announcesanother in its series of rock
extravaganzas Sly and the Family, stone and Spirit together on
the same bill, saturday night,may 17th at Dayton's Hera Arena.

(21:38):
The day after my birthdayTickets at $3.50, 550 are on
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Sly and the family stone andspirit saturday night, may 17th,

(22:06):
at dayton's harrah arena.
It's going to be benigninsanity another eruption from
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this country needs is a biggerand better rock concert exactly,
wow, and you know, uh, this iswhat's very, uh much of interest
to me is that sly was also aradio dj at ksol radio.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Uh, so how about a little sly stone on the radio,
since radio is near and dear tomy heart?

Speaker 7 (22:35):
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(23:00):
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Speaker 5 (23:01):
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Speaker 5 (24:30):
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Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, wow, wow, love that era.
So as Sly and the Family Stonegot more and more successful,
problems started up with theband.
Relationships within the bandwere deteriorating.
I just mentioned Larry Grahamon that unique slappy bass.

(25:38):
There was particularly frictionbetween him and the Stone
Brothers by the way it used tobe, the original name was Sly
and the Stoners.
But even Epic Records requestedmore of a marketable output.

(25:59):
The Black Panther Partydemanded that Sly Stone make his
music more militant, morereflective of the black power
movement.
He's just singing unitingpeople.

(26:23):
They became very heavy intodrugs, stone and his bandmates,
in 1969, after moving to LA,particularly cocaine and PCP of
all things.
That became the focus.
Unfortunately, sly Stone at onepoint actually carried around a
violin case filled with illegaldrugs wherever he went.

(26:46):
And then, between summer of 67and fall of 71, the recording of
the band started to well.
Prior to that it started toslow down.
I should say Between 69 and 71,they released just one single,
which was Thank you for Let MeBe Myself and everybody's a star

(27:08):
.
But then, you know, and thenagain, larry Graham, it
showcased Larry Graham'sslapping bass technique.
And then again, larry Graham,it showcased Larry Graham's
slapping bass technique and hedeveloped this technique he once
said in an earlier band, inorder to compensate for the
band's lack of a drummer, and hekept that style which has

(27:28):
become legendary so.
But then drugs start to take a,take their toll within the band
and then sly kind of goes offthe deep end, unfortunately, and

(27:53):
the band just breaks up.
You know, it just breaks up,breaks up by the mid-70s.
Sly Stone's drug use, hiserratic behavior, basically just
ended the group and it justkind of came to an end, left him
to record several unsuccessfulsolo albums.
He did collaborate with, likeParliament, funkadelic with, I

(28:17):
think, bobby Womack.
He was inducted to the Rock andRoll Hall of Fame In 1971, he
released the record there's ariot going on and that album I
had.

(28:38):
I was a little kid and I wasalready digging Sly and the
Family Stone and this album Iremember it had a excuse me, it
had a flag, american flag.
It had, oh God, family Affairwas on that one Anyhow, but it

(29:04):
had this song on here that Ialways gravitated towards and it
is the only song.
It's a deep cut on this recordand it's the only song and it
really displays Sly's sound,this very unique sound, at least
in my mind it does.
But it's the only kind of rock,funkadelic, psychedelic soul

(29:28):
song that I'm aware of where italso includes yodeling.
You don't hear a lot ofyodeling in funk and psychedelic
funk and soul.
Listen to Larry Graham on thebass, here you go, and listen to
Sly Stone's words.
You can barely you just kind of.
It's called Spaced Cowboy,that's Peeps 278.

(30:49):
Thank you.
I love that.
Everything I like is nice.
That's why I have to have ittwice.
Well, once I saw a boy, it wasa social war.
I still dig this tune man, Ihad a man.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
He tried to pass around out of the film.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Thank you for listening to my podcast.
I hope I feel better.
I'll be on the radio tonight,maybe Possibly.
All right, get all fired upagain.
See you on the next one, whichwill be hopefully tomorrow, past
Peeps 279.
Until then, see you on theradio, thank you.
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