The magic and challenges of talk radio life come alive as we explore behind-the-scenes realities from fill-in hosting to dental disasters and musical memories.
• Insights from filling in for another talk show host and the stark differences between daytime news-focused radio and evening entertainment formats
• The surprising revelation that most radio shows have dedicated producers while some hosts operate without this crucial support
• Another chapter in the ongoing dental nightmare saga, with two broken teeth in rapid succession from hidden bone fragments in food
• A deep dive into Burt Bacharach's musical legacy and his 52 US top 40 hits that defined an era
• Exploration of Jackie DeShannon's "What the World Needs Now Is Love" and its powerful 1971 remix by DJ Tom Clay that incorporated civil rights speeches and assassination coverage
• How certain songs can transport us to specific moments in time, creating vivid memories that stay with us forever
Thank you for listening to Pats Peeps, number 314. Look forward to seeing you on the radio.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, we are back.
It is the Pats Peeps podcast.
Hello, how are you?
Happy?
Tuesday, august the 12th, 2025,2025.
It's late in the day, so I'mlooking out my studio window
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into the darkened foothills ofnorthern california, where it is
still relatively warm.
I'll tell you that over thelast week it's been very hot.
Uh, today I uh it was hot, butanyhow it's dark now.
This is one of the few timesthat I do my podcast at night,
because on a weeknight, I rarelydo my podcast on the weekend,
(00:56):
so I do it monday through fridaynormally, but tonight I'm doing
it in the evening because I hadthe opportunity to fill in for
another talk show host today,which is interesting.
I'm not a fill-in talk showhost.
I have my own show, not to brag, but I do the Pat Walsh Show,
(01:20):
which is at KFBK RadioSacramento 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
7 to 10 PM, monday throughFriday, plus my peeps here.
Please, patspeepscom, supportyour local business.
And today, though, instead ofdoing my 7 to 10 PM slot, I
filled in for the Shane reaction, which is noon to 3.
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That's a great time slot.
By the way, it's a verydifferent type of show, more
newsy, where you're payingattention, I'm paying attention
to a lot of the current thingsthat are happening, whether it's
insurance, fire insurance inthe state of California, and I
had guests on all dayCongressman Doug LaMalfa, part
(02:04):
of my show today on the Shanereaction, so that leaves my
nighttime open and they'replaying the best of.
By the way, instead of havingto fill in tonight for whatever
reason maybe someone was notavailable they're playing the
best of, and so I mean that'sjust the way it works out.
Sometimes Maybe I could havedone another show.
(02:25):
I don't know, but listen, noone wants to.
First of all, no one wants tohear.
That'd be like six, that'd besix hours of me.
I mean, I love you, but I knowyou love me back, because you
guys would be, wouldn't belistening and gosh, I do
appreciate you.
I um, no, no one needs thatmuch, plus a podcast.
That'd be seven hours of my day.
But so they gave me the nightoff, obviously, and that's what
(02:52):
we do.
You know someone takes the dayoff.
You need someone.
Bam, I'll come do it, why not?
We look out for one another.
I'm sure Sam would do it for me.
We have two very differentstyles of shows.
Whereas the daytime shows aremore targeted towards New
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Zealand-type of events, whetherit's politics or whatever it
might be.
Like I just said, insuranceRecently we had Steve Moskowitz
talking about the big, beautifulbill and how it affects all of
us tax wise, to try to get anunderstanding.
You know things like that frontpage type of things, whereas on
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my show I still do that, but II mix it up.
You know I'm always looking forsomething that slipped through
the cracks, other angles,different things, because you
know what there's other thingsgoing on in this world.
It's not all about controversyand divisiveness.
Sometimes it's about hey, howyou doing, man, let's talk some
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music, or have you seen a goodmovie?
Or let's talk about whatevernostalgia, or what can we do to
make things better?
I don't know, we just have fun.
As many of you have said, it'sthe respite at the end of the
day, or it is the beer at theend of a long day, and I love
that role.
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I really do, but I enjoy beingflexible, so it was fun.
Thank you to KFPK and iHeartand thank you to Sam Shane and
Bill White, luis Aquino, who isa great guy.
He is the you know, I canactually say producer.
He produces the Sam Shane, theShane reaction Boy.
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I could get into the whole thingabout a producer.
I'm just going to say it rightnow.
You know, you listen to allthese radio shows, whether it's
Sam Shane, whether it'sArmstrong and Getty, tom
Sullivan who's now retired, youname it they all have producers.
(05:03):
I can assure you I am the onlyshow, the only host, doing a
radio show, at least that I amaware of, that has no producer.
Do you know?
I've never had a producer, andif you listen to my show and
you're going well, wait a second, you had kendall, you have, you
(05:27):
have solo.
There's a difference between atechnical producer which is
kendall or solo or some of theother great technical producers
that we have.
These are the people that youknow.
They let you know what's goingon within the show, they run the
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board to keep us on air, theyplay the commercials, they keep
everything in order, producingthe show in that way, and I love
them and I love what they havedone for my show and I love them
and I love what they have donefor my show.
Without them, I couldn't do ithere.
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I can run my own board on mypodcast, not in radio.
You need these very valuablepeople.
So I salute them.
But a producer, when you'retalking about an actual show
producer, there's a difference.
Those people, they, they lineup guests for you.
They have lots of ideas.
Now, what?
Now?
Kendall?
Going back to kendall, shealways had good ideas and back
(06:38):
then she spoke on the radio.
Back then that's a long storyI'm not going to get into but
she could speak on the radio.
She no longer works there.
I miss her very much.
I'm sure a bunch of theaudience does as well, but it
was out of our control.
(06:58):
But Kendall again, was atechnical producer who added a
lot of spice and a lot of valueto the show and had a lot of
great ideas.
All these other shows haveproducers.
They get the audio, they cut upthe audio.
They say Pat, have you seenthis story?
You know this is going on.
You know who my producers arefrom my show.
Being honest with you, you,what do you mean?
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Well, because I get so muchgreat content from you.
You guys are always pointingout great content for me and
that's always very, very helpful.
Beyond that, you know, you'rejust always thinking what can I
do?
That's a little bit different,but I don't have a producer and
that's just the way it is.
I'm not going to sit here andcomplain about it, would it be
nice?
Yes, so today, when I walk in todo the Shane reaction, here's
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Luis Aquino and he's producingand I went, oh my god, wait, a
minute.
Wait, yeah, I got this guy.
We'll go ahead and call the.
I know you wanted this guest,the congressman, so I'm going to
go ahead and try to get him on.
Bam, got him on.
Uh, I know you wanted theinsurance guy doing so we can
tell everyone about what's goingon with the fire insurance in
California.
Got him on.
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Otherwise, it's me.
Thank God, I like what I do.
I do like what I do.
So that was awesome.
That was just to take you alittle bit behind the scenes and
how we do things there.
Beyond that, I do understandthat it's been.
This is the longest probablyI've gone without doing a peeps
(08:31):
in between peeps, and Iapologize for that.
The last time I did one wasfive days ago.
I can't even believe that, andyou know what.
You guys are still listening.
The numbers are actually verystrong.
I thank you.
Oh my, my gosh, thank you somuch.
I'm not on tonight.
I'm doing.
I'm doing the best stuff beforeI get to what I was going to
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say, one of the reasons why Iwas off, I I wanted to also
mention that you know, scottrobinson and bc bruce campbell
fill in for my show and they doa wonderful job.
I always like when we have agood fill-in.
And I will tell you thisfilling in for a talk show for a
host that people like and enjoyis very, very difficult,
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because you know when they'reused to a certain voice, a
certain style, and if they enjoythat, and then the music comes
on, she sells sanctuary, in thiscase the cult and and then, all
of a sudden, it's not me and Iand I don't say that to be
egotistical or narcissistic inany way, I'm just telling you
(09:37):
the reality of it.
Some people go oh wow, it patsnot on.
Tonight it's uh, you know, uh,they've got a fill-in host.
Well, I'm blessed to have twoguys who are great fill-ins.
I'd love to find a woman whocould fill in.
I'm not based this on sex oranything, I'm just saying that
it just happens to be two guys.
(09:58):
I've had women fill in for myshow as well, but currently it's
Scott and it's Bruce and theydo a great job and and again
it's.
It can be difficult to do thatand here these guys do a stellar
job and you guys listen andrespond.
So thank you for treating thosegentlemen the way you do.
I really appreciate all of that.
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It's an interesting thing.
Being a radio talk show host.
I can't think of a lot of otheroccupations where people tell
you how you're doing at your job.
I mean, think about it.
I can't think of very many.
(10:41):
Whereas you're doing your job,people are giving you feedback
throughout the day.
I'm not talking about your bossor I'm not talking about your
co-workers.
I'm talking about just peoplewho are using, I guess consuming
, your product, in this caseradio and you guys are great,
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always great comments, wonderfulfeedback.
Like I said earlier, you sendgreat content.
I'll get off of that.
I just want to say thank you.
All right, much gratitude.
The reason I have been sort ofmissing in action let me get a
drink here.
Oh boy, I've been so thirstylately, just lately, only
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because it's hot.
It's not diabetes or anything,but it has been just I.
I feel like a broken recordwhen I say this, but it's true.
The dental nightmares that I gothrough my entire life, you
know.
Recently, long story short,bought some burger, made a
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hamburger chunk of bone in aburger, busted out front left
tooth.
A few days ago, went tobreakfast, ordered breakfast
about four or five bites in bigchunk of bone.
Never saw it, almost like alittle ball of a bone bit on it,
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busted my right tooth out.
It's just the way it is.
So I had the big dentalappointment today to see what
they can do.
I remember it was a few monthsago during Thanksgiving and
Christmas and into the NewYear's where I was missing that
front tooth.
Remember those?
Go back and listen to thosepodcasts.
(12:34):
That was the laundromatpodcasts, for something truly
different.
You'll have to go back and lookfor those in retrospect.
I was having fun doing that,but I was not having fun missing
the front tooth.
So, uh, yeah, whatever.
So that was the.
That's the heck I've been goingthrough all right, whatever
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it's life.
You know I wanted to talk aboutthis record.
I pulled out my record shelftoday.
I'm not going to make it thisquite this short, I'm not going
to end here, but I, when Ipulled this record off the shelf
today.
This kind of brings back goodmemories and actual, very vivid
memories, just so random, thoughMeaningless to anyone else, but
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very random, and just there itis stuck on this card in the
Rolodex of my mind from theearly 70s, going to Oregon with
my mom and my brothers andsisters in the Ford Falcon
station wagon, yellow, this songplaying on a rainy morning as
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we were getting into Oregon wewere headed to Salem, oregon.
Anyhow, just thinking aboutthat and when I pulled this
record, it always reminds me ofthat.
This is on a white.
Let me pull it out of thesleeve here.
It's a white label.
It's on let's see what is itAudition.
(14:10):
Oh, it's Audition.
Big letters.
Audition record Wow, it usuallysays radio promo.
This in big letters saysAudition record Wow, it usually
says radio promo.
This big letter says auditionrecord on Imperial Records.
66110 is the number on this.
No radio station stickers oranything like that.
No radio station markings.
On this side, danielle, let'ssee.
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Oh, now there is on this side1965, there's one sticker.
It's got another little yellowsticker says 25, whatever that
means.
And there's some other little,I don't know what that is like,
a stamp or something on thererecord looks it's harder to tell
at night looks pretty good,though looks pretty darn good.
(14:54):
I can't tell if it's mint or anexcellent shape or whatever,
but anyhow, when I play.
So I think about the the familytrip in the ford falcon station
wagon to oregon that time, um.
And then when I came, when wecame back, several my dad,
unbeknownst to my mother at thetime, had up and moved out, met
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another woman, moved the stuffout, came back, half of the
house was empty.
Now I was out for a cheerfulstory.
There you go, gee Pat, thanksfor the uplifting story.
That's just true, though it'slike 1971 or 72.
This record's 1965, but I justremember this happened in the
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early 70s anyhow, whatever.
So then, it also reminds me ofanother record, and it also
makes me think of the one of thecomposers on this particular
record, who I regard as one ofthe great musical composers of
all time, and that is BurtBacharach.
I'm a big fan.
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I'm a big fan of Burt Bacharach.
Excuse me, burt Bacharach forthose of you who do not know
again, I certainly he passedaway in 23.
American composer, he was asongwriter, he was a record
producer, he played piano andindeed he is regarded as one of
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the most important, one of themost influential composers and
artists of the 20th century ofpopular music.
One of the most influentialfigures of the 20th century no
doubt we're talking BurtBacharach is, is.
I mean he composed hundreds ofsongs, pop songs and many of
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these.
He collaborated with a lyricistby the name of Hal David and he
was brilliant and he workedwith so many great artists,
starting back in the 50s.
I mean he worked with geez boy.
There's just so many that cometo mind Right off the top of my
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head.
It would be like Dionne Warwick, maybe not in the 50s, but
certainly like in the 60s.
My head it would be like DionneWarwick, and maybe not in the
50s, but certainly like in the60s.
Um, obvious, I shouldn't sayobviously.
But Tom Jones, bj Thomas, I'mtrying to think.
But but Marty Robbins and hehad great songs.
As a kid my mom, mom, listeningin that station wagon to the AM
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radio.
You'd have these songs comingon all the time.
Dusty Springfield, I think, wasone of them.
One of the great things he did.
There's this great song calledthis Guy's in Love with you by
Herb Alpert.
This came out in 1968.
And his story has it.
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You know.
They write the song, herbAlpert, bert Bachrach, and Herb
Alpert asks or I guess heexpects that Bert or someone's
going to sing the song.
Bert Bachrach says no, you singit, herb, you sing it, herb,
you sing it.
Herb Alpert wasn't a singer,played horn, he was the band
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leader, but he sang this guy'sin love with you, burt Bacharach
, again showing why he is agenius, I mean because that song
is just a beautiful song.
Let's listen to Bert, I mean toHerb Alpert sing, and just the
musical, just the music fromBert Bacharach, tijuana Brass,
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you see this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
this guy's in love with you yes, I'm in love.
Who looks at you the way I dowhen you smile?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I can't tell you smile.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Herb Alpert singing on that.
We know each other very well.
How can I show you I'm glad Igot to know you because I've
heard some talk?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I mean you talk about .
In total, Burt Bacharach wrote52 US top 40 hits.
Remarkable Some of the hitswould be that song, this Guy's
In Love With you, 68.
Raindrops Keep Falling On myHead, bj Thomas, 1969.
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Close To you by the Carpenters,1970.
Arthur's Theme the Best you CanDo, christopher Cross, 81.
Dionne Warwick that's whatFriends Are For.
One of my least favorite, sorry, but it is, and there were
others.
So I do think about BurtBacharach.
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You know, oh, you know, what Ilove that he one of my favorites
is what's New Pussycat, tomJones.
That was a Tom Jones song, buthe would do.
He did a lot of Dionne Warwick.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
Say a little prayer, walk on by.
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These were all the records.
These were all the songsplaying on KGMS Easy listening.
If you see me walking down thestreet on my mother's AM Delco,
Playing on KGMS Easy listeningOn my mother's AM Delco or Indax
Ford radio Women.
You know, you see the women inthe beehive hairdos.
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Remember that you got the dad inthe station wagon smoking.
He's got the win-win open.
You're in the back choking, butyou know what?
It was good music to choke onsmoke by.
I always liked the DionneWarwick stuff, so just a little
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bit on the composer.
Then I want to play the recordfor you.
And then I want to play anotherthing that it reminds me of, or
at least I want to play part ofthe record.
I do not own this music, so I'mgoing to play part of this
record for you, and this is thesong that was playing on the way
to Salem, oregon, that morning.
I always love the message.
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1965, lyrics by Hal David.
Music composed by BurtBacharach, recorded, made
popular by this artist April15th of 65 excuse me on the
imperial label.
After release on the sisterlabel, liberty records, which
was the previous month, wascanceled, went to number seven
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on the US, was canceled, went tonumber seven on the US Hot 100
in July of that year.
In Canada, the song went tonumber one In 2008, the song was
inducted into the Grammy Hallof Fame.
All right, so, without furtherado, jackie to Shannon.
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What the world needs now islove.
Pat's Peeps 314.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What the world needs now is love, sweet love.
It's the only thing thatthere's just too little of.
What the world needs now islove, sweet love.
No, not just for some, but foreveryone.
(23:29):
Lord, we don't need anothermountain.
There are mountains andhillsides enough to climb.
There are oceans and riversenough to cross, enough to last
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till the end of time.
What the world needs now islove, sweet love.
It's the only thing thatthere's just too little of.
But the world needs love.
It's love, sweet love.
(24:15):
No, not just for some, but foreveryone.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
There were various cover versions of that song, but
this one from 1971, this remix,this disc jockey, tom Clay.
He was working at this radiostation, kgbs in Los Angeles,
and he creates a single.
What the World Needs Now isLove, abraham, martin and John.
So he combines with a top fivehit in 1968 by Dion, a social
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commentary that became asurprise hit record that summer.
So the song begins with a manand he's asking this young girl
to define words like bigotry,segregation and hatred.
Girl doesn't know what he'stalking about, asks about
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prejudice, and then I'll leaveit up to.
I'll let the record tell youwhat she says.
When asked about prejudice,because it's pretty good, I'll
say that Gave me the chillsStill does.
Following.
Following that, then you hear asound, a sound bite of a drill
sergeant leading a platoon intotraining.
(25:34):
Then you hear gunfire, soundeffects remember vietnam's going
on this time.
Then you hear snippets of thesetwo songs.
They're recorded by the black,which is a session recording
group, and mixed in this arespeeches, little excerpts of
speeches by JFK, robert FKennedy.
(25:56):
John F Kennedy eulogy given byTed Kennedy where he's getting
emotional.
Robert's assassination audioyou have Martin Luther King in
there.
Soundbites of the news coverageof the assassination.
Now you can see why it gave mechills when I heard this.
That song went to number eighton the Billboard Hot 100 in
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August of 71.
That must be where I heard it.
Here's how that sounds.
It starts off with what theworld needs now is love.
What is segregation?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't know what segregation is.
What is bigotry?
I don't know what bigotry is.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
What does hatred mean ?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I don't know what it is.
What is prejudice?
I think it's when somebody'ssick.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Right, this time, boys.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
One, two, three, four .
One, two, three boys.
Let me hear you shout One, two,three, four.
One, two, three, four.
I don't know what I believe.
(27:33):
I don't know what I believe.
Call me home at Christmas Eve.
Call me home at Christmas EveOne, two, three, four.
One, two, three, four.
One, two, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4.
Anybody here See my old friendJohn?
(27:54):
Can you tell me where he's gone?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
We're at the trademark.
The motorcade is coming by here.
I can see many, manymotorcycles coming by now.
Police motorcycles Just had acall on the radio For all units
along industrial.
The motorcade is coming by here.
I can see many, manymotorcycles coming by now.
Police motorcycles Just had acall on the radio for all units
along industrial to pick up themotorcade.
Something has happened here.
We understand there has been ashooting.
The presidential car coming upnow we know it's the
presidential car.
You can see Mrs Kennedy's pinksuit.
There's a Secret Service manspread eagle over the top of the
(28:25):
car.
We understand Governor and MrsConnolly are in the car with
President and Mrs Kennedy.
We can't see who has been hit,if anybody's been hit, but
apparently something is wronghere.
Something is terribly wrong.
I'm in behind the motorcadetrying to follow the notes as
though they're going to ParklandHospital.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We interrupt this program to bring you a special
bulletin Dallas Texas the Flash.
Apparently official PresidentJohn F Kennedy died at 1pm
Central Standard Time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So it goes into Martin Luther King now and it
goes through the assassinations.
I know I don't own the rightsto this.
I'm just trying to.
You know I've got to tell youI'm rights to this.
I'm just trying to.
You know, I've got to tell you.
I'm trying to educate, I'm justtrying to share this with, but
anyhow, this is Martin LutherKing.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
But it really doesn't matter with me now because I've
been to the mountaintop.
I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm going to say this .
I'm a person who enjoys audioediting and this guy, tom Clay,
did a great job.
He really thought it throughand placed the sound bites at
the precise, perfect spot withinthe music.
Good job.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Like anybody, I would like to live.
No one can be certain who nextwill suffer from some senseless
act of bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I better leave it at that.
Thank you, my friends, forlistening.
I'll play this out here.
I want to say thank you forlistening to my Pats Peeps,
number 314.
It was good getting back towork today.
Thank you to Sam Shane, billWhite, everyone I've already
thanked.
Thanks to you guys.
Surely do appreciate you.
(30:18):
I'll keep saying it over, and,over, and over and over, and I
mean it all.
Right, I'll finish this outjust for a little bit, anyhow,
and I look forward to seeing youon the radio.
That's Bobby Kennedy.
(30:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
God, senator Kennedy has been shot.
Is that possible?
Oh my God, senator Kennedy hasbeen shot.
Rafferty Johnson has a hold ofthe man who apparently has fired
the shot.
Get the gun, get the gun.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
By the way, who helped get that gun, none other
than former LA Ram Rosie Greer,who's still with us, celebrated
a birthday recently.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Stay away from the gun.
His hand is frozen.
Take a hold of his thumb andbreak it.
If you have to Get his thumb,all right, that's it, raper, get
it.
Get the gun, raper, hold him,hold him.
We don't want another Oswald.
Well, we are back.
It is the Pats Peeps podcast.
Hello, how are you?
Happy?
Tuesday, august the 12th, 2025,2025.
It's late in the day, so I'mlooking out my studio window
(00:32):
into the darkened foothills ofnorthern california, where it is
still relatively warm.
I'll tell you that over thelast week it's been very hot.
Uh, today I uh it was hot, butanyhow it's dark now.
This is one of the few timesthat I do my podcast at night,
because on a weeknight, I rarelydo my podcast on the weekend,
(00:56):
so I do it monday through fridaynormally, but tonight I'm doing
it in the evening because I hadthe opportunity to fill in for
another talk show host today,which is interesting.
I'm not a fill-in talk showhost.
I have my own show, not to brag, but I do the Pat Walsh Show,
(01:20):
which is at KFBK RadioSacramento 93.1 FM, 1530 AM.
7 to 10 PM, monday throughFriday, plus my peeps here.
Please, patspeepscom, supportyour local business.
And today, though, instead ofdoing my 7 to 10 PM slot, I
filled in for the Shane reaction, which is noon to 3.
(01:43):
That's a great time slot.
By the way, it's a verydifferent type of show, more
newsy, where you're payingattention, I'm paying attention
to a lot of the current thingsthat are happening, whether it's
insurance, fire insurance inthe state of California, and I
had guests on all dayCongressman Doug LaMalfa, part
(02:04):
of my show today on the Shanereaction, so that leaves my
nighttime open and they'replaying the best of.
By the way, instead of havingto fill in tonight for whatever
reason maybe someone was notavailable they're playing the
best of, and so I mean that'sjust the way it works out.
Sometimes Maybe I could havedone another show.
(02:25):
I don't know, but listen, noone wants to.
First of all, no one wants tohear.
That'd be like six, that'd besix hours of me.
I mean, I love you, but I knowyou love me back, because you
guys would be, wouldn't belistening and gosh, I do
appreciate you.
I um, no, no one needs thatmuch, plus a podcast.
That'd be seven hours of my day.
But so they gave me the nightoff, obviously, and that's what
(02:52):
we do.
You know someone takes the dayoff.
You need someone.
Bam, I'll come do it, why not?
We look out for one another.
I'm sure Sam would do it for me.
We have two very differentstyles of shows.
Whereas the daytime shows aremore targeted towards New
(03:14):
Zealand-type of events, whetherit's politics or whatever it
might be.
Like I just said, insuranceRecently we had Steve Moskowitz
talking about the big, beautifulbill and how it affects all of
us tax wise, to try to get anunderstanding.
You know things like that frontpage type of things, whereas on
(03:35):
my show I still do that, but II mix it up.
You know I'm always looking forsomething that slipped through
the cracks, other angles,different things, because you
know what there's other thingsgoing on in this world.
It's not all about controversyand divisiveness.
Sometimes it's about hey, howyou doing, man, let's talk some
(03:57):
music, or have you seen a goodmovie?
Or let's talk about whatevernostalgia, or what can we do to
make things better?
I don't know, we just have fun.
As many of you have said, it'sthe respite at the end of the
day, or it is the beer at theend of a long day, and I love
that role.
(04:17):
I really do, but I enjoy beingflexible, so it was fun.
Thank you to KFPK and iHeartand thank you to Sam Shane and
Bill White, luis Aquino, who isa great guy.
He is the you know, I canactually say producer.
He produces the Sam Shane, theShane reaction Boy.
(04:41):
I could get into the whole thingabout a producer.
I'm just going to say it rightnow.
You know, you listen to allthese radio shows, whether it's
Sam Shane, whether it'sArmstrong and Getty, tom
Sullivan who's now retired, youname it they all have producers.
(05:03):
I can assure you I am the onlyshow, the only host, doing a
radio show, at least that I amaware of, that has no producer.
Do you know?
I've never had a producer, andif you listen to my show and
you're going well, wait a second, you had kendall, you have, you
(05:27):
have solo.
There's a difference between atechnical producer which is
kendall or solo or some of theother great technical producers
that we have.
These are the people that youknow.
They let you know what's goingon within the show, they run the
(05:51):
board to keep us on air, theyplay the commercials, they keep
everything in order, producingthe show in that way, and I love
them and I love what they havedone for my show and I love them
and I love what they have donefor my show.
Without them, I couldn't do ithere.
(06:12):
I can run my own board on mypodcast, not in radio.
You need these very valuablepeople.
So I salute them.
But a producer, when you'retalking about an actual show
producer, there's a difference.
Those people, they, they lineup guests for you.
They have lots of ideas.
Now, what?
Now?
Kendall?
Going back to kendall, shealways had good ideas and back
(06:38):
then she spoke on the radio.
Back then that's a long storyI'm not going to get into but
she could speak on the radio.
She no longer works there.
I miss her very much.
I'm sure a bunch of theaudience does as well, but it
was out of our control.
(06:58):
But Kendall again, was atechnical producer who added a
lot of spice and a lot of valueto the show and had a lot of
great ideas.
All these other shows haveproducers.
They get the audio, they cut upthe audio.
They say Pat, have you seenthis story?
You know this is going on.
You know who my producers arefrom my show.
Being honest with you, you,what do you mean?
(07:22):
Well, because I get so muchgreat content from you.
You guys are always pointingout great content for me and
that's always very, very helpful.
Beyond that, you know, you'rejust always thinking what can I
do?
That's a little bit different,but I don't have a producer and
that's just the way it is.
I'm not going to sit here andcomplain about it, would it be
nice?
Yes, so today, when I walk in todo the Shane reaction, here's
(07:46):
Luis Aquino and he's producingand I went, oh my god, wait, a
minute.
Wait, yeah, I got this guy.
We'll go ahead and call the.
I know you wanted this guest,the congressman, so I'm going to
go ahead and try to get him on.
Bam, got him on.
Uh, I know you wanted theinsurance guy doing so we can
tell everyone about what's goingon with the fire insurance in
California.
Got him on.
(08:07):
Otherwise, it's me.
Thank God, I like what I do.
I do like what I do.
So that was awesome.
That was just to take you alittle bit behind the scenes and
how we do things there.
Beyond that, I do understandthat it's been.
This is the longest probablyI've gone without doing a peeps
(08:31):
in between peeps, and Iapologize for that.
The last time I did one wasfive days ago.
I can't even believe that, andyou know what.
You guys are still listening.
The numbers are actually verystrong.
I thank you.
Oh my, my gosh, thank you somuch.
I'm not on tonight.
I'm doing.
I'm doing the best stuff beforeI get to what I was going to
(08:51):
say, one of the reasons why Iwas off, I I wanted to also
mention that you know, scottrobinson and bc bruce campbell
fill in for my show and they doa wonderful job.
I always like when we have agood fill-in.
And I will tell you thisfilling in for a talk show for a
host that people like and enjoyis very, very difficult,
(09:15):
because you know when they'reused to a certain voice, a
certain style, and if they enjoythat, and then the music comes
on, she sells sanctuary, in thiscase the cult and and then, all
of a sudden, it's not me and Iand I don't say that to be
egotistical or narcissistic inany way, I'm just telling you
(09:37):
the reality of it.
Some people go oh wow, it patsnot on.
Tonight it's uh, you know, uh,they've got a fill-in host.
Well, I'm blessed to have twoguys who are great fill-ins.
I'd love to find a woman whocould fill in.
I'm not based this on sex oranything, I'm just saying that
it just happens to be two guys.
(09:58):
I've had women fill in for myshow as well, but currently it's
Scott and it's Bruce and theydo a great job and and again
it's.
It can be difficult to do thatand here these guys do a stellar
job and you guys listen andrespond.
So thank you for treating thosegentlemen the way you do.
I really appreciate all of that.
(10:19):
It's an interesting thing.
Being a radio talk show host.
I can't think of a lot of otheroccupations where people tell
you how you're doing at your job.
I mean, think about it.
I can't think of very many.
(10:41):
Whereas you're doing your job,people are giving you feedback
throughout the day.
I'm not talking about your bossor I'm not talking about your
co-workers.
I'm talking about just peoplewho are using, I guess consuming
, your product, in this caseradio and you guys are great,
(11:07):
always great comments, wonderfulfeedback.
Like I said earlier, you sendgreat content.
I'll get off of that.
I just want to say thank you.
All right, much gratitude.
The reason I have been sort ofmissing in action let me get a
drink here.
Oh boy, I've been so thirstylately, just lately, only
(11:29):
because it's hot.
It's not diabetes or anything,but it has been just I.
I feel like a broken recordwhen I say this, but it's true.
The dental nightmares that I gothrough my entire life, you
know.
Recently, long story short,bought some burger, made a
(11:53):
hamburger chunk of bone in aburger, busted out front left
tooth.
A few days ago, went tobreakfast, ordered breakfast
about four or five bites in bigchunk of bone.
Never saw it, almost like alittle ball of a bone bit on it,
(12:13):
busted my right tooth out.
It's just the way it is.
So I had the big dentalappointment today to see what
they can do.
I remember it was a few monthsago during Thanksgiving and
Christmas and into the NewYear's where I was missing that
front tooth.
Remember those?
Go back and listen to thosepodcasts.
(12:34):
That was the laundromatpodcasts, for something truly
different.
You'll have to go back and lookfor those in retrospect.
I was having fun doing that,but I was not having fun missing
the front tooth.
So, uh, yeah, whatever.
So that was the.
That's the heck I've been goingthrough all right, whatever
(12:58):
it's life.
You know I wanted to talk aboutthis record.
I pulled out my record shelftoday.
I'm not going to make it thisquite this short, I'm not going
to end here, but I, when Ipulled this record off the shelf
today.
This kind of brings back goodmemories and actual, very vivid
memories, just so random, thoughMeaningless to anyone else, but
(13:21):
very random, and just there itis stuck on this card in the
Rolodex of my mind from theearly 70s, going to Oregon with
my mom and my brothers andsisters in the Ford Falcon
station wagon, yellow, this songplaying on a rainy morning as
(13:44):
we were getting into Oregon wewere headed to Salem, oregon.
Anyhow, just thinking aboutthat and when I pulled this
record, it always reminds me ofthat.
This is on a white.
Let me pull it out of thesleeve here.
It's a white label.
It's on let's see what is itAudition.
(14:10):
Oh, it's Audition.
Big letters.
Audition record Wow, it usuallysays radio promo.
This in big letters saysAudition record Wow, it usually
says radio promo.
This big letter says auditionrecord on Imperial Records.
66110 is the number on this.
No radio station stickers oranything like that.
No radio station markings.
On this side, danielle, let'ssee.
(14:32):
Oh, now there is on this side1965, there's one sticker.
It's got another little yellowsticker says 25, whatever that
means.
And there's some other little,I don't know what that is like,
a stamp or something on thererecord looks it's harder to tell
at night looks pretty good,though looks pretty darn good.
(14:54):
I can't tell if it's mint or anexcellent shape or whatever,
but anyhow, when I play.
So I think about the the familytrip in the ford falcon station
wagon to oregon that time, um.
And then when I came, when wecame back, several my dad,
unbeknownst to my mother at thetime, had up and moved out, met
(15:21):
another woman, moved the stuffout, came back, half of the
house was empty.
Now I was out for a cheerfulstory.
There you go, gee Pat, thanksfor the uplifting story.
That's just true, though it'slike 1971 or 72.
This record's 1965, but I justremember this happened in the
(15:41):
early 70s anyhow, whatever.
So then, it also reminds me ofanother record, and it also
makes me think of the one of thecomposers on this particular
record, who I regard as one ofthe great musical composers of
all time, and that is BurtBacharach.
I'm a big fan.
(16:03):
I'm a big fan of Burt Bacharach.
Excuse me, burt Bacharach forthose of you who do not know
again, I certainly he passedaway in 23.
American composer, he was asongwriter, he was a record
producer, he played piano andindeed he is regarded as one of
(16:27):
the most important, one of themost influential composers and
artists of the 20th century ofpopular music.
One of the most influentialfigures of the 20th century no
doubt we're talking BurtBacharach is, is.
I mean he composed hundreds ofsongs, pop songs and many of
(16:52):
these.
He collaborated with a lyricistby the name of Hal David and he
was brilliant and he workedwith so many great artists,
starting back in the 50s.
I mean he worked with geez boy.
There's just so many that cometo mind Right off the top of my
(17:13):
head.
It would be like Dionne Warwick, maybe not in the 50s, but
certainly like in the 60s.
My head it would be like DionneWarwick, and maybe not in the
50s, but certainly like in the60s.
Um, obvious, I shouldn't sayobviously.
But Tom Jones, bj Thomas, I'mtrying to think.
But but Marty Robbins and hehad great songs.
As a kid my mom, mom, listeningin that station wagon to the AM
(17:37):
radio.
You'd have these songs comingon all the time.
Dusty Springfield, I think, wasone of them.
One of the great things he did.
There's this great song calledthis Guy's in Love with you by
Herb Alpert.
This came out in 1968.
And his story has it.
(18:01):
You know.
They write the song, herbAlpert, bert Bachrach, and Herb
Alpert asks or I guess heexpects that Bert or someone's
going to sing the song.
Bert Bachrach says no, you singit, herb, you sing it, herb,
you sing it.
Herb Alpert wasn't a singer,played horn, he was the band
(18:22):
leader, but he sang this guy'sin love with you, burt Bacharach
, again showing why he is agenius, I mean because that song
is just a beautiful song.
Let's listen to Bert, I mean toHerb Alpert sing, and just the
musical, just the music fromBert Bacharach, tijuana Brass,
(18:52):
you see this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
this guy's in love with you yes, I'm in love.
Who looks at you the way I dowhen you smile?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I can't tell you smile.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Herb Alpert singing on that.
We know each other very well.
How can I show you I'm glad Igot to know you because I've
heard some talk?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I mean you talk about .
In total, Burt Bacharach wrote52 US top 40 hits.
Remarkable Some of the hitswould be that song, this Guy's
In Love With you, 68.
Raindrops Keep Falling On myHead, bj Thomas, 1969.
(20:02):
Close To you by the Carpenters,1970.
Arthur's Theme the Best you CanDo, christopher Cross, 81.
Dionne Warwick that's whatFriends Are For.
One of my least favorite, sorry, but it is, and there were
others.
So I do think about BurtBacharach.
(20:25):
You know, oh, you know, what Ilove that he one of my favorites
is what's New Pussycat, tomJones.
That was a Tom Jones song, buthe would do.
He did a lot of Dionne Warwick.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
Say a little prayer, walk on by.
(20:48):
These were all the records.
These were all the songsplaying on KGMS Easy listening.
If you see me walking down thestreet on my mother's AM Delco,
Playing on KGMS Easy listeningOn my mother's AM Delco or Indax
Ford radio Women.
You know, you see the women inthe beehive hairdos.
(21:11):
Remember that you got the dad inthe station wagon smoking.
He's got the win-win open.
You're in the back choking, butyou know what?
It was good music to choke onsmoke by.
I always liked the DionneWarwick stuff, so just a little
(21:39):
bit on the composer.
Then I want to play the recordfor you.
And then I want to play anotherthing that it reminds me of, or
at least I want to play part ofthe record.
I do not own this music, so I'mgoing to play part of this
record for you, and this is thesong that was playing on the way
to Salem, oregon, that morning.
I always love the message.
(22:01):
1965, lyrics by Hal David.
Music composed by BurtBacharach, recorded, made
popular by this artist April15th of 65 excuse me on the
imperial label.
After release on the sisterlabel, liberty records, which
was the previous month, wascanceled, went to number seven
(22:24):
on the US, was canceled, went tonumber seven on the US Hot 100
in July of that year.
In Canada, the song went tonumber one In 2008, the song was
inducted into the Grammy Hallof Fame.
All right, so, without furtherado, jackie to Shannon.
(22:50):
What the world needs now islove.
Pat's Peeps 314.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What the world needs now is love, sweet love.
It's the only thing thatthere's just too little of.
What the world needs now islove, sweet love.
No, not just for some, but foreveryone.
(23:29):
Lord, we don't need anothermountain.
There are mountains andhillsides enough to climb.
There are oceans and riversenough to cross, enough to last
(23:52):
till the end of time.
What the world needs now islove, sweet love.
It's the only thing thatthere's just too little of.
But the world needs love.
It's love, sweet love.
(24:15):
No, not just for some, but foreveryone.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
There were various cover versions of that song, but
this one from 1971, this remix,this disc jockey, tom Clay.
He was working at this radiostation, kgbs in Los Angeles,
and he creates a single.
What the World Needs Now isLove, abraham, martin and John.
So he combines with a top fivehit in 1968 by Dion, a social
(24:49):
commentary that became asurprise hit record that summer.
So the song begins with a manand he's asking this young girl
to define words like bigotry,segregation and hatred.
Girl doesn't know what he'stalking about, asks about
(25:12):
prejudice, and then I'll leaveit up to.
I'll let the record tell youwhat she says.
When asked about prejudice,because it's pretty good, I'll
say that Gave me the chillsStill does.
Following.
Following that, then you hear asound, a sound bite of a drill
sergeant leading a platoon intotraining.
(25:34):
Then you hear gunfire, soundeffects remember vietnam's going
on this time.
Then you hear snippets of thesetwo songs.
They're recorded by the black,which is a session recording
group, and mixed in this arespeeches, little excerpts of
speeches by JFK, robert FKennedy.
(25:56):
John F Kennedy eulogy given byTed Kennedy where he's getting
emotional.
Robert's assassination audioyou have Martin Luther King in
there.
Soundbites of the news coverageof the assassination.
Now you can see why it gave mechills when I heard this.
That song went to number eighton the Billboard Hot 100 in
(26:19):
August of 71.
That must be where I heard it.
Here's how that sounds.
It starts off with what theworld needs now is love.
What is segregation?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't know what segregation is.
What is bigotry?
I don't know what bigotry is.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
What does hatred mean ?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I don't know what it is.
What is prejudice?
I think it's when somebody'ssick.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Right, this time, boys.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
One, two, three, four .
One, two, three boys.
Let me hear you shout One, two,three, four.
One, two, three, four.
I don't know what I believe.
(27:33):
I don't know what I believe.
Call me home at Christmas Eve.
Call me home at Christmas EveOne, two, three, four.
One, two, three, four.
One, two, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4.
Anybody here See my old friendJohn?
(27:54):
Can you tell me where he's gone?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
We're at the trademark.
The motorcade is coming by here.
I can see many, manymotorcycles coming by now.
Police motorcycles Just had acall on the radio For all units
along industrial.
The motorcade is coming by here.
I can see many, manymotorcycles coming by now.
Police motorcycles Just had acall on the radio for all units
along industrial to pick up themotorcade.
Something has happened here.
We understand there has been ashooting.
The presidential car coming upnow we know it's the
presidential car.
You can see Mrs Kennedy's pinksuit.
There's a Secret Service manspread eagle over the top of the
(28:25):
car.
We understand Governor and MrsConnolly are in the car with
President and Mrs Kennedy.
We can't see who has been hit,if anybody's been hit, but
apparently something is wronghere.
Something is terribly wrong.
I'm in behind the motorcadetrying to follow the notes as
though they're going to ParklandHospital.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We interrupt this program to bring you a special
bulletin Dallas Texas the Flash.
Apparently official PresidentJohn F Kennedy died at 1pm
Central Standard Time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So it goes into Martin Luther King now and it
goes through the assassinations.
I know I don't own the rightsto this.
I'm just trying to.
You know I've got to tell youI'm rights to this.
I'm just trying to.
You know, I've got to tell you.
I'm trying to educate, I'm justtrying to share this with, but
anyhow, this is Martin LutherKing.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
But it really doesn't matter with me now because I've
been to the mountaintop.
I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm going to say this .
I'm a person who enjoys audioediting and this guy, tom Clay,
did a great job.
He really thought it throughand placed the sound bites at
the precise, perfect spot withinthe music.
Good job.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Like anybody, I would like to live.
No one can be certain who nextwill suffer from some senseless
act of bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I better leave it at that.
Thank you, my friends, forlistening.
I'll play this out here.
I want to say thank you forlistening to my Pats Peeps,
number 314.
It was good getting back towork today.
Thank you to Sam Shane, billWhite, everyone I've already
thanked.
Thanks to you guys.
Surely do appreciate you.
(30:18):
I'll keep saying it over, and,over, and over and over, and I
mean it all.
Right, I'll finish this outjust for a little bit, anyhow,
and I look forward to seeing youon the radio.
That's Bobby Kennedy.
(30:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
God, senator Kennedy has been shot.
Is that possible?
Oh my God, senator Kennedy hasbeen shot.
Rafferty Johnson has a hold ofthe man who apparently has fired
the shot.
Get the gun, get the gun.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
By the way, who helped get that gun, none other
than former LA Ram Rosie Greer,who's still with us, celebrated
a birthday recently.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Stay away from the gun.
His hand is frozen.
Take a hold of his thumb andbreak it.
If you have to Get his thumb,all right, that's it, raper, get
it.
Get the gun, raper, hold him,hold him.
We don't want another Oswald.
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