May 18, 2024 • 53 mins
Hey there, beautiful minds! It's Patti, your notorious chatterbox from Patti Talks Too Much, and guess what? My dear friends Anoki and Taylor and I are back, spilling more tea like we did back in our cozy South Florida café days. We've woven together tales of our unlikely trio—three women embracing their outlier status—with belly laughs and some serious soul-searching. This week, we're digging into how a name that was once a jab has become our banner of pride, and why sometimes, a good ol' friendship declutter is just what the doctor ordered.
In our latest heart-to-heart, we're pulling back the curtain on the unpredictable lessons that life hurls our way. Picture Taylor, in the trenches of the service industry, learning the hard way that patience isn't just a virtue—it's a survival skill. Anoki and I dissect the delicate tango between standing your ground and avoiding outright conflict, all while navigating through the beautiful mess that is personal growth. It's all about striking that sweet spot between order and chaos, and trust us, it's as tricky as it sounds!
We wrap things up with a foray into the mystical, courtesy of Taylor and her animal totem cards from the Wild Unknown Animal Spirit Guidebook. Ever wonder what wisdom a hawk circling the sky might hold for you? We share some of that 'hawk medicine,' offering a fresh lens to view your life's challenges and triumphs. So, fluff up those feathers and join us for a flight of introspection. And to you, our cherished listeners across the globe—your ears and hearts mean the world to us. Keep sharing your energy with us, and let's soar into the next conversation together.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
if you are joining us from any of the live stream
sites or if you're joining uslater on podcast, you know, on
our podcast then we want to saythank you for joining us.
Thank you for popping in.
My name's Patty with PattyTalks Too Much.
And this is my dear friendEnoki.
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We are expecting, expectingTaylor, taylor.
Often, you know, she works, andbecause she's a waitress, she
works very, very late on Fridaynights and so Saturday mornings
can be a little rough for her,so sometimes she arrives a
little later, so we look forwardto her showing up.
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But I do want to say just a fewwords on who we are.
So we're not gurus, we're not,you know.
We're ordinary women who, um,came together years ago, met at
a little cafe that I ran inSouth Florida, and we are, um,
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we're deep thinking women, we'rerebellious women, um, we're um
kind of outliers in our ownrespect and, um, you know we've
taken our hits for that, um, butwe come together, uh, our, our
bond has remained over the yearsand the cafe is long gone and
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we live in different places now,um, and our bond has continued,
and so this is a weekly timethat we connect and have a
conversation about what's goingon in our lives, what's going on
in the world, how we understandit different perspectives, but
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it's a conversation that we doonce a week and we do hope that
if you're popping in and intoour conversation and listening
in, that you find some value inlistening in to a conversation
among three ordinary women whoare kind of extraordinary in our
own right in terms of the kindsof things that we, in terms of
the kinds of things that we'vedone or the kinds of things that
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we've experienced or endeavoredin our lives, and we kind of
bring all of that into ourconversations.
There might be if you're new,you might wonder why it's.
Patty talks too much and I'vementioned this before.
I've been told in the past thatI talk too much.
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I was told once by a person whoI shared a podcast with that I
talk too much and I think thatthis is my way of being really
funny about it and humorousabout it.
It might be true that I talktoo much.
Well, I talk about it andhumorous about it.
Might be true that I talk toomuch, but I actually think that
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sometimes people who are toldthat they talk too much, it's
not so much that we use up toomany words, because then we try
to talk in whatever way theywant us to talk, it doesn't work
.
But, like, I think sometimes wetalk about the wrong things.
You know, we talk about thingsthat people might be
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uncomfortable with or it mightbe that they're not talking
enough.
So, and I think that was thecase for this, this other
podcaster that I that I workedwith, briefly and honestly, I'm
kind of glad that that ended,because I don't think that it
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would have gone very far anyway.
But so I enjoy these every weekand I also, you know, I think
that there was a time in my lifewhen I really did talk a lot
more than I talk now.
But you know, I do have aGemini moon and we love to talk.
It's just, you know, it's it'smy nature.
I mean, I'm a teacher, I talklike we, we just some, some
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people just really, really liketo talk and it's our way of kind
of processing how we understandthe world and kind of
processing how we understand theworld and and so hopefully, you
know, there people will getsome value from my capacity to
to talk too much.
But anyway, I've embraced itand and so that's why it's
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called Patty Patty talks toomuch, because I kind of I laugh
about it now.
Maybe I do, maybe I don't, Idon't care, I talk too much,
whatever.
So anyway, I want to give athank you to the people who
might be joining us from aroundthe country.
There are a lot of people andaround the world who check out
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our podcast, as far as Japan,iceland, places in Europe and
throughout North America.
So we appreciate you popping inand listening in on our
conversation and we hope that webring some value to your week.
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We're going to jump into this.
We were just talking about howbroadly we want this like the
reach of what we do on Saturdaymornings.
So I think we've done 16podcasts so far, and so this is
like the 17th, and I go back andforth about it.
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When I first started thispodcast, this is something that
I wanted to share with you,enoki.
We really appreciate this.
When I first started thispodcast, I had completely purged
and I think that this ishealthy.
It's almost like doing acleanse, but like a spiritual
cleanse.
I think that every once in awhile, you have to look at all
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your contacts, you have to lookat all those people you follow
online, all of that stuff, andsay does this still resonate
with me, is this still alignedwith my sensibilities?
And if it's not, delete, delete, delete, delete.
And I think that that's what Idid, especially after that
situation with a woman who wasdoing a podcast with me.
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After that I actually purged awhole bunch of channels that I
followed, pages that I followed,just delete.
I don't want to have anythingto do with you, I don't want to
know what you're doing.
I just want to completely clearmy life of all of these light
worker type spiritual folks whoyou know I don't resonate with
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anymore like some people.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Some people are out there, just, you know, there for
a show, you know there's adifference between feeling
something and and living it likeit loses its humility, like you
know, after a while, likesomething really beautiful,
could become like kind of vulgarand shaming you know, any, any
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like extreme group.
You know you end up, you end upreally hurt by, because you're
blindsided by it, becausethey're supposed to be, you know
, the best people you know, andthen you feel so betrayed and
you want to protect yourself andyou want to keep yourself safe.
You know it's sometimes I feellike certain places in the
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spiritual communities that I'vebeen have been just as harsh as
certain places in the christiancommunity is just the extremism
of any direction, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We've talked about this, I so agree with you.
And like so much of my life hasbeen like trying to escape one
extreme and falling into asituation where I'm dealing with
another.
And I think along the way, ifyou don't get bitter, you get
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really wise.
Good morning, you grow wisdom.
Good morning, taylor.
We were just, you know, I Istarted off talking just kind of
thanking folks who might belistening in around the world,
you know, because we do havefolks who kind of tune in from
Norway and different placesaround around the world.
You know, because we do havefolks who kind of tune in from
Norway and different placesaround around the world and
around North America and it's,you know, nice to have people
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pop in and listen in on ourconversations, and so I was just
kind of doing a little recapbut, you know, also talking
about escaping a lot of, or oractually it began, I think we
talked about like purging, likeevery once in a while, like
doing a cleanse.
Like those of us who arespiritual, sometimes we have to
kind of do a cleanse of thepeople we're connected with and
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the sites and the channels andthe people we follow and
everything.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's like saying, you know does this still resonate
with me?
Because I think this is becauseyeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think it might be toxic at this point.
So maybe I should.
You know, just like a cleanse.
It's like, let me get rid ofthat.
I was.
I was just sharing just brieflywhen I had that very brief
podcast.
After that it was like I did apurge and I just kind of just
disengaged with a lot, of, a lotof folks that I had been
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following for years and I justkind of cut it off and I was
talking to a kind of a womanwho's a visionary that I, that I
speak to every once in a while,and she was like, yeah,
spiritual people have to do that.
We have to do a cleanse everyonce in a while and just clear
the slate and then add in whatyeah, add in what resonates as
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you go, but absolutely, enokispending time and Enoki and I
were talking about how reclusivewe've gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's really funny Whenever that happens in my life
like a special or somebody thatwas relevant gets cleansed, or
somebody that was relevant getscleansed.
Isn't it interesting howsomeone new always finds their
way in or something happens towhere you know that it was meant
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to be or something new iscoming?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
So many times I've, you know, decided I'm going to
be done with this person.
But it would make me lonely.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If you have a genuine connection, though, then years
can go by, you reconnect andit's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, yeah.
So sometimes you know you lookat something one way for so long
you got to step away from it.
I've been working on myself andthings that I haven't been
feeling so great about.
You know, before I really getback into drawing a lot of light
to myself.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Listen, I just want to.
I'm hearing an echo.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I have a headphone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You have your headphones in too.
Why am I hearing that echo?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't have a headphones today.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, you don't have headphones today.
Does one of the kids have yourheadphones?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Porter bathed my headphones in a jar of peanut
butter and they were notrecoverable when I started this,
my intention was I was justgoing to start from zero.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I was just going to start from zero.
We were going to have theseconversations and just see who
finds it.
It's really about us hangingout really.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But I think that kind of attitude brings
synchronicities to the tablethat are like really beautiful,
because the people who are meantto find it will yeah exactly.
Because we're not pushing it ina certain direction or pushing
a certain agenda.
If it resonates with you andyou come across to us, it was
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Really it's food for thought, everything, all of it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And you're not.
Yeah, I mean, we're also notbeholden, Like I didn't want to
be beholden, to people who knewme five, 10 years ago and
expected something, Because thewoman that they knew five, 10
years ago she's changed.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, listen, I'm exhausted, as per usual.
I'm on the cusp of runningmyself into the ground at work,
but it's funny how those lessonscome through.
My lesson this week LOL toanybody from work watching but
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my lesson this week was to learnhow to shut the fuck up 36.
Still learning.
I've shut the fuck up.
It's funny how you found out I'mgonna be, I can be such a
mature professional.
And then I find myself angrywith myself, because why the
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fuck did you have to say that onthe the outside, that if I get
pushed far enough, I'm gonna saythe thing said some things
that's always been the case.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean, it's kind of like you you embrace chaos and
so you think like chaos doesn'thave a voice.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, no, no.
I just sit in the caboose ofthis roller coaster and hope
that I can see the next turncoming and know that there's a
drop coming at some point, butI'm on for the ride.
A lot of times I referencechaos to the way that we discuss
good and bad.
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Right, good cannot existwithout bad.
Ying yang, chaos and order arethe same.
There would be no order ifthere was no chaos.
Everything we know cosmicallywas born from chaos.
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Right, the stars exploding, allof that organized chaos.
So I resonate with that,because that's even how creation
came about.
And I'm not saying I dislikeorder, because there is a time
and a place for order.
I do, however, as you dotooatti, in your own way.
I love to devil's advocate someshit and stir the pot a little.
On occasion, you do thesethings.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sure, are you going to share the moment when you
thought you should shut the fuckup?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Wait, did you find out?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Did you find out?
I always find out because Ifuck around, um.
So there was an instance where,um I was waiting on a very
large party of young people.
It was was an event afterschool event.
It was late.
They all come in.
There's not an adult with them.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's like a graduation celebration kind of
thing.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So they're all in sequins.
They can't even fit in thechairs because the girls'
dresses are too tight.
What made it work?
There's 16 of them.
They all want separate checks.
I was only with one otherperson on the floor, with two
people running the entirerestaurant.
I'm running the food, I'mgreeting the tables, I'm waiting
on the tables, I'm busting thetables, I'm I'm doing all of the
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work right.
I had a 10 top and a seven topand a four top and a five top
and two top.
We were slammed.
So when it came time for checks, they wanted 16 separate checks
.
That's going to take a second,so I go to the and a parent
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arrives and we say hello, wegreet each other, I'm telling
her I'm, you know, getting thesechecks ready.
They had clearly the adults hadclearly been out, perhaps
cocktailing or something.
So the father comes in likewhat, what's taking so long?
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And, um, he says to me how werethey?
To which I had alreadyresponded to the wife they were
angels.
However, as he asks me to, Ihear everything.
I hear the mom look at the sonand say upon him what should I
tip her?
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To which the son responded zero.
So this is all simultaneouslyhappening, while the husband
says to me how were they?
And you know my slick ass.
I responded with they were greatuntil right now and walked away
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, to which I was followed by themother down the galley and
verbally went in on me and Iexplained to her how could you
treat children like that?
She says to me Baby, I didn'ttreat children like that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She says to me baby.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I didn't like anything.
I said I gave your children thesame service that I would have
given my sons had they beensitting at a table with their
friends on prom night.
That is a memorable night.
I wanted it to be special forthem.
I didn't get to do things likethat.
I treat children better than Itreat adults at tables, I
promise so.
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Uh, I was.
I was like that's, that's nothow this happened, et cetera, et
cetera.
I tried to, you know, discussit with her.
She was not having it.
She walks back to the table andtells everyone all 16 of them.
Don't tip her at all, let's go.
These kids get up and leave.
Not all their tabs were paid.
(18:30):
What Upon fucking around, Idecided to go outside and get my
tabs paid.
Second mistake so I get outside.
Husband and wife are in a verynice luxury vehicle and I'm like
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, hey, there's an unpaid tab.
I do apologize for everythingthat happened inside, um, but I
do need this tab paid.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I mean, you do need to pay for your food.
So you're telling them.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's not the tip and you're telling them to run out
on their tabs.
Great parenting.
I finally realized I'm notgoing to get anywhere with this
woman.
I have to stop on that and,trust me, I've already made it
ahead Like that's time to stop.
So I say you know what, forgetabout it, I'll eat this tab.
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You know you guys have a greatnight.
So what she responds oh well,you're not going to have a great
night.
So when she responds, oh well,you're not gonna have a good
night, you're harassing us.
Now she comes back inside therestaurant to then across my
manager and at some point Ishould have walked away, but I
sat there and continued.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now listen, I come from a different place so they
can't walk out on you shouldhave gone and got a manager.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, the manager I had already I had already okay,
but at the end of the day, itshouldn't have gone down that
way.
As a parent, you should havehandled that differently.
As a server, I should havehandled it differently.
Um so, because it's been a longtime since I've been a server a
bartended for years but, I havethis thing about me where I take
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my job and it's a serving jobright, I'm walking.
My mind is set Like I'm asurgeon, like I take my job so
seriously that I'm going to giveyou the best service.
Right, it's like do you evenknow how far above and beyond
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have gone for you?
Or let me show you what goodservices, even though I know the
last few times you've come inyou've left me zero dollars.
I always keep this channel open, like this channel that the
good is coming to me, the moneyis coming to me, the lucky table
, but one table that's the onetable can fuck up your night.
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And then there's another tablethat's going to come in and
change that's going to make it.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know that's going to make an authentic connection
.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, okay, you never know who you're gonna meet who
you're gonna wait, you have noidea what experiences you're
gonna have.
I learned that on palm beachisland, waiting on people on
palm beach island.
At 16 years old, I waited onpeople that I didn't even know
were famous, so it was reallyfunny how I learned how to
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behave at that age, but to alsonever take anything.
You know, take advantage of thesituation.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that was your training ground.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It was, it was, and what a beautiful place.
I mean, I waited on a lot ofreally awesome people.
I've waited on some wonderful,wonderful, you know people who
are high up there.
I'll never forget the maestro.
What a wonderful man, wonderfulconversation.
Conversations had with him, butbut it prepared me.
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It was a precipice for mebecoming a really great server
and a really great serviceindustry member, because I
treated everybody like they were.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know someone special when you think about the
interaction that you had lastnight you began the conversation
with.
I should have shut the fuck up.
Yes, I actually think that allall right and I could be wrong,
so correct me, I'm wrong justfrom like this perspective right
?
I think that it wasn't so much Ishould have shut the fuck up.
(22:52):
I think that your perspectivelike you, you are able to read a
room, you are able to read atable and you are able to kind
of adjust your perspective andyour expectations accordingly
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and I think that there were partof you was getting this
information on this table like,oh boy, there's a bunch of young
kids during their little tightdresses, blah, blah, all this
stuff.
Like you were getting thesemessages, but for some reason, I
think some of those messagesthat would could have been
warning flags about this tableand you would have strategized
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accordingly and put yourperspective according to these
red flags.
I think and tell me if I'mwrong there were also young
people, teenagers, and you haveteenagers and there was
something that canceled out yourspidey sense.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean I would definitely bestowed as much
grace as I had to give thatnight on that table and you know
there's so many tables likethat in a day and at the end of
the day, when I say I shouldhave shut the fuck up was really
when my manager came out andhad to put his hand up at me,
like it's time for you to shutthe fuck up.
And you know I have problemswith authority, but I also have
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a sense about me that becomesauthoritative because I do like
a manager for the most part.
Now, my mouth might not actthat way all the time but yes, I
gauge my tables based on allsorts of things and I read all
of that, I know what you'redoing.
I know how I have to speak whenI walk up to this table.
As a matter of fact, my managerwas laughing at me the other
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night because I had this reallyadorbs gay couple.
And so I got to the table and Iwas like how is it Like, how
are we doing over here?
And then I get to another tableand I'm like y'all all right,
can I get y'all anything Right?
And he's like what fuckingrange was that just there?
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I'm like the restaurant floor ismy stage darling.
So what's the takeaway?
The bottom line is hindsight'salways 20-20.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And I love when grace washes over me.
And even at 36, I'm stilllearning how to not let people
get my goat Because, at the endof the day, although I let that
woman get to me because thepeople around me see me, because
I'm so authentic and and sogenuine and I bust my ass so
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hard, I made more money thatnight on donations for, for from
from guests that weren't evenmine.
And then another beautifulthing happened.
It was the universe going.
We love you.
I go to my little restaurantbehind my house.
I go there a lot, but when wego there I tip an excessive
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amount of money Because thesepeople bust their ass and they
do everything like I do.
I mean this restaurant is run bythe servers and bartender.
Big respect for them.
I always tip them 80 to 100%.
I'm talking 80 on a hundreddollar check.
Sure, I love them, they deserveit and I.
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That's my backyard, so I wantthem to know that I'm going to
take care of them when I come in.
Yeah, you're being a goodneighbor too it just so happened
that while all this drama isunfolding in the middle of the
restaurant, the bartender frommy neighbors is sitting in my
restaurant, in my section,watching it all go down and
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understanding with an innerknowledge.
I'm also in the business andthis is crazy as hell.
So when I, when he leaves, helooks at me and he hands me a
fat stack of cash and he saidfuck them kids.
Yeah, and he left me, like youknow, a copious amount of money
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to to make up for it, and it wasafter he walked out, everything
washed away and in the interimof that, I've still made all
that money and the universe haswinked at me, like you see what
you give comes back to you, andthat's why I do what I do and,
moving forward, I know that moreis expected of me.
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Right, I am a leader and I am anexample for the younger girls
that I work with.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Exactly, exactly.
You're a model and I, my only,my only thought as you were
talking was because you knowthis, you know that it's all
going to balance out.
You know that you get a shittytable, you'll have five good
ones that follow.
So my only thought is whenyou're coming into that moment
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where it's like, oh, this isgoing south, these folks are
nasty or they're not going totip, or whatever, that if you
can be buoyed with the knowledgethat you already have that I'm
going to have five to ten tables, we're going to make up for
these folks.
So you know what?
I'm going to have five to 10tables, we're going to make up
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for these folks.
So you know what?
I'm going to be happy, eventhough they're trying to stick
it to me.
I'm going to be so happy because, like you, can still smile,
because you know what's coming,because it came before.
It's always come.
It's always come for you.
It's kind of like anopportunity to practice your own
beliefs.
Yes, like in real time.
(28:37):
Yeah, you know as it in, in themoment, as it's happening.
It's like as the shit is comingto you.
You know it's okay.
You know I'm not going tocompromise the way I am right
now I can be at peace in myheart and even joyful, because I
know that good things arecoming.
It's a way to kind of interceptthose moments of reaction yeah
(29:03):
because I I think that's whatgets us in trouble is our react,
like we get into a reactivestate and and looking back at,
like all of the you know, thesereactive issues.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's like after after Phoenix, after living in a
place where the only thing thatmattered was true survival, not
even of your body but of yourspirit, and a place that would
pull you down so far, like StJude when you leave that, that
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these fucking problems don'tseem like problems, and I think
a lot of my frustration comesfrom that.
I'm like are you fucking reallymad about a pair of shoes or a
sandwich to the point that youneed to verbally accost someone?
It's crazy.
There are bigger thingshappening in the world and I
think that a lot of myfrustrations and want to put
people in their place comes fromthat, but I have to understand
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that those are my lessons, right?
I understand those things froma perspective that I'm not
saying it's higher, but it'scoming from a different place, a
place of wisdom and pain.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I want to keep coming back to this because I think
our world is full of reaction.
I think that everywhere youlook in our culture, it's
reaction, reaction, reaction,reaction.
And reaction, in its essence,is really a destructive force.
Reaction is a destructive force.
(30:32):
Now, I'm not talking about whenwe are defending, you know,
when we, when we rise, we riseup, we stand up, we do what we
need to do to defend someone wecare about, right?
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about likeeverything is reaction, and you
see these crazy videos of peoplegoing in and assaulting people
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at a fast food restaurantbecause they didn't get enough
ice in their soda or likewhatever.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean like people are losing their mind, like the
kids at school, attacking theteachers.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Exactly it's reaction , normalized like this is just
normal.
Action is not normal, it is adestructive.
It is a destructive inclination.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So when I become reactive, I think that I'm
indestructible, right, like thatrage comes out and I'm like
nobody can fucking touch me.
But that's not the case.
You know, I should have stayedinside the restaurant because,
at the end of a day, people arefucking crazy and people will
(31:53):
shoot you over a fucking cup ofice, right.
Fucking crazy, and people willshoot you over a fucking cup of
ice, right.
So I shouldn't be chasingcustomers outside thinking that
I'm invincible, right, becauseI'm not and there are crazy
people out there that will puthands on you, or will you?
know things against you rightand so that would be a lindahl
of of my reprimanding was that Ineed to be more safe, which I
(32:18):
don't disagree with.
But it's that feeling and thatreaction you immediately are
like, but really it comes fromthe way I was raised and that
because in South Florida it'shard for everyone.
It's a struggle, right, thestruggle is real.
No, it really is a struggle tosurvive.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I think that's why I want to, you know, be out of
South Florida all the time, youknow, and like I've left and
gone back and left and gone back, and left and gone back and I
can't quite leave, you know,because there's some kind of
Mullen Child Syndrome thing,masochism, I don't know.
I've wanted to be apart from itbecause I feel like it's hurt
(33:01):
me for so long and every timeI'm away from there I feel so
good and it's so nice to justlike breathe and it's just like
a relief.
You know, it's like that quietand that's like what I was
talking about.
Like it's like that quiet,that's what I was talking about
(33:22):
really enjoying that and workingon the things that I'm not
necessarily comfortable withmyself.
Building myself up anddeveloping that real
relationship with what's goingon with me without everybody's
opinion about it.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Having the space to heal and to to care for yourself
.
I just wanted to share that.
I've been on a?
Um reading.
You know I love my books and soI think that, um, I'll also be
sharing books, that um, that I'mreading and I'm getting stuff
out of.
So, um, just to start off, andTaylor, I definitely like I hope
you're grabbing your cards,your medicine cards or whatever,
because that would be reallyawesome.
(33:59):
So Taylor, actually, besidesbeing an herbalist, she is also
intuitive and she, she's, she,she has her medicine cards and
she pulls cards and I've oftenfound readings by her very, very
helpful.
So I wanted to incorporate that.
And I also I'm a reader.
I go through these jags, like Igo through periods where I
(34:19):
don't read and then I go throughperiods where I can't get
enough books.
So right now, just to sharevery briefly, I am on a Malcolm
Gladwell kick Now.
Malcolm Gladwell wrote theTipping Point and Blink he's.
You know he's a nonfictionwriter and I love, I love his
(34:41):
stuff, I love his style.
He I just finished the bookOutliers, and Outliers is it's
it's a story.
It's, it's um, he basicallytalks about people who have been
successful successful inathletics, successful in
business or whatever, um.
He basically talks about peoplewho have been successful
successful in athletics,successful in business or
whatever, um, in school andwhatever and he kind of
demystifies it.
And there are some surprisingthings that I learned um in this
(35:08):
book and I will just share onestory.
So you have the rice pattypeople who grew up in the
regions of China and, I think,in somewhat Japan, but in that
region where they are rice pattyworkers and if you have a rice
patty it is like the size ofmaybe your apartment, right,
(35:29):
it's very.
The rice patties are very small, but the work to make a rice
patty productive is someticulous and so complex and so
hard that it's it's it's really, and basically the culture says
you have to get up early, youhave to be like everything is
(36:01):
about hard work and focus andbeing meticulous and all of this
and that's in the culture ofthe people who grow up in these
regions of rice paddies.
It just so happens that fromthose very same regions come
people who are really, reallygood at math and a lot of times
(36:33):
we make the assumption oh,they're Asian.
So they who are extraordinaryat math come from rice paddy
regions where the culture wasvery much about you stick to it,
you stick to it, you stick toit, you stick to it.
You know, and it's very muchpart of the culture, and so they
apply that to the challenges ofmath and become extraordinary
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at math.
But it isn't that they have amore of an aptitude or that
they're smarter they're not.
They come from a culture that,literally, is the perfect
culture to grow people who arereally good at math.
Because if you're going to begood at math, you have to have
the quality of sticking toproblem solving and sticking to
(37:19):
it and sticking to it andsticking to it till you figure
it out and and most of us willlook at a math problem and we'll
be there for like a few minutesand it's like I can't do it, I
can't, I just don't have it, Ijust don't, I'm just not that
smart and and that's not howmath works.
So that was just one example ofhow, you know, he demystifies
(37:41):
some of the attitudes that wehave about people who are
particularly successful in heirs.
Anyway, that was just oneexample, and there are so many
in this book.
I love this book.
I am now.
I am now reading talking tostrangers.
Talking to strangers is reallyabout the kinds of assumptions
and everything that we make whenwe're talking to strangers and
how sometimes our lack ofunderstanding results in tragedy
(38:06):
, and so I don't want to givetoo much away.
I'll talk about that next week.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I'm reading a book called Abundance Alchemy and
it's really stuck with me.
I'm reading a book calledAbundance Alchemy and it's
really stuck with me and I waslistening to you talk and the
author of my book is an Asianwoman who discusses societal
norms and what's expected, youknow, in these cultures where
(38:33):
she's from, to be the best andmake the most and have this
house, but at the end of the dayit's all the alchemical
abundance of how we manifestthings.
So really interesting that yousaid that, because I was
listening to you and I'm likemath is a form of alchemy, yeah,
(38:55):
it is listening to you and I'mlike that's.
Math is a form of alchemy.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it is so um so today I'm going to be pulling a
card for the collective and anduh, so can we, can we like, set
our intention that what do weneed to know, or what do we need
to take in, or what would behelpful as we move into next
week?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
at this moment, yeah, this, this deck is the animal
spirit guidebook.
Um, it's the wild unknown bykim kranz, wonderful illustrator
, wonderful, wonderful author.
She writes children's books.
She's phenomenal, phenomenalwriter, um, and I resonate with
how she uses animals,particularly in this deck, to
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send us messages.
Like totems, like animal totems, yes yes, and what they
represent so collectively, ifthere is a message coming
through where we are with thesun we didn't even get to talk
about, you know how we all feelafter all these, these, these.
X-rays Um but with everythinggoing on and what, and you know
(40:02):
where we are with the stars, um,what animal can collectively
deliver us a message that cancarry us through this week with
a little wisdom, a little pieceof alchemical gold?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yep, I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
So I'm going to go ahead and pull.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Let's do this.
You'll love this, guys it's ahawk.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Wow, all right, so we're looking at hawk medicine
for the coming week for all ofus hawk medicine and I think
that all three of us can deeplyrelate to hawk.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I think that all three of us have some serious
hawk medicine yeah, in our totem.
Um, sometimes I look at enokiand I'm like she is definitely
like one of your closer totemslike right with me in the car I
had a hawk florida, that wouldcome when I called him.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, I remember that .
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And one day, before I moved, I said can you just
leave me a piece of you?
And he shook and dropped afeather.
I think we just discussed thisrecently.
So, anyways, this is what Hawksays to us everyone Be watchful.
All-seeing and a messenger ofdivinity.
(41:40):
The sharp eyes of Hawk watchour every move.
This keen-eyed bird has theability to see every little
detail as well as the biggerpicture.
When this card appears, fatehas its eyes on you and the
winds are shifting.
(42:01):
It is said that hawk carriesnews upon its wings and is sent
from divinity to deliver it.
The message should not be takenlightly.
Though it may seem small orinsignificant, it can and will
eventually redirect your entirecourse.
So when in balance with HawkMedicine, we can see clearly, we
(42:24):
can feel our intuition.
It's crisp, it's clear, it'sthere.
When it's out of balance, wesee too much or we become
suspicious.
And to bring it into balance,nothing like a good perspective
shift.
And when I talk about HawkMedicine to others, I use the
(42:46):
example of the viewpoint,because Hawk, like eagle, flies
above us and sees this verybroad, I mean all the way to the
horizon.
Right, many of us that can lookto the future or look out at
(43:07):
the world and, like we weresaying about tables, you know be
able to see everything going on.
But they also have this otherability see everything going on.
But they also have this otherability where, like mouse, who
can only scrutinize because theycan only see this much around
them.
That's right.
Hawk can do that.
Hawk can hone in on somethingright before right.
(43:30):
Hawk can but hyper focus onsomething and it becomes an
attack, sometimes right andhunting or what have you.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
So hawk has has a dual, a dual ability to to see
closely if it needs to, but toalso see the broad picture, the
whole of reality you know, whatI think is really wonderful
about this message, in what, inhow it's connected to what we've
been talking about, Taylor isthat remember you know how we've
(44:03):
been talking about beingreactive, and a lot of times
what's happening when we'rebeing reactive is that we're
super hyper focused on exactlywhat's in front of us and we
don't have.
We don't have the view, theHawkeye view of the wider,
that's right, the widerperspective.
And if we can, uh, if we can dothat, if we can um, um allow
(44:27):
ourselves to have that, yeah,that, that, that perspective.
Um, then it can pull us out ofthis tunnel vision that we often
fall into when we're beingreactive.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, Get out of that box, right, get out of that box
, yeah.
And I want everyone who'slistening to pay attention, so
like if Hawk says we've got thismessage, that something's
coming and it may seem small andinsignificant.
(45:05):
Nothing in this world canreally be that small and
insignificant, right, becauseone tiny pebble can create a
snowball.
Right, and also understandingdiscernment, right, not
everything needs a reaction.
Now there is one juicy mousedown there that is going to get
(45:25):
it right.
That that's.
That's we're going.
We're going for this oneparticular thing, but we cannot
hyper fixate on that.
So pay attention to yoursurroundings when you're
outdoors and see in the nextweek if you can spot a hawk in
nature.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
So do you want to know another really, really
amazing thing about hawks?
Yeah, how, when you're too farinto something, it can be,
overwhelming is the fact that ahawk can't see anything close up
, so they can only hyper fixatefrom afar and in the moment.
(46:08):
They have to be on point and ithas to be precise, otherwise
it's all for naught and it'sgonna start over, or is it?
Have you actually, you know,flown from high enough to see
what it is that you're hyperfixating on and have you timed
your reaction right?
(46:28):
I think is is the thing withwith hawk medicine, and I think
that that's why now in life,like I I, when I say it, I'm
always like, oh, I gotta stepback and and see, you know, or I
can't react because, becauseit's happening too fast for me
(46:48):
to make that, that calculatedstrike, that that exact
precision you know maneuver.
It's hard to find that timingin life.
You can't really take care of asituation in the middle of it I
had a different experience lastweek.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
After the um, after the podcast, I um, I went for a
walk in the, in the forest.
It was beautiful and I walkedright up on a deer.
Um wait, but what about?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
your owl.
Well, I medicine coming, yeah Idid, I did gentleness and
discernment.
But the story of deer patty isa really badass story.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You saw an owl this week I saw an owl a week ago, a
big um.
What do you call the ones thatare the horn?
A great horn sitting right outsitting right out behind my
house, just sitting on a branchlooking at me going through the
job interview and shit like yeahmaybe they're gonna move.
(47:53):
I honestly think there's bigchange coming and I'm just kind
of trying to be chill about itreally great example of what
we've been talking about todaytoo, because the deer is known
for gentleness.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
However, in the story of deer the deer, all the
animals are afraid to go to thetop of the mountain, because the
top of the mountain is this,this, this demon.
Right, and this demon won't letanybody reach the top of the
mountain.
And all the other animals arelike I just I can't.
They are that that demon upthere?
Oh no, thank you, I don't wantany part in it, I don't.
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And the deer says much likepatty's spirit.
The deer is like that's okay,I'm going to go talk to him
anyways, I'm not afraid.
And so the deer makes its way upto the top of the mountain and
here's this giant demon.
You can't pass, you can't getto the top of the mountain.
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And so deer says it's okay, Ilove you, you're loved, and I'm
not afraid of you.
And I, I'm gonna get to the topof the mountain.
And in doing so, and inrelinquishing that fear and that
power, the demon shrunk tonothing.
(49:09):
And so deer continued on, butin gentleness.
One a battle that the answer,the true answer, was melting the
hatred in one's heart, butwinning with gentleness, being
softer.
(49:30):
What a beautiful lesson.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, it's a great lesson and I definitely think I
am really excited to be movinginto that.
That time, that era in my lifewhere I lead with gentleness,
because I think that so much ofmy you know, I mean I had so
many, so many challenges and Ithink it.
(49:54):
You know, I lived with a bit ofan edge, a defensiveness, and I
was, I was, I did have atendency to to be reactive,
upset and reactive a lot, and Ithink that I have.
I've moved out of that and I'vebeen in transition for a while
and, by the way, likeastrologically, my North node,
(50:15):
which is where I'm heading, isin libra and I think, like it's
really the message for my lifeis all it has been really about
finding balance, finding balance, finding balance.
I really do think that thereare some changes and there are
some revelations coming to usthat'll be challenging for our
psyche but it'll challenge our,our core beliefs about things
(50:37):
like the sun, things like themoon and the challenges don't
stop and the reactions don'tstop.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
So it's it's.
It's how we move exactly, it'show we move through the moon
phases and and how we are usingour awareness to know.
Okay, I'm feeling more reactivetoday and it just so happens
that the moon is in Taurus and Ishould probably just bite my
(51:04):
tongue on this one.
You know, we kind of just haveto be more aware and go with the
flow.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's that, it's what I think we're being called to do
is to find the balance, to pullback reaction, because there's
plenty of reaction in some guruway, but just teaching through
example.
I think the more that we can bein balance, the more that we
(51:42):
can find the gentle way throughthe chaos, through these
challenging, chaotic times.
I think it's, it'll be a valueto people, the people around us.
I think so that's, that's myhope, that's my.
You know, that's kind of what Iwant to do with the students I
work with, with the people Iinteract with, you know, and do
(52:02):
it with humor too.
I think we we have to make surewe don't lose our sense of
humor.
And then you have to deal withcoyote and we'll get to coyote
next week, so we're going toleave it there and thank folks
who have um checked out the livestream, have checked out or
(52:24):
listened in to the podcast.
If you you know.
If you really like what we'reputting out, you can.
I usually don't ask people tolike, hit the like button or
follow or whatever, but ifyou're still inclined,
definitely you can do that.
We just appreciate you droppingby and listening in on our
conversation so we certainlyenjoy it every day.
(52:48):
Any last words, you guys,before we sign off.
I love you guys.
Be loved, be loved, be loved,be loved, be loved.
As always, this has been such apleasure and I certainly look
forward to doing this all againnext week.
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
We love you.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I love you too.
if you are joining us from any of the live stream
sites or if you're joining uslater on podcast, you know, on
our podcast then we want to saythank you for joining us.
Thank you for popping in.
My name's Patty with PattyTalks Too Much.
And this is my dear friendEnoki.
(00:32):
We are expecting, expectingTaylor, taylor.
Often, you know, she works, andbecause she's a waitress, she
works very, very late on Fridaynights and so Saturday mornings
can be a little rough for her,so sometimes she arrives a
little later, so we look forwardto her showing up.
(00:55):
But I do want to say just a fewwords on who we are.
So we're not gurus, we're not,you know.
We're ordinary women who, um,came together years ago, met at
a little cafe that I ran inSouth Florida, and we are, um,
(01:17):
we're deep thinking women, we'rerebellious women, um, we're um
kind of outliers in our ownrespect and, um, you know we've
taken our hits for that, um, butwe come together, uh, our, our
bond has remained over the yearsand the cafe is long gone and
(01:37):
we live in different places now,um, and our bond has continued,
and so this is a weekly timethat we connect and have a
conversation about what's goingon in our lives, what's going on
in the world, how we understandit different perspectives, but
(02:05):
it's a conversation that we doonce a week and we do hope that
if you're popping in and intoour conversation and listening
in, that you find some value inlistening in to a conversation
among three ordinary women whoare kind of extraordinary in our
own right in terms of the kindsof things that we, in terms of
the kinds of things that we'vedone or the kinds of things that
(02:25):
we've experienced or endeavoredin our lives, and we kind of
bring all of that into ourconversations.
There might be if you're new,you might wonder why it's.
Patty talks too much and I'vementioned this before.
I've been told in the past thatI talk too much.
(02:47):
I was told once by a person whoI shared a podcast with that I
talk too much and I think thatthis is my way of being really
funny about it and humorousabout it.
It might be true that I talktoo much.
Well, I talk about it andhumorous about it.
Might be true that I talk toomuch, but I actually think that
(03:10):
sometimes people who are toldthat they talk too much, it's
not so much that we use up toomany words, because then we try
to talk in whatever way theywant us to talk, it doesn't work
.
But, like, I think sometimes wetalk about the wrong things.
You know, we talk about thingsthat people might be
(03:33):
uncomfortable with or it mightbe that they're not talking
enough.
So, and I think that was thecase for this, this other
podcaster that I that I workedwith, briefly and honestly, I'm
kind of glad that that ended,because I don't think that it
(03:54):
would have gone very far anyway.
But so I enjoy these every weekand I also, you know, I think
that there was a time in my lifewhen I really did talk a lot
more than I talk now.
But you know, I do have aGemini moon and we love to talk.
It's just, you know, it's it'smy nature.
I mean, I'm a teacher, I talklike we, we just some, some
(04:15):
people just really, really liketo talk and it's our way of kind
of processing how we understandthe world and kind of
processing how we understand theworld and and so hopefully, you
know, there people will getsome value from my capacity to
to talk too much.
But anyway, I've embraced itand and so that's why it's
(04:38):
called Patty Patty talks toomuch, because I kind of I laugh
about it now.
Maybe I do, maybe I don't, Idon't care, I talk too much,
whatever.
So anyway, I want to give athank you to the people who
might be joining us from aroundthe country.
There are a lot of people andaround the world who check out
(04:58):
our podcast, as far as Japan,iceland, places in Europe and
throughout North America.
So we appreciate you popping inand listening in on our
conversation and we hope that webring some value to your week.
(05:21):
We're going to jump into this.
We were just talking about howbroadly we want this like the
reach of what we do on Saturdaymornings.
So I think we've done 16podcasts so far, and so this is
like the 17th, and I go back andforth about it.
(05:43):
When I first started thispodcast, this is something that
I wanted to share with you,enoki.
We really appreciate this.
When I first started thispodcast, I had completely purged
and I think that this ishealthy.
It's almost like doing acleanse, but like a spiritual
cleanse.
I think that every once in awhile, you have to look at all
(06:04):
your contacts, you have to lookat all those people you follow
online, all of that stuff, andsay does this still resonate
with me, is this still alignedwith my sensibilities?
And if it's not, delete, delete, delete, delete.
And I think that that's what Idid, especially after that
situation with a woman who wasdoing a podcast with me.
(06:26):
After that I actually purged awhole bunch of channels that I
followed, pages that I followed,just delete.
I don't want to have anythingto do with you, I don't want to
know what you're doing.
I just want to completely clearmy life of all of these light
worker type spiritual folks whoyou know I don't resonate with
(06:49):
anymore like some people.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Some people are out there, just, you know, there for
a show, you know there's adifference between feeling
something and and living it likeit loses its humility, like you
know, after a while, likesomething really beautiful,
could become like kind of vulgarand shaming you know, any, any
(07:13):
like extreme group.
You know you end up, you end upreally hurt by, because you're
blindsided by it, becausethey're supposed to be, you know
, the best people you know, andthen you feel so betrayed and
you want to protect yourself andyou want to keep yourself safe.
You know it's sometimes I feellike certain places in the
(07:35):
spiritual communities that I'vebeen have been just as harsh as
certain places in the christiancommunity is just the extremism
of any direction, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We've talked about this, I so agree with you.
And like so much of my life hasbeen like trying to escape one
extreme and falling into asituation where I'm dealing with
another.
And I think along the way, ifyou don't get bitter, you get
(08:07):
really wise.
Good morning, you grow wisdom.
Good morning, taylor.
We were just, you know, I Istarted off talking just kind of
thanking folks who might belistening in around the world,
you know, because we do havefolks who kind of tune in from
Norway and different placesaround around the world.
You know, because we do havefolks who kind of tune in from
Norway and different placesaround around the world and
around North America and it's,you know, nice to have people
(08:30):
pop in and listen in on ourconversations, and so I was just
kind of doing a little recapbut, you know, also talking
about escaping a lot of, or oractually it began, I think we
talked about like purging, likeevery once in a while, like
doing a cleanse.
Like those of us who arespiritual, sometimes we have to
kind of do a cleanse of thepeople we're connected with and
(08:52):
the sites and the channels andthe people we follow and
everything.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's like saying, you know does this still resonate
with me?
Because I think this is becauseyeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think it might be toxic at this point.
So maybe I should.
You know, just like a cleanse.
It's like, let me get rid ofthat.
I was.
I was just sharing just brieflywhen I had that very brief
podcast.
After that it was like I did apurge and I just kind of just
disengaged with a lot, of, a lotof folks that I had been
(09:22):
following for years and I justkind of cut it off and I was
talking to a kind of a womanwho's a visionary that I, that I
speak to every once in a while,and she was like, yeah,
spiritual people have to do that.
We have to do a cleanse everyonce in a while and just clear
the slate and then add in whatyeah, add in what resonates as
(09:46):
you go, but absolutely, enokispending time and Enoki and I
were talking about how reclusivewe've gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's really funny Whenever that happens in my life
like a special or somebody thatwas relevant gets cleansed, or
somebody that was relevant getscleansed.
Isn't it interesting howsomeone new always finds their
way in or something happens towhere you know that it was meant
(10:16):
to be or something new iscoming?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
So many times I've, you know, decided I'm going to
be done with this person.
But it would make me lonely.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If you have a genuine connection, though, then years
can go by, you reconnect andit's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, yeah.
So sometimes you know you lookat something one way for so long
you got to step away from it.
I've been working on myself andthings that I haven't been
feeling so great about.
You know, before I really getback into drawing a lot of light
to myself.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Listen, I just want to.
I'm hearing an echo.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I have a headphone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You have your headphones in too.
Why am I hearing that echo?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't have a headphones today.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, you don't have headphones today.
Does one of the kids have yourheadphones?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Porter bathed my headphones in a jar of peanut
butter and they were notrecoverable when I started this,
my intention was I was justgoing to start from zero.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I was just going to start from zero.
We were going to have theseconversations and just see who
finds it.
It's really about us hangingout really.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But I think that kind of attitude brings
synchronicities to the tablethat are like really beautiful,
because the people who are meantto find it will yeah exactly.
Because we're not pushing it ina certain direction or pushing
a certain agenda.
If it resonates with you andyou come across to us, it was
meant to be.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Really it's food for thought, everything, all of it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And you're not.
Yeah, I mean, we're also notbeholden, Like I didn't want to
be beholden, to people who knewme five, 10 years ago and
expected something, Because thewoman that they knew five, 10
years ago she's changed.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, listen, I'm exhausted, as per usual.
I'm on the cusp of runningmyself into the ground at work,
but it's funny how those lessonscome through.
My lesson this week LOL toanybody from work watching but
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my lesson this week was to learnhow to shut the fuck up 36.
Still learning.
I've shut the fuck up.
It's funny how you found out I'mgonna be, I can be such a
mature professional.
And then I find myself angrywith myself, because why the
(13:18):
fuck did you have to say that onthe the outside, that if I get
pushed far enough, I'm gonna saythe thing said some things
that's always been the case.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean, it's kind of like you you embrace chaos and
so you think like chaos doesn'thave a voice.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, no, no.
I just sit in the caboose ofthis roller coaster and hope
that I can see the next turncoming and know that there's a
drop coming at some point, butI'm on for the ride.
A lot of times I referencechaos to the way that we discuss
good and bad.
(14:03):
Right, good cannot existwithout bad.
Ying yang, chaos and order arethe same.
There would be no order ifthere was no chaos.
Everything we know cosmicallywas born from chaos.
(14:32):
Right, the stars exploding, allof that organized chaos.
So I resonate with that,because that's even how creation
came about.
And I'm not saying I dislikeorder, because there is a time
and a place for order.
I do, however, as you dotooatti, in your own way.
I love to devil's advocate someshit and stir the pot a little.
On occasion, you do thesethings.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sure, are you going to share the moment when you
thought you should shut the fuckup?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Wait, did you find out?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Did you find out?
I always find out because Ifuck around, um.
So there was an instance where,um I was waiting on a very
large party of young people.
It was was an event afterschool event.
It was late.
They all come in.
There's not an adult with them.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's like a graduation celebration kind of
thing.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So they're all in sequins.
They can't even fit in thechairs because the girls'
dresses are too tight.
What made it work?
There's 16 of them.
They all want separate checks.
I was only with one otherperson on the floor, with two
people running the entirerestaurant.
I'm running the food, I'mgreeting the tables, I'm waiting
on the tables, I'm busting thetables, I'm I'm doing all of the
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work right.
I had a 10 top and a seven topand a four top and a five top
and two top.
We were slammed.
So when it came time for checks, they wanted 16 separate checks
.
That's going to take a second,so I go to the and a parent
(16:23):
arrives and we say hello, wegreet each other, I'm telling
her I'm, you know, getting thesechecks ready.
They had clearly the adults hadclearly been out, perhaps
cocktailing or something.
So the father comes in likewhat, what's taking so long?
(16:45):
And, um, he says to me how werethey?
To which I had alreadyresponded to the wife they were
angels.
However, as he asks me to, Ihear everything.
I hear the mom look at the sonand say upon him what should I
tip her?
(17:05):
To which the son responded zero.
So this is all simultaneouslyhappening, while the husband
says to me how were they?
And you know my slick ass.
I responded with they were greatuntil right now and walked away
(17:27):
, to which I was followed by themother down the galley and
verbally went in on me and Iexplained to her how could you
treat children like that?
She says to me Baby, I didn'ttreat children like that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She says to me baby.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I didn't like anything.
I said I gave your children thesame service that I would have
given my sons had they beensitting at a table with their
friends on prom night.
That is a memorable night.
I wanted it to be special forthem.
I didn't get to do things likethat.
I treat children better than Itreat adults at tables, I
promise so.
(18:10):
Uh, I was.
I was like that's, that's nothow this happened, et cetera, et
cetera.
I tried to, you know, discussit with her.
She was not having it.
She walks back to the table andtells everyone all 16 of them.
Don't tip her at all, let's go.
These kids get up and leave.
Not all their tabs were paid.
(18:30):
What Upon fucking around, Idecided to go outside and get my
tabs paid.
Second mistake so I get outside.
Husband and wife are in a verynice luxury vehicle and I'm like
(18:51):
, hey, there's an unpaid tab.
I do apologize for everythingthat happened inside, um, but I
do need this tab paid.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I mean, you do need to pay for your food.
So you're telling them.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's not the tip and you're telling them to run out
on their tabs.
Great parenting.
I finally realized I'm notgoing to get anywhere with this
woman.
I have to stop on that and,trust me, I've already made it
ahead Like that's time to stop.
So I say you know what, forgetabout it, I'll eat this tab.
(19:30):
You know you guys have a greatnight.
So what she responds oh well,you're not going to have a great
night.
So when she responds, oh well,you're not gonna have a good
night, you're harassing us.
Now she comes back inside therestaurant to then across my
manager and at some point Ishould have walked away, but I
sat there and continued.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now listen, I come from a different place so they
can't walk out on you shouldhave gone and got a manager.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, the manager I had already I had already okay,
but at the end of the day, itshouldn't have gone down that
way.
As a parent, you should havehandled that differently.
As a server, I should havehandled it differently.
Um so, because it's been a longtime since I've been a server a
bartended for years but, I havethis thing about me where I take
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my job and it's a serving jobright, I'm walking.
My mind is set Like I'm asurgeon, like I take my job so
seriously that I'm going to giveyou the best service.
Right, it's like do you evenknow how far above and beyond
(20:46):
have gone for you?
Or let me show you what goodservices, even though I know the
last few times you've come inyou've left me zero dollars.
I always keep this channel open, like this channel that the
good is coming to me, the moneyis coming to me, the lucky table
, but one table that's the onetable can fuck up your night.
(21:07):
And then there's another tablethat's going to come in and
change that's going to make it.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know that's going to make an authentic connection
.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, okay, you never know who you're gonna meet who
you're gonna wait, you have noidea what experiences you're
gonna have.
I learned that on palm beachisland, waiting on people on
palm beach island.
At 16 years old, I waited onpeople that I didn't even know
were famous, so it was reallyfunny how I learned how to
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behave at that age, but to alsonever take anything.
You know, take advantage of thesituation.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that was your training ground.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It was, it was, and what a beautiful place.
I mean, I waited on a lot ofreally awesome people.
I've waited on some wonderful,wonderful, you know people who
are high up there.
I'll never forget the maestro.
What a wonderful man, wonderfulconversation.
Conversations had with him, butbut it prepared me.
(22:16):
It was a precipice for mebecoming a really great server
and a really great serviceindustry member, because I
treated everybody like they were.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know someone special when you think about the
interaction that you had lastnight you began the conversation
with.
I should have shut the fuck up.
Yes, I actually think that allall right and I could be wrong,
so correct me, I'm wrong justfrom like this perspective right
?
I think that it wasn't so much Ishould have shut the fuck up.
(22:52):
I think that your perspectivelike you, you are able to read a
room, you are able to read atable and you are able to kind
of adjust your perspective andyour expectations accordingly
(23:14):
and I think that there were partof you was getting this
information on this table like,oh boy, there's a bunch of young
kids during their little tightdresses, blah, blah, all this
stuff.
Like you were getting thesemessages, but for some reason, I
think some of those messagesthat would could have been
warning flags about this tableand you would have strategized
(23:37):
accordingly and put yourperspective according to these
red flags.
I think and tell me if I'mwrong there were also young
people, teenagers, and you haveteenagers and there was
something that canceled out yourspidey sense.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean I would definitely bestowed as much
grace as I had to give thatnight on that table and you know
there's so many tables likethat in a day and at the end of
the day, when I say I shouldhave shut the fuck up was really
when my manager came out andhad to put his hand up at me,
like it's time for you to shutthe fuck up.
And you know I have problemswith authority, but I also have
(24:23):
a sense about me that becomesauthoritative because I do like
a manager for the most part.
Now, my mouth might not actthat way all the time but yes, I
gauge my tables based on allsorts of things and I read all
of that, I know what you'redoing.
I know how I have to speak whenI walk up to this table.
As a matter of fact, my managerwas laughing at me the other
(24:45):
night because I had this reallyadorbs gay couple.
And so I got to the table and Iwas like how is it Like, how
are we doing over here?
And then I get to another tableand I'm like y'all all right,
can I get y'all anything Right?
And he's like what fuckingrange was that just there?
(25:05):
I'm like the restaurant floor ismy stage darling.
So what's the takeaway?
The bottom line is hindsight'salways 20-20.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And I love when grace washes over me.
And even at 36, I'm stilllearning how to not let people
get my goat Because, at the endof the day, although I let that
woman get to me because thepeople around me see me, because
I'm so authentic and and sogenuine and I bust my ass so
(25:37):
hard, I made more money thatnight on donations for, for from
from guests that weren't evenmine.
And then another beautifulthing happened.
It was the universe going.
We love you.
I go to my little restaurantbehind my house.
I go there a lot, but when wego there I tip an excessive
(26:00):
amount of money Because thesepeople bust their ass and they
do everything like I do.
I mean this restaurant is run bythe servers and bartender.
Big respect for them.
I always tip them 80 to 100%.
I'm talking 80 on a hundreddollar check.
Sure, I love them, they deserveit and I.
(26:22):
That's my backyard, so I wantthem to know that I'm going to
take care of them when I come in.
Yeah, you're being a goodneighbor too it just so happened
that while all this drama isunfolding in the middle of the
restaurant, the bartender frommy neighbors is sitting in my
restaurant, in my section,watching it all go down and
(26:44):
understanding with an innerknowledge.
I'm also in the business andthis is crazy as hell.
So when I, when he leaves, helooks at me and he hands me a
fat stack of cash and he saidfuck them kids.
Yeah, and he left me, like youknow, a copious amount of money
(27:06):
to to make up for it, and it wasafter he walked out, everything
washed away and in the interimof that, I've still made all
that money and the universe haswinked at me, like you see what
you give comes back to you, andthat's why I do what I do and,
moving forward, I know that moreis expected of me.
(27:30):
Right, I am a leader and I am anexample for the younger girls
that I work with.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Exactly, exactly.
You're a model and I, my only,my only thought as you were
talking was because you knowthis, you know that it's all
going to balance out.
You know that you get a shittytable, you'll have five good
ones that follow.
So my only thought is whenyou're coming into that moment
(27:57):
where it's like, oh, this isgoing south, these folks are
nasty or they're not going totip, or whatever, that if you
can be buoyed with the knowledgethat you already have that I'm
going to have five to ten tables, we're going to make up for
these folks.
So you know what?
I'm going to have five to 10tables, we're going to make up
(28:17):
for these folks.
So you know what?
I'm going to be happy, eventhough they're trying to stick
it to me.
I'm going to be so happy because, like you, can still smile,
because you know what's coming,because it came before.
It's always come.
It's always come for you.
It's kind of like anopportunity to practice your own
beliefs.
Yes, like in real time.
(28:37):
Yeah, you know as it in, in themoment, as it's happening.
It's like as the shit is comingto you.
You know it's okay.
You know I'm not going tocompromise the way I am right
now I can be at peace in myheart and even joyful, because I
know that good things arecoming.
It's a way to kind of interceptthose moments of reaction yeah
(29:03):
because I I think that's whatgets us in trouble is our react,
like we get into a reactivestate and and looking back at,
like all of the you know, thesereactive issues.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's like after after Phoenix, after living in a
place where the only thing thatmattered was true survival, not
even of your body but of yourspirit, and a place that would
pull you down so far, like StJude when you leave that, that
(29:35):
these fucking problems don'tseem like problems, and I think
a lot of my frustration comesfrom that.
I'm like are you fucking reallymad about a pair of shoes or a
sandwich to the point that youneed to verbally accost someone?
It's crazy.
There are bigger thingshappening in the world and I
think that a lot of myfrustrations and want to put
people in their place comes fromthat, but I have to understand
(30:00):
that those are my lessons, right?
I understand those things froma perspective that I'm not
saying it's higher, but it'scoming from a different place, a
place of wisdom and pain.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I want to keep coming back to this because I think
our world is full of reaction.
I think that everywhere youlook in our culture, it's
reaction, reaction, reaction,reaction.
And reaction, in its essence,is really a destructive force.
Reaction is a destructive force.
(30:32):
Now, I'm not talking about whenwe are defending, you know,
when we, when we rise, we riseup, we stand up, we do what we
need to do to defend someone wecare about, right?
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about likeeverything is reaction, and you
see these crazy videos of peoplegoing in and assaulting people
(30:57):
at a fast food restaurantbecause they didn't get enough
ice in their soda or likewhatever.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean like people are losing their mind, like the
kids at school, attacking theteachers.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Exactly it's reaction , normalized like this is just
normal.
Action is not normal, it is adestructive.
It is a destructive inclination.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So when I become reactive, I think that I'm
indestructible, right, like thatrage comes out and I'm like
nobody can fucking touch me.
But that's not the case.
You know, I should have stayedinside the restaurant because,
at the end of a day, people arefucking crazy and people will
(31:53):
shoot you over a fucking cup ofice, right.
Fucking crazy, and people willshoot you over a fucking cup of
ice, right.
So I shouldn't be chasingcustomers outside thinking that
I'm invincible, right, becauseI'm not and there are crazy
people out there that will puthands on you, or will you?
know things against you rightand so that would be a lindahl
of of my reprimanding was that Ineed to be more safe, which I
(32:18):
don't disagree with.
But it's that feeling and thatreaction you immediately are
like, but really it comes fromthe way I was raised and that
because in South Florida it'shard for everyone.
It's a struggle, right, thestruggle is real.
No, it really is a struggle tosurvive.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I think that's why I want to, you know, be out of
South Florida all the time, youknow, and like I've left and
gone back and left and gone back, and left and gone back and I
can't quite leave, you know,because there's some kind of
Mullen Child Syndrome thing,masochism, I don't know.
I've wanted to be apart from itbecause I feel like it's hurt
(33:01):
me for so long and every timeI'm away from there I feel so
good and it's so nice to justlike breathe and it's just like
a relief.
You know, it's like that quietand that's like what I was
talking about.
Like it's like that quiet,that's what I was talking about
(33:22):
really enjoying that and workingon the things that I'm not
necessarily comfortable withmyself.
Building myself up anddeveloping that real
relationship with what's goingon with me without everybody's
opinion about it.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Having the space to heal and to to care for yourself
.
I just wanted to share that.
I've been on a?
Um reading.
You know I love my books and soI think that, um, I'll also be
sharing books, that um, that I'mreading and I'm getting stuff
out of.
So, um, just to start off, andTaylor, I definitely like I hope
you're grabbing your cards,your medicine cards or whatever,
because that would be reallyawesome.
(33:59):
So Taylor, actually, besidesbeing an herbalist, she is also
intuitive and she, she's, she,she has her medicine cards and
she pulls cards and I've oftenfound readings by her very, very
helpful.
So I wanted to incorporate that.
And I also I'm a reader.
I go through these jags, like Igo through periods where I
(34:19):
don't read and then I go throughperiods where I can't get
enough books.
So right now, just to sharevery briefly, I am on a Malcolm
Gladwell kick Now.
Malcolm Gladwell wrote theTipping Point and Blink he's.
You know he's a nonfictionwriter and I love, I love his
(34:41):
stuff, I love his style.
He I just finished the bookOutliers, and Outliers is it's
it's a story.
It's, it's um, he basicallytalks about people who have been
successful successful inathletics, successful in
business or whatever, um.
He basically talks about peoplewho have been successful
successful in athletics,successful in business or
whatever, um, in school andwhatever and he kind of
demystifies it.
And there are some surprisingthings that I learned um in this
(35:08):
book and I will just share onestory.
So you have the rice pattypeople who grew up in the
regions of China and, I think,in somewhat Japan, but in that
region where they are rice pattyworkers and if you have a rice
patty it is like the size ofmaybe your apartment, right,
(35:29):
it's very.
The rice patties are very small, but the work to make a rice
patty productive is someticulous and so complex and so
hard that it's it's it's really, and basically the culture says
you have to get up early, youhave to be like everything is
(36:01):
about hard work and focus andbeing meticulous and all of this
and that's in the culture ofthe people who grow up in these
regions of rice paddies.
It just so happens that fromthose very same regions come
people who are really, reallygood at math and a lot of times
(36:33):
we make the assumption oh,they're Asian.
So they who are extraordinaryat math come from rice paddy
regions where the culture wasvery much about you stick to it,
you stick to it, you stick toit, you stick to it.
You know, and it's very muchpart of the culture, and so they
apply that to the challenges ofmath and become extraordinary
(36:56):
at math.
But it isn't that they have amore of an aptitude or that
they're smarter they're not.
They come from a culture that,literally, is the perfect
culture to grow people who arereally good at math.
Because if you're going to begood at math, you have to have
the quality of sticking toproblem solving and sticking to
(37:19):
it and sticking to it andsticking to it till you figure
it out and and most of us willlook at a math problem and we'll
be there for like a few minutesand it's like I can't do it, I
can't, I just don't have it, Ijust don't, I'm just not that
smart and and that's not howmath works.
So that was just one example ofhow, you know, he demystifies
(37:41):
some of the attitudes that wehave about people who are
particularly successful in heirs.
Anyway, that was just oneexample, and there are so many
in this book.
I love this book.
I am now.
I am now reading talking tostrangers.
Talking to strangers is reallyabout the kinds of assumptions
and everything that we make whenwe're talking to strangers and
how sometimes our lack ofunderstanding results in tragedy
(38:06):
, and so I don't want to givetoo much away.
I'll talk about that next week.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I'm reading a book called Abundance Alchemy and
it's really stuck with me.
I'm reading a book calledAbundance Alchemy and it's
really stuck with me and I waslistening to you talk and the
author of my book is an Asianwoman who discusses societal
norms and what's expected, youknow, in these cultures where
(38:33):
she's from, to be the best andmake the most and have this
house, but at the end of the dayit's all the alchemical
abundance of how we manifestthings.
So really interesting that yousaid that, because I was
listening to you and I'm likemath is a form of alchemy, yeah,
(38:55):
it is listening to you and I'mlike that's.
Math is a form of alchemy.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it is so um so today I'm going to be pulling a
card for the collective and anduh, so can we, can we like, set
our intention that what do weneed to know, or what do we need
to take in, or what would behelpful as we move into next
week?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
at this moment, yeah, this, this deck is the animal
spirit guidebook.
Um, it's the wild unknown bykim kranz, wonderful illustrator
, wonderful, wonderful author.
She writes children's books.
She's phenomenal, phenomenalwriter, um, and I resonate with
how she uses animals,particularly in this deck, to
(39:37):
send us messages.
Like totems, like animal totems, yes yes, and what they
represent so collectively, ifthere is a message coming
through where we are with thesun we didn't even get to talk
about, you know how we all feelafter all these, these, these.
X-rays Um but with everythinggoing on and what, and you know
(40:02):
where we are with the stars, um,what animal can collectively
deliver us a message that cancarry us through this week with
a little wisdom, a little pieceof alchemical gold?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yep, I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
So I'm going to go ahead and pull.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Let's do this.
You'll love this, guys it's ahawk.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Wow, all right, so we're looking at hawk medicine
for the coming week for all ofus hawk medicine and I think
that all three of us can deeplyrelate to hawk.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I think that all three of us have some serious
hawk medicine yeah, in our totem.
Um, sometimes I look at enokiand I'm like she is definitely
like one of your closer totemslike right with me in the car I
had a hawk florida, that wouldcome when I called him.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, I remember that .
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And one day, before I moved, I said can you just
leave me a piece of you?
And he shook and dropped afeather.
I think we just discussed thisrecently.
So, anyways, this is what Hawksays to us everyone Be watchful.
All-seeing and a messenger ofdivinity.
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The sharp eyes of Hawk watchour every move.
This keen-eyed bird has theability to see every little
detail as well as the biggerpicture.
When this card appears, fatehas its eyes on you and the
winds are shifting.
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It is said that hawk carriesnews upon its wings and is sent
from divinity to deliver it.
The message should not be takenlightly.
Though it may seem small orinsignificant, it can and will
eventually redirect your entirecourse.
So when in balance with HawkMedicine, we can see clearly, we
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can feel our intuition.
It's crisp, it's clear, it'sthere.
When it's out of balance, wesee too much or we become
suspicious.
And to bring it into balance,nothing like a good perspective
shift.
And when I talk about HawkMedicine to others, I use the
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example of the viewpoint,because Hawk, like eagle, flies
above us and sees this verybroad, I mean all the way to the
horizon.
Right, many of us that can lookto the future or look out at
(43:07):
the world and, like we weresaying about tables, you know be
able to see everything going on.
But they also have this otherability see everything going on.
But they also have this otherability where, like mouse, who
can only scrutinize because theycan only see this much around
them.
That's right.
Hawk can do that.
Hawk can hone in on somethingright before right.
(43:30):
Hawk can but hyper focus onsomething and it becomes an
attack, sometimes right andhunting or what have you.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
So hawk has has a dual, a dual ability to to see
closely if it needs to, but toalso see the broad picture, the
whole of reality you know, whatI think is really wonderful
about this message, in what, inhow it's connected to what we've
been talking about, Taylor isthat remember you know how we've
(44:03):
been talking about beingreactive, and a lot of times
what's happening when we'rebeing reactive is that we're
super hyper focused on exactlywhat's in front of us and we
don't have.
We don't have the view, theHawkeye view of the wider,
that's right, the widerperspective.
And if we can, uh, if we can dothat, if we can um, um allow
(44:27):
ourselves to have that, yeah,that, that, that perspective.
Um, then it can pull us out ofthis tunnel vision that we often
fall into when we're beingreactive.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, Get out of that box, right, get out of that box
, yeah.
And I want everyone who'slistening to pay attention, so
like if Hawk says we've got thismessage, that something's
coming and it may seem small andinsignificant.
(45:05):
Nothing in this world canreally be that small and
insignificant, right, becauseone tiny pebble can create a
snowball.
Right, and also understandingdiscernment, right, not
everything needs a reaction.
Now there is one juicy mousedown there that is going to get
(45:25):
it right.
That that's.
That's we're going.
We're going for this oneparticular thing, but we cannot
hyper fixate on that.
So pay attention to yoursurroundings when you're
outdoors and see in the nextweek if you can spot a hawk in
nature.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
So do you want to know another really, really
amazing thing about hawks?
Yeah, how, when you're too farinto something, it can be,
overwhelming is the fact that ahawk can't see anything close up
, so they can only hyper fixatefrom afar and in the moment.
(46:08):
They have to be on point and ithas to be precise, otherwise
it's all for naught and it'sgonna start over, or is it?
Have you actually, you know,flown from high enough to see
what it is that you're hyperfixating on and have you timed
your reaction right?
(46:28):
I think is is the thing withwith hawk medicine, and I think
that that's why now in life,like I I, when I say it, I'm
always like, oh, I gotta stepback and and see, you know, or I
can't react because, becauseit's happening too fast for me
(46:48):
to make that, that calculatedstrike, that that exact
precision you know maneuver.
It's hard to find that timingin life.
You can't really take care of asituation in the middle of it I
had a different experience lastweek.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
After the um, after the podcast, I um, I went for a
walk in the, in the forest.
It was beautiful and I walkedright up on a deer.
Um wait, but what about?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
your owl.
Well, I medicine coming, yeah Idid, I did gentleness and
discernment.
But the story of deer patty isa really badass story.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You saw an owl this week I saw an owl a week ago, a
big um.
What do you call the ones thatare the horn?
A great horn sitting right outsitting right out behind my
house, just sitting on a branchlooking at me going through the
job interview and shit like yeahmaybe they're gonna move.
(47:53):
I honestly think there's bigchange coming and I'm just kind
of trying to be chill about itreally great example of what
we've been talking about todaytoo, because the deer is known
for gentleness.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
However, in the story of deer the deer, all the
animals are afraid to go to thetop of the mountain, because the
top of the mountain is this,this, this demon.
Right, and this demon won't letanybody reach the top of the
mountain.
And all the other animals arelike I just I can't.
They are that that demon upthere?
Oh no, thank you, I don't wantany part in it, I don't.
(48:28):
And the deer says much likepatty's spirit.
The deer is like that's okay,I'm going to go talk to him
anyways, I'm not afraid.
And so the deer makes its way upto the top of the mountain and
here's this giant demon.
You can't pass, you can't getto the top of the mountain.
(48:49):
And so deer says it's okay, Ilove you, you're loved, and I'm
not afraid of you.
And I, I'm gonna get to the topof the mountain.
And in doing so, and inrelinquishing that fear and that
power, the demon shrunk tonothing.
(49:09):
And so deer continued on, butin gentleness.
One a battle that the answer,the true answer, was melting the
hatred in one's heart, butwinning with gentleness, being
softer.
(49:30):
What a beautiful lesson.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, it's a great lesson and I definitely think I
am really excited to be movinginto that.
That time, that era in my lifewhere I lead with gentleness,
because I think that so much ofmy you know, I mean I had so
many, so many challenges and Ithink it.
(49:54):
You know, I lived with a bit ofan edge, a defensiveness, and I
was, I was, I did have atendency to to be reactive,
upset and reactive a lot, and Ithink that I have.
I've moved out of that and I'vebeen in transition for a while
and, by the way, likeastrologically, my North node,
(50:15):
which is where I'm heading, isin libra and I think, like it's
really the message for my lifeis all it has been really about
finding balance, finding balance, finding balance.
I really do think that thereare some changes and there are
some revelations coming to usthat'll be challenging for our
psyche but it'll challenge our,our core beliefs about things
(50:37):
like the sun, things like themoon and the challenges don't
stop and the reactions don'tstop.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
So it's it's.
It's how we move exactly, it'show we move through the moon
phases and and how we are usingour awareness to know.
Okay, I'm feeling more reactivetoday and it just so happens
that the moon is in Taurus and Ishould probably just bite my
(51:04):
tongue on this one.
You know, we kind of just haveto be more aware and go with the
flow.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's that, it's what I think we're being called to do
is to find the balance, to pullback reaction, because there's
plenty of reaction in some guruway, but just teaching through
example.
I think the more that we can bein balance, the more that we
(51:42):
can find the gentle way throughthe chaos, through these
challenging, chaotic times.
I think it's, it'll be a valueto people, the people around us.
I think so that's, that's myhope, that's my.
You know, that's kind of what Iwant to do with the students I
work with, with the people Iinteract with, you know, and do
(52:02):
it with humor too.
I think we we have to make surewe don't lose our sense of
humor.
And then you have to deal withcoyote and we'll get to coyote
next week, so we're going toleave it there and thank folks
who have um checked out the livestream, have checked out or
(52:24):
listened in to the podcast.
If you you know.
If you really like what we'reputting out, you can.
I usually don't ask people tolike, hit the like button or
follow or whatever, but ifyou're still inclined,
definitely you can do that.
We just appreciate you droppingby and listening in on our
conversation so we certainlyenjoy it every day.
(52:48):
Any last words, you guys,before we sign off.
I love you guys.
Be loved, be loved, be loved,be loved, be loved.
As always, this has been such apleasure and I certainly look
forward to doing this all againnext week.
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
We love you.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I love you too.
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