We dive into the wild world of radio rebels and broadcasting drama, featuring legendary moments when DJs dared to break format and face the consequences.
• Sharing personal encounters with legends like Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, and Larry King
• Examining what happens when social media posts trigger unexpected backlash from former colleagues
• Playing Al Barry's satirical political animation poking fun at politicians and representation
• Featuring the infamous Phil Hendry prank call that puts Larry King against a tearful radio station manager
• Showcasing Coyote J Calhoun's 1988 on-air rebellion against corporate radio formats that ended with him being physically removed from the studio
• Highlighting the tension between artistic expression and commercial programming that has defined radio for decades
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
good morning, that's right, it's morning.
How are you?
This is patrick and this isPat's Peeps Podcast.
We're at number 279 on thisTuesday, 10th day of June.
Oh, it's my friend's birthday,my friend Keith's birthday, my
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longest tenured friend, keithWelch.
Happy birthday, keith.
Oh my gosh, I gotta get a holdof Keith.
I just realized that, keith, Ishould tell you this.
I just thought about that.
I should tell you the story ofhow I met Keith Welch.
Anyhow, it is a Tuesday, happyTuesday.
Thank you for being a part ofthe Pat's Peeps podcast.
(00:57):
I've got morning voice right now.
I'm doing this earlier in themorning than I usually do, as I
today, will you know.
Actually, I guess I'll be doingtwo podcasts.
I guess I'll be doing twopodcasts today One, this one and
then the other one.
I have a meeting today where Iam going to have a conversation.
(01:22):
If you recall, way back in oneof the previous podcasts I did I
don't recall which one I hadinterviewed two of these
charming 100-plus-year-old womenbecause we wanted to hear their
stories and they weredelightful.
So today it's the men's turn.
Today I'll be later oninterviewing two 100 plus year
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old men, as I understand it, andthen I'll release that podcast
tomorrow.
This is I'm kind of gettingbacked up on my podcast, because
tomorrow I already have apodcast lined up which will be
for that.
I don't know, I just I have somany podcasts going on.
This is 279.
By the way, as I peer out mystudio window today into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia, I can tell you it's
(02:11):
going to be a hot day.
Very little breeze, slightbreeze, but it's warmer today.
I like the hot temps.
I probably mentioned that a fewtimes.
You know me, I'm always tryingto do something a little bit
different on my podcast, andtoday is no different.
Let's see, I had a couple ofthings I wanted to really get
(02:34):
into before I started this one.
Geez, see, now I'm gonna forgetwhat it was, what it was, oh, I
, oh, just an update.
I'm feeling better than I wasyesterday.
I'm feeling better.
Yesterday I was kind of underthe weather, so I was not
feeling great.
I didn't feel, feel terrible,and you know, then it was so
(02:57):
don't hey, guess what.
There's covid going aroundagain.
Well, I don't know what it was.
I still don't feel 100 maybe,but I feel good enough to
broadcast and that's a very goodsign.
Well, I don't know what it was.
I still don't feel 100% maybe,but I feel good enough to
broadcast and that's a very goodsign.
Let's see what else you know.
Oh God, yeah, I'm not evengoing to get into that.
Maybe I'll get into that.
On my show tonight I was goingto say you know, you say
(03:21):
something on Facebook.
Man, don't ever I never postanything political on Facebook.
I'm very neutral, I'm very.
I just don't want to get intothe fray.
I don't want the ugliness on myFacebook page.
If I do put anything politicalon there unless I'm really
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peeved, by the way, which I wasyesterday could have done way,
way more than what I actuallydid, but all I did was simply
ask a question.
Did Gavin Newsom really say youknow, come on, tough guy, come
and arrest me, let's get it overwith a paraphrasing?
That's all I said.
Did he say that?
And you should see the vitriol,you should see the comments.
And a former co-worker of mineand if you're listening, you
(04:03):
know who you are Former anchorof my radio station I work for,
by the way, I'm also the host ofthe Pat Walsh Show, kfpk Radio
in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
I posted that and then I got aprivate message from a gentleman
who I used to work with forseveral years and I'm not going
(04:25):
to say who it is, necessarilybecause I didn't tell him.
I would say this, I wasn't evenreally thinking about it.
But he comes back at me in aprivate message with his opinion
, which is okay, I don't mindopinions.
Heck, you want to be demeaningand you want to talk down to me.
That changes things.
(04:47):
You know I'll listen to youropinion, but once you start
getting demeaning and actinglike you know it all and other
people don't, that's where Ihave an issue.
All right, someone treating melike I'm stupid, believe me, you
do not want to debate me.
But if you do, it's the PatWalsh Show.
(05:10):
Monday through Friday, 7 to 10pm, anytime.
Anytime, please.
You are invited to debate me onthis topic that we were talking
about today.
All right, I'd love it, andthen we'll take phone calls to
debate me on this topic that wewere talking about today.
All right, I'd love it, andthen we'll take phone calls and
(05:32):
we'll see who won the debate.
I spoke to you, I didn't speakdown to you and I didn't preface
everything with.
Let me say this loud and clearyou know, just because you say,
let me say, preface everythingwith let me say this loud and
clear you know, just because yousay, let me say, preface
everything with let me say thisloud and clear Look, I like you,
dude, but quit coming at melike that.
I can hear you, I can read, Ican read, let me say this
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perfectly loud and clear Whoa,okay, okay, clear, whoa, okay.
And then and then you getthings like you know, uh, in
2020, your fearless leader likewhat?
What are you talking about, bro?
Seriously, come on, man,lighten up.
(06:19):
Look, if you think it's cool tobash cars and defund police,
take over over cities with noconsequences and the leadership
in your state does zero and theyjust allow it to happen, that's
cool.
If that's what you think,vandalizing cities awesome man.
That's your opinion.
I'd sure hate to you know.
(06:40):
Try to persuade you in adifferent way, other than
thinking that criminalactivities are okay.
Smashing police cars, burningAmerican flags while you're
waving your Mexican flags, right, anyhow, dang on it.
I didn't want to get into that,but I was a little riled up this
morning.
That's why I took to the mic soearly, but I promised myself
(07:05):
that I would not get into that Ibroke my promise.
I have a couple of differentthings I want to get to.
Oh, I love this guy al barry oral barry, I guess this is.
He capitalizes both the a andthe l, so I'm never sure, but I
like his animated stuff.
I haven't seen this one, but Ido like what he does.
(07:26):
Here's Al Berry.
I guess Elizabeth Warren andHillary Clinton found the
Democratic Party's voice formasculinity.
I've not seen it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Elizabeth, the problem with the Democratic
Party is we've hated men for solong we forgot how to relate to
them.
Well, if men weren't such dumbpigs, it wouldn't be so hard.
And that's Elizabeth Warren.
Absolutely right.
Men are naturally racist,homophobic and misogynist.
It doesn't help that they'reinfluenced by Joe Rogan.
That's why we spent millions ofdollars finding our own Joe
Rogan, so we can communicatewith male voters again.
Olivia, come in.
(07:57):
This is Olivia Giuliana.
She's a plus-size queer Latinafeminist.
I guarantee nobody understandsmen better than she does.
My god, she's perfect.
Just by looking at her I cantell she's at least three times
more man than anyone else andshe can definitely speak their
language.
Oh yes, she understands menvery well.
Go ahead, olivia Show,elizabeth, hang on.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Me need catch breath Standing lots of exercise.
Men like female otter.
Men no want cut-off balls.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Wow, it's as if I'm talking to a man right now.
I suppose this means we'll haveto fire other representatives
of masculinity.
You mean Harry Sisson and DavidHogg.
I hate to say it, but you'reright.
If you weigh the options, davidand Harry aren't nearly as
masculine.
Alright, I'll go tell them thebad news.
Hi boys, ooh, it's ElizabethWarren.
Yeah, ooh, it's so good to seeyou, elizabeth.
(08:46):
There's no easy way to say this, but you two aren't the
masculine authorities.
We thought you were, ooh, butI'm 95 pounds of pure man.
That's a great point, david.
Unfortunately, we found 500pounds of pure man.
See for yourself.
Come here, olivia.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Show David and Harry what you showed me, me need rest
, man want hot dog, man want sitin Macy's and eat standing up.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh God, I'm just going to watch that all the time
now.
I love your animation, alAlbury.
Whoever you are, I need to findout where you are.
I need to get you on my show,brother.
That is awesome, man.
All right, this one comes.
So here's where it's going to bea little different today.
I'm going to play some longform.
I'm going to shut up for alittle bit, isn't that great.
(09:37):
I'm going to play some longform.
One of these, by the way, maybe a repeat or might be my first
rerun, but it is always so goodto revisit.
I can't remember if I did it onone of my early, early podcasts
, but I probably did.
But you know what Neverdisappoints?
It's like listening to a greatalbum again.
It never gets old.
(09:57):
So that'll be second up on thelist.
First, though, it comes fromTrent, who is one of the of, uh,
the folks listening to mypodcast or my show, or both.
Thank you, by the way, trent.
I greatly appreciate this.
This is phil hendry prank withlarry king.
(10:20):
It's kind of actually a prankafter Coach Don Shula, who led
the 72 Dolphins to an undefeatedseason.
After Don Shula retired, hereyou go.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I like it 11-29 at WIOD 6-10, WIOD.
The worst talk radio I've everheard in my life is on WIOD.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Larry King is with us on line three and I think
Larry's in Washington right now.
Andy, larry's in Washington.
We thought we'd bring Bob in toask Larry a couple of questions
.
We were all with interest toldabout some of the comments made
by Mr King to Don Shula over theweekend and of course, don
Shula retired last week as headcoach of the Miami Dolphins.
(11:04):
Bob Green is in studio with us.
Larry hello, larry.
Hi guys, how are you doingtoday week as head coach of the
miami dolphins?
Bob green is in studio with us.
Larry hello, larry.
Hi guys, how you doing today?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
super, I understand you're you're getting ready to
go to los angeles?
Yeah, the snow stopped.
Uh, after two and a half daysof being trapped, it it's all
blue skies now, but we got aboutthree feet on the ground, which
is, I think, there's a snowabsolutely snowing.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, every time I try to go to the midwest a lot,
every time I try to travel upthere, it's like every time New
York is shut down, the rest ofthe country gets shut down.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, well, everything is shut.
I mean, if anyone's listeningin Miami and they're flying to
the Northeast Larry, how youdoing?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Hi, larry, bob, green Bob, how are you, how you doing
today?
Fine, I wanted to take over alittle segment here of Phil's
show.
Were and and I mentioned thisto you when I called you
originally um, first of all,henry barrow sends his regards.
Not that I've talked to henrysince my man, henry.
Henry says he sends his regards, cheryl sends her regards to
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you.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's great.
Cheryl's still working there.
Yes, she is, my god she'll be.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
She'll get her social security there I'm not going to
tell her that.
Okay, I'm not going to tell herthat god, uh, we, uh, frankly,
larry, were a little bit takenaback I guess is the best way to
put it by comments you made toCoach Shula on your program.
My understanding was it wasFriday evening.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I was taken aback.
I had two different friendscall me on I think it was one
call Thursday night and one callFriday when it was learned that
Don was going to retire.
And they both said boy, haveyou heard your old radio station
?
I said no, I worked there 20years.
We're the only station ever todo the Dolphins.
And they said they're creamingthem to death.
(12:35):
What do you mean?
They're a society.
School maniacs are calling inand they're saying personal
things about them and they'revilifying them.
And there's a guy in themorning looking to knock him off
he should be out of coachingand he's too old and another guy
criticizing the way he looks.
So when I heard that from twodifferent people, what I said to
don was I heard that thestation I worked at and you
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worked at, because don and I dida show together every day on
wiod for right was rapping youand he said he hasn't all he
said well, I'm just finishing,I'm sorry.
Then he said he hadn't listenedto talk radio in two years, but
that he'd heard about it.
That's all.
So if I'm wrong, tell me whyI'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Well, first of all, we were not personally attacking
Coach Shula.
Certainly we do a talk showhere, as you do.
We have several.
What we did do and any talkshow would do, certainly
relative to a story of this kindof local import was invite our
listeners to call and voicetheir opinions.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The host had no personal opinions about the
coach.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Neil Rogers.
Quite frankly, if you'respeaking of Neil Rogers, or Rick
and Suds or any of the showshere, had nothing but the most
glowing things to say aboutCoach Shula in his retirement
Now, while he was coaching.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Hold on hold on hold on.
Neil Rogers had somethingglowing to say about someone.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Neil was on the day the retirement was announced.
Neil said nothing about I'mtalking about before the
retirement.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I'm talking about after the retirement.
The whole city applauded him.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I can assure you this , Larry.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
What about before?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
the retirement.
All right, I can assure youthere was nothing personal in
made by Neil Rogers.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
What kind of criticisms?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
were there.
That he had his coachingability begin to slump, that the
game perhaps was passing him by, that it was time to make room
for a coach and, as you know,the popularity of Jimmy Johnson
here is well known.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I wrote in my column three years ago that Jimmy was
going to come and coach Miamiand Jimmy told me that in Dallas
.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Phil Koston just says hi too.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He's in the other studio, Let and Jimmy told me
that in Dallas, phil Koston justsays hi too, he's in the other
studio.
Let me say this yes, there's away you can do it and a way you
cannot do it.
Now you can encourage callersto vilify.
I've been doing this a longtime.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I understand that I started.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I know that you were with our radio station for many
years, yeah, so I know how tocan storm up a crowd and the
people who told me I have faithin.
So you're telling me that NeilRogers praised him.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Larry, I would not even bother you, I wouldn't even
bother you with a phone callwhere I'm not talking about
after retirement Everybody jumpson the bandwagon that's below.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I'm talking about before Coach Shula announced his
retirement.
Were your callers personal orinsightful the callers.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Some of the callers may have been, some may have not
.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
When they were, what did you say to?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
them.
We got rid of them very quickly, to be perfectly honest with
you.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Many of them were dumped.
Your inciting calls were offthe air right away.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
They were off the air right away and I apologize to
Mr Rogers for his fairness.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Thank you To the rest of the staff and the two people
who told me must have been hereand thinking.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I got to tell you, larry, I take what I do very
seriously.
Hello, larry, bob's a littleemotional, I'm sorry.
I take what I do very seriouslyand to have our radio station
vilified, don Nash.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Now hold on one second, Bob, your station.
How long have?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
you been general manager.
Get Bob a glass of water orsomething.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
How long have you been general manager?
I've been here since 1992.
Okay, I was in Miami two yearsago.
The worst talk radio I've everheard in my life was on WIOD.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
The worst you see.
It's comments like that that Ithink are very unfair.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Do you want an opinion or not?
Do you think, neil?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Rogers is a good talk show host.
I think he's the best in thebusiness.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think he's the worst I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I think he's the best in the business.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
If you're crying because Neil Rogers has been
vilified, you've got a weirdcase going on.
Larry, could I jump in?
Why don't you go on, neil andcry with each other, All right.
Larry, could I jump in for aminute?
This is insane.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Well, I've got a general manager here who's
crying Bob if you can't handle,heard a worse station, all right
I think that's patently unfairof you and I would demand an
apology for that statement, forhaving an opinion, no, for for
saying that this is the worsttalk radio you've ever heard.
You know the influence that youhave over people it's the worst
talk radio I ever heard Idemand an apology for that
(16:37):
statement I will not give it toyou I demand an apology for that
statement.
I'll ask you again as agentleman what do you ask me to?
To apologize for vilifying aradio station that I put my
market soul to Larry'sexpressing an opinion.
Bob Shut up Phil Shut up Phil.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You can shut your mouth.
You're the general manager.
You're telling your host toshut up.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Bob, what I'm asking you to do is to please.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Hey guys, I don't think when WID written as class.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Who did you work with ?
This is an embarrassing thing.
Who did you work with?
Who did you work with?
I worked with Big Wilson.
Oh, he was terrible.
Goodbye Bob, he was absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Wait a second, I'm not going to talk to you no, but
wait a second, wait a minute.
On behalf of the Big Wilsonfamily, I demand an apology for
you.
Big Wilson passed away and youcalled him terrible.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
All right, so the kettle called the pot black.
Is that what it is?
You come on here, apologize tothe Wilson family, all right.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I apologize.
All right now.
What do you think of BillCalder?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Bill Calder was probably one of the best I ever
heard.
The great talent.
We did loads of things togetherhe was a terrific talent.
And, by the way, he was a veryclose friend of Neil Rogers, is
the preeminent radio talent inAmerica today.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
He's the worst talk show host I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I demand an apology.
No, I demand it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Bob, bob.
We can go back and forth onthis, bob.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
You don't even know your own station.
On behalf of the Rogers family.
Apologize, bob.
We can go back and forth withthis all the time.
What's that crack supposed tomean?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I apologize.
His mother is listening.
I apologize.
His mother is listening.
I apologize to Neil.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Rogers' wife.
What does that crack?
Suppose you said his family.
I'm talking about his mother.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He has relatives in this area.
I would tell his mother thatshe raised a son who's a
terrible talk show host.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Bob, either you can go on with this or you can't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Bob, you can keep going with this, I'm not going
to change my opinion.
I can't believe it, bob.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I can't believe it Well.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I can't Bob, listen, man, if you want to come on.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
He's like crying over here.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well, sorry Bob.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Hey Larry can I?
Just ask you a question herewhen do you think Coach Shula is
going to be going after this?
Do you think he's going to?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I think he's going to be vice president of operations
for the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
He's running the team .
Yeah, he's going to run theteam from that standpoint, but
do you think he might want toentertain any other coaching
possibilities?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know there's a rumor that Baltimore would ask
him.
I want an apology.
Bob shut up.
I don't believe he's thegeneral manager.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
You know what, at this point, neither do I.
He can't be general manager.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Are you still owned by cox?
Yes, we are owned by cox.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You know, I do, I do, I do charities for cox every
year and have made appearancesfor the cox people all over the
country have you raised money?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't thanks a lot, bob, so anyway, thanks again to
trent trent.
Awesome, please keep themcoming.
I definitely appreciate that.
I do love the uh listener input.
So thank you very much.
Anyone who wants to send thatstuff, you can private message
me on facebook.
We've got a pats peeps page, mypersonal page on facebook as
well.
Uh, either way, you want to doit.
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By the way, I did meet larryking one time.
I'll never forget.
I went to the all All-Star gamein Anaheim and I met Larry King
there.
I got in an elevator and, bythe way, that just reminded me.
That reminded me of something,someone else I met that
(20:01):
particular day, which wasincredible.
I think this was God 2010.
Went to the All-Star game itseems like it was the same day
that George Steinbrenner diedbut I get in the press elevator
to head downstairs to go ontothe field prior to the game I
have my credential andeverything Just got done with
the Press dinner and all of thatand get in the elevator.
(20:23):
And who's in the elevator?
Who walks in with me to thisday?
I can't believe it.
Hank Aaron, the great, hankAaron Hammer and Hank and Frank
Robinson two Hall of Famers getin the elevator and you know,
usually I'm not starstruck, butI said, excuse me, gentlemen,
look, I'm going to get oneopportunity to be in the
elevator with two of thegreatest baseball players of all
(20:45):
time.
Can I introduce opportunity tobe in the elevator with two of
the greatest baseball players ofall time?
Can I introduce myself?
Can I shake your hand, which Idid.
Thank you to those guys.
And I get downstairs and thedoor opens and who's sitting
right there on his chair islarry life.
I was larry king.
Let's go to canoga park.
Larry king is sitting there andhe had to be 90 at the time.
It seemed like I don't know.
(21:05):
He was old and I met his wife.
His wife is standing rightthere.
She had to be again, I have noidea, in her 40s, maybe 50.
Stunning, beautiful woman.
I'm thinking dang Larry, lookat you, man.
Here's our second thing fromtoday.
Uh, again, this could be a.
(21:26):
Maybe it's a replay or a rerun.
I I always enjoy this.
So here on pat's peeps 279,this is kind of like this would
be.
I love what coyote j calhoundoes.
He's a Birmingham, alabama DJand he goes off format, which I
(21:51):
did a couple of times when I wasin radio I have to admit,
they'd always check me on it.
But he goes off format.
One night in 1988 on the FM hitstation WZBQ-FM it's Z-102,
everybody, I'm kind of.
Anyhow, diverging from thetightly controlled Top 40 format
, he begins to play classic rock, current album cuts.
(22:11):
He wants to hear Floyd.
Good for you.
Management, not amused by this,they do not approve and then
eventually Coyote is forciblyphysically removed from the
studio.
Everything is recorded live onthe air.
The thunder of the deep south.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
WCBQ-FM Jasper Birmingham.
Wcbq-am.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Tuscaloosa Z102-FM.
Anything else is just a radiostation.
Oh, that's very nice of you tosay something I think you're
(23:04):
very much the coyotes howling atthe moon.
It was my show.
I'll do whatever the hell.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I want Peace of mind.
I can have a peace of my mindright now.
Ladies and gentlemen.
I don't think we play enoughBoston.
I don't think we play enoughPink Floyd.
We don't play enough Death RowJoe.
We don't even play any Mountainwho, Mountain Shut up.
So because I want a little bitmore, so because I want me into
this mind show, I can do what Iwant.
Let me continue and play Oohfor Boston.
(23:30):
It's a long version of LongTimes, but a long time since
their music was heard on thisradio station.
We're going to remedy thattonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, I feel sogood, Ooh, I want to take myself
into a hotel room.
I feel so good, oh, I want totake myself into a hotel room.
(23:53):
I feel so good about myself.
Z-102 FM.
You know, tonight I decided todo whatever I want.
Why?
Because it's my show.
I am the king of the city andsometimes you can fall just so
down.
Darn, excuse me.
I'm so sorry.
You know I am a butthead.
I won the butthead Award lastnight.
Everybody voted and said it was93 to 12.
They want a coyote to be abutthead.
I thank you for your supportand I can guarantee you, my
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pledge to you is continuedbuttheadedness through the
entire year of 1988.
I won't let you down.
I'll be the biggest buttheadyou've ever seen.
And believe me me, ladies andgentlemen, I can do it.
Why?
Because I've had a lot ofpractice being a butthead.
I appreciate your support andyour votes and confidence.
We're talking about right now isthis station's format which is
(24:35):
bugging me.
You know what I'm supposed toplay next hour.
Oh, madonna, open your heart,please.
Every breath you take.
We haven't heard that songenough, have we?
Please every breath you takehow?
We haven't heard that songenough.
Have we Police Every Breath youTake?
How many times do you thinkwe've played that song in the
past four years?
Probably 5,000 times.
My point is.
My point is how many times havewe played Pink Floyd off their
brand new CD?
Zero, None.
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Well, you know I've played twoor three cuts off the Pink Floyd
CD in the past three months.
You know how I did it.
I sneaked the CD in here and Iplayed it without authority and
without permission.
Why?
Because I knew you wanted tohear it.
The CD has sold 4 millioncopies.
We played nothing off it.
That's a good business decision, isn't it?
Oh, I can tell these people aresmart.
We hire a consultant to tell ushey, don't play that.
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It sold 4 million copies.
Someone might like it.
Keep it off the station.
Pink Floyd's my favorite band.
I'm going to remedy the fact wedon't play any Pink Floyd right
now.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Z102.
I hope you're behind me.
Stand behind me, because wehave to change this autocratic
way and this completely fascistway this radio station is run.
I'm sure you agree.
You're tired of hearing thesame old garbage day in and day
(25:41):
out.
Let's play some.
Try your heat gel Rockin' forthe diesel.
Seein' what I'm doin'?
As I was saying, let's have areal request and dedication show
(26:03):
, Not one of these hokey oneswhere I just put people on the
air to request dumb songs.
Whatever you want to hear, giveme a call at 1-100-239-5888.
Or there are other numbers333-113.
Whatever you want to hear, I'mgoing to play for you.
Why?
Because I love you very muchand this is my show.
I'm going to try to present ashow with a little bit of
intelligence.
Garbage over and over and over.
Oh, my hotline is ringing.
(26:25):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, myhotline is ringing.
I bet this will be interesting.
Let's answer the hotline in theair.
Oh, this will be fun.
Shh, don't tell anybody.
C-102 FM hello.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
What the hell are you ?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
doing.
I'm playing.
I'm playing one of my favoritebands, boston.
I'm playing Boston.
Steve, a lot of Boston is whatI'm doing.
Why Is this on the air?
Ladies and gentlemen, steveRussell, our program director of
WZBQ.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, Steve, we're on the air.
Get me off the air now.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Lighten up, Steve, it's just a bit just a joke.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Get me off the air now.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
No, I'm not going to.
If I take you off the air, thenyou'll give me a bad time.
Why don't you just tell thepeople since?
Well, I'll tell you what.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's notlet that ruin our party.
Let's play some more.
(27:31):
Boston C-102 FM I don't eat cowpoop.
Rockin' for the team.
C-102 FM.
C-102 FM.
There you go, ladies andgentlemen.
They love me, they're behind me.
We can't always play the samething every night.
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This station is run by fascist,communist, socialistic
programming fatheads.
It's an all-catch-22.
We play a lot of garbage.
We're going to try to balancethe garbage from now on on my
show with some good stuff.
We're supposed to play acommercial too.
Let's do that.
Okay, enough of that.
I don't really feel likeplaying commercials.
I'm on a roll, I'm feeling hot,I'm really worked up.
I'm a little woozy, I am seeingdouble.
I think I'm going to faintbecause after let's Well, what
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we really should do, ladies andgentlemen, before we continue,
is call Steve Russell back,because I really don't want him
to be angry at me.
He is, after, after all, theprogram director, and he did
sound a little miffed and alittle peeved.
Sometimes they take thesethings so seriously, so I break
in the format for one hour.
Big deal.
We're in ratings right now, sohe's hyper.
Let me call him.
We'll just call Steve and makesure that he's not angry with me
(28:39):
.
Hello, hello, who is this?
It's Janice Janice, ladies andgentlemen, the lovely wife of Mr
Steve Russell, janice.
Hello, janice, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.
You're still having a sexualproblem?
No, I'm not.
Let me speak to Steve, please.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
He's not here.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Where is he?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
He's on his way to the station.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
He's coming here.
Yes, he is, oh, okay.
Well, I'll talk to him when hegets here then, okay, okay, okay
, nice talking with you.
Bye, bye, janice.
Okay, I want to play.
(29:30):
Let's play some Mountain.
You should enjoy this driving.
I think Steve will enjoy someMountain.
You know we don't play thiseither.
Here's some Mountain.
Steve Z102FM.
Felix Papalardi, leslie WestonMountain.
We don't play any Mountain.
Can you believe that as big asthat band was, a lot of
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followers and Felix Papalardi, afine, upstanding gentleman that
I knew personally and I believehe was shot to death at a
topless nightclub.
But we should play someMountain because that
Mississippi Queen was the numberone record in 1970.
Do we play it?
No, we don't.
You know all the records wedon't play.
You know what we play by LedZeppelin Stairway to Heaven,
(30:13):
that's it.
That is all we play by LedZeppelin.
You know what we play by REM?
One song, the one I love.
They have seven albums out.
We play one song, and you knowwhy this happens.
It's really not Steve Russell'sfault.
I know he's driving to thestation, probably listening to
me.
I hope you are listening towhat I'm saying right now.
Listen closely, steve.
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I don't hold you responsiblefor this.
I know you're just a victim ofthis machinery which we call
radio.
We're all victimized by thismonster.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have aconsultant in Virginia that we
pay big money I mean more moneythan anybody here at the station
makes to send us music lists onwhat we should play.
(30:55):
He tells us what to play anddictates to you what you're
going to hear, and he's inVirginia.
Here's the music sheet, righthere.
Look what we got.
We got Madonna, prince Huey,lewis, styx.
Oh, how adventurous, howadventurous.
But Steve is on his way to thestation.
(31:16):
What I'm going to do is I'mgoing to leave the microphone on
, because when Steve gets here,I want him to state his position
.
I want him, man to man, to sitdown in the chair and tell
everybody why we listen to thisJeffries boob and why we follow
these music sheets and have noleeway what to do.
I'll tell you something I'vegot to follow this music sheet,
but if the ratings come back andmy ratings and my book is bad,
you know who's going to getfired.
(31:37):
No, not Mr Jeffries, not MrRussell.
Mr Calhoun will be fired.
So I should have some inputinto my show and you should have
some input.
You want to hear something.
I should be able to play it.
So when Steve gets it, we'llleave the mic on, and when he
gets it we'll ask him why are weputting up with this?
We know what to do.
We've been a radio 10, 15 years.
We don't need management totell us what to do.
(32:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, shut themic off.
Ladies and gentlemen, theprogram director of WZBQ and my
friend, steve Russell Hello,steve, shut the mic off.
Back off.
You're making it worse.
Shut the mic off.
The mic stays on.
Cut the mic off or you're gone.
I cannot believe that.
This is a big damn deal.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Cut the mic off now.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
The mic stays on.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Cut the mic off.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
If you come close to the mic, I Back off right now.
Get off of me.
You Cut the mic off.
Get off.
Cut the mic off.
The mic stays on.
The mic is on.
Get it off now.
The mic is on.
Your mic is on, I'll kill you.
Oh Shadow, oh God Shadow, areyou alright?
Cut the mic off.
Am I playing the Supreme Now?
(32:47):
Cut the mic off now.
You can't get away from me.
Don't touch me Back off.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You're gone, cut the mic off, coyote.
Here's one in honor of SlyStone.
Sly bringing the world together, man back then.
It's the way it was back then.
Rest in peace, sly Stone.
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That's today's episode of Pat'sPeeps, number 279.
Thank you for listening andpaying attention.
Please, please check outpatspeepscom.
Please check it out.
We've got some big thingscoming up in the very near
future, including somegatherings Pat's Peeps
(33:44):
gatherings.
It's going gonna be awesome.
See you on the radio.
good morning, that's right, it's morning.
How are you?
This is patrick and this isPat's Peeps Podcast.
We're at number 279 on thisTuesday, 10th day of June.
Oh, it's my friend's birthday,my friend Keith's birthday, my
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longest tenured friend, keithWelch.
Happy birthday, keith.
Oh my gosh, I gotta get a holdof Keith.
I just realized that, keith, Ishould tell you this.
I just thought about that.
I should tell you the story ofhow I met Keith Welch.
Anyhow, it is a Tuesday, happyTuesday.
Thank you for being a part ofthe Pat's Peeps podcast.
(00:57):
I've got morning voice right now.
I'm doing this earlier in themorning than I usually do, as I
today, will you know.
Actually, I guess I'll be doingtwo podcasts.
I guess I'll be doing twopodcasts today One, this one and
then the other one.
I have a meeting today where Iam going to have a conversation.
(01:22):
If you recall, way back in oneof the previous podcasts I did I
don't recall which one I hadinterviewed two of these
charming 100-plus-year-old womenbecause we wanted to hear their
stories and they weredelightful.
So today it's the men's turn.
Today I'll be later oninterviewing two 100 plus year
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old men, as I understand it, andthen I'll release that podcast
tomorrow.
This is I'm kind of gettingbacked up on my podcast, because
tomorrow I already have apodcast lined up which will be
for that.
I don't know, I just I have somany podcasts going on.
This is 279.
By the way, as I peer out mystudio window today into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia, I can tell you it's
(02:11):
going to be a hot day.
Very little breeze, slightbreeze, but it's warmer today.
I like the hot temps.
I probably mentioned that a fewtimes.
You know me, I'm always tryingto do something a little bit
different on my podcast, andtoday is no different.
Let's see, I had a couple ofthings I wanted to really get
(02:34):
into before I started this one.
Geez, see, now I'm gonna forgetwhat it was, what it was, oh, I
, oh, just an update.
I'm feeling better than I wasyesterday.
I'm feeling better.
Yesterday I was kind of underthe weather, so I was not
feeling great.
I didn't feel, feel terrible,and you know, then it was so
(02:57):
don't hey, guess what.
There's covid going aroundagain.
Well, I don't know what it was.
I still don't feel 100 maybe,but I feel good enough to
broadcast and that's a very goodsign.
Well, I don't know what it was.
I still don't feel 100% maybe,but I feel good enough to
broadcast and that's a very goodsign.
Let's see what else you know.
Oh God, yeah, I'm not evengoing to get into that.
Maybe I'll get into that.
On my show tonight I was goingto say you know, you say
(03:21):
something on Facebook.
Man, don't ever I never postanything political on Facebook.
I'm very neutral, I'm very.
I just don't want to get intothe fray.
I don't want the ugliness on myFacebook page.
If I do put anything politicalon there unless I'm really
(03:42):
peeved, by the way, which I wasyesterday could have done way,
way more than what I actuallydid, but all I did was simply
ask a question.
Did Gavin Newsom really say youknow, come on, tough guy, come
and arrest me, let's get it overwith a paraphrasing?
That's all I said.
Did he say that?
And you should see the vitriol,you should see the comments.
And a former co-worker of mineand if you're listening, you
(04:03):
know who you are Former anchorof my radio station I work for,
by the way, I'm also the host ofthe Pat Walsh Show, kfpk Radio
in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
I posted that and then I got aprivate message from a gentleman
who I used to work with forseveral years and I'm not going
(04:25):
to say who it is, necessarilybecause I didn't tell him.
I would say this, I wasn't evenreally thinking about it.
But he comes back at me in aprivate message with his opinion
, which is okay, I don't mindopinions.
Heck, you want to be demeaningand you want to talk down to me.
That changes things.
(04:47):
You know I'll listen to youropinion, but once you start
getting demeaning and actinglike you know it all and other
people don't, that's where Ihave an issue.
All right, someone treating melike I'm stupid, believe me, you
do not want to debate me.
But if you do, it's the PatWalsh Show.
(05:10):
Monday through Friday, 7 to 10pm, anytime.
Anytime, please.
You are invited to debate me onthis topic that we were talking
about today.
All right, I'd love it, andthen we'll take phone calls to
debate me on this topic that wewere talking about today.
All right, I'd love it, andthen we'll take phone calls and
(05:32):
we'll see who won the debate.
I spoke to you, I didn't speakdown to you and I didn't preface
everything with.
Let me say this loud and clearyou know, just because you say,
let me say, preface everythingwith let me say this loud and
clear you know, just because yousay, let me say, preface
everything with let me say thisloud and clear Look, I like you,
dude, but quit coming at melike that.
I can hear you, I can read, Ican read, let me say this
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perfectly loud and clear Whoa,okay, okay, clear, whoa, okay.
And then and then you getthings like you know, uh, in
2020, your fearless leader likewhat?
What are you talking about, bro?
Seriously, come on, man,lighten up.
(06:19):
Look, if you think it's cool tobash cars and defund police,
take over over cities with noconsequences and the leadership
in your state does zero and theyjust allow it to happen, that's
cool.
If that's what you think,vandalizing cities awesome man.
That's your opinion.
I'd sure hate to you know.
(06:40):
Try to persuade you in adifferent way, other than
thinking that criminalactivities are okay.
Smashing police cars, burningAmerican flags while you're
waving your Mexican flags, right, anyhow, dang on it.
I didn't want to get into that,but I was a little riled up this
morning.
That's why I took to the mic soearly, but I promised myself
(07:05):
that I would not get into that Ibroke my promise.
I have a couple of differentthings I want to get to.
Oh, I love this guy al barry oral barry, I guess this is.
He capitalizes both the a andthe l, so I'm never sure, but I
like his animated stuff.
I haven't seen this one, but Ido like what he does.
(07:26):
Here's Al Berry.
I guess Elizabeth Warren andHillary Clinton found the
Democratic Party's voice formasculinity.
I've not seen it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Elizabeth, the problem with the Democratic
Party is we've hated men for solong we forgot how to relate to
them.
Well, if men weren't such dumbpigs, it wouldn't be so hard.
And that's Elizabeth Warren.
Absolutely right.
Men are naturally racist,homophobic and misogynist.
It doesn't help that they'reinfluenced by Joe Rogan.
That's why we spent millions ofdollars finding our own Joe
Rogan, so we can communicatewith male voters again.
Olivia, come in.
(07:57):
This is Olivia Giuliana.
She's a plus-size queer Latinafeminist.
I guarantee nobody understandsmen better than she does.
My god, she's perfect.
Just by looking at her I cantell she's at least three times
more man than anyone else andshe can definitely speak their
language.
Oh yes, she understands menvery well.
Go ahead, olivia Show,elizabeth, hang on.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Me need catch breath Standing lots of exercise.
Men like female otter.
Men no want cut-off balls.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Wow, it's as if I'm talking to a man right now.
I suppose this means we'll haveto fire other representatives
of masculinity.
You mean Harry Sisson and DavidHogg.
I hate to say it, but you'reright.
If you weigh the options, davidand Harry aren't nearly as
masculine.
Alright, I'll go tell them thebad news.
Hi boys, ooh, it's ElizabethWarren.
Yeah, ooh, it's so good to seeyou, elizabeth.
(08:46):
There's no easy way to say this, but you two aren't the
masculine authorities.
We thought you were, ooh, butI'm 95 pounds of pure man.
That's a great point, david.
Unfortunately, we found 500pounds of pure man.
See for yourself.
Come here, olivia.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Show David and Harry what you showed me, me need rest
, man want hot dog, man want sitin Macy's and eat standing up.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh God, I'm just going to watch that all the time
now.
I love your animation, alAlbury.
Whoever you are, I need to findout where you are.
I need to get you on my show,brother.
That is awesome, man.
All right, this one comes.
So here's where it's going to bea little different today.
I'm going to play some longform.
I'm going to shut up for alittle bit, isn't that great.
(09:37):
I'm going to play some longform.
One of these, by the way, maybe a repeat or might be my first
rerun, but it is always so goodto revisit.
I can't remember if I did it onone of my early, early podcasts
, but I probably did.
But you know what Neverdisappoints?
It's like listening to a greatalbum again.
It never gets old.
(09:57):
So that'll be second up on thelist.
First, though, it comes fromTrent, who is one of the of, uh,
the folks listening to mypodcast or my show, or both.
Thank you, by the way, trent.
I greatly appreciate this.
This is phil hendry prank withlarry king.
(10:20):
It's kind of actually a prankafter Coach Don Shula, who led
the 72 Dolphins to an undefeatedseason.
After Don Shula retired, hereyou go.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I like it 11-29 at WIOD 6-10, WIOD.
The worst talk radio I've everheard in my life is on WIOD.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Larry King is with us on line three and I think
Larry's in Washington right now.
Andy, larry's in Washington.
We thought we'd bring Bob in toask Larry a couple of questions
.
We were all with interest toldabout some of the comments made
by Mr King to Don Shula over theweekend and of course, don
Shula retired last week as headcoach of the Miami Dolphins.
(11:04):
Bob Green is in studio with us.
Larry hello, larry.
Hi guys, how are you doingtoday week as head coach of the
miami dolphins?
Bob green is in studio with us.
Larry hello, larry.
Hi guys, how you doing today?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
super, I understand you're you're getting ready to
go to los angeles?
Yeah, the snow stopped.
Uh, after two and a half daysof being trapped, it it's all
blue skies now, but we got aboutthree feet on the ground, which
is, I think, there's a snowabsolutely snowing.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, every time I try to go to the midwest a lot,
every time I try to travel upthere, it's like every time New
York is shut down, the rest ofthe country gets shut down.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, well, everything is shut.
I mean, if anyone's listeningin Miami and they're flying to
the Northeast Larry, how youdoing?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Hi, larry, bob, green Bob, how are you, how you doing
today?
Fine, I wanted to take over alittle segment here of Phil's
show.
Were and and I mentioned thisto you when I called you
originally um, first of all,henry barrow sends his regards.
Not that I've talked to henrysince my man, henry.
Henry says he sends his regards, cheryl sends her regards to
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you.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's great.
Cheryl's still working there.
Yes, she is, my god she'll be.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
She'll get her social security there I'm not going to
tell her that.
Okay, I'm not going to tell herthat god, uh, we, uh, frankly,
larry, were a little bit takenaback I guess is the best way to
put it by comments you made toCoach Shula on your program.
My understanding was it wasFriday evening.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I was taken aback.
I had two different friendscall me on I think it was one
call Thursday night and one callFriday when it was learned that
Don was going to retire.
And they both said boy, haveyou heard your old radio station
?
I said no, I worked there 20years.
We're the only station ever todo the Dolphins.
And they said they're creamingthem to death.
(12:35):
What do you mean?
They're a society.
School maniacs are calling inand they're saying personal
things about them and they'revilifying them.
And there's a guy in themorning looking to knock him off
he should be out of coachingand he's too old and another guy
criticizing the way he looks.
So when I heard that from twodifferent people, what I said to
don was I heard that thestation I worked at and you
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worked at, because don and I dida show together every day on
wiod for right was rapping youand he said he hasn't all he
said well, I'm just finishing,I'm sorry.
Then he said he hadn't listenedto talk radio in two years, but
that he'd heard about it.
That's all.
So if I'm wrong, tell me whyI'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Well, first of all, we were not personally attacking
Coach Shula.
Certainly we do a talk showhere, as you do.
We have several.
What we did do and any talkshow would do, certainly
relative to a story of this kindof local import was invite our
listeners to call and voicetheir opinions.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The host had no personal opinions about the
coach.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Neil Rogers.
Quite frankly, if you'respeaking of Neil Rogers, or Rick
and Suds or any of the showshere, had nothing but the most
glowing things to say aboutCoach Shula in his retirement
Now, while he was coaching.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Hold on hold on hold on.
Neil Rogers had somethingglowing to say about someone.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Neil was on the day the retirement was announced.
Neil said nothing about I'mtalking about before the
retirement.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I'm talking about after the retirement.
The whole city applauded him.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I can assure you this , Larry.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
What about before?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
the retirement.
All right, I can assure youthere was nothing personal in
made by Neil Rogers.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
What kind of criticisms?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
were there.
That he had his coachingability begin to slump, that the
game perhaps was passing him by, that it was time to make room
for a coach and, as you know,the popularity of Jimmy Johnson
here is well known.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I wrote in my column three years ago that Jimmy was
going to come and coach Miamiand Jimmy told me that in Dallas
.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Phil Koston just says hi too.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He's in the other studio, Let and Jimmy told me
that in Dallas, phil Koston justsays hi too, he's in the other
studio.
Let me say this yes, there's away you can do it and a way you
cannot do it.
Now you can encourage callersto vilify.
I've been doing this a longtime.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I understand that I started.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I know that you were with our radio station for many
years, yeah, so I know how tocan storm up a crowd and the
people who told me I have faithin.
So you're telling me that NeilRogers praised him.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Larry, I would not even bother you, I wouldn't even
bother you with a phone callwhere I'm not talking about
after retirement Everybody jumpson the bandwagon that's below.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I'm talking about before Coach Shula announced his
retirement.
Were your callers personal orinsightful the callers.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Some of the callers may have been, some may have not
.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
When they were, what did you say to?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
them.
We got rid of them very quickly, to be perfectly honest with
you.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Many of them were dumped.
Your inciting calls were offthe air right away.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
They were off the air right away and I apologize to
Mr Rogers for his fairness.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Thank you To the rest of the staff and the two people
who told me must have been hereand thinking.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I got to tell you, larry, I take what I do very
seriously.
Hello, larry, bob's a littleemotional, I'm sorry.
I take what I do very seriouslyand to have our radio station
vilified, don Nash.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Now hold on one second, Bob, your station.
How long have?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
you been general manager.
Get Bob a glass of water orsomething.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
How long have you been general manager?
I've been here since 1992.
Okay, I was in Miami two yearsago.
The worst talk radio I've everheard in my life was on WIOD.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
The worst you see.
It's comments like that that Ithink are very unfair.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Do you want an opinion or not?
Do you think, neil?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Rogers is a good talk show host.
I think he's the best in thebusiness.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think he's the worst I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I think he's the best in the business.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
If you're crying because Neil Rogers has been
vilified, you've got a weirdcase going on.
Larry, could I jump in?
Why don't you go on, neil andcry with each other, All right.
Larry, could I jump in for aminute?
This is insane.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Well, I've got a general manager here who's
crying Bob if you can't handle,heard a worse station, all right
I think that's patently unfairof you and I would demand an
apology for that statement, forhaving an opinion, no, for for
saying that this is the worsttalk radio you've ever heard.
You know the influence that youhave over people it's the worst
talk radio I ever heard Idemand an apology for that
(16:37):
statement I will not give it toyou I demand an apology for that
statement.
I'll ask you again as agentleman what do you ask me to?
To apologize for vilifying aradio station that I put my
market soul to Larry'sexpressing an opinion.
Bob Shut up Phil Shut up Phil.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You can shut your mouth.
You're the general manager.
You're telling your host toshut up.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Bob, what I'm asking you to do is to please.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Hey guys, I don't think when WID written as class.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Who did you work with ?
This is an embarrassing thing.
Who did you work with?
Who did you work with?
I worked with Big Wilson.
Oh, he was terrible.
Goodbye Bob, he was absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Wait a second, I'm not going to talk to you no, but
wait a second, wait a minute.
On behalf of the Big Wilsonfamily, I demand an apology for
you.
Big Wilson passed away and youcalled him terrible.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
All right, so the kettle called the pot black.
Is that what it is?
You come on here, apologize tothe Wilson family, all right.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I apologize.
All right now.
What do you think of BillCalder?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Bill Calder was probably one of the best I ever
heard.
The great talent.
We did loads of things togetherhe was a terrific talent.
And, by the way, he was a veryclose friend of Neil Rogers, is
the preeminent radio talent inAmerica today.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
He's the worst talk show host I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I demand an apology.
No, I demand it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Bob, bob.
We can go back and forth onthis, bob.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
You don't even know your own station.
On behalf of the Rogers family.
Apologize, bob.
We can go back and forth withthis all the time.
What's that crack supposed tomean?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I apologize.
His mother is listening.
I apologize.
His mother is listening.
I apologize to Neil.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Rogers' wife.
What does that crack?
Suppose you said his family.
I'm talking about his mother.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He has relatives in this area.
I would tell his mother thatshe raised a son who's a
terrible talk show host.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Bob, either you can go on with this or you can't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Bob, you can keep going with this, I'm not going
to change my opinion.
I can't believe it, bob.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I can't believe it Well.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I can't Bob, listen, man, if you want to come on.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
He's like crying over here.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well, sorry Bob.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Hey Larry can I?
Just ask you a question herewhen do you think Coach Shula is
going to be going after this?
Do you think he's going to?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I think he's going to be vice president of operations
for the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
He's running the team .
Yeah, he's going to run theteam from that standpoint, but
do you think he might want toentertain any other coaching
possibilities?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know there's a rumor that Baltimore would ask
him.
I want an apology.
Bob shut up.
I don't believe he's thegeneral manager.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
You know what, at this point, neither do I.
He can't be general manager.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Are you still owned by cox?
Yes, we are owned by cox.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You know, I do, I do, I do charities for cox every
year and have made appearancesfor the cox people all over the
country have you raised money?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't thanks a lot, bob, so anyway, thanks again to
trent trent.
Awesome, please keep themcoming.
I definitely appreciate that.
I do love the uh listener input.
So thank you very much.
Anyone who wants to send thatstuff, you can private message
me on facebook.
We've got a pats peeps page, mypersonal page on facebook as
well.
Uh, either way, you want to doit.
(19:40):
By the way, I did meet larryking one time.
I'll never forget.
I went to the all All-Star gamein Anaheim and I met Larry King
there.
I got in an elevator and, bythe way, that just reminded me.
That reminded me of something,someone else I met that
(20:01):
particular day, which wasincredible.
I think this was God 2010.
Went to the All-Star game itseems like it was the same day
that George Steinbrenner diedbut I get in the press elevator
to head downstairs to go ontothe field prior to the game I
have my credential andeverything Just got done with
the Press dinner and all of thatand get in the elevator.
(20:23):
And who's in the elevator?
Who walks in with me to thisday?
I can't believe it.
Hank Aaron, the great, hankAaron Hammer and Hank and Frank
Robinson two Hall of Famers getin the elevator and you know,
usually I'm not starstruck, butI said, excuse me, gentlemen,
look, I'm going to get oneopportunity to be in the
elevator with two of thegreatest baseball players of all
(20:45):
time.
Can I introduce opportunity tobe in the elevator with two of
the greatest baseball players ofall time?
Can I introduce myself?
Can I shake your hand, which Idid.
Thank you to those guys.
And I get downstairs and thedoor opens and who's sitting
right there on his chair islarry life.
I was larry king.
Let's go to canoga park.
Larry king is sitting there andhe had to be 90 at the time.
It seemed like I don't know.
(21:05):
He was old and I met his wife.
His wife is standing rightthere.
She had to be again, I have noidea, in her 40s, maybe 50.
Stunning, beautiful woman.
I'm thinking dang Larry, lookat you, man.
Here's our second thing fromtoday.
Uh, again, this could be a.
(21:26):
Maybe it's a replay or a rerun.
I I always enjoy this.
So here on pat's peeps 279,this is kind of like this would
be.
I love what coyote j calhoundoes.
He's a Birmingham, alabama DJand he goes off format, which I
(21:51):
did a couple of times when I wasin radio I have to admit,
they'd always check me on it.
But he goes off format.
One night in 1988 on the FM hitstation WZBQ-FM it's Z-102,
everybody, I'm kind of.
Anyhow, diverging from thetightly controlled Top 40 format
, he begins to play classic rock, current album cuts.
(22:11):
He wants to hear Floyd.
Good for you.
Management, not amused by this,they do not approve and then
eventually Coyote is forciblyphysically removed from the
studio.
Everything is recorded live onthe air.
The thunder of the deep south.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
WCBQ-FM Jasper Birmingham.
Wcbq-am.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Tuscaloosa Z102-FM.
Anything else is just a radiostation.
Oh, that's very nice of you tosay something I think you're
(23:04):
very much the coyotes howling atthe moon.
It was my show.
I'll do whatever the hell.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I want Peace of mind.
I can have a peace of my mindright now.
Ladies and gentlemen.
I don't think we play enoughBoston.
I don't think we play enoughPink Floyd.
We don't play enough Death RowJoe.
We don't even play any Mountainwho, Mountain Shut up.
So because I want a little bitmore, so because I want me into
this mind show, I can do what Iwant.
Let me continue and play Oohfor Boston.
(23:30):
It's a long version of LongTimes, but a long time since
their music was heard on thisradio station.
We're going to remedy thattonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, I feel sogood, Ooh, I want to take myself
into a hotel room.
I feel so good, oh, I want totake myself into a hotel room.
(23:53):
I feel so good about myself.
Z-102 FM.
You know, tonight I decided todo whatever I want.
Why?
Because it's my show.
I am the king of the city andsometimes you can fall just so
down.
Darn, excuse me.
I'm so sorry.
You know I am a butthead.
I won the butthead Award lastnight.
Everybody voted and said it was93 to 12.
They want a coyote to be abutthead.
I thank you for your supportand I can guarantee you, my
(24:14):
pledge to you is continuedbuttheadedness through the
entire year of 1988.
I won't let you down.
I'll be the biggest buttheadyou've ever seen.
And believe me me, ladies andgentlemen, I can do it.
Why?
Because I've had a lot ofpractice being a butthead.
I appreciate your support andyour votes and confidence.
We're talking about right now isthis station's format which is
(24:35):
bugging me.
You know what I'm supposed toplay next hour.
Oh, madonna, open your heart,please.
Every breath you take.
We haven't heard that songenough, have we?
Please every breath you takehow?
We haven't heard that songenough.
Have we Police Every Breath youTake?
How many times do you thinkwe've played that song in the
past four years?
Probably 5,000 times.
My point is.
My point is how many times havewe played Pink Floyd off their
brand new CD?
Zero, None.
(24:56):
Well, you know I've played twoor three cuts off the Pink Floyd
CD in the past three months.
You know how I did it.
I sneaked the CD in here and Iplayed it without authority and
without permission.
Why?
Because I knew you wanted tohear it.
The CD has sold 4 millioncopies.
We played nothing off it.
That's a good business decision, isn't it?
Oh, I can tell these people aresmart.
We hire a consultant to tell ushey, don't play that.
(25:19):
It sold 4 million copies.
Someone might like it.
Keep it off the station.
Pink Floyd's my favorite band.
I'm going to remedy the fact wedon't play any Pink Floyd right
now.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Z102.
I hope you're behind me.
Stand behind me, because wehave to change this autocratic
way and this completely fascistway this radio station is run.
I'm sure you agree.
You're tired of hearing thesame old garbage day in and day
(25:41):
out.
Let's play some.
Try your heat gel Rockin' forthe diesel.
Seein' what I'm doin'?
As I was saying, let's have areal request and dedication show
(26:03):
, Not one of these hokey oneswhere I just put people on the
air to request dumb songs.
Whatever you want to hear, giveme a call at 1-100-239-5888.
Or there are other numbers333-113.
Whatever you want to hear, I'mgoing to play for you.
Why?
Because I love you very muchand this is my show.
I'm going to try to present ashow with a little bit of
intelligence.
Garbage over and over and over.
Oh, my hotline is ringing.
(26:25):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, myhotline is ringing.
I bet this will be interesting.
Let's answer the hotline in theair.
Oh, this will be fun.
Shh, don't tell anybody.
C-102 FM hello.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
What the hell are you ?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
doing.
I'm playing.
I'm playing one of my favoritebands, boston.
I'm playing Boston.
Steve, a lot of Boston is whatI'm doing.
Why Is this on the air?
Ladies and gentlemen, steveRussell, our program director of
WZBQ.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, Steve, we're on the air.
Get me off the air now.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Lighten up, Steve, it's just a bit just a joke.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Get me off the air now.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
No, I'm not going to.
If I take you off the air, thenyou'll give me a bad time.
Why don't you just tell thepeople since?
Well, I'll tell you what.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's notlet that ruin our party.
Let's play some more.
(27:31):
Boston C-102 FM I don't eat cowpoop.
Rockin' for the team.
C-102 FM.
C-102 FM.
There you go, ladies andgentlemen.
They love me, they're behind me.
We can't always play the samething every night.
(27:53):
This station is run by fascist,communist, socialistic
programming fatheads.
It's an all-catch-22.
We play a lot of garbage.
We're going to try to balancethe garbage from now on on my
show with some good stuff.
We're supposed to play acommercial too.
Let's do that.
Okay, enough of that.
I don't really feel likeplaying commercials.
I'm on a roll, I'm feeling hot,I'm really worked up.
I'm a little woozy, I am seeingdouble.
I think I'm going to faintbecause after let's Well, what
(28:15):
we really should do, ladies andgentlemen, before we continue,
is call Steve Russell back,because I really don't want him
to be angry at me.
He is, after, after all, theprogram director, and he did
sound a little miffed and alittle peeved.
Sometimes they take thesethings so seriously, so I break
in the format for one hour.
Big deal.
We're in ratings right now, sohe's hyper.
Let me call him.
We'll just call Steve and makesure that he's not angry with me
(28:39):
.
Hello, hello, who is this?
It's Janice Janice, ladies andgentlemen, the lovely wife of Mr
Steve Russell, janice.
Hello, janice, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.
You're still having a sexualproblem?
No, I'm not.
Let me speak to Steve, please.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
He's not here.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Where is he?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
He's on his way to the station.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
He's coming here.
Yes, he is, oh, okay.
Well, I'll talk to him when hegets here then, okay, okay, okay
, nice talking with you.
Bye, bye, janice.
Okay, I want to play.
(29:30):
Let's play some Mountain.
You should enjoy this driving.
I think Steve will enjoy someMountain.
You know we don't play thiseither.
Here's some Mountain.
Steve Z102FM.
Felix Papalardi, leslie WestonMountain.
We don't play any Mountain.
Can you believe that as big asthat band was, a lot of
(29:51):
followers and Felix Papalardi, afine, upstanding gentleman that
I knew personally and I believehe was shot to death at a
topless nightclub.
But we should play someMountain because that
Mississippi Queen was the numberone record in 1970.
Do we play it?
No, we don't.
You know all the records wedon't play.
You know what we play by LedZeppelin Stairway to Heaven,
(30:13):
that's it.
That is all we play by LedZeppelin.
You know what we play by REM?
One song, the one I love.
They have seven albums out.
We play one song, and you knowwhy this happens.
It's really not Steve Russell'sfault.
I know he's driving to thestation, probably listening to
me.
I hope you are listening towhat I'm saying right now.
Listen closely, steve.
(30:34):
I don't hold you responsiblefor this.
I know you're just a victim ofthis machinery which we call
radio.
We're all victimized by thismonster.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have aconsultant in Virginia that we
pay big money I mean more moneythan anybody here at the station
makes to send us music lists onwhat we should play.
(30:55):
He tells us what to play anddictates to you what you're
going to hear, and he's inVirginia.
Here's the music sheet, righthere.
Look what we got.
We got Madonna, prince Huey,lewis, styx.
Oh, how adventurous, howadventurous.
But Steve is on his way to thestation.
(31:16):
What I'm going to do is I'mgoing to leave the microphone on
, because when Steve gets here,I want him to state his position
.
I want him, man to man, to sitdown in the chair and tell
everybody why we listen to thisJeffries boob and why we follow
these music sheets and have noleeway what to do.
I'll tell you something I'vegot to follow this music sheet,
but if the ratings come back andmy ratings and my book is bad,
you know who's going to getfired.
(31:37):
No, not Mr Jeffries, not MrRussell.
Mr Calhoun will be fired.
So I should have some inputinto my show and you should have
some input.
You want to hear something.
I should be able to play it.
So when Steve gets it, we'llleave the mic on, and when he
gets it we'll ask him why are weputting up with this?
We know what to do.
We've been a radio 10, 15 years.
We don't need management totell us what to do.
(32:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, shut themic off.
Ladies and gentlemen, theprogram director of WZBQ and my
friend, steve Russell Hello,steve, shut the mic off.
Back off.
You're making it worse.
Shut the mic off.
The mic stays on.
Cut the mic off or you're gone.
I cannot believe that.
This is a big damn deal.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Cut the mic off now.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
The mic stays on.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Cut the mic off.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
If you come close to the mic, I Back off right now.
Get off of me.
You Cut the mic off.
Get off.
Cut the mic off.
The mic stays on.
The mic is on.
Get it off now.
The mic is on.
Your mic is on, I'll kill you.
Oh Shadow, oh God Shadow, areyou alright?
Cut the mic off.
Am I playing the Supreme Now?
(32:47):
Cut the mic off now.
You can't get away from me.
Don't touch me Back off.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You're gone, cut the mic off, coyote.
Here's one in honor of SlyStone.
Sly bringing the world together, man back then.
It's the way it was back then.
Rest in peace, sly Stone.
(33:21):
That's today's episode of Pat'sPeeps, number 279.
Thank you for listening andpaying attention.
Please, please check outpatspeepscom.
Please check it out.
We've got some big thingscoming up in the very near
future, including somegatherings Pat's Peeps
(33:44):
gatherings.
It's going gonna be awesome.
See you on the radio.
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