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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, look who's back
.
It is the Pat's Peeps podcast.
That's right, it's the Pat'sPeeps podcast.
How the heck are you?
We're at number 324.
Pats Peeps, today's a Tuesday,it's now September, the 2nd 2025
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.
And as I peer out my studiowindow into the beautiful
foothills of Northern California, it's a trippy day because it
started off again.
It was one of those days I wokeup.
I look out the window.
I'm like oh, look at thisClouds.
It was overcast and gray.
I even heard a little bit ofrain.
However, now it has clearedaway, the sun is out and we're
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probably back into the 90s.
So, but at least it's not like102, 103 like last week.
But here I am, uh, back from avacation.
This is a matter of fact.
This is the longest that I canremember not doing a show in a
while.
I'll just say that it's been awhile.
It's been five days.
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Why am I applauding?
Because I'll be honest with you.
I just honestly, I needed abreak.
I needed a break.
Heck, I'm doing my show.
By the way, I'm the host of thePat Wall Show, heard on KFPK
Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM,1530 AM, the last radio man in
terms as Rip calls me, in termsof my radio show being the last
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nighttime radio show local inthe US.
So, yeah, I go back to worktonight Excited about that.
But, man, again I have had anice week off.
If you're wondering what I did,well, I didn't do anything Every
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day, I just wanted to donothing.
Whatever it was, I didn't wantto have any plans.
Here's the thing because I dothe radio show, because I do the
podcast, because I do a lot ofsocial events, sometimes you get
to the point where and nooffense you just kind of need a
break.
That big on switch needs to beflipped to off for a moment.
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And that's what I did.
And you know what?
I got to see friends duringthat, which was very nice.
I got to see a movie duringthis, which I'm going to tell
you about, but I really, really,really needed it.
I just needed this break, andso I'm glad I had it.
But here we go back to worktoday and you know, when I'm off
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, there's all these things thatI see and I really want to talk
about.
So I'll have a bunch to talkabout here this evening on the
radio show.
This is also.
Let's see, this is the firstweek of the NFL Regular season
begins Thursday night with thePhiladelphia Eagles, the Super
Bowl, defending Super Bowlchampions taking on the Dallas
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Cowboys.
So I am excited about that.
Again, I've said this before Ido love this time of year when
you have baseball headed downthe final stretch and then
football comes along Very good.
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That that's wait till you seewhat we have to offer very soon.
So I've got a record for todayas well.
Uh, yeah, the NFL starting.
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I'm not.
I'm not really happy with theserivalry.
You know rivalry uniforms thatthey're going to try to impose
on the NFL this year.
They're going to wear them forwhat I think, one or two games,
and it's got to be against adivision rival.
I'm just so tired of the teamsgoing black.
You know my Rams they're blueand yellow.
You know the Niners are red andgold, but now the Niners are
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going to have this.
The Niners, to be fair, havehad a black uniform before.
That's something I never wantedmy Rams to do, but they're
going to do this thing.
It's called Midnight, whatever.
Only eight teams are doing iteach year.
It's like this very dark blue.
Might as well just be black,but it's dark blue.
Very disappointing to see theseteams.
They're just so over the top.
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If you want to sell merch, thenyou need to do something that,
at least in my case, you don'tsell me black merchandise.
I'm not going to buy any of it.
I'm a traditionalist and I likethe old gear.
So here's another thing that I'mkind of thinking of, stuff that
I kind of want to make sure tomention this Saturday.
What a monumental day.
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Thank you, dmv.
Guess what I got my driver'slicense.
Unfreaking-believable.
So it was.
Let's see.
It was like, I don't know, sixdays, seven days short of being
four months since I went in toget that driver's license and I
finally got it on Saturday Trulyamazing.
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Again, I don't know what's goingon with the DMV photo.
I don't know what distracted meat the last moment, but my
head's all tilted up.
I'm looking at something youknow.
The least they could have doneis said hey, you know, maybe
we'll take another photo.
It looked like you weredistracted by something.
Maybe I was looking at theletters up there.
I don't know what, but that'sgoing to be the driver's license
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I'm stuck with, probably forthe next God knows how long.
But the point is I got mydriver's license Amazing Almost
four months to the day.
But even if I would have had it, combined with the fact I had
vacation, I'm all good to gowherever I feel like going.
You know where I would not havegone.
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Burning man no, anyonelistening?
Go to Burning man.
I'm going to have to talk aboutthis on my show tonight.
Burning man, first of all,that's not my thing.
Burning man, I mean, I get it.
I get sort of understand.
I think parts of it.
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You know, it's kind of like MadMax mixed with I don't know
what you know, freaky sex and FElon signs.
And you know, weird.
You know, like Dr Seuss,contraptions roaming the desert,
weird.
You know, like Dr Seuss,contraptions roaming the desert.
And then you got your toilets,you got your outhouses.
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You don't get anything.
I don't think they.
I've never been to one, but Idon't think they offer too much
there in terms of Burning manitself offering any of the
attendees pretty much anything.
But I guess they do haveouthouses, because what's the
other option?
Think about that.
I don't know how many people,what 70,000?
Are you kidding me?
By the way?
And this time at Burning man,they were having these huge dust
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storms, which is one of themain reasons I never want to go
to Burning man.
There's so many reasons I don'twant to go, but these dust
storms on the list they'resomewhere near the top, right
below.
It just ain't my thing.
I'm just not that.
I don't know.
If you're going to Burning man,good for you, I just ain't
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vibing with that.
Okay, I'm just going to leaveit like that.
I'm not into the Mad Max,whatever stuff.
The movies are all right.
I'm just going to leave it likethat.
I'm not into the Mad Max,whatever stuff.
The movies are right.
I don't want to live it in thedesert, and especially this time
around.
Did anyone see the dust stormsmixed with the rain, creating
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this thick mud?
So now you got these peoplewalking around in these freak
costumes and whatever they'rewearing on their feet, whether
it's just their feet or whateverthey're wearing.
Now that's all caked with thisthick clay that doesn't even
soak into the ground.
It just creates this thick,oozing, disgusting mud.
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And people were stuck on thehighway trying to get in for
like five and a half six hours,can you imagine?
And they're stuck and you can'tgo anywhere because, well, I
guess that would mean you werestuck.
That's kind of redundant, Iguess.
But then what I meant to say isyou can't go and get away from
the dust.
You're inside your vehicle, butthe dust is just ruining
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everything.
Then you're wearing your maskand you're breathing in Same
thing in 2023.
Apparently, it was this big uglyrainstorm.
It just ruined everything.
Now can you imagine I cannot,I'm sorry.
Imagine.
There's no way I find it anyfun to be sitting waiting to get
into that mess for five and ahalf six hours.
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Remember last year when thefreaks blocked the place.
Remember that they wereblocking it with their
barricades and the sheriffshowed up.
Remember everyone that was inline last year?
That was a whole story, untilthe sheriffs, or whatever, came
in and moved them out physically.
Yeah, I mean wind, dust, rain.
They have created thesedangerous conditions, these
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traffic delays.
They actually halted airportoperations, damaged these weird
encampments.
The 2023 Burning man was calledthe Mud Burn.
That one resulted in severeflooding and both of these
stranded attendees into thisdense, thick mud.
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No thanks.
And then, I'm sorry, what is upwith the?
What's up with the orgy dome?
What are we doing here?
What are we doing with the orgydome?
You know what this reminds meof.
I'm telling you.
It reminds me if you go backand watch the the ten
commandments, the movie the tencommandments, and they're down
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there worshiping the cows or thegolden cow or whatever.
They were worshiping false gods.
It's like.
It is like futuristicworshiping false gods, sexual
perversion, run amok On drugs.
Thank you, thank you.
I guess I won't be anambassador for that anytime soon
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.
You know, I just have no, justzero desire to be a part of any
of this.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh boy, we're getting
some more rain.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Unbelievable.
This year's edition of theBurning man Festival is
officially doomed.
First, on opening weekend, amassive sandstorm destroyed
hundreds of tents, tore apartshade structures.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You will see the
havoc, the destruction and
severely damaged the havocbarely settled when the next
disaster struck upon thefestival.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Not one, but multiple
heavy rainstorms, turning the
Playa into a miserable pool ofmud.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Uh-oh, this is not
good.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
No thank you.
On Sunday evening, roughly 24hours after the dust storm,
heavy rain swept over Black RockCity, transforming the flat
desert floor into somethingentirely different, Unlike most
places this Nevada desert has nonatural drainage systems.
It's a completely flat surfacecovered with alkaline dust.
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Disaster weather posting thisOut there.
Water doesn't drain, nor doesit soak in.
It mixes with the fine dust andforms a thick, clay-like mud.
Within hours, the plier turnedinto a seven-mile-wide bowl of
sludge that clung to everythingShoes, tires, bikes, tents.
One witness described the chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So just walking.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I was in the orgy
dome when suddenly I Ten feet or
so over from the tent to thecar all these footprints.
Just look at my boots, Likeit's kind of heavy to pick my
foot up.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
There's that much
extra weight on there, that's
your bad Camps that had justrebuilt after the sandstorm now
faced a new battle keeping theirshelters dry as water seeped in
through every gap.
That's like living hell to meNext night, as more rain fell in
sheets and puddles spreadacross the city.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Imagine getting that
stuff in your underwear.
You're in your sleeping bag.
Unfortunately, you got the camplike.
You got the camping set rightup next to the orgy dome and
you're hearing that all night Ah, ah.
Meanwhile you're stuck withsand in your crotch.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
As more rain fell
from the sky.
Elevate your gear, keepgenerators out of puddles.
Tape off your cords.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The rain left misery
in its wake I remember I was at
work one time I was a sports guyand, um, I got a.
I got an email from this guy itwas.
It was from uh, it was aboutburning man.
Somehow he got my email, sendsme an email.
I'm work.
Imagine this I'm at my desk atwork, it's all quiet around the
newsroom and I see the email andI'm like okay, and I click on
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it and it says something like oh, I'm a DJ too.
I swear, this is the truth, I'ma DJ too.
I said okay, cool, and he goeshere's a couple of pictures of
my DJ booth at Burning man.
Here's a couple of pictures ofmy DJ booth at Burning man.
I click on the attachment, itopens up it's full screen
attachment and I'm telling you,it literally looked like Colonel
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Sanders holding a freakingpoodle in a scissor lock In a
camper.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yes, dude was nude,
straight up nude, looking like
Colonel Sanders.
It sticks like cement toeverything.
The Playa got filled withleft-behind bikes as attendants
restored to their final means oftransportation.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
One of the things I
did during the vacation was I
went to a movie.
I went to this movie based on.
I went with Robin theInterrupter, and I don't go to
movies very often Rarely, I'llbet.
I see in one year maybe onemovie, maybe.
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So Ken Dawg, my movie reviewer,comes in the Friday before I
went on vacation and he's reallytouting this movie.
He's talking about it and I'mlike, oh, it's a suspenseful,
scary movie.
The atmosphere is very scaryand I like a good horror movie,
but they don't make them verywell in my opinion.
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And all the other movies, thesuperhero movies, forget it.
I'm not going to go.
The Batmans, the Ironmans, thewhatever man, I'm not going, I'm
not interested.
So there are very few moviesthat I'm willing to go sit
through.
I'm always disappointed.
Very rarely, am I not?
You know, I go down the list.
Asteroid City was the onebefore that.
It was just so stupid.
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So, anyhow, I was determined tosit this one through and Ken
Dye's out.
I was sitting on the edge of myseat for this one.
I couldn't believe it.
This is really suspenseful.
Josh Brolin is in it.
Yeah, josh Brolin's a goodactor.
No country for old men.
He's been in some good movies,I'm telling you man.
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Like Robin said, pat, there wasat least four or five times in
that movie where you were goingto walk out.
What a steaming pile.
And I'm not going to come onand bash Ken Dog, but I am going
to bring it up Ken Dog,dogsmoviehousecom, ken Jackman,
a great guy, great moviereviewer.
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But we're going to go ahead anddisagree on this one, as we do
on many movies.
But we're going to go ahead anddisagree on this one, as we do
on many movies.
And this was, like I said,steaming pile, is the best
compliment I can give it.
I'll say this Now the bestcompliment is that Josh Brolin
is actually a very good actor.
You know, I think he's a goodactor, but I don't know if he
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had bills to pay, I don't know.
Maybe you'll think it's a muchbetter movie than I did.
Oh my God.
And, by the way, going back tothe Burning man thing, I did
want to mention one more thing.
You know how much a ticket is?
This is what I heard.
I could be wrong $550 for aticket for Burning man, and they
said there was 70,000 people inthat muck.
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70,000?
At $5.50 a ticket Into themiddle of nowhere, where they
offer you no amenitieswhatsoever except porta-potties.
Think about the dough they'remaking off of that.
Someone was a genius.
Let's just open this land thatwe can do zero with.
There's nothing you're going todo in that Black Rock Desert.
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What are you going to do outthere?
Nothing is the answer.
So you come up with this planto have a festival of
nothingness like nothing.
Imagine what people would liveout there and then have people
live like that and then burn abig wooden structure in the
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figure of a big stick man to endthe thing.
So it seems like there'svirtually no cost.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe someonewill call me on that, I don't
know, but there's no amenitiesand 550 a ticket and 70,000
people.
The cost to get into the moviewas much cheaper.
It was a matinee price.
But you know what the bottomline is you ain't getting your
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money back for either one.
Both of them were a waste oftime.
I'm certain that there's beenBurning Mans where they've been
very successful.
They wouldn't keep doing it.
People have had a great time.
I look forward to it.
I get that, but hey, not myvibe either within the Burning
man or the terrible movie that Ijust saw this week.
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I'm going to expand on that.
On my show tonight I'm going toask people their Burning man
experiences and there should besome good stories about that, so
I can't wait to hear them.
Let's take a listen to this.
This was sent to us.
Listener content for a Tuesday.
This was sent to us by DarleneWithaway our friend Darlene
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Withaway, the president of thePat Walsh fan club, on social
media and everywhere else.
This is Holly Huff.
You know, just recently I talkedabout the fact that I went to
see Dead Company at Golden GatePark 60th anniversary of the
dead.
I enjoyed it.
Golden Gate Park 60thanniversary of the dead I
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enjoyed it.
Am I a deadhead?
I can't say that I'm a deadhead.
Do I love the Grateful Dead?
I can say that I do.
As I mentioned before, I was atJerry Garcia's memorial when he
passed in 95 at Golden GatePark.
Here I was at the 60thanniversary of the dead.
At Golden Gate Park I was atthe 30th anniversary of the
Grateful Dead.
I've been to numerous deadshows, including Cal Expo, which
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Holly is going to mention here.
So what she says about deadheadsis absolutely true.
I actually don't mind it.
I kind of am intrigued andfascinated by it because I'm
such a music guy, I get whatthey do.
Matter of fact, I do this topeople about music all the time.
I'm like, yeah, you know, thissong was done by such and such,
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it was released this year.
And then I give a little tidbit, like I do on my radio show,
like I do on my podcast.
But here is Holly Huff.
I thought this was pretty goodand 100% true, and she's talking
about deadheads.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
My friend is a
deadhead.
Any grateful deadheads in here?
Oh, you guys are deadheads.
What an insufferable group ofpeople deadheads are.
Settle down.
I'm on a time limit, but myfriend, he's obsessed with them.
He's always trying to get me tolisten to music.
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So finally, one day I caved.
I was like all right, you getone album, send me the name,
I'll listen to it beginning toend.
And he's like well, I'm goingto see Dead Company this weekend
.
You have to listen to them atthe TD Garden Arena, boston from
November 2017.
I was there.
It was amazing.
And so I look it up and I startlistening to it.
I'm actually really enjoying it.
I really start getting into themusic.
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So I start texting him what I'menjoying about the album and he
goes hold on Are you listeningto Dead Company At the TD Garden
Arena, boston From November17th 2017, or Dead Company At
the TD Garden Arena, boston FromNovember 19th 2017?
And I said is there adifference, which was the wrong
question?
Or Dead Company at the TDGarden Arena, boston from
November 19th 2017.
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And I said is there adifference?
Which was the wrong question toask?
Because oh yes, there is adifference.
And what was that difference?
On November 17th 2017, at theTD Garden Arena, boston, they
opened with the song Jack Straw,which was significant because
the last time they opened withthe song Jack Straw was July 8th
1995, at the Soldiers FieldStadium, chicago which was the
second-to-last performance byJerry Garcia before his death on
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August 9th 1995.
But on November 19th 2017,.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The TV bar moved to.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Boston.
They opened with the songSamson and Delilah, which was
also significant because thelast time they opened with that
song was May 26th 1993, at theCal Expo Amphitheater Sacramento
.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I was there.
I was there.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
The version of Samson
and Delilah recorded for the
album Road Trips Vol 2, no 4,which was much more critically
acclaimed than Road Trips Vol 2,no 1, 2, and 3.
And then he goes.
So do you understand now and Isaid yes, now I understand why
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people get so annoyed when Italk about Batman ah, thank you,
darlene, with a Y, and shereally has that down.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
She's absolutely
right.
Okay, I have a 45.
I plucked from my rare 45collection shelf and this is
super cool because there's twoof them.
I'm going to pull them out ofthe sleeve.
Oh my God, these records are insuch beautiful, I mean perfect,
perfect, virgin condition.
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These two records, oh my gosh,two of them in such beautiful
condition, with no stickers,with no stamps, anything.
It's on a yellowish sort oforangish-yellowish RCA.
You probably know the recordlabel these records are.
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One side is the long song, let'ssee hold on.
One side is the long version,stereo.
The other side is the shortversion stereo.
The other record, long versionstereo and the short version in
stereo.
I thought there might be a monoon that as well.
But two of these records and Ipromise you, never, ever have
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been pulled out of that sleeve,this record sleeve, until I just
did that, and we're talking1969.
I mean, I love stopping againand thinking about this.
I just pulled these two recordsout of here.
It's the first time I've everpulled them out of the sleeve
and they've been in this sleeve,sitting on a shelf waiting to
be pulled out of this sleevesince June 20th 1969.
(24:15):
No, excuse me, july 11th 1969.
Wow, that was right before themoon landing, correct?
Or right at the same time?
Anyhow, song by an Englishsinger-songwriter, very, very
popular, released July 11th of69 by Phillips and Mercury
Records as a seven-inch single.
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It was then the opening trackof the second studio album by
this artist, produced by GusDugin, recorded at Trident
Studios in London, also the sameyear as Woodstock.
These records have been in hissleeve since Woodstock.
Think about that.
Yep, it's a tale about afictional astronaut inspired by
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the 2001, a Space Odyssey in1968.
And this artist's feelingsabout alienation at that point
in his career, and the sound ofthis departed from the music
hall of his debut album topsychedelic folk.
I guess you might call itInspired by, nonetheless but
guess who?
The Bee Gees.
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This song was one of the mostmusically complex compositions
that this artist had written upto this point, and they rush
released a single to capitalizeon the Apollo 11 moon landing,
and it received critical praise.
It was used by the BBC asbackground music during its
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coverage of the moon landing.
This record initially soldpoorly, but then it went to
number five in the uk and becamethis artist's first and only
chart hit for another threeyears.
Then you add these, so I guessthis is a reissue.
I'm looking at reissues by rcarecords became bowie's first us
hit in 72, his first number onein 75.
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Rerecorded an acoustic versionin 79.
This just goes on and on.
It's about that fictionalastronaut by the name of Major
Tom and I'm sure that you knowby now if you're sitting there
guessing and going oh, I knowwhat he's talking about.
You know this is David Bowieabout.
You know this is David Bowie,david Bowie.
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We're going to play the longversion.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Again.
Released July 11th 1969.
Here on Pat's Peeps 324.
Ground Control to Major Tom.
Ground Control to Major Tom.
To Major Tom, take your proteinpills and put your helmet on.
Ground control to Major Tom.
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Commencing countdown engines onCheck ignition.
Commencing countdown engines onCheck ignition.
And may God's love be with you.
(27:47):
This is ground control to MajorTom.
You've really made the grade,and the papers want to know
whose shirt you wear.
Now it's time to leave thecapsule, if you dare.
(28:08):
This is Major Tom to groundcontrol.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Thank you for
listening To Pat's Peeps 324.
I look forward to getting backon the radio tonight Talking to
you again.
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Happy Tuesday.
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