Thunder rolled across Northern California as Pat Walsh settled into day two of his vacation, recording episode 322 of Pat's Peeps podcast while reflecting on the unexpected weather shift. The peaceful rainstorm served as a stark contrast to the brewing storm in professional sports that dominated this episode's discussion.
At the heart of the podcast lies a critical examination of how the NFL has transformed from pure athletic competition to a platform for social messaging. Walsh unpacks the league's mandate requiring all 32 teams to stencil social justice phrases like "End Racism" and "Choose Love" in their end zones. With genuine nostalgia, he recalls the golden era of sports when fans could cheer for legends like Joe Montana and Walter Payton without knowing their political affiliations – when the focus remained purely on athletic excellence and the game itself.
The conversation dives deep into Colin Kaepernick's controversial legacy, from his kneeling protests to his Netflix documentary comparing the NFL draft to slavery. Walsh doesn't hold back, sharing clips from Black commentators who also criticized Kaepernick's stance, highlighting the complexity of the issue beyond simple political lines. The podcast raises profound questions about whether these mandatory messages actually create meaningful change or simply alienate fans seeking an escape from political discourse.
Between weightier topics, Walsh shares a lighter moment exploring a rare Stevie Wonder EP from the "Songs in the Key of Life" era, expressing his genuine disappointment with tracks that clearly didn't make the album's final cut for good reason. This musical interlude provides perfect balance to an episode otherwise concerned with the collision of sports, politics, and social justice.
Whether you're a sports fan troubled by the NFL's evolving approach to social issues or simply curious about the changing landscape of American athletics, this episode offers thoughtful commentary on where we've been and where we're heading. Subscribe to Pat's Peeps for more unfiltered conversations at the intersection of culture, sports, and everyday life.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Welcome to the Pats Peeps podcast.
How are you?
Welcome to the Pat's Peepspodcast.
How are you?
This is Pat's Peeps, number 322here on the 26th day of August
2025.
What a day it has been.
Looking out the studio windowinto the beautiful foothills of
(00:42):
Northern California, looking outthe studio window into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia, it is dark.
I'm doing this at night, lateat night, but the day started
off really with a surprisinglittle twist, weather-wise
Lightning and thunder and rain,cooler temperatures.
It was absolutely beautiful.
(01:03):
It was absolutely beautiful.
It was so nice.
And this is a Tuesday.
I love the little weatherchange.
I posted a little video of iton Facebook.
My name is Pat Walsh.
I'm the host of the Pat WalshShow, as heard on KFPK Radio in
(01:25):
Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM,and I'm on vacation.
So this is day two of myvacation being Tuesday, and then
next Monday is Labor Day.
So I still have a few days offand I'm just kind of loving not
having to do anything right nowother than my podcast in lieu of
my radio show.
Thank you to Bruce Campbell, bcfor filling in.
(01:48):
Thank you to Scott Robinson forfilling in and please, the big
news yesterday here on Pat'sPeeps.
Please go to patspeepscom orjust go into Rock and Soul R-O-C
and then that and sign that yousee on the keyboard SOL, s-o-l
(02:08):
and get two-for-one dinners byjust mentioning Pat's Peeps and
that's going through September30th.
And if you do that, as I saidyesterday, that would be huge
for my business.
For that business it gives youa free meal.
So we're trying to bust theinflation here.
By the way, on this Tuesday wehave new music, my friends,
(02:30):
right here, exclusively on Pat'sPeeps.
Pat's Peeps 322.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Gavin Newsom, tell me , can we trust your way?
While crime's on the rise, youjust sit and play.
(03:10):
This land's for the people, notthe suits on the hill.
Make crime illegal.
Let's harness the will.
California dreamin', but it'swakin' nightmares.
Politicians lie while they playin their chairs.
Crime's creepin' forward.
Can't let it invade America.
First.
Let's start a crusade.
Restore the order, make justicethe law, fighting for the
future.
(03:31):
We'll rise from the floor.
Gavin Newsom, tell me, can wetrust your way?
While crime's on the rise, youjust sit and play.
This land's for the people, notthe suits on the hill.
Make crime illegal.
Let's harness the will Together.
Insane Just called you a name,so it's sex, like you know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Life's gathered to fight an article by cory brooks
(04:24):
uh, this is from Fox News todayand what he's talking, what
Corey is talking about is thefact that the NFL which, by the
way, it kicks off not thisweekend but the next weekend I
love the NFL and I'm not goingto let clowns ruin that for me,
because I've loved the NFL sinceI was a kid major league
(04:48):
baseball in the NFL and so whathe's talking about here he's not
a clown.
I actually agree with what he'ssaying 100%.
He was talking about somepeople have turned away from the
league.
They find that it's too woke,ever since Colin Kaepernick.
But he was talking about.
(05:09):
Corey was talking about in thisarticle that he was reading
about what the NFL is doing andwhat they're requiring, and that
they are dead set on stickingwith the woke and the fact that
all 32 teams must this isrequired stencil a social
(05:33):
justice message into their endzones.
I've seen this for years and,let's not forget, it's on the
back of most of the team'shelmets too.
So we're talking about thesocial justice messages and they
have to pick from one of fourof these messages and racism
(05:54):
choose love, inspire change andstop hate.
Oh, and it takes all of us willbe the message in the opposing
end zone.
So by putting and stencilingthese in the end zone, suddenly
someone's going to look at itand go well, wait a minute.
(06:15):
That's a good point.
I should stop being racist,Honey it looks right there it
says in racism Okay, all rightIf you say so, I I didn't even
consider that.
But since the NFL has itstenciled in the freaking end
zone, choose love.
I've always chosen, chosen hate.
(06:36):
But okay, nfl, if you say so,golly, shucks.
Inspire, change, change, stopit, shut up.
If you remember the 1980s, thinkabout this Back in the 70s.
I mean, how far do you go backwatching the 60s, the 70s, the
80s?
Guess what?
You didn't know what any personon that field, what their
(07:02):
politics were.
You didn't know.
You watched Joe Montana, ninerfans you watched Joe because he
was Joe Montana, dwight Clarkand these guys because they were
on your favorite team, the49ers.
He didn't care what theirpolitical affiliation was or
(07:26):
what they felt about LGBTQ, andthat was before all of that man.
You had class act, like WalterPayton back then, bo Jackson
carrying the flag for millionsof football fans.
You couldn't tell theirpolitics.
It was just sports.
(07:46):
We were inspired by greatathletes.
Going back to the article'spoint, the people playing the
game dreamt of this.
This was a dream come true,something they'd been striving
for forever and very few peopleare able to achieve this.
Football or baseball, greatness, hockey, any of these sports,
(08:12):
nba.
You got to work and you'reworking because you really want
to get to that level, because,again, you have a dream.
Here come the come the 2010s.
Wow, this is where everythingwent awry, and you know what I'm
talking about.
This colin kaepernick with thisridiculous, meaningless
(08:36):
kneeling protest.
You're so inspirational, colin,wearing your depicting police
officers as pigs, comparing theNFL and the league to being a
slave.
It was a joke.
(08:58):
He goes out there to throwpasses to impress teams.
After he calls the league slavedrivers and compares it to
slavery.
He wears a shirt out there tothrow passes and it's a black
t-shirt.
And on the black t-shirt itsays Kunta Kinte.
Go back and look, guy, turnedpress conferences into
(09:19):
referendums on policing.
And then the NFL in 2021, well,I don't know if it was 2021, but
I do know that in 2021 becausethe NFL ended up caving into
this.
Obviously, that's why you'reseeing these social media
messages in the end zone.
But in 21, you had Kaepernickwith his ridiculous show, colin
(09:44):
in Black and White again, wherehe equated the NFL draft with
slavery.
You talk about absolutelyridiculous hypocrisy.
You got a multimillion-dollarquarterback who went to the
Super Bowl, lost it to theRavens living a dream come true,
(10:05):
raised in the Californiasuburbs, but suddenly he's a
victim of Whitey, dressed up inhis fake black power suit, and
he's again telling us thatmodern-day football is
modern-day slavery.
Then after that, of course,george Floyd we all know what
(10:29):
happened there.
So everything blows up Now,every criminal that runs, he
goes.
I can't breathe.
On behalf of Georgeorge floyd,watch youtube, I'm not making
this up, they do.
Then you had a low point wherethe nfl commissioner, roger
goodell, takes a knee andapologizes for not taking, as
(10:51):
cory in this article says,charlatans like Kaepernick more
seriously.
So what does the NFL do?
They commit millions of dollarsin the name of George Floyd to
address systematic racism.
Hey, nfl, this is why peoplehave turned away from you Now.
I hate to be a downer whenNFL's coming up in two weeks.
(11:15):
Well, pat, how do you feel about?
Well, I'm trying to tell youthat, that I will not let
someone like Roger Goodell orColin Kaepernick ruin my love
for my team and the sport.
You can try, but I just needthem to know that your
ridiculous, asinine statementsin the end zone mean nothing to
(11:37):
me and to many other people.
It's woke.
Guess what too.
It goes both ways All races andracism, yeah, overall, every
race, every race.
So when you go back to the BLMand the Black Lives Matter and
(11:59):
all the politics and the GeorgeFloyd and the demonstrations and
all the burning the cities, youknow what we're talking, you
know.
So it's interesting to me that,yeah, and then in his little
documentary he this is this isjust appalling.
This is what he had to say,part of what he had to say
(12:22):
Before they put you on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Teams poke pride and examine you, searching for any
defect that might affect yourperformance.
No boundary respected.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You mean, oh really, that might affect your
performance.
Any defect before they, I don'tknow, pay you millions of
dollars.
It's okay to make sure that.
Oh, and here's the other thingthe last time I checked and I do
watch a lot of football hey,not all the players are black.
I see a lot of white boys andpeople of various races play in
(12:56):
the game.
So quit, acting like everyplayer is a black slave.
No dignity left intact.
Really no dignity left intact.
That's incredible.
But, pat, you're just an oldwhite guy.
Well, let's hear from RuinedLeon on YouTube.
(13:18):
He happens to be black.
What are his thoughts on this?
Let's just take a listen here,shall we?
Let me see if I got this right.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
A dude who participated in the NFL and then
made a public stunt of tryingto get a workout so that he
could go back to the nfl.
After what?
Three, maybe even two years ofnot being mentioned anywhere in
the sports world comes out ofthin air with a netflix
(13:48):
documentary about how his lifesucked, even though he was with
a rich white family.
To let you all know that theNFL combine and trying to get
drafted and trying to work inthe NFL where you could make
millions of dollars is theequivalent to slavery.
Why is this one of the peoplethat you pride in being one of
(14:13):
the good ones?
Why is this person sittingthere and embarrassing the black
community?
Why is somebody who activelyworked for this organization,
this league, this company,whatever you want to call the
NFL sitting here and saying, hey, all of you that are trying to
get here, you're trying tofollow your dreams.
You want to be the next OdellBeckham, tom Brady, drew Brees,
(14:35):
peyton Manning, any of theselegends.
You want to be the next versionof them.
Guess what?
You're contributing to slavery.
You're selling yourself, you'regetting poked, prodded, you're
being examined so that a teamcould select you in a draft
where you could make millionsplaying in a game.
That's your dream, that'ssomething you wanted to do, and
(14:57):
so that in and of itself isequal to slavery.
I could sit here and laugh atthis dude for literal hours, at
how stupid all of that justsounded, but I'm embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed that this dudeshares my skin complexion and is
walking around claiming thathe's so woke and he knows the
true black experience and everysingle thing that upsets him is
(15:19):
a product of slavery.
This dude is embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And then, not long after that, what does he do?
According to ABC News and everyother resource he goes out
tries to get a job in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Colin Kaepernick and the media circus that has become
his comeback tryout for the NFL.
Abc's Kaylee Hartung has moreon how it went.
Colin Kaepernick showing offhis talent on his own terms,
with his own camera crew rollingin front of representatives
from eight NFL teams, the mediaand fans.
The polarizing quarterbackthrowing passes for nearly 40
(15:51):
minutes on this high schoolfootball field Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I've been ready for three years To be a slave.
I've been denied for threeyears To be a slave.
I've been denied for threeyears what denied to be a slave.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
This after Kaepernick called an audible Saturday
afternoon.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Wearing a Kunta Kinte t-shirt.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Moving the location of an NFL-sanctioned workout 59
miles from the Falcons' practicefacility, just a half hour
before it was set to begin Ourbiggest thing with everything
today was making sure we hadtransparency in what went on.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You mean that you were, you're a slave and you're
trying to be a slave again?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We weren't getting that elsewhere.
So, we came out here to do what?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
to try to be a slave.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm saying multiple disagreements with the NFL led
to the sudden change in plans.
The NFL challenging that claim,saying we are disappointed that
Colin did not appear for hisworkout for a slave meeting
informed us of that decisiontoday, along with the public.
Frankly, I think it angered theNFL.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But Colin Kaepernick, adam Schefter, with a body, an
entity that hadn't cooperatedwith him for the past three
years, when he has not beenallowed back into the NFL anyhow
.
That's enough time.
On Colin Kaepernick, I justwanted to point out Cory Brooks
article, which I agree with hisopinion piece with Fox News that
came out today.
(17:00):
So if you want to check thatout for yourself, it's a very
good article.
But it is true, all 32 teamsmust stencil a social justice
message in their end zones athome games.
Those were their choices Endracism, stop hate.
Hey, choose love, inspirechange.
I wonder how much crime wentdown in baltimore when they told
(17:24):
them they could no longer havethe team known as the baltimore
bullets in the nba or the aba,whatever it was.
I wonder if crime went down.
I'd love to see, see the stats.
Well, it's not called thebullets anymore.
Crime should go down.
It's ridiculous.
And speaking of NFL news, thereis news with the Cleveland
Browns.
All they could talk about inthe offseason was Aaron Rodgers
(17:46):
and Shador Sanders, who ended upgoing with the Cleveland Browns
, who have traded a quarterbackafter making the decision on
Shador.
So now this will restructureeverything with the Browns, who
have been losers forever andever, can never get a solid
quarterback.
But apparently they have faithin Shador Sanders, the Deion's
(18:09):
kid, as they've traded awayKenny Pickett, the quarterback,
to the Vegas Raiders for a fifthround pick for next year.
So for the Browns if anyoneeven cares about the Browns uh,
this means that it simplifiestheir quarterback rotation.
They'll keep four quarterbacksJoe Flacco will get the starting
(18:29):
job, dylan Gabriel and then sothey added Tyler Huntley to the
quarterback room during thepreseason.
Whatever it's preseason, wehave NFL starting in two weeks.
From the shelves of the rarerecords, I pulled this one off
the shelves today and thisreally is a rare one.
This is on Tomler Records.
(18:50):
It's the same exact size as a45.
However, it has four songs onthis and it's a 33 and a third
rpm.
So it's the same as an album, a12 inch record, but this is in
a 7 inch 45 format, two songs oneach side, and these songs are
(19:11):
from a very popular record fromthe mid 70s, 1976.
The album was releasedseptember 28th of 76, tomla, a
division of motown, recorded atthe crystal sound studio in
hollywood, some sessionsrecorded at the record plant in
(19:31):
sausalito hit factory in newyork, so at various places, and
the album has been regarded bymusic journalists as the
culmination of this artist'sclassic period of recording.
The previous year, at 74, thisartist was one of the most
successful figures in popularmusic and that these years of
(19:51):
his songs, right in that time,were so good before this album
came out.
And of course this was verypopular as well.
I don't know that any of thesongs really on this particular
record I'm about to play, Idon't think any of them are hits
.
I don't believe they are.
This is a double LP and afour-song bonus EP, which is
(20:17):
this that I'm holding in my hand.
The rare four song bonus EPdebuted at number one on the
Billboard 200 chart, became onlythe third album to achieve that
feat, the first by an Americanartist.
The lead single, which I lovethis song I will tell you in a
(20:39):
second.
You'll know exactly what I'mtalking about and then the
follow-up single went to numberone on the Billboard Hot 100.
Spent 13 consecutive weeks atnumber one.
So those two songs would be IWish and Sir Duke, which of
(20:59):
course means I'm talking aboutStevie Wonder.
So let me play the four songson this EP.
The first one, and there are noradio station stickers on this,
nothing of any kind, just arecord with the songs.
All right, this is, and I havenot listened to these.
(21:19):
I don't know what these soundlike.
Song called Saturn.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I can my bags on the way to a place where the air is
clean and sad.
There's no sense to sit andwatch people die.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Never heard this.
Wow, there's no sense to keepon doing such crime.
(22:27):
I can honestly say I don'treally care for that.
I'm sorry.
Wow, all right, here it is.
Here's something Ebony.
You know, when I think of EbonyEyes, I think of Bob Welch,
formerly of Fleetwood Mac, buthe had a song called Ebony Eyes.
It can't be the same song.
Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
She's a mischievous woman, a girl that others wish
that they could be.
If there's seven wonders of theworld, then I know she's got to
be number one, wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's different.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
She's the sunflower from nature's seed, a girl that
some men only find in theirdreams.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
When she smiles, it seems the stars are now I'm just
not sure what to make of it.
What?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
do you make of?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
that?
I don't, I'm not sure.
Okay of it.
What do you make of that?
I don't, I'm not sure.
Okay that let's flip it over.
This is, um, all day sucker.
Never heard these.
All right, all day sucker.
Stevie wonder.
Songs in the key of life.
Here we go.
Okay.
Now come on Last one, becauseyou can't slow.
(24:41):
Is it just me?
You seem very quirky.
Either I'm off or these songsare.
It could be me, I don't knowwho.
Am I to doubt Stevie Wonder?
It just sounds like songs thatjust didn't make the cut, you
know, like Coda by Led Zeppelin.
(25:03):
All right, here's the final one.
We'll go out with this one EasyGoing Evening, which is
precisely what I hope for youand for me, and I really thank
you so much for listening to thePats Peeps and paying attention
to our businesses.
So here it is Easy GoingEvening.
Let's check this one out.
(25:37):
They all just sound off to me.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm going crazy right now.
What, come on?
I can honestly see why this wasan EP.
(26:01):
I think they put these songsthat just didn't make the cut
and said, hey, we're going torelease an EP, we need a place
to put these songs.
I don't know why.
You know I love Stevie Wonder,but I'm 0 for 4 on this record.
That's 0 for me on this record.
(26:22):
That's zero for me.
I would never listen to thisNever.
Oh well, que sera sera.
But I sure appreciate youlistening too, like I said, to
the podcast, I'll keep enjoyinga relaxing week off.
We'll see you tomorrow forPat's Peeps 323.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It's just off.
Welcome to the Pats Peeps podcast.
How are you?
Welcome to the Pat's Peepspodcast.
How are you?
This is Pat's Peeps, number 322here on the 26th day of August
2025.
What a day it has been.
Looking out the studio windowinto the beautiful foothills of
(00:42):
Northern California, looking outthe studio window into the
beautiful foothills of NorthernCalifornia, it is dark.
I'm doing this at night, lateat night, but the day started
off really with a surprisinglittle twist, weather-wise
Lightning and thunder and rain,cooler temperatures.
It was absolutely beautiful.
(01:03):
It was absolutely beautiful.
It was so nice.
And this is a Tuesday.
I love the little weatherchange.
I posted a little video of iton Facebook.
My name is Pat Walsh.
I'm the host of the Pat WalshShow, as heard on KFPK Radio in
(01:25):
Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM,and I'm on vacation.
So this is day two of myvacation being Tuesday, and then
next Monday is Labor Day.
So I still have a few days offand I'm just kind of loving not
having to do anything right nowother than my podcast in lieu of
my radio show.
Thank you to Bruce Campbell, bcfor filling in.
(01:48):
Thank you to Scott Robinson forfilling in and please, the big
news yesterday here on Pat'sPeeps.
Please go to patspeepscom orjust go into Rock and Soul R-O-C
and then that and sign that yousee on the keyboard SOL, s-o-l
(02:08):
and get two-for-one dinners byjust mentioning Pat's Peeps and
that's going through September30th.
And if you do that, as I saidyesterday, that would be huge
for my business.
For that business it gives youa free meal.
So we're trying to bust theinflation here.
By the way, on this Tuesday wehave new music, my friends,
(02:30):
right here, exclusively on Pat'sPeeps.
Pat's Peeps 322.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Gavin Newsom, tell me , can we trust your way?
While crime's on the rise, youjust sit and play.
(03:10):
This land's for the people, notthe suits on the hill.
Make crime illegal.
Let's harness the will.
California dreamin', but it'swakin' nightmares.
Politicians lie while they playin their chairs.
Crime's creepin' forward.
Can't let it invade America.
First.
Let's start a crusade.
Restore the order, make justicethe law, fighting for the
future.
(03:31):
We'll rise from the floor.
Gavin Newsom, tell me, can wetrust your way?
While crime's on the rise, youjust sit and play.
This land's for the people, notthe suits on the hill.
Make crime illegal.
Let's harness the will Together.
Insane Just called you a name,so it's sex, like you know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Life's gathered to fight an article by cory brooks
(04:24):
uh, this is from Fox News todayand what he's talking, what
Corey is talking about is thefact that the NFL which, by the
way, it kicks off not thisweekend but the next weekend I
love the NFL and I'm not goingto let clowns ruin that for me,
because I've loved the NFL sinceI was a kid major league
(04:48):
baseball in the NFL and so whathe's talking about here he's not
a clown.
I actually agree with what he'ssaying 100%.
He was talking about somepeople have turned away from the
league.
They find that it's too woke,ever since Colin Kaepernick.
But he was talking about.
(05:09):
Corey was talking about in thisarticle that he was reading
about what the NFL is doing andwhat they're requiring, and that
they are dead set on stickingwith the woke and the fact that
all 32 teams must this isrequired stencil a social
(05:33):
justice message into their endzones.
I've seen this for years and,let's not forget, it's on the
back of most of the team'shelmets too.
So we're talking about thesocial justice messages and they
have to pick from one of fourof these messages and racism
(05:54):
choose love, inspire change andstop hate.
Oh, and it takes all of us willbe the message in the opposing
end zone.
So by putting and stencilingthese in the end zone, suddenly
someone's going to look at itand go well, wait a minute.
(06:15):
That's a good point.
I should stop being racist,Honey it looks right there it
says in racism Okay, all rightIf you say so, I I didn't even
consider that.
But since the NFL has itstenciled in the freaking end
zone, choose love.
I've always chosen, chosen hate.
(06:36):
But okay, nfl, if you say so,golly, shucks.
Inspire, change, change, stopit, shut up.
If you remember the 1980s, thinkabout this Back in the 70s.
I mean, how far do you go backwatching the 60s, the 70s, the
80s?
Guess what?
You didn't know what any personon that field, what their
(07:02):
politics were.
You didn't know.
You watched Joe Montana, ninerfans you watched Joe because he
was Joe Montana, dwight Clarkand these guys because they were
on your favorite team, the49ers.
He didn't care what theirpolitical affiliation was or
(07:26):
what they felt about LGBTQ, andthat was before all of that man.
You had class act, like WalterPayton back then, bo Jackson
carrying the flag for millionsof football fans.
You couldn't tell theirpolitics.
It was just sports.
(07:46):
We were inspired by greatathletes.
Going back to the article'spoint, the people playing the
game dreamt of this.
This was a dream come true,something they'd been striving
for forever and very few peopleare able to achieve this.
Football or baseball, greatness, hockey, any of these sports,
(08:12):
nba.
You got to work and you'reworking because you really want
to get to that level, because,again, you have a dream.
Here come the come the 2010s.
Wow, this is where everythingwent awry, and you know what I'm
talking about.
This colin kaepernick with thisridiculous, meaningless
(08:36):
kneeling protest.
You're so inspirational, colin,wearing your depicting police
officers as pigs, comparing theNFL and the league to being a
slave.
It was a joke.
(08:58):
He goes out there to throwpasses to impress teams.
After he calls the league slavedrivers and compares it to
slavery.
He wears a shirt out there tothrow passes and it's a black
t-shirt.
And on the black t-shirt itsays Kunta Kinte.
Go back and look, guy, turnedpress conferences into
(09:19):
referendums on policing.
And then the NFL in 2021, well,I don't know if it was 2021, but
I do know that in 2021 becausethe NFL ended up caving into
this.
Obviously, that's why you'reseeing these social media
messages in the end zone.
But in 21, you had Kaepernickwith his ridiculous show, colin
(09:44):
in Black and White again, wherehe equated the NFL draft with
slavery.
You talk about absolutelyridiculous hypocrisy.
You got a multimillion-dollarquarterback who went to the
Super Bowl, lost it to theRavens living a dream come true,
(10:05):
raised in the Californiasuburbs, but suddenly he's a
victim of Whitey, dressed up inhis fake black power suit, and
he's again telling us thatmodern-day football is
modern-day slavery.
Then after that, of course,george Floyd we all know what
(10:29):
happened there.
So everything blows up Now,every criminal that runs, he
goes.
I can't breathe.
On behalf of Georgeorge floyd,watch youtube, I'm not making
this up, they do.
Then you had a low point wherethe nfl commissioner, roger
goodell, takes a knee andapologizes for not taking, as
(10:51):
cory in this article says,charlatans like Kaepernick more
seriously.
So what does the NFL do?
They commit millions of dollarsin the name of George Floyd to
address systematic racism.
Hey, nfl, this is why peoplehave turned away from you Now.
I hate to be a downer whenNFL's coming up in two weeks.
(11:15):
Well, pat, how do you feel about?
Well, I'm trying to tell youthat, that I will not let
someone like Roger Goodell orColin Kaepernick ruin my love
for my team and the sport.
You can try, but I just needthem to know that your
ridiculous, asinine statementsin the end zone mean nothing to
(11:37):
me and to many other people.
It's woke.
Guess what too.
It goes both ways All races andracism, yeah, overall, every
race, every race.
So when you go back to the BLMand the Black Lives Matter and
(11:59):
all the politics and the GeorgeFloyd and the demonstrations and
all the burning the cities, youknow what we're talking, you
know.
So it's interesting to me that,yeah, and then in his little
documentary he this is this isjust appalling.
This is what he had to say,part of what he had to say
(12:22):
Before they put you on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Teams poke pride and examine you, searching for any
defect that might affect yourperformance.
No boundary respected.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You mean, oh really, that might affect your
performance.
Any defect before they, I don'tknow, pay you millions of
dollars.
It's okay to make sure that.
Oh, and here's the other thingthe last time I checked and I do
watch a lot of football hey,not all the players are black.
I see a lot of white boys andpeople of various races play in
(12:56):
the game.
So quit, acting like everyplayer is a black slave.
No dignity left intact.
Really no dignity left intact.
That's incredible.
But, pat, you're just an oldwhite guy.
Well, let's hear from RuinedLeon on YouTube.
(13:18):
He happens to be black.
What are his thoughts on this?
Let's just take a listen here,shall we?
Let me see if I got this right.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
A dude who participated in the NFL and then
made a public stunt of tryingto get a workout so that he
could go back to the nfl.
After what?
Three, maybe even two years ofnot being mentioned anywhere in
the sports world comes out ofthin air with a netflix
(13:48):
documentary about how his lifesucked, even though he was with
a rich white family.
To let you all know that theNFL combine and trying to get
drafted and trying to work inthe NFL where you could make
millions of dollars is theequivalent to slavery.
Why is this one of the peoplethat you pride in being one of
(14:13):
the good ones?
Why is this person sittingthere and embarrassing the black
community?
Why is somebody who activelyworked for this organization,
this league, this company,whatever you want to call the
NFL sitting here and saying, hey, all of you that are trying to
get here, you're trying tofollow your dreams.
You want to be the next OdellBeckham, tom Brady, drew Brees,
(14:35):
peyton Manning, any of theselegends.
You want to be the next versionof them.
Guess what?
You're contributing to slavery.
You're selling yourself, you'regetting poked, prodded, you're
being examined so that a teamcould select you in a draft
where you could make millionsplaying in a game.
That's your dream, that'ssomething you wanted to do, and
(14:57):
so that in and of itself isequal to slavery.
I could sit here and laugh atthis dude for literal hours, at
how stupid all of that justsounded, but I'm embarrassed.
I'm embarrassed that this dudeshares my skin complexion and is
walking around claiming thathe's so woke and he knows the
true black experience and everysingle thing that upsets him is
(15:19):
a product of slavery.
This dude is embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And then, not long after that, what does he do?
According to ABC News and everyother resource he goes out
tries to get a job in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Colin Kaepernick and the media circus that has become
his comeback tryout for the NFL.
Abc's Kaylee Hartung has moreon how it went.
Colin Kaepernick showing offhis talent on his own terms,
with his own camera crew rollingin front of representatives
from eight NFL teams, the mediaand fans.
The polarizing quarterbackthrowing passes for nearly 40
(15:51):
minutes on this high schoolfootball field Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I've been ready for three years To be a slave.
I've been denied for threeyears To be a slave.
I've been denied for threeyears what denied to be a slave.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
This after Kaepernick called an audible Saturday
afternoon.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Wearing a Kunta Kinte t-shirt.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Moving the location of an NFL-sanctioned workout 59
miles from the Falcons' practicefacility, just a half hour
before it was set to begin Ourbiggest thing with everything
today was making sure we hadtransparency in what went on.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You mean that you were, you're a slave and you're
trying to be a slave again?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We weren't getting that elsewhere.
So, we came out here to do what?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
to try to be a slave.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm saying multiple disagreements with the NFL led
to the sudden change in plans.
The NFL challenging that claim,saying we are disappointed that
Colin did not appear for hisworkout for a slave meeting
informed us of that decisiontoday, along with the public.
Frankly, I think it angered theNFL.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But Colin Kaepernick, adam Schefter, with a body, an
entity that hadn't cooperatedwith him for the past three
years, when he has not beenallowed back into the NFL anyhow
.
That's enough time.
On Colin Kaepernick, I justwanted to point out Cory Brooks
article, which I agree with hisopinion piece with Fox News that
came out today.
(17:00):
So if you want to check thatout for yourself, it's a very
good article.
But it is true, all 32 teamsmust stencil a social justice
message in their end zones athome games.
Those were their choices Endracism, stop hate.
Hey, choose love, inspirechange.
I wonder how much crime wentdown in baltimore when they told
(17:24):
them they could no longer havethe team known as the baltimore
bullets in the nba or the aba,whatever it was.
I wonder if crime went down.
I'd love to see, see the stats.
Well, it's not called thebullets anymore.
Crime should go down.
It's ridiculous.
And speaking of NFL news, thereis news with the Cleveland
Browns.
All they could talk about inthe offseason was Aaron Rodgers
(17:46):
and Shador Sanders, who ended upgoing with the Cleveland Browns
, who have traded a quarterbackafter making the decision on
Shador.
So now this will restructureeverything with the Browns, who
have been losers forever andever, can never get a solid
quarterback.
But apparently they have faithin Shador Sanders, the Deion's
(18:09):
kid, as they've traded awayKenny Pickett, the quarterback,
to the Vegas Raiders for a fifthround pick for next year.
So for the Browns if anyoneeven cares about the Browns uh,
this means that it simplifiestheir quarterback rotation.
They'll keep four quarterbacksJoe Flacco will get the starting
(18:29):
job, dylan Gabriel and then sothey added Tyler Huntley to the
quarterback room during thepreseason.
Whatever it's preseason, wehave NFL starting in two weeks.
From the shelves of the rarerecords, I pulled this one off
the shelves today and thisreally is a rare one.
This is on Tomler Records.
(18:50):
It's the same exact size as a45.
However, it has four songs onthis and it's a 33 and a third
rpm.
So it's the same as an album, a12 inch record, but this is in
a 7 inch 45 format, two songs oneach side, and these songs are
(19:11):
from a very popular record fromthe mid 70s, 1976.
The album was releasedseptember 28th of 76, tomla, a
division of motown, recorded atthe crystal sound studio in
hollywood, some sessionsrecorded at the record plant in
(19:31):
sausalito hit factory in newyork, so at various places, and
the album has been regarded bymusic journalists as the
culmination of this artist'sclassic period of recording.
The previous year, at 74, thisartist was one of the most
successful figures in popularmusic and that these years of
(19:51):
his songs, right in that time,were so good before this album
came out.
And of course this was verypopular as well.
I don't know that any of thesongs really on this particular
record I'm about to play, Idon't think any of them are hits
.
I don't believe they are.
This is a double LP and afour-song bonus EP, which is
(20:17):
this that I'm holding in my hand.
The rare four song bonus EPdebuted at number one on the
Billboard 200 chart, became onlythe third album to achieve that
feat, the first by an Americanartist.
The lead single, which I lovethis song I will tell you in a
(20:39):
second.
You'll know exactly what I'mtalking about and then the
follow-up single went to numberone on the Billboard Hot 100.
Spent 13 consecutive weeks atnumber one.
So those two songs would be IWish and Sir Duke, which of
(20:59):
course means I'm talking aboutStevie Wonder.
So let me play the four songson this EP.
The first one, and there are noradio station stickers on this,
nothing of any kind, just arecord with the songs.
All right, this is, and I havenot listened to these.
(21:19):
I don't know what these soundlike.
Song called Saturn.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I can my bags on the way to a place where the air is
clean and sad.
There's no sense to sit andwatch people die.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Never heard this.
Wow, there's no sense to keepon doing such crime.
(22:27):
I can honestly say I don'treally care for that.
I'm sorry.
Wow, all right, here it is.
Here's something Ebony.
You know, when I think of EbonyEyes, I think of Bob Welch,
formerly of Fleetwood Mac, buthe had a song called Ebony Eyes.
It can't be the same song.
Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
She's a mischievous woman, a girl that others wish
that they could be.
If there's seven wonders of theworld, then I know she's got to
be number one, wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's different.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
She's the sunflower from nature's seed, a girl that
some men only find in theirdreams.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
When she smiles, it seems the stars are now I'm just
not sure what to make of it.
What?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
do you make of?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
that?
I don't, I'm not sure.
Okay of it.
What do you make of that?
I don't, I'm not sure.
Okay that let's flip it over.
This is, um, all day sucker.
Never heard these.
All right, all day sucker.
Stevie wonder.
Songs in the key of life.
Here we go.
Okay.
Now come on Last one, becauseyou can't slow.
(24:41):
Is it just me?
You seem very quirky.
Either I'm off or these songsare.
It could be me, I don't knowwho.
Am I to doubt Stevie Wonder?
It just sounds like songs thatjust didn't make the cut, you
know, like Coda by Led Zeppelin.
(25:03):
All right, here's the final one.
We'll go out with this one EasyGoing Evening, which is
precisely what I hope for youand for me, and I really thank
you so much for listening to thePats Peeps and paying attention
to our businesses.
So here it is Easy GoingEvening.
Let's check this one out.
(25:37):
They all just sound off to me.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm going crazy right now.
What, come on?
I can honestly see why this wasan EP.
(26:01):
I think they put these songsthat just didn't make the cut
and said, hey, we're going torelease an EP, we need a place
to put these songs.
I don't know why.
You know I love Stevie Wonder,but I'm 0 for 4 on this record.
That's 0 for me on this record.
(26:22):
That's zero for me.
I would never listen to thisNever.
Oh well, que sera sera.
But I sure appreciate youlistening too, like I said, to
the podcast, I'll keep enjoyinga relaxing week off.
We'll see you tomorrow forPat's Peeps 323.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It's just off.
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