Cravings Decoded, Max Patch Adventures, and the Clash of Medicine Worlds

Send us a text

Have you ever wondered why your body craves certain foods at specific times? Join us for a captivating episode where Patti opens up about her fixation on blackberries and sweet potatoes, revealing how such cravings may be our body's way of signaling what it needs. Taylor takes us on a breathtaking journey to Max Patch in North Carolina, sharing stories that make you feel the beauty and uniqueness of this stunning mountain bald. Together, we celebrate the joy of connecting with nature and the importance of seasonal foods for our well-being.

We then switch gears to tackle the often controversial world of healthcare, examining the contentious relationship between natural remedies and the pharmaceutical industry. Personal stories shed light on the challenges of advocating for holistic treatments in a profit-driven medical system. The episode emphasizes the power of self-education and making informed health decisions, especially post-COVID-19. We discuss the merits and drawbacks of both Western medicine and natural remedies, calling for more holistic research to understand how they can complement each other.

Our journey continues as we explore the broader impacts of education, technology, and hidden histories on our society. From the flaws exposed by remote learning during the pandemic to the mysteries of ancient technology and potential extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings, we leave no stone unturned. We wrap up with an inspiring look at the industrious nature of bees and their healing power, encouraging listeners to align with their vibrant energy. Tune in for a thought-provoking episode that will have you contemplating the world around us and beyond.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good morning and welcome to the Saturday live
stream.
This is Patti, with Patti TalksToo Much.
I'm here with dear friendTaylor and we were just talking
about.
Anokhi isn't going to bejoining us today because it's a
big day for her.
She's getting her.
What are we calling it, taylor?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Her house is something in the mail.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So her house, which is basically the shell of a
house that she's going to buildout, but that's being delivered
today and it's also her son'sbirthday, so it's a really big,
big, big day.
I think it's kind of excitingthat they're having their house
delivered on the on night.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's always like happy birthday night is right
this is what this is what youget.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
This is the biggest playhouse ever he's gonna love,
I love it, I, I absolutely loveit.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
So that's wonderful new day.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Blessings, loves, yes yeah, and what a beautiful
morning too.
I mean it really has been.
It's sunny, it's sunny here,it's gorgeous here.
Uh, it really it's been, it'sbeen really really it looks like
a gorgeous Tennessee summer day.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It looks like I should be on my way to the river
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, you guys have been spending.
I've seen the pictures.
You guys have been spending alot of time out in the you know,
out in nature oh, patty.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So there's this place , um, in North Carolina that
I've had friends tell me aboutfor years, since I've moved here
and I hadn't had a chance to goindulge myself in this place.
Oh, patty, it's called MaxPatch.

(02:01):
It's called Max Patch andessentially it is a mountain
bald on the very tippy, tippytop of this gorgeous range in
North Carolina, outside of PotSprings, and you drive up these
windy roads, you know all theway up these windy roads, and so
you climb this steep hill.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right, so you were saying the windy hill, the windy
roads, all the way to the top?
Yeah, and you find yourself andis it to the top, top of the
mountain.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's a loop trail, but the loop trail takes you.
Yeah, You're on the top of thisrange and you can just see out.
The view is mountain ranges inall directions.
You're just surrounded by wavesof Blue Ridge and then you're
also encompassed by this giantwild, almost like prairie-esque

(02:57):
plateau.
It's called a mountain bald,essentially, but it's the meadow
on top of a mountain.
It's absolutely stunning.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
How do we say that?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
mountain bald, bald yeah, it's not forested, it's.
It's like a natural meadow andthe ecosystem is just, it's
phenomenal, it's its ownecosystem up there yeah, yeah,
and you wouldn't believe thedeers that are on the tops of
the mountains.
I mean, they were blackberry.

(03:27):
I'm covered in scratchesbecause you know, I had to go
travel through the blackberrybrambles did you?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
were you able to pick any wild blackberries um?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
they were not all the way ripe yet, but I was very
cautious to do so because mymama bear instinct was kicking
in and we're in black bearcountry, so they can have their
blackberry they can have.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Let me tell you, okay .
So I have to tell you this.
I'm so glad you brought it up.
I, girl, I don't know what'sgoing on with me, but I go, go
through these, these rips where,like, there's just a certain
food that I want to eat andthat's just all I want to eat,
right, and then I get sick of itand then I stop.

(04:14):
You know, so Kind of ADHD ofyou, but okay.
I don't know if it's that,because you know I'm like it's
just something that we do I'mnot an aid on a certain food.
Well, it's been blackberries forme, Interesting.
I had.
I cannot get enough black.
I mean I eat an insane amountof blackberries now I don't know

(04:35):
what it is.
And so there was like well, youare a bear.
I know that's what I wasthinking.
It's like my bear spirit iscoming out, and you know just
like blackberries, it's season.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I want to eat all these blackberries.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So and I've got, I got.
So I've been doing blackberriesand blueberries, but I find
that it's the blackberries thathave dominated.
Like I you know, theblueberries can sit in the
fridge for a while.
The blackberries don't evenmake it home.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, it it's interesting.
The blackberries definitelyhave more antioxidants, but my
first immediate thought is it'sjust interesting the way that
nature coincides with us.
So when we, when you'reconnected enough to your body,
your body tells you exactly whatyou need yeah and blackberries
are something that you needright now yeah, you know what's

(05:25):
another one.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes, so I can.
Um, I can.
I guess I'll just share all ofmy weird, my weird, weird quirks
.
Sweet potatoes well, you'vealways loved sweet potatoes.
I know I've always loved sweetpotatoes, but I go through my,
my kicks, and so it's been.
I tell you the the foods thatI'm eating now mostly sweet

(05:46):
potato turkey, broccoli,blackberries.
I was like I could just eatthose things.
Now it's so weird.
Really great color variationthough it is, it's, it's a nice
color variation.
Yeah, um, and I just don't knowwhat it is, but I, you know, I
kind of just, kind of just I, I,I make note of it.

(06:06):
I might laugh at myself.
It's like there you go, youcan't even get the blackberries
home, you can't wait to put themin your mouth.
Can't even get them home, and sothat's why I buy a lot of them,
because I know that some ofthem are going to be eaten
before I even get home.
But but yeah, those are the,those are the foods, and then
I'll move on.
And then I'll move on tosomething else.

(06:26):
Like for a while there was fish.
All I wanted to do was eat fish.
Now, I'm not into fish.
Now, I mean, I've got fish inthe freezer.
I'm not into it.
You know, so it's turkey.
So I don't know, I really don'tknow and I don't really
question.
I just kind of laugh and think,well, this is kind of what it
looks like now.

(06:46):
So, but the blackberriesdefinitely I got a big kick out
of, because I know we've talkedabout bear spirit, you know bear
being my, my totem and you knowme kind of having having
definitely embody that yeah yeah, so at any any rate, I thought
you would enjoy that but, um,yeah, that was the other thing.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
The medicine on the top of this mountain was so
abundant, so you had theblackberries, but what else?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
what else was up there?
Oh, you see, you're theherbalist, so you would be able
to identify all of the differentthings, other medicines that
are up there.
So what was, uh, what was upthere?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
well, I'll just trudge people up the mountain
and be like you have to stopright here.
You're gonna need to taste this.
I'm gonna need you to observethis plant with me.
Um, so yarrow, yarrow.
It was, um in bloom, and I loveseeing yarrow in bloom, but
yarrow is always good to knowthat it's on the trail when you

(07:51):
have kids, or isn't it good forpeople?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
easily injured yeah, scrapes and bruises.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's actually an anticoagulant.
It actually stops bleeding.
You can take a piece of yarrowand shove it in your nostril and
it will.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It'll stop it, just bleed now is am I mistaken in um
associating yarrow it might besomething else with um fairy
energy, or is that mallow?
Oh for for sure I think so,Yarrow mallow.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Okay, all right.
Yeah, yarrow is also known aslike the a million leaves,
because it almost grows likefern-esque.
The leaves Ornate no, notornate.
I can't remember the name ofthe leaf, but so it's a stem.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But it's many, many, many, many different tiny leaves
.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, kind of like thyme and then, yes, but more
fern-like, more pointed all theway out and jagged.
Wonderful plant.
You can smoke it.
There's multiple benefits forit.
So that was great to see.
Um coltsfoot, which is reallygood for the lungs.

(09:10):
Um, of course, blackberry leaftea is wonderful for you, in
case you're you know, I'm surethat there's okay but um, just
um.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
So we know the benefits of blackberries but,
like the leaf, separate benefits.
If you dry the leaf and maketea, absolutely, and what would
the benefits be for, do you know?
For blackberry leaf?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
tea the leaves.
You would tea them, okay, youwould tea them, okay, okay.
So I want you to think um thesame with with most, um berry
leaves, strawberry leaves, etcwonderful vitamin c, raspberry
vitamin c, yeah, yeah flavonoidsso they're good for cleansing.

(10:02):
I've heard like the raspberryleaf and yeah, and then they do
this other thing where um mouthulcers, um mouth gums or throat,
because it's got the astrogensand the tannins um, but you know
, tannins can causesensitivities in some people, so

(10:26):
you do have to be aware of that, but um indigenous people um
would use that as a mouthwashblackberry that's interesting.
Um, even the roots can be used.
Um, but the leaves and rootscan be used.
But the leaves and roots can beused for diarrhea, for
regulating menses, for anemia.
I mean the things that aresurrounding us every day.

(10:51):
There's so many wonderful,wonderful benefits to the weeds
that grow around us that wedon't consider to be medicine
yeah, so you had blackberry, youhad yarrow.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Was there anything else you noticed up in?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
this area, I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm sure there was a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh man, sassafras, which is?
You know, it's actuallyinvasive, but wonderful.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now, does sassafras grow into a tree?
It does, it's a tree.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Now sassafras are great because they grow in these
funny shapes, the, the leaves,the way that you identify a
sassafras.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
We can't miss it in fall, because in fall they are
the most flamboyant, vibrant,red um the leaves there's like a
whole thing about how, likesassafras was prohibited, like
yeah, like they were prohibitingsassafras, and it's kind of

(11:51):
like well, why it's so good forus.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
The same.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why it's the samewith comfrey and quite a few
other medicines.
What happens is you have tounderstand that everything is
run by pharmaceuticals.
And you already know thatscientists are paid to research
plants.
They're paid by thepharmaceutical companies.

(12:16):
They're paid by pharmaceuticalcompanies.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Bastards.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And so these controlled instances in which
they're using their studies arebased on non-realistic elements
and mass amounts of the plant,so much so that it would cause

(12:40):
harm.
That it would cause harm, somuch so that, as an herbalist, I
would never, ever prescribe orrecommend that much of anything.
You know, comfrey is awonderful medicine, these are
wonderful medicines, but if youwere told to take them, a doctor

(13:01):
would be like absolutely not.
Those can cause harm to yourliver etc.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
How?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
much do you drink?
I want to be like how much doyou drink at night, sir?
Yeah, yeah, exactly what kindof damage is it doing to my
liver in conjunction, you know,with the small amount that I'm
using?
Or, you know, he wouldn't evenbe able to tell me.
A doctor wouldn't even be ableto tell you because there is no
scientific evidence other thanthe controlled, you know

(13:30):
experiment that was done, andthe controlled experiment that
was done was such an excessiveamount that, yes, it causes
issue.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Can you imagine if they tested all drugs like that?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was at a doctor's office when we were at st jude.
I was recommended to go therefor my anxiety.
It's funny, everyone at st judehas anxiety our children have
cancer, right?
so I go to meet with this doctor.
It was the only doctor was likethe everything doctor and I

(14:05):
needed a, a woman's health.
I just needed my iud removedand replaced.
It was like I can't getpregnant.
While I'm asking you so long ofthe short, I get diagnosed with
severe anxiety by this doctorand he starts to suggest these
medications to me.
Um, when he brought in um thesuggestion, I said to him um, I

(14:36):
actually use herbal remedies andI use a specific herbal plants
as medication.
I'm not interested in ananti-anxiety medication or an
anti-depressant at this pointthank you good for you what do
you say back in?

(14:56):
with a lot of paper, this fat, Istill have it because it's like
a little trophy, a littleherbalist trophy of mine the
hepatic effects of herbalmedicine.
This man had went and printedout an entire fucking book

(15:17):
talking to me about plants thatI hadn't even listed.
He didn't even know what I wastaking.
I mean, I could have told him,like I'm taking mimosa, and he
would have been like oh you'redrinking mimosas.
I mean fucking fools.
No, like I'm taking mother'swork.

(15:39):
Okay, not a clue Hepatic, uh,immediate, immediately, this
giant pamphlet on the negativeeffects on your liver, right?
And so I looked him square inhis eyes and I said that's
wonderful.
Thank you so much for thisreally valuable information.

(16:00):
Sir, I would like for you tonow go print out the same
paperwork for the drugs thatyou're trying to prescribe me.
Oh well, that'll take some time, will it?
I've got all day Because I'dlove to sit here and read it

(16:22):
Honestly.
Honestly I really would so.
Sometimes that was my way ofsticking it to the man in the
moment, but it was just aperfect example of somebody who
is familiar with naturalremedies and the way that it's
gothed at by the medicalindustry.
And knowing what I know, now,you couldn't bully me.

(16:46):
This is why I made friends withpharmacists and I made friends
with oncologists and I let themknow.
Hey look, I know thecontraindications of this
medication, but I also know thatI can give this herbal
supplement to my child.
So why don't you sit down andhave a discussion with me about
what I can give him and what Ican't can the contraindications

(17:06):
of?
Such so much so that I earnedand gained the respect of these
individuals and that theyactually were in a place where
they could teach me and educateme on things that I wanted to
give my child, um, that weren'tgoing to be prescribed to him.
And we have that power.

(17:28):
We have that power.
We have the power to be likeyou know what I'm taking this
and this and do doing your ownresearch, you know yeah, and you
know, taylor, I mean there's,there's.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I think that there are not enough people who do
that and unfortunately,sometimes we have to be in um
kind of a between a rock and ahard place and then we start
doing that, but most people willdefer to the, the doctor and to
these authorities, and Ihonestly think that we are on

(17:59):
the very edges of people on masssaying no, no to the medical
system.
I honestly, I I swear in thenext few years that their, their
authority will.
They will have no authorityover us and I think that we're
going to see some interestingnew things emerging that are

(18:23):
much more natural and lesspharmaceutical based, and I
think the pandemic reallybrought many people to the edge.
It's like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
is going on here.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, exactly Lied to by these authorities.
I mean like Fauci in front ofCongress, carrying on the way
that he carried on.
What a joke and what a bastard.
And people saw that it's likeyou don't really care about us
at all.
We are all beagles to, becauseyou know.
You heard what he did.
You heard about the experimentsthat his organization did with

(18:59):
beagles, right?
No, you don't want to know.
You don't want to know, but atany rate.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
So it was just a terrible, terrible
experimentations, and so and youknow I would have really
rebelled against all of that.
I had my son not just survivedcancer and had a full liver
transplant, and I was soconcerned with his safety, um,
and and coming out of him nothaving an immune system and

(19:24):
having this liver transplant,and it was still so new to us.
This new normal is what we weretold to call it, you know, but
it was like I can't chance this,I can't risk this.
I mean I quit my job, I, butyeah, fuck the covid and all of
the drama that it brought andlet people see the truth, let
people come to their ownrealizations.

(19:45):
And let me stand corrected.
I will stomp on Westernmedicine, but it still has its
place.
It does.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Oh, it does have its place, oh yeah, but you know the
way how it has been brought tothis extreme, where profit is
the bottom line our health isnot the bottom line, profit is
the bottom line.
Then we have to use such adegree of discernment when we're
dealing with pharmacy.

(20:14):
We really have to do ourhomework, like you have, and
like you know and I have, and wehave to ask questions, and
there are still a lot of peoplewho, especially when they're
afraid and they're feelingvulnerable, they don't want to
question these authorities.
I had a similar experience whenI was sitting in with my doctor
and I was telling her well, I'mgoing to approach this, I have

(20:38):
this approach for this arthritisthat I'm dealing with and I'm
going to do a series of cleanses.
I'm going to start with aparasite cleanse and then I'm
going to do a liver cleanse anda colon cleanse.
And she said oh, parasites, youdon't have to worry about
parasites.
I said why is that?
Well, because we live in theWest and that whole parasite
thing.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's just it's just in the water.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
and third world countries yeah, I mean that's,
it's just a, it's just a socialmedia fad, and I said no, no,
it's from.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you eat?
Meat yeah, I mean I'm sorrywhat?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
and I and I told her.
I said it's, it's a.
You know I'm following anaturopath and she was able to
heal her rheumatoid arthritis bydoing a series of cleanses.
So I read her book and I thinkwell, this is what I would do
that.
I.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
This is what I'd like now you're looking, yeah, like
a complete wackadoo and you'velost the doctor's respect.
Because you don't, there's nonecessity for her services.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
She, she ended up.
She said, well, I'm going toprescribe this one thing and you
know you can choose to take itor not.
And she, you know what it was.
And I just she, she had no ideathat I knew exactly what it was
.
But hydroxychloroquine, I wasthinking that's an anti-parasite
, it's a pharmaceuticalanti-parasite.

(22:00):
It was one of the you know, oneof the things that supposedly
was effective in treating COVIDalong with ivermectin.
You know the two things thatpeople.
You know that that um theindustry one just was railing
against um hydroxychloroquine.
And then when I went to um arheumatologist, she recommended

(22:22):
hydroxychloroquine and she saidthe reason is is because it's
the mildest medication I cangive you and it's the safest.
Is because it's the mildestmedication I can give you and
it's the safest.
It's the safest medication Ican give you.
I thought, oh, this isinteresting because, gee whiz, a
few years ago that's not what Iwas hearing about
hydroxychloroquine it's bleach.
It's bleach.
They want us to drink bleach,you know, like all kinds of

(22:44):
crazy stuff.
But, it's very, very safe, justlike ivermectin.
But I do think that this wholeparasite thing there's something
to it Like why is the wholemedical establishment there's
almost like this digging theirheels in refusal to look at the
possibility of parasites being aproblem behind many of the

(23:11):
imbalances and ailments that wehave?
Why is there kind of likeparasites don't exist in the
West, when that's not they verymuch do yeah Very much do.
Most of us have parasites to onedegree.
Now, is it South Sudan?
No, but you know they stillhaven't had a lot of opportunity

(23:36):
to say, hey, listen, I'm goingin this direction.
You know, I haven't been inthat position, so it was really

(23:59):
interesting to have thatexperience with my doctor.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, for sure, For sure, and there's this part of
me that's like you know.
I think about Phoenix and themedication that he has to take
every day for the rest of hislife, and I think that just
doesn't seem fair.
You know, of course Are thereplants that can regulate your
body to not reject a transplant.

(24:26):
Well, interestingly enough,there are very, very little
studies for contraindications onherbal medicine with any
anti-rejection medicine.
It's called Prograf, ortacrolimus is what Phoenix takes
.
And there's a part of me thatit's like there's got to be some

(24:48):
fucking scientist with moneywho gives a shit, like there's
just got to be right.
There's got to be somebodydoing this fucking research.
Well, the thing is, it's likewe live on planet earth and
nobody's doing the fuckingresearch on the plants.
What we want to do is we wantto separate the alkaloids from.
Stop separating the plant.
The plant is exactly plantmedicine I tell people this

(25:10):
about weed all the time the cbd,the thc stop, it is one
medicine.
Yeah, it's the whole.
Those things go together.
They are meant to not be pulledapart.
Right, you need the entirety ofthat particular plant to
receive the full embodiment ofwhat that plant gives you.

(25:33):
The plant spirit shouldn't beripped to shreds before you
ingest it or inhale it.
Yeah, that's right.
And a lot of times, a lot oftimes, the alkaloids.
These are the things they'retesting.
They're not testing the wholeplant.
And that's another reason whythings like com free are taken
out of context, right.
So there was one particularthing, though, that I thought

(25:56):
was really interesting, that Iguess they learned by accident,
because again, nobody's doingthis fucking research for anti
rejection meds, or for anymedication for that matter.
And it's funny to me becausepeople so easily forget, patty,
that every medicine, everyfucking pill you take,
originally from nature, from aplant.

(26:17):
It came from nature.
It came from something.
Yeah, the idea of it came fromsomething in natural nature and
they just created a syntheticversion aspirins from a fucking
willow tree.
I mean, these things alreadyexist in nature.
So it was interesting to methat, um, one of the things that

(26:42):
I was told absolutely not donot give your child cbd.
This was interesting to me asan herbalist.
I say, why?
Well, I'll give you an example.
The liver transplant coordinatorsays to me okay, great, there
was a man that they had beentaken care of fresh out of

(27:05):
transplant, been taken care offresh out of transplant, doing
wonderfully, healing well, and afriend, he had not been able to
smoke weed since his transplant.
He was, I guess, a heavy smokerand or he took CBD for
arthritis or something alongthose lines.
So, long of the short, somebodycame to visit this man in the

(27:28):
hospital while he was inrecovery and they gave him cbd
gummies and he ate them andwithin hours, what happens with
that particular plant and thesedrugs is it exponentially
increases the amount of thatdrug in your system, right,

(27:53):
which is fascinating to me.
So there is a specific rangethat you're supposed to be at
for this medication or damaging,severely damaging, to your
kidneys.
You've got between four to six.
This man ate these gummies andshot into the 40s.
His medication level was in the40s.

(28:14):
So he was in like we're goingto go into renal failure soon,
type shit.
But I just found that sofascinating.
So what if in my mind not thatI would ever, you know I had to
sign contracts that make surethat Phoenix is taken care of in
a specific way and I cannotexperiment with my child?
But it made me wonder what ifthat plant alone could work as

(28:39):
an anti-rejection medication?
if it's rising an anti-rejectionmedication that high now.
These medications are alsoalready damaging to the body.
Long-term use is already goingto affect my kid's kidneys,
right.
What if he could take a muchsmaller dose of medication in

(29:02):
conjunction with CBD and hit anote?
That was.
You know what I mean.
There are so many differentaspects of it that I'm just like
it's really, really sad.
It's really sad that that thereis no research on these kinds
of things.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, I mean, when you think about first of all,
like any scientist who's doingresearch, first of all they need
the money to do the research,and then they want to be
published, and the problem is isthat they get roadblocked on
both, even if they have thefunding.
Yeah, even if they have thefunding um a lot of these, um
medical journals, and we sawthat through covid too, there

(29:40):
were people doing research Istayed real fucking quiet during
that time, patty, because I'mlike you're going to fucking sue
me for anything.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I you know everybody was really big into immune
boosting drugs, and so I, my job, then became no, don't do that
to your body.
Everybody's, you know.
You can go to the farmer'smarket today and go buy a bottle

(30:08):
of elderberry syrup, becauseelderberry syrup has become this
super trendy thing to do.
This is, this is when we takejoke herbalism as a joke,
because it's not a fucking joke.
This is what I mean when I saythey're.
Oh well, I'm taking thisbecause it's good for my immune
system.
Full stop, the worst thing youcould have taken during covid

(30:34):
yeah, what's that?
a disease that is attacking thephilip, the philia in your lungs
.
Right, it's making you havemore of an immune response,
which has been having your lungsdamaged further, because the

(30:54):
immune response is what wasgiving these results, right?
So everybody's taking all ofthese immune boosting drugs like
to keep from getting COVID, buteverybody's going to get COVID
anyways.
And now your immune system ison such high alert that your

(31:15):
body's attacking itself and thisis where you're getting that
long COVID and these terriblelung issues.
So I was going around andlisting all of these herbs it
was aromatic herbs out phlegm,your marshmallows and

(31:54):
marshmallow root not realmarshmallows people.
There were so many herbs thatcould have been used
preventatively without affectingthe immune system in such a way
that would have given reliefduring COVID, and so that was
essentially what my job becameduring that time.
But, moreover, what I found sointeresting was I spent all this

(32:17):
time so worried about my son,worried about my
immunocompromised child, thatwhen he got COVID, he got COVID,
he got COVID again, he gotCOVID again.
Um, within like a four or fivemonth time frame, he caught it
three times.
Well, he was asymptomatic,every time, very mild symptoms,

(32:42):
and I finally was able to speakto his transplant doctor, like
his actual liver transplantdoctor, and I said I have to
tell you.
I do find it quite interestingthat my son's not having a
response.
Could it be because he's takingmedications to hinder his

(33:07):
immune system's ability takingmedications to hinder his immune
system's ability that hisimmune system is not affected as
much?
Covid isn't registered in himbecause his immune system isn't
like attack.
So the doctor responded yeah,after long studies, what have

(33:30):
you?
We have realized that peoplewith no immune systems aren't
affected as badly by COVID, andI just found that to be
fascinating and such a fuckingwaste of two years that I hid my
children away in a cave tryingto keep them all healthy.
Like, looking back, I realizedhow absolutely asinine all of
that was.
Like looking back, I realizedhow absolutely asinine all of

(33:51):
that was.
Yeah, yeah, but in the moment Iwas just really in protective
mode.
I had a sick kid, we had justgone through something so
traumatic, um and so now I feellike you know, people are
finally getting back out intothe world and and healing can
finally begin, because, fuck,that affected the collective
nervous system absolutely thatwas true.

(34:12):
That was a collective trauma, itwas fucking trauma.
It was trauma and I really feelfor our kids, you know, because
it fucked them up a little bitsocially, socially, socially,
kids all over the world lostyears of their life and and

(34:34):
their developmental stages.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's gonna take a long time to recover.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah , yeah, I have my kids in
therapy and I hope that theytalk about that time and you
know, it know we saw a lot of.
You know the school system tooka big hit because parents were
like I don't think my kids madefor online school, yeah.

(35:01):
So many parents were like thisisn't going to work and so many
parents were like the schoolsystem is fucked too.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, yeah, Parents really got to see close up and
personal what's going on in theclassroom and I think that that
was that was really good.
I mean, it was really an eyeopener.
I have to say that there weresome teachers that I was working
with who said, when we wentvirtual, they said this is, this

(35:29):
is the future.
So might as well start thefuture now.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
The future is going to be all online?
Who?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
gives a shit.
Yeah, but they were like thisbecause they believe that the
future is like all online, thatyou know we're not, we don't,
we're not going to needbuildings and classrooms anymore
, it's just going to be allonline.
And then what happened was werealized it's like oh my
goodness it's, this is a, thisis an absolute failure.

(35:55):
What happened?
And we're trying to get fish toclimb a tree, you know like
it's.
It's just, it was.
It was an absolute failure.
So there were a lot of peoplewho were like, who were more
like tech focused, liketechnology is the future of
education, and I do think liketechnology definitely has a role

(36:15):
in the future of education, ifeducation itself has a future.
I mean, that's a whole otherdiscussion, but the that, what,
what happened in COVID?
And, of course, because I teachhigh school, you know it was
like you were basically teachingto ceiling fans.
That was your classroominteraction.
So they, you know, I mean, andthey're teenagers, so they're,

(36:52):
they're going to be like this is, this is awesome.
You know, I get to kind of justgo and do whatever the fuck I
want, whatever, whatever I want,and just have my camera pointed
, pointing at at the ceiling.
So I don't.
I don't think that anotherpandemic is going to fly, but

(37:12):
there was a lot that was exposedduring that time and I think
that education in our country is, I mean, just like the medical
system, like you know how muchit's on the verge.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
It's totally on the verge.
It's totally on the verge ofcollapse.
And with things like forestschools.
There's a wonderful forestschool locally that a friend of
mine helps run.
It's called Seed Keepers andyear round, even in the winter,
they're in an outside classroomsitting by a fire.
They're in an outside classroomsitting by a fire, learning

(37:50):
something that has completelyindulged all their senses and
the nature around them.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Absolutely.
There you go and these arethings.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
How many logos can your kids name?
You can show your kids logoswithout words on them.
Your kid's going to knowMcDonald's.
Your kid's going to know all ofthese things television shows,
channels, whatever, etc.
Now put five trees.
Five trees in front of them.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah can they?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
tell you what kind of trees those are?
That happened.
Can they tell you what types ofthings are in the world around
you?
Naturally, that could save yourlife, or that could be used as
food, or that can be used in anyinstance for anything?

(38:45):
No, no, we're teaching our kidseverything except spirituality.
While science is bustlingforward in this direction of
energetic knowledge right, butwe're not teaching our kids that

(39:06):
fuck.
We're not even teaching ourkids how to do taxes or how to
live as an adult, as an adult inthis world, or how to cope
emotionally.
We're not teaching kids any ofthat.
We're teaching them how tofollow a line.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
We're teaching them how you know to be good workers
well, that was the rockefellerschool system, that was the
whole point to it, the entirepoint to it.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Go look at who invented textbooks.
It'll shock you.
Yeah, it's a fucking setup.
Yeah, yeah, now I say all ofthis, my kids are still in
public school.
But trust and believe, I alsoeducate my children.
You're going to get two sidesto this story and then you're

(39:49):
going to come up with your ownideologies, make up your own
mind, but I'm certainly notgoing to send you to school on
christopher columbus day uh, youknow and to go learn about a
man who was a murderer, rapist.
We're not.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
We're gonna educate you but I think, like in the
future, the so much of ourhistory is is going to be
unveiled and people are justgoing to be gobsmacked about
what our true history is andwhat existed here in the, in the

(40:29):
West already, and I'm excited.
I'm excited for our youngpeople to be learning about
things like Tartaria, the thingsabout how there were
civilizations that had freeenergy, and how all of that
changed when you had these folkswho wanted to harness energy

(40:50):
and then sell it to us when itshould have always have been
free.
You know, and that's one of thethings that bothers me about,
like Tesla, the car being namedafter Tesla, it's like that's
that's a Tesla would be rollingaround in his grave Because
Teslas have to be plugged in tothe same grid that Tesla himself

(41:17):
was working against.
He was an Etherian, so hebelieved that there's all this
electricity in the ether andthat's why there are know, like
there are.
There are so many photos thathave been scrubbed, like you
know, those the things that looklike blimps, you know, but that
was like that was air traveland they would hook up to to be

(41:41):
charged on buildings, that wherethey got their, they got their
electrical charge and there waslike all of this stuff and it
really wasn't that long ago, butit's been.
It's been scrubbed and you knowhow like I think was it last
week or the week before you weretalking about like how every
hundred years there's like areset and and I honestly you

(42:02):
know, the first thing we do in awar is we burn the fucking
libraries yeah, it's like wedon't even have to be in a war
we burned that fucking church.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Remember that one of the oldest you know libraries in
the world inside of that oneparticular church.
It was like four or five yearsago.
Why don't you do?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
what, what country?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
what country?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
was a huge deal oh god where was it?
Where was it?
I'm?
I believe you know, I believeyou and I probably italy, or
france, I don't know, it was ineurope.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It was a very old cathedral that had ancient
libraries, ancient books gonewell, you're doing it in
palestine right now yeah, theydo it every time yeah, in the
end in that, yeah, you're goingto eradicate that history,
because there's a lot of historythere when we went into um iraq

(42:53):
, right in that whole region,right um, I remember talking
with and and I I didn't reallyget it at first, but you
remember cleo, right, miss?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
cleo, whatever, call me now for your free reading,
and we used to sit around, butshe was deep and we would sit
around and have coffee fullpause if you all sorry, patty,
if you all watching have notseen the cleo documentary.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
If you were ever a 90s kid, you know and you saw
that infomercial and you calledthat number to talk to miss cleo
, understand that that her andPatty were friends and she was
actually a local to SouthFlorida and like words, and
Patty is um one of the mainspeakers, commentators in her

(43:45):
documentary and if you haven'tseen it I believe it's onflix no
, I um, it's hbo max.
Hbo max.
Please, please, take the timeto go watch that, because call
me miss cleo that's what it's aninteresting.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I was just on cleo's life yeah, I was disappointed in
it.
You know I I really, you know Ididn't.
I didn't really like it, butyou never know what the
documentary people are going todo.
But she used to come into thecafe and we would sit around and
we'd have a smoke at that timeI smoked my clove cigarettes,
that was the thing and we wouldhave our coffee and espresso and

(44:26):
sometimes she would just dropthese things and I was kind of
much more naive then and shesaid that war, that war over
there in Iraq, people think it'sabout oil, people think it's
about this, but it's not.
I said well, what is it about?
Then she said ancienttechnology.

(44:49):
I was like, what ancienttechnology?
She said there are things thereburied that they want to get
their hands on.
And it was years later that Iheard about things like
stargates, portals and thingslike that.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I was son of a gun she was right, but at the time
antarctica was like holy shitantarctica's huge.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Oh, my goodness.
What we're going to be learningabout antarctica, did you was
this did this have anything todo with the ice wall?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
um, this had to do with people they sent there, oh
and oh, that somebody, whoactually this team of scientists
?
When they came back for therescue mission to get them, the
rescuers were like something'sfucking wrong.
Yeah, like everybody's frozen.

(45:44):
One guy had a stroke, heartattack.
None of them could speak, theygone on the helis and they were
not unable to answer questions.
They were fucking it, stuck inshock.
What they had seen did that tothem really, really funny,

(46:06):
because that shit in miami malland everybody's like, oh the
fucking, that's right to thosewho don't?
know there was entity uh presentin a miami mall and I've never
seen any footage of it.
But besides the point, theyweren't gonna.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
They weren't gonna, you're not gonna call 300
fucking cops.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I've never, ever and I've seen some shit.
I've been in.
I've been in, seen and followedby, you know police chases.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I've never seen some shit that wasn't about some kids
lighting off fire, firecrackersoh, I don't fucking think so.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
The police presence was a laugh.
It was a laugh that you guysare going to call this something
as simplistic as that, but,interestingly enough, people
have made those comments aboutthe coordinate swap, because if
you swap the coordinates ofMiami, it brings you to
Antarctica, absolutely.
However, these men, when theyfinally talk, when they got away

(47:12):
from Antarctica and theyfinally spoke one particular man
said that these entities couldcome in and out of our reality.
That's right, and they could doexactly what was said that they
did in that mall.
It was the same kind ofcreature, almost
Skinwalker-esque, yep.

(47:34):
They would be classified asinterdimensional correct because
they can, because they can movein and out.
Of dimension?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
they're not.
Yeah, yeah, now a lot of stuffis starting to come out.
You know, with the, with theufo disclosure.
Like you, you do get militarypeople now using the term
there's interdimensional,there's inter, there's
extraterrestrial, there's likewe came up with a fucking space
force.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So don't telldimensional, there's inter,
there's extraterrestrial,there's like we came up with a
fucking space force.
So don't tell me that there'snot shit out there.
Oh yeah, there is.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
But the whole thing about Antarctica, though, taylor
, I find it fascinating, and Ido think that we are we are
going to be hearing a lot morelike when, when we finally have
access to this information.
I this is what I've beenhearing that there are bodies of
land on earth far more than theones that we live on, that

(48:25):
earth is bigger, and that humansare kind of kept in this wall.
In this, yes, now, the ice wallgoes all the way around
antarctica.
But if you go, if you go beyondthe ice wall In this yes, Now,
the ice wall goes all the wayaround Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Around the world.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
But if you go beyond the ice wall, there are lands
and continents that we don'thave access to, cities you know,
like places where people live,and I've also heard that there
are some animals there that wewould consider extinct.
It's giving Truman.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Show.
Yes, honestly, people, it'sgiving Truman Show and I'm going
to take my fucking boat to theend.
I'm saying and I say this allthe time, I say this all the
time there are maps that provethis.
Yes, this ice wall, there areice walls drawn on maps, 1600s.

(49:18):
Um, there are maps of innerearth.
To me, yeah, inner earth islooking a lot like people that
got beyond the ice wall right,and to me and I've said this a
million times to you, patty theidealism of what we consider to

(49:44):
be mythological creature yeahdidn't come from somebody's
imagination you know exactly,tolkien was tapping into a real
language.
He didn't fucking invent elfishor elfin.
Okay, these animals, thesebeings, these creatures came

(50:08):
from something more thanimagination.
Where are they?
Where, where?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
are the remnants of unicorns and dragons.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, where are the fossils?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
of these creatures?
Yeah, and what about fairiesand elves and little people?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
fairies and little people and elves.
I feel like they can go backand forth.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
See, I think that they're interdimensional I think
those are those I do yeah yeah,I do believe that they can be
and Sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Bigfoot.
I believe they are alsointerdimensional.
That's why they speak lightlanguage.
That's why they say thatBigfoot can speak in light
language.
That story that I told youabout this place, the place that
that story happened wasClingman's Dome.
That story happened wasclingman's dome.

(51:01):
And this place, uh, thecherokees, uh, pure reverence
for this land.
Right, it's in the cherokeenational forest.
There is a portion of thisforest where everything sinks
down into this bowl potty andyou get this fog cover and when
you walk down into this valleyand you look up it's called the
Magic Lake.
The condensation from the fogkind of encapsulates you and

(51:22):
when you look up it looks like abody of water Interesting.
So they call it Magic Lakebecause it's a mirage and it
makes it look like.
So, anyways, this place is verysacred, especially to the
natives.
People go there and they dosound baths.
And so there's this woman Iknow, wonderful, intelligent,

(51:44):
highly intelligent in stonemedicine.
She goes there and she sets upcrystal grids and they do sound
baths in this place right calledthe magic lake.
And so there was a girl who, um,as they were uh, uh leaving the
sound bath I guess they hadalready finished whatever she
hit her head on a tree andstraight passed out like,

(52:07):
knocked herself out on a treebranch as they were walking.
When she came to, everyone wasaround her and she was like
Bigfoot.
Just, this is the crazieststory.
Don't judge me people.
No, I love it.
Bigfoot just downloaded into meand they were like I'm sorry
what?

(52:27):
No, they were going there toplace sound bath for whomever,
interdimensional or not.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
They kept their door wide open.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
This is why I don't go to drum circle and me neither
okay this girl, after she hitsher head, claims that bigfoot
came up to her, healed her woundand she had a tattoo of
metatron.
Sacred geometry is lightlanguage written down Right.

(53:01):
He used her tattoo, put hishand on it and downloaded light
language into her.
So when she woke up to telleverybody she was speaking light
language she was speaking whitelanguage and the girl, sarah,
who was in charge of thisexcursion, was like holy shit,

(53:25):
she's speaking white language.
Everybody else thought she hither head too damn hard.
And then, you know, the girltold her like it used my my
tattoo to download into me.
Told her like it used my mytattoo to download into me.
Um, and I found that to beabsolutely fascinating, because
we really don't realize theportals that we open up, the
tattoos first of all I agree.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Um yeah, where exactly is this place, this bowl
, this where the sacred lake is?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
um clingman's dome in north carolina or it's in
tennessee.
Actually it's called clayman'sclingman's like I cling to it
and clingman was actually areally shitty person, and I do
believe that natives are workingon a name change where they've
discussed name changes.

(54:15):
Yeah, because the natives don'tcall it that um I can't remember
the cherokee name for thisplace, but there is an
exponential amount of ufoactivity recorded, I bet, in
this place.
And if you look up slingman'sdome, it's this giant.
You park in the parking lot,you're on the cusp of this giant

(54:37):
overlook, right that sees sevenstates.
You're up so high.
But the pathway is this giantlong twirling line that brings
you to this overlook.
But the overlook is shaped justlike a UFO, a giant UFO on the
side of a mountain.
And so I just thought likeinteresting architecture, really

(55:01):
interesting architecture forthe middle of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
And considering that's why, as crazy as the
world is right now, I'm, I'mhopeful for the future, because
I think, like so much is goingto it will.
It's going to be bumpy, it'llbe a little rough for a while,
but so much is going to becoming out, so much disclosure,
so much.
You know, if you can imagineliving in a world where we can

(55:29):
finally be free of the forcesthat have wanted to enslave us,
and part of that freedom isknowing our real history,
because I think one of theforces that have wanted to
enslave us, and part of thatfreedom is knowing our real
history, because I think one ofthe big things that's kept
humanity back is that we don'tknow our history.
We don't know who we are, wedon't we don't know what's going
on.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
And then we believe books that are half true.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, I mean how?
And there's always a sense thatsomething is a bit off.
So we've kind of been a specieswhere we're kind of scratching
our head most of the time.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
We've got amnesia, yeah, and we were given amnesia?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, exactly, and so I think that the amnesia days
are probably coming to an endtoo.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Well, it's out there, hide it.
We can't you know.
First of all, you knowFreemasons exist for a reason,
right, and you think about the,the history of of Masons and
that's bricklaying, laying thefoundation.
Um, those secrets are comingout.
I don't know if you know thisor if you've seen, but there are
so many family members of pastFreemasons who are opening up

(56:37):
their loved one's Bible, theirFreemason Bible, and this
information that I've never seenpublicly before.
There is going to be a lotcoming out.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You know the age of Aquarius, the age of knowledge,
and I think that they see likeknowledge, secret knowledge
being held by secret societies.
I think those days are over.
I don't think that things needto be locked up in vaults under
the Smithsonian, locked up invaults under the Vatican.
I mean, it's not like theydon't know where the Ark of the
Covenant is like we already knowall of that.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
we already know what you guys have made a million
movies, you know, insinuatingthat.
You know that there is anentire wing of the pentagram
dedicated to Hollywood and filmthe pentagon.
Oh, yeah, Because it's all partof and, like you and I say the
20 years out, I think anythingthat they're showing you in a

(57:35):
movie today.
My kids, my teenagers, areexcited to see Venom, which is
about an amoeba who takes overhis body and wants to eat people
, et cetera.
The things that are being shownto you now.
Technology wise, these arethings that our governments were
doing 20 years ago, over adecade ago Easily easily for

(57:55):
doing 20 years ago, over adecade ago, easily, easily.
We are so in the dark and playedso badly.
I think it was Cat Williamsthat was like it's really cool
that it happens to beentertaining, but that's not the
purpose.
That's not the purpose.
Indoctrination is the purpose,it's not entertainment purposes.

(58:17):
That's not the purpose.
Indoctrination is the purpose,it's not entertainment purposes.
Right, yeah, but we happily goto the movie theater, we happily
sit in front of our screen, wehappily scroll.
Yeah, we are subdued.
They're keeping us subdued,entertained.
But I think those days, I don'tthink those days are going to
last.
I'm guilty, we're all guilty ofit.

(58:38):
I honestly I think that's gonnachange well, because this
shit's gonna go.
We're not gonna have the, we'regonna lose this shit.
The sun's not playing with us.
We're gonna lose.
I tell people this all the time, especially when they get super
frustrated like, oh, the worldis dying and no, no, mother
earth is very much alive and ifshe wants to cleanse herself,
she will.
If we have to learn how to livefrom scratch again she's gonna

(59:03):
do a parasite cleanse she'sgonna do a parasite cleanse.
And I hate to.
I hate to quote joe rogan, youknow, but he he's like when
you're in the sky and you'relooking down, he's like you fly
into LA.
I think he was on D&D orsomething, but he said he was

(59:23):
flying somewhere to California.
In more ways than one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he looked down and thoughtwe look like cancer on the earth
.
Looked down and thought we looklike cancer on the earth, like
the way that we've built up andyou know, the decimation of our
natural state.
I don't think that you know thepurpose of humanity is

(59:47):
parasitic.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, um, not our original purpose.
We have a very not ourrelationship to earth
individually.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
We can go tap into that today, right now, totally,
totally right the new generation.
Touch grass, like go fuckingtouch some grass, go ground
yourself.
You want to talk aboutelectricity?
Tesla would tell you to takeyour fucking shoes off.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got to tap back in.
Yeah, because we're here for apurpose.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
We're not here to make a mess and cause debauchery
and leave I I think that, um,you know oftentimes what happens
you know, yeah, and you'veheard about how people's lives
change when they have anear-death experience or dark
night of the soul and I honestlythink that that happens and I

(01:00:38):
think it might be happening nowon a collective a collective
night of the soul.
Yeah, and so when, when you gothrough that as a as a
breakthroughs right, thebreakthroughs in terms of, like,
tapping into your intuition,tapping into things that you
didn't, that you weren't able totap into before.
I think that that is a resultof you know some of these darker

(01:01:03):
things that we are goingthrough.
You know like we're.
We're kind of in thisexistential.
It's like, oh my goodness, whatnuclear war, what missiles,
like ships off of our code, whatyou know, like it doesn't it
not Floridians joking aboutshooting up Russian?
War submarine.
Yeah, that's just, you know,that's just.
You know stupid people who wantto.

(01:01:26):
But I think what the leaders ofthe world are doing, it doesn't
.
It doesn't make any sense, like, why would you want to
encourage war on this?
On this scale, it doesn't makeany sense.
And it doesn't make any sense,like, why would you want to
encourage war on this?
On this scale, it doesn't makeany sense.
And it doesn't make any senseto a whole lot of people, even
people who might have beensupporters of war before.
It's kind of like well, wait,wait, I have, I have children

(01:01:49):
and grandchildren.
No, no, this, this is not cool,and and so I think like we
really are at some kind of somekind of tipping point.
I also just just want to addthat the, the dollar is now dead
because of what happened inSaudi Arabia.
There was an agreement betweenthe United States and Saudi

(01:02:12):
Arabia to only use the American,only use the US dollar for oil
purchases, and the thing is thatagreement expired on the 9th of
June and Saudi Arabia did notrenew it.
So what that means is thepetrodollar.
There's no such thing as thepetrodollar anymore.
It doesn't exist, and so whatthe effect of that?

(01:02:35):
I think we're going to befeeling over the summer what is
happening to our dollar.
And there are the BRICS nationsaround the world who are like
we don't really want to trade inthe US dollar anymore.
I think that this is going tobe huge for the United States.
I think that it's going tochange us in terms of being a

(01:02:56):
consumerist country, because weconsume all of this stuff from
all over the world and I'm likeare they going to tell the truth
about Fort Knox, or are we justgonna?
I do think that there's there'sa positive money system coming
for the United States, but inthe meantime, I think it's going
to be pretty rough.
It may be a very, veryinteresting summer in terms of

(01:03:18):
like trade, like what countriesare going to ship stuff to the
United States if they don'taccept our dollar?
So, and and actually this isjust, I think one thing that we
should probably follow prettyclosely is the pharmaceutical
stuff, taylor, because it doesaffect you and your family with

(01:03:39):
Phoenix.
But it's like what if we arenot able to get the
pharmaceuticals that people havebeen getting, that are
obviously life preserving?
So we're just going to have tosee what develops with that,
because so I think I don't knowwhat percentage it's like 85 90%
of our pharmaceuticals comefrom, come from out of, out of

(01:04:00):
the country.
So very interesting.
We're just gonna have to seewhat, what shapes up over the
summer.
But that's huge.
And so you know, when you saynear near death experience, I
think that the United States isabout to full throttle go into a
near death experience and whenwe come out the other end, our
relationship to government willbe different, our relationship

(01:04:22):
to medicine will be different,our relationship to educate, I
mean, it's all going to bedifferent in that you know where
.
We may not have a federalgovernment after.
You know, when all is said anddone, we may decide to be
totally local and honestly, Ithink that's.
I think that's kind of cool, so, but will it be bumpy?
Yeah, it'll be, it'll be bumpy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, as long as it doesn't become like Game of
Thrones, shit, you know yeah noexactly, or like Mad Max or you
know whatever.
It's kind of like you knowthere's always the chance it is,
it is so, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
But before I know we've.
You know time goes by soquickly when we're just kind of
yakking away, right.
I know, and I love this, lovethis part when we, just before
we end, you pull a card and theintention behind the card is
what is going to be most helpfulfor us as we move into the next

(01:05:17):
week.
I thought that zebra medicinelike, even though it seemed
really unusual that week thatyou pulled it, I thought it was
perfect.
So every time you pull a card,it does seem like it's perfect
for our times moving forward.
So, given what you know we'llbe facing in the coming week or
so, what card is going to be thebest medicine for it?

(01:05:39):
What, by the way, what cards doyou have today?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Today we're pulling from animal spirit guidebook
again.
Awesome, wild unknown.
I love that.
Okay, love Kim Kranz.
She's a wonderful, wonderfulauthor and illustrator.
So I'm just going to pull forus with intention.
Ooh, the B Interesting becauseI think about, like the hive,

(01:06:06):
the collective, everybody's gota job.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Everybody has a purpose.
That's right.
We're working together.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Not that we're not individuals, because we all are
very unique and individual, butwe're really part of the human
collective Earth element.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
So interesting that we've talked so much about Earth
this morning and that B2decided to answer their call.
So let us read, shall we?
First of all, I just liedbecause it's not an Earth part.
Is it an air?
It is.
That would make most sense,wouldn't it?
My triangle was flipped upsidedown.

(01:06:59):
What a wonderful analogy tosummarize our conversation today
, patti oh let's hear it.
Earnest, hardworking, democratic.
A bee personality is a delightto be around, especially when
there's a team project on thehorizon.

(01:07:20):
Bees love to work steadily andthoughtfully until the task is
complete.
They're sensitive creatures,aware of many subtleties all at
once.
Since they're artists at heart,they usually add creative
details to their overall vision.
For the most part, they havebustling joyous personalities

(01:07:45):
until they're too tired from allthe work.
And then they gripe.
And then they sting, then theysting.
So a couple things come to mymind collectively Bustling
joyous.
That is our natural state.
Right, If we were allowed toturn off all the boxes, not go

(01:08:16):
to work, we would find ourselvesgetting busy in things that
were closer to our heart, wewould still be productive.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
We would still be.
Yeah, might be still workinghard, but working hard on
projects and on things that arebest for the collective, not
best for, say, a corporation oryou know, and something with
sustenance.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Yes, not emptiness, like we spend all of our time.
And then they're too tired fromall the work, feels a lot like
humanity right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Collectively.
We're all fucking tired, we'reall fucking sick of working To
paper house that we're only inwhen we sleep, because we're
always working.
Um, and then they gripe, right,yeah, griping is good sometimes

(01:09:08):
.
Now I try not to be toonegative, but I do love a good
gripe getting it off our chest,having a good rant, and then
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I think that the sting and the bee is really
significant for the time we'rein, because humanity is is ready
to act now when you think aboutthe size of a bee and then you
think about, like the size of ahuman or a really large animal,

(01:09:40):
and how one sting from one tinylittle bee could, could bring,
could bring a human to theirknee, you know, like when you
think about it it's still ahuman in some instances, yeah.
So it's kind of like the powerin that it's like we don't,
we're not going to, we're notgoing to use it unless we need
to.
But when we use it we can bethe David and you can be the

(01:10:03):
Goliath and you're coming down.
I think, wow, how powerful thatis the sting of a bee, what it
can do to things much, much,much larger than itself.
But that's awesome Bee medicineto bring us into the coming
week.
I think about, like thevibration of bees and what

(01:10:24):
they're able to produce, whichis like the elixir of life honey
.
What an amazing species youknow to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
There are holistic practitioners using bee bee beds
.
Have you seen this?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I just lost her signal.
I'm going to give her a minuteor two.
We're pretty close to uh, theend of our live stream here, so
I'm going to see if she popsback on.
But anyway, we're talking aboutbee medicine for the coming
week.
You know the mighty bee and howit bustles joyously and emits a

(01:11:05):
kind of vibration that is thathelps produce the most powerful
healing food on the planet,which is honey.
So that is the bee, the smallbut mighty bee, the industrious
bee, the joyously bustling bee.

(01:11:28):
That's where we're going toleave it for this week, with
that inspiration moving into theweek ahead.
How can we align with thevibration and the joyously
bustling be as we move forwardand work on things that are near

(01:11:52):
and dear to our hearts andaligned with the good of
humanity, because really that'swhat it's about.
So, on behalf of Taylor, who hasprobably had to go off to do
potty duty with Porter, hertwo-year-old, and myself, we

(01:12:15):
hope that you have a great restof your week.
We're sending you all love.
We do this every Saturday atnine o'clock.
Next week, enoki will bejoining us and we'll be hearing
all about her new home project.
Anyway, have a great week,everyone.

(01:12:37):
We're sending you love.
Ciao, thank you.