London greets us with music in the air and a skyline that feels like a promise. We land at a rock-and-roll hideout in Soho—formerly MI5 research space, now a boutique sanctuary curated by Mark and Shireen Fuller—where portraits of Hendrix and Tyler watch over the lifts and the rooftop spins a perfect soundtrack. It’s our launchpad for a fast, joyfully chaotic plan: a bullet train to Liverpool for Strawberry Field and Penny Lane, the Beatles’ childhood homes, and a hopeful stop at the Cavern Club, followed by a dusk walk through Jack the Ripper’s old haunts and daylight hours set aside for the Tower of London, the crown jewels, and Westminster Abbey.
The road here ran through Sicily and southern Italy, where we tried everything from fried peppers to arancine and learned how endless wine pairs with endless hospitality. Still, we crave simple comforts after two weeks abroad—smash burgers, fish and chips, maybe even a milkshake—and that honesty becomes part of the travel story. A coach window gifted us a cinematic moment: Mount Vesuvius in silhouette against a deep orange sunset, a full moon holding steady on the other side. Those scenes hit different when you share them with a bus full of friends who have become a travel tribe.
Every journey needs a legend, and ours arrived on two wheels. A gelato shop owner, a Cuban connection, and a scooter run delivered a box of Cohibas at a price we’ll be telling our grandkids about. We light up on the Soho rooftop and toast to serendipity, friendships, and the kind of finds you can’t plan. Along the way we celebrate a Dodgers repeat from an ocean away, wrestle with time zones, and keep our energy for the next day’s adventures. A local named Sarah nudges us toward Bonfire Night on the Thames, reminding us that the best travel tips usually come with a smile and a story.
Ride with us through music history, city lore, and the delicious whiplash of new places meeting old tastes. If you’re into London travel tips, Beatles landmarks, hidden hotel histories, and the art of scoring a rare cigar, you’re in the right place. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves the UK, and leave a quick review—what should we see next while we’re here?
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SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
So this is podcast 358.
I'm just gonna start.
I'm just gonna start up.
That's right.
My first time ever in England,my first time in London.
Ryan Harris and I are travelingover here together.
(00:23):
We just got in maybe, oh, Idon't know, a couple of hours
ago.
Checked into this incrediblehotel.
Uh this is the fourth day.
Fourth day of November?
Or fifth?
It's the fifth.
Fifth of November uh 2025.
It's we're on the rooftop ofthis hotel.
SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
What is this hotel, Ryan?
Okay, so the sign on the outsidesays the Sanctum Soho Hotel, but
the full official name is theKarma Sanctum Soho.
Uh and it's I'll tell you thequick story here.
It's operated by Mark andShireen Fuller.
Mrs.
Fuller uh comes with the resortand hotel experience, and Mark
(01:06):
Fuller is a concert producer andpromoter, did like the concert
for Diana, did one for Mandela.
So basically, he's the guy thatwrangles all the rock stars
backstage.
And the idea behind it was hewanted a place where rock stars
could stay and just chill.
And if they wanted to havedrinks, we're in this beautiful
(01:27):
rooftop bar, which uh hope Patwill put up a video at some
point on his Facebook page.
Uh so they could relax and havedrinks and then just go to their
room and turn in for the night.
And instead of having to be outall night partying and then
making their way back to thehotel.
And uh, he has done a smashingjob of it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and and by the way, we gota soundtrack for this whole
podcast, I believe.
Everywhere we go, there's music.
We just went to PiccadillyCircus here in London, went to
the Hard Rock Cafe, and we had asmash burger.
A uh I had the spicy, like smashburger and a beer, and Ryan had
(02:07):
a smash burger.
SPEAKER_02 (02:09):
The drippy, the drippy smash burger.
SPEAKER_01 (02:10):
I mean, they were drippy, they were so good, and
like, okay, well, you're gonnago to London, you're gonna have
a burger at the Hard Rocky Damnright.
We have been in Italy, which iswas fantastic for four days.
We've been in Sicily for many,many days, and we ate a lot of
things that you know were brandnew to me, and I'm not an
adventurous eater, but they werelaying it out there for
(02:32):
everything from algae cheese tothis meatless lasagna to stuff
that was, I mean, just um uhfried peppers, deep fried
peppers, so all of these thingsthat uh I had never really tried
before, and I gotta tell you,there was as people told me that
you know, in Sicily, there's somany flavors and different
foods, and so we we to we hadall that.
(02:54):
And look, this is my fourth timeto Italy, and and you know,
which is a blessing, but Ihonestly they got great food,
pizza, pasta, lasagna, all that.
But after a while, Ryan, yougotta get a break.
Well, let me remember that.
You gotta get a break, you'vegotta get you're like you begin
to you really crave someAmerican food.
I don't care if it's a hot dogwith onions and jalapenos or a
(03:16):
hamburger, whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (03:17):
Yeah, a milkshake of Coke.
And I will tell you, Pat,remember, I was there a couple
days early, so your first daywas my third day.
I was in Sicily and Italy totala full two weeks and loving the
Italian food.
In fact, one of the Siciliantreats that I wanted to get is
what's known as arancine, whichis a that's the plural, and you
(03:40):
have uh una arancina if youorder one solo.
It's a ball of rice breaded anddeep fried with a filling, and
they put all kinds of differentfillings in.
So depending on where you getit, you'll have your choice of
you know, whatever cheese orspinach or some kind of meat or
something, you'll you'll be ableto find something there.
(04:00):
And as much as I love the food,oh my god, the food in Italy is
so I the wine never stops, neverstops.
Endless wine.
But after two weeks of it, youknow, uh, I'm I'm glad to be in
London.
I plan on having what they wouldcall a proper fish supper, which
is fish and chips and mushypeas.
(04:21):
Love my mushy peas.
SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
I'll be skipping the mushy peas.
You might like them.
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
I bet you I bet when you taste them, you'll like
them.
Because you like split pea soup,don't you?
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
I do, but that seems like it's in the middle of split
pea soup and the mushy soup.
SPEAKER_02 (04:31):
It's really just thicker split pea soup.
SPEAKER_01 (04:33):
Yeah, no, it's mushy peas.
SPEAKER_02 (04:35):
Well, whatever.
I put a lot of work into mysplit.
Into your split pea soup.
See, I like a thick split peasoup if you're not like water.
SPEAKER_01 (04:41):
But anyhow.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Uh, but no, we're gonna we're gonna be eating some
good food, and then as soon as Iget home to California, uh, I'm
gonna give a free plug to myfavorite drive-thru Mexican
joint, Baldos in Vacaville,where I'm gonna get a giant
plate of carnitas nachos anddump so much hot sauce on it,
uh, I might be able to set mymouth on fire.
unknown (05:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:03):
But I'm loving it.
Right now we were we are smokingCuban Cohiba cigars, and I must
tell you, if you are a cigarenthusiast, if you are an
occasional cigar smoker wholikes to smoke socially, which
is what I do, I'm not aneveryday smoker.
Uh, and I I so then then we'regonna tell you the story of how
(05:26):
we got these, but these Cubans,which would be illegal in our
country, oh, very illegal.
You know, and I've had Cubansbefore, you know, just because
it's a Cuban cigar, let me justtell you, it doesn't mean it's a
great cigar.
Quite frankly, there's someDominicans and some others that
are just just very, very goodthat we have these these days.
(05:47):
But but if you get a good Cuban,and these are very good, then
there's really nothing likethem.
So if you can imagine, I Ipromise you, this is in my
wheelhouse, is to be sittingthere last night, well, dressing
up in my suit, which I waitedthis whole time for.
(06:08):
I waited the whole time, druggedthat thing, my brand new
pinstripe, wanted to wear it forSicily or Italy, and wanted to
go top flight, my my shoes I gotin Stressa, and to sit there and
listen to some Frank Sinatra,and I'm not talking about like
Frank Yois here, I'm talkingabout like the 19, the old
stuff, you know, 30s, 19, thevery vintage Sinatra.
(06:28):
To sit there and listen to that,dressed to the nine, smoking
Cuba cabal uh these Cubancigars, uh, and going to an
incredible restaurant, it wasjust first class, top shelf
stuff, and it is really anexperience like no other.
So it's it's just truly been ablessing.
(06:50):
And even on that note, before weeven got to that, we had a long
bus ride yesterday.
You know, and as so we had athree-hour bus ride from
Calabria, right?
Calabria?
Five hours.
Five hours from Calabria, butthen we broke it up into two and
three-hour chunks.
But anyhow, you see somebeautiful countryside, and now
if you can imagine, and I didpost this on Facebook, to be
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riding on this coach with thePat's Peeps group to look out
the window, and you are seeingan orange sunset.
I'm talking dark orange, and inthe middle of that sunset, and
I'm on the front of this coach,it's like watching a movie
because the the coach window isso huge, so I sit in front so I
(07:32):
could do social media.
I couldn't catch it in time, sothat if you see the video, I had
to get it on the side.
I wasn't quite ready for thiswhen it happened.
But when you talk about sunset,that's Mount Vesuvius.
You're looking in the center ofa window at the silhouette of
Mount Vesuvius, which, if youknow history and what Mount
Vesuvius means at Pompeii andthe destruction that it called
(07:54):
us to be looking at that, andthen on the right side of the
coach is a full moon, and ashe's talking Italian and
explaining some of this stuff,and we're listening to some nice
music, um, it was just reallyhard to describe how special
that was.
Because again, how many times inyour life?
(08:15):
I don't know for me, I've seenit a couple of times now.
Will I ever get to see thatagain?
I don't know, maybe, but to seethat was glorious, and I gotta
say, it was I'm so incrediblyglad that we got to see that.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Me too.
I I didn't realize we were gonnabe seeing Vesuvius again on this
trip after uh you know going toSorrento and and uh seeing it
from our hotel there andvisiting Pompeii on a previous
trip.
It never occurred to me thatwhen we drove by Naples we were
gonna be driving by MountVesuvius as well.
Uh that was just super cool, andthat sunset, you're right.
(08:50):
I got a couple of great picturesof that too.
I was just stunning.
Just stunning.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
To look out there, and it was just this, and for
some reason it lasts a longtime.
I don't know what the longitude,latitude, latitude, or I don't
know what it is, but it keeps itright there, man.
The sun seems to set for a longtime over here.
But so we um were again my firsttime in England and in London,
(09:18):
and just walking down, Ryansurprised me.
He said I didn't know where Iwas.
He's like, Alright, Pat, I'mjust gonna take a uh I'm just
gonna record you, shoot a littlevideo while you're walking up
here.
So I'm gonna get ahead of you,and I walk out there, and I
emerge into this beautiful area,and Ryan tells me that this is
essentially like London'sversion of Times Square.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Yeah, Piccadilly Circus is.
I mean, that's where I mean inNew York it's very similar.
Times Square is very similar.
You got a lot of live theatersaround there, like you do around
Piccadilly Circus.
You have the big signs with thevideo boards and the
advertisement, and you know,Times Square has always been
full of those big uh, you know,names and lights and and big
(09:59):
advertising and all that.
It's a little bit smaller thanTimes Square, but it's still
just as spectacular, and it is Ilike a three or four minute walk
from our hotel.
Yeah, literally right off thenight.
And then right nearby here isRegent Street, which is full of.
I mean, I always describe Soho,this area of London, as I mean,
(10:24):
most people know Rodeo Drive inBeverly Hills, and then I always
say, imagine if Rodeo Driveexploded and scattered nuclear
Rodeo Drive fallout over a muchlarger area that's Soho, and
right up the block here, inaddition to Regent Street, you
got Saville Row, which is thecenter of fashion in London.
(10:46):
It doesn't get any nicer.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:49):
And then in Soho in London.
You're real, I mean, from whatI've seen of it, it just has a
very special feel to it.
You know, we come to the hotel,the doors open at the front of
the hotel, and all I see, thefirst thing I see to the left is
a big art piece, I don't know ifit's glass or what, several
profiles of Jimi Hendrix.
As I look straight ahead behindthe desk, they had probably, oh,
(11:12):
I don't know, a huge, beautifulportrait of Jimi Hendrix.
Now, I then I realized when Iturned to my right and they had
a huge portrait of Steven Tyler,I'm like, we are in rock and
roll hotel here, man.
And I want you to give a littlehistory on the hotel for a
second, because what you weretelling me earlier, but the cool
thing is I was noticing, becauseagain, we've only been here,
(11:35):
I've only been here a couple ofhours, but as you come off the
elevators, and if you turn downthe stairs, it's so cool.
You open the elevator dooropens, and there's a portrait of
a rocker there.
Just the most incredible thing.
So what I thought we would do isat some point, you know, travel
the elevators and record what wesee coming out, you know, what
open what the doors open to, sopeople can get an idea of that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
Okay, we can do that.
Yeah, we can do that too.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
And then the speaking of music, what we're
gonna do tomorrow is Ryan and Iare we're gonna get up, we're
gonna take a bullet train,two-hour bullet train to
Liverpool.
And we are going to go seeStrawberry Fields, and we're
gonna go see Penny Lane, right?
We're gonna see Penny Lane,we're gonna see the Beatles'
(12:20):
childhood homes.
Hopefully, we're gonna go to theCavern Club.
I'd like to get a t-shirt orsomething.
Even though I have enought-shirts or a sweatshirt,
something in the Cavern Club,you know, where the Beatles
first played.
And um, it's the magical mysterytour.
And then at some point, Ryan canexpand on this a little bit.
And how cool is this in London?
We're gonna take the dusk tour,the Jack the Ripper tour.
(12:42):
You know, we may not have beenable to celebrate Halloween in
the traditional way this year,Ryan, by you know, handing out
candy, or you know, when we werekids, we'd go out and get the
candy.
But to be on a black volcano ofMount Etna, one of the most
active there is, and walking upto and in that black lava up
around that area, between thatand taking a Jack the Ripper
(13:03):
tour, it's like we expandedHalloween a little bit here.
And it's just a whole newincredible experience.
SPEAKER_02 (13:10):
Yeah, and uh, you know, that's one of a few things
we're gonna do because uh I hadbeen to London for the first
time 22 years ago, and I did gointo the Tower of London, which
is uh you know where Henry VIIIuh would lock people up and have
them beheaded and all of thatstuff, I believe.
We'll get more history when wego, but it also houses the crown
(13:34):
jewels of England, so you know,not uh including the Imperial
State Crown, which is when yousee the films of Queen
Elizabeth's coronation, or ifyou watched uh King Charles
crowned, the Imperial StateCrown is what they place on his
head, and then he'll wear itagain for the opening of
parliament if he goes in theregalia.
(13:54):
Queen Elizabeth uh used to dothat, so that's one thing.
I have been here four times andI've never been into Westminster
Abbey, and so that's where theydo the coronations, and so among
other things, and that's I wantto go in there.
There's a lot of very famouspeople, Winston Churchill and
Joffrey Chaucer, and there's awhole slew of people that are
buried in Westminster Abbey.
(14:16):
Uh, and then uh we've got itpretty well open until the
evening that day when we uh goand do the Jack the Ripper
walking tour at dark.
In the dark in old London.
SPEAKER_01 (14:30):
That's just that is really gonna be cool.
Walking across Abbey Road.
I look forward to that.
We're gonna do a podcast, by theway, the whole uh, you know, as
much as we can on the magicalmystery tour, and we're gonna
definitely be podcasting on thecorner of the crosswalk as we're
preparing.
I'm curious to see how thatgoes.
(14:51):
Do people stop and wait for you?
Do they allow you to just kindof go by yourself, take
pictures?
Are people patient?
I mean, how's that work?
It's pretty wild.
So we're gonna just kind ofreport from there.
You know, we always see thepictures.
People, if they do manage,anyway, blessed enough to be
over there and do that, takethat that iconic photo, then um
walk across that iconiccrosswalk.
I don't really hear peoplestanding over there talking
(15:13):
about getting ready to do it andthey're experienced doing it.
So that's what we're gonna be.
That's what we're gonna bedoing, which I'm really looking
forward to.
That tell us a little bit aboutthe the history of this hotel
we're at, Ryan.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
Well, you know, it's really not that old, but the
building, uh to me, the coolestthing about the building is uh
it previously housed uh aresearch center for MI5, which
is the British equivalent of theFBI.
MI6 is like the CIA, I believeJames Bond, 007, uh, you know,
(15:45):
he would have fallen under MI6.
And so, you know, they've turnedit into this rock and roll
hotel.
And it's like I explained toyou, they they built it for rock
stars to be able to just have aplace to chill.
It hasn't really been aroundthat long, uh, just a few years.
I don't know exactly how longit's been, but like Mark and
(16:08):
Shereen Fuller, the operators,they've been written up in the
Evening Standard newspaper, anduh they just took on a uh new
partner from the music world,Paul Okenfold, who Mark says
might even be here on Friday.
So hopefully we'll get thechance to say hello to their new
partner.
Uh, but uh it's just such achill, like this rooftop bar is
(16:31):
pretty much when I'm here whereI'm hanging out, because we can
sit outside and smoke cigars.
Uh when the weather is better,there's a hot tub up uh, you
know, half a level up here.
Uh, and I have sat in the hottub up here too, and it was
super cold when I got out and Iregretted it even in April.
Uh, and then there's guy there'ssome indoor space uh with a
(16:54):
lovely selection of cigars intheir cabinet.
Very, very expensive cigars.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (17:02):
So these cigars.
So Ryan and I wanted somecigars, and there were a few
other people on the trip, Jeffand David.
There was a few of us who wantedsome cigars, and we kept looking
for these tobacqueras.
Well, guess what they don't havethat I didn't see?
Tobacco.
Now they might have had somecheap cigarettes.
I don't know what in the heckelse they had.
(17:23):
But but so um Marco, who is ourliaison, who does a fabulous
job.
Please check out Pat's Peeps,our group with conservative
tours.
By the way, just mentioned onthis coach ride across Ken
Chase, who runs the business,told us that coming up, he uh
(17:44):
they're gonna be planning a tripto Portugal and Spain.
So this will be our nextadventure that I will be
hosting, which is amazing.
So we have these liaisons likeLorenzo, Romina, uh, Marco, we
have incredible drivers, Nicola.
They're just you wouldn'tbelieve how good they are, how
fun they are on the bus, the waywe laugh, the way we get along,
(18:08):
so they really look out for us.
So we can't find a dagon cigar.
So Marco knows someone who ownsa cigar store, and they got the
good ones, the Davanovs and theCubans, and the uh just all
these great cigars.
Our Truffegas, and and well, theguy's business was either he had
sold out, he was sold out ofcigars.
(18:31):
So Marco gets a hold of a guy.
We go to this little restaurant.
Where were we in that town?
SPEAKER_02 (18:35):
We were uh I can't even remember the name of the
town.
Not Terra, not Terra.
No, no, but it was a no, it wasa tiny little town, and it was a
just a brief stop, and we're ata gelato place.
Yes, and the guy who runs thegelato place, Giuseppe,
Giuseppe, happens to be marriedto a Cuban girl, and they had
(18:57):
some cigars from Cuba, thesecohibas, and they put somebody
on a scooter and sent them overto the house to get the cigars.
On a scooter! Yeah, and theyoffered to sell them to us
individually or the whole box,and I took every bit of euros,
(19:18):
my cash, and I bought the entirebox of 21.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
For 200.
SPEAKER_02 (19:23):
For two for 200 euros.
And it's a box of yeah, 200, 210euros, which is a box of cigars
that costs uh anywhere from 16,1700 to 2,000 dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
So these are beautiful cigars, and that was
an unbelievable score.
SPEAKER_02 (19:40):
For about one-eighth the price.
Just unbelievable.
Well, but here's the thing,guys.
It's like, you know, we ItalianAmericans, uh, we we often kind
of kid around.
Hey, you want something?
I got a guy.
Well, we came to Italy and wegot a guy for Cuban cigars.
(20:00):
Yeah.
And you better believe uh I'llprobably be seeing Giuseppe
again in my future at somepoint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now the trick is gonna begetting what's left back home.
You know, we're gonna smoke,we're gonna smoke them all here.
Uh, Customs and Border Patrol.
We're gonna smoke them all here.
Any cigars you find with us arecigars we purchased in London.
SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
That's right.
Absolutely 100% correct.
SPEAKER_02 (20:24):
Dominicans or whatever they are.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
You know, I don't even know if I on a completely
other note, a completelydifferent note, I want to say
this.
Um, we have our Pat's peepsponsors, one of them being Rock
and Soul Diner in Sacramento.
Tentan R, I believe it is.
Now, I've been telling you thisevery time, and you guys will
benefit from this.
(20:48):
Rock and Soul Diner, R O C and SO L Soul.
Rock and Soul Diner is going togive you two-for-one dinners.
Not breakfast, not lunch.
My friends, we're emphasizingdinner for the entire month of
November.
If you go in for dinner, you saywhat?
Hey, I'm gonna go to a concert,let's say, or you had an event
downtown.
(21:09):
Please do yourself a favor.
You talk about a win-win.
So the Pats peeps, we start tolook good because hey, it's
working, you guys.
If you could do it, then itmakes me look good because my
business starts to work.
Without you, I can't.
So if you go in, you get a freemeal.
You get two for one on you orwhen you order a dinner,
underlining dinner at Rock andSoul Diner, okay?
(21:30):
And then they get the business,you get the free meal, and hey,
again, it makes me look like youknow, it makes it means that my
business is working, and that'sthe model of that.
So that's one thing on acompletely different note.
I am gonna brag for a minute.
I don't know if I did this on aprevious one or not, previous
podcast.
Chances are I did, and I don'tcare.
How about the freaking Dodgers?
(21:51):
Now, you may hate the Dodgers,but it is a remarkable thing
that the LA Dodgers won theWorld Series, they were down in
this World Series, okay?
And I can't here's the thing: when you're over here, the time (22:02):
undefined
difference makes it so difficultunless you are, and I'm a
diehard.
So for me to literally have togo to sleep when the World
Series game is starting, yeah,and it starts at 1 a.m.
in Italy and in Sicily, I wouldlay there with my radio next to
(22:23):
my head like a little kid withmy Dodgers jersey next to me for
good luck, and I would fallasleep.
And I couldn't listen.
But in the mornings, I would getthe scores.
So to all of you who were sokind, when I I'd wake up in the
morning, like I had to havenightmares all night, especially
after the seventh during theseventh game, that the oh god,
oh god, the the Blue Jays won.
It was a nightmare.
And I would think to myself, Ithink this might be, I might be
(22:45):
dreaming.
Maybe I'm not though.
I think I am, but I'm not sureif I am.
So I wake up in the morning, Ican't even sleep, barely sleep.
I wake up early.
First thing I do is I'll look atmy phone, and it's lit up like a
Christmas tree.
So many of you wanted to tellme, hey, Pat, you might want to
wake up and look at this,because your team is
(23:06):
back-to-back champions.
I am so proud of them.
You know, so proud that theywere able to do this.
The first time in 45 years thata team has gone back to back.
It's the well, it's the firsttime in 45 years, I should say,
that a team has won the last twogames on the road in a World
Series to win the World Series,but it's the first repeat
champions since the turn of thecentury.
Ryan, can you get that coat onor not?
(23:27):
Do you need some help?
SPEAKER_02 (23:28):
No, I'll be fine, Pat.
SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
I've been watching trying to put his arm into the
other coat sleeve for, I don'tknow.
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
All of thirty minutes.
All of thirty seconds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I twisted the coat when Igrabbed it with my own thoughts.
SPEAKER_01 (23:40):
Oh no, I see the problem.
It's a Raiders coat.
See, things don't function whenit has Raiders logos on it, is
what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
They function just fine.
SPEAKER_01 (23:49):
Oh, do they?
Unlike the team.
So much for commitment toexcellence.
SPEAKER_02 (23:54):
Unlike the team, the jacket functions just fine.
SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
Team, not so much.
Same thing with the Rams theother night.
I want, I never miss a Ramsgame.
I'm laying on the bed, I startto listen to Rams game.
They're already up big time, andI just like, well, then I fell
asleep.
I couldn't do it.
I woke up and I smoked NewOrleans.
But anyhow, that's my little funum sports while I was over here.
And I'm very proud of them.
I don't, you know what?
(24:18):
I don't care.
People can shake their head.
Oh da da da.
You know what?
Hey, not me.
I'm a fan, and I'm freakinghappy.
I watch every game, and so it'sjust been uh in that way, it's
been it's been really fun for metoo.
So yeah, but it's hard to missthose games, isn't it?
It's so hard, man.
But what are you gonna do?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
You just have to do it when you're traveling, man.
That's all you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
The only thing you can do is catch up the next day,
or just stay up online and notsleep ever.
SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
And that's not reasonable.
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
If there's one thing I love as much as the Dodgers
and the Rams, it's my sleep.
And because it's more important,that comes number one.
So, and I'm the host of thetrip.
I can't be, you know, sluggishduring this whole thing, which
I'm not.
By the way, that's another thingI want to say.
I absolutely have so much funinteracting with everyone on
(25:06):
this crew.
This Pat's Peeps group, some ofthem have gone on five trips
with me.
You know, there's some Georgeand Jennifer at five, they're at
five, so is Eve.
Of course.
So, and they've already said,yep, we're gonna go to Portugal
and Spain with you coming up.
SPEAKER_02 (25:21):
And Rick and Gerilyn, they're on at least
three, probably four.
SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
That's right.
Don Starr has been on at leastfour.
SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
I'm on three.
SPEAKER_01 (25:28):
Dale is on three, you're on three.
So, and then we grow first.
Yeah.
And then we grow and we we meetnew friends all the time.
Marty and Cecilia, Cecilia,Cecile, Cecile from uh from New
Jersey, just outside ofPhiladelphia.
Absolutely uh incredible couple.
Sarah, who is the sweetheartwho's out here hosting us right
(25:50):
now, who just walked out here.
We're doing a podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Sarah, come over here real quick.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Oh, she doesn't want to be on, but she's got a good
personality.
SPEAKER_02 (25:56):
What I what we didn't tell you is my friend Pat
Walsh here hosts a radio programin Sacramento, California, and
he also does his podcast.
And we, of course, have beenpodcasting from Sicily and Italy
and now London.
So, and Sarah here uh has onlybeen working for Mark and
Shireen Fuller here at theSanctum Soho for a month now.
SPEAKER_01 (26:18):
I don't think tech do you have an accent or are you
American?
Oh no, she has an accent.
I haven't heard you talk.
SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
I'm definitely a London off.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Oh, there I got to hear her voice.
I I'm sorry.
I didn't really hear your voiceas well when you were talking to
Ryan.
Oh, yes, you were born andraised here.
SPEAKER_00 (26:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:33):
How many generations now in London?
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
The best.
SPEAKER_02 (26:37):
First generation?
Where's your family from?
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
Jamaica and Cuba.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
Really?
So Commonwealth members.
Not surprising, right?
It's all one big happy family inthe Commonwealth, right?
Sarah's laughing at that becausewe don't want to be a little bit
more.
She knows I'm on the spot.
She knows I'm full of along.
SPEAKER_01 (26:54):
It's just always nice to have a pleasant woman's
voice saying hi on my podcast.
Rather than us, she's been verypleasant.
SPEAKER_02 (26:59):
Two mooks like us.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
It's a whole different story.
So Pat here has never been toLondon.
Never.
This is his first time.
He's been here all the way tomadness.
Is it the madness?
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
It's quiet madness.
You'll say things that youshouldn't be seeing in the
streets.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
Is that right?
SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
Yeah, you'll say that.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Oh, that's that's that's a tease, what we call in
the radio business a tease.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
We may I'll I'll ask her more about that off of the
podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
But what if there was one thing that a first timer
should see when they're here,what would you say to uh you
need to get out today, becauseit's bonfire night.
SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
So some traveling with a beautiful pilot today is
a guy's night today.
SPEAKER_01 (27:45):
A bonfire?
SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
It's bonfire night.
Where?
It's Guy Fox Knight.
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
It's Guy Fox Night!
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Oh my god, are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_02 (27:53):
Wow.
Is there a time that's supposedto start or not now?
When where?
SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
Yeah, uh so get to get to the river, you'll see
something like amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
Oh, down by the river Thames.
Yeah.
Okay.
We're a little ways from theThames here.
SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
Not too far, but it's uh 10 minutes on the on the
in a car or a 20-minute walk.
SPEAKER_02 (28:14):
Okay.
Wow, how about that?
SPEAKER_00 (28:15):
The entire skyline's gonna be lit up.
Actually, watch it outside ofthe house of the parliament.
Watch it just for the justice.
SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Outside of the houses of parliament.
Watch it outside of Parliament?
SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Okay.
That's true.
We have to forgot about that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:36):
You gotta go see that, man.
I I I would love to see that.
Oh my god.
We better we better hustle this.
Oh, we'll finish this.
It's gonna start soon.
You say more fun.
SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
Sarah, thank you.
Thanks for saying hi.
What a sweetheart, man.
What a sweetheart.
She is great.
Isn't it nice to have thewoman's voice on the five?
Much better than ours.
So, um, where are we at?
Well, I just look.
This is Pat's Peeps 358.
Um, it is it's been anincredible trip so far.
(29:10):
There's still more to see.
The next couple of podcasts.
So we've done the Godfathertour, and you we got to do that
on a podcast.
I want to say thank you toTeresa.
Teresa, if you're listening, sheheard her podcast, she heard
herself on our podcast.
I think it might have beenthree, I don't know, the
Godfather podcast.
And so she finally heard it thismorning, and she wrote me a
message.
(29:30):
She said, Pat, I just finallylistened to the podcast that you
guys gave me the opportunity tobe on, and I can't tell you how
much fun I was listening to it.
She says it felt like a natural,and she was, and so she is so
sweet.
And you know, we might get heron again here at some point on
the show or whatever you, butyou know, the people that have
come on the podcast, thank youso much to the whole group.
(29:53):
They've gone back home now,except for me and Ryan.
They're all they're on their wayback, right?
Making their way home.
SPEAKER_02 (29:59):
They're not, I don't think.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
No, they're making their way home.
The one good thing about thiscoming to England from Sicily
from Italy, well, we came fromItaly, actually, this on this,
is uh according to Ryan, we gotwe've got about almost three
hours on our flight off already.
So that's gonna make somewhat ofa difference, I think, on the
way home.
SPEAKER_02 (30:14):
Well, plus I got us the shortest possible duration.
So our layover in Denver is justunder 90 minutes.
So we're gonna have to get backthrough customs and hustle to
the gate and get you know, getall checked and everything.
So yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
But we can do it, we can do it, it can be done.
So, with that, you know, wedon't really have any special
music going out, so I thought wewould just go out with the music
that you're hearing, theambiance music that's played
through our entire podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
The Sanctum Soho Soundtrack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
Right, right.
Hey, thank you guys.
Tomorrow we'll talk BulletTrain, we'll do a podcast from
the Bullet Train, we'll do apodcast from Liverpool, and I
think it's gonna be fabulous.
So make sure to check out Pat'sPeeps 359.
Heck, we're coming up to 365podcasts, one full year of
podcast over a two-year span.
(31:05):
Now, that's a lot of podcasts.
Because I don't do holidays andI don't do weekends, so that's a
lot of podcasts.
Love you all.
Be blessed.
Thank you for listening.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Pat's Peeps Podcast.
So this is podcast 358.
I'm just gonna start.
I'm just gonna start up.
That's right.
My first time ever in England,my first time in London.
Ryan Harris and I are travelingover here together.
(00:23):
We just got in maybe, oh, Idon't know, a couple of hours
ago.
Checked into this incrediblehotel.
Uh this is the fourth day.
Fourth day of November?
Or fifth?
It's the fifth.
Fifth of November uh 2025.
It's we're on the rooftop ofthis hotel.
SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
What is this hotel, Ryan?
Okay, so the sign on the outsidesays the Sanctum Soho Hotel, but
the full official name is theKarma Sanctum Soho.
Uh and it's I'll tell you thequick story here.
It's operated by Mark andShireen Fuller.
Mrs.
Fuller uh comes with the resortand hotel experience, and Mark
(01:06):
Fuller is a concert producer andpromoter, did like the concert
for Diana, did one for Mandela.
So basically, he's the guy thatwrangles all the rock stars
backstage.
And the idea behind it was hewanted a place where rock stars
could stay and just chill.
And if they wanted to havedrinks, we're in this beautiful
(01:27):
rooftop bar, which uh hope Patwill put up a video at some
point on his Facebook page.
Uh so they could relax and havedrinks and then just go to their
room and turn in for the night.
And instead of having to be outall night partying and then
making their way back to thehotel.
And uh, he has done a smashingjob of it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and and by the way, we gota soundtrack for this whole
podcast, I believe.
Everywhere we go, there's music.
We just went to PiccadillyCircus here in London, went to
the Hard Rock Cafe, and we had asmash burger.
A uh I had the spicy, like smashburger and a beer, and Ryan had
(02:07):
a smash burger.
SPEAKER_02 (02:09):
The drippy, the drippy smash burger.
SPEAKER_01 (02:10):
I mean, they were drippy, they were so good, and
like, okay, well, you're gonnago to London, you're gonna have
a burger at the Hard Rocky Damnright.
We have been in Italy, which iswas fantastic for four days.
We've been in Sicily for many,many days, and we ate a lot of
things that you know were brandnew to me, and I'm not an
adventurous eater, but they werelaying it out there for
(02:32):
everything from algae cheese tothis meatless lasagna to stuff
that was, I mean, just um uhfried peppers, deep fried
peppers, so all of these thingsthat uh I had never really tried
before, and I gotta tell you,there was as people told me that
you know, in Sicily, there's somany flavors and different
foods, and so we we to we hadall that.
(02:54):
And look, this is my fourth timeto Italy, and and you know,
which is a blessing, but Ihonestly they got great food,
pizza, pasta, lasagna, all that.
But after a while, Ryan, yougotta get a break.
Well, let me remember that.
You gotta get a break, you'vegotta get you're like you begin
to you really crave someAmerican food.
I don't care if it's a hot dogwith onions and jalapenos or a
(03:16):
hamburger, whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (03:17):
Yeah, a milkshake of Coke.
And I will tell you, Pat,remember, I was there a couple
days early, so your first daywas my third day.
I was in Sicily and Italy totala full two weeks and loving the
Italian food.
In fact, one of the Siciliantreats that I wanted to get is
what's known as arancine, whichis a that's the plural, and you
(03:40):
have uh una arancina if youorder one solo.
It's a ball of rice breaded anddeep fried with a filling, and
they put all kinds of differentfillings in.
So depending on where you getit, you'll have your choice of
you know, whatever cheese orspinach or some kind of meat or
something, you'll you'll be ableto find something there.
(04:00):
And as much as I love the food,oh my god, the food in Italy is
so I the wine never stops, neverstops.
Endless wine.
But after two weeks of it, youknow, uh, I'm I'm glad to be in
London.
I plan on having what they wouldcall a proper fish supper, which
is fish and chips and mushypeas.
(04:21):
Love my mushy peas.
SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
I'll be skipping the mushy peas.
You might like them.
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
I bet you I bet when you taste them, you'll like
them.
Because you like split pea soup,don't you?
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
I do, but that seems like it's in the middle of split
pea soup and the mushy soup.
SPEAKER_02 (04:31):
It's really just thicker split pea soup.
SPEAKER_01 (04:33):
Yeah, no, it's mushy peas.
SPEAKER_02 (04:35):
Well, whatever.
I put a lot of work into mysplit.
Into your split pea soup.
See, I like a thick split peasoup if you're not like water.
SPEAKER_01 (04:41):
But anyhow.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Uh, but no, we're gonna we're gonna be eating some
good food, and then as soon as Iget home to California, uh, I'm
gonna give a free plug to myfavorite drive-thru Mexican
joint, Baldos in Vacaville,where I'm gonna get a giant
plate of carnitas nachos anddump so much hot sauce on it,
uh, I might be able to set mymouth on fire.
unknown (05:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:03):
But I'm loving it.
Right now we were we are smokingCuban Cohiba cigars, and I must
tell you, if you are a cigarenthusiast, if you are an
occasional cigar smoker wholikes to smoke socially, which
is what I do, I'm not aneveryday smoker.
Uh, and I I so then then we'regonna tell you the story of how
(05:26):
we got these, but these Cubans,which would be illegal in our
country, oh, very illegal.
You know, and I've had Cubansbefore, you know, just because
it's a Cuban cigar, let me justtell you, it doesn't mean it's a
great cigar.
Quite frankly, there's someDominicans and some others that
are just just very, very goodthat we have these these days.
(05:47):
But but if you get a good Cuban,and these are very good, then
there's really nothing likethem.
So if you can imagine, I Ipromise you, this is in my
wheelhouse, is to be sittingthere last night, well, dressing
up in my suit, which I waitedthis whole time for.
(06:08):
I waited the whole time, druggedthat thing, my brand new
pinstripe, wanted to wear it forSicily or Italy, and wanted to
go top flight, my my shoes I gotin Stressa, and to sit there and
listen to some Frank Sinatra,and I'm not talking about like
Frank Yois here, I'm talkingabout like the 19, the old
stuff, you know, 30s, 19, thevery vintage Sinatra.
(06:28):
To sit there and listen to that,dressed to the nine, smoking
Cuba cabal uh these Cubancigars, uh, and going to an
incredible restaurant, it wasjust first class, top shelf
stuff, and it is really anexperience like no other.
So it's it's just truly been ablessing.
(06:50):
And even on that note, before weeven got to that, we had a long
bus ride yesterday.
You know, and as so we had athree-hour bus ride from
Calabria, right?
Calabria?
Five hours.
Five hours from Calabria, butthen we broke it up into two and
three-hour chunks.
But anyhow, you see somebeautiful countryside, and now
if you can imagine, and I didpost this on Facebook, to be
(07:10):
riding on this coach with thePat's Peeps group to look out
the window, and you are seeingan orange sunset.
I'm talking dark orange, and inthe middle of that sunset, and
I'm on the front of this coach,it's like watching a movie
because the the coach window isso huge, so I sit in front so I
(07:32):
could do social media.
I couldn't catch it in time, sothat if you see the video, I had
to get it on the side.
I wasn't quite ready for thiswhen it happened.
But when you talk about sunset,that's Mount Vesuvius.
You're looking in the center ofa window at the silhouette of
Mount Vesuvius, which, if youknow history and what Mount
Vesuvius means at Pompeii andthe destruction that it called
(07:54):
us to be looking at that, andthen on the right side of the
coach is a full moon, and ashe's talking Italian and
explaining some of this stuff,and we're listening to some nice
music, um, it was just reallyhard to describe how special
that was.
Because again, how many times inyour life?
(08:15):
I don't know for me, I've seenit a couple of times now.
Will I ever get to see thatagain?
I don't know, maybe, but to seethat was glorious, and I gotta
say, it was I'm so incrediblyglad that we got to see that.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Me too.
I I didn't realize we were gonnabe seeing Vesuvius again on this
trip after uh you know going toSorrento and and uh seeing it
from our hotel there andvisiting Pompeii on a previous
trip.
It never occurred to me thatwhen we drove by Naples we were
gonna be driving by MountVesuvius as well.
Uh that was just super cool, andthat sunset, you're right.
(08:50):
I got a couple of great picturesof that too.
I was just stunning.
Just stunning.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
To look out there, and it was just this, and for
some reason it lasts a longtime.
I don't know what the longitude,latitude, latitude, or I don't
know what it is, but it keeps itright there, man.
The sun seems to set for a longtime over here.
But so we um were again my firsttime in England and in London,
(09:18):
and just walking down, Ryansurprised me.
He said I didn't know where Iwas.
He's like, Alright, Pat, I'mjust gonna take a uh I'm just
gonna record you, shoot a littlevideo while you're walking up
here.
So I'm gonna get ahead of you,and I walk out there, and I
emerge into this beautiful area,and Ryan tells me that this is
essentially like London'sversion of Times Square.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Yeah, Piccadilly Circus is.
I mean, that's where I mean inNew York it's very similar.
Times Square is very similar.
You got a lot of live theatersaround there, like you do around
Piccadilly Circus.
You have the big signs with thevideo boards and the
advertisement, and you know,Times Square has always been
full of those big uh, you know,names and lights and and big
(09:59):
advertising and all that.
It's a little bit smaller thanTimes Square, but it's still
just as spectacular, and it is Ilike a three or four minute walk
from our hotel.
Yeah, literally right off thenight.
And then right nearby here isRegent Street, which is full of.
I mean, I always describe Soho,this area of London, as I mean,
(10:24):
most people know Rodeo Drive inBeverly Hills, and then I always
say, imagine if Rodeo Driveexploded and scattered nuclear
Rodeo Drive fallout over a muchlarger area that's Soho, and
right up the block here, inaddition to Regent Street, you
got Saville Row, which is thecenter of fashion in London.
(10:46):
It doesn't get any nicer.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:49):
And then in Soho in London.
You're real, I mean, from whatI've seen of it, it just has a
very special feel to it.
You know, we come to the hotel,the doors open at the front of
the hotel, and all I see, thefirst thing I see to the left is
a big art piece, I don't know ifit's glass or what, several
profiles of Jimi Hendrix.
As I look straight ahead behindthe desk, they had probably, oh,
(11:12):
I don't know, a huge, beautifulportrait of Jimi Hendrix.
Now, I then I realized when Iturned to my right and they had
a huge portrait of Steven Tyler,I'm like, we are in rock and
roll hotel here, man.
And I want you to give a littlehistory on the hotel for a
second, because what you weretelling me earlier, but the cool
thing is I was noticing, becauseagain, we've only been here,
(11:35):
I've only been here a couple ofhours, but as you come off the
elevators, and if you turn downthe stairs, it's so cool.
You open the elevator dooropens, and there's a portrait of
a rocker there.
Just the most incredible thing.
So what I thought we would do isat some point, you know, travel
the elevators and record what wesee coming out, you know, what
open what the doors open to, sopeople can get an idea of that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
Okay, we can do that.
Yeah, we can do that too.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
And then the speaking of music, what we're
gonna do tomorrow is Ryan and Iare we're gonna get up, we're
gonna take a bullet train,two-hour bullet train to
Liverpool.
And we are going to go seeStrawberry Fields, and we're
gonna go see Penny Lane, right?
We're gonna see Penny Lane,we're gonna see the Beatles'
(12:20):
childhood homes.
Hopefully, we're gonna go to theCavern Club.
I'd like to get a t-shirt orsomething.
Even though I have enought-shirts or a sweatshirt,
something in the Cavern Club,you know, where the Beatles
first played.
And um, it's the magical mysterytour.
And then at some point, Ryan canexpand on this a little bit.
And how cool is this in London?
We're gonna take the dusk tour,the Jack the Ripper tour.
(12:42):
You know, we may not have beenable to celebrate Halloween in
the traditional way this year,Ryan, by you know, handing out
candy, or you know, when we werekids, we'd go out and get the
candy.
But to be on a black volcano ofMount Etna, one of the most
active there is, and walking upto and in that black lava up
around that area, between thatand taking a Jack the Ripper
(13:03):
tour, it's like we expandedHalloween a little bit here.
And it's just a whole newincredible experience.
SPEAKER_02 (13:10):
Yeah, and uh, you know, that's one of a few things
we're gonna do because uh I hadbeen to London for the first
time 22 years ago, and I did gointo the Tower of London, which
is uh you know where Henry VIIIuh would lock people up and have
them beheaded and all of thatstuff, I believe.
We'll get more history when wego, but it also houses the crown
(13:34):
jewels of England, so you know,not uh including the Imperial
State Crown, which is when yousee the films of Queen
Elizabeth's coronation, or ifyou watched uh King Charles
crowned, the Imperial StateCrown is what they place on his
head, and then he'll wear itagain for the opening of
parliament if he goes in theregalia.
(13:54):
Queen Elizabeth uh used to dothat, so that's one thing.
I have been here four times andI've never been into Westminster
Abbey, and so that's where theydo the coronations, and so among
other things, and that's I wantto go in there.
There's a lot of very famouspeople, Winston Churchill and
Joffrey Chaucer, and there's awhole slew of people that are
buried in Westminster Abbey.
(14:16):
Uh, and then uh we've got itpretty well open until the
evening that day when we uh goand do the Jack the Ripper
walking tour at dark.
In the dark in old London.
SPEAKER_01 (14:30):
That's just that is really gonna be cool.
Walking across Abbey Road.
I look forward to that.
We're gonna do a podcast, by theway, the whole uh, you know, as
much as we can on the magicalmystery tour, and we're gonna
definitely be podcasting on thecorner of the crosswalk as we're
preparing.
I'm curious to see how thatgoes.
(14:51):
Do people stop and wait for you?
Do they allow you to just kindof go by yourself, take
pictures?
Are people patient?
I mean, how's that work?
It's pretty wild.
So we're gonna just kind ofreport from there.
You know, we always see thepictures.
People, if they do manage,anyway, blessed enough to be
over there and do that, takethat that iconic photo, then um
walk across that iconiccrosswalk.
I don't really hear peoplestanding over there talking
(15:13):
about getting ready to do it andthey're experienced doing it.
So that's what we're gonna be.
That's what we're gonna bedoing, which I'm really looking
forward to.
That tell us a little bit aboutthe the history of this hotel
we're at, Ryan.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
Well, you know, it's really not that old, but the
building, uh to me, the coolestthing about the building is uh
it previously housed uh aresearch center for MI5, which
is the British equivalent of theFBI.
MI6 is like the CIA, I believeJames Bond, 007, uh, you know,
(15:45):
he would have fallen under MI6.
And so, you know, they've turnedit into this rock and roll
hotel.
And it's like I explained toyou, they they built it for rock
stars to be able to just have aplace to chill.
It hasn't really been aroundthat long, uh, just a few years.
I don't know exactly how longit's been, but like Mark and
(16:08):
Shereen Fuller, the operators,they've been written up in the
Evening Standard newspaper, anduh they just took on a uh new
partner from the music world,Paul Okenfold, who Mark says
might even be here on Friday.
So hopefully we'll get thechance to say hello to their new
partner.
Uh, but uh it's just such achill, like this rooftop bar is
(16:31):
pretty much when I'm here whereI'm hanging out, because we can
sit outside and smoke cigars.
Uh when the weather is better,there's a hot tub up uh, you
know, half a level up here.
Uh, and I have sat in the hottub up here too, and it was
super cold when I got out and Iregretted it even in April.
Uh, and then there's guy there'ssome indoor space uh with a
(16:54):
lovely selection of cigars intheir cabinet.
Very, very expensive cigars.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (17:02):
So these cigars.
So Ryan and I wanted somecigars, and there were a few
other people on the trip, Jeffand David.
There was a few of us who wantedsome cigars, and we kept looking
for these tobacqueras.
Well, guess what they don't havethat I didn't see?
Tobacco.
Now they might have had somecheap cigarettes.
I don't know what in the heckelse they had.
(17:23):
But but so um Marco, who is ourliaison, who does a fabulous
job.
Please check out Pat's Peeps,our group with conservative
tours.
By the way, just mentioned onthis coach ride across Ken
Chase, who runs the business,told us that coming up, he uh
(17:44):
they're gonna be planning a tripto Portugal and Spain.
So this will be our nextadventure that I will be
hosting, which is amazing.
So we have these liaisons likeLorenzo, Romina, uh, Marco, we
have incredible drivers, Nicola.
They're just you wouldn'tbelieve how good they are, how
fun they are on the bus, the waywe laugh, the way we get along,
(18:08):
so they really look out for us.
So we can't find a dagon cigar.
So Marco knows someone who ownsa cigar store, and they got the
good ones, the Davanovs and theCubans, and the uh just all
these great cigars.
Our Truffegas, and and well, theguy's business was either he had
sold out, he was sold out ofcigars.
(18:31):
So Marco gets a hold of a guy.
We go to this little restaurant.
Where were we in that town?
SPEAKER_02 (18:35):
We were uh I can't even remember the name of the
town.
Not Terra, not Terra.
No, no, but it was a no, it wasa tiny little town, and it was a
just a brief stop, and we're ata gelato place.
Yes, and the guy who runs thegelato place, Giuseppe,
Giuseppe, happens to be marriedto a Cuban girl, and they had
(18:57):
some cigars from Cuba, thesecohibas, and they put somebody
on a scooter and sent them overto the house to get the cigars.
On a scooter! Yeah, and theyoffered to sell them to us
individually or the whole box,and I took every bit of euros,
(19:18):
my cash, and I bought the entirebox of 21.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
For 200.
SPEAKER_02 (19:23):
For two for 200 euros.
And it's a box of yeah, 200, 210euros, which is a box of cigars
that costs uh anywhere from 16,1700 to 2,000 dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
So these are beautiful cigars, and that was
an unbelievable score.
SPEAKER_02 (19:40):
For about one-eighth the price.
Just unbelievable.
Well, but here's the thing,guys.
It's like, you know, we ItalianAmericans, uh, we we often kind
of kid around.
Hey, you want something?
I got a guy.
Well, we came to Italy and wegot a guy for Cuban cigars.
(20:00):
Yeah.
And you better believe uh I'llprobably be seeing Giuseppe
again in my future at somepoint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now the trick is gonna begetting what's left back home.
You know, we're gonna smoke,we're gonna smoke them all here.
Uh, Customs and Border Patrol.
We're gonna smoke them all here.
Any cigars you find with us arecigars we purchased in London.
SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
That's right.
Absolutely 100% correct.
SPEAKER_02 (20:24):
Dominicans or whatever they are.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
You know, I don't even know if I on a completely
other note, a completelydifferent note, I want to say
this.
Um, we have our Pat's peepsponsors, one of them being Rock
and Soul Diner in Sacramento.
Tentan R, I believe it is.
Now, I've been telling you thisevery time, and you guys will
benefit from this.
(20:48):
Rock and Soul Diner, R O C and SO L Soul.
Rock and Soul Diner is going togive you two-for-one dinners.
Not breakfast, not lunch.
My friends, we're emphasizingdinner for the entire month of
November.
If you go in for dinner, you saywhat?
Hey, I'm gonna go to a concert,let's say, or you had an event
downtown.
(21:09):
Please do yourself a favor.
You talk about a win-win.
So the Pats peeps, we start tolook good because hey, it's
working, you guys.
If you could do it, then itmakes me look good because my
business starts to work.
Without you, I can't.
So if you go in, you get a freemeal.
You get two for one on you orwhen you order a dinner,
underlining dinner at Rock andSoul Diner, okay?
(21:30):
And then they get the business,you get the free meal, and hey,
again, it makes me look like youknow, it makes it means that my
business is working, and that'sthe model of that.
So that's one thing on acompletely different note.
I am gonna brag for a minute.
I don't know if I did this on aprevious one or not, previous
podcast.
Chances are I did, and I don'tcare.
How about the freaking Dodgers?
(21:51):
Now, you may hate the Dodgers,but it is a remarkable thing
that the LA Dodgers won theWorld Series, they were down in
this World Series, okay?
And I can't here's the thing: when you're over here, the time (22:02):
undefined
difference makes it so difficultunless you are, and I'm a
diehard.
So for me to literally have togo to sleep when the World
Series game is starting, yeah,and it starts at 1 a.m.
in Italy and in Sicily, I wouldlay there with my radio next to
(22:23):
my head like a little kid withmy Dodgers jersey next to me for
good luck, and I would fallasleep.
And I couldn't listen.
But in the mornings, I would getthe scores.
So to all of you who were sokind, when I I'd wake up in the
morning, like I had to havenightmares all night, especially
after the seventh during theseventh game, that the oh god,
oh god, the the Blue Jays won.
It was a nightmare.
And I would think to myself, Ithink this might be, I might be
(22:45):
dreaming.
Maybe I'm not though.
I think I am, but I'm not sureif I am.
So I wake up in the morning, Ican't even sleep, barely sleep.
I wake up early.
First thing I do is I'll look atmy phone, and it's lit up like a
Christmas tree.
So many of you wanted to tellme, hey, Pat, you might want to
wake up and look at this,because your team is
(23:06):
back-to-back champions.
I am so proud of them.
You know, so proud that theywere able to do this.
The first time in 45 years thata team has gone back to back.
It's the well, it's the firsttime in 45 years, I should say,
that a team has won the last twogames on the road in a World
Series to win the World Series,but it's the first repeat
champions since the turn of thecentury.
Ryan, can you get that coat onor not?
(23:27):
Do you need some help?
SPEAKER_02 (23:28):
No, I'll be fine, Pat.
SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
I've been watching trying to put his arm into the
other coat sleeve for, I don'tknow.
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
All of thirty minutes.
All of thirty seconds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I twisted the coat when Igrabbed it with my own thoughts.
SPEAKER_01 (23:40):
Oh no, I see the problem.
It's a Raiders coat.
See, things don't function whenit has Raiders logos on it, is
what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
They function just fine.
SPEAKER_01 (23:49):
Oh, do they?
Unlike the team.
So much for commitment toexcellence.
SPEAKER_02 (23:54):
Unlike the team, the jacket functions just fine.
SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
Team, not so much.
Same thing with the Rams theother night.
I want, I never miss a Ramsgame.
I'm laying on the bed, I startto listen to Rams game.
They're already up big time, andI just like, well, then I fell
asleep.
I couldn't do it.
I woke up and I smoked NewOrleans.
But anyhow, that's my little funum sports while I was over here.
And I'm very proud of them.
I don't, you know what?
(24:18):
I don't care.
People can shake their head.
Oh da da da.
You know what?
Hey, not me.
I'm a fan, and I'm freakinghappy.
I watch every game, and so it'sjust been uh in that way, it's
been it's been really fun for metoo.
So yeah, but it's hard to missthose games, isn't it?
It's so hard, man.
But what are you gonna do?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
You just have to do it when you're traveling, man.
That's all you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
The only thing you can do is catch up the next day,
or just stay up online and notsleep ever.
SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
And that's not reasonable.
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
If there's one thing I love as much as the Dodgers
and the Rams, it's my sleep.
And because it's more important,that comes number one.
So, and I'm the host of thetrip.
I can't be, you know, sluggishduring this whole thing, which
I'm not.
By the way, that's another thingI want to say.
I absolutely have so much funinteracting with everyone on
(25:06):
this crew.
This Pat's Peeps group, some ofthem have gone on five trips
with me.
You know, there's some Georgeand Jennifer at five, they're at
five, so is Eve.
Of course.
So, and they've already said,yep, we're gonna go to Portugal
and Spain with you coming up.
SPEAKER_02 (25:21):
And Rick and Gerilyn, they're on at least
three, probably four.
SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
That's right.
Don Starr has been on at leastfour.
SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
I'm on three.
SPEAKER_01 (25:28):
Dale is on three, you're on three.
So, and then we grow first.
Yeah.
And then we grow and we we meetnew friends all the time.
Marty and Cecilia, Cecilia,Cecile, Cecile from uh from New
Jersey, just outside ofPhiladelphia.
Absolutely uh incredible couple.
Sarah, who is the sweetheartwho's out here hosting us right
(25:50):
now, who just walked out here.
We're doing a podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Sarah, come over here real quick.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Oh, she doesn't want to be on, but she's got a good
personality.
SPEAKER_02 (25:56):
What I what we didn't tell you is my friend Pat
Walsh here hosts a radio programin Sacramento, California, and
he also does his podcast.
And we, of course, have beenpodcasting from Sicily and Italy
and now London.
So, and Sarah here uh has onlybeen working for Mark and
Shireen Fuller here at theSanctum Soho for a month now.
SPEAKER_01 (26:18):
I don't think tech do you have an accent or are you
American?
Oh no, she has an accent.
I haven't heard you talk.
SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
I'm definitely a London off.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Oh, there I got to hear her voice.
I I'm sorry.
I didn't really hear your voiceas well when you were talking to
Ryan.
Oh, yes, you were born andraised here.
SPEAKER_00 (26:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:33):
How many generations now in London?
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
The best.
SPEAKER_02 (26:37):
First generation?
Where's your family from?
SPEAKER_00 (26:39):
Jamaica and Cuba.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
Really?
So Commonwealth members.
Not surprising, right?
It's all one big happy family inthe Commonwealth, right?
Sarah's laughing at that becausewe don't want to be a little bit
more.
She knows I'm on the spot.
She knows I'm full of along.
SPEAKER_01 (26:54):
It's just always nice to have a pleasant woman's
voice saying hi on my podcast.
Rather than us, she's been verypleasant.
SPEAKER_02 (26:59):
Two mooks like us.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
It's a whole different story.
So Pat here has never been toLondon.
Never.
This is his first time.
He's been here all the way tomadness.
Is it the madness?
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
It's quiet madness.
You'll say things that youshouldn't be seeing in the
streets.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
Is that right?
SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
Yeah, you'll say that.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Oh, that's that's that's a tease, what we call in
the radio business a tease.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
We may I'll I'll ask her more about that off of the
podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
But what if there was one thing that a first timer
should see when they're here,what would you say to uh you
need to get out today, becauseit's bonfire night.
SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
So some traveling with a beautiful pilot today is
a guy's night today.
SPEAKER_01 (27:45):
A bonfire?
SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
It's bonfire night.
Where?
It's Guy Fox Knight.
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
It's Guy Fox Night!
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Oh my god, are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_02 (27:53):
Wow.
Is there a time that's supposedto start or not now?
When where?
SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
Yeah, uh so get to get to the river, you'll see
something like amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
Oh, down by the river Thames.
Yeah.
Okay.
We're a little ways from theThames here.
SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
Not too far, but it's uh 10 minutes on the on the
in a car or a 20-minute walk.
SPEAKER_02 (28:14):
Okay.
Wow, how about that?
SPEAKER_00 (28:15):
The entire skyline's gonna be lit up.
Actually, watch it outside ofthe house of the parliament.
Watch it just for the justice.
SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Outside of the houses of parliament.
Watch it outside of Parliament?
SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Okay.
That's true.
We have to forgot about that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:36):
You gotta go see that, man.
I I I would love to see that.
Oh my god.
We better we better hustle this.
Oh, we'll finish this.
It's gonna start soon.
You say more fun.
SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
Sarah, thank you.
Thanks for saying hi.
What a sweetheart, man.
What a sweetheart.
She is great.
Isn't it nice to have thewoman's voice on the five?
Much better than ours.
So, um, where are we at?
Well, I just look.
This is Pat's Peeps 358.
Um, it is it's been anincredible trip so far.
(29:10):
There's still more to see.
The next couple of podcasts.
So we've done the Godfathertour, and you we got to do that
on a podcast.
I want to say thank you toTeresa.
Teresa, if you're listening, sheheard her podcast, she heard
herself on our podcast.
I think it might have beenthree, I don't know, the
Godfather podcast.
And so she finally heard it thismorning, and she wrote me a
message.
(29:30):
She said, Pat, I just finallylistened to the podcast that you
guys gave me the opportunity tobe on, and I can't tell you how
much fun I was listening to it.
She says it felt like a natural,and she was, and so she is so
sweet.
And you know, we might get heron again here at some point on
the show or whatever you, butyou know, the people that have
come on the podcast, thank youso much to the whole group.
(29:53):
They've gone back home now,except for me and Ryan.
They're all they're on their wayback, right?
Making their way home.
SPEAKER_02 (29:59):
They're not, I don't think.
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
No, they're making their way home.
The one good thing about thiscoming to England from Sicily
from Italy, well, we came fromItaly, actually, this on this,
is uh according to Ryan, we gotwe've got about almost three
hours on our flight off already.
So that's gonna make somewhat ofa difference, I think, on the
way home.
SPEAKER_02 (30:14):
Well, plus I got us the shortest possible duration.
So our layover in Denver is justunder 90 minutes.
So we're gonna have to get backthrough customs and hustle to
the gate and get you know, getall checked and everything.
So yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
But we can do it, we can do it, it can be done.
So, with that, you know, wedon't really have any special
music going out, so I thought wewould just go out with the music
that you're hearing, theambiance music that's played
through our entire podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
The Sanctum Soho Soundtrack.
SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
Right, right.
Hey, thank you guys.
Tomorrow we'll talk BulletTrain, we'll do a podcast from
the Bullet Train, we'll do apodcast from Liverpool, and I
think it's gonna be fabulous.
So make sure to check out Pat'sPeeps 359.
Heck, we're coming up to 365podcasts, one full year of
podcast over a two-year span.
(31:05):
Now, that's a lot of podcasts.
Because I don't do holidays andI don't do weekends, so that's a
lot of podcasts.
Love you all.
Be blessed.
Thank you for listening.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Pat's Peeps Podcast.
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