July 1, 2024 • 56 mins
What does it take to build a dream home on a tight budget? Join us in this episode as Anoki and her partner share their incredible journey of constructing a new home in North Georgia with limited resources. From hand-clearing land to the challenges of insulating an older house, they provide a detailed account of their hands-on approach and meticulous planning. Along the way, Taylor joins the discussion, and we celebrate the progress and excitement that comes from sheer hard work and innovative strategies.
As the episode progresses, we take a sobering look at the rising crime rates associated with the influx of dangerous criminals from countries like Venezuela. We explore the parallels with historical migrations from Cuba and discuss the broader societal implications, including the disturbing increase in violence and brutality. Additionally, we touch on recent developments involving Julian Assange, election controversies, and alarming vaccine-related issues, painting a comprehensive picture of the challenges currently facing our society.
In the final segments, we delve into the theme of personal responsibility and the limitations of institutional support systems. Anoki shares her courageous journey of rejecting conventional medical treatments for alternative healing methods, emphasizing the resilience required to pursue such paths. We also discuss how personal growth mirrors the physical act of building a home, highlighting the interconnectedness of mind, body, and spirit. Through personal anecdotes, we underscore the transformative power of health and home building, encouraging listeners to take control of their choices and embrace the journey toward holistic well-being.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning if you are joining us live.
Good morning.
This is Patty, with Patty TalksToo Much, and I'm here with my
dear friend Enoki and it's ait's kind of an overcast, gray
day here in Georgia.
We are we are Anokhi and I arelike about 40 minutes apart in
(00:32):
in North Georgia, so we're bothexperiencing the same weather.
Taylor, you know, I did giveher a wake-up call but it went
right to voicemail, so I don'tknow what that means for her to.
They might need to sleep but umyeah, but so enoki and I have
already been talking a littlebit.
(00:54):
She's been giving me a littletour, so I might have you just
repeat yourself a little bit,enoki, because I think this is
really exciting.
So the, the home kit hasarrived a little over a week ago
and Enoki and her partner aremoving through slowly to do the
(01:14):
build out, you know.
So you want to just, you wantto just say very briefly, enoki
I know we've already beentalking about this, but very
briefly what you've done so farthis week and how you're
approaching this build out on a,you know, on a small budget.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, so we're just trying to do things in like
small strides.
You know, I mean, getting thebuilding here was like a huge
thing.
That was that was really timeconstricted, you know, like we
only had two weeks to clear theland, to grade the driveway.
We didn't have any big tools sowe did everything by hand, with
(01:58):
stiff breaks it's a huge amountof work, yeah oh, it was a lot
of work.
It was a lot, a lot of work andand, uh, it was exhausting.
And now, um, now we have thebuilding here, we don't have
time restraints like getting itset up, so we're just trying to
do a little bit of it, you know,consistently.
(02:20):
You know to work towards theend goal of it being done, but
also not to like break the bankbecause it's.
You know to work towards theend goal of it being done, but
also not to like break the bankbecause it's.
You know it's 800 square feet,which means it's 800 square feet
of walls, 800 square feet offloors, 800 square feet of
ceiling, and that's not countingin the interior walls that we
put in.
That's additional squarefootage for walling that we're
(02:44):
putting into it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know plus we have electric and things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So you know, last weekend we got the breaker panel
and stuff and this weekend wegot ten sheets of drywall to try
to do the studio room that I'mworking.
So it's going to be the musicstudio, master slash recording.
(03:11):
I have my guitars.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Taylor just joined us , so I wanted to say good
morning.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I wanted to say good morning to Taylor Anoki you
already have walls up.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, anoki, you already havewalls up.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, anoki, you're alreadyputting up walls Look look
sheetrock hey.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Jen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Hey, Jen.
What's up, Jen?
Yes, this is where you're goingto sit in.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, that's awesome, that's awesome and you know so
Anoki was saying earlier.
I mean, it's not like you know.
So they're working on like abudget where they put aside
every week.
You know it's like okay, we canspend this, that's right, every
week.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And as long as we're making a little bit of progress,
it's, you know it's going tohappen in time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And then we can take care of two things you know the
right way, and stuff and nice,and you know you know I'm really
looking forward to being a lotwarmer this winter yeah, okay,
well, anoki, so I know you havethat wonderful antique stove in
the main building now are youhave that wonderful antique?
Stove in the main building.
Now are you bringing that uphere?
(04:29):
Or I mean, when you say keepwarm, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, both houses are going to stay completely
together.
But this house because it's not120-something years old.
It has nice new insulation andstuff we're gonna do um some
foam boards and things as well,you know and insulation is so
(04:56):
important.
It is, you know, like you yeahyou spend your time in florida
and everything's concrete block.
You know you don't really knowso coming up you, you know the
stick frame houses, wood houses.
You know you really have topack the walls.
It's cold.
Even though we have someinsulation down there and stuff,
(05:16):
there's still some walls thatare so old and so complexly put
together.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know it would compromise the integrity of my
house to take it apart to putinsulation to put insulation so
we've insulated what we, what wecould and things you know, but
it still, you know, has some,some gaps and cracks.
That you know, lets them in,but luckily the wood stove and
our space heaters and stuff youknow make a really big
(05:44):
difference yeah, that that keepsyou warm, like yeah so, but but
in here you know we're gonna behot now how are you?
gonna do a mini split, probablybecause the mini splits um are
are like a dollar a week to runwhat is that they do?
A really good job, you just amini split is for your air
(06:06):
conditioner and and put a little, a little box outside and it's
got what looks like a hotel, ahotel blower like more wide, you
know, and uh, and it it hasdirectional vents, you know okay
I know what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, so you do you do like yourmain room with the mini split
(06:28):
and then you take these littlefans that are in like a little
box and they mount right intothe wall and you can turn them
on and they'll pull air from themain room like a ductless duct
you know um.
So it'll blow the cold air fromthe main room into the bedrooms
(06:51):
or the work rooms or whateveryou know, and then it's like
having central ac, but it's justthe mini split.
Now your, your room, that youhave the mini split in is always
going to be colder than therest of the house of course, but
they do a really great job ofcooling that room, so much to
the point that, with likeadequate vents, yeah you're,
(07:14):
you're able to share that airwith the rooms, and the vents in
the wall make it so that youcan have the door closed, you
know, and still have privacy but, be, you know, pulling that air
from the other room withoutlike an open ceiling or
something you know, sure whatabout heat, anoki, the mini
splits also, so they one okay, Ididn't know that they they do
(07:39):
both and they're like a dollar,you know, like I said, they're
so cheap to run a mini splitthat it's it's so worth it, you
know but my dad didn't havecamper.
Yeah, yeah, I mean they, they'retoo much for campers really
they're too much yeah, and fortiny homes.
People put them in the tinyhomes because they're great,
they're power efficient, theyrun 120.
(08:01):
You don't have to really worryabout you know power and you
don't have to worry about amajor installation process
because it's just a hose goingthrough the wall.
But they're too much for thatsmall of an's, not a tiny home,
(08:27):
right, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That is, that is so that is so awesome.
You're showing us all how to doit, man, that's right.
Other really awesome things.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So all this work is really paying off because other
really awesome things.
For this week where I weighedin at 176 and none of my clothes
were fitting at all, I went toRoss to try to figure out what
size clothes I am.
I was like, well, I'll go toRoss, I'll try on a bunch of
stuff, I'll see what size I am,and then I'll go to Goodwill.
(08:58):
But it's really exciting whenyou've been unhealthy and not
able to do things and notyourself.
You know, to get back to you,to feel good about you, to have
energy to.
You know be able to like evenpicking my son up.
You know like since he's beenborn it's been hard for me to
(09:21):
carry him.
You know I have back problems,whatever.
You know, since I startedlosing all this weight, I like
picked him up like he was afeather congratulations, sanuki.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's awesome.
It's like everything all atonce.
You know new, new home and, umlisten, things are changing.
Before that four-leaf clover,it was just a confirmation.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Do you guys want to see something fun?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Always Look at my hair.
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I love it.
It's blonde.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So I read my horoscope this morning.
Do you guys ever feel supercringe about horoscopes?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I.
I don't know what you mean bythat I don't really associate
super cringe with horoscopes itmade me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So essentially, my horoscope was saying that I have
to put my famous discipline touse and weave words that are
actually and I do love this soulcertified.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Your famous discipline.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I have some sense of discipline.
I'm a really hard worker.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My horoscope was really weird this week too, I I
got a.
I get emails from this, thislady who's really like pretty
consistent but like uh, I neverpay for any of this stuff, but
she just she sends me what shesends me and then I'm like, all
right, I can use this, you know,and then I go from there with
whatever it is.
And she said that somebody thatI was really close with was
(11:06):
really two-faced and on the 28ththey were gonna show their true
self and all this stuff.
You know nothing, nothinghappened.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But I went the whole week, you know, with this like
oh, yeah, see, that's sometimes,I think, like you hear stuff
like that and then youaccidentally manifest it.
Well, not in that case, thatwould be hard to do, but
sometimes you know, you hearthings and you end up
manifesting it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So well you know so my dad called me at work the
other night and he you know mydad, when he calls me late
nights I usually assume he's hada couple drinks and I'll talk
to him later.
Um, but it was so I was likeconcerned.
You know he lives by himselfand it was late.
So I answered the phone and, um, he's like listen, are you at
work right now?
And I was like yeah, and he'slike I need you to be careful.
(12:00):
And I'm like what do you mean?
And he was like I don't know, Ijust have a feeling and I need
you to be careful and make surethat you have your knife on you
when you leave tonight.
So all night at work I was likelooking over my shoulder,
waiting for us to be robbed atgunpoint, like what is going on,
(12:20):
and nothing happened.
But it still scared the shitout of me because my dad doesn't
behave like that does he knowwhat happened by your house last
week?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
oh no, this was before last week, but it was
just really interesting becausethat doesn't happen usually
there's a lot of um stuff in theair about people, particularly
women, um, you know, being alittle less safe these days
because there are a lot ofthings that have been happening
in places that you would thinkwould be safe but ended up not
(12:52):
being safe.
And so there's there's a lotgoing on, particularly with
women.
So if you're a woman alone, ifyou're a woman traveling with
your, your children, things aremore vulnerable.
It doesn't get covered a lot inthe news, but people feel it,
they sense it.
We have had an influx of folkswho have come into our country,
(13:16):
who have come out of prisons andmental institutions, and so we
have some pretty dangerous folkswho are now roaming our streets
.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We have enough of our own dangerous folks.
I don't know.
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well like so.
For instance, the 12-year-oldgirl who was raped and murdered
by three men.
So 12-year-old raped andmurdered by three men.
The year old raped and murdered.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Was that a girl that was missing from Gainesville?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
no, no, I don't think it was.
They still haven't found herright yeah, they still haven't
found her, but this, this girlwas all three of them were from
Venezuela.
So one of the things about theyou know, many of the folks who
are coming in from Venezuelamean like they've tried to
deport some of these people backto Venezuela and Venezuela is
like we don't want them, youknow we don't.
(14:12):
So these particularly are.
Many of them are criminals fromprisons and mental institutions
and so we're seeing like whenyou say, when you hear a crime
has been committed by someonefrom venezuela, then you can be
sure that they were probablyfrom um a prison in venezuela
(14:34):
and they just kind of were, youknow, let loose and a lot of
people from venezuela, I mean Ilove venezuelans, but how the
gangs have taken over in partsof Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Because I'll tell you , like man, every time I ever
like had a Spanish friend, youknow, and I would go to their
house.
I would just wish that myfamily life was like that, like
their dads were so loving andprotective and kind, you know,
and not in a creepy way, youknow, and their moms were so
(15:10):
nurturing and over the.
The people that I always knewgrowing up from Venezuela were
like amazing people.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Amazing people.
I don't want them to lose theirlight, you know, by thinking
the world is seeing them as that.
You know, instead of thebeautiful, amazing people like
mexican men, you know, yeah, god, like they're the best coolest
fucking dad and the people thatI knew.
(15:38):
You know they all came herebecause there was problems there
and they didn't want well, howdid, how did they?
But that was like when it wasstarting out.
You know, yeah, but a lot ofthese.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But but you're you're talking about people who came,
like you know, like most of usare from immigrant.
I mean, all my family is fromimmigrant families and they
didn't they they didn't come inthat way.
They came in like the regularway and then they got, they got
the green card and then they gotnaturalized and they came here
because they were coming for,like, more opportunities.
(16:10):
So there are a lot of thosefolks.
But what I'm talking about is asurge from uh, this, this surge
of um, people like, forinstance, the um when cuba there
was the whole.
What was it called?
It was called the boat, theboat, something that happened
with Cuban.
What happened was Castroemptied out all of his jails and
(16:34):
his mental institutions andsent them, you know, and and
sent them to the United States,like that happened.
In that I think it happened inthe 70s, but I think what we're
seeing is we're seeing more ofthat.
So a lot of the, a lot of thefoot there are, you know, there
are ordinary people who arecoming in, you know, with, with
families, but there is a largenumber of folks who are, who are
(16:59):
connected to the cartels andwho are gang members, and those
are the ones who are reallydangerous, are gang members and
those are the ones who arereally dangerous.
I don't think we in Americahave any idea how dangerous the
cartel.
We haven't lived under carteloccupation, like many of the
places in Mexico.
There are many people fromMexico who are getting out of
(17:20):
Mexico because their whole townsand their whole cities have
been taken over by the carteland it's actually extremely
dangerous to live in theseplaces.
So they're coming to America toget away from the cartels.
And so I think when the cartelskind of migrate to, and many of
the members migrate to America,I think we're going to start
(17:40):
seeing some of the horrors thatsome of these people have been
facing in Mexico and in ElSalvador and in Venezuela.
These people have been dealingwith these cartels for a long
time.
We have and I know we have ourproblems here.
We have a lot of problems inAmerica, but I don't think that
we've had to deal with the levelof brutality and violence that
(18:05):
the cartels bring with them.
And so that's.
You know that that is somethingthat we may have to.
We may have to deal with, youknow, in in the coming years.
I think I'm like I'm not a doomand gloomer, but I think that
over the next six months we aregoing to have to deal with I
(18:25):
mean, there's a lot coming.
I actually feel really greatabout what might be on the other
side of this, but the some ofthis, the darkness that we have
to walk through.
We're going to have to walkthrough levels of disclosure
that people haven't had to dealwith.
Julian Assange is out and he isdropping the dime on so many
(18:45):
things.
So there's all of that chaos.
There's the chaos the electionin our country, which is now
like a total shambles.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
There's stuff coming out about the vaccines.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And now, just this week, there was a study that
came out that has now confirmedthat 74% of the sudden death
people because there's been allof these, there's been this
excess deaths and the suddendeaths 74% of them.
Now this is now peer reviewedvaccine related.
That's huge.
(19:19):
We have States now suing Pfizer.
There are now five States suingPfizer, you know.
So there are all of thesethings that are that are
crumbling, that are crumblingdown.
You know we have disclosurecoming out about 9-11.
Now we I mean, like all in thelast two weeks, there are things
, there are things coming out.
(19:39):
And the key thing about JulianAssange and he said it, he said
when, when, when the truth istotally revealed, 98 percent of
Washington DC will fall.
So we are going to see acrumbling of our DC and you know
, honestly, let it go becauseyou know, let it go because it's
(20:00):
so thoroughly corrupt.
But the thing is is like we'regoing to see kind of a
disintegration of our, of our,of our federal government as as
we move forward and and so oh,and there's the oh, and let's
throw in the crash of the dollar.
So our dollar is not, it's notthe petrodollar anymore, so, and
(20:20):
they've been kind of holdingback, not wanting to let the
people know.
But when the American dollarcrashes, then there's a whole
lot of things that come down.
Now this is all in the next sixmonths.
So we're going to walk through.
You know, there's so many of ushave been saying, well, you
know, it's got to go, it's gotto come down before we can build
something new.
(20:41):
Let it come All right, yes, Iagree, and we're going to have
to walk through it, we're goingto have to live through it,
we're going to have to navigatethe chaos, we're going to have
to keep our heads on straight,we're going to have to keep our
hearts and our spirits as calmas possible as shit is hitting
the fan, because it's justinevitable over the next six
(21:03):
months.
And so I think the three of usare in really good, really good
positions and we've all we'vebeen kind of doing the work, you
know, and, noki, you've beendoing it in your own way, I've
been doing it in my own wayTaylor's been doing.
It's not like any of this stuffis gonna smack us upside the
head and say, oh my God, Ididn't see that coming.
I think we kind of anticipatedit right, but there are a lot of
people in our country who haveno idea what is about to kind of
(21:29):
come, you know, come at them,but we do, and we might not be
like 100% prepared for what'shappening.
There might be some thingswe're like, whoa, how am I going
to deal with this?
But at least we're not going tobe gobsmacked, at least we're
not going to be like, oh, Ican't believe this is happening.
Because I think the three of uswe've been aware, we know that
(21:50):
these, these things arehappening and you know, we know
that we've we're going to haveto know that they've kind of
been happening too, you know, toto extent, you know it's like,
it's like my um, you know, backto the, the whole, you know,
kidnapping in venezuela, stuff,all that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
My friend ed is like 38, I want to say.
I want to say he's two yearsolder than me but he came to
this country.
I went to high school with himand when we were in high school
he said his family came to thiscountry because his dad was in
(22:30):
some influential position.
I don't know if it was likeacting or what, but they were
well off.
They were really well off.
They had a nanny, they had abutler, they had all these
people you know working for themor whatever you know.
And they, they kidnapped him,his nanny and his butler
kidnapped him from his familyand his family gave up
(22:56):
everything to get him back.
Yeah, and with what little theyhad left they came here, you
know, and and I believe thatthat they did not do that
legally, you know, I believethey just they got the hell out
of there they justgot the hell out of there
somebody took their fucking kid,you know like fucked up, you
(23:18):
know, and they left.
They didn't care what they had,what they could have yeah, yeah
, they just got you know now,this was this was.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
These were closest people.
Where was?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
that I don't know if he's from.
I want to say he's fromvenezuela, but it could be
mexico, el salvador.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It could be el salvador.
Yeah, no, he's not mexican he'sno okay he's like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
he's like very fair, skinskinned, dark hair, very
well-spoken Spanish.
I want to say that it washigher-end Venezuela, because
they're more Spaniard there.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yep, they are there.
It's like Argentina.
Argentina is a very elegantSpaniard, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
so was Venezuela.
So they were from that good,that old, dignified country.
And all that happened to themand they were like we're just
getting out of here.
And I believe he just got hiscitizenship, he went to high
school, did everything here,lived only new here.
Really, you know and justbecame a citizen, but but he, he
(24:33):
had to flee there.
You know so, because that waswhat I was going to say, not
everybody that that is fleeing,that situation is part of, oh
yeah you know a lot of them arevictims of that, trying to get
away absolutely that yeah andI'm sorry if I gave that
impression.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
yeah, but that's not, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify.
Oh yeah, no, I'm glad Because Iagree Not all of it is like old
immigration, or you know, noteverybody who's family are
immigrants came over, you knowand actually immigrated.
A lot of people had to come thehard way.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Oh yeah, they're getting the hell out of Dodge.
There's this book that I wantto mention because it has to do
(25:37):
with what you're what you'retalking about, anoki, and I read
it back just a just a littlewhile ago.
It's called American Dirt andit's marketed as fiction, but it
is so based on real experiences, but you can tell.
And so, basically, this womanand her nine-year-old son flee
Mexico to come to America andthey come through the southern
border, they travel on top oftrains and all of that.
They travel on top of trainsand all of that, and it is
absolutely treacherous and justthe detail of what they go
(26:00):
through and what they sufferthrough to get here, just trying
to survive, just trying tosurvive, just trying to get to a
place that they can survive andnot die.
It's absolutely treacherous, butthe reason why this mother
decided to come to America thatway with her nine-year-old son
(26:20):
was because the whole bookstarts with a quinceanera party
at their home for a member ofthe family.
Now her husband was ajournalist in this town, and
what happens is these cartelmembers show up and they kill
(26:44):
everyone at the party.
So her whole family is wipedout in moments, and the only
reason why she and her sonsurvived is because they were in
the bathroom and they hid inthe shower, and so when the men
swept the house they didn't seethem hiding in the corner of the
shower, and so from that pointon she knew she needed to escape
(27:09):
.
She needed to get out of Mexicoand come, because it was the
cartel who they were comingafter her family, and the thing,
what was so crazy waseverywhere she went along the
way, like to stay at a hotelwhile she's trying to get
somewhere.
The people in the hotel werepaid by the cartel you know to
to be the eyes and the ears ofthe cartel.
(27:30):
Like she felt, like she wasn'tsafe anywhere Because everybody
was was on the was on the youknow was basically of the cartel
.
You know just, you know peopleeverywhere and and what a, what
a terrifying.
And that's why I was thinkingit's like, yeah, this is, this
is um, build as fiction, but um,there's so much and I didn't do
(27:50):
the research into um, the, thewriter, and I and I'm and I
forget her name, but awesomebook, it's called American Dirt
and oh, is it an eye opener.
So I think it's a book that youknow, everyone should read,
because it really does chronicleand show how treacherous and
(28:12):
how brutal the cartels are andjust how treacherous it is to
try to escape them, like oncethey have yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's not like the fbi or government or country or
whatever that's in one place.
You know, it's definitely awhole network of of of people
you know, and little littleladies and old men and young
kids, and you know people fromall over, all walks of of life.
(28:43):
You know, because they reallyfigured out, you know money
money you know will manipulatepeople to do a lot of things, of
course.
I mean, these are you know youknow, but then, yeah, then they
cover their bases.
So it's not if you mess up withthem, it's not you, it's you
(29:03):
and your whole family,absolutely, and and it's you
wherever you go, it's anycountry, it doesn't matter where
you go, because there arepeople from everywhere.
Yeah, they have eyes.
So games of any any time.
You know they've got the FBI,you know they've got all that
like.
Looks like nothing compared tothem.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, I think, like you, you know, you have people
who have say, bought into, okay,this is what I need to do to be
, you know, rich, or I want tobe rich and I want to have the
fame.
And so then they, they climbthat ladder and they live, they
get to that life and everythingand they make whatever
compromises they have to make toget there.
And they get there, and thenthey have epiphanies and I also
(29:50):
think, like this is all part ofthe awakening.
So you have a lot of thosefolks that you're talking about
going through their ownawakening and saying, whoa, so
this is the perspective change.
They're waking up and they'resaying how do I really want to
make a difference in mycommunity and in the world?
And this is what I want to do.
I don't want to promote the shitthat the music industry wants
me to promote.
(30:10):
I want to promote other things.
I want to promote other things.
I want to promote peace.
I want to promote, you know,empowerment.
I want to promote, you know,these, these things, you know,
compassion and and and so forth,and so they're, and that that's
now what they're they'reputting out.
So I think that's just evidenceof more, more people waking up
(30:31):
and changing their, you know,using using this, this
influential position that theyhave to share.
Like you know, using using this, this influential position that
they have to share, like, youknow, the Kings that you're
referring to, to share aperspective that's very
different, like they don't wantto go into the community and say
yo, yo, you know it's all about.
You know, bitches and hoes, youknow.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
so it's all about it's all about the Benjamins.
Everything in moderation, yeah,everything in moderation I
think, like you know, it's allabout the Benjamins.
Everything in moderation, yeah,everything in moderation.
I think, like you know, yeah,sex is great.
You know, like drugs can be funsometimes, you know, depending
on which ones, but after so long, like, what else do you have,
you know?
(31:09):
And then I think, like a lot ofpeople you know are giving up,
like in the drug world.
The drugs are so People arejust zombies.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's like eating the Tide Pods.
All the kids were eating theTide Pods and dying or whatever,
and they kept doing it, theykept doing it, they didn't stop
doing it, they died.
But what else were they?
Looking at them like, a lot oflike the, the prostitutes that
are out on the street, you know,were like raped by their father
(31:43):
or their uncles or their familymembers, you know, until they
were like nothing.
And then, by the time that theyhad like reached, you know, an
age to actually start dating,you know, and they start sharing
their experiences, then they'reshunned and you know they're
yeah, oh, absolutely yeah, andyeah, thrown out to nothing.
And so then you know what dothey do?
(32:03):
They start walking the streets.
You know what happens morepeople want to come up and and
use them like that, you know.
And then somebody gives themsome drugs and they start doing
drugs.
You know like, and never at anypoint was there like an option
or a different perspective forthem to grab onto.
You know, we're not like theNetherlands, but we won't give
(32:25):
anybody any help, you know.
And then we want to condemnthem for how bad it gets by the
end of it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And see here's the thing, Inoki it gets by the end
of it.
And see here's the thing, Enoki, I know, like you know, and I
have empathy for the folks outthere who have fallen into
fentanyl, who have fallen intoyou know, they're out on the
street and so forth and, however, the reason why you things
turned around for you was thechoices that you made.
Could there have been help?
(32:52):
Yes, but ultimately the choicesthat you've made.
Could there have been help?
Yes, but ultimately it's ourchoices.
We have to take responsibilityfor the choices that we make.
We've all made really, reallybad choices and we've gone down
some roads that maybe weshouldn't have gone down.
But at some point, maybe it'sthrough hitting bottom or
whatever that we start makingdifferent choices.
(33:13):
And I think the further downthe road you go, the deep, dark
road you go, it's harder.
It takes more effort to comeout of that, and so oftentimes
people give up and they just,they're just on the process of
killing themselves slowly.
That's really what it is, butit's really, too, all about
choice.
So we could say the governmentshould have done more, the
(33:34):
schools should have done more,the medical system should have
done more, but one of the thingsthat's becoming glaring.
Yeah, the glaringly obviousthing right now and it's going
to become even more obvious isthose institutions aren't going
to help us.
We're on our own.
So it's really about us takingresponsibility for our mental
health, for our physical health,for our physical health, for
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our skills.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, you know, I think that was like part of my
whole epiphany was separatingmyself from the institutions and
from the labeling and from theorganizations and from, you know
, aa, telling me that I wasnever going to be better.
Telling me that, you know, Iwas.
I was dirty in my soul, youknow, making me feel like like
(34:21):
nothing was going to make itbetter ever started, just one
step at a time, doing thedecision that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That felt that was right, you know, and not what
everybody was like oh, this iswhat you're gonna do, you know,
and then me doing that you know,like the suggestiveness of my
life falling apart was part ofwhat made my life fall apart
yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, like what we were talking about earlier.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It was what was condemning.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, you know you took your life back.
True, I mean in theseorganizations, even AA and NA, I
mean it's really.
I mean I'm not saying that theydon't do good work in the
community, but they are reallyset up for people to be
completely dependent on them.
They serve as an authority inthe community and I think like,
(35:18):
ultimately, what we have to cometo is that we are the ultimate
authority over our lives and andwe are the ones who are making
choices.
We have free will and we needto make these choices, and
sometimes it means saying fuckyou to all of the forces, all of
the authorities in our lives,because they don't, it turns out
, have our best interest in mind.
(35:42):
Let me share a little somethingthat's going on in my life.
That's exactly like what you'retalking about, Anokhi, but it
looks different, obviously,right.
So I've got this diagnosis.
Well, yeah, pretty much it's adiagnosis, right?
I have both rheumatoidarthritis and osteoarthritis.
I have both going on in adiagnosis, right, I have both
rheumatoid arthritis andosteoarthritis.
Like, I have both going on inmy body right, mostly in my
hands.
Now there's no cure.
(36:02):
So what do they say?
They say, well, you know,there's a stuff you can take for
pain and there's a stuff youcan take and there's drugs, but
then there are these sideeffects and everything, and so,
basically, I'm 65, 65 years old,and you're telling me that I'm
going to spend the rest of mylife on these medications?
No, that's not, that's not howI want to live, you know.
And so many of thesemedications.
They they might make yoursymptoms better, but then they
(36:26):
make the condition worse.
Like they might reduceinflammation, but then they they
chip away at your joints andyour bones.
It's like, why would I do that?
So, anyway, I have made adecision that I'm not going to
take pain medication and I'm notgoing to take the medication
that they say will help mycondition.
So now I'm dealing with, likemy regular doctor and a
(36:49):
rheumatologist right, andthey're not bad people, they're
just doctors who are trained inthis particular Western medicine
that I'm kind of skepticalabout.
But the problem is, is like, nowwhat?
So then I had to do my ownresearch, and so then I come to
the decision that and I mighthave mentioned that there's a
functional doctor who wrote thisbook about how you can heal
(37:12):
your arthritis by healing yourgut, you know, through nutrition
.
All right, I like that, that'smy jam, right.
So I've been doing that, but Ihaven't really been seeing the
results.
And then I found another onewhich is all about do these
cleanses?
You do a parasite cleanse, youdo a liver cleanse, you do a
colon cleanse.
You do these things and throughthese cleanses you are able to
(37:34):
put your body in a position tobe able to heal itself.
So but let me tell you something, inoki, this stuff is not for
the faint of heart, like whensomebody decides, for instance,
that they don't want to followWestern medicine and they want
to do the in, the in.
They want to cure their cancera different way.
Oh goodness, it's not like just, oh, I'm going to take this
(37:56):
vitamin every day and my canceris going to go away.
No, they go through.
I mean, it's like it's a totalcommitment to overhaul their
bodies to be able to turn theircancer around.
So you have to be willing to dothat anyway.
So a couple of things happenedin this last week.
So I have these doctors whowant to follow up on me because
(38:19):
they've given me theseprescriptions that I'm not
taking.
I fill the prescription and Iput it in a drawer.
I'm not going to take it.
So what I'm doing in themeantime is following my own
thing.
So these cleanses and changingmy diet and doing supplements.
Well, I was supposed to go toMassachusetts this summer.
I was supposed to be leavingnext week to go up and spend
(38:40):
some time with my family, and Icame to a very, very difficult
decision this past week.
It kind of made me cry a littlebecause, I realized that you
know, because I have to go backto work at the end of July and I
have to be functional, I haveto be able to kind of function
as a teacher.
I mean, even though we are notdoing manual work like all the
(39:03):
stuff you do, you still got todo some things.
Right, you have to be functionalin the class, and your hands
Wow, you know that affectseverything.
So, anyway, I decided to commitmyself to doing a series of
these cleanses this summer, andwhen you go through these things
and Noki, you probably know youcan't be on vacation when
(39:24):
you're doing some of thesethings.
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, you can't mess.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You know what I mean Like these are.
It's really intense.
So I made the decision that,rather than going up north, I
was going to fully commit myselfto doing this series of
cleanses this summer, while Ihad an opportunity before I went
back to work and I had to thentell my mother that I wasn't
(39:50):
coming and I wasn't coming upnorth because and my mom was.
I was I think I was sadder thanher.
She like really understood whatI was saying.
Of course my mom is all aboutnatural remedies and everything,
but she also fully is aware shehad a.
She had a um, a friend who diedfrom the effects of rheumatoid
(40:10):
arthritis and the reason why shedied was because after so many
years of taking like medicationfor her pain, her it affected
her liver and her organs andthey shut down and she died.
That's how much of an effect ithad, because it was all the pain
medication that she was takingover the years to deal with her
arthritis and the pain of herarthritis.
(40:32):
So my mom, she, she, she kindof she gets it, you know she
gets like I have this diagnosis,I'm 65 years old and I have to
make some very real decisionsabout how I'm going to spend.
I mean, I would like to liveanother 20 years or so.
It's definitely affected myhands and definitely a lot of
you know some pain anddefinitely some discomfort, you
(40:53):
know every day and it affectseverything you do.
But I will say this that in thelast week I've also begun to
see some of the inflammation godown and I've had some like I
see, wow, I think I think I'm onto something.
I think I may be able to reallyget this going.
(41:15):
So I'm just at the very tailend of a parasite cleanse.
Next week I'll be doing a liver, a liver cleanse, that's.
That'll be pretty intense, butit's.
There's a lot you know, and Ijust in for anybody who might be
listening and they want to knowmore about this journey I am
doing like a separate podcast.
(41:38):
I'm doing like a separatepodcast that's called can I heal
my arthritis naturally, and Ido put it up on my my Patty
talks too much channel, you know, for a podcast, and also on
Rumble.
So if folks want to look forthat, you know, after I do each
cleanse and as I move through,I'm going to be letting people
know okay, this is, this is howit's going.
These are the results.
I don't know.
I'm either going to besuccessful or not, and if I'm
(41:58):
not successful, then I'll I'llhave to, you know, go with, you
know, more of a traditionalapproach, but my whole goal is
to to do this completelynaturally.
So, but yeah, can I heal myarthritis Naturally?
I stopped doing this separatepodcast and, like, once a month,
you know, I'll give an updateon how things are going.
But but I do feel like I'veI've made a little.
(42:20):
I've been able to see like alittle bit of progress this week
, but it was still kind of a sadweek because I, you know, I had
to make a really hard decisionabout, you know, investing my,
my summer in doing these seriesof cleanses before I returned to
work and some of the things youknow, like you know, I won't go
(42:42):
into detail now, but, like youknow, in my, in my podcast on
arthritis, I go into detailabout what it really looks like
to to do this every day, whatI'm doing every like.
I'm not going to go into thedetails in this, in this podcast
, but, like it's not for thefaint of heart, it is not.
This approach is not for thefaint of heart.
(43:04):
You really have to be all in.
So this is the commitment thatI've made.
But, like, just like you, inoki,when you woke up that day and
you said I'm taking my life back, this is, and so for me, it's
like I'm generally a veryhealthy person and would like to
live a long, healthy life, andthis is, you know, this is
(43:25):
getting in the way, so I'm goingto deal with it in as natural a
way as possible and these aremy choices.
And, of course, every time Isee my doctor, it's like um,
these are the choices that I'mmaking and no, I'm not taking
that medication that you told meI should take.
This is what I'm doing instead,and I feel like if I can be
showing progress every time I goto my doctor and say and see,
(43:48):
these are the results of thechoices that I'm making, and
this is why I'm doing thisapproach because I'm seeing
results.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And they can't argue with that.
Yeah, exactly, and I and thatwas that was that was kind of
like when I did the whole reseton on my life and you know, yeah
, my viewpoint, you know, it'skind of like what's happening
now know, like like I, I felt,you know, I felt like I saw the
(44:17):
progress.
I felt like people who didn'tbelieve that progress was
possible you know was were ableto see that you know yeah, and
and like right now, with likethe weight loss and like being
able, like, like I was gettingto a point where I was like, wow
, you know, like maybe youreally just you just can't, you
know, pass a certain point youknow, you just can't you know,
(44:41):
you have to evolve yourselfbecause you can't be who you
were, you know, which is true.
You know, to an extent, like,like, but but physically, you
know, I feel like I've gone back10 years.
You know, I feel like I'vegotten time back, you know from
(45:02):
stuff.
And that in itself is, like youknow, changing the viewpoint,
changing the.
You know I can, you know, getrid of this.
You know pain and this you, youknow weight and all this shit
that I'm carrying around and youknow I I can go back to, to you
know who I want to be and shapemyself as a person.
(45:25):
You know and find things thatwork for me to be able to be me.
You know like and and I seethat that's like you know in the
last few weeks I you knowbetter emotionally and mentally
and physically.
You know I feel like there's analignment happening.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
You know, with my, with my directions and stuff you
know, and that's inspiring.
You know it's making me feelgood because I feel good I can.
You know kind of banter.
You know back and forth, whichis where all the great things
you know come from just talkingto the nothingness you know.
And so like, like you know,fixing my physical, you know
(46:09):
body has been helping my mentalbody, which is helping my
spiritual body to connect.
It's all connected so it's kindof like going through another
reset, you know like, and I'minterested to see where this
whole next saga goes you know,and since all this has started
(46:29):
like, we got the building herewe're putting in.
You know the walls and thefirst room that we're finishing
in, you know the the walls andwe're the first room that we're
finishing is the music, yourmusic studio and yeah which is
really awesome.
You know, like, like, as soonas I I have this room climate
controlled, I can bringinstruments up yeah, yeah, set
(46:51):
some things up, you know, andand and whatnot.
We did get floor for this roomtoo, um, so so we have floor for
this room and we've got floorfor two other rooms, um, but we
still need the main area to getsome floor.
But I mean you know, like likeit's like big they're.
(47:13):
They're little little things,you know, but when you start
putting them together, they'rereally big.
But part of all of this, youknow, was getting healthy,
having a positive outlook,starting to think of how we
could change to make things workyou know, for everyone, and
(47:33):
then physically being able to doit.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know I am just a hopeless english teacher, anoki,
so you know I've got to connectsomething to like metaphor
story, so I'm going to do that,okay.
So, um, your story, right, likeyou're going through this mind,
body, spirit journey, right,and you know, and so am.
But I'm just looking at yourstory and, like every week we
(47:59):
get an update on, like thishouse that you're building and I
think, like home, like our home, is also a reflection of us.
It's like you know what I mean,it's a reflection of us.
So, so, while you're goingthrough this process, this
transformation, while you'regoing through this process, this
transformation mind, body,spirit there's this outer
(48:19):
expression, this house.
That's like a metaphor for yourlife, where it is being built
and created room by room, pieceby piece.
And I find it reallyinteresting not surprising at
all that the very first room youare finishing is the room where
(48:40):
you will be most creative.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, you know, because I think creativity is
like where it's at.
Yeah, absolutely I've neededthis space.
I think that Jen's needed thisspace.
I'm really excited for what wedo for Nidus and stuff like yeah
(49:02):
, his, his room and school areaand stuff are going to be really
, really exciting.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I, of course I I'm going to look forward to all of
the updates as we move forward.
It's really exciting and Ithink it's also really inspiring
for folks who want to feel moreempowered in their lives by
maybe getting their own littlepiece of land and building out
(49:30):
their own home and they think,oh, I can't do that because I
don't have a bunch of money.
You can figure it out.
You can figure out how to do iton a smaller budget.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think you are definitely a be the change that
you want to see kind of person.
Yeah, and you know, I am too,and I think you know like the
world shoves these realities onour throat and they're like this
is what you got.
You are we're like yeah, Idon't think so no no, I don't
(50:07):
think so.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, yeah and I think you know, for me, enoki,
and um, I don't know if you alsohave this experience, but
sometimes, I mean, I think forme it's meant that sometimes I
live a more solitary life, kindof, when you go your own way and
you don't go the way of youknow, whatever people think you
(50:29):
should, or you don't think alongthe ways that people think you
should think, then, know,oftentimes it means that, um,
you, you do walk a more solitaryroad.
Um, so you have to be like,really strong, you have to be
really, really strong, and uh toto walk a more solitary road.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Um, sometimes it's hard to be strong because
everybody is fixated on the factthat it's easier to be weak.
It's hard to be strong becauseeverybody is fixated on the fact
that it's easier to be weakit's easier to be what to be
weak like not fight or not, tryor not, you know.
Yeah, it's easier to not pushpast that first point, you know
(51:12):
like that first point.
The first wave in the break isthe toughest to get over.
But the first wave in the breakis this is toughest to get over
but once you get over the break.
it's just flat smooth, that'sright.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's like an ocean.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No, that's right.
That's such a good analogy,because that is, you know, that
is true.
It's kind of like making thatfirst, you know that first stand
Getting it yeah, jumping off ofthe dock, yep.
Making that first decision,Absolutely, you know, just
(51:46):
deciding to, and the thing is isthat if it's aligned with, like
our hearts and our spirits, youknow our real being, then it'll
, it'll work out.
It'll work out.
It just takes a lot of courage,though, to go to initially go
against the flow, you know,because the flow is just like
don't think about it, just comeon, just do what everybody else
(52:09):
is doing, Think the wayeverybody else is thinking.
It's gonna be so much easier,and it does.
It takes a lot more effort, andit takes a lot more courage to
say Nope, I'm going to go thisway Because you're right, you've
got to.
You've got to jump that firstwave, you know, that first wave
of resistance, and and sometimesit does get over the break,
(52:31):
yeah, you got to get over thebreak.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely,absolutely, absolutely.
And then, once you know you'reout there, I think of those, um,
I think of baby turtles and um,you know, when they hatch on
the beach and you just it's,it's just such a, an amazing
thing to see, you know, thesetiny little beings and and and
(52:54):
they're just moments old andthey're walking towards the
ocean, these waves, and, and youknow, and they're walking
towards the ocean because it'stheir home, and and and and,
instinctually, in their verycore, they know and they're
walking towards the ocean andthese waves are coming.
Right, the waves are coming, butsomehow, miraculously, they
(53:21):
make it into the ocean.
Sometimes they get swept back alittle bit and then they have
to, but once they make just likeyou said, anoki, once they make
it past that first break, thentheir life is ahead of them in
the wide ocean, or the wideocean of possibility.
Right, their life is ahead ofthem, and I think it's just such
(53:43):
a, you know, great metaphor forhumans and for existence for
existence and for life, and it's, it's beautiful, and I mean
that's why I called my my book,that's why I titled my book
perilous and beautiful, becauseit was this analogy of kind of
going in and not giving up, notgiving up, you know, and it's
(54:08):
and it can be very perilous, butit's also really really
beautiful.
Like I wouldn't trade my lifefor someone else's life you know
what I mean like it's been in alot of ways.
It's been it's sometimes it'sbeen perilous, you know, and
sometimes you know you arewalking a solitary road, but
it's also kind of it's also,it's also beautiful, so touche
(54:29):
to us.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
But yeah, yeah, we got this.
We accidentally figured this,we accidentally figured it out.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
We accidentally figured it out.
And I think, too, one of thethings that you and I, another
thing that you and I have incommon is that we tend to, if we
lead at all, we lead by example.
It's good to also remind peoplethat we all have it in us, you
(55:02):
know, we all, we all have it inus to um, to to make more
empowered choices about, youknow, in our lives, and we all
have the courage to like.
Courage exists in all of us,right?
So we all have courage.
It's just whether or not we'regoing to utilize it or not.
Yeah, so, but anyway, as asalways this has been, it's
(55:23):
always such a delight to spend alittle time on Saturday
mornings with you.
I'm looking forward to, to moreupdates.
I'm sure when we, when we talkagain, there'll be, there'll be
more progress to show, and sothat's all really, really
exciting, yeah definitelydefinitely every, every time,
(55:45):
something will be different,something yeah, yeah
and that's awesome, that'sawesome.
Well, one wall at a time, onewall, one wall at a time.
I tell you it's a greatmetaphor for your life at this
point and for all of us, really,and hopefully.
You know, it's still gray outthere, so I guess we're just
(56:07):
going to have to provide our ownsunshine.
Today, we'll provide our ownsunshine, own sunshine.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
so um, at any rate, um, I hope, uh, you all have a
great week and um sending y'allmuch love.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Love you guys, see you next week.
Next week, it is bye, thank you.
Good morning if you are joining us live.
Good morning.
This is Patty, with Patty TalksToo Much, and I'm here with my
dear friend Enoki and it's ait's kind of an overcast, gray
day here in Georgia.
We are we are Anokhi and I arelike about 40 minutes apart in
(00:32):
in North Georgia, so we're bothexperiencing the same weather.
Taylor, you know, I did giveher a wake-up call but it went
right to voicemail, so I don'tknow what that means for her to.
They might need to sleep but umyeah, but so enoki and I have
already been talking a littlebit.
(00:54):
She's been giving me a littletour, so I might have you just
repeat yourself a little bit,enoki, because I think this is
really exciting.
So the, the home kit hasarrived a little over a week ago
and Enoki and her partner aremoving through slowly to do the
(01:14):
build out, you know.
So you want to just, you wantto just say very briefly, enoki
I know we've already beentalking about this, but very
briefly what you've done so farthis week and how you're
approaching this build out on a,you know, on a small budget.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, so we're just trying to do things in like
small strides.
You know, I mean, getting thebuilding here was like a huge
thing.
That was that was really timeconstricted, you know, like we
only had two weeks to clear theland, to grade the driveway.
We didn't have any big tools sowe did everything by hand, with
(01:58):
stiff breaks it's a huge amountof work, yeah oh, it was a lot
of work.
It was a lot, a lot of work andand, uh, it was exhausting.
And now, um, now we have thebuilding here, we don't have
time restraints like getting itset up, so we're just trying to
do a little bit of it, you know,consistently.
(02:20):
You know to work towards theend goal of it being done, but
also not to like break the bankbecause it's.
You know to work towards theend goal of it being done, but
also not to like break the bankbecause it's.
You know it's 800 square feet,which means it's 800 square feet
of walls, 800 square feet offloors, 800 square feet of
ceiling, and that's not countingin the interior walls that we
put in.
That's additional squarefootage for walling that we're
(02:44):
putting into it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know plus we have electric and things like that.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So you know, last weekend we got the breaker panel
and stuff and this weekend wegot ten sheets of drywall to try
to do the studio room that I'mworking.
So it's going to be the musicstudio, master slash recording.
(03:11):
I have my guitars.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Taylor just joined us , so I wanted to say good
morning.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I wanted to say good morning to Taylor Anoki you
already have walls up.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, anoki, you already havewalls up.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, anoki, you're alreadyputting up walls Look look
sheetrock hey.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Jen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Hey, Jen.
What's up, Jen?
Yes, this is where you're goingto sit in.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, that's awesome, that's awesome and you know so
Anoki was saying earlier.
I mean, it's not like you know.
So they're working on like abudget where they put aside
every week.
You know it's like okay, we canspend this, that's right, every
week.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And as long as we're making a little bit of progress,
it's, you know it's going tohappen in time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And then we can take care of two things you know the
right way, and stuff and nice,and you know you know I'm really
looking forward to being a lotwarmer this winter yeah, okay,
well, anoki, so I know you havethat wonderful antique stove in
the main building now are youhave that wonderful antique?
Stove in the main building.
Now are you bringing that uphere?
(04:29):
Or I mean, when you say keepwarm, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, both houses are going to stay completely
together.
But this house because it's not120-something years old.
It has nice new insulation andstuff we're gonna do um some
foam boards and things as well,you know and insulation is so
(04:56):
important.
It is, you know, like you yeahyou spend your time in florida
and everything's concrete block.
You know you don't really knowso coming up you, you know the
stick frame houses, wood houses.
You know you really have topack the walls.
It's cold.
Even though we have someinsulation down there and stuff,
(05:16):
there's still some walls thatare so old and so complexly put
together.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know it would compromise the integrity of my
house to take it apart to putinsulation to put insulation so
we've insulated what we, what wecould and things you know, but
it still, you know, has some,some gaps and cracks.
That you know, lets them in,but luckily the wood stove and
our space heaters and stuff youknow make a really big
(05:44):
difference yeah, that that keepsyou warm, like yeah so, but but
in here you know we're gonna behot now how are you?
gonna do a mini split, probablybecause the mini splits um are
are like a dollar a week to runwhat is that they do?
A really good job, you just amini split is for your air
(06:06):
conditioner and and put a little, a little box outside and it's
got what looks like a hotel, ahotel blower like more wide, you
know, and uh, and it it hasdirectional vents, you know okay
I know what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, so you do you do like yourmain room with the mini split
(06:28):
and then you take these littlefans that are in like a little
box and they mount right intothe wall and you can turn them
on and they'll pull air from themain room like a ductless duct
you know um.
So it'll blow the cold air fromthe main room into the bedrooms
(06:51):
or the work rooms or whateveryou know, and then it's like
having central ac, but it's justthe mini split.
Now your, your room, that youhave the mini split in is always
going to be colder than therest of the house of course, but
they do a really great job ofcooling that room, so much to
the point that, with likeadequate vents, yeah you're,
(07:14):
you're able to share that airwith the rooms, and the vents in
the wall make it so that youcan have the door closed, you
know, and still have privacy but, be, you know, pulling that air
from the other room withoutlike an open ceiling or
something you know, sure whatabout heat, anoki, the mini
splits also, so they one okay, Ididn't know that they they do
(07:39):
both and they're like a dollar,you know, like I said, they're
so cheap to run a mini splitthat it's it's so worth it, you
know but my dad didn't havecamper.
Yeah, yeah, I mean they, they'retoo much for campers really
they're too much yeah, and fortiny homes.
People put them in the tinyhomes because they're great,
they're power efficient, theyrun 120.
(08:01):
You don't have to really worryabout you know power and you
don't have to worry about amajor installation process
because it's just a hose goingthrough the wall.
But they're too much for thatsmall of an's, not a tiny home,
(08:27):
right, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That is, that is so that is so awesome.
You're showing us all how to doit, man, that's right.
Other really awesome things.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So all this work is really paying off because other
really awesome things.
For this week where I weighedin at 176 and none of my clothes
were fitting at all, I went toRoss to try to figure out what
size clothes I am.
I was like, well, I'll go toRoss, I'll try on a bunch of
stuff, I'll see what size I am,and then I'll go to Goodwill.
(08:58):
But it's really exciting whenyou've been unhealthy and not
able to do things and notyourself.
You know, to get back to you,to feel good about you, to have
energy to.
You know be able to like evenpicking my son up.
You know like since he's beenborn it's been hard for me to
(09:21):
carry him.
You know I have back problems,whatever.
You know, since I startedlosing all this weight, I like
picked him up like he was afeather congratulations, sanuki.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's awesome.
It's like everything all atonce.
You know new, new home and, umlisten, things are changing.
Before that four-leaf clover,it was just a confirmation.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Do you guys want to see something fun?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Always Look at my hair.
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I love it.
It's blonde.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So I read my horoscope this morning.
Do you guys ever feel supercringe about horoscopes?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I.
I don't know what you mean bythat I don't really associate
super cringe with horoscopes itmade me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So essentially, my horoscope was saying that I have
to put my famous discipline touse and weave words that are
actually and I do love this soulcertified.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Your famous discipline.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I have some sense of discipline.
I'm a really hard worker.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My horoscope was really weird this week too, I I
got a.
I get emails from this, thislady who's really like pretty
consistent but like uh, I neverpay for any of this stuff, but
she just she sends me what shesends me and then I'm like, all
right, I can use this, you know,and then I go from there with
whatever it is.
And she said that somebody thatI was really close with was
(11:06):
really two-faced and on the 28ththey were gonna show their true
self and all this stuff.
You know nothing, nothinghappened.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But I went the whole week, you know, with this like
oh, yeah, see, that's sometimes,I think, like you hear stuff
like that and then youaccidentally manifest it.
Well, not in that case, thatwould be hard to do, but
sometimes you know, you hearthings and you end up
manifesting it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So well you know so my dad called me at work the
other night and he you know mydad, when he calls me late
nights I usually assume he's hada couple drinks and I'll talk
to him later.
Um, but it was so I was likeconcerned.
You know he lives by himselfand it was late.
So I answered the phone and, um, he's like listen, are you at
work right now?
And I was like yeah, and he'slike I need you to be careful.
(12:00):
And I'm like what do you mean?
And he was like I don't know, Ijust have a feeling and I need
you to be careful and make surethat you have your knife on you
when you leave tonight.
So all night at work I was likelooking over my shoulder,
waiting for us to be robbed atgunpoint, like what is going on,
(12:20):
and nothing happened.
But it still scared the shitout of me because my dad doesn't
behave like that does he knowwhat happened by your house last
week?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
oh no, this was before last week, but it was
just really interesting becausethat doesn't happen usually
there's a lot of um stuff in theair about people, particularly
women, um, you know, being alittle less safe these days
because there are a lot ofthings that have been happening
in places that you would thinkwould be safe but ended up not
(12:52):
being safe.
And so there's there's a lotgoing on, particularly with
women.
So if you're a woman alone, ifyou're a woman traveling with
your, your children, things aremore vulnerable.
It doesn't get covered a lot inthe news, but people feel it,
they sense it.
We have had an influx of folkswho have come into our country,
(13:16):
who have come out of prisons andmental institutions, and so we
have some pretty dangerous folkswho are now roaming our streets
.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We have enough of our own dangerous folks.
I don't know.
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well like so.
For instance, the 12-year-oldgirl who was raped and murdered
by three men.
So 12-year-old raped andmurdered by three men.
The year old raped and murdered.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Was that a girl that was missing from Gainesville?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
no, no, I don't think it was.
They still haven't found herright yeah, they still haven't
found her, but this, this girlwas all three of them were from
Venezuela.
So one of the things about theyou know, many of the folks who
are coming in from Venezuelamean like they've tried to
deport some of these people backto Venezuela and Venezuela is
like we don't want them, youknow we don't.
(14:12):
So these particularly are.
Many of them are criminals fromprisons and mental institutions
and so we're seeing like whenyou say, when you hear a crime
has been committed by someonefrom venezuela, then you can be
sure that they were probablyfrom um a prison in venezuela
(14:34):
and they just kind of were, youknow, let loose and a lot of
people from venezuela, I mean Ilove venezuelans, but how the
gangs have taken over in partsof Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Because I'll tell you , like man, every time I ever
like had a Spanish friend, youknow, and I would go to their
house.
I would just wish that myfamily life was like that, like
their dads were so loving andprotective and kind, you know,
and not in a creepy way, youknow, and their moms were so
(15:10):
nurturing and over the.
The people that I always knewgrowing up from Venezuela were
like amazing people.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Amazing people.
I don't want them to lose theirlight, you know, by thinking
the world is seeing them as that.
You know, instead of thebeautiful, amazing people like
mexican men, you know, yeah, god, like they're the best coolest
fucking dad and the people thatI knew.
(15:38):
You know they all came herebecause there was problems there
and they didn't want well, howdid, how did they?
But that was like when it wasstarting out.
You know, yeah, but a lot ofthese.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But but you're you're talking about people who came,
like you know, like most of usare from immigrant.
I mean, all my family is fromimmigrant families and they
didn't they they didn't come inthat way.
They came in like the regularway and then they got, they got
the green card and then they gotnaturalized and they came here
because they were coming for,like, more opportunities.
(16:10):
So there are a lot of thosefolks.
But what I'm talking about is asurge from uh, this, this surge
of um, people like, forinstance, the um when cuba there
was the whole.
What was it called?
It was called the boat, theboat, something that happened
with Cuban.
What happened was Castroemptied out all of his jails and
(16:34):
his mental institutions andsent them, you know, and and
sent them to the United States,like that happened.
In that I think it happened inthe 70s, but I think what we're
seeing is we're seeing more ofthat.
So a lot of the, a lot of thefoot there are, you know, there
are ordinary people who arecoming in, you know, with, with
families, but there is a largenumber of folks who are, who are
(16:59):
connected to the cartels andwho are gang members, and those
are the ones who are reallydangerous, are gang members and
those are the ones who arereally dangerous.
I don't think we in Americahave any idea how dangerous the
cartel.
We haven't lived under carteloccupation, like many of the
places in Mexico.
There are many people fromMexico who are getting out of
(17:20):
Mexico because their whole townsand their whole cities have
been taken over by the carteland it's actually extremely
dangerous to live in theseplaces.
So they're coming to America toget away from the cartels.
And so I think when the cartelskind of migrate to, and many of
the members migrate to America,I think we're going to start
(17:40):
seeing some of the horrors thatsome of these people have been
facing in Mexico and in ElSalvador and in Venezuela.
These people have been dealingwith these cartels for a long
time.
We have and I know we have ourproblems here.
We have a lot of problems inAmerica, but I don't think that
we've had to deal with the levelof brutality and violence that
(18:05):
the cartels bring with them.
And so that's.
You know that that is somethingthat we may have to.
We may have to deal with, youknow, in in the coming years.
I think I'm like I'm not a doomand gloomer, but I think that
over the next six months we aregoing to have to deal with I
(18:25):
mean, there's a lot coming.
I actually feel really greatabout what might be on the other
side of this, but the some ofthis, the darkness that we have
to walk through.
We're going to have to walkthrough levels of disclosure
that people haven't had to dealwith.
Julian Assange is out and he isdropping the dime on so many
(18:45):
things.
So there's all of that chaos.
There's the chaos the electionin our country, which is now
like a total shambles.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
There's stuff coming out about the vaccines.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And now, just this week, there was a study that
came out that has now confirmedthat 74% of the sudden death
people because there's been allof these, there's been this
excess deaths and the suddendeaths 74% of them.
Now this is now peer reviewedvaccine related.
That's huge.
(19:19):
We have States now suing Pfizer.
There are now five States suingPfizer, you know.
So there are all of thesethings that are that are
crumbling, that are crumblingdown.
You know we have disclosurecoming out about 9-11.
Now we I mean, like all in thelast two weeks, there are things
, there are things coming out.
(19:39):
And the key thing about JulianAssange and he said it, he said
when, when, when the truth istotally revealed, 98 percent of
Washington DC will fall.
So we are going to see acrumbling of our DC and you know
, honestly, let it go becauseyou know, let it go because it's
(20:00):
so thoroughly corrupt.
But the thing is is like we'regoing to see kind of a
disintegration of our, of our,of our federal government as as
we move forward and and so oh,and there's the oh, and let's
throw in the crash of the dollar.
So our dollar is not, it's notthe petrodollar anymore, so, and
(20:20):
they've been kind of holdingback, not wanting to let the
people know.
But when the American dollarcrashes, then there's a whole
lot of things that come down.
Now this is all in the next sixmonths.
So we're going to walk through.
You know, there's so many of ushave been saying, well, you
know, it's got to go, it's gotto come down before we can build
something new.
(20:41):
Let it come All right, yes, Iagree, and we're going to have
to walk through it, we're goingto have to live through it,
we're going to have to navigatethe chaos, we're going to have
to keep our heads on straight,we're going to have to keep our
hearts and our spirits as calmas possible as shit is hitting
the fan, because it's justinevitable over the next six
(21:03):
months.
And so I think the three of usare in really good, really good
positions and we've all we'vebeen kind of doing the work, you
know, and, noki, you've beendoing it in your own way, I've
been doing it in my own wayTaylor's been doing.
It's not like any of this stuffis gonna smack us upside the
head and say, oh my God, Ididn't see that coming.
I think we kind of anticipatedit right, but there are a lot of
people in our country who haveno idea what is about to kind of
(21:29):
come, you know, come at them,but we do, and we might not be
like 100% prepared for what'shappening.
There might be some thingswe're like, whoa, how am I going
to deal with this?
But at least we're not going tobe gobsmacked, at least we're
not going to be like, oh, Ican't believe this is happening.
Because I think the three of uswe've been aware, we know that
(21:50):
these, these things arehappening and you know, we know
that we've we're going to haveto know that they've kind of
been happening too, you know, toto extent, you know it's like,
it's like my um, you know, backto the, the whole, you know,
kidnapping in venezuela, stuff,all that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
My friend ed is like 38, I want to say.
I want to say he's two yearsolder than me but he came to
this country.
I went to high school with himand when we were in high school
he said his family came to thiscountry because his dad was in
(22:30):
some influential position.
I don't know if it was likeacting or what, but they were
well off.
They were really well off.
They had a nanny, they had abutler, they had all these
people you know working for themor whatever you know.
And they, they kidnapped him,his nanny and his butler
kidnapped him from his familyand his family gave up
(22:56):
everything to get him back.
Yeah, and with what little theyhad left they came here, you
know, and and I believe thatthat they did not do that
legally, you know, I believethey just they got the hell out
of there they justgot the hell out of there
somebody took their fucking kid,you know like fucked up, you
(23:18):
know, and they left.
They didn't care what they had,what they could have yeah, yeah
, they just got you know now,this was this was.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
These were closest people.
Where was?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
that I don't know if he's from.
I want to say he's fromvenezuela, but it could be
mexico, el salvador.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It could be el salvador.
Yeah, no, he's not mexican he'sno okay he's like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
he's like very fair, skinskinned, dark hair, very
well-spoken Spanish.
I want to say that it washigher-end Venezuela, because
they're more Spaniard there.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yep, they are there.
It's like Argentina.
Argentina is a very elegantSpaniard, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
so was Venezuela.
So they were from that good,that old, dignified country.
And all that happened to themand they were like we're just
getting out of here.
And I believe he just got hiscitizenship, he went to high
school, did everything here,lived only new here.
Really, you know and justbecame a citizen, but but he, he
(24:33):
had to flee there.
You know so, because that waswhat I was going to say, not
everybody that that is fleeing,that situation is part of, oh
yeah you know a lot of them arevictims of that, trying to get
away absolutely that yeah andI'm sorry if I gave that
impression.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
yeah, but that's not, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify.
Oh yeah, no, I'm glad Because Iagree Not all of it is like old
immigration, or you know, noteverybody who's family are
immigrants came over, you knowand actually immigrated.
A lot of people had to come thehard way.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Oh yeah, they're getting the hell out of Dodge.
There's this book that I wantto mention because it has to do
(25:37):
with what you're what you'retalking about, anoki, and I read
it back just a just a littlewhile ago.
It's called American Dirt andit's marketed as fiction, but it
is so based on real experiences, but you can tell.
And so, basically, this womanand her nine-year-old son flee
Mexico to come to America andthey come through the southern
border, they travel on top oftrains and all of that.
They travel on top of trainsand all of that, and it is
absolutely treacherous and justthe detail of what they go
(26:00):
through and what they sufferthrough to get here, just trying
to survive, just trying tosurvive, just trying to get to a
place that they can survive andnot die.
It's absolutely treacherous, butthe reason why this mother
decided to come to America thatway with her nine-year-old son
(26:20):
was because the whole bookstarts with a quinceanera party
at their home for a member ofthe family.
Now her husband was ajournalist in this town, and
what happens is these cartelmembers show up and they kill
(26:44):
everyone at the party.
So her whole family is wipedout in moments, and the only
reason why she and her sonsurvived is because they were in
the bathroom and they hid inthe shower, and so when the men
swept the house they didn't seethem hiding in the corner of the
shower, and so from that pointon she knew she needed to escape
(27:09):
.
She needed to get out of Mexicoand come, because it was the
cartel who they were comingafter her family, and the thing,
what was so crazy waseverywhere she went along the
way, like to stay at a hotelwhile she's trying to get
somewhere.
The people in the hotel werepaid by the cartel you know to
to be the eyes and the ears ofthe cartel.
(27:30):
Like she felt, like she wasn'tsafe anywhere Because everybody
was was on the was on the youknow was basically of the cartel
.
You know just, you know peopleeverywhere and and what a, what
a terrifying.
And that's why I was thinkingit's like, yeah, this is, this
is um, build as fiction, but um,there's so much and I didn't do
(27:50):
the research into um, the, thewriter, and I and I'm and I
forget her name, but awesomebook, it's called American Dirt
and oh, is it an eye opener.
So I think it's a book that youknow, everyone should read,
because it really does chronicleand show how treacherous and
(28:12):
how brutal the cartels are andjust how treacherous it is to
try to escape them, like oncethey have yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's not like the fbi or government or country or
whatever that's in one place.
You know, it's definitely awhole network of of of people
you know, and little littleladies and old men and young
kids, and you know people fromall over, all walks of of life.
(28:43):
You know, because they reallyfigured out, you know money
money you know will manipulatepeople to do a lot of things, of
course.
I mean, these are you know youknow, but then, yeah, then they
cover their bases.
So it's not if you mess up withthem, it's not you, it's you
(29:03):
and your whole family,absolutely, and and it's you
wherever you go, it's anycountry, it doesn't matter where
you go, because there arepeople from everywhere.
Yeah, they have eyes.
So games of any any time.
You know they've got the FBI,you know they've got all that
like.
Looks like nothing compared tothem.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, I think, like you, you know, you have people
who have say, bought into, okay,this is what I need to do to be
, you know, rich, or I want tobe rich and I want to have the
fame.
And so then they, they climbthat ladder and they live, they
get to that life and everythingand they make whatever
compromises they have to make toget there.
And they get there, and thenthey have epiphanies and I also
(29:50):
think, like this is all part ofthe awakening.
So you have a lot of thosefolks that you're talking about
going through their ownawakening and saying, whoa, so
this is the perspective change.
They're waking up and they'resaying how do I really want to
make a difference in mycommunity and in the world?
And this is what I want to do.
I don't want to promote the shitthat the music industry wants
me to promote.
(30:10):
I want to promote other things.
I want to promote other things.
I want to promote peace.
I want to promote, you know,empowerment.
I want to promote, you know,these, these things, you know,
compassion and and and so forth,and so they're, and that that's
now what they're they'reputting out.
So I think that's just evidenceof more, more people waking up
(30:31):
and changing their, you know,using using this, this
influential position that theyhave to share.
Like you know, using using this, this influential position that
they have to share, like, youknow, the Kings that you're
referring to, to share aperspective that's very
different, like they don't wantto go into the community and say
yo, yo, you know it's all about.
You know, bitches and hoes, youknow.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
so it's all about it's all about the Benjamins.
Everything in moderation, yeah,everything in moderation I
think, like you know, it's allabout the Benjamins.
Everything in moderation, yeah,everything in moderation.
I think, like you know, yeah,sex is great.
You know, like drugs can be funsometimes, you know, depending
on which ones, but after so long, like, what else do you have,
you know?
(31:09):
And then I think, like a lot ofpeople you know are giving up,
like in the drug world.
The drugs are so People arejust zombies.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's like eating the Tide Pods.
All the kids were eating theTide Pods and dying or whatever,
and they kept doing it, theykept doing it, they didn't stop
doing it, they died.
But what else were they?
Looking at them like, a lot oflike the, the prostitutes that
are out on the street, you know,were like raped by their father
(31:43):
or their uncles or their familymembers, you know, until they
were like nothing.
And then, by the time that theyhad like reached, you know, an
age to actually start dating,you know, and they start sharing
their experiences, then they'reshunned and you know they're
yeah, oh, absolutely yeah, andyeah, thrown out to nothing.
And so then you know what dothey do?
(32:03):
They start walking the streets.
You know what happens morepeople want to come up and and
use them like that, you know.
And then somebody gives themsome drugs and they start doing
drugs.
You know like, and never at anypoint was there like an option
or a different perspective forthem to grab onto.
You know, we're not like theNetherlands, but we won't give
(32:25):
anybody any help, you know.
And then we want to condemnthem for how bad it gets by the
end of it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And see here's the thing, Inoki it gets by the end
of it.
And see here's the thing, Enoki, I know, like you know, and I
have empathy for the folks outthere who have fallen into
fentanyl, who have fallen intoyou know, they're out on the
street and so forth and, however, the reason why you things
turned around for you was thechoices that you made.
Could there have been help?
(32:52):
Yes, but ultimately the choicesthat you've made.
Could there have been help?
Yes, but ultimately it's ourchoices.
We have to take responsibilityfor the choices that we make.
We've all made really, reallybad choices and we've gone down
some roads that maybe weshouldn't have gone down.
But at some point, maybe it'sthrough hitting bottom or
whatever that we start makingdifferent choices.
(33:13):
And I think the further downthe road you go, the deep, dark
road you go, it's harder.
It takes more effort to comeout of that, and so oftentimes
people give up and they just,they're just on the process of
killing themselves slowly.
That's really what it is, butit's really, too, all about
choice.
So we could say the governmentshould have done more, the
(33:34):
schools should have done more,the medical system should have
done more, but one of the thingsthat's becoming glaring.
Yeah, the glaringly obviousthing right now and it's going
to become even more obvious isthose institutions aren't going
to help us.
We're on our own.
So it's really about us takingresponsibility for our mental
health, for our physical health,for our physical health, for
(33:55):
our skills.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, you know, I think that was like part of my
whole epiphany was separatingmyself from the institutions and
from the labeling and from theorganizations and from, you know
, aa, telling me that I wasnever going to be better.
Telling me that, you know, Iwas.
I was dirty in my soul, youknow, making me feel like like
(34:21):
nothing was going to make itbetter ever started, just one
step at a time, doing thedecision that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That felt that was right, you know, and not what
everybody was like oh, this iswhat you're gonna do, you know,
and then me doing that you know,like the suggestiveness of my
life falling apart was part ofwhat made my life fall apart
yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, like what we were talking about earlier.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It was what was condemning.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, you know you took your life back.
True, I mean in theseorganizations, even AA and NA, I
mean it's really.
I mean I'm not saying that theydon't do good work in the
community, but they are reallyset up for people to be
completely dependent on them.
They serve as an authority inthe community and I think like,
(35:18):
ultimately, what we have to cometo is that we are the ultimate
authority over our lives and andwe are the ones who are making
choices.
We have free will and we needto make these choices, and
sometimes it means saying fuckyou to all of the forces, all of
the authorities in our lives,because they don't, it turns out
, have our best interest in mind.
(35:42):
Let me share a little somethingthat's going on in my life.
That's exactly like what you'retalking about, Anokhi, but it
looks different, obviously,right.
So I've got this diagnosis.
Well, yeah, pretty much it's adiagnosis, right?
I have both rheumatoidarthritis and osteoarthritis.
I have both going on in adiagnosis, right, I have both
rheumatoid arthritis andosteoarthritis.
Like, I have both going on inmy body right, mostly in my
hands.
Now there's no cure.
(36:02):
So what do they say?
They say, well, you know,there's a stuff you can take for
pain and there's a stuff youcan take and there's drugs, but
then there are these sideeffects and everything, and so,
basically, I'm 65, 65 years old,and you're telling me that I'm
going to spend the rest of mylife on these medications?
No, that's not, that's not howI want to live, you know.
And so many of thesemedications.
They they might make yoursymptoms better, but then they
(36:26):
make the condition worse.
Like they might reduceinflammation, but then they they
chip away at your joints andyour bones.
It's like, why would I do that?
So, anyway, I have made adecision that I'm not going to
take pain medication and I'm notgoing to take the medication
that they say will help mycondition.
So now I'm dealing with, likemy regular doctor and a
(36:49):
rheumatologist right, andthey're not bad people, they're
just doctors who are trained inthis particular Western medicine
that I'm kind of skepticalabout.
But the problem is, is like, nowwhat?
So then I had to do my ownresearch, and so then I come to
the decision that and I mighthave mentioned that there's a
functional doctor who wrote thisbook about how you can heal
(37:12):
your arthritis by healing yourgut, you know, through nutrition
.
All right, I like that, that'smy jam, right.
So I've been doing that, but Ihaven't really been seeing the
results.
And then I found another onewhich is all about do these
cleanses?
You do a parasite cleanse, youdo a liver cleanse, you do a
colon cleanse.
You do these things and throughthese cleanses you are able to
(37:34):
put your body in a position tobe able to heal itself.
So but let me tell you something, inoki, this stuff is not for
the faint of heart, like whensomebody decides, for instance,
that they don't want to followWestern medicine and they want
to do the in, the in.
They want to cure their cancera different way.
Oh goodness, it's not like just, oh, I'm going to take this
(37:56):
vitamin every day and my canceris going to go away.
No, they go through.
I mean, it's like it's a totalcommitment to overhaul their
bodies to be able to turn theircancer around.
So you have to be willing to dothat anyway.
So a couple of things happenedin this last week.
So I have these doctors whowant to follow up on me because
(38:19):
they've given me theseprescriptions that I'm not
taking.
I fill the prescription and Iput it in a drawer.
I'm not going to take it.
So what I'm doing in themeantime is following my own
thing.
So these cleanses and changingmy diet and doing supplements.
Well, I was supposed to go toMassachusetts this summer.
I was supposed to be leavingnext week to go up and spend
(38:40):
some time with my family, and Icame to a very, very difficult
decision this past week.
It kind of made me cry a littlebecause, I realized that you
know, because I have to go backto work at the end of July and I
have to be functional, I haveto be able to kind of function
as a teacher.
I mean, even though we are notdoing manual work like all the
(39:03):
stuff you do, you still got todo some things.
Right, you have to be functionalin the class, and your hands
Wow, you know that affectseverything.
So, anyway, I decided to commitmyself to doing a series of
these cleanses this summer, andwhen you go through these things
and Noki, you probably know youcan't be on vacation when
(39:24):
you're doing some of thesethings.
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, you can't mess.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You know what I mean Like these are.
It's really intense.
So I made the decision that,rather than going up north, I
was going to fully commit myselfto doing this series of
cleanses this summer, while Ihad an opportunity before I went
back to work and I had to thentell my mother that I wasn't
(39:50):
coming and I wasn't coming upnorth because and my mom was.
I was I think I was sadder thanher.
She like really understood whatI was saying.
Of course my mom is all aboutnatural remedies and everything,
but she also fully is aware shehad a.
She had a um, a friend who diedfrom the effects of rheumatoid
(40:10):
arthritis and the reason why shedied was because after so many
years of taking like medicationfor her pain, her it affected
her liver and her organs andthey shut down and she died.
That's how much of an effect ithad, because it was all the pain
medication that she was takingover the years to deal with her
arthritis and the pain of herarthritis.
(40:32):
So my mom, she, she, she kindof she gets it, you know she
gets like I have this diagnosis,I'm 65 years old and I have to
make some very real decisionsabout how I'm going to spend.
I mean, I would like to liveanother 20 years or so.
It's definitely affected myhands and definitely a lot of
you know some pain anddefinitely some discomfort, you
(40:53):
know every day and it affectseverything you do.
But I will say this that in thelast week I've also begun to
see some of the inflammation godown and I've had some like I
see, wow, I think I think I'm onto something.
I think I may be able to reallyget this going.
(41:15):
So I'm just at the very tailend of a parasite cleanse.
Next week I'll be doing a liver, a liver cleanse, that's.
That'll be pretty intense, butit's.
There's a lot you know, and Ijust in for anybody who might be
listening and they want to knowmore about this journey I am
doing like a separate podcast.
(41:38):
I'm doing like a separatepodcast that's called can I heal
my arthritis naturally, and Ido put it up on my my Patty
talks too much channel, you know, for a podcast, and also on
Rumble.
So if folks want to look forthat, you know, after I do each
cleanse and as I move through,I'm going to be letting people
know okay, this is, this is howit's going.
These are the results.
I don't know.
I'm either going to besuccessful or not, and if I'm
(41:58):
not successful, then I'll I'llhave to, you know, go with, you
know, more of a traditionalapproach, but my whole goal is
to to do this completelynaturally.
So, but yeah, can I heal myarthritis Naturally?
I stopped doing this separatepodcast and, like, once a month,
you know, I'll give an updateon how things are going.
But but I do feel like I'veI've made a little.
(42:20):
I've been able to see like alittle bit of progress this week
, but it was still kind of a sadweek because I, you know, I had
to make a really hard decisionabout, you know, investing my,
my summer in doing these seriesof cleanses before I returned to
work and some of the things youknow, like you know, I won't go
(42:42):
into detail now, but, like youknow, in my, in my podcast on
arthritis, I go into detailabout what it really looks like
to to do this every day, whatI'm doing every like.
I'm not going to go into thedetails in this, in this podcast
, but, like it's not for thefaint of heart, it is not.
This approach is not for thefaint of heart.
(43:04):
You really have to be all in.
So this is the commitment thatI've made.
But, like, just like you, inoki,when you woke up that day and
you said I'm taking my life back, this is, and so for me, it's
like I'm generally a veryhealthy person and would like to
live a long, healthy life, andthis is, you know, this is
(43:25):
getting in the way, so I'm goingto deal with it in as natural a
way as possible and these aremy choices.
And, of course, every time Isee my doctor, it's like um,
these are the choices that I'mmaking and no, I'm not taking
that medication that you told meI should take.
This is what I'm doing instead,and I feel like if I can be
showing progress every time I goto my doctor and say and see,
(43:48):
these are the results of thechoices that I'm making, and
this is why I'm doing thisapproach because I'm seeing
results.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And they can't argue with that.
Yeah, exactly, and I and thatwas that was that was kind of
like when I did the whole reseton on my life and you know, yeah
, my viewpoint, you know, it'skind of like what's happening
now know, like like I, I felt,you know, I felt like I saw the
(44:17):
progress.
I felt like people who didn'tbelieve that progress was
possible you know was were ableto see that you know yeah, and
and like right now, with likethe weight loss and like being
able, like, like I was gettingto a point where I was like, wow
, you know, like maybe youreally just you just can't, you
know, pass a certain point youknow, you just can't you know,
(44:41):
you have to evolve yourselfbecause you can't be who you
were, you know, which is true.
You know, to an extent, like,like, but but physically, you
know, I feel like I've gone back10 years.
You know, I feel like I'vegotten time back, you know from
(45:02):
stuff.
And that in itself is, like youknow, changing the viewpoint,
changing the.
You know I can, you know, getrid of this.
You know pain and this you, youknow weight and all this shit
that I'm carrying around and youknow I I can go back to, to you
know who I want to be and shapemyself as a person.
(45:25):
You know and find things thatwork for me to be able to be me.
You know like and and I seethat that's like you know in the
last few weeks I you knowbetter emotionally and mentally
and physically.
You know I feel like there's analignment happening.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
You know, with my, with my directions and stuff you
know, and that's inspiring.
You know it's making me feelgood because I feel good I can.
You know kind of banter.
You know back and forth, whichis where all the great things
you know come from just talkingto the nothingness you know.
And so like, like you know,fixing my physical, you know
(46:09):
body has been helping my mentalbody, which is helping my
spiritual body to connect.
It's all connected so it's kindof like going through another
reset, you know like, and I'minterested to see where this
whole next saga goes you know,and since all this has started
(46:29):
like, we got the building herewe're putting in.
You know the walls and thefirst room that we're finishing
in, you know the the walls andwe're the first room that we're
finishing is the music, yourmusic studio and yeah which is
really awesome.
You know, like, like, as soonas I I have this room climate
controlled, I can bringinstruments up yeah, yeah, set
(46:51):
some things up, you know, andand and whatnot.
We did get floor for this roomtoo, um, so so we have floor for
this room and we've got floorfor two other rooms, um, but we
still need the main area to getsome floor.
But I mean you know, like likeit's like big they're.
(47:13):
They're little little things,you know, but when you start
putting them together, they'rereally big.
But part of all of this, youknow, was getting healthy,
having a positive outlook,starting to think of how we
could change to make things workyou know, for everyone, and
(47:33):
then physically being able to doit.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know I am just a hopeless english teacher, anoki,
so you know I've got to connectsomething to like metaphor
story, so I'm going to do that,okay.
So, um, your story, right, likeyou're going through this mind,
body, spirit journey, right,and you know, and so am.
But I'm just looking at yourstory and, like every week we
(47:59):
get an update on, like thishouse that you're building and I
think, like home, like our home, is also a reflection of us.
It's like you know what I mean,it's a reflection of us.
So, so, while you're goingthrough this process, this
transformation, while you'regoing through this process, this
transformation mind, body,spirit there's this outer
(48:19):
expression, this house.
That's like a metaphor for yourlife, where it is being built
and created room by room, pieceby piece.
And I find it reallyinteresting not surprising at
all that the very first room youare finishing is the room where
(48:40):
you will be most creative.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, you know, because I think creativity is
like where it's at.
Yeah, absolutely I've neededthis space.
I think that Jen's needed thisspace.
I'm really excited for what wedo for Nidus and stuff like yeah
(49:02):
, his, his room and school areaand stuff are going to be really
, really exciting.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I, of course I I'm going to look forward to all of
the updates as we move forward.
It's really exciting and Ithink it's also really inspiring
for folks who want to feel moreempowered in their lives by
maybe getting their own littlepiece of land and building out
(49:30):
their own home and they think,oh, I can't do that because I
don't have a bunch of money.
You can figure it out.
You can figure out how to do iton a smaller budget.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think you are definitely a be the change that
you want to see kind of person.
Yeah, and you know, I am too,and I think you know like the
world shoves these realities onour throat and they're like this
is what you got.
You are we're like yeah, Idon't think so no no, I don't
(50:07):
think so.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, yeah and I think you know, for me, enoki,
and um, I don't know if you alsohave this experience, but
sometimes, I mean, I think forme it's meant that sometimes I
live a more solitary life, kindof, when you go your own way and
you don't go the way of youknow, whatever people think you
(50:29):
should, or you don't think alongthe ways that people think you
should think, then, know,oftentimes it means that, um,
you, you do walk a more solitaryroad.
Um, so you have to be like,really strong, you have to be
really, really strong, and uh toto walk a more solitary road.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Um, sometimes it's hard to be strong because
everybody is fixated on the factthat it's easier to be weak.
It's hard to be strong becauseeverybody is fixated on the fact
that it's easier to be weakit's easier to be what to be
weak like not fight or not, tryor not, you know.
Yeah, it's easier to not pushpast that first point, you know
(51:12):
like that first point.
The first wave in the break isthe toughest to get over.
But the first wave in the breakis this is toughest to get over
but once you get over the break.
it's just flat smooth, that'sright.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's like an ocean.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No, that's right.
That's such a good analogy,because that is, you know, that
is true.
It's kind of like making thatfirst, you know that first stand
Getting it yeah, jumping off ofthe dock, yep.
Making that first decision,Absolutely, you know, just
(51:46):
deciding to, and the thing is isthat if it's aligned with, like
our hearts and our spirits, youknow our real being, then it'll
, it'll work out.
It'll work out.
It just takes a lot of courage,though, to go to initially go
against the flow, you know,because the flow is just like
don't think about it, just comeon, just do what everybody else
(52:09):
is doing, Think the wayeverybody else is thinking.
It's gonna be so much easier,and it does.
It takes a lot more effort, andit takes a lot more courage to
say Nope, I'm going to go thisway Because you're right, you've
got to.
You've got to jump that firstwave, you know, that first wave
of resistance, and and sometimesit does get over the break,
(52:31):
yeah, you got to get over thebreak.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely,absolutely, absolutely.
And then, once you know you'reout there, I think of those, um,
I think of baby turtles and um,you know, when they hatch on
the beach and you just it's,it's just such a, an amazing
thing to see, you know, thesetiny little beings and and and
(52:54):
they're just moments old andthey're walking towards the
ocean, these waves, and, and youknow, and they're walking
towards the ocean because it'stheir home, and and and and,
instinctually, in their verycore, they know and they're
walking towards the ocean andthese waves are coming.
Right, the waves are coming, butsomehow, miraculously, they
(53:21):
make it into the ocean.
Sometimes they get swept back alittle bit and then they have
to, but once they make just likeyou said, anoki, once they make
it past that first break, thentheir life is ahead of them in
the wide ocean, or the wideocean of possibility.
Right, their life is ahead ofthem, and I think it's just such
(53:43):
a, you know, great metaphor forhumans and for existence for
existence and for life, and it's, it's beautiful, and I mean
that's why I called my my book,that's why I titled my book
perilous and beautiful, becauseit was this analogy of kind of
going in and not giving up, notgiving up, you know, and it's
(54:08):
and it can be very perilous, butit's also really really
beautiful.
Like I wouldn't trade my lifefor someone else's life you know
what I mean like it's been in alot of ways.
It's been it's sometimes it'sbeen perilous, you know, and
sometimes you know you arewalking a solitary road, but
it's also kind of it's also,it's also beautiful, so touche
(54:29):
to us.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
But yeah, yeah, we got this.
We accidentally figured this,we accidentally figured it out.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
We accidentally figured it out.
And I think, too, one of thethings that you and I, another
thing that you and I have incommon is that we tend to, if we
lead at all, we lead by example.
It's good to also remind peoplethat we all have it in us, you
(55:02):
know, we all, we all have it inus to um, to to make more
empowered choices about, youknow, in our lives, and we all
have the courage to like.
Courage exists in all of us,right?
So we all have courage.
It's just whether or not we'regoing to utilize it or not.
Yeah, so, but anyway, as asalways this has been, it's
(55:23):
always such a delight to spend alittle time on Saturday
mornings with you.
I'm looking forward to, to moreupdates.
I'm sure when we, when we talkagain, there'll be, there'll be
more progress to show, and sothat's all really, really
exciting, yeah definitelydefinitely every, every time,
(55:45):
something will be different,something yeah, yeah
and that's awesome, that'sawesome.
Well, one wall at a time, onewall, one wall at a time.
I tell you it's a greatmetaphor for your life at this
point and for all of us, really,and hopefully.
You know, it's still gray outthere, so I guess we're just
(56:07):
going to have to provide our ownsunshine.
Today, we'll provide our ownsunshine, own sunshine.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
so um, at any rate, um, I hope, uh, you all have a
great week and um sending y'allmuch love.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Love you guys, see you next week.
Next week, it is bye, thank you.
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