September 25, 2024 • 68 mins
Ever wonder how a rare cosmic event like a blood moon or a lunar eclipse in Pisces can mess with your emotions and dreams? Join us on Patti Talks Too Much as we explore the mystical influence of the recent celestial phenomenon, alongside a curious theory about a temporary second moon that might just be an alien mothership. We draw fascinating connections to guardians in "The Fifth Element" and discuss the critical role of empathy in understanding extraterrestrial intentions. This isn’t your average astrological chat; expect a blend of science, speculation, and some serious pondering about the unknown.
Switching gears, we tackle the grim reality of school safety with raw honesty. Hear Taylor’s gripping story of how a stock image of weapons forced her to make the tough decision to homeschool her children, reigniting the trauma of past school shootings. Our conversation covers the emotional scars students bear when schools fail to properly address violent incidents and the glaring lack of security across different regions. From personal anecdotes to broader societal critiques, we emphasize the urgent need for better mental health resources and security measures to protect our kids.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to our live stream.
This is Patti, with Patti TalksToo Much, and this live stream
was recorded on Sunday,september 22nd.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
A lot going on, a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
There's a lot going on.
We had this, we had the lunareclipse this past week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It wasn't just a lunar eclipse.
It was a blood moon, harvestmoon, super moon, on a lunar
eclipse that I feel likedeserves all the recognition of
its eight years long name.
In.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Pisces, I think, yeah , it definitely felt In Pisces
yeah.
Yeah, I mean it definitely.
Like I felt it the day before,like I wasn't it really um, it
seemed like it affected my sleep.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, like I was so sad because of the gray
weather.
I was not overcoming the grayweather really well.
Um, it was just gray, a littletoo long for my, my well-being,
yeah, but the next day it wasbeautiful and like the third day
of the full moon, because fullmoon cycles are usually three
(01:15):
days, and so like the very lastday of it, or whatever.
It was freaking it wasbeautiful.
The moon was still pretty.
Like I didn't get to see it onthe day of the eclipse because
of all the clouds and stuff, butthen it was.
It was amazing the next day andI had a really good day.
But I've been having weirddreams because I quit smoking
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and, uh, they're just like allover the place.
You know, and then, I'm like Iwake up, you know, and I'm like
I don't want to do this, youknow, and I wake up and and uh,
and then I go right back to them.
You know, like so I'm like allright, I have to like change
this somehow you know, yeah,I've had that experience too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And, um, I don't generally remember my dreams,
but there are these moments whenI wake up where I remember, but
I don't write it down thesedays and so it's gone.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You know it's gone by the time I think about it never
, never remembered, like likeever.
But but since, like what'smoving, I would have crazy
dreams all the time.
My ADHD is like off the charts,if you haven't already noticed.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Well, you know the, but also I've been hearing that
the you know that theastrological aspects have also
been affecting people's dreams.
So people you know, likedifferent podcasts that I
listened to you know the woopodcast people have been talking
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about like, wow, my dreams havebeen off the charts.
I'm dreaming more, I'mremembering more and they're
just really like these epicdreams.
I don't really know if I'm yeah, I don't know if I'm having
epic dreams.
I just know that I think I'mdreaming more and I drop into
dreams sooner.
Like you know, like I can Iwon't go right back to a dream.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You know what else is a really cool thing?
We have a temporary second moonright now.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's going to last for about two months.
It's an asteroid?
Yeah, I don't think so, but itstill has like a gravitational.
It depends on what kind of rockit's made out of.
You know, think about it if youthrew a giant quartz up into
the sky, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I don't think that's an asteroid.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think everything is .
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't think it's an asteroid no.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't think it's an asteroid.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't think it's a moon.
I think that it's a cover forsome kind of mother mothership,
a mothership yeah, I think it'sa mothership but I think that
they're, you know, oh yeah, well, I think that they're
technology they're there for areason and it's interesting that
they're close to the moon,because I've been saying for a
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long time that moon isartificial, that moon doesn't
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean like we've, we've incorporated, I didn't see
the face on the moon and Ihadn't seen the face on the moon
and the moon had been coming upwhere it was supposed to come
up, where it wasn't coming up,where it was a lot of people for
the last, like four or fivemonths yep so maybe it.
Maybe it fixed it, maybe it waslike uh-uh, no, you're gonna
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throw off the whole universefucking this moon up and it that
mothership, like went overthere and was like no, we're
gonna, we're gonna fix this yeah, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it's.
There have been a lot ofreports that the moon has not
been in the position it'ssupposed to be in recently, so
there's a lot of thingshappening with the moon I think
aliens are helpers, like like infifth element.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know how like they had the guardians that came
back, you know, and like shewas, like this super being that
was supposed to unlock theelemental power of the earth or
whatever.
Nobody really knows the likedeepness that that movie was.
You know everybody just thinksbecause it had that weird cyborg
guy, you know, as the bad guy,and bruce willis is like a dude
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there they did.
They missed the big messagebehind it.
You know what I mean.
But there was basically that.
You know there are, there areguardians older than time, you
know that that aren't here onthe planet.
They come back, you know, andthey kind of reset things when
it gets too far out of balanceyeah, like maybe founder beings
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or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But I think, like there, I think that the
off-world beings are as diverseas humans.
So there are some that havenefarious intentions and there's
some that are benevolent.
And it's really too bad that somuch of it has been suppressed
because we're at a humanity's ata bit of a disadvantage,
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because we're going to have tofigure out how to discern
between the two.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know, and and I honestly I think that's why
empathy is important, becauseempathy, you don't need language
, you know it is a language youknow so like if you can read the
energy of something going up toit, you know you're a lot safer
of an element.
You know, but like most peopleare just gonna have a heart
attack and freak out and youthink that we're all well,
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that's just thing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If you're, if you're in a, if you're in a sphere
state because you'reencountering something you've
never encountered before, it'sreally hard to use accurate
discernment.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, and you don't know how to read it or feel
where it's going, or tell thedifference between something
that has good intent and badintent.
I think empathy is theimportant part.
You can walk up to an animal,you don't speak to an animal,
and you can tell if you haveempathy whether or not that's a
good animal to be around or agood moment for that animal.
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Maybe it's normally a verydangerous animal, but it's
sharing this case with you andexchanging an energy through
empathy and and you can discernthat.
But most people block that out.
Yeah, live in a fear state andgo by what they're told instead
of what they want to experiencefor themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You know, yeah, using our own um you know, like our
own own abilities, yeah, our owninnate ability to kind of
figure this out.
We've been kind of taught notto you know, not not to trust it
, unfortunately yeah.
So it's interesting because youbring up empathy, and I, um a
fellow teacher shared this, umthis article with me this week
(07:47):
about how, um our young peopledon't read books anymore.
Like books are.
You know, like very few of ourlike teenagers will read a book,
even in school, like theteachers will just do excerpts,
you know, but they won'tactually do a book from cover to
cover.
And one of the things there area lot of things that young
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people lose when they don't reada book from cover to cover, but
one of them is empathy, becausewhen you read a book from cover
to cover, you develop arelationship with the characters
and you actually you get toempathy.
The word and emotions to theword you get to exercise your
empathy muscle and uh, andthat's one of the the few ways
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that we get really funny.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
it's really funny that you say that uptick coming
in his head.
Um, it's really funny that yousay that because yesterday I
went to the salvationvation Armyand I bought like 34 books.
I bought like 34 books and Ifound some like cool, like I
don't know, like witchy books,like I don't know I wanted like
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a cool you know a couple coolcollections.
I found this book called Wonderand it like seemed like it was
going gonna be a good book orwhatever you know, so I picked
it up.
And then I picked up some likebooks that looked like maybe
they were like teen witch booksor something like Blood Moon and
stuff, and I was like, wow,that's really cool because we
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just had the Blood Moon, yeahyou know.
But like literally spent like20 bucks on quarter books at the
salvation army yeah that'sawesome generally around game
books too.
We found a couple of the what toexpect books too.
You know this is gonna be jen'sfirst go, you know, through
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pregnancy or whatever it goes, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Um yeah, books are.
Books are awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I highly recommend and so there's no better decor
than books in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, they make the best decoration, you know?
I just I had this really a book.
I uh, yeah, okay.
So I had this.
Really, um, I don't even knowhow to describe this experience,
but like I have this, this umnew friend at work I know how to
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describe it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's amazing too.
No, but going to talk about um.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It has read two of my three books, Right, and so the
first one I read was um,perilous and beautiful, and it
was so awkward, you know, likeshe's she's reading it and like
her room is across the hall fromme, and so it's kind of like
I'm on chapter and I was like ohgod, and I'd go home and look
oh my god, she's reading herheart she's not the one, that's
(10:51):
the one that's um and I, but youknow to have to to hear someone
respond to um, to my writingand to my book, because I
outside of your inner circleoutside
Speaker 2 (11:06):
of who you value their opinion, who's also an
educator in literature.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, more, more more educated than me and the thing
is like she not just in a vanoutside of your house, did she?
She had like really high praisefor my writing and, um, I
almost like didn't know how to.
I didn't know how to handle it.
It's not weird, I just didn't,you know you're awesome, you
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know and and you can.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You can put faces to the, the characters in your
books and stuff, because youdescribe them really well and
you really put, put a put apersona to each person in there,
you know and and, and that'sgreat, it paints a picture for
people to be able to empathizeand relate and visualize as
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they're reading.
You know, well, that was onething she said, that displaying
the full picture, yeah, thevisuals of it.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, so that was kind of, you know, I was like,
oh, okay, and then read um,wildflowers and present tenses,
which was the memoir, which isinteresting because a lot of the
stories in my memoir andwildflowers and present tenses
are kind of like the actualstory of what's happened.
(12:23):
And then you read, you read thefictionalized story and then
you read the actual story andthere's, you know, um, but it
was uh, it that.
So that was really quite, um,quite an experience for me and
it's, you know, and because it'salso everybody's excited for
the next book's drop everybody'sexcited for the next book yeah,
(12:45):
you've got a whole series going.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know I do.
Well, I have a whole.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I have a, um, a whole series I can't wait to see what
happens to.
Oh, the next, the next book inum after perilous and beautiful.
Well, there's also, you know,wild flowers is a series too.
So the third book in thatseries was supposed to be
wildflowers and laughing crones,and I was.
I was telling this friend ofmine at work that I feel like I
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have to live into that morebecause it really sent me a
little a little bit of right.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's the one that you sent me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
A little bit there's still in it, right oh no, that
that would have been thecontinuation of the perilous and
beautiful.
That would have been the next,that would have been an excerpt
from the next book.
Okay, yeah.
So I've got, yeah, I've got,obviously, I've got a few irons
in the fire and it's figuringout, um, you know where I want
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to, where I want to focus my, myenergy, and then there's like
the, the whole.
I find it really interestingthat the moon is coming up for a
lot of people right now,because I have that whole idea,
like that first story, thatstory that I wrote, that was the
love story and it had to dowith what, what happens, like
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the backdrop of it, is that themoon has fallen away, and like
there are these people who arekind of living.
I love that one, yeah yeah, so Iwas going to do a series of
stories, um, that have to dowith um, what, what love looks
like, love stories after themoon has fallen away, because we
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associate so much of likefalling in love with the moon.
But is it?
Is it really is it?
Is it really that helpful?
With love or um?
Is it more the sun?
So, uh, you know.
So anyway, I'm just um, I'mjust playing wrote a song um.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
it was called Paper Doll, but in the song part of
her chorus is like we're allwaiting to see what you do.
We're all what I think it's.
We're all waiting to see whatyou do.
You know like we are waiting tosee what you do.
Yeah and excited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And excited for what?
You do yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And excited, and excited for it.
Yeah, yeah, hey, taylor Goodmorning, good morning, I was
just responding.
Good morning Good morning, goodmorning.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
We've just been all over the place talking about the
moon, talking about, um, someof my granny talking about so
did you hear it?
Were you, did you hear it?
I know we didn't see you, butdid you hear any of what we were
talking about, taylor?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
yeah, I've been listening in and like laughing
while I made my coffee because Ioverslept.
It's per usual.
First of all, I don't know howI would be so nerve-wracking for
me to know that the personacross the hall or my co-worker
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was reading my book.
It's a little nerve-wracking.
We're talking her into it.
We're not talking her out of itand you're like I'm at chapter
four and I'm like oh shit,that's a little, we're talking
her into it and you're like I'mat chapter four and I'm like, oh
shit, that's a chapter with dad.
Fuck, I have daddy issues now.
I'm like that's hard.
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It's really cool to be openbecause people accept you for
who you are and you know, andshe's getting her best.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Reviews that are from an actual colleague that she
respects, which is exciting,yeah, which is yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So it's kind of, yeah , it's all really really
interesting.
So I think I'm I'm kind ofgetting a little closer to
finishing, like diving back into, you know, getting some more
writing done.
I've been, you know, so busy inthe kitchen doing all this
other stuff, but I can find timefor I can be good for you, I'm
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excited to hear.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, cooking and nurturing by day and then
writing and inspiring by night,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, and teaching at a.
You know, teaching in a crazy,not for long, not for long.
Yeah, probably not, probablynot.
I don't know, I don't know, areyou right, the eclipse,
whatever that was.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I made everybody run outside.
I was like everybody stopeverything you're doing and go
outside and watch the eclipse.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh, you could see it we couldn't see it it rained for
three days.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That was the final day.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That room was intense .
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Wow, wow.
That was the final day.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
that was intense like wow, wow, I don't, I don't, um,
yeah, yeah, I'm an emotionalmess like I'll just blame the
moon, fine yeah, so I'm, I hadmy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
My sleep was off for a few days.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh, my goodness, I know it's so funny the day of
the full moon, eclipse, right?
So the night before the nightbefore the eclipse I'm I don't
know if I slept at all, I meanlike I really had a hard time
falling asleep, right?
So I'm sitting in this meeting,this effing meeting, Towards
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the end of the day.
It's just one of those, I'msorry, mindless, stupid weekly
meetings of whatever wherepeople stand up in front of the
class and masturbate on uh,whatever new, um pedagogical
bullshit that they're just thatthey've discovered or that we
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should be following, whateverright.
And at one point and you knowhow, I show everything on my
face, right?
So at one point she looks at meand she says are you okay?
And I was like yeah, I'm prettytired.
No, this is fucking painful forme, no but, you know what no but
you know what I said.
So I said I'm pretty tired andI don't like meetings it was a
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teacher meeting to clarifyFuture meeting, oh God.
But you know what the thing isis since then she has been like
she has made it clear in herbody language and everything
that she just doesn't have, likeshe's not happy with me.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
She really was and you upset her.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I know I upset her poor little educator ego, yeah,
oh God.
But at any rate that's just.
You know, so I'm kind of, andthen you know and so, and then I
have that experience and Ithink maybe you really do need
to get out before they kick youout because your attitude is
starting to really show.
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So I don't know, I don't know,so we'll, we'll see.
I was telling a Nokia I appliedto this online tutor thing that
you can do.
I told my boys out of school Iknow, let's hear all about that,
I mean told me and I was sohappy.
Yeah.
I know he said well, taylortook her kids out of school.
I said what?
(20:25):
But that's all I know, so let'shear it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Literally all.
That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That's it.
That's all there is to thestory.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, they had a Taylor.
You're muted.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You're muted.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I'm on that weird screen on that weird screen
where the church is in, and mydogs are barking at every church
door with the bible oh okay, ohall right, but so anyways, yeah
, so I didn't, I didn't hear thewhole story, but yeah, yeah,
let's hear it.
It was a really stressfulmorning.
I woke up to a text messagefrom a friend that was an image.
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It ended up being a Googlestock image.
However, where I live, there isone high school in our city,
one.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You don't have options.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
The next time I'm over it.
Over there is one high schoolnow.
You all know how I feel aboutschool shootings.
I've made it very clear I lived.
I lived through one oh yeah, oh, yeah I have my very strong
opinions about these types ofthings um and the prevention of
such.
That morning, um, I got thisstock, it was.
(21:53):
It was.
All I saw was this image and itwas ar-15s and handguns laid
out on the bed and it said to aspecific school such and you are
next.
It is the next town, over thesister high school, the closest
high school to our high school,and they shut down the whole
county.
They shut down not the county,but the schools in that district
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.
They shut down Whole districts.
I have a big problem.
My kids are getting ready forschool.
What am I supposed to do?
I'm like well, all right, getdressed, let's go now.
My kids are already emotional.
My kids have already seen thisshit on the internet.
It's not like they didn't seeit before.
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I saw it right.
So they tell me what they saw.
Now I'm upset.
I have a co-worker call me myco-worker from from work.
Our kids go to the same highschool.
She calls me and she's likeTaylor.
My kid is having a panic attack.
He doesn't want to go today.
I don't know what to do.
This is terrible.
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There is more of a policepresence.
I've just read that there'smore of a police presence, that
they've pulled police fromcounties out of Virginia that
are the most podunk, anyways.
So they've got all of theseextra police and they go to get
out of the car.
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I'm still on the phone with myfriend who's like, yeah, I just
dropped him off.
He's so worried and I'm like,all right, I love.
Who's like, yeah, I justdropped him off.
He's so worried and I'm like,all right, I love you.
Bye, we get out of the car.
And I looked in the rearviewmirror.
When I looked in the rearviewmirror, all I could see was
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Peyton standing there becominghysterical, and as he stood
there and I watched tears startto run down his face you had
already dropped him off Isnapped Yep, they were out of
breath, they were on thesidewalk.
I snapped, I threw my car intopark and I was like get back in
the car, we're done, I'm done.
Get back in the car, we're done, this is it, I'm done.
Get back in the car.
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I went home and I signed themup for homeschool and I called
the farm school and they werewithdrawn the same day.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They were what.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Withdrawn the same day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I didn't hear.
Did you hear what she said?
They were withdrawn on the sameday.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yep, she withdrew them, and they were withdrawn on
the same day.
We found all the forms that weneeded to withdraw them and the
decoration of the homeschoolDone deal.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And you know what, taylor, you know you're not the
only one.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm not allowing the system.
I'm not.
I refuse to allow the system tobreak my children.
Yes, the last straw for me.
Yeah, it turns out that it wasthe same kind of scenario that
you all had play out in georgiain georgia.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, it's like a network.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It was a network of children.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's what they said they had done a Google stock.
You know it was a Google stockimage, but again in my mind, you
have to understand the way thatI think.
I think look where I live.
There is one high school welive in a place that is
indoctrinated by old headwaysand religious beliefs and racist
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bigotry bullshit.
This place is.
These high school students hereare super conservative and oh
my God.
I like your green door.
If I could finish, a thought,super conservative and just it's
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really for my kids who comefrom a multicultural, open gay
welcoming.
We come from a different place,so my open gay welcoming we
come from a different place, somy kids don't necessarily melt
into this soup the same way.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The country is beautiful, but everything is
different is stuck.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's like we're so many people here are decades
behind in in the progressivenessof of thought.
I don't know how to explain it,but not my kids, not anymore.
So that same day, uh, somebodypulled a fire alarm they ended
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up.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
That's not cool imagine that's not cool then
they wait.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
No, it gets better.
The principal sends out.
This is the same day that Ipull them out of school.
I would have still been comingto get my kids early because my
kids would have had a panicattack.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Somebody sets off a fire alarm.
Yeah, but when they set off thefire alarm, the principal sends
a letter out like a real timeemail that says we're so sorry.
It must've been the dust.
There was dust on the, on thepulley, and so it it triggered
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the alarm oh my gosh, you gottabe kidding me, man here, buddy.
Uh, they still had so manypeople in the office picking up
their kid that when my friendwent back to pick up her son,
who had the panic attack in themorning, was like I can't do
this, come get me.
The fire alarm went off.
I'm hearing popping noises.
She gets to the school to pickup her kid and the office is
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full of parents and they are.
They are arguing with parentsabout removing their children.
Well, your kid is faith.
She's like my kid will get inthe car now.
You can go get get my kid now.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Get my kid, call my kid down.
I'm signing my kid out.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now it was really funny because within an hour of
them getting my withdrawalnotice, I got a phone call from
the high school and they werelike we don't need any of your
records until you return ourChromebooks and I'm like, say
less, I'm in the car, I'm on myway, baby, is there anything
(28:31):
else?
Library books Y'all got feesthat I owe.
What's up?
Because there's one thing,hello, there's one thing.
I know Y'all don't want my kidsto leave because their test
scores make y'all look good.
Okay, so you lose that now.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I was just really big mad about it.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You do not need to be outside well, this is what I
you know and I've been.
I've been talking about thisand I've been hearing other
people talking about how, um,our, our high schools are are
going to like.
I've heard this from severalsources.
Don't be surprised if the highschools go remote this year.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think, I think all of them, I think, I think
they're even junior high andelementary Maybe because the
statistics for arrest in Georgiathis month or whatever for this
particular scenario are 10 and12 and 13 year olds.
Two, like the majority of thekids that they arrested for
making threats, were in middleschool.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We're not talking about high schoolers.
I again, middle school, middleschool.
We're getting guns, we'rebringing them to school, we're
shooting teachers.
I I was telling my friend fromNew York that at Lake Worth
middle school I think middleschool is the least stable time
of all of my life.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, I'd agree with you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's the trauma of me having to live through the fact
that the girl that I lived withthat I called my sister that
was in the classroom.
I got firsthand accounts shewatched it happen.
I got firsthand accounts shewatched it happen.
(30:08):
I lived with that and her PTSDfrom that for years.
Right.
But following that school yearafter Barry Grinnell was shot in
his classroom, I then was inthat classroom the next year.
They didn't shut the classroomdown, they didn't make it so
nobody ever had it.
They didn't make it a memorial.
No, they continued to make it aclassroom.
(30:29):
They put a picture over thebullet holes.
It wasn't even in a frame.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It was just a poster.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, I had to then walk into that classroom and sit
there every day and I amspiritually hypersensitive so
I'd be in the middle of a testand just feel Mr Grunow around
me and absolutely lose it.
I couldn't walk through thethreshold of the door.
I would step over it because Iknew exactly how his body laid.
(30:56):
But my friend was like the factthat they kept that classroom
open and just expected people toforget what the fuck happened
and go on like the perpetuationof ignorance.
It blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know and like the lack of empathy the lack of
being sensitive you know, like,oh, we don't have to be, you
know, know, we don't have totake in consideration the impact
you know that this has on kidsand you know the thing is, it's
like they teach sensitivity,like you know where we spend an
awful lot of time, you know, um,talking about the mental health
(31:37):
of our, of our youth, now, youknow, and yet they're going to
stand at that counter and arguewith parents who are pulling
their, their kids, out becausethey're having panic attacks
because of the unsafety of theschool, and it's like, oh no,
they're safe.
Oh well, where did all yoursensitivity about mental health
(31:57):
go, bitches?
I had a friend, honestly,honestly.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, michelle walked with me into science hill.
She acted like she wasn't partof our group when I went to go
return their chromebooks.
She said I just want to see ifI can get access.
So she stood behind me and shepressed the button and they let
her in and she stood there inthat lobby and was not greeted.
(32:23):
It was not.
Who the fuck are you and whyare you here?
Do you have a student that goeshere?
Not a word was said to her.
She's like I am flabbergastedthat I just was able to do what
I just did.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah I'm aware georgia doesn't know, yep, we
don't.
We don't have no metaldetectors in our school.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
No, there are no fences at our schools.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
My son's not even a person behind the front desk
standing at it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
They're asking you if you need something.
They do not have security.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They are soft targets and they continue to be soft
targets.
Now in Florida, when I was atSanta Lucia's they had they made
all these changes.
You know.
They fenced it all in.
There could only be oneentrance in, one entrance out.
And let me tell you, when wedid a yellow, a code yellow and
a code red, we took that shitLike people took that shit
seriously.
We just did a code yellow and acode red and I was like Are you
(33:19):
fucking kidding me?
This is a code red and a codeyellow.
Y'all are you know?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
and I even had a conversation Because in Florida
we know All students return toyour classrooms immediately.
All students return to yourclassrooms immediately.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We turn to your classrooms.
How about?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
all students go high.
That's what they fucking toldall the kids at Appalachee High
when it started.
They made an announcement overthe PA that told all the kids to
leave where they were and goback to their classroom.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, it's like just a complete like.
They have no idea the oppositeof everything you're supposed to
do.
Yeah, and I don't think like,and we just did a code yellow,
code red, and they did it duringthe change of class.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What, oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Are you kidding me?
You're going to initiate a codeyellow and a code red.
Code yellow at first, duringthe change of class, where
students are out of classroom,they don't really hear very much
, like what's going on.
It was a very, very confusing,you know.
And then the principal's like,yeah, well, we don't.
(34:30):
You know, we could do better.
On getting into the classroomafterwards, like most people
didn't even know Code Yellow washappening.
So it was, it was kind ofscrewed up, but it was screwed
up on the part of theadministrators.
And here's another thing, taylor, I just want to share with you,
because it's just happened onfriday, so there was supposed to
be a walkout, um, regarding gunviolence in schools, right?
(34:51):
So, yeah, I wanted to ask youabout, yeah, and there were.
So there are a lot of highschools who are doing it, right.
So they were going to do awalkout first thing in the
morning.
Well, thursday, towards the endof day, there was this very
loud and aggressive announcementby our principal that this is
how it has to go you have tocome to your first period class,
(35:15):
leave your things in your firstperiod class and then go to the
gym and you will be blah, blah,blah.
And the reason why is becauseattendance.
You see, attendance is the mostimportant thing, so they wanted
to make sure that the studentsparticipating.
So then the next morning, onFriday morning, right, you get
(35:35):
this another announcement andit's like, if you're
participating in this, you knowyou need to be in the gym.
No, you have to check in withyour class, and then you, you
have to be in the gym no laterthan 815.
And if you're not there by 815,then the door is closed and you
have to go back to class.
It was like this reallycontrolled thing, and so we all
(35:56):
got this notice.
It's like this is what's goingto happen.
You know, we got this email andit's so funny.
One line in the email said wewant this to unfold naturally,
and all of this.
And it's like, really you do,because you're saying, oh, if
we're going to control everyaspect every single aspect of
this protest of yours.
And you know, and I was tellinga colleague, it's like if you
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really really want to disrupt,then disrupt the attendance.
That's when they sit up,because that's their wallet.
If you really really want todisrupt, then disrupt the
attendance.
That's when they sit up,because that's their wallet?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yep, that's their wallet.
People pulling their kids outof the school.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Let me tell you they're freaked.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
People making sure their kids don't go?
Yeah.
When in the entire history ofyour teaching career have they
shut down an entire fuckingdistrict?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, it's nuts, have you ever seen that before now
no, I mean, you know, and Ithink about.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I think about a hurricane not for 9-11, not for
any of that what their responsewas in lake worth to uh, barry
gruno dying was uh, clearbackpacks, clear backpacks.
That was the solution that wasgoing to keep all of us safe.
Clear backpacks.
(37:10):
So you take all of our privacy,like you know for a middle
school girl, you've got yourtampon, yeah, but that's.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's crazy, because how many of the shooters
actually carry a gun in abackpack?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
nobody's putting their gun in a bag.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Most of them have just walked into the school with
a rifle hanging off of theirshoulder.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Uh or you know, or it's taken apart and it's in
their pants or whatever it is,but like, usually not in
backpacks and if they have, oneof my kids was just talking
about somebody in the bathroomwith a gun, talking about he was
going to shoot so and so andblah blah.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's not like they're not in school.
I understand that parents outthere.
In case you're wondering, no,there are guns already in your
kid's school yeah, there areguns, I assure you of that,
especially if you live in placeswhere gun laws are lax, and
especially if you live in aplace, like I live, where guns
are what's the word I'm lookingfor?
(38:11):
They are ubiquitous.
They are ubiquitous.
They are necessity for thesefolks.
They are, you know.
Second Amendment baby, I have aright to bear, not in school,
you don't, and it's just likethe kid in Georgia.
(38:34):
Don't fucking give your kid agun, oh, but you give them a gun
anyways.
Cool, this is how this shithappens.
It's just perpetuating.
Another one, another one,another one, because people love
guns around here and they lettheir teenage kids have guns
around here.
These kids are shooting deer,these kids are doing all of that
(38:55):
shit, wiping blood.
That's all everything thathappened with that kid in
Georgia.
That is normal here.
Normal, what do you mean?
All these high school kids aredoing that shit.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What do you mean, like hunting?
Yes, I think that there's a bigdifference between hunting and
shooting up kids and teachers.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
But if you live in a home where guns are already
honored in such a way, you knowhow to use them, because you
hunt yes, you've taken life, youknow, and you spend hours on
end playing video games whereyou're like you know, brutally
(39:37):
prepared to to go on the hunt.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know it wasn't until like the, the prairie days
, when everybody had to fend,you know, and they didn't have
like communities or whatever, um, like, like, like in native
culture.
You know you prepared to beable to go on the hunt.
It was a big honor.
There was a lot of educationthat went into it prior to you
(40:04):
being able to do that and sowhen you did that, it was an
honor, but you were honoringwhat you were doing as well it
makes me think of a sundance,because, and then the red rider
bb gun came out, you know andand you know people?
people had their kids outhunting for squirrels while
their husbands were in coalmines.
(40:25):
You know?
Yeah and it became a youngerthing, you know.
But throughout history, youknow you had to come of age to
join the hunt, you know inpretty much every culture.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yes, and they were expected to go through a rite of
passage yeah, like you had toearn that, men had to earn it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
We don't like the government took away this ritual
of doing a sun dance.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You know that the government took away this ritual
of doing a Sundance.
You know that the governmenttook away the right of Sundance
rituals because it was, it was,you know, savagery, but
essentially the rite of passagewas that, you know, I think it
was from sunup to sundown, to atree, um, and?
(41:16):
And the men had to live thatway for a certain amount of a
certain period of time for theirritual to be completed in order
for them to be honorable enoughto hunt with the men different
clans had to do different things.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, some had to go up, you know, up high on the
mountain, you know, and andconverse was serious, some'm had
to do peyote ceremonies.
I'm not to do, you know every,every clan was different.
But yeah, you had to go throughsome extreme tests and some
extreme control, self-controlbodily control mental control.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
But you know, this is , this is I I think that the
biggest issue because guns havebeen around, I mean, like kids
have had guns for a really longtime but the big issue is that
is our, is our mental healthamong young people it's like we.
We don't like we have our.
Our children are losing theirminds.
(42:09):
There's an incredible amount ofrage.
There's there's a lot of mentalhealth issues and you put a gun
into a crazy person's hand,they're going to do crazy things
and so, but I think when youdon't have those kinds of mental
health issues, then guns areused for what they're supposed
to be used for.
You want to, that's fine.
(42:30):
You want to have it to protectyour home?
That's fine, because I do.
I do think that there is valuein being able to like enoki, you
were in that situation recently.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know where you you needed to protect your home
and your child and your property, and so and I was glad that we
had a weapon, and I'm notagainst like taking all weapons
from from people, but I dobelieve that there's no fucking
reason for me to have an ak-47ever, unless we're in a time of
war.
And then at that point you knowthey should be divvied out
(43:03):
among the citizens to protectthemselves, you know, from that
same kind of weapon beingprovided you know, or being
being you know, in the, in thecommunity, but I don't think I
think.
I think like, like my uncle wason the bomb spot and stuff he's
got, like you know, he's got abazooka, like like what.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
What do we?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
need.
What do we need?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
what do you need?
A bazooka.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
You know well, you know that's he's educated and he
would never misuse that.
You know right, he would nevermisuse that privilege because he
had been educated it wasproperly trained, exactly you
know, but at the same time like,like, he doesn't really need it
(43:45):
, he's never really fired it,it's not a necessity.
You know other than swordswinging?
you know what I mean right, likeso, so like in in the situation
that I had, where I came homeand there was a man in my house
like that had a eight inch nailin his pocket, you know, like
that was definitely not foranything.
(44:07):
He was building.
You know, I'm, I'm 100 positivethat he had that for harming
someone or defending himself.
You know, I I'm, I'm 100positive that he had that for
harming someone or defendinghimself, you know, but we, we
did hold him to gunpoint and Idid, you know, make him empty
out his pockets and I did checkhim all out.
I made him throw away theliquor bottle that he had I, you
(44:29):
know, I I went through all thatand then I drove him to the
other end of town.
I got in a car with him, withouta weapon, and I drove him to
the other end of town anddropped him off.
You know, but, but if we didn'thave the weapon, you know, if I
didn't have my sister here withher gun, you know, then yeah,
and it could have gone a lotdifferent.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
You know, like do I feel like he would have?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
hurt me with that nail?
No, maybe he would have stabbedme.
Then it could have gone a lotdifferent.
You know like do I feel like hewould have hurt me with that
nail?
No, maybe he would have stabbedme, but nothing he could have
done to me would have hurt mebeyond my own repair you know,
and it wouldn't have beensomething that I couldn't push
through, you know, but because Ihad my son there and you know
mother lion instincts, you know,kick in, you know and, and, and
(45:14):
I'm sure that I would haveprotected my son and my home,
you know just fine, without it,but it was, it was a relief to
have that there and not worryabout it, you know.
But at the same time I didn'tneed to run out and get a rifle,
an automatic rifle, to defendhim from his, to defend me from
(45:35):
his nail.
You know what I mean.
Like, like I didn't know whathe had at first, you know.
So it was nice to have theweapon to, you know, see what he
had, you know, because heprobably wouldn't have emptied
his pockets, you know rightexactly and he probably would
have walked off.
He probably would have come backyou know and it did intimidate
(45:56):
him and let him know that wewere defended, right.
But but I didn't need an hk-47to do that.
She had a purse, a purse blocklike a little tiny purse 38, you
know I mean and that's all I'veever had as a weapon.
You know, I had a 22 and I had a38.
I did have a military issue umpulled out shotgun at one point,
(46:21):
but that was a shotgun whichcould be used for hunting and it
was just more compact so Icould fold it up, you know, and
and fire it with one hand.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
A hummingbird, yeah, I mean, I grew up learning how
to shoot clays and um, I washolding guns at a very young age
and shooting guns at a veryyoung age in loxahatchee.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
But I don't know, I'm not, I'm not a gun, was
reminding me that, that weshould, we should base our our
more love into our into ourconversation.
It literally just like buzzedinto my face.
He was like right here.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
He was like it's so funny and okay Because I have a.
I have a hummingbird at my feet, or at the same time.
No way.
Right outside my window.
Yeah, but I mean, same time, noway right outside my window.
yeah, yeah, but I mean I thinklike, yeah, I think we're living
in really confusing, um fearful, fearful times you know, very
suspicious and people are goingto respond to the that kind of
(47:24):
fear in different ways, and Ithink that, um be there, there
are a lot of people of all agesthat are kind of losing their
minds, and so we're dealing witha lot of that and really in
uncertain times, and so I thinkit's a lot to navigate.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Emotionally, spiritually, it's just a lot to
navigate I was discussing withmy kids the death of childhood
and how, you know, the suiciderates in teenagers are so high,
and I wanted to explain to themthat that everybody has some
sort of that feeling.
(48:07):
There is this process that yougo through during between
childhood and adulthood andthere's a part of you that has
(48:37):
to let go of that childhood inorder for you to move on that
feels so wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's like death.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's a form of death we all have to experience the
shaman death and it's a process,a rebirth of life in a new way
but those feelings are so rightit could be the most rewarding
experience too, you know,depending on how we live through
it, you know so yeah it'simportant to let them know.
(49:04):
You know, some things in life,some feelings that you have, may
may die, but they never go away.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
This new ones come about they just evolve they just
but it was important for me tosay that, like, you need to know
that these feelings are normal.
It's it's it's how we processthem, right, and the inaction,
(49:32):
not not the action of acting onthose feelings, right, um, but
but it's so important to to knowthat before you become an adult
, you're going to feel so manydifferent things, and I just
want to be a parent that allowsmy children to feel those
feelings and allows my childrento process those things and can
(49:52):
be a guardian to them while theydo those things, um, and just
kind of hold them up becauseyou'll get through it.
Yeah, um, we just got to bethere.
For these kids, man, thepresence is what really matters,
really matters.
(50:15):
It's all about our presence asadults, any, any, any youth that
you can reach out to do it.
They need us, they need us.
So, having my kids at home, um,they're done with school in like
three to four hours.
They, uh, I have them in anaccredited program that Anoki
helped me sign up for.
So anything outside of that, wewent and we've done a couple
(50:37):
field trips.
We went to the fossil site, sawwhere they're digging up the
fossils here, mastodons and wewent to the museum and we've
done things already in a weekand had you know more fun
figuring out how we were goingto navigate this together.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
It seems like such a big, worrisome thing.
And then, when you do it, it'slike every other thing you
realize, wow, we have the timeto be a family to go places, we
can move things around andthere's a pliability instead of
a conformity, you know, toeducating your kids at home with
(51:17):
yourself, you know and there'slots of programs and it's really
important to un-indoctrinatethem.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
So CJ was like I want to go get a job.
And I was like, full stop, Ijust pulled you out of a prison
system.
I am not about to then throwyou into another prison system
where you're going to work 30hours a week and lose all of
what I'm about to teach you.
I told the two big boys and Iit's not that I don't want them
(51:45):
to work, you can go work, butyou're not going to be working
30 hours a week.
I want them, the two bigs.
By the time PJ graduates, he'sgot a year and a half.
You guys need an LLC.
I'm going to buy you the LLC.
You're going to come up withyour own business or businesses.
You're going to give me startupcosts.
We're going to start yourbusiness Before you graduate
(52:09):
high school.
You're going to have a businessin your name In two years.
You don't like it?
Fucking sell it.
But in the interim of that,you're going to learn how to run
a business.
You're going to start a businessand you're going to navigate
that.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
What that feels like, because be an entrepreneur,
first, absolutely, and now yougot.
You have to, you have to createa website.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
You have to like you know even you before you commit
to other things, and otherpeople and other places.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
And you can still tap into the matrix.
But it's all in how you do it,as long as you have a lead that
can pull you back out.
You know what I mean.
Like we can tap in but we haveto be able to tap back out.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Right, right.
So, depending on what they like, what, what lights them up, you
know like what do they want todo?
What does Peyton want to do?
Does he want to do somethingwith gardening?
Does he want to do somethingwith food?
Does he want to do somethingwith lawn care?
Does he want to do somethingwith graphic art?
Does what does he want to do?
And then he can create.
(53:14):
You know, both of both yourboys can create a business
around a passion.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I just you know.
By the way, I just registeredmy my own little business in
Georgia, taylor.
I told you last week Patty'sCottage Kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Oh I love it.
Last week um patty's cottagekitchen oh I love it, you can
tap in for just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, exactly, listen , I'll follow your laws, but
just your cottage walls, youknow what I mean.
Like, yeah, there are ways todo both exactly exactly.
But yeah, I'm I'm reallyexcited.
I'm really excited for theopportunity for them to unschool
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
And back into the earth.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
And being sovereign, like you know.
What does that mean?
You know, to be sovereign youngmen, you know, is really,
really important.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
And learning financial literacy and that was
another thing I was discussingis really, really important and
learning financial literacy.
Like and that was another thingI was discussing it's like how
about we learn taxes today?
We're going to go pull taxes,we're going to go balance
checkbooks.
I'm going to give you $50.
This is the grocery store money.
Make this happen for a dinnermeal, you know what?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
here's another lesson the real lab.
Yeah, um know, I was thinking,you know, because I, I'm um, I
I'm setting it up and then I'mdoing all this r and d with like
the kinds of things that I'mgoing to offer at farmers
markets and stuff, but I wouldlike to, by next spring, figure
out how to also like to takemoney as payment, but also
(54:46):
crypto as payment, like I wantto.
I want to figure out.
Yeah, take, take crypto yeah, Ihaven't done it yet but it's
like I want that.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I want to figure out how to take yeah, take take
crypto.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I haven't done it yet , but it's like I want that
option.
I want people.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
We went to a coffee shop in Asheville that that
accepted crypto and it'sbecoming.
Listen, on the way toGreenville you can.
There's an ATM, a crypto ATMmachine at a little gas station
in Podunkville, like it's coming.
Yeah, it's coming, it's coming,yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
It's coming.
So those are the things that Iwant to learn how to do before I
actually go out to farmer'smarkets and start taking money.
It's like, well, I want to beable to do that.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I'm thinking about getting into a farmer's market
myself, If I can, while the boysare in school.
Now start getting some productsgoing.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Absolutely.
Get busy and what really reallymatters yeah, I'm all about the
farmer's markets and actuallythere's really this, this real
serious like tsunami ofawakening happening across the
country about food and aboutwhat's in our food, and people
(55:52):
are waking up, like everyone.
I taught you like I go to thisfarmer's market out in
Dawsonville, taylor, and that'sthe farmer's market I'll
probably start at and you know,and I get, I'm getting goat milk
.
I'm actually I'm in the processof making goat cheddar right
now, but, um, uh, you know, thewoman who who sells me the goat
milk was saying she can'tbelieve, like almost every
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person who comes up to herlittle booth at the farmer's
market, there are people who arewho have recently awakened to
the truth about our foods, tothe truth about, like, raw milk,
to the truth about, you know,like how we're kind of being
slowly poisoned you know, likehow we're kind of being slowly
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poisoned.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
well, it's really funny.
So being an herbalist hasbecome a fad, right?
Like where I live, everyone isan herbalist, everybody knows
and and it really pulled me outof it to think like I'm I'm not
a type to do what everybody does.
I love that.
I have that knowledge.
What I do with that knowledgeis for my future and my
children's survival.
There's a reason that I wantedthat knowledge in this lifetime
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Because when the world goes toshit tomorrow, I know the 2,000
plants that I can usemedicinally in my area Exactly
is that every day, there is awave of new people who need
somebody to be like hey, comehere, let me show you this, let
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me educate you on something.
Right, there's all thisinformation out here.
So my point is is there'salways a place for another
herbalist?
There's always a place forsomebody to come learn this
knowledge and and in the ways ofplant medicine, because people
need this knowledge.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
somebody wakes up for this knowledge, that's like in
2012 there was a really bigawakening spiritually you know
where people started acceptingmore things spiritually and it
was like for those of us thatwere already there you know it
was.
It was like you know, all right,is this becoming a fad?
(58:01):
You know, but you could tellthe people that were just
joining a fad and the peoplethat were really learning things
and me and patty were talkingabout earlier, you know, like,
like, when you can recognize andhave an intuition about what's
right or wrong or good or bad.
You know and and can practiceempathy in a way.
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You know that, that itdeciphers it for you.
You know, then you know who'swho's being uh lot lotty dotty
about it and who's like really apart of it and who's like
breathing it and being it, youknow like it reminds me of that
one yoga guy who used to get sonasty about his burger and we
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were like does he know that he'sa frog?
Speaker 3 (58:49):
he's like the chosen one.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
He said that he was like siphoning the sun into his
pineal gland.
Yeah, this guy hadn't eatenlike his whole life.
He's just been eating hisboogers from his from his brain.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
That sounds so disgusting, but you know I also
but along the lines of what youguys are talking about, I also
think that there's a big.
I think there's going to be abig return to the kitchen.
You know how people kind ofstepped out of the kitchen and a
lot of people's kitchens gotdusty because nobody was cooking
, and now I think if peoplereally want to take their own
(59:26):
health into their hands, they'regoing to have to go back into
the kitchen.
Yeah, grow it, make it.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
it, make it like you can't really buy anything from
the store.
That's not.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's not toxic you know, I mean and they put sugars
in everything and everythinglike this way.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Everybody is is is diabetic, you know like and and
I realized, you know likethere's not a lot beyond growing
my own stuff or, you know,going to a farm where I see it
come out of the dirt whatthey're using to fertilize it
yeah, to be able to, to do that,you know, and and it's tougher,
(01:00:05):
but you know what like, at theend of the day, I want to live.
You know, I don't want topoison myself and die yeah, and
we want to be healthy you know,we want to live.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
You know, I don't want to poison myself and die.
Yeah, and we want to be healthy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Diabetes.
You know we want to be healthyyou know, Tender gardens, lovely
Tender gardens.
Water your seeds.
This is a time of cultivatingall sorts of things whether it
be in the garden or in our mindor or in the lives of our
children.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I really want to work on a greenhouse here.
I want to get one of thoseclear greenhouses so that I can
grow all year, like I could inFlorida, you know.
Yeah, put some humidifiers inand you know, or a mister in it,
you know, that's justconstantly running you know and
some kind of a drip irrigationthat runs the water back to
(01:00:56):
where the pump is pumping forthe mister so that, so that I
could do that, because you know,anything outside of outside of
greenhouse farming is is alsobeing contaminated by the
chemtrails and all this stuffthat's going on, you know.
So that's going on, you know.
So it's like you gotta do ityourself, but you gotta do it
(01:01:17):
yourself in like a quarantinedway yeah, almost like.
Yeah, it's true yeah, you gottagrow your children at home you
gotta grow your food at home,you gotta.
You know watch what yourchickens are eating.
And you know watch.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You know who you're getting things from and how
they're growing and taking careof things yeah, yeah, yeah, you
have to safeguard everythingthat comes into your home
physically, emotionally,energetically, ethereally.
Yeah, so did you want to taylor?
I see you have your cards sowe're gonna, we're gonna do a
(01:01:56):
pull.
So this is we're looking for.
We're looking into um, we'relooking for the best guidance
for you know, the coming weeks.
What are the?
What are the cards want to tellus?
You've got the archetype cards.
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I'm feeling this guy right here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
All right, let's see it.
Wow, what is that?
The box.
I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Okay, I immediately think about Lauryn Hill.
I'll get out, I'll get out.
Of all your boxes I'll get out,I'll get out of all your boxes.
I'll get out.
I'll get out.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
All right so let's Google it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Okay, google it, it will.
It's a big one, she said.
Take off your bed and walk.
Okay, the box, because it'swhat we've not been speaking
about all morning being stuck inthis box, the cage, the rules,
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the norm.
We all live to some degreewithin the confines of the box.
This archetype representseverything that is known,
anticipated and expected.
It holds us in place whilesimultaneously hiding us back,
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holding us back from ourgreatest vision.
The box is sneaky, insidiousand everywhere, limiting us at
the most unconscious levels.
It is built of layer upon layerof social constructs and
pressures.
Breaking through its confinesrequires awareness, continued
effort and bravery.
The box may appear asexpectations from parents, a
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well-paying but heartless job,the pressure to look or behave
like others or to simply staysmall.
There is a box around you now,made of some type of confining
thought.
What is it?
The box shifts and morphs as wegrow.
This is part of itsmulti-layered nature.
(01:04:31):
Once you break through onelayer, another will present
itself to you.
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Whoa, your comfort zone will kill you Break through
An exquisite life requires it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Everything within the box is known.
Everything outside of the boxis unknown.
That is why it is morecomfortable to stay within its
walls.
Choose freedom.
Moving outside of the box isexhilarating and expansive, but
destabilizing.
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Others will wonder what you'redoing and why, and you will too.
This is part of the process.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so many boxes, yeah, so many boxes.
That's really perfect for rightnow, it really is, it really is
because you can say, oh, I don't, I don't want to, I want to
think outside the box or I wantto be outside the box and
whatever.
But just being a rebel is notenough, you know you, you have
(01:05:40):
to.
It requires a lot more effort.
Like being a rebel is justbeing reactive and stuff, but
it's not really.
There's not a lot of deepthought in it.
You really have to go deep andand uncover the layers of how
you have been kept in that box.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
It's not just being everybody to go listen to.
Um, I'll get out by lauren hillis the most symbolically uh
appropriate song for being in abox and how to get out of said
box, and just the way she wordsit in stating knowing my
(01:06:21):
condition is the reason I mustchange.
Highly recommend.
There, you go, get out of theboxes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Self-awareness, yes, self-awareness, self-awareness.
You know you can many manylayers, many layers, um, so that
is a lot of um food for thoughtfor this week.
Um, I think we've, you know,we've talked about a lot of
what's going on in our world andand with us, and, and I think
(01:06:55):
it's sobering times, you know,but there's also a tremendous
amount of hope, because I thinkwe should never underestimate
the power of human intention,and you know what we are, what
we're capable of.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
So Intention, intuition ability.
Like don't think you can't,don't say it's too tough or
what's gonna happen.
If something in your heart istelling you to do it, you need
to do it, you know don't fightthe flow of the river that
you're on you know, yeah, floatdown it and enjoy the current
(01:07:30):
and where it takes you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, beautiful, any last words Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Just be present Think about the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
man, you know, my last words every week are always
that I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I love you too.
All right, you guys have agreat week.
Yeah, this has been awesome.
Lots to think about and lots ofnourishment to carry us forward
, so always appreciate it.
Love you too.
Have a good day.
Bye, you guys.
Hello and welcome to our live stream.
This is Patti, with Patti TalksToo Much, and this live stream
was recorded on Sunday,september 22nd.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
A lot going on, a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
There's a lot going on.
We had this, we had the lunareclipse this past week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It wasn't just a lunar eclipse.
It was a blood moon, harvestmoon, super moon, on a lunar
eclipse that I feel likedeserves all the recognition of
its eight years long name.
In.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Pisces, I think, yeah , it definitely felt In Pisces
yeah.
Yeah, I mean it definitely.
Like I felt it the day before,like I wasn't it really um, it
seemed like it affected my sleep.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, like I was so sad because of the gray
weather.
I was not overcoming the grayweather really well.
Um, it was just gray, a littletoo long for my, my well-being,
yeah, but the next day it wasbeautiful and like the third day
of the full moon, because fullmoon cycles are usually three
(01:15):
days, and so like the very lastday of it, or whatever.
It was freaking it wasbeautiful.
The moon was still pretty.
Like I didn't get to see it onthe day of the eclipse because
of all the clouds and stuff, butthen it was.
It was amazing the next day andI had a really good day.
But I've been having weirddreams because I quit smoking
(01:37):
and, uh, they're just like allover the place.
You know, and then, I'm like Iwake up, you know, and I'm like
I don't want to do this, youknow, and I wake up and and uh,
and then I go right back to them.
You know, like so I'm like allright, I have to like change
this somehow you know, yeah,I've had that experience too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And, um, I don't generally remember my dreams,
but there are these moments whenI wake up where I remember, but
I don't write it down thesedays and so it's gone.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You know it's gone by the time I think about it never
, never remembered, like likeever.
But but since, like what'smoving, I would have crazy
dreams all the time.
My ADHD is like off the charts,if you haven't already noticed.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Well, you know the, but also I've been hearing that
the you know that theastrological aspects have also
been affecting people's dreams.
So people you know, likedifferent podcasts that I
listened to you know the woopodcast people have been talking
(02:45):
about like, wow, my dreams havebeen off the charts.
I'm dreaming more, I'mremembering more and they're
just really like these epicdreams.
I don't really know if I'm yeah, I don't know if I'm having
epic dreams.
I just know that I think I'mdreaming more and I drop into
dreams sooner.
Like you know, like I can Iwon't go right back to a dream.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You know what else is a really cool thing?
We have a temporary second moonright now.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's going to last for about two months.
It's an asteroid?
Yeah, I don't think so, but itstill has like a gravitational.
It depends on what kind of rockit's made out of.
You know, think about it if youthrew a giant quartz up into
the sky, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I don't think that's an asteroid.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think everything is .
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't think it's an asteroid no.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't think it's an asteroid.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't think it's a moon.
I think that it's a cover forsome kind of mother mothership,
a mothership yeah, I think it'sa mothership but I think that
they're, you know, oh yeah, well, I think that they're
technology they're there for areason and it's interesting that
they're close to the moon,because I've been saying for a
(04:01):
long time that moon isartificial, that moon doesn't
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean like we've, we've incorporated, I didn't see
the face on the moon and Ihadn't seen the face on the moon
and the moon had been coming upwhere it was supposed to come
up, where it wasn't coming up,where it was a lot of people for
the last, like four or fivemonths yep so maybe it.
Maybe it fixed it, maybe it waslike uh-uh, no, you're gonna
(04:25):
throw off the whole universefucking this moon up and it that
mothership, like went overthere and was like no, we're
gonna, we're gonna fix this yeah, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it's.
There have been a lot ofreports that the moon has not
been in the position it'ssupposed to be in recently, so
there's a lot of thingshappening with the moon I think
aliens are helpers, like like infifth element.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know how like they had the guardians that came
back, you know, and like shewas, like this super being that
was supposed to unlock theelemental power of the earth or
whatever.
Nobody really knows the likedeepness that that movie was.
You know everybody just thinksbecause it had that weird cyborg
guy, you know, as the bad guy,and bruce willis is like a dude
(05:11):
there they did.
They missed the big messagebehind it.
You know what I mean.
But there was basically that.
You know there are, there areguardians older than time, you
know that that aren't here onthe planet.
They come back, you know, andthey kind of reset things when
it gets too far out of balanceyeah, like maybe founder beings
(05:33):
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But I think, like there, I think that the
off-world beings are as diverseas humans.
So there are some that havenefarious intentions and there's
some that are benevolent.
And it's really too bad that somuch of it has been suppressed
because we're at a humanity's ata bit of a disadvantage,
(05:57):
because we're going to have tofigure out how to discern
between the two.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know, and and I honestly I think that's why
empathy is important, becauseempathy, you don't need language
, you know it is a language youknow so like if you can read the
energy of something going up toit, you know you're a lot safer
of an element.
You know, but like most peopleare just gonna have a heart
attack and freak out and youthink that we're all well,
(06:25):
that's just thing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If you're, if you're in a, if you're in a sphere
state because you'reencountering something you've
never encountered before, it'sreally hard to use accurate
discernment.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, and you don't know how to read it or feel
where it's going, or tell thedifference between something
that has good intent and badintent.
I think empathy is theimportant part.
You can walk up to an animal,you don't speak to an animal,
and you can tell if you haveempathy whether or not that's a
good animal to be around or agood moment for that animal.
(07:01):
Maybe it's normally a verydangerous animal, but it's
sharing this case with you andexchanging an energy through
empathy and and you can discernthat.
But most people block that out.
Yeah, live in a fear state andgo by what they're told instead
of what they want to experiencefor themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You know, yeah, using our own um you know, like our
own own abilities, yeah, our owninnate ability to kind of
figure this out.
We've been kind of taught notto you know, not not to trust it
, unfortunately yeah.
So it's interesting because youbring up empathy, and I, um a
fellow teacher shared this, umthis article with me this week
(07:47):
about how, um our young peopledon't read books anymore.
Like books are.
You know, like very few of ourlike teenagers will read a book,
even in school, like theteachers will just do excerpts,
you know, but they won'tactually do a book from cover to
cover.
And one of the things there area lot of things that young
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people lose when they don't reada book from cover to cover, but
one of them is empathy, becausewhen you read a book from cover
to cover, you develop arelationship with the characters
and you actually you get toempathy.
The word and emotions to theword you get to exercise your
empathy muscle and uh, andthat's one of the the few ways
(08:31):
that we get really funny.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
it's really funny that you say that uptick coming
in his head.
Um, it's really funny that yousay that because yesterday I
went to the salvationvation Armyand I bought like 34 books.
I bought like 34 books and Ifound some like cool, like I
don't know, like witchy books,like I don't know I wanted like
(08:55):
a cool you know a couple coolcollections.
I found this book called Wonderand it like seemed like it was
going gonna be a good book orwhatever you know, so I picked
it up.
And then I picked up some likebooks that looked like maybe
they were like teen witch booksor something like Blood Moon and
stuff, and I was like, wow,that's really cool because we
(09:18):
just had the Blood Moon, yeahyou know.
But like literally spent like20 bucks on quarter books at the
salvation army yeah that'sawesome generally around game
books too.
We found a couple of the what toexpect books too.
You know this is gonna be jen'sfirst go, you know, through
(09:41):
pregnancy or whatever it goes, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Um yeah, books are.
Books are awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I highly recommend and so there's no better decor
than books in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, they make the best decoration, you know?
I just I had this really a book.
I uh, yeah, okay.
So I had this.
Really, um, I don't even knowhow to describe this experience,
but like I have this, this umnew friend at work I know how to
(10:22):
describe it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's amazing too.
No, but going to talk about um.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It has read two of my three books, Right, and so the
first one I read was um,perilous and beautiful, and it
was so awkward, you know, likeshe's she's reading it and like
her room is across the hall fromme, and so it's kind of like
I'm on chapter and I was like ohgod, and I'd go home and look
oh my god, she's reading herheart she's not the one, that's
(10:51):
the one that's um and I, but youknow to have to to hear someone
respond to um, to my writingand to my book, because I
outside of your inner circleoutside
Speaker 2 (11:06):
of who you value their opinion, who's also an
educator in literature.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, more, more more educated than me and the thing
is like she not just in a vanoutside of your house, did she?
She had like really high praisefor my writing and, um, I
almost like didn't know how to.
I didn't know how to handle it.
It's not weird, I just didn't,you know you're awesome, you
(11:33):
know and and you can.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You can put faces to the, the characters in your
books and stuff, because youdescribe them really well and
you really put, put a put apersona to each person in there,
you know and and, and that'sgreat, it paints a picture for
people to be able to empathizeand relate and visualize as
(11:55):
they're reading.
You know, well, that was onething she said, that displaying
the full picture, yeah, thevisuals of it.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, so that was kind of, you know, I was like,
oh, okay, and then read um,wildflowers and present tenses,
which was the memoir, which isinteresting because a lot of the
stories in my memoir andwildflowers and present tenses
are kind of like the actualstory of what's happened.
(12:23):
And then you read, you read thefictionalized story and then
you read the actual story andthere's, you know, um, but it
was uh, it that.
So that was really quite, um,quite an experience for me and
it's, you know, and because it'salso everybody's excited for
the next book's drop everybody'sexcited for the next book yeah,
(12:45):
you've got a whole series going.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know I do.
Well, I have a whole.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I have a, um, a whole series I can't wait to see what
happens to.
Oh, the next, the next book inum after perilous and beautiful.
Well, there's also, you know,wild flowers is a series too.
So the third book in thatseries was supposed to be
wildflowers and laughing crones,and I was.
I was telling this friend ofmine at work that I feel like I
(13:11):
have to live into that morebecause it really sent me a
little a little bit of right.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's the one that you sent me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
A little bit there's still in it, right oh no, that
that would have been thecontinuation of the perilous and
beautiful.
That would have been the next,that would have been an excerpt
from the next book.
Okay, yeah.
So I've got, yeah, I've got,obviously, I've got a few irons
in the fire and it's figuringout, um, you know where I want
(13:43):
to, where I want to focus my, myenergy, and then there's like
the, the whole.
I find it really interestingthat the moon is coming up for a
lot of people right now,because I have that whole idea,
like that first story, thatstory that I wrote, that was the
love story and it had to dowith what, what happens, like
(14:04):
the backdrop of it, is that themoon has fallen away, and like
there are these people who arekind of living.
I love that one, yeah yeah, so Iwas going to do a series of
stories, um, that have to dowith um, what, what love looks
like, love stories after themoon has fallen away, because we
(14:24):
associate so much of likefalling in love with the moon.
But is it?
Is it really is it?
Is it really that helpful?
With love or um?
Is it more the sun?
So, uh, you know.
So anyway, I'm just um, I'mjust playing wrote a song um.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
it was called Paper Doll, but in the song part of
her chorus is like we're allwaiting to see what you do.
We're all what I think it's.
We're all waiting to see whatyou do.
You know like we are waiting tosee what you do.
Yeah and excited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And excited for what?
You do yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And excited, and excited for it.
Yeah, yeah, hey, taylor Goodmorning, good morning, I was
just responding.
Good morning Good morning, goodmorning.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
We've just been all over the place talking about the
moon, talking about, um, someof my granny talking about so
did you hear it?
Were you, did you hear it?
I know we didn't see you, butdid you hear any of what we were
talking about, taylor?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
yeah, I've been listening in and like laughing
while I made my coffee because Ioverslept.
It's per usual.
First of all, I don't know howI would be so nerve-wracking for
me to know that the personacross the hall or my co-worker
(15:58):
was reading my book.
It's a little nerve-wracking.
We're talking her into it.
We're not talking her out of itand you're like I'm at chapter
four and I'm like oh shit,that's a little, we're talking
her into it and you're like I'mat chapter four and I'm like, oh
shit, that's a chapter with dad.
Fuck, I have daddy issues now.
I'm like that's hard.
(16:18):
It's really cool to be openbecause people accept you for
who you are and you know, andshe's getting her best.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Reviews that are from an actual colleague that she
respects, which is exciting,yeah, which is yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So it's kind of, yeah , it's all really really
interesting.
So I think I'm I'm kind ofgetting a little closer to
finishing, like diving back into, you know, getting some more
writing done.
I've been, you know, so busy inthe kitchen doing all this
other stuff, but I can find timefor I can be good for you, I'm
(16:59):
excited to hear.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, cooking and nurturing by day and then
writing and inspiring by night,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, and teaching at a.
You know, teaching in a crazy,not for long, not for long.
Yeah, probably not, probablynot.
I don't know, I don't know, areyou right, the eclipse,
whatever that was.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I made everybody run outside.
I was like everybody stopeverything you're doing and go
outside and watch the eclipse.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh, you could see it we couldn't see it it rained for
three days.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That was the final day.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That room was intense .
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Wow, wow.
That was the final day.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
that was intense like wow, wow, I don't, I don't, um,
yeah, yeah, I'm an emotionalmess like I'll just blame the
moon, fine yeah, so I'm, I hadmy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
My sleep was off for a few days.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh, my goodness, I know it's so funny the day of
the full moon, eclipse, right?
So the night before the nightbefore the eclipse I'm I don't
know if I slept at all, I meanlike I really had a hard time
falling asleep, right?
So I'm sitting in this meeting,this effing meeting, Towards
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the end of the day.
It's just one of those, I'msorry, mindless, stupid weekly
meetings of whatever wherepeople stand up in front of the
class and masturbate on uh,whatever new, um pedagogical
bullshit that they're just thatthey've discovered or that we
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should be following, whateverright.
And at one point and you knowhow, I show everything on my
face, right?
So at one point she looks at meand she says are you okay?
And I was like yeah, I'm prettytired.
No, this is fucking painful forme, no but, you know what no but
you know what I said.
So I said I'm pretty tired andI don't like meetings it was a
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teacher meeting to clarifyFuture meeting, oh God.
But you know what the thing isis since then she has been like
she has made it clear in herbody language and everything
that she just doesn't have, likeshe's not happy with me.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
She really was and you upset her.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I know I upset her poor little educator ego, yeah,
oh God.
But at any rate that's just.
You know, so I'm kind of, andthen you know and so, and then I
have that experience and Ithink maybe you really do need
to get out before they kick youout because your attitude is
starting to really show.
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So I don't know, I don't know,so we'll, we'll see.
I was telling a Nokia I appliedto this online tutor thing that
you can do.
I told my boys out of school Iknow, let's hear all about that,
I mean told me and I was sohappy.
Yeah.
I know he said well, taylortook her kids out of school.
I said what?
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But that's all I know, so let'shear it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Literally all.
That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That's it.
That's all there is to thestory.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, they had a Taylor.
You're muted.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You're muted.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I'm on that weird screen on that weird screen
where the church is in, and mydogs are barking at every church
door with the bible oh okay, ohall right, but so anyways, yeah
, so I didn't, I didn't hear thewhole story, but yeah, yeah,
let's hear it.
It was a really stressfulmorning.
I woke up to a text messagefrom a friend that was an image.
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It ended up being a Googlestock image.
However, where I live, there isone high school in our city,
one.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You don't have options.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
The next time I'm over it.
Over there is one high schoolnow.
You all know how I feel aboutschool shootings.
I've made it very clear I lived.
I lived through one oh yeah, oh, yeah I have my very strong
opinions about these types ofthings um and the prevention of
such.
That morning, um, I got thisstock, it was.
(21:53):
It was.
All I saw was this image and itwas ar-15s and handguns laid
out on the bed and it said to aspecific school such and you are
next.
It is the next town, over thesister high school, the closest
high school to our high school,and they shut down the whole
county.
They shut down not the county,but the schools in that district
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.
They shut down Whole districts.
I have a big problem.
My kids are getting ready forschool.
What am I supposed to do?
I'm like well, all right, getdressed, let's go now.
My kids are already emotional.
My kids have already seen thisshit on the internet.
It's not like they didn't seeit before.
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I saw it right.
So they tell me what they saw.
Now I'm upset.
I have a co-worker call me myco-worker from from work.
Our kids go to the same highschool.
She calls me and she's likeTaylor.
My kid is having a panic attack.
He doesn't want to go today.
I don't know what to do.
This is terrible.
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There is more of a policepresence.
I've just read that there'smore of a police presence, that
they've pulled police fromcounties out of Virginia that
are the most podunk, anyways.
So they've got all of theseextra police and they go to get
out of the car.
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I'm still on the phone with myfriend who's like, yeah, I just
dropped him off.
He's so worried and I'm like,all right, I love.
Who's like, yeah, I justdropped him off.
He's so worried and I'm like,all right, I love you.
Bye, we get out of the car.
And I looked in the rearviewmirror.
When I looked in the rearviewmirror, all I could see was
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Peyton standing there becominghysterical, and as he stood
there and I watched tears startto run down his face you had
already dropped him off Isnapped Yep, they were out of
breath, they were on thesidewalk.
I snapped, I threw my car intopark and I was like get back in
the car, we're done, I'm done.
Get back in the car, we're done, this is it, I'm done.
Get back in the car.
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I went home and I signed themup for homeschool and I called
the farm school and they werewithdrawn the same day.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They were what.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Withdrawn the same day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I didn't hear.
Did you hear what she said?
They were withdrawn on the sameday.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yep, she withdrew them, and they were withdrawn on
the same day.
We found all the forms that weneeded to withdraw them and the
decoration of the homeschoolDone deal.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And you know what, taylor, you know you're not the
only one.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm not allowing the system.
I'm not.
I refuse to allow the system tobreak my children.
Yes, the last straw for me.
Yeah, it turns out that it wasthe same kind of scenario that
you all had play out in georgiain georgia.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, it's like a network.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It was a network of children.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's what they said they had done a Google stock.
You know it was a Google stockimage, but again in my mind, you
have to understand the way thatI think.
I think look where I live.
There is one high school welive in a place that is
indoctrinated by old headwaysand religious beliefs and racist
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bigotry bullshit.
This place is.
These high school students hereare super conservative and oh
my God.
I like your green door.
If I could finish, a thought,super conservative and just it's
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really for my kids who comefrom a multicultural, open gay
welcoming.
We come from a different place,so my open gay welcoming we
come from a different place, somy kids don't necessarily melt
into this soup the same way.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The country is beautiful, but everything is
different is stuck.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's like we're so many people here are decades
behind in in the progressivenessof of thought.
I don't know how to explain it,but not my kids, not anymore.
So that same day, uh, somebodypulled a fire alarm they ended
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up.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
That's not cool imagine that's not cool then
they wait.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
No, it gets better.
The principal sends out.
This is the same day that Ipull them out of school.
I would have still been comingto get my kids early because my
kids would have had a panicattack.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Somebody sets off a fire alarm.
Yeah, but when they set off thefire alarm, the principal sends
a letter out like a real timeemail that says we're so sorry.
It must've been the dust.
There was dust on the, on thepulley, and so it it triggered
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the alarm oh my gosh, you gottabe kidding me, man here, buddy.
Uh, they still had so manypeople in the office picking up
their kid that when my friendwent back to pick up her son,
who had the panic attack in themorning, was like I can't do
this, come get me.
The fire alarm went off.
I'm hearing popping noises.
She gets to the school to pickup her kid and the office is
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full of parents and they are.
They are arguing with parentsabout removing their children.
Well, your kid is faith.
She's like my kid will get inthe car now.
You can go get get my kid now.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Get my kid, call my kid down.
I'm signing my kid out.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now it was really funny because within an hour of
them getting my withdrawalnotice, I got a phone call from
the high school and they werelike we don't need any of your
records until you return ourChromebooks and I'm like, say
less, I'm in the car, I'm on myway, baby, is there anything
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else?
Library books Y'all got feesthat I owe.
What's up?
Because there's one thing,hello, there's one thing.
I know Y'all don't want my kidsto leave because their test
scores make y'all look good.
Okay, so you lose that now.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I was just really big mad about it.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You do not need to be outside well, this is what I
you know and I've been.
I've been talking about thisand I've been hearing other
people talking about how, um,our, our high schools are are
going to like.
I've heard this from severalsources.
Don't be surprised if the highschools go remote this year.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think, I think all of them, I think, I think
they're even junior high andelementary Maybe because the
statistics for arrest in Georgiathis month or whatever for this
particular scenario are 10 and12 and 13 year olds.
Two, like the majority of thekids that they arrested for
making threats, were in middleschool.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We're not talking about high schoolers.
I again, middle school, middleschool.
We're getting guns, we'rebringing them to school, we're
shooting teachers.
I I was telling my friend fromNew York that at Lake Worth
middle school I think middleschool is the least stable time
of all of my life.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, I'd agree with you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's the trauma of me having to live through the fact
that the girl that I lived withthat I called my sister that
was in the classroom.
I got firsthand accounts shewatched it happen.
I got firsthand accounts shewatched it happen.
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I lived with that and her PTSDfrom that for years.
Right.
But following that school yearafter Barry Grinnell was shot in
his classroom, I then was inthat classroom the next year.
They didn't shut the classroomdown, they didn't make it so
nobody ever had it.
They didn't make it a memorial.
No, they continued to make it aclassroom.
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They put a picture over thebullet holes.
It wasn't even in a frame.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It was just a poster.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, I had to then walk into that classroom and sit
there every day and I amspiritually hypersensitive so
I'd be in the middle of a testand just feel Mr Grunow around
me and absolutely lose it.
I couldn't walk through thethreshold of the door.
I would step over it because Iknew exactly how his body laid.
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But my friend was like the factthat they kept that classroom
open and just expected people toforget what the fuck happened
and go on like the perpetuationof ignorance.
It blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know and like the lack of empathy the lack of
being sensitive you know, like,oh, we don't have to be, you
know, know, we don't have totake in consideration the impact
you know that this has on kidsand you know the thing is, it's
like they teach sensitivity,like you know where we spend an
awful lot of time, you know, um,talking about the mental health
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of our, of our youth, now, youknow, and yet they're going to
stand at that counter and arguewith parents who are pulling
their, their kids, out becausethey're having panic attacks
because of the unsafety of theschool, and it's like, oh no,
they're safe.
Oh well, where did all yoursensitivity about mental health
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go, bitches?
I had a friend, honestly,honestly.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, michelle walked with me into science hill.
She acted like she wasn't partof our group when I went to go
return their chromebooks.
She said I just want to see ifI can get access.
So she stood behind me and shepressed the button and they let
her in and she stood there inthat lobby and was not greeted.
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It was not.
Who the fuck are you and whyare you here?
Do you have a student that goeshere?
Not a word was said to her.
She's like I am flabbergastedthat I just was able to do what
I just did.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah I'm aware georgia doesn't know, yep, we
don't.
We don't have no metaldetectors in our school.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
No, there are no fences at our schools.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
My son's not even a person behind the front desk
standing at it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
They're asking you if you need something.
They do not have security.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They are soft targets and they continue to be soft
targets.
Now in Florida, when I was atSanta Lucia's they had they made
all these changes.
You know.
They fenced it all in.
There could only be oneentrance in, one entrance out.
And let me tell you, when wedid a yellow, a code yellow and
a code red, we took that shitLike people took that shit
seriously.
We just did a code yellow and acode red and I was like Are you
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fucking kidding me?
This is a code red and a codeyellow.
Y'all are you know?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
and I even had a conversation Because in Florida
we know All students return toyour classrooms immediately.
All students return to yourclassrooms immediately.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We turn to your classrooms.
How about?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
all students go high.
That's what they fucking toldall the kids at Appalachee High
when it started.
They made an announcement overthe PA that told all the kids to
leave where they were and goback to their classroom.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, it's like just a complete like.
They have no idea the oppositeof everything you're supposed to
do.
Yeah, and I don't think like,and we just did a code yellow,
code red, and they did it duringthe change of class.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What, oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Are you kidding me?
You're going to initiate a codeyellow and a code red.
Code yellow at first, duringthe change of class, where
students are out of classroom,they don't really hear very much
, like what's going on.
It was a very, very confusing,you know.
And then the principal's like,yeah, well, we don't.
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You know, we could do better.
On getting into the classroomafterwards, like most people
didn't even know Code Yellow washappening.
So it was, it was kind ofscrewed up, but it was screwed
up on the part of theadministrators.
And here's another thing, taylor, I just want to share with you,
because it's just happened onfriday, so there was supposed to
be a walkout, um, regarding gunviolence in schools, right?
(34:51):
So, yeah, I wanted to ask youabout, yeah, and there were.
So there are a lot of highschools who are doing it, right.
So they were going to do awalkout first thing in the
morning.
Well, thursday, towards the endof day, there was this very
loud and aggressive announcementby our principal that this is
how it has to go you have tocome to your first period class,
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leave your things in your firstperiod class and then go to the
gym and you will be blah, blah,blah.
And the reason why is becauseattendance.
You see, attendance is the mostimportant thing, so they wanted
to make sure that the studentsparticipating.
So then the next morning, onFriday morning, right, you get
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this another announcement andit's like, if you're
participating in this, you knowyou need to be in the gym.
No, you have to check in withyour class, and then you, you
have to be in the gym no laterthan 815.
And if you're not there by 815,then the door is closed and you
have to go back to class.
It was like this reallycontrolled thing, and so we all
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got this notice.
It's like this is what's goingto happen.
You know, we got this email andit's so funny.
One line in the email said wewant this to unfold naturally,
and all of this.
And it's like, really you do,because you're saying, oh, if
we're going to control everyaspect every single aspect of
this protest of yours.
And you know, and I was tellinga colleague, it's like if you
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really really want to disrupt,then disrupt the attendance.
That's when they sit up,because that's their wallet.
If you really really want todisrupt, then disrupt the
attendance.
That's when they sit up,because that's their wallet?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yep, that's their wallet.
People pulling their kids outof the school.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Let me tell you they're freaked.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
People making sure their kids don't go?
Yeah.
When in the entire history ofyour teaching career have they
shut down an entire fuckingdistrict?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, it's nuts, have you ever seen that before now
no, I mean, you know, and Ithink about.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I think about a hurricane not for 9-11, not for
any of that what their responsewas in lake worth to uh, barry
gruno dying was uh, clearbackpacks, clear backpacks.
That was the solution that wasgoing to keep all of us safe.
Clear backpacks.
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So you take all of our privacy,like you know for a middle
school girl, you've got yourtampon, yeah, but that's.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's crazy, because how many of the shooters
actually carry a gun in abackpack?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
nobody's putting their gun in a bag.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Most of them have just walked into the school with
a rifle hanging off of theirshoulder.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Uh or you know, or it's taken apart and it's in
their pants or whatever it is,but like, usually not in
backpacks and if they have, oneof my kids was just talking
about somebody in the bathroomwith a gun, talking about he was
going to shoot so and so andblah blah.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's not like they're not in school.
I understand that parents outthere.
In case you're wondering, no,there are guns already in your
kid's school yeah, there areguns, I assure you of that,
especially if you live in placeswhere gun laws are lax, and
especially if you live in aplace, like I live, where guns
are what's the word I'm lookingfor?
(38:11):
They are ubiquitous.
They are ubiquitous.
They are necessity for thesefolks.
They are, you know.
Second Amendment baby, I have aright to bear, not in school,
you don't, and it's just likethe kid in Georgia.
(38:34):
Don't fucking give your kid agun, oh, but you give them a gun
anyways.
Cool, this is how this shithappens.
It's just perpetuating.
Another one, another one,another one, because people love
guns around here and they lettheir teenage kids have guns
around here.
These kids are shooting deer,these kids are doing all of that
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shit, wiping blood.
That's all everything thathappened with that kid in
Georgia.
That is normal here.
Normal, what do you mean?
All these high school kids aredoing that shit.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What do you mean, like hunting?
Yes, I think that there's a bigdifference between hunting and
shooting up kids and teachers.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
But if you live in a home where guns are already
honored in such a way, you knowhow to use them, because you
hunt yes, you've taken life, youknow, and you spend hours on
end playing video games whereyou're like you know, brutally
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prepared to to go on the hunt.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know it wasn't until like the, the prairie days
, when everybody had to fend,you know, and they didn't have
like communities or whatever, um, like, like, like in native
culture.
You know you prepared to beable to go on the hunt.
It was a big honor.
There was a lot of educationthat went into it prior to you
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being able to do that and sowhen you did that, it was an
honor, but you were honoringwhat you were doing as well it
makes me think of a sundance,because, and then the red rider
bb gun came out, you know andand you know people?
people had their kids outhunting for squirrels while
their husbands were in coalmines.
(40:25):
You know?
Yeah and it became a youngerthing, you know.
But throughout history, youknow you had to come of age to
join the hunt, you know inpretty much every culture.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yes, and they were expected to go through a rite of
passage yeah, like you had toearn that, men had to earn it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
We don't like the government took away this ritual
of doing a sun dance.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You know that the government took away this ritual
of doing a Sundance.
You know that the governmenttook away the right of Sundance
rituals because it was, it was,you know, savagery, but
essentially the rite of passagewas that, you know, I think it
was from sunup to sundown, to atree, um, and?
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And the men had to live thatway for a certain amount of a
certain period of time for theirritual to be completed in order
for them to be honorable enoughto hunt with the men different
clans had to do different things.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, some had to go up, you know, up high on the
mountain, you know, and andconverse was serious, some'm had
to do peyote ceremonies.
I'm not to do, you know every,every clan was different.
But yeah, you had to go throughsome extreme tests and some
extreme control, self-controlbodily control mental control.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
But you know, this is , this is I I think that the
biggest issue because guns havebeen around, I mean, like kids
have had guns for a really longtime but the big issue is that
is our, is our mental healthamong young people it's like we.
We don't like we have our.
Our children are losing theirminds.
(42:09):
There's an incredible amount ofrage.
There's there's a lot of mentalhealth issues and you put a gun
into a crazy person's hand,they're going to do crazy things
and so, but I think when youdon't have those kinds of mental
health issues, then guns areused for what they're supposed
to be used for.
You want to, that's fine.
(42:30):
You want to have it to protectyour home?
That's fine, because I do.
I do think that there is valuein being able to like enoki, you
were in that situation recently.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know where you you needed to protect your home
and your child and your property, and so and I was glad that we
had a weapon, and I'm notagainst like taking all weapons
from from people, but I dobelieve that there's no fucking
reason for me to have an ak-47ever, unless we're in a time of
war.
And then at that point you knowthey should be divvied out
(43:03):
among the citizens to protectthemselves, you know, from that
same kind of weapon beingprovided you know, or being
being you know, in the, in thecommunity, but I don't think I
think.
I think like, like my uncle wason the bomb spot and stuff he's
got, like you know, he's got abazooka, like like what.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
What do we?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
need.
What do we need?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
what do you need?
A bazooka.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
You know well, you know that's he's educated and he
would never misuse that.
You know right, he would nevermisuse that privilege because he
had been educated it wasproperly trained, exactly you
know, but at the same time like,like, he doesn't really need it
(43:45):
, he's never really fired it,it's not a necessity.
You know other than swordswinging?
you know what I mean right, likeso, so like in in the situation
that I had, where I came homeand there was a man in my house
like that had a eight inch nailin his pocket, you know, like
that was definitely not foranything.
(44:07):
He was building.
You know, I'm, I'm 100 positivethat he had that for harming
someone or defending himself.
You know, I I'm, I'm 100positive that he had that for
harming someone or defendinghimself, you know, but we, we
did hold him to gunpoint and Idid, you know, make him empty
out his pockets and I did checkhim all out.
I made him throw away theliquor bottle that he had I, you
(44:29):
know, I I went through all thatand then I drove him to the
other end of town.
I got in a car with him, withouta weapon, and I drove him to
the other end of town anddropped him off.
You know, but, but if we didn'thave the weapon, you know, if I
didn't have my sister here withher gun, you know, then yeah,
and it could have gone a lotdifferent.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
You know, like do I feel like he would have?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
hurt me with that nail?
No, maybe he would have stabbedme.
Then it could have gone a lotdifferent.
You know like do I feel like hewould have hurt me with that
nail?
No, maybe he would have stabbedme, but nothing he could have
done to me would have hurt mebeyond my own repair you know,
and it wouldn't have beensomething that I couldn't push
through, you know, but because Ihad my son there and you know
mother lion instincts, you know,kick in, you know and, and, and
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I'm sure that I would haveprotected my son and my home,
you know just fine, without it,but it was, it was a relief to
have that there and not worryabout it, you know.
But at the same time I didn'tneed to run out and get a rifle,
an automatic rifle, to defendhim from his, to defend me from
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his nail.
You know what I mean.
Like, like I didn't know whathe had at first, you know.
So it was nice to have theweapon to, you know, see what he
had, you know, because heprobably wouldn't have emptied
his pockets, you know rightexactly and he probably would
have walked off.
He probably would have come backyou know and it did intimidate
(45:56):
him and let him know that wewere defended, right.
But but I didn't need an hk-47to do that.
She had a purse, a purse blocklike a little tiny purse 38, you
know I mean and that's all I'veever had as a weapon.
You know, I had a 22 and I had a38.
I did have a military issue umpulled out shotgun at one point,
(46:21):
but that was a shotgun whichcould be used for hunting and it
was just more compact so Icould fold it up, you know, and
and fire it with one hand.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
A hummingbird, yeah, I mean, I grew up learning how
to shoot clays and um, I washolding guns at a very young age
and shooting guns at a veryyoung age in loxahatchee.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
But I don't know, I'm not, I'm not a gun, was
reminding me that, that weshould, we should base our our
more love into our into ourconversation.
It literally just like buzzedinto my face.
He was like right here.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
He was like it's so funny and okay Because I have a.
I have a hummingbird at my feet, or at the same time.
No way.
Right outside my window.
Yeah, but I mean, same time, noway right outside my window.
yeah, yeah, but I mean I thinklike, yeah, I think we're living
in really confusing, um fearful, fearful times you know, very
suspicious and people are goingto respond to the that kind of
(47:24):
fear in different ways, and Ithink that, um be there, there
are a lot of people of all agesthat are kind of losing their
minds, and so we're dealing witha lot of that and really in
uncertain times, and so I thinkit's a lot to navigate.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Emotionally, spiritually, it's just a lot to
navigate I was discussing withmy kids the death of childhood
and how, you know, the suiciderates in teenagers are so high,
and I wanted to explain to themthat that everybody has some
sort of that feeling.
(48:07):
There is this process that yougo through during between
childhood and adulthood andthere's a part of you that has
(48:37):
to let go of that childhood inorder for you to move on that
feels so wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's like death.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's a form of death we all have to experience the
shaman death and it's a process,a rebirth of life in a new way
but those feelings are so rightit could be the most rewarding
experience too, you know,depending on how we live through
it, you know so yeah it'simportant to let them know.
(49:04):
You know, some things in life,some feelings that you have, may
may die, but they never go away.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
This new ones come about they just evolve they just
but it was important for me tosay that, like, you need to know
that these feelings are normal.
It's it's it's how we processthem, right, and the inaction,
(49:32):
not not the action of acting onthose feelings, right, um, but
but it's so important to to knowthat before you become an adult
, you're going to feel so manydifferent things, and I just
want to be a parent that allowsmy children to feel those
feelings and allows my childrento process those things and can
(49:52):
be a guardian to them while theydo those things, um, and just
kind of hold them up becauseyou'll get through it.
Yeah, um, we just got to bethere.
For these kids, man, thepresence is what really matters,
really matters.
(50:15):
It's all about our presence asadults, any, any, any youth that
you can reach out to do it.
They need us, they need us.
So, having my kids at home, um,they're done with school in like
three to four hours.
They, uh, I have them in anaccredited program that Anoki
helped me sign up for.
So anything outside of that, wewent and we've done a couple
(50:37):
field trips.
We went to the fossil site, sawwhere they're digging up the
fossils here, mastodons and wewent to the museum and we've
done things already in a weekand had you know more fun
figuring out how we were goingto navigate this together.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
It seems like such a big, worrisome thing.
And then, when you do it, it'slike every other thing you
realize, wow, we have the timeto be a family to go places, we
can move things around andthere's a pliability instead of
a conformity, you know, toeducating your kids at home with
(51:17):
yourself, you know and there'slots of programs and it's really
important to un-indoctrinatethem.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
So CJ was like I want to go get a job.
And I was like, full stop, Ijust pulled you out of a prison
system.
I am not about to then throwyou into another prison system
where you're going to work 30hours a week and lose all of
what I'm about to teach you.
I told the two big boys and Iit's not that I don't want them
(51:45):
to work, you can go work, butyou're not going to be working
30 hours a week.
I want them, the two bigs.
By the time PJ graduates, he'sgot a year and a half.
You guys need an LLC.
I'm going to buy you the LLC.
You're going to come up withyour own business or businesses.
You're going to give me startupcosts.
We're going to start yourbusiness Before you graduate
(52:09):
high school.
You're going to have a businessin your name In two years.
You don't like it?
Fucking sell it.
But in the interim of that,you're going to learn how to run
a business.
You're going to start a businessand you're going to navigate
that.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
What that feels like, because be an entrepreneur,
first, absolutely, and now yougot.
You have to, you have to createa website.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
You have to like you know even you before you commit
to other things, and otherpeople and other places.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
And you can still tap into the matrix.
But it's all in how you do it,as long as you have a lead that
can pull you back out.
You know what I mean.
Like we can tap in but we haveto be able to tap back out.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Right, right.
So, depending on what they like, what, what lights them up, you
know like what do they want todo?
What does Peyton want to do?
Does he want to do somethingwith gardening?
Does he want to do somethingwith food?
Does he want to do somethingwith lawn care?
Does he want to do somethingwith graphic art?
Does what does he want to do?
And then he can create.
(53:14):
You know, both of both yourboys can create a business
around a passion.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I just you know.
By the way, I just registeredmy my own little business in
Georgia, taylor.
I told you last week Patty'sCottage Kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Oh I love it.
Last week um patty's cottagekitchen oh I love it, you can
tap in for just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, exactly, listen , I'll follow your laws, but
just your cottage walls, youknow what I mean.
Like, yeah, there are ways todo both exactly exactly.
But yeah, I'm I'm reallyexcited.
I'm really excited for theopportunity for them to unschool
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
And back into the earth.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
And being sovereign, like you know.
What does that mean?
You know, to be sovereign youngmen, you know, is really,
really important.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
And learning financial literacy and that was
another thing I was discussingis really, really important and
learning financial literacy.
Like and that was another thingI was discussing it's like how
about we learn taxes today?
We're going to go pull taxes,we're going to go balance
checkbooks.
I'm going to give you $50.
This is the grocery store money.
Make this happen for a dinnermeal, you know what?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
here's another lesson the real lab.
Yeah, um know, I was thinking,you know, because I, I'm um, I
I'm setting it up and then I'mdoing all this r and d with like
the kinds of things that I'mgoing to offer at farmers
markets and stuff, but I wouldlike to, by next spring, figure
out how to also like to takemoney as payment, but also
(54:46):
crypto as payment, like I wantto.
I want to figure out.
Yeah, take, take crypto yeah, Ihaven't done it yet but it's
like I want that.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I want to figure out how to take yeah, take take
crypto.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I haven't done it yet , but it's like I want that
option.
I want people.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
We went to a coffee shop in Asheville that that
accepted crypto and it'sbecoming.
Listen, on the way toGreenville you can.
There's an ATM, a crypto ATMmachine at a little gas station
in Podunkville, like it's coming.
Yeah, it's coming, it's coming,yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
It's coming.
So those are the things that Iwant to learn how to do before I
actually go out to farmer'smarkets and start taking money.
It's like, well, I want to beable to do that.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I'm thinking about getting into a farmer's market
myself, If I can, while the boysare in school.
Now start getting some productsgoing.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Absolutely.
Get busy and what really reallymatters yeah, I'm all about the
farmer's markets and actuallythere's really this, this real
serious like tsunami ofawakening happening across the
country about food and aboutwhat's in our food, and people
(55:52):
are waking up, like everyone.
I taught you like I go to thisfarmer's market out in
Dawsonville, taylor, and that'sthe farmer's market I'll
probably start at and you know,and I get, I'm getting goat milk
.
I'm actually I'm in the processof making goat cheddar right
now, but, um, uh, you know, thewoman who who sells me the goat
milk was saying she can'tbelieve, like almost every
(56:14):
person who comes up to herlittle booth at the farmer's
market, there are people who arewho have recently awakened to
the truth about our foods, tothe truth about, like, raw milk,
to the truth about, you know,like how we're kind of being
slowly poisoned you know, likehow we're kind of being slowly
(56:36):
poisoned.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
well, it's really funny.
So being an herbalist hasbecome a fad, right?
Like where I live, everyone isan herbalist, everybody knows
and and it really pulled me outof it to think like I'm I'm not
a type to do what everybody does.
I love that.
I have that knowledge.
What I do with that knowledgeis for my future and my
children's survival.
There's a reason that I wantedthat knowledge in this lifetime
(56:57):
Because when the world goes toshit tomorrow, I know the 2,000
plants that I can usemedicinally in my area Exactly
is that every day, there is awave of new people who need
somebody to be like hey, comehere, let me show you this, let
(57:20):
me educate you on something.
Right, there's all thisinformation out here.
So my point is is there'salways a place for another
herbalist?
There's always a place forsomebody to come learn this
knowledge and and in the ways ofplant medicine, because people
need this knowledge.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
somebody wakes up for this knowledge, that's like in
2012 there was a really bigawakening spiritually you know
where people started acceptingmore things spiritually and it
was like for those of us thatwere already there you know it
was.
It was like you know, all right,is this becoming a fad?
(58:01):
You know, but you could tellthe people that were just
joining a fad and the peoplethat were really learning things
and me and patty were talkingabout earlier, you know, like,
like, when you can recognize andhave an intuition about what's
right or wrong or good or bad.
You know and and can practiceempathy in a way.
(58:21):
You know that, that itdeciphers it for you.
You know, then you know who'swho's being uh lot lotty dotty
about it and who's like really apart of it and who's like
breathing it and being it, youknow like it reminds me of that
one yoga guy who used to get sonasty about his burger and we
(58:45):
were like does he know that he'sa frog?
Speaker 3 (58:49):
he's like the chosen one.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
He said that he was like siphoning the sun into his
pineal gland.
Yeah, this guy hadn't eatenlike his whole life.
He's just been eating hisboogers from his from his brain.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
That sounds so disgusting, but you know I also
but along the lines of what youguys are talking about, I also
think that there's a big.
I think there's going to be abig return to the kitchen.
You know how people kind ofstepped out of the kitchen and a
lot of people's kitchens gotdusty because nobody was cooking
, and now I think if peoplereally want to take their own
(59:26):
health into their hands, they'regoing to have to go back into
the kitchen.
Yeah, grow it, make it.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
it, make it like you can't really buy anything from
the store.
That's not.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's not toxic you know, I mean and they put sugars
in everything and everythinglike this way.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Everybody is is is diabetic, you know like and and
I realized, you know likethere's not a lot beyond growing
my own stuff or, you know,going to a farm where I see it
come out of the dirt whatthey're using to fertilize it
yeah, to be able to, to do that,you know, and and it's tougher,
(01:00:05):
but you know what like, at theend of the day, I want to live.
You know, I don't want topoison myself and die yeah, and
we want to be healthy you know,we want to live.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
You know, I don't want to poison myself and die.
Yeah, and we want to be healthy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Diabetes.
You know we want to be healthyyou know, Tender gardens, lovely
Tender gardens.
Water your seeds.
This is a time of cultivatingall sorts of things whether it
be in the garden or in our mindor or in the lives of our
children.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I really want to work on a greenhouse here.
I want to get one of thoseclear greenhouses so that I can
grow all year, like I could inFlorida, you know.
Yeah, put some humidifiers inand you know, or a mister in it,
you know, that's justconstantly running you know and
some kind of a drip irrigationthat runs the water back to
(01:00:56):
where the pump is pumping forthe mister so that, so that I
could do that, because you know,anything outside of outside of
greenhouse farming is is alsobeing contaminated by the
chemtrails and all this stuffthat's going on, you know.
So that's going on, you know.
So it's like you gotta do ityourself, but you gotta do it
(01:01:17):
yourself in like a quarantinedway yeah, almost like.
Yeah, it's true yeah, you gottagrow your children at home you
gotta grow your food at home,you gotta.
You know watch what yourchickens are eating.
And you know watch.
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You know who you're getting things from and how
they're growing and taking careof things yeah, yeah, yeah, you
have to safeguard everythingthat comes into your home
physically, emotionally,energetically, ethereally.
Yeah, so did you want to taylor?
I see you have your cards sowe're gonna, we're gonna do a
(01:01:56):
pull.
So this is we're looking for.
We're looking into um, we'relooking for the best guidance
for you know, the coming weeks.
What are the?
What are the cards want to tellus?
You've got the archetype cards.
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I'm feeling this guy right here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
All right, let's see it.
Wow, what is that?
The box.
I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Okay, I immediately think about Lauryn Hill.
I'll get out, I'll get out.
Of all your boxes I'll get out,I'll get out of all your boxes.
I'll get out.
I'll get out.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
All right so let's Google it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Okay, google it, it will.
It's a big one, she said.
Take off your bed and walk.
Okay, the box, because it'swhat we've not been speaking
about all morning being stuck inthis box, the cage, the rules,
(01:03:25):
the norm.
We all live to some degreewithin the confines of the box.
This archetype representseverything that is known,
anticipated and expected.
It holds us in place whilesimultaneously hiding us back,
(01:03:46):
holding us back from ourgreatest vision.
The box is sneaky, insidiousand everywhere, limiting us at
the most unconscious levels.
It is built of layer upon layerof social constructs and
pressures.
Breaking through its confinesrequires awareness, continued
effort and bravery.
The box may appear asexpectations from parents, a
(01:04:10):
well-paying but heartless job,the pressure to look or behave
like others or to simply staysmall.
There is a box around you now,made of some type of confining
thought.
What is it?
The box shifts and morphs as wegrow.
This is part of itsmulti-layered nature.
(01:04:31):
Once you break through onelayer, another will present
itself to you.
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Whoa, your comfort zone will kill you Break through
An exquisite life requires it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Everything within the box is known.
Everything outside of the boxis unknown.
That is why it is morecomfortable to stay within its
walls.
Choose freedom.
Moving outside of the box isexhilarating and expansive, but
destabilizing.
(01:05:08):
Others will wonder what you'redoing and why, and you will too.
This is part of the process.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so many boxes, yeah, so many boxes.
That's really perfect for rightnow, it really is, it really is
because you can say, oh, I don't, I don't want to, I want to
think outside the box or I wantto be outside the box and
whatever.
But just being a rebel is notenough, you know you, you have
(01:05:40):
to.
It requires a lot more effort.
Like being a rebel is justbeing reactive and stuff, but
it's not really.
There's not a lot of deepthought in it.
You really have to go deep andand uncover the layers of how
you have been kept in that box.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
It's not just being everybody to go listen to.
Um, I'll get out by lauren hillis the most symbolically uh
appropriate song for being in abox and how to get out of said
box, and just the way she wordsit in stating knowing my
(01:06:21):
condition is the reason I mustchange.
Highly recommend.
There, you go, get out of theboxes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Self-awareness, yes, self-awareness, self-awareness.
You know you can many manylayers, many layers, um, so that
is a lot of um food for thoughtfor this week.
Um, I think we've, you know,we've talked about a lot of
what's going on in our world andand with us, and, and I think
(01:06:55):
it's sobering times, you know,but there's also a tremendous
amount of hope, because I thinkwe should never underestimate
the power of human intention,and you know what we are, what
we're capable of.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
So Intention, intuition ability.
Like don't think you can't,don't say it's too tough or
what's gonna happen.
If something in your heart istelling you to do it, you need
to do it, you know don't fightthe flow of the river that
you're on you know, yeah, floatdown it and enjoy the current
(01:07:30):
and where it takes you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, beautiful, any last words Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Just be present Think about the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
man, you know, my last words every week are always
that I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I love you too.
All right, you guys have agreat week.
Yeah, this has been awesome.
Lots to think about and lots ofnourishment to carry us forward
, so always appreciate it.
Love you too.
Have a good day.
Bye, you guys.
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