June 23, 2024 • 56 mins
Can the full moon in Capricorn transform your love life and emotional stability? Join us as we uncover the cosmic influences at play. Taylor sets the stage by highlighting the profound astrological significance of the summer solstice coinciding with this powerful full moon, urging us to shed superficial layers and seek deeper, more authentic connections. Patti shares her whirlwind experiences with love, adding a personal touch that contrasts perfectly with the hilarious Capricorn meme we dissect. Anoki brings us a moment of levity by unveiling her new home and her plans to create her dream living space.
Safety and stability take center stage as we explore their foundational role in romantic relationships, particularly for women. We emphasize the importance of emotional and physical security, which often surpasses financial concerns. As we navigate the turbulent astrological waters, envision a summer that strips away the inessential, similar to a collective Dark Night of the Soul. The discovery of a four-leaf clover brings a touch of good luck and lightness to our discussion, while Anoki's home tour adds a cozy, personal element to the conversation.
In a heartwarming twist, we delve into the transformative power of giving and positive thinking. You'll hear a touching story about how one act of kindness can lead to unexpected rewards, illustrating the cyclical nature of goodwill. Reflecting on the evolving concept of value with age, we discuss non-physical ways to contribute meaningfully to others' lives. Inspired by Jamie Sams' "Medicine Cards," we wrap up by channeling the wisdom of the Fox, exploring how its traits of adaptability and keen observation can guide us through life's complexities and help us protect our loved ones. Tune in for a rich tapestry of stories, insights, and cosmic guidance that will leave you inspired and enlightened.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
we are live and thank you for joining us.
If you're joining us live.
I'm patty, with patty talks toomuch, and I'm here with my dear
friends anoki and uh, taylorand um.
We were just, uh, taylor, wewere just uh.
Anoki and I were just talkingabout um, just, and I was just
talking about about the week andhow we all feel a little
discombobulated this week.
(00:30):
And is it the moon?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Everybody's a little bit cranky, I noticed for this
full moon.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, I guess Capricorn, a Capricorn moon
would be a bit more stern, a bitmore.
It's not as lighthearted.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Because I watched that one Capricorn meme and I
sent it to you this week.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I laughed so hard I played it over and, over and
over.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I watched the whole thing too, and it was like
really long, I don't know if youmade it to the end of it, patty
, but it was.
It was awesome.
But because, of that one.
Now, I think facebook thinksI'm like capricorn, because
they're just because they'rejust sending you all these and I
was laughing at first, but Iwas like this is.
I don't want patty to think I'mpicking on her it was.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was just a funny um taylor.
It was just like this funnytiktok meme it said it's like
capricorns in love.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And it was this little boy and he had his swimmy
floats on and they were at alittle lake dock and he, uh,
he's there with his mom and hisbrother right, and it says
capricorns falling in love.
And the little boy would run upto the edge and then stop and
like freeze and he's like Ican't, no, no, again they turn
(01:54):
around and he go back.
And then his brother came overand he's like it's alright, just
close your eyes and just thinkof nothing, and jump in.
And he closed his eyes and youthink of nothing and he'd be
like all right, here I go, hereI go, and he'd go to jump, and
then nothing and he couldn't.
And then finally he gets,finally like I mean, it's like a
minute and 30 seconds long,which is pretty long for like a
(02:16):
little meme video.
You know, all right, but but itwas worth every second.
Finally he gets over there andhe goes to go and there's like
three more.
You know I can't I can't youknow.
And then, and then all of asudden he goes to go and the
look of sheer terror when thosekids hit the water.
All right, he hit the water andthen he almost like, raised
(02:40):
himself up out, like, like, likewhen you're, when you're used
to water and you can jump in andout of the pool really quick,
you know, or like you could fallin and maybe not get completely
wet, you know, like, like.
There's a point in your life inflorida where you get to that.
But this kid did that.
He did the like and like,raised himself up out of the
(03:02):
water with this like, sheer lookof like what am I done?
Get me out of this shit.
I died.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's Capricorn falling in love, definitely.
So I have to tell you, thoughthat's not.
That hasn't been my experience,so I don't mean to cut you off,
taylor, but that hasn't been,not, that hasn't been my
experience, so I don't mean tocut you off, killer, but that
hasn't been, that hasn't been myexperience falling in love.
I I have a tendency to.
Um I I have in the past anyway,um, I've fallen in love hard
(03:39):
and fast yeah, and and and umwhat?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
that's what she said what did she say what did you
say that's gay, we're gay,that's so gay, that's just so
gay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, it's just you know.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And and usually with like you know, like my, my
choices were questionable lifeis so uncomfortable, you know,
and then when you find somebodyand you can find that comfort,
you don't want to leave thatcomfort so immediately you're
just like yeah, you know to itand that's why that happens, you
know I was very much into.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You know, love is magical and and all and and all
of that, like I believe that.
But I was kind of a magicalthinker anyway, like it was just
kind of my head in the clouds alot.
I don't know that is notcapricorn at all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't think yeah, yeah, yeah, you know always
writing like writing the storyin my head right and and
sometimes reading is the mostamazing thing, and then
sometimes it it's it's sabotaged, it sure is sometimes delulu is
the solulu, so I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I just want to spit this out about this full moon,
because it's really intense andcapricorn belongs with love in a
sense, but it's more of atruthful love.
It's more of a show me yourdirties and we'll go from there
type love.
Yeah, so the summer solsticefalls on a Capricorn full moon,
(05:17):
at the first node squaringNeptune.
It's the node of fate.
Okay, essentially, what's donein the dark is brought to the
light.
The next three full moons aregoing to be ruled by Saturn,
which means that this summer isall about are you guys ready for
this?
Purging the artificial and theinstability in our lives.
(05:41):
Um, and ghetto terms.
You ain't got a pocket watchbecause people will always tell
on themselves right, full moon.
And capricorn says raise yourprices so you align with the
people that truly value you.
Energy is currency.
Be mindful of who you want tospend it on.
(06:02):
Full moon and Capricorn alsolanded on Friday, which was
Venus day, which says trueromance, and this is what I
meant when I said what I said.
And Patty, tell me if thisfeels Capricorn, ask to you.
Okay, full moon, and inCapricorn it's true romance, but
(06:29):
it's romance that comes fromsecurity and stability.
Does that sit well with you?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Security and stability.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Romance Romance.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You being able to feel romance in a sense that is
sturdy and stable.
I I honestly, I think that Iwould.
I would sum it up in um, in theword trust.
Um, if you meet someone and youdeeply feel like this is, I
think trust is so central, um,that if you meet someone and I
guess I'm just speaking formyself but like, if you meet
(07:08):
someone, it's like this issomeone and this is not how I
operated when I was younger, um,but you know, hindsight is 2020
.
But like, if you know you meetsomebody who you feel that you
can trust fully, you know, withyour emotions, with all of them,
what did you call it?
Your dirty, your dirty things,your your, your dirty laundry,
(07:29):
your, your, you know yourshadows, all of that stuff.
You feel like this is somebodythat I can trust.
With all of that, then I thinkthat there's a sense of being
able to open up your heartwidely and make yourself
available for wild romance.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let it go, let it, you know just be totally
yourself and others yeah, yeah,take that risk jump off that
pier, as anoki was saying thatjump jump jump off, jump off the
pier I would jump.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think that feeling safe is really relevant to.
It's like super relevant to youknow being able to love.
You know, because love is acomfort thing, you know you're,
you're supposed to feelcomfortable and if you feel safe
, you feel comfortable if youdon't feel comfortable now.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think that this is true generally for women.
You know, whether, no, you, nomatter what sexuality you are,
but, like I think, women do needto feel safe within their
relationships, emotionally,physically.
We need to kind of feel thatkind of security and a lot of
times that does include well, Ineed, I need a partner who's
(08:40):
financially secure.
I need a partner who is.
You know all of that that thatmight include.
Well, I need, I need a partnerwho's financially secure.
I need a partner who is.
You know all of that, that thatmight include that, but, but but
sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes it just is like look,we can, we can live in the
woods, you know, in a tree.
I know that I trust this personwith my heart, with my emotions
(09:03):
, with, with, with, witheverything, with my, my total
being that I will live anywherewith them, and it doesn't matter
if they have money or theydon't.
Now, not everybody's like that.
I tend to be like that becausewe can get through it together
exactly exactly because, becausetrue riches are found not in
(09:25):
things, no Right.
I think what you were saying,taylor, about this summer and
the dynamics of this summer,that is part of it is really
sloughing off and sloughing awaythe things that are artificial
(09:46):
and and you know, and a lot ofyou know, I've been hearing that
this summer is going to be kindof rough, I mean, you know,
particularly for america,because there are a lot of
dynamics that are just lining upto be kind of like a holy shit
summer and yeah, but I thinkthat my son 17,.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The idea of a draft is absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, it's, it's not so right and but you know and
and what for but?
But like, I also think, likeyou know, we've been talking
about Dark Night of the Soul,near death experience, all of
that, and sometimes you come outon the other end and you have,
you know, you've kind of burnedaway all the things that don't
(10:27):
really matter and and I thinkthat this might be a summer for
our collective, you know, to gothrough something like that
where we literally chip awayeverything that really is not
that.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I wonder if this is going to be.
I wonder if it's going to belike Mercury in retrograde for
me, like, how like you know, theworld kind of seems to fall
apart around me during Mercuryin retrograde.
You're cool, I'm feeling prettygood, because you know what
happened to me.
I don't know if I told you guys, but look what I found last
(11:04):
week A four leaf.
Oh, I look what I found lastweek A four-leaf clover.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh, I'm so glad you saved it.
I got to see it and it's aproper clover Hello.
What are you going to do withit?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's my phone case I carry it with me everywhere I
go.
That's awesome and I wassitting there and I was just
sitting cross-legged on theground and I looked down and I'm
like that's a weird-looking ohmy God.
It's a four-leaf clover, oh myGod.
And then I got the building outhere.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, so I know we've been, you know, and so we
talked about this last weekbecause, and okie wasn't able to
be with us last week because,um, she was having her, um, her
home kit delivered and it wasalso her son's birthday, which
taylor and I had a lot of funwith that.
That was like the perfect thing, um.
(12:00):
So this week now, anoki, wewant to hear all about your, um,
your house adventure.
Just be somewhere where thesignal is good, because when you
stand in certain places, it'slike it goes in and out and your
voice becomes a robot you'regood though you're good, you're
good for the moment, but yeah,so are we going to get a tour?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
oh, yeah, well, um so .
So coming off the back drive,this is going to be a little
yard like sitting patio spaceyou know.
And then out of the back doorwe've got the mountain here,
which is really nice, and a nicelong drive up.
(12:42):
You know, know nothing reallythat way.
Then you come inside this isgonna be master studio office
over here.
This room is like 10 by 16,yeah, and then like seating area
(13:06):
in the living room and thenhold on.
I have to line this out realquick it looks.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It looks so big it is really big.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So this is from the front door.
Over here for the front door.
I don, this is for the frontdoor I'm going to have a big
deck out here, nice big deckthat's overlooking everything
out here, and then you come in.
There's the back door, there'sthe little seating living area
(13:45):
space.
And then I'll have the kitchenright in here and I'm gonna have
a little island bar that comesdown and kind of curves right
you know, walking into a hardcorner, you know, um, and it'll
be like a little u-shapedkitchen there, and then night is
(14:09):
school room room will be thisroom and it is 11 by 8, I
believe.
Wow, and then this will be thebathroom.
Leave, wow, and this will bethe bathroom.
(14:30):
This is gonna be a long way outbefore it's all done, you know.
But the ceilings are prettynice, they're not.
Uh, it's not a lofted buildingor anything like that.
Um, so it's, it's just aregular pitch utility roof.
But I kind of like that becausethere's less angles, less
things to go wrong.
(14:51):
And we went and looked at acouple of them and Nidus said he
didn't want to be up there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He didn't want to go up into the loft, our attic,
because it's an A-frame at thetop part of the house.
I have a, if you look up tophere, enoki, so that's a room.
But, then the roof also pitchesthe other way.
And in that area, behindPeyton's room, I could literally
(15:24):
build a ladder up and a loftout in the attic Like there's
room.
There's all this empty space inthis house Like there are
closets without like, whereeverything pitches all the way
to the floor, where I could makelike little cubby rooms for
each kid and a loft area up toptop.
(15:45):
But I just don't know if we'llbe here long enough to do all of
that.
There's a really bad shootinglast night, a block away oh my
gosh tell you the fbi in thecorner and it was.
It was crazy.
And it was crazy.
Oh, I got home at three o'clockand it was still going on um
(16:07):
three o'clock this morning.
So they had like forensics,they're doing trajectories on
the bullets and and it lookslike a shooting happened on the
porch and pat just looked at meand was like I don't know how
much longer we're gonna be ableto do this and I was like man,
we lived in the south side.
What's wrong like isn't thisgiving you like home vibes?
No, not so much.
(16:28):
You know, we just don't like.
We're the military, we out hereon carts I live there yeah yeah
, I think that's really.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, that's really unfortunate.
And this is one of those thingsyou know, like going into the
summer, um you know like peopleare talking about it's like a
lot of people are concerned umthat they're.
You know, if there areshortages.
You know, um, if, if we havethe situations like that where
there are food shortages andstuff, are people going to be?
(17:00):
You know, people kind of kindof lose their shit, people be
robbing each other.
You know home invasions andthings like that give me your
food dude.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They put the movie purge out.
Like people are alreadyreactive to certain sounds.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know what I mean yeah, it's like and I think,
like some of those shows likeare um, what they call
predictive programming.
It's almost like setting us upto kind of expect, setting the
scene and, for you know, settingit up for us to expect things
like that.
But I actually think it couldgo many different ways.
Like a crisis like that, likefood shortages don't have to to
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end up and food riots.
It could be an opportunity forpeople to really come together.
Now.
The three of us lived inFlorida and we know what that
looks like during a hurricane,when everybody's lost their
electricity, like in.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Florida.
You don't have a choice.
We discussed this a coupleweeks ago In Florida.
You know that.
You have to make it, you haveto survive.
It is a fight.
It is more of a struggle to getresources, period, no matter if
it's fucking medical or if it'sgas after a hurricane.
These are things that we havebeen acclimated to learning in
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south florida especially but wedon't have riots over it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, you're right in time, like when?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
everybody's gotta get together.
Everybody really comes together.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now, would you say, though what makes a difference
is a sense of community, like ifyou have a sense of community,
if you have a sense of yourneighbors and things like that
already, if that already exists,then when crisis happens, then
people come together even more.
Hey, did you check on misssmith down the street?
you know the old lady down thestreet or whatever it's like,
let's bring someone, becausethey're yeah, because they're in
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a wheelchair or like whatever.
It is like I I always and Idon't know.
I mean there might be somepeople who say, patty, you're
just being naive, but like Ihonestly lean towards that when
there are crises like this thatyou know, people like to talk
negatively about human nature.
But I actually think humannature is about let's, let's
(19:14):
figure out how we can.
Um work cooperatively getthrough it together get through
it together.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It reminds me of a story, um, that always touched
me, and it was this family hadalways asked for things.
You know, knock on the door,can I?
You have some bread?
You have some milk?
Can you spare this?
What have you?
And the mom, uh, one day lookedat the son and said I want you
to go next door and I want youto ask for a cup of sugar.
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And the son said, mom, but wehave sugar.
And she's like, I know we do,but I want the neighbors to know
that we need things.
You know, like, yeah, it's niceto be able to give too, right,
and if the neighbors are alwaysneeding from us, I want them to
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think and feel like they're nota burden.
So go ask them for a cup ofsugar and I thought that that
was the most beautiful like here, if one snowflake falls, every
fucking gallon of milk and loafof bread has gone off the
shelves.
Yeah, but but in East Tennesseeyou can ask anybody for a cup
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of sugar or some meal andthey'll give it to you without
hesitation.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think that there is something to giving people the
opportunity to be giving.
Remember how we tell.
We see this in relationships,you know, like if you're always
the giver, the giver, the giver,the giver, those of us who have
a hard time asking for help orasking for things and what we do
is we deprive people in ourlives who care about us the
(20:53):
opportunity to give to us,because there's something that
feels so good when you do that.
And so I think about that storyand think about how I don't
know if they included this partof the story, but how that
family must have felt.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I feel like that.
A lot, a lot of people helpedme and I would love to help them
in any way that I could helpthem.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We naturally want to reciprocate.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Anoki, is it harder for you to receive because you
are such a giver?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I have this conversation with people all the
time well, no, that's what I'msaying, like, like I'm a giver
but a lot of people have giventhings to me.
I can't give them the samethings back.
I wish, you know, I wish that Icould give them anything, just
to give them something back orhelp them when they need help.
(21:50):
You know, when you can, youknow, get through something
together with people, you feelgood at the end of the day.
If it's just you getting stuffyou know from someone, then you
feel bad.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's really hard for me to accept and not reciprocate
yeah yeah, I'm big.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did you feel bad after a little?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
bit.
Yeah okay, but I had to learnthat it's not always about that
equal reciprocity.
When it comes to you acceptingother people's gifts, that's
their blessing, and if you don'taccept it, or you accept it
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with guilt in your heart, you'reblocking that blessing.
I was having a conversationwith my coworker last night.
Just the word.
I can never.
And I said stop, we'remanifesting with our mouth and
we are not going to negativetalk.
I said that tip will come backto you, I promise you.
(22:57):
As I am giving her this advice,this guy walks through the door
and I realized he's from a tablethat I had days ago.
I mean, like on Monday, Iwaited on this man and his
family and they didn't haveenough money and he was a server
and he said I'll be back andtheir daughter made a huge mess
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at the table.
I do not care.
I looked at them and I saidplease enjoy your meal
guilt-free and let me clean upthis baby's mess.
Y'all just enjoy your mealtogether.
You guys don't get to go out alot.
Enjoy yourselves, et cetera,and don't worry about the tip.
Like I've been there, I knowwhat it's like to be young with
a kid.
Like, please, y'all just goenjoy your night, don't even
worry about it.
Please don't come back and giveme a tip.
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That man walked in as I wastelling my coworker trust it,
trust the universe.
The money will always come toyou, the gifts, the blessings,
they'll always come back to you.
You have to trust it Right?
This man walked in the door andsaid I'm here to tip you from
the other night and handed me a20 spot and was like thank you,
(24:03):
have a good night and walk backout the door.
And Simone's jaw was just yeah.
And I looked at the guy and Isaid, I put my arm around him.
I said you see, simone, you see,look I told you and I looked at
the guy and I said I put my armaround him.
I said you see, simone, you see, look.
I told you and he's like, yeah,I'm real big on those blessings
coming back and I said, yes,that's exactly the level.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, you know he probably just got paid, you know
.
So Monday he didn't have awhole lot of money.
He was a server they have losttheir card.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
No-transcript.
You got to accept that blessingyeah and so that's now.
Is he struggling?
Did he need that 20 dollars?
I'm sure he did, but he has thesame belief system I do and he
knows that money is going tocome back to him because he's
not blessed.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, I was thinking in our conversation, as as you
guys were talking, that itreally comes down to.
I mean, well, one aspect that Ikept thinking about as we were
talking about all this is valueand how we value ourselves and
what is value and what do.
What a value do I have to give?
And you know, this is somethingthat, as I get older, I think
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about because, like um Inoki'sInoki's building out her house
and there's all of these thingsgoing on, but the things that I
used to be able to do for people, I'm not physically able to do
anymore, and so so I often think, I often think, then, what is
what is a value?
Do I have to give?
(25:57):
Like I really do, I think Iwant to give things that are of
value to others.
But I used to be being aCapricorn, I used to be I do.
This is what I do, I'm going to, I'm going to make this, I'm
going to do this, I'm going todo this, I'm going to construct
this, I'm going to clean this,I'm going to and it was often so
manual.
(26:18):
It was like, yeah, manual, likeall these things that I could
do manually, but I I honestlylike it's been such a lesson and
I am trying to live in to thislesson of having like two kinds
of arthritis in my hand whichnow keep me from doing like if I
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was in a position to do so manyof the things that I used to do
for people, I wouldn't be ableto, so okay, and I are sitting
in our head thinking about allthe ways you help people that
aren't physical and that havehelped us that aren't physical.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, exactly exactly what you're saying, like like I
.
My help was always very manualhelp.
And like recently, I've feltlike you know I I had gained a
lot of weight.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I was looking at me in Easter and I was
looking at me.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In eastern I was looking at me you know now and
it's like crazy difference, youknow.
But I want to be there and behelpful and be active with
people and be the person I'vealways been, but physically I
felt incapable of doing that,you know, and I was soly.
(27:34):
And now that I'm getting betterand stuff, you know, like, like
I'm hoping that I'll be able todo things.
You know, because, yeah, I makethings and I do things for
people and I I help, you know,in that way.
You know that, like I I don'twant to not be able to do that
for the world, because part ofthat is like my light and joy of
(27:57):
being, yeah, and yeah, in theworld, both of you just existing
is already a blessing, becauseI'm also a physical helper.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Right, what can I help you?
I do need help moving, like, ohyou, you need me to put an
apron on and come in the kitchen.
Yeah, yeah, you're a doer.
Yes, yes, you are right.
Right, you need to work on yourvan.
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna giveyou give me the same way yeah,
whatever, same way I learned atsaint jude, all of these other
ways that I could help and theways that people helped me were
(28:32):
out of the box ways and creativeand thoughtful ways.
That's also super touching.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So, like I could I just think about like
non-physical I could walk intoPatty's cafe.
It makes me want to cry.
I could walk to Patty's Cafeand know that there would be a
perfect cup of coffee, just howI take it, and Inoki would be on
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the back porch bench with Zoeand I could go sit with a heavy,
sad soul and Inoki and I couldsing songs while she played
guitar and we could eat mangoestogether and laugh.
Those people that fill you upright, those are the givers.
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That is where I feel the mosttouched by giving.
You guys didn't even realizeyou were doing it no, I mean a
lot.
Well, you know, we've talkedabout this but those days
touched my soul and saved mefrom a very dark place just real
unconditional, like love, likewe, just like set out back and
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and exchange thoughts and ourhearts.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
It was just all around beautiful.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Everything.
Yes, there was a lot ofphysical, but there was so much
giving Patti, that you didduring that time period that you
don't even fucking know about.
Same with teaching you give somuch to the world that is
non-physical yeah and you don'talways see the results of it.
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But the lives that you havetouched same with the nokie, the
lives that you have touchedthrough your music, through
through just being you.
It would absolutely shock youto know the way that you've
touched people's lives.
They were like passerbyers inyour life.
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But you changed their entirelife by giving them a moment of
your time it got.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's very true.
People come up to you andthey're like you, you know you
just said something.
Yeah, made me think ofeverything different.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah.
I think that's something thatthe three of us have in common.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
For sure.
I got a Facebook message fromsomebody from high school.
From somebody from high schoolshe said I just want you to know
that the advice that you gaveme not only changed my life but
it stuck with me forever and Iwill never forget what you did
for me and how you helped me.
And you forget about thosepeople.
(31:28):
I mean I forgot about her, butlike I mean not that I forgot
about her, but like it wasreally jaw dropping and awe
inspiring to receive thatmessage and think, wow, I
impacted that person that muchthat it changed their life.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
What a blessing for me to even just being a genuine
you know, genuine human, aconduit of, you know, a light in
a dark spot.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Here's a thought that I have about that.
You know, you say a light in adark spot, a no key, and the
thing is it's like you can lookat your life, you can look at
your earlier life and, taylor,you can look at your earlier
life, your life, you can look atyour earlier life and, taylor,
you can look at your earlierlife and I can look at my
earlier life and you know, it'sjust kind of the dark spot we
were.
I mean we were.
We were in many ways um kind ofbroken when we were young and
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had to come into.
I just saw this movie and themovie itself is kind of corny,
but the title of the movie.
The only reason why I watchedthe movie was because of the
title and I thought, oh my god,that's, that's beautiful, I want
to watch this movie, and it was.
It was an okay movie.
It was kind of a tear jerker,whatever.
But the movie was called uh,more, more beautiful for having
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been broken and I thought I, Ilike that title, so I'm gonna
watch that movie.
So, um, the movie almost livedup to the title, but not quite.
Um, but I've been around peoplewho never really had bad things
happen to them, they, they, theyhad like a good childhood and
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nice relationships, like youknow, like nothing ever and and
I I don't want to be critical,but it's like there's a certain
kind of um absence of depth whenyou haven't yourself been
broken, when my brother took meto the place that she grew up in
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this coastal Michigan town, Icried.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I cried because it looked like every family focus
on the family film I'd ever seenin my life.
You know everything that I hadseen, you know, shooken into me.
You know that I just couldnever obtain it was so beautiful
(34:01):
to know that, that, and don'tget me wrong, she did have, you
know, really hard childhoodbecause she lost her mom young
you know, childhood because shelost her mom.
Young, you know, but up untilthat point.
Like I mean, there's a memorialplaque on the football field
for her mom.
It was such a small beautifultown, as broken and as scorned
(34:27):
as I always was, you know, likeI wanted a life that was like a
focus on the family yeah, Idon't, I don't know if you guys
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I do know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I was homeschooled and I watched the buttercream
gang and loved it.
I read all the boxcar children.
You know that was like a drama,you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean but I didn't have that life yeah, I think
that that three of us, in ourown way, experienced like this
basic longing for this um, it'sperfect, loving family without
trauma, you know, without pain,you know just, you know where we
felt like we completelybelonged.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So I tried to, for, coming from a traumatized home
and a broken home, raisechildren who were not
traumatized.
However, life happens and theywere put in a position where
they saw things I wish theydidn't see and they understood
death my older sons at eight and10 years old in a way that they
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watched their peers die andsome things you can't protect
people from.
Yeah, so you can make thelittle family and and you can
have every opportunity to givethem a soft life, but we're here
for lessons and the universe.
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Without trauma, we have nothingright.
I mean like trauma it reallybuilds character is what I mean.
It's what I mean when I saythat and everybody has it
there's no perfect parent andlife isn't perfect, so things
happen.
But the unity of it all reallygives you this opportunity to
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make that a lesson too.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I want to focus on the beautiful things in life and
not focus on, you know,everything that I don't.
I don't have.
I want to be thankful for thegreat experiences I get to have,
because there's so many greatexperiences.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You know the whole thing about how we're drawn to
the bad or whatever.
As an English teacher, I'vereally struggled in the
classroom with this whole focuson dystopian novels like the
post-apocalyptic novels andeverything that we have our kids
reading.
You know all these years andeverything and you know I've
(36:59):
thought about that a lot and Ienjoy the novels myself, but
still it's kind of like wow,that's a focus on just this.
You know, when you look at themovies and everything in our
culture, I like your new storyand how your new story.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know that you're.
They're all in chaos and and,and I guess those characters Go
out here, you know.
Yeah.
Smell in the air and smell inthe back.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That that's my.
That's my new.
I'm in love.
My, that's my new projectactually is to have to write
love stories, and to write lovestories in a book that will
actually that story will be theanchor story, but it's after the
moon fell away, because themoon is actually as much as we
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might be enamored, and we talkedabout the moon, the Capricorn
moon and all this, and with thefull moon or whatever, it may be
completely artificial and itmight be part of, or the nexus
for, this system, or you knowthat that we live under that we
call the matrix on earth, and so, rather than writing post
apocalyptic stories, I want towrite stories about finding love
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, love stories that take placein a world that is finally free
from all of the things that haveenslaved us and so like humans,
who are free again and who cantap into who we really are and
what our nature really is.
That's why the sun is soimportant in this world and not
the moon, like the moon couldfall away and that was okay, but
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then there are other thingsthat fall away, and so that
people meet each other and fallin love under circumstances that
are that are that seemimpossible, but perhaps there's
a story about how fairies bringtwo people together, or there's
a story about you know all likethis world that we, you know
know, can, can imagine free ifit's free from all of the things
(38:55):
that have constrained us.
And so those are the storiesthat I want to imagine, and I
want all of the stories in thiscollection to be love stories,
but love stories in a world thatis post post matrix and so it
begins with so it begins withthe moon falling away, because
maybe the moon is part of it,but at any rate, that's.
(39:17):
That's kind of my, my newwriting.
I'm liking the direction, youlike the direction I'm going.
I like the direction you'regoing I love it.
I, I kind of want to write aboutthese wonderful, uh,
imaginative life uh stories thattake that are about people
coming together in natural butamazing ways or like impossible
(39:41):
ways, but are now possiblebecause we are more free to be
the full humans that we werealways meant to be.
So, at any rate, that's kind of.
Those are my, those are mythoughts, but I just wanted to
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yeah, I like it, oh, I soappreciate that you guys.
What's the inspiration, what isthe instruction of the
inspiration for us movingforward into the next week or
weeks ahead, as we move intowhat will probably be a very hot
(40:27):
summer.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, in many ways the world is getting hot.
Yeah, in many ways the world isgetting hot.
Um.
So today I pulled um.
This is this is who I found andwho jumped out to me today.
Um, patty and I and I'm surenokia too we, um, this is one of
our favorite authors.
(40:48):
I think I speak for both of uswhen I say that um, if you all
have never heard of Jamie Sands,you should highly consider
reading one of her books.
So we're reading from this decktoday, patty, this is actually
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your book from the shopBeautiful.
So we'll be reading MedicineCards by Jamie Sams.
These cards are super, superin-depth and a story usually
goes along with them as far asthe application goes.
So it'll be a whole lesson herein these.
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So I'm going to go ahead andchoose a card coming out of
solstice and this Capricorn fullmoon and what messages the
universe has to allow.
We pulled the fox.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
The little fox.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
And so we shall read him.
And the fox.
I always love thinking aboutwhat I believe the medicine to
be prior to and for me?
For me, a fox is like they havethis ability to hide in plain
sight and be super observant ina room full of people and just
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kind of like slide through theethers and not be seen, but but
taking it all in the fullspectrum of a situation.
So this is what Jamie Sams hasto say about Fox.
Fox, where are you Under theferns, becoming the forest so
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that I can learn?
Are you watching, invisible tome, trying to teach me to become
a tree?
So Wiley Fox has many allies inthe woodlands, including the
foliage, which offers protectionand much medicine.
Fox signifies camouflage.
The flora is Fox's ally.
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The ability to meld into one'ssurroundings and be unnoticed is
a powerful gift when observingthe activities of others.
Another natural gift of fox isto adapt.
Like a chameleon, they changecolors to adapt to winter.
Its rich white coat allows foxto blend into the snow and the
leaves no longer linger.
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Fox medicine involvesadaptability, cunning,
observation, integration andswiftness of thought and action.
These traits also include quickdecisiveness and
sure-footedness in the physicalworld.
So fox's ability to be unseenallows them to be the protector
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in a family unit.
When danger arises, fox isJohnny on the spot.
Nanhi Waya, great Spirit in theChoctaw Tongue, honors Fox with
the duty of keeping the familytogether and safe.
This is accomplished throughFox's ability to observe the
undetected without making othersself-conscious.
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Fox is always concerned withthe safety of family members and
is an excellent talisman forthose traveling.
If Fox has chosen to share itsmedicine today, it is a sign
that we are to become like thewind, which is unseen the wind
just started blowing so hardwhich is unseen, yet able to
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weave into and through anylocation or situation.
You would be wise to observethe acts of others and their
words at this time.
Use your cunning nature in apositive way.
Keep silent about who and whatand why you are observing.
In learning the art ofcamouflage, you need to test
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your abilities in order to pullthis off.
One test is to help youdeciding to be invisible.
You might try to visualize yourbody as part of the
surroundings full of color andthe location that you are.
See yourself in your mind's eye, moving with stealth and grace,
unheeded by others.
If you do it right, it works.
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You can leave a party unnoticedor become an unobstructed piece
of furniture.
If you choose watching thedeveloping drama of the subjects
you are studying While learningfrom thoughts, you might also
gain confidence in your abilityto know instantly what will
happen next.
After observing for a while,you will become aware of certain
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predictabilities in any givensituation and might be able to
make your move.
Fox Medicine teaches the art ofoneness through understanding of
camouflage.
Fox medicine teaches the art ofoneness through understanding
of camouflage.
This applies on all levels,from rocks to God.
With fox medicine, you're beingasked to see all types of uses
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for your oneness.
Much like clowns at the rodeo,fox can keep the raging bull
from stampeding a friend orfamily member.
Fox can use silly tactics as abrilliant camouflage move.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
No one could guess the sly power behind such an
ingenious maneuver.
I think the fox sounds like aCapricorn, because he's quiet
and watching your surroundingslike not that you would ever.
You know, sit on the stump inthe forest quietly waiting for
deer to come, waiting to meltinto nature that's about what
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I'm going to do in a few minutesnot that you like watching and
observing the world around youquietly, young, european too.
A few.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, no, that's that's true.
That's true.
I was thinking like such acentral um idea in what you were
reading taylor has to do withbeing an observer.
Yeah, kind of sitting back, andit's you know, and it isn't-.
Non-reactive, non- reactive,it's not emotional.
(47:03):
It's being this observer andkind of blending in and
observing everything so that youcan better protect the people
in your lives, you can betterpredict what might be happening
next.
If things are going to bepretty chaotic and unpredictable
, how much will we need that Foxmedicine to become better
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observers?
You know where you're sittingback and you're not really
calling attention to yourself,you're kind of blending in with
the background and and you'resitting back and it and it isn't
emotional, it's not reactive,so that we can make better
choices, you know.
So you know how you were sayingEnoki, you know, like sitting
in the midst of chaos, beingable to do that we might find
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ourselves.
You know, this might be a verychaotic summer.
There might just be, um,increasingly more, more things
that are kind of playing at us,and so that whole observer
position I think is is reallyvaluable yeah, those are my
thoughts.
Those are my thoughts on it.
What do you think, taylor?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
um, well, I immediately could apply it to my
personal life.
Immediately, I thought, well,it's a really good lesson.
I am a reactive and emotiveperson.
However, there is still.
I do believe Fox is one of mynine totems.
If I was going to include umtotem, I definitely, uh,
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consider myself to be close tofox.
I definitely have the ability tovibe with that, with that that
lesson so I think that, um, it'sinteresting to look at fox and
in the family dynamic way,because they are very much the
same.
You know.
Think about like and betweenwolf and raccoon you've got fox
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and family is still so veryimportant during certain seasons
.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
The fox is very family oriented they den up yeah
, but for a good portion of theyear foxes in solitude yeah,
there's, they're solitarywandering it's to establish its
territories and and parts andthey're kind of the best of both
worlds you know when it comesto that and like like all the
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way around, like a fox is reallyagile, very fast very fast
blends.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Can I?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
can I?
Can I interject as an English?
An English teacher.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
All right.
So you know how I was talkingabout, like how I'm not like.
You know, dystopian novels.
You know I think they're kindof overplayed a lot, but you
know we have them in our schools, that they're they're part of
every English department in inhigh schools and so we've, we've
read the Hunger Games and ofcourse I've seen the Hunger
Games and whatever you know, we,you know the Hunger Games are
like this dystopian, postapocalyptic, whatever.
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Now, in the Hunger Games thereis a character called Foxface
and she is a character who'svery much like a Fox.
And in the hunger games, youknow the this is horrible
situation where all these youngpeople are, they've got to kill,
kill each other and see wholasts.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
And they're like I don't know there's, like you
know there are.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
There are a lot of them.
They're what are there?
13, 12, I think, 12.
No, they're 24.
And so they're, all you know,kind of fighting each other,
killing each other and whatever.
Fox face doesn't want to killanyone.
She doesn't.
She doesn't want to kill.
So she is not somebody whokills.
But what she does is she isamazing at hiding, at observe,
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hiding in places where she canobserve others getting getting
food, you know, like where youknow observing and finding out
where she can get food.
And she is one of the last.
Of course she, she does end updying, but she lasts all the way
to the end.
She lasts longer than some ofthe more aggressive, heavy,
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heavily weaponized you knowpeople in, you know, you know
competitors in the Hunger Games.
She lasts almost to the very,very end and in the only reason
why she dies is because, um, shehas observed katniss, um and
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pita gathering berries.
Pita has mistakenly gatheredberries for them and because he
he's kind of an idiot in theforest he's gathered poisonous
berries and he's made this pileof berries and Katniss, of
course, returns and says my God,those are poisonous.
But Foxface has gotten to thebear, she's observed them, right
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, because she's one of the lastpeople to survive, and so are
they, and so she's observingthem.
And she sees the pile ofberries and she goes and she
steals some of the berries.
The pile of berries, and shegoes and she steals some of the
berries and unfortunately,that's how Foxface dies, because
she has mistakenly eatenpoisonous berries.
But this character of Foxfaceis so, and I find it really
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interesting, that she was one ofthe ones that lasted the
longest without killing a singleperson.
She did it because all throughthe power of observation and
being, like you said, anoki,very fast and agile and stealthy
you know, yeah, yeah, anyway, Ihad to throw, I had to throw
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that in.
I had to throw in a little, alittle hunger games.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I like that.
Yeah little, a little hungergames.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah, anything else, anyfinal words?
It made me think about um, as achild.
Um, I had, I had an adult in my, in my life teach us how to be
invisible.
I'm sorry, the practice of thatis absolutely fascinating, and
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more so when you see it actuallywork.
It is amazing, amazing.
The powers of invisibility isreal, um, and it can help you in
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your everyday life, oh, yeah.
So for me personally, it's notto be less emotive, but to be
more aware of my emotions and,uh, be more observant in
situations where usually I wouldbe more vocal.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
So shut up and just watch, yeah, because if you're
working on being invisible orcamouflaged in a situation, then
you really have to be silent,don't you?
Yeah?
Or neutral or camouflaged in asituation, then you really have
to be silent, don't you, yeah?
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Or neutral.
At least you know.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
You know, and I just want to say like one final
thought of it you know, as we'removing into, you know, there
was that whole situation in yourneighborhood, taylor, and we
see this in schools andeverything you know.
Something happens right.
There's a fight going on,there's some chaos going on.
There's there's a fight goingon, there's some chaos going on,
there's some loud noises andeverybody rushes in, everybody
rushes to to see the drama andwhat's going on, and they love
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it.
And this fox is calling us, uh,calling upon us to to not rush
in but to pull back from adistance and observe right, so
that we can better protectourselves and others, and so
forth.
And so I think, like if we aremoving into a time where there
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might be things popping offright, all kinds of stuff
popping up rather than movingcloser to where things are
popping off, fox asks us to pullback, to be quiet and observe
right and be camouflaged so thatwe can make wiser choices in
the chaos.
(55:23):
And so I just wanted to kind ofyou know, because I experienced
that as a teacher.
You know that fight goes, afight's happening and
everybody's rushing towards thefight with their cameras on and
everything.
That's just kind of what ourculture has come to.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
And yeah, an excitement instead of a worry or
a caution.
Yeah, so Fox.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Fox is like no, the move is back, Move is be, be
that, be that distant observerand you'll you'll make wiser
choices.
Let's see how it applies thisweek.
I, I love it.
And any final words, you guys,before we say goodbye Love you
guys.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Love you All right.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Fox.
Yes, yes, Love you guys.
It was awesome.
Have a great week everyone.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Happy weekend and have a great week.
Everyone happy weekend and havea good week and we'll see you
guys next saturday.
Love you, music.
we are live and thank you for joining us.
If you're joining us live.
I'm patty, with patty talks toomuch, and I'm here with my dear
friends anoki and uh, taylorand um.
We were just, uh, taylor, wewere just uh.
Anoki and I were just talkingabout um, just, and I was just
talking about about the week andhow we all feel a little
discombobulated this week.
(00:30):
And is it the moon?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Everybody's a little bit cranky, I noticed for this
full moon.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, I guess Capricorn, a Capricorn moon
would be a bit more stern, a bitmore.
It's not as lighthearted.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Because I watched that one Capricorn meme and I
sent it to you this week.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I laughed so hard I played it over and, over and
over.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I watched the whole thing too, and it was like
really long, I don't know if youmade it to the end of it, patty
, but it was.
It was awesome.
But because, of that one.
Now, I think facebook thinksI'm like capricorn, because
they're just because they'rejust sending you all these and I
was laughing at first, but Iwas like this is.
I don't want patty to think I'mpicking on her it was.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was just a funny um taylor.
It was just like this funnytiktok meme it said it's like
capricorns in love.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And it was this little boy and he had his swimmy
floats on and they were at alittle lake dock and he, uh,
he's there with his mom and hisbrother right, and it says
capricorns falling in love.
And the little boy would run upto the edge and then stop and
like freeze and he's like Ican't, no, no, again they turn
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around and he go back.
And then his brother came overand he's like it's alright, just
close your eyes and just thinkof nothing, and jump in.
And he closed his eyes and youthink of nothing and he'd be
like all right, here I go, hereI go, and he'd go to jump, and
then nothing and he couldn't.
And then finally he gets,finally like I mean, it's like a
minute and 30 seconds long,which is pretty long for like a
(02:16):
little meme video.
You know, all right, but but itwas worth every second.
Finally he gets over there andhe goes to go and there's like
three more.
You know I can't I can't youknow.
And then, and then all of asudden he goes to go and the
look of sheer terror when thosekids hit the water.
All right, he hit the water andthen he almost like, raised
(02:40):
himself up out, like, like, likewhen you're, when you're used
to water and you can jump in andout of the pool really quick,
you know, or like you could fallin and maybe not get completely
wet, you know, like, like.
There's a point in your life inflorida where you get to that.
But this kid did that.
He did the like and like,raised himself up out of the
(03:02):
water with this like, sheer lookof like what am I done?
Get me out of this shit.
I died.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's Capricorn falling in love, definitely.
So I have to tell you, thoughthat's not.
That hasn't been my experience,so I don't mean to cut you off,
taylor, but that hasn't been,not, that hasn't been my
experience, so I don't mean tocut you off, killer, but that
hasn't been, that hasn't been myexperience falling in love.
I I have a tendency to.
Um I I have in the past anyway,um, I've fallen in love hard
(03:39):
and fast yeah, and and and umwhat?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
that's what she said what did she say what did you
say that's gay, we're gay,that's so gay, that's just so
gay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, it's just you know.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And and usually with like you know, like my, my
choices were questionable lifeis so uncomfortable, you know,
and then when you find somebodyand you can find that comfort,
you don't want to leave thatcomfort so immediately you're
just like yeah, you know to itand that's why that happens, you
know I was very much into.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You know, love is magical and and all and and all
of that, like I believe that.
But I was kind of a magicalthinker anyway, like it was just
kind of my head in the clouds alot.
I don't know that is notcapricorn at all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't think yeah, yeah, yeah, you know always
writing like writing the storyin my head right and and
sometimes reading is the mostamazing thing, and then
sometimes it it's it's sabotaged, it sure is sometimes delulu is
the solulu, so I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I just want to spit this out about this full moon,
because it's really intense andcapricorn belongs with love in a
sense, but it's more of atruthful love.
It's more of a show me yourdirties and we'll go from there
type love.
Yeah, so the summer solsticefalls on a Capricorn full moon,
(05:17):
at the first node squaringNeptune.
It's the node of fate.
Okay, essentially, what's donein the dark is brought to the
light.
The next three full moons aregoing to be ruled by Saturn,
which means that this summer isall about are you guys ready for
this?
Purging the artificial and theinstability in our lives.
(05:41):
Um, and ghetto terms.
You ain't got a pocket watchbecause people will always tell
on themselves right, full moon.
And capricorn says raise yourprices so you align with the
people that truly value you.
Energy is currency.
Be mindful of who you want tospend it on.
(06:02):
Full moon and Capricorn alsolanded on Friday, which was
Venus day, which says trueromance, and this is what I
meant when I said what I said.
And Patty, tell me if thisfeels Capricorn, ask to you.
Okay, full moon, and inCapricorn it's true romance, but
(06:29):
it's romance that comes fromsecurity and stability.
Does that sit well with you?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Security and stability.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Romance Romance.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You being able to feel romance in a sense that is
sturdy and stable.
I I honestly, I think that Iwould.
I would sum it up in um, in theword trust.
Um, if you meet someone and youdeeply feel like this is, I
think trust is so central, um,that if you meet someone and I
guess I'm just speaking formyself but like, if you meet
(07:08):
someone, it's like this issomeone and this is not how I
operated when I was younger, um,but you know, hindsight is 2020
.
But like, if you know you meetsomebody who you feel that you
can trust fully, you know, withyour emotions, with all of them,
what did you call it?
Your dirty, your dirty things,your your, your dirty laundry,
(07:29):
your, your, you know yourshadows, all of that stuff.
You feel like this is somebodythat I can trust.
With all of that, then I thinkthat there's a sense of being
able to open up your heartwidely and make yourself
available for wild romance.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let it go, let it, you know just be totally
yourself and others yeah, yeah,take that risk jump off that
pier, as anoki was saying thatjump jump jump off, jump off the
pier I would jump.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think that feeling safe is really relevant to.
It's like super relevant to youknow being able to love.
You know, because love is acomfort thing, you know you're,
you're supposed to feelcomfortable and if you feel safe
, you feel comfortable if youdon't feel comfortable now.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think that this is true generally for women.
You know, whether, no, you, nomatter what sexuality you are,
but, like I think, women do needto feel safe within their
relationships, emotionally,physically.
We need to kind of feel thatkind of security and a lot of
times that does include well, Ineed, I need a partner who's
(08:40):
financially secure.
I need a partner who is.
You know all of that that thatmight include.
Well, I need, I need a partnerwho's financially secure.
I need a partner who is.
You know all of that, that thatmight include that, but, but but
sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes it just is like look,we can, we can live in the
woods, you know, in a tree.
I know that I trust this personwith my heart, with my emotions
(09:03):
, with, with, with, witheverything, with my, my total
being that I will live anywherewith them, and it doesn't matter
if they have money or theydon't.
Now, not everybody's like that.
I tend to be like that becausewe can get through it together
exactly exactly because, becausetrue riches are found not in
(09:25):
things, no Right.
I think what you were saying,taylor, about this summer and
the dynamics of this summer,that is part of it is really
sloughing off and sloughing awaythe things that are artificial
(09:46):
and and you know, and a lot ofyou know, I've been hearing that
this summer is going to be kindof rough, I mean, you know,
particularly for america,because there are a lot of
dynamics that are just lining upto be kind of like a holy shit
summer and yeah, but I thinkthat my son 17,.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The idea of a draft is absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, it's, it's not so right and but you know and
and what for but?
But like, I also think, likeyou know, we've been talking
about Dark Night of the Soul,near death experience, all of
that, and sometimes you come outon the other end and you have,
you know, you've kind of burnedaway all the things that don't
(10:27):
really matter and and I thinkthat this might be a summer for
our collective, you know, to gothrough something like that
where we literally chip awayeverything that really is not
that.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I wonder if this is going to be.
I wonder if it's going to belike Mercury in retrograde for
me, like, how like you know, theworld kind of seems to fall
apart around me during Mercuryin retrograde.
You're cool, I'm feeling prettygood, because you know what
happened to me.
I don't know if I told you guys, but look what I found last
(11:04):
week A four leaf.
Oh, I look what I found lastweek A four-leaf clover.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh, I'm so glad you saved it.
I got to see it and it's aproper clover Hello.
What are you going to do withit?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's my phone case I carry it with me everywhere I
go.
That's awesome and I wassitting there and I was just
sitting cross-legged on theground and I looked down and I'm
like that's a weird-looking ohmy God.
It's a four-leaf clover, oh myGod.
And then I got the building outhere.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, so I know we've been, you know, and so we
talked about this last weekbecause, and okie wasn't able to
be with us last week because,um, she was having her, um, her
home kit delivered and it wasalso her son's birthday, which
taylor and I had a lot of funwith that.
That was like the perfect thing, um.
(12:00):
So this week now, anoki, wewant to hear all about your, um,
your house adventure.
Just be somewhere where thesignal is good, because when you
stand in certain places, it'slike it goes in and out and your
voice becomes a robot you'regood though you're good, you're
good for the moment, but yeah,so are we going to get a tour?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
oh, yeah, well, um so .
So coming off the back drive,this is going to be a little
yard like sitting patio spaceyou know.
And then out of the back doorwe've got the mountain here,
which is really nice, and a nicelong drive up.
(12:42):
You know, know nothing reallythat way.
Then you come inside this isgonna be master studio office
over here.
This room is like 10 by 16,yeah, and then like seating area
(13:06):
in the living room and thenhold on.
I have to line this out realquick it looks.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It looks so big it is really big.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So this is from the front door.
Over here for the front door.
I don, this is for the frontdoor I'm going to have a big
deck out here, nice big deckthat's overlooking everything
out here, and then you come in.
There's the back door, there'sthe little seating living area
(13:45):
space.
And then I'll have the kitchenright in here and I'm gonna have
a little island bar that comesdown and kind of curves right
you know, walking into a hardcorner, you know, um, and it'll
be like a little u-shapedkitchen there, and then night is
(14:09):
school room room will be thisroom and it is 11 by 8, I
believe.
Wow, and then this will be thebathroom.
Leave, wow, and this will bethe bathroom.
(14:30):
This is gonna be a long way outbefore it's all done, you know.
But the ceilings are prettynice, they're not.
Uh, it's not a lofted buildingor anything like that.
Um, so it's, it's just aregular pitch utility roof.
But I kind of like that becausethere's less angles, less
things to go wrong.
(14:51):
And we went and looked at acouple of them and Nidus said he
didn't want to be up there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He didn't want to go up into the loft, our attic,
because it's an A-frame at thetop part of the house.
I have a, if you look up tophere, enoki, so that's a room.
But, then the roof also pitchesthe other way.
And in that area, behindPeyton's room, I could literally
(15:24):
build a ladder up and a loftout in the attic Like there's
room.
There's all this empty space inthis house Like there are
closets without like, whereeverything pitches all the way
to the floor, where I could makelike little cubby rooms for
each kid and a loft area up toptop.
(15:45):
But I just don't know if we'llbe here long enough to do all of
that.
There's a really bad shootinglast night, a block away oh my
gosh tell you the fbi in thecorner and it was.
It was crazy.
And it was crazy.
Oh, I got home at three o'clockand it was still going on um
(16:07):
three o'clock this morning.
So they had like forensics,they're doing trajectories on
the bullets and and it lookslike a shooting happened on the
porch and pat just looked at meand was like I don't know how
much longer we're gonna be ableto do this and I was like man,
we lived in the south side.
What's wrong like isn't thisgiving you like home vibes?
No, not so much.
(16:28):
You know, we just don't like.
We're the military, we out hereon carts I live there yeah yeah
, I think that's really.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, that's really unfortunate.
And this is one of those thingsyou know, like going into the
summer, um you know like peopleare talking about it's like a
lot of people are concerned umthat they're.
You know, if there areshortages.
You know, um, if, if we havethe situations like that where
there are food shortages andstuff, are people going to be?
(17:00):
You know, people kind of kindof lose their shit, people be
robbing each other.
You know home invasions andthings like that give me your
food dude.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They put the movie purge out.
Like people are alreadyreactive to certain sounds.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know what I mean yeah, it's like and I think,
like some of those shows likeare um, what they call
predictive programming.
It's almost like setting us upto kind of expect, setting the
scene and, for you know, settingit up for us to expect things
like that.
But I actually think it couldgo many different ways.
Like a crisis like that, likefood shortages don't have to to
(17:40):
end up and food riots.
It could be an opportunity forpeople to really come together.
Now.
The three of us lived inFlorida and we know what that
looks like during a hurricane,when everybody's lost their
electricity, like in.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Florida.
You don't have a choice.
We discussed this a coupleweeks ago In Florida.
You know that.
You have to make it, you haveto survive.
It is a fight.
It is more of a struggle to getresources, period, no matter if
it's fucking medical or if it'sgas after a hurricane.
These are things that we havebeen acclimated to learning in
(18:18):
south florida especially but wedon't have riots over it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, you're right in time, like when?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
everybody's gotta get together.
Everybody really comes together.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now, would you say, though what makes a difference
is a sense of community, like ifyou have a sense of community,
if you have a sense of yourneighbors and things like that
already, if that already exists,then when crisis happens, then
people come together even more.
Hey, did you check on misssmith down the street?
you know the old lady down thestreet or whatever it's like,
let's bring someone, becausethey're yeah, because they're in
(18:53):
a wheelchair or like whatever.
It is like I I always and Idon't know.
I mean there might be somepeople who say, patty, you're
just being naive, but like Ihonestly lean towards that when
there are crises like this thatyou know, people like to talk
negatively about human nature.
But I actually think humannature is about let's, let's
(19:14):
figure out how we can.
Um work cooperatively getthrough it together get through
it together.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It reminds me of a story, um, that always touched
me, and it was this family hadalways asked for things.
You know, knock on the door,can I?
You have some bread?
You have some milk?
Can you spare this?
What have you?
And the mom, uh, one day lookedat the son and said I want you
to go next door and I want youto ask for a cup of sugar.
(19:42):
And the son said, mom, but wehave sugar.
And she's like, I know we do,but I want the neighbors to know
that we need things.
You know, like, yeah, it's niceto be able to give too, right,
and if the neighbors are alwaysneeding from us, I want them to
(20:05):
think and feel like they're nota burden.
So go ask them for a cup ofsugar and I thought that that
was the most beautiful like here, if one snowflake falls, every
fucking gallon of milk and loafof bread has gone off the
shelves.
Yeah, but but in East Tennesseeyou can ask anybody for a cup
(20:28):
of sugar or some meal andthey'll give it to you without
hesitation.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think that there is something to giving people the
opportunity to be giving.
Remember how we tell.
We see this in relationships,you know, like if you're always
the giver, the giver, the giver,the giver, those of us who have
a hard time asking for help orasking for things and what we do
is we deprive people in ourlives who care about us the
(20:53):
opportunity to give to us,because there's something that
feels so good when you do that.
And so I think about that storyand think about how I don't
know if they included this partof the story, but how that
family must have felt.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I feel like that.
A lot, a lot of people helpedme and I would love to help them
in any way that I could helpthem.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We naturally want to reciprocate.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Anoki, is it harder for you to receive because you
are such a giver?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I have this conversation with people all the
time well, no, that's what I'msaying, like, like I'm a giver
but a lot of people have giventhings to me.
I can't give them the samethings back.
I wish, you know, I wish that Icould give them anything, just
to give them something back orhelp them when they need help.
(21:50):
You know, when you can, youknow, get through something
together with people, you feelgood at the end of the day.
If it's just you getting stuffyou know from someone, then you
feel bad.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's really hard for me to accept and not reciprocate
yeah yeah, I'm big.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did you feel bad after a little?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
bit.
Yeah okay, but I had to learnthat it's not always about that
equal reciprocity.
When it comes to you acceptingother people's gifts, that's
their blessing, and if you don'taccept it, or you accept it
(22:35):
with guilt in your heart, you'reblocking that blessing.
I was having a conversationwith my coworker last night.
Just the word.
I can never.
And I said stop, we'remanifesting with our mouth and
we are not going to negativetalk.
I said that tip will come backto you, I promise you.
(22:57):
As I am giving her this advice,this guy walks through the door
and I realized he's from a tablethat I had days ago.
I mean, like on Monday, Iwaited on this man and his
family and they didn't haveenough money and he was a server
and he said I'll be back andtheir daughter made a huge mess
(23:22):
at the table.
I do not care.
I looked at them and I saidplease enjoy your meal
guilt-free and let me clean upthis baby's mess.
Y'all just enjoy your mealtogether.
You guys don't get to go out alot.
Enjoy yourselves, et cetera,and don't worry about the tip.
Like I've been there, I knowwhat it's like to be young with
a kid.
Like, please, y'all just goenjoy your night, don't even
worry about it.
Please don't come back and giveme a tip.
(23:42):
That man walked in as I wastelling my coworker trust it,
trust the universe.
The money will always come toyou, the gifts, the blessings,
they'll always come back to you.
You have to trust it Right?
This man walked in the door andsaid I'm here to tip you from
the other night and handed me a20 spot and was like thank you,
(24:03):
have a good night and walk backout the door.
And Simone's jaw was just yeah.
And I looked at the guy and Isaid, I put my arm around him.
I said you see, simone, you see,look I told you and I looked at
the guy and I said I put my armaround him.
I said you see, simone, you see, look.
I told you and he's like, yeah,I'm real big on those blessings
coming back and I said, yes,that's exactly the level.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, you know he probably just got paid, you know
.
So Monday he didn't have awhole lot of money.
He was a server they have losttheir card.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
No-transcript.
You got to accept that blessingyeah and so that's now.
Is he struggling?
Did he need that 20 dollars?
I'm sure he did, but he has thesame belief system I do and he
knows that money is going tocome back to him because he's
not blessed.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, I was thinking in our conversation, as as you
guys were talking, that itreally comes down to.
I mean, well, one aspect that Ikept thinking about as we were
talking about all this is valueand how we value ourselves and
what is value and what do.
What a value do I have to give?
And you know, this is somethingthat, as I get older, I think
(25:37):
about because, like um Inoki'sInoki's building out her house
and there's all of these thingsgoing on, but the things that I
used to be able to do for people, I'm not physically able to do
anymore, and so so I often think, I often think, then, what is
what is a value?
Do I have to give?
(25:57):
Like I really do, I think Iwant to give things that are of
value to others.
But I used to be being aCapricorn, I used to be I do.
This is what I do, I'm going to, I'm going to make this, I'm
going to do this, I'm going todo this, I'm going to construct
this, I'm going to clean this,I'm going to and it was often so
manual.
(26:18):
It was like, yeah, manual, likeall these things that I could
do manually, but I I honestlylike it's been such a lesson and
I am trying to live in to thislesson of having like two kinds
of arthritis in my hand whichnow keep me from doing like if I
(26:41):
was in a position to do so manyof the things that I used to do
for people, I wouldn't be ableto, so okay, and I are sitting
in our head thinking about allthe ways you help people that
aren't physical and that havehelped us that aren't physical.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, exactly exactly what you're saying, like like I
.
My help was always very manualhelp.
And like recently, I've feltlike you know I I had gained a
lot of weight.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I was looking at me in Easter and I was
looking at me.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In eastern I was looking at me you know now and
it's like crazy difference, youknow.
But I want to be there and behelpful and be active with
people and be the person I'vealways been, but physically I
felt incapable of doing that,you know, and I was soly.
(27:34):
And now that I'm getting betterand stuff, you know, like, like
I'm hoping that I'll be able todo things.
You know, because, yeah, I makethings and I do things for
people and I I help, you know,in that way.
You know that, like I I don'twant to not be able to do that
for the world, because part ofthat is like my light and joy of
(27:57):
being, yeah, and yeah, in theworld, both of you just existing
is already a blessing, becauseI'm also a physical helper.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Right, what can I help you?
I do need help moving, like, ohyou, you need me to put an
apron on and come in the kitchen.
Yeah, yeah, you're a doer.
Yes, yes, you are right.
Right, you need to work on yourvan.
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna giveyou give me the same way yeah,
whatever, same way I learned atsaint jude, all of these other
ways that I could help and theways that people helped me were
(28:32):
out of the box ways and creativeand thoughtful ways.
That's also super touching.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
So, like I could I just think about like
non-physical I could walk intoPatty's cafe.
It makes me want to cry.
I could walk to Patty's Cafeand know that there would be a
perfect cup of coffee, just howI take it, and Inoki would be on
(29:04):
the back porch bench with Zoeand I could go sit with a heavy,
sad soul and Inoki and I couldsing songs while she played
guitar and we could eat mangoestogether and laugh.
Those people that fill you upright, those are the givers.
(29:26):
That is where I feel the mosttouched by giving.
You guys didn't even realizeyou were doing it no, I mean a
lot.
Well, you know, we've talkedabout this but those days
touched my soul and saved mefrom a very dark place just real
unconditional, like love, likewe, just like set out back and
(29:50):
and exchange thoughts and ourhearts.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
It was just all around beautiful.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Everything.
Yes, there was a lot ofphysical, but there was so much
giving Patti, that you didduring that time period that you
don't even fucking know about.
Same with teaching you give somuch to the world that is
non-physical yeah and you don'talways see the results of it.
(30:20):
But the lives that you havetouched same with the nokie, the
lives that you have touchedthrough your music, through
through just being you.
It would absolutely shock youto know the way that you've
touched people's lives.
They were like passerbyers inyour life.
(30:41):
But you changed their entirelife by giving them a moment of
your time it got.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's very true.
People come up to you andthey're like you, you know you
just said something.
Yeah, made me think ofeverything different.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah.
I think that's something thatthe three of us have in common.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
For sure.
I got a Facebook message fromsomebody from high school.
From somebody from high schoolshe said I just want you to know
that the advice that you gaveme not only changed my life but
it stuck with me forever and Iwill never forget what you did
for me and how you helped me.
And you forget about thosepeople.
(31:28):
I mean I forgot about her, butlike I mean not that I forgot
about her, but like it wasreally jaw dropping and awe
inspiring to receive thatmessage and think, wow, I
impacted that person that muchthat it changed their life.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
What a blessing for me to even just being a genuine
you know, genuine human, aconduit of, you know, a light in
a dark spot.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Here's a thought that I have about that.
You know, you say a light in adark spot, a no key, and the
thing is it's like you can lookat your life, you can look at
your earlier life and, taylor,you can look at your earlier
life, your life, you can look atyour earlier life and, taylor,
you can look at your earlierlife and I can look at my
earlier life and you know, it'sjust kind of the dark spot we
were.
I mean we were.
We were in many ways um kind ofbroken when we were young and
(32:27):
had to come into.
I just saw this movie and themovie itself is kind of corny,
but the title of the movie.
The only reason why I watchedthe movie was because of the
title and I thought, oh my god,that's, that's beautiful, I want
to watch this movie, and it was.
It was an okay movie.
It was kind of a tear jerker,whatever.
But the movie was called uh,more, more beautiful for having
(32:47):
been broken and I thought I, Ilike that title, so I'm gonna
watch that movie.
So, um, the movie almost livedup to the title, but not quite.
Um, but I've been around peoplewho never really had bad things
happen to them, they, they, theyhad like a good childhood and
(33:08):
nice relationships, like youknow, like nothing ever and and
I I don't want to be critical,but it's like there's a certain
kind of um absence of depth whenyou haven't yourself been
broken, when my brother took meto the place that she grew up in
(33:33):
this coastal Michigan town, Icried.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I cried because it looked like every family focus
on the family film I'd ever seenin my life.
You know everything that I hadseen, you know, shooken into me.
You know that I just couldnever obtain it was so beautiful
(34:01):
to know that, that, and don'tget me wrong, she did have, you
know, really hard childhoodbecause she lost her mom young
you know, childhood because shelost her mom.
Young, you know, but up untilthat point.
Like I mean, there's a memorialplaque on the football field
for her mom.
It was such a small beautifultown, as broken and as scorned
(34:27):
as I always was, you know, likeI wanted a life that was like a
focus on the family yeah, Idon't, I don't know if you guys
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I do know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I was homeschooled and I watched the buttercream
gang and loved it.
I read all the boxcar children.
You know that was like a drama,you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean but I didn't have that life yeah, I think
that that three of us, in ourown way, experienced like this
basic longing for this um, it'sperfect, loving family without
trauma, you know, without pain,you know just, you know where we
felt like we completelybelonged.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So I tried to, for, coming from a traumatized home
and a broken home, raisechildren who were not
traumatized.
However, life happens and theywere put in a position where
they saw things I wish theydidn't see and they understood
death my older sons at eight and10 years old in a way that they
(35:34):
watched their peers die andsome things you can't protect
people from.
Yeah, so you can make thelittle family and and you can
have every opportunity to givethem a soft life, but we're here
for lessons and the universe.
(35:55):
Without trauma, we have nothingright.
I mean like trauma it reallybuilds character is what I mean.
It's what I mean when I saythat and everybody has it
there's no perfect parent andlife isn't perfect, so things
happen.
But the unity of it all reallygives you this opportunity to
(36:19):
make that a lesson too.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I want to focus on the beautiful things in life and
not focus on, you know,everything that I don't.
I don't have.
I want to be thankful for thegreat experiences I get to have,
because there's so many greatexperiences.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You know the whole thing about how we're drawn to
the bad or whatever.
As an English teacher, I'vereally struggled in the
classroom with this whole focuson dystopian novels like the
post-apocalyptic novels andeverything that we have our kids
reading.
You know all these years andeverything and you know I've
(36:59):
thought about that a lot and Ienjoy the novels myself, but
still it's kind of like wow,that's a focus on just this.
You know, when you look at themovies and everything in our
culture, I like your new storyand how your new story.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know that you're.
They're all in chaos and and,and I guess those characters Go
out here, you know.
Yeah.
Smell in the air and smell inthe back.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That that's my.
That's my new.
I'm in love.
My, that's my new projectactually is to have to write
love stories, and to write lovestories in a book that will
actually that story will be theanchor story, but it's after the
moon fell away, because themoon is actually as much as we
(37:43):
might be enamored, and we talkedabout the moon, the Capricorn
moon and all this, and with thefull moon or whatever, it may be
completely artificial and itmight be part of, or the nexus
for, this system, or you knowthat that we live under that we
call the matrix on earth, and so, rather than writing post
apocalyptic stories, I want towrite stories about finding love
(38:07):
, love stories that take placein a world that is finally free
from all of the things that haveenslaved us and so like humans,
who are free again and who cantap into who we really are and
what our nature really is.
That's why the sun is soimportant in this world and not
the moon, like the moon couldfall away and that was okay, but
(38:30):
then there are other thingsthat fall away, and so that
people meet each other and fallin love under circumstances that
are that are that seemimpossible, but perhaps there's
a story about how fairies bringtwo people together, or there's
a story about you know all likethis world that we, you know
know, can, can imagine free ifit's free from all of the things
(38:55):
that have constrained us.
And so those are the storiesthat I want to imagine, and I
want all of the stories in thiscollection to be love stories,
but love stories in a world thatis post post matrix and so it
begins with so it begins withthe moon falling away, because
maybe the moon is part of it,but at any rate, that's.
(39:17):
That's kind of my, my newwriting.
I'm liking the direction, youlike the direction I'm going.
I like the direction you'regoing I love it.
I, I kind of want to write aboutthese wonderful, uh,
imaginative life uh stories thattake that are about people
coming together in natural butamazing ways or like impossible
(39:41):
ways, but are now possiblebecause we are more free to be
the full humans that we werealways meant to be.
So, at any rate, that's kind of.
Those are my, those are mythoughts, but I just wanted to
(40:04):
yeah, I like it, oh, I soappreciate that you guys.
What's the inspiration, what isthe instruction of the
inspiration for us movingforward into the next week or
weeks ahead, as we move intowhat will probably be a very hot
(40:27):
summer.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, in many ways the world is getting hot.
Yeah, in many ways the world isgetting hot.
Um.
So today I pulled um.
This is this is who I found andwho jumped out to me today.
Um, patty and I and I'm surenokia too we, um, this is one of
our favorite authors.
(40:48):
I think I speak for both of uswhen I say that um, if you all
have never heard of Jamie Sands,you should highly consider
reading one of her books.
So we're reading from this decktoday, patty, this is actually
(41:09):
your book from the shopBeautiful.
So we'll be reading MedicineCards by Jamie Sams.
These cards are super, superin-depth and a story usually
goes along with them as far asthe application goes.
So it'll be a whole lesson herein these.
(41:29):
So I'm going to go ahead andchoose a card coming out of
solstice and this Capricorn fullmoon and what messages the
universe has to allow.
We pulled the fox.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
The little fox.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
And so we shall read him.
And the fox.
I always love thinking aboutwhat I believe the medicine to
be prior to and for me?
For me, a fox is like they havethis ability to hide in plain
sight and be super observant ina room full of people and just
(42:08):
kind of like slide through theethers and not be seen, but but
taking it all in the fullspectrum of a situation.
So this is what Jamie Sams hasto say about Fox.
Fox, where are you Under theferns, becoming the forest so
(42:32):
that I can learn?
Are you watching, invisible tome, trying to teach me to become
a tree?
So Wiley Fox has many allies inthe woodlands, including the
foliage, which offers protectionand much medicine.
Fox signifies camouflage.
The flora is Fox's ally.
(42:55):
The ability to meld into one'ssurroundings and be unnoticed is
a powerful gift when observingthe activities of others.
Another natural gift of fox isto adapt.
Like a chameleon, they changecolors to adapt to winter.
Its rich white coat allows foxto blend into the snow and the
leaves no longer linger.
(43:16):
Fox medicine involvesadaptability, cunning,
observation, integration andswiftness of thought and action.
These traits also include quickdecisiveness and
sure-footedness in the physicalworld.
So fox's ability to be unseenallows them to be the protector
(43:38):
in a family unit.
When danger arises, fox isJohnny on the spot.
Nanhi Waya, great Spirit in theChoctaw Tongue, honors Fox with
the duty of keeping the familytogether and safe.
This is accomplished throughFox's ability to observe the
undetected without making othersself-conscious.
(43:59):
Fox is always concerned withthe safety of family members and
is an excellent talisman forthose traveling.
If Fox has chosen to share itsmedicine today, it is a sign
that we are to become like thewind, which is unseen the wind
just started blowing so hardwhich is unseen, yet able to
(44:21):
weave into and through anylocation or situation.
You would be wise to observethe acts of others and their
words at this time.
Use your cunning nature in apositive way.
Keep silent about who and whatand why you are observing.
In learning the art ofcamouflage, you need to test
(44:42):
your abilities in order to pullthis off.
One test is to help youdeciding to be invisible.
You might try to visualize yourbody as part of the
surroundings full of color andthe location that you are.
See yourself in your mind's eye, moving with stealth and grace,
unheeded by others.
If you do it right, it works.
(45:03):
You can leave a party unnoticedor become an unobstructed piece
of furniture.
If you choose watching thedeveloping drama of the subjects
you are studying While learningfrom thoughts, you might also
gain confidence in your abilityto know instantly what will
happen next.
After observing for a while,you will become aware of certain
(45:25):
predictabilities in any givensituation and might be able to
make your move.
Fox Medicine teaches the art ofoneness through understanding of
camouflage.
Fox medicine teaches the art ofoneness through understanding
of camouflage.
This applies on all levels,from rocks to God.
With fox medicine, you're beingasked to see all types of uses
(45:47):
for your oneness.
Much like clowns at the rodeo,fox can keep the raging bull
from stampeding a friend orfamily member.
Fox can use silly tactics as abrilliant camouflage move.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
No one could guess the sly power behind such an
ingenious maneuver.
I think the fox sounds like aCapricorn, because he's quiet
and watching your surroundingslike not that you would ever.
You know, sit on the stump inthe forest quietly waiting for
deer to come, waiting to meltinto nature that's about what
(46:29):
I'm going to do in a few minutesnot that you like watching and
observing the world around youquietly, young, european too.
A few.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, no, that's that's true.
That's true.
I was thinking like such acentral um idea in what you were
reading taylor has to do withbeing an observer.
Yeah, kind of sitting back, andit's you know, and it isn't-.
Non-reactive, non- reactive,it's not emotional.
(47:03):
It's being this observer andkind of blending in and
observing everything so that youcan better protect the people
in your lives, you can betterpredict what might be happening
next.
If things are going to bepretty chaotic and unpredictable
, how much will we need that Foxmedicine to become better
(47:26):
observers?
You know where you're sittingback and you're not really
calling attention to yourself,you're kind of blending in with
the background and and you'resitting back and it and it isn't
emotional, it's not reactive,so that we can make better
choices, you know.
So you know how you were sayingEnoki, you know, like sitting
in the midst of chaos, beingable to do that we might find
(47:51):
ourselves.
You know, this might be a verychaotic summer.
There might just be, um,increasingly more, more things
that are kind of playing at us,and so that whole observer
position I think is is reallyvaluable yeah, those are my
thoughts.
Those are my thoughts on it.
What do you think, taylor?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
um, well, I immediately could apply it to my
personal life.
Immediately, I thought, well,it's a really good lesson.
I am a reactive and emotiveperson.
However, there is still.
I do believe Fox is one of mynine totems.
If I was going to include umtotem, I definitely, uh,
(48:37):
consider myself to be close tofox.
I definitely have the ability tovibe with that, with that that
lesson so I think that, um, it'sinteresting to look at fox and
in the family dynamic way,because they are very much the
same.
You know.
Think about like and betweenwolf and raccoon you've got fox
(48:59):
and family is still so veryimportant during certain seasons
.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
The fox is very family oriented they den up yeah
, but for a good portion of theyear foxes in solitude yeah,
there's, they're solitarywandering it's to establish its
territories and and parts andthey're kind of the best of both
worlds you know when it comesto that and like like all the
(49:28):
way around, like a fox is reallyagile, very fast very fast
blends.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Can I?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
can I?
Can I interject as an English?
An English teacher.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
All right.
So you know how I was talkingabout, like how I'm not like.
You know, dystopian novels.
You know I think they're kindof overplayed a lot, but you
know we have them in our schools, that they're they're part of
every English department in inhigh schools and so we've, we've
read the Hunger Games and ofcourse I've seen the Hunger
Games and whatever you know, we,you know the Hunger Games are
like this dystopian, postapocalyptic, whatever.
(50:08):
Now, in the Hunger Games thereis a character called Foxface
and she is a character who'svery much like a Fox.
And in the hunger games, youknow the this is horrible
situation where all these youngpeople are, they've got to kill,
kill each other and see wholasts.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
And they're like I don't know there's, like you
know there are.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
There are a lot of them.
They're what are there?
13, 12, I think, 12.
No, they're 24.
And so they're, all you know,kind of fighting each other,
killing each other and whatever.
Fox face doesn't want to killanyone.
She doesn't.
She doesn't want to kill.
So she is not somebody whokills.
But what she does is she isamazing at hiding, at observe,
(50:56):
hiding in places where she canobserve others getting getting
food, you know, like where youknow observing and finding out
where she can get food.
And she is one of the last.
Of course she, she does end updying, but she lasts all the way
to the end.
She lasts longer than some ofthe more aggressive, heavy,
(51:21):
heavily weaponized you knowpeople in, you know, you know
competitors in the Hunger Games.
She lasts almost to the very,very end and in the only reason
why she dies is because, um, shehas observed katniss, um and
(51:41):
pita gathering berries.
Pita has mistakenly gatheredberries for them and because he
he's kind of an idiot in theforest he's gathered poisonous
berries and he's made this pileof berries and Katniss, of
course, returns and says my God,those are poisonous.
But Foxface has gotten to thebear, she's observed them, right
(52:06):
, because she's one of the lastpeople to survive, and so are
they, and so she's observingthem.
And she sees the pile ofberries and she goes and she
steals some of the berries.
The pile of berries, and shegoes and she steals some of the
berries and unfortunately,that's how Foxface dies, because
she has mistakenly eatenpoisonous berries.
But this character of Foxfaceis so, and I find it really
(52:30):
interesting, that she was one ofthe ones that lasted the
longest without killing a singleperson.
She did it because all throughthe power of observation and
being, like you said, anoki,very fast and agile and stealthy
you know, yeah, yeah, anyway, Ihad to throw, I had to throw
(52:50):
that in.
I had to throw in a little, alittle hunger games.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I like that.
Yeah little, a little hungergames.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah, anything else, anyfinal words?
It made me think about um, as achild.
Um, I had, I had an adult in my, in my life teach us how to be
invisible.
I'm sorry, the practice of thatis absolutely fascinating, and
(53:24):
more so when you see it actuallywork.
It is amazing, amazing.
The powers of invisibility isreal, um, and it can help you in
(53:44):
your everyday life, oh, yeah.
So for me personally, it's notto be less emotive, but to be
more aware of my emotions and,uh, be more observant in
situations where usually I wouldbe more vocal.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
So shut up and just watch, yeah, because if you're
working on being invisible orcamouflaged in a situation, then
you really have to be silent,don't you?
Yeah?
Or neutral or camouflaged in asituation, then you really have
to be silent, don't you, yeah?
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Or neutral.
At least you know.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
You know, and I just want to say like one final
thought of it you know, as we'removing into, you know, there
was that whole situation in yourneighborhood, taylor, and we
see this in schools andeverything you know.
Something happens right.
There's a fight going on,there's some chaos going on.
There's there's a fight goingon, there's some chaos going on,
there's some loud noises andeverybody rushes in, everybody
rushes to to see the drama andwhat's going on, and they love
(54:42):
it.
And this fox is calling us, uh,calling upon us to to not rush
in but to pull back from adistance and observe right, so
that we can better protectourselves and others, and so
forth.
And so I think, like if we aremoving into a time where there
(55:03):
might be things popping offright, all kinds of stuff
popping up rather than movingcloser to where things are
popping off, fox asks us to pullback, to be quiet and observe
right and be camouflaged so thatwe can make wiser choices in
the chaos.
(55:23):
And so I just wanted to kind ofyou know, because I experienced
that as a teacher.
You know that fight goes, afight's happening and
everybody's rushing towards thefight with their cameras on and
everything.
That's just kind of what ourculture has come to.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
And yeah, an excitement instead of a worry or
a caution.
Yeah, so Fox.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Fox is like no, the move is back, Move is be, be
that, be that distant observerand you'll you'll make wiser
choices.
Let's see how it applies thisweek.
I, I love it.
And any final words, you guys,before we say goodbye Love you
guys.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Love you All right.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Fox.
Yes, yes, Love you guys.
It was awesome.
Have a great week everyone.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Happy weekend and have a great week.
Everyone happy weekend and havea good week and we'll see you
guys next saturday.
Love you, music.
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