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July 31, 2025 28 mins

Nostalgia wraps around us like a warm blanket in this heartfelt exploration of music, memory, and the connections that shape our lives. We begin with a sweet encounter at a children's lemonade stand, a reminder of the simple joys that never fade despite our complicated world. From there, we dive into classic Reagan humor that still lands decades later – proof that some things truly stand the test of time.

The heart of our journey centers on the Grateful Dead's remarkable 60-year legacy as they prepare for their anniversary celebration at Golden Gate Park. I share my personal evolution as a Dead fan, starting with my teenage fascination with their mesmerizing album artwork. Blues for Allah's skeleton with white hair and wraparound red shades playing violin still captivates me as perhaps the greatest album cover ever created. These visual gateways led me to discover music that would become a lifelong companion.

What makes certain bands click with some people but not others? The Dead possess that rare quality – a distinctive sound that creates its own universe of devoted followers while remaining impenetrable to others. I've witnessed countless moments when someone hears a Dead track for the first time and exclaims, "I didn't realize I liked the Dead!" Their unique blend of rock, jam, and experimental sounds creates something entirely their own.

We wrap with a deep dive into the physical artifacts that preserve our musical memories. Pulling a pristine Chicago record from my collection – untouched since April 1975 – becomes a meditation on the tangible connections to our past. As "Old Days" plays, we're transported to a world of Schwinn bicycles, baseball cards, and Saturday morning cartoons that defined childhood for so many.

Whether you're a dedicated Deadhead preparing for the anniversary shows or someone who treasures the power of music to transport us across time, this episode celebrates how art becomes intertwined with our personal stories. What bands have shaped your life? Which songs instantly transport you to specific moments? Share your musical memories with us and join the conversation about the soundtrack of our lives.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
welcome my friends.
How are you?
Happy thursday to you.
The pats peeps podcasts on athursday hey, now last day of
july 2025.
Looking out the studio windows,it's later in the day today.

(00:27):
By the way, it's another hotone out there Not exceedingly
hot, by the way, it's been avery mild July.
Thank you for being there, man.
I appreciate you.
Stopped by a lemonade standtoday.
You know we support the smallbusinesses here on Pat's Peeps.
Like I tell you every singletime, I'll continue to do so.

(00:47):
It was so nice to stop by thelemonade stand and see the
little kids out there wereselling the cookies and the
lemonade on a not so hot day,and I was so glad to, you know,
take a couple of photos.
I put those up on my socialmedia, but I'll put them on the
Pat's Peeps page on Facebook aswell.
Now that I'm thinking about it,hope you're having a pleasant

(01:10):
day in wherever you arelistening.
You know what I love is againI'm the host of the Pat Wall
Show at KFPK in Sacramento.
Kfpk Radio 93.1 FM 1530 AMstreaming live everywhere on the
free iHeart app.
But my gosh, when you call myshow, when you say yeah, say
yeah, man, I'm listening to yourPat's Peeps, like here we are
on 309, and someone called myshow last night and they were

(01:33):
listening to the first one and Ithought, you know, boy, that is
great because it's, like I say,wonderful to get new listeners,
but I hope I didn't suck on thefirst one.
I don't know, I won't go backand listen.
Maybe I still suck, I don'tknow.
I'm trying to refine the thing,but I won't go back and listen,

(01:53):
but it is so great to hear that.
And then Ray, during my showthe other night, ray calling me
from St Louis, ray, thank you,man, thank you.
He says you know, pat, I'm inthe hospital and Ray's a good
guy, good family guy.
Ray and his family, they'vebeen listening to my show for

(02:16):
years.
A friend of mine and he's inthe hospital, for goodness sakes
, in St Louis.
He's like Pat.
I listened to your, he's likepat.
I listened to your show and thenI listened to your podcast in
the midst of it.
If you go, you know, if you're,you know.
As soon as you cut away, I'mlistening to the peeps and
before I'm listening to it.
You guys are wonderful, thankyou, and it would mean again

(02:40):
just to keep telling you I'm not, you know, not trying to be a
commercial, but heck, pat'speeps is what it's all about for
our local businesses.
Please check them out again.
It was so nice just visitingthe lemonade stand, uh, so,
anyhow on.
Uh, you know, I just want to.
What are we going to do?
I I have a couple things.

(03:01):
I just want to start with.
Why not?
Why not, let's just do.
Because I'm in a good mood, Iwant to start with a Reagan joke
.
Can we do that just out ofnowhere?
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It was about a fellow that was driving down a country
road and all of a sudden lookedout and there beside him was a
chicken.
He was doing about 45 and thechicken was running alongside.
So he stepped on the gas, hegot it up to about 60, and the
chicken caught up with him andwas right beside him again.
And then he thought, as he waslooking at him, that the chicken
had three legs.
But before he could really makeup his mind for sure, the
chicken took off out in front ofhim at 60 miles an hour and

(03:35):
turned down a lane into abarnyard.
Well, he made a quick turn andwent down into the barnyard too,
and there was there and heasked him.
He said did the chicken comepast you?
He said yeah.
Well, he said am I crazy, ordid the chicken have three legs?
He says yep, it's mine, says Ibreed three-legged chickens.
And the fellas it, for heaven'ssake, why.
Well, he says I like thedrumstick.

(03:55):
Mall likes the drumstick andnot a kid likes the drumstick.
And we just got tired offighting for him.
And the driver said well, howdoes it taste?
He says I don't know.
I've never been able to catchone you know all these.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I love reagan.
What a good american, oh mygosh.
He loved his country and allthese years later he still makes
me laugh with his sense ofhumor.
I gotta hear one more.
Hope you don't mind.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Let's hear another Reagan joke here.
It's a story about a woman whowalked into a bridal shop one
day and told the sales clerkthat she was looking for a
wedding gown for her fourthwedding.
Well, the saleswoman asked justexactly what type of dress are
you looking for?
A long, flowing white dresswith a veil.
She responded with assurance.
Not totally convinced, butafraid to offend the woman.

(04:53):
The saleslady said you know,dresses of that nature are
usually more appropriate forbrides who are being married for
the first time, for those a bitmore innocent if you know what
I mean" the lady retorted andput her hand on her hip.
I do know what you mean and Ican assure you I'm as innocent

(05:17):
as the rest of them.
Despite all my marriages, Iremain as innocent as any
first-time bride.
I remain as innocent as anyfirst-time bride.
You see, my first husband was adear, sweet man.
It was a terrible tragedyactually.
All the excitement of thewedding was simply too much for
him and he died as we checkedinto the hotel on our wedding

(05:37):
night.
I'm sorry to hear that, saidthe clerk.
But what about the others?
Well, my second husband and Igot into a terrible fight in the
limousine on the way to ourwedding reception.
We haven't spoken since and gotthe marriage quickly annulled.
What about your third husband,asked the store clerk.
Well, the woman replied to hewas a Democrat and every night

(06:04):
for four years he just sat onthe edge of the bed and told me
how good it was going to besorry, sorry, I just couldn't

(06:28):
resist telling that meanwhile,in San Francisco, beginning
tomorrow, the Grateful Dead willbe celebrating their 60 year
love affair with San Francisco'sGolden Gate Park.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'll be there tomorrow night.
Be doing my podcast from there,number 310 from the dead.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I miss Jerry.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know some people don't get the Dead.
I get that.
It's interesting.
You know there are certainbands you get them or you don't
get them.
The Dead are, I guess, one ofthose, but I love them.
I know I don't own the music, Ijust love this sound.
I reckon I've listened to thedead more in the last year than

(07:35):
any other band.
60th anniversary Golden GatePark.
It starts tomorrow night.
Robin the Interrupter so nice,she bought tickets and invited
me.
Now, how sweet is that Iconicband.

(08:02):
You know Bob Weir still leadingthe way.
We lost Phil Lesch, Jerry, ofcourse, in 95.
And God, I don't even want toturn this off.
I love it so much.

(08:23):
You know, when I first I wasfascinated with the Grateful
Dead because as a teenager I wasreally, and still am, open to
all kinds of music, particularlyrock.
I want to hear various types ofrock and I was very attracted
because the 70s had just greatalbum covers.

(08:48):
You could look at an albumcover and you would think, wow,
that's got to be a cool recordbecause of the album cover.
There are albums that I learnedthat I know based on the fact I
purchased them for the albumcover more than the fact I knew
anything on the record.
Camel Moon Madness would be oneof them and the Grateful Dead.

(09:15):
For my money, they had the mostintriguing album covers of all
time, my favorite being andperhaps, no, not even perhaps
still my favorite album cover ofall time is blues for Allah.
I love that album cover withthe skeleton with the white hair
sitting in that stone, kind ofa I don't know if it's a

(09:37):
mausoleum or I don't know whatit is with the wraparound, red
shades playing the violinawesome.
You pull that record out, thevinyl out of the cover, and it's
got like the.
There's a skeleton like agesture sitting on a stone wall.
It's got a.
I'm seeing this in my head.

(09:57):
I swear I'm not even looking atthe record, I can see it in my
mind.
He's got like one of thosegesture hats on and someone tell
me if I'm wrong, but I can seeit it's a black and white
checkered floor.
Maybe he has some kind of amedieval instrument or something
like that.
But the album covers wereintriguing.

(10:22):
Oxomoxoa, wake of the Flood wasthe cover and the back cover,
the front and the back cover,really intriguing to me?
I would say one of my otherfavorite album covers of all
time, europe 72, with the snowcone in the forehead, the cover,

(10:45):
and then on the back it's gotthe you know the shoe going
through the rainbow and the potof gold.
And so, my friend, keith Welch,we went to the record factory on
65th Street there in SouthSacramento.

(11:08):
We would buy records Imentioned that before $333 a
piece, and back then we couldget eight tracks too.
We'd get eight tracks and, toKeith's credit, he got Steal
your Face and You're Up 72.
Again, because he was intriguedwith the album covers.

(11:31):
And so when we brought themhome, we listened to these eight
tracks and it was so differentand we were tripping on this
like man.
I don't know about you, keith,but I like this.
Yeah, me too.
So we would listen, we'dtotally get into it.

(11:53):
And since then, and so then Ithen there was this lady who?
She was my mother's neighbor inthis apartment complex in
Rancho Cordova.
I was also at the timeintrigued by the tubes.
They were brand new.
This was way before they hadcommercial success and so I was

(12:16):
intrigued by them, as I'mlearning new bands as a 16 and
17, 18 year old Doing Werewolvesof London.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Doing Warren Zevon Anyhow.
And so I go to this lady'shouse I wouldn't even tell you
the other story because she hadit out for me, man, her and her
friend.
And, geez, I thought, oh mygosh, they're older women.
I was 16.
They were like in their,probably in their 30sez.
I thought, oh my gosh, they'reolder women.
I was 16.
They were like in their,probably in their 30s.
And I thought, oh, they'reolder.
And uh, they had it.

(12:52):
They.
I'll just say that they uh, hmm, what word should I use?
Were intrigued by the 16 yearold.
Can you imagine as I'm thinkingabout?
But I was too smart, I'm toosmart for that beep.
I said, oh, no, no, no, no, hey, no, good morning.
But before that I wrapped otherrecords and I got the dead um

(13:15):
blues for all and I put that onthe record player and I, man,
I'm into that.
What a great record.
Then I'm listening to the firstalbum and that's kind of how I
got into this music.
So to be going after all ofthese years as a fan to go see
the dead.
Their 60th anniversary.
My brother, steve, and I wentto Golden Gate Park and this is

(13:41):
when Jerry died.
They had a big memorial for himat Golden Gate Park and to my
recollection there was anairplane dropping roses onto the
crowd.
It was unbelievable.
So many people out there, thedead music playing everywhere.
I may have seen a couple ofpeople smoking a joint, but yeah

(14:07):
, so we were there for that.
There's just something aboutthis band.
I put them in there as one ofthe greatest rock bands from
America.
That's my opinion.
They're very different thanmost other music.
They have their own sound.
I think Phish is kind offilling that role a little bit.

(14:31):
They've been trying to fillthat role that the Deadheads.
They want to hear, that kind ofjam, spacey kind of rock.
So they've been doing that.
But you know I have so manymemories of the Dead One of them
that.
But you know I have so manymemories of the dead.
One of them my buddy Wano and Igoing to see the Grateful Dead

(14:52):
in.
I think it was Mary's, it wasMarysville and we had this
little table.
I couldn't believe the dead dothings different.
We had this little table and itwas a sunny day in the spring
and the dead are out thereplaying and we got an umbrella
over our heads and a sunny dayin the spring and the dead are
out there playing and we got anumbrella over our heads and a

(15:12):
waitress and the best seats inthe house and they're bringing
us cocktails.
I'm looking at Wayne.
I'm like what is happening here?
Are you kidding me?
The other thing about theGrateful Dead there have been
times where I've been listeningto them and maybe riding in a
car with someone or playing itat my home and they'll say who

(15:36):
is this?
I'll say the Grateful Dead.
Really, I can't stay muchlonger, melinda.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
The sun is getting higher, so yeah, it's the.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Grateful Dead, really .
So yeah, it's the Grateful Dead, what?
And there have been severaltimes I'll hear them go.
I didn't really know theirsongs.
I like this.
Okay, I said no, it's different.
Yeah, man, I like it.
I didn't realize I liked thedead.

(16:08):
This is from.
I believe this is from Europe72, but I believe it's
originally.
Someone tell me if I'm wrong.
It's okay, can't trackeverything.
Wasn't this from Working Man'sDead?
Then they get into like allmellow and I love it Anyhow.

(16:29):
So we'll be down at the Deadtomorrow.
I'll do Pat's Peeps 310.
I like Golden Gate Park.
Honestly, I'm not big intogoing to San Francisco usually,

(16:50):
so this is kind of unusual forme to be going to do this Right
in the drain.
Ditch, god ought to live.
You know better, but I know you.
60 years as a band I mean thatis remarkable.

(17:16):
60 years.
The Grateful Dead Steal yourface right off your head.
Three days of concerts andfestivities marking the
anniversary.
They're a jam band, but they'rea rock band.
Make love, not war.
Phil Lesh, one of my favoritebassists, ever Rest in peace.

(17:44):
Ever Rest in peace.
Dead Company featuring originalDead members Bob Weir, mickey
Hart.
They'll be playing the polofield tomorrow night Estimated
60,000 of us every day.
He's gone, he's gone.

(18:04):
He's gonna bring him back of usevery day.
The last time the band playedthat part of the park was 91, a
free show following the passingof the concert promoter, long
time deadhead, bill Graham On a10-mile ride.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Hot as a pistol but cool inside.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Love that bass and Jerry's guitar and singing is.
I always thought he was veryunderrated as a singer.
Nothing left to do but smile,smile, smile.
I always thought he was veryunderrated as a singer.
635 bucks is going to cost youif you go for all three days.
They were formed in 1965, theGrateful Dead Synonymous with

(19:02):
San Francisco, just like theGiants Respect Giants fans
Synonymous with thecounterculture living in dirt.
Cheap Victorians hate Ashbury.
Of course I love I used to mybrother and I would visit there
quite often.
Go buy cool rock t-shirts backbefore you could buy them on the
internet, I could go down thereand buy Zappa shirts and really

(19:24):
awesome dead shirts George,george Clinton, p Funk shirts,
stuff like that.
Really they have some reallyunique things clothing stores
and all that, of course.
Also significant 1967, thesummer of love.
All of that stuff.
Grateful dead summer love stuff.
Grateful dead summer love stuff.

(19:47):
Police raids, acid trips.
Thank god I was never part ofthat.
To be honest, I was not part ofthe.
You know, I wasn't a dead headthat just followed them.
I was the kind of guy thatloved the dead, love their music
on record, whether it wasstudio some.
Some people are just reallyinto the live stuff, but I love
studio and I love the live andwhen they would come to town or

(20:10):
they would be in the area, Iwould go see them, whether it's
at the Fillmore or Marysvillewhich is still cool that they
played there, you know whereverit might be Sacramento, of
course, out at the Cal Expo whenthey used to have the outdoor
amphitheater.
Of course, out at the Cal Expowhen they used to have the
outdoor amphitheater.
They've had a long stint thereat the Sphere in Las Vegas.

(20:34):
So here's an opportunity fordeadheads or fans of the dead,
who always have these trippygreat live shows, and this is a
chance for so many people to seethose.
So that's pretty remarkable60,000 people a day.

(21:02):
I remember reading a story onetime Of course it's not verified
, but I do remember a storywhere someone, when Mount St
Helens blew up what May of 1980?
May, what was it?
May 18th?
Is it May 18th?
May 15th?
Somewhere right in there thatthere was a group of deadheads.

(21:22):
The dead were supposed to playsomewhere in the Northwest and
these dedicated deadheadsliterally were driving towards
it with ash coming down, usingtheir hands and paper to try to
clear the soot and the ashesfrom their windshield because

(21:44):
they were so determined thatthey were going to see the dead.
They were going to plow throughthose ashes to go see the dead.
I don't know if they ever madeit.
Hope they did what I'm going totalk about on my show tonight.

(22:17):
You know, I picked this recordout from my collection today and
it reminded me that this mightbe a good topic.
I'm very nostalgic.
I'm always talking aboutnostalgic things on my radio
show, the Pat Walsh show.
When I plucked this record out,I already know, without pulling
it out of the sleeve, it isgoing to be in perfect condition
.
I could just tell by the way itlooks.
I'm pulling out of the sleevereal quick.
Oh my gosh, it is.

(22:39):
It's beautiful.
I always say that, but it'sjust so true.
I'm amazed every time becausethis thing has been sitting on
the record shelves since april.
It's got a little sticker on itfrom.
It's not a sticker, but a stampthat the radio station put on
there.
Uh, it's a Columbia label,white stereo.

(23:01):
Both sides same song, threeminutes 30 seconds, but it says
April 75.
So this record has been sittingup there for 50 years and, my
friends, when I tell you it isimmaculate.
It's never until today been puton a turntable, never, never
until today been put on aturntable, never.

(23:23):
Put it back in the sleeve for asecond here.
Wow, it's weird, I'm so guiltytaking it out of that sleeve for
the first time.
It's probably the first timethat's ever been pulled out of a
sleeve the record sleeve.
So I remember this song beingplayed all the time.
75, I remember every song thatwas played on the radio 1975, 74

(23:52):
, 73, you name it, 70s, writtenby and as soon as I say this
name, if you are a fan of thisband, you're going to know
exactly who the band is.
And to me this is a band thatalways makes me feel good, and I
feel good today.
On a Thursday, the weekend's,here I'll be seeing the dead,
and this one makes me feel good.
This song, the group, written byJames Pankow.
Yes, you know who it is.

(24:12):
I won't even disrespect the manby not even telling you who the
group is.
I usually kind of keep that amystery, but it's Chicago.
James Pankow, great member ofChicago, recorded for their
album Chicago 8.
It was the second singlereleased from that particular
album, lead vocals by PeterCetera.

(24:33):
Pankow said that the song is,like I say, nostalgic.
It's a piece about hischildhood.
I love talking about mychildhood.
You know the good old daysriding the Schwinn bicycle,
grabbing your mitt, going downto the park, playing with your
buddies, your brothers, watchingSaturday morning cartoons like
we just talked about the otherday, playing outside till your

(24:57):
dad whistled, watching black andwhite TV.
You were the remote Rabbit earsright.
A little bit later on you hadthe VHS tapes.
That was big, that was new.
Remember the laser disc players?
No one had those Anyhow.
The old days making a ramp outin front of your house, jumping

(25:19):
your ramp on your bicycle,biffing it in the street,
wearing helmets Are you joking?
No one's wearing helmets.
We're going to ride thoselittle pup mini bikes.
Remember those?
No helmet.
I hit rebar when they werebuilding Consumers River College
.
I was like 10.
I got on that pup mini bike.
That's all I ever wanted to do.
I wanted a mini enduro Yamahabut I got on that pup mini bike

(25:41):
at like 10.
I forgot how to stop.
But I'm going on.
There's a big crater out there.
They're building ConsumersRiver College and I, freaking
hit the rebar pile.
No helmet, please.
Businesses were closed onSunday, remember?

(26:01):
You get your film, have to getyour film developed.
Oh my god, go to Lucky Storethrifties, get ice cream.
It's about that this song is andthis is this was, like I say it
was on the radio all the timevery popular song.
They say.

(26:24):
Danny Cashbox praising thegreat horn work.
Danny Serafin's fine drum parts, terry Cass, incredible guitar
licks.
Wall-to-wall sound.
Pat Williams' strings.
Old Days by Chicago still agreat record.

(26:45):
Still love it to this day.
Pat's Peeps 309.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Thank you.
Fun days Filled with simplepleasures Driving movies, comic
books and movies.
How did you do that?

(27:35):
Baseball cards and movies Takeme back To a world gone away.
Memories Seem like yesterdayMemories.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Thank you for listening to Pat's Peeps number
309.
Much appreciation, my friends.
We'll see you on the radio.
Please check out patspeepscomplease.
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