June 9, 2024 • 57 mins
Ever wondered how to build a dream homestead from scratch? Join us in this episode as Anoki takes us through her exhilarating journey of constructing a 16 by 50 cabin on her idyllic mountain property. From hurricane-proof features to eco-friendly recycling methods, Anoki's story is a treasure trove of inspiration and practical advice. You’ll also get a peek into her future plans for adding camper spots for visitors, all while enjoying spectacular mountain views.
Switching gears, we tackle the often misunderstood world of healthy eating and weight loss. We unravel the irony of dietary trends, like the shift from lard to processed oils, and how misconceptions about weight and wealth affect our health. Through personal anecdotes, we highlight the importance of healthy fats, the dangers of sugar, and the benefits of gradual weight loss. Plus, we share our experiences with the carnivore diet and discuss how to maintain a balanced, sustainable lifestyle.
Lastly, we dive into the mystery of rheumatoid arthritis and its potential connections to diet and COVID-19. Reflecting on personal theories and experiences, we explore the impact of dietary patterns, mindful eating, and the effectiveness of intermittent fasting. We also touch on cultural shifts in consumption, extreme weather patterns, and a creative new love story set in a world where the moon has disappeared. Tune in for a mix of heartfelt discussions, practical tips, and thought-provoking narratives that promise to leave you both informed and inspired.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Thank you for joining us.
This is Patty with Patty TalksToo Much.
I'm here with my dear friend,inoki and maybe, you know, maybe
Taylor will be joining us thismorning.
It's always you know, we justnever know.
She works to the wee hours ofFriday nights, you know, as a
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waitress, so she might bejoining us later.
Anoki was just showing me herproperty and where she's going
to be putting her new home onher property.
So it's really yeah, it'sreally really exciting.
(01:04):
So I was going to ask you and doyou mind talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
some of the details about this endeavor.
Um, yeah, well, I mean, I'mgetting a 16 by 50 building put
up here in the mountains like acabin building and, uh, and it's
the shell.
So, um, it's going to be alittle while before we can move
in or anything, but I've beenclearing the spot and fixing two
different trenches that are inthe driveway and uh, and I've
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got four and a half acres uphere but this is where the
buildings can go and, uh, I'llhave this like beautiful view to
look out on and it'd be reallynice because I from here, I have
like a vantage point of seeingthe whole property um
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and where I was down in thefront corner, I couldn't really
see a lot of what was going onand like I'd be outside but to
be on the porch, like I was kindof out of sight of you know
where my son was.
So then I was always justpulling a chair in the random of
wherever he was, and so it'llbe really nice to just be up
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here real comfortably.
It's got a lot of windows.
It's got a lot of big, beautifulwindows, a couple three-by-five
windows and they're all youknow hurricane windows and stuff
the roof is like 40 yearwarranty and it's all built to
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house code and we got ourpermits through the county,
which was a big, huge relief andwe were originally going to put
it down a little further um,under the oak, but I just felt
like maybe you know it was a lotmore work, a lot more grading
that we would have had to havedone, and I thought, well, it'd
be so nice to have that big openarea for family and people you
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know like to come by.
And then, uh, I have, I want toput a couple you know little
camper spots out here, um, andso that leaves room for things
like that you know, thathappened what's your, what's
your timeline on this, like when?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
how long do you think it's going to take to finish
everything up so you guys canmove into it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
well, the building's gonna be here next weekend,
probably the weekend after that,we'll have a 200 amp power
service drop to it.
Um, and then we're pretty goodat finding materials on facebook
marketplace and stuff you know,for free or cheap yeah um and
(03:44):
uh, and so we'll probably bedoing that.
We're going to recycle some ofthe materials from the teardown
of our house, like we're stillgonna have our house there are
you?
Yeah, I was gonna using it backto the um, the three-room cabin
, the original.
The original yeah, yeah, um allright, so how big?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
okay, so how big is it going to be when you tear
away all of the additions?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
so so it's probably going to be close to the same
size as the building.
It'll be probably around 800square feet.
Um, because the porch the backis not considered an enclosed
porch.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And here's the front porch on the house.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Even though they closed it in and made it a room,
it was still considered openporch, so it'll be about the
same as the building.
The building's going to be 800square feet.
It'll be about the same as thebuilding.
The building's going to be 800square feet.
It might be 850 square feetwith a loft you know, because
it's a lot higher of a building.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So are you going to be able to use, when you tear
away the extra right, thenon-original parts?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I already have the doors for the original cabin
, the door frames are stillthere.
So I just have to put twoexterior doors on the back and
it's completely sealed.
Well, are you going to be ableto use any of the material from
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the teardown with your buildingconstruction so I'll have a lot
of tin and I'll have a lot ofthrough, two by three, two by
four, timbers, you know, likereal, real timbers.
Um, I'll have, I'll have awhole ton of drywall, but that's
probably going to come out togo into the new building.
(05:45):
As long as we can get thesheets off without breaking real
bad or having any major cracks,we'll put them into the new
build.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now what about plumbing?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I want to connect the plumbing to the plumbing
that we have, since we won't beusing it and it's rated for um
such a high flux.
You know, such a high flow, wecan still use the plumbing
that's there and just connect itto that.
Now we'll have we'll have agood amount of pipe, you know,
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but it's on a hill and it'll begraded, you know, down so it's
so, it's going to, it's going tohave the angle that it needs to
get down there to you know, getthrough that distance.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I'm, I'm really looking forward to the updates.
You know, as you as you goalong as you kind of work on on
this kind of this homesteadproject.
I think it's awesome.
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It feels so much nicer being up here on the hill,
you know, like I love beingdown there and and stuff, but
but it's like I, uh, I wasafraid to trim out the trees,
you know, because I hate cuttingtrees down, and and then I
realized like they reallyweren't too healthy because they
were just overgrowing on top ofeach other.
And since we've like cut them,like this guy had three trees
beside him and he was just allhis branches were straight up in
the air, you know, and now,he's dropping out and filling up
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.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, so that's really nice to see that, that
you know some of them are ableto respond to yeah, need to grow
we were talking about that lastweek, you know yeah, about how
they need the sunlight andsometimes in the forest, you
know, if it's not tended orwhatever, um no, I said like
(07:36):
sometimes those, those oldertrees, will just come down
spontaneously combust or comedown.
Yeah, come down and create awhole, you know, a whole area of
sunlight for the other trees,and so it does.
It really sparks their growth.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, back in Native culture.
Native culture was the original, like US forestry, you know,
and Native cultures all hadcontrol burns where they would
light the fire specific timeswhen the winds were going
certain ways, you know, to cleanthe forest, to tend everything
so that all the acorns wouldopen up, because some, some pine
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trees will only disperse theirseeds um in extreme heat yeah
like so.
So um you know what time for isspecifically they.
That's why they need to do theburns on them to one, cut them
back a little bit.
To two, clear up the needles,because they kind of mulch
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themselves if you've ever had abig pile of mulch somewhere and
you stuck your hand sorrysomewhere, and you stuck your
hand down in the middle of themulch pile.
You'd know that you canactually get burns in the center
of the mulch pile.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
This, this kind of this consultation I had this
week with this naturopathicperson that that you know I'm
I'm reading her book.
This is a different book.
I'm I'm reading her bookbecause she, she healed her
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rheumatoid arthritis by doing,by doing things.
And it's not, like you know,it's a one, two, three like
we're used to in our culture.
It's like, oh, just take thispill and everything will be
miraculously better.
Well, we all know that, firstof all, that doesn't work.
You know, we're just fooledinto believing that, you know,
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and we kind of live in thisinstant gratification culture,
whatever we believe those things.
So, at any rate, we had a briefconsultation and I am going to
be starting next week, as soonas I get what I need, I'll be
starting my first cleanse.
But there's like a series ofcleanses I'm going to be doing
(10:04):
that are pretty intense.
So parasite cleanse, a liverflush, a colon cleanse that I'll
be doing kind of in that order.
She says that it'll take abouta year for me to heal my
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rheumatoid arthritis.
So I'm in it.
I'm in it for the long haul.
I'm jumping in both feet andmaking a commitment to doing
this approach, along with thechanges that I've made in my
diet.
So I have done a lot like I'veeliminated white flour and, you
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know, like sugar, and so I'vereally, really cleaned up my
diet too.
But the problem is is like ifyou've got, let's say you have
parasites and most of us do andyour liver is a little sluggish
and you've got layers along yourcolon that hinder absorption,
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you could be doing all kinds ofthings for your health, but
maybe you're not getting thenutrients, you know.
So you're doing all thesethings, so I'm taking this
nutrient, I'm taking thatnutrient, but it might not be
having as much of an impact asyou would expect because you've
got all these things in the way.
And so the whole point of doingthese cleanses is to really
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free up your body to be able toutilize the nutrients that
you're giving it and also toheal itself, because our bodies
are really amazing and they canreally heal themselves if
they're, if they just if we justget the toxins out of them.
I mean, you know we we talkabout this all the time, inoki,
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right how toxic our environmentis, our food, our air, water,
everything.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And so even if you're trying, you know, even if
you're doing your best you know,you're still exposed to a lot I
keep thinking, you know,because I started my nutrition
program and really all I'm doingis limiting calories and now
I'm at 182.
And I was at 215.
(12:26):
That's a lot of weight.
That's a lot of weight, and allI did was change my diet.
You know, all I did was changemy diet, but Americans would
just eat and eat and eat and eat.
It's a comfort for us.
You know, like most placesdon't even have, you know, food
like that you know, or they dohave food like that, but they
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eat small portions of it.
You know over time or have itin, you know much smaller things
.
You know, like I don't know,you know, like I haven't really
changed what I'm eating at all.
You know, I just change theamount how much, yeah, you know,
and and telling myself what Ineed and what I don't need and
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stuff, and like, just you know,losing that weight, you know
what is?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
that 215 180 to that's uh almost 30 pounds right
yeah, almost 30 pounds that'sreally I mean that's, I know
it's awesome.
I mean, I my my progress isgoing a little bit um, a little
bit slower, but you know, I'm,I'm like it's been.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's been like six or eight, almost eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Next week it'll be eight weeks yeah but I mean like
it's yeah yeah, but I mean,like I'm I'm 30 years older than
you, so it's gonna take alittle longer, but that's okay.
That's okay because I'm doingall these other things and I
think that naturally it'll it'llcome off.
I'm not really.
I'm not really worried about it, but it is good, I'm 5 10 you
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know, yeah, well, that's, that's.
I'm really tall yeah that's true, and I'm pretty short one, just
I'm, uh you're, you're nineinches taller than me, but um
you know, what you were, um,what you were talking about in
terms of, like, how, how we eatin our country, right?
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so I have a funny story aboutthat's related to this on this
topic, and that is many yearsago.
I went in the late nineties.
I went to the DominicanRepublic with with my partner at
the time and, and because shewas Dominican, we got to go out
into the country and we went toher hometown and it was probably
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one of the very best vacationsI've ever had.
It was just beautiful and theDominican Republic is awesome.
I love the people and it's abeautiful place.
But, at any rate, where we werestaying, you know, they all
mostly spoke Spanish and it was.
It was okay because she spokeSpanish and so, but they would
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many of the, the, the workersthere.
They would comment that I wasrich, that I must be rich, and
she would laugh and she wouldsay no, and I would say what did
they say?
She said, well, they thinkyou're rich.
I said why would they think I'mrich?
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I don't dress any differentlythan you.
And she said, well, they thinkyou're rich because you're
chunky.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's how culture was, though Only the royal
people, only you know reallywealthy people were overweight
ever.
Yeah, you know, or yeah, soyeah you go to a country.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know you go to a country like they go to most
countries, and that's often whythey assume that Americans.
If you travel around the world,if you go to places in Africa
or in Asia or whatever, theyassume that Americans are rich.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's really why we're overweight.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh, no, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The poorer.
The people are here the heavierthey are because the more
they're buying the cheap foodthat they can afford.
Exactly, it's this irony it'sonly three bucks for a whole box
of Twinkies because the morethey're buying the cheap food
that they can afford.
You know, exactly, it's thisirony.
It's only three bucks for awhole box of Twinkies.
I can eat two of them, and befull, you know Like I've been
hungry, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But it's true, it's true.
It's like it's so ironic thatthere would be this assumption
Like.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Crisco.
It's not lard anymore, it'slike oil.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's that there would be this assumption that it's
not lard anymore and lard wouldbe healthy.
Crisco is not, but it's.
It's so true that so there are,you know so, people around the
world.
They function on this, this oldassumption that if you, if you,
have extra weight on you, it'sbecause you have extra riches to
afford the food.
But the irony of that is thatis not true for Americans.
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We are made heavy by the toxic,processed, cheap food that we
buy.
You know the fast food.
You know that we that we buybecause it's cheap and you know
we can feed the family on.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, it used to be true and you know we can feed
the family on.
Well, it used to be true.
I think, that the way thatwe're processing food, like
we're eating this crap and thiscrap makes the fat, and then the
fat is really the only thingfeeding us from our own body.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, the problem with that.
You kind of need fat to burnfat and so if you don't have fat
in your diet, like healthy fatin your diet, you might have a
hard time losing weight.
Most of us put on weightbecause there are all of these
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sugars, known and unknown, andundetected and snuck into our
foods.
So it's sugar, that kind ofthat, that makes us fat.
But I also heard that there.
You know that our fat holds alot of toxins, so a lot of the
toxins in our bodies are storedin our in our fat.
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Toxins in our bodies are storedin our fat and so when we lose
weight we're also detoxing.
But sometimes it can feelpretty crappy, like if someone
loses weight very rapidly, whatcould happen is that their liver
gets overloaded with all thosetoxins it's releasing, and that
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could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Losing weight too rapidly.
Your body doesn't have time toadjust to losing weight either,
you know.
I think it's better to loseslow, over time, you know,
because then, everything is kindof going with you.
I was really surprised becauseI'd been overweight, since I had
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nidus, but I didn't havestretch marks, you know, and so
I was thinking well when I loseall the weight, I'm probably
going to have some stretch marksor whatever.
But because I'm losing nice andslow, I haven't.
I haven't had anything likethat or had, you know, loose or
or any of that stuff.
My arms are tightening back up,which is that's nice.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Muscle muscle tone.
Yeah, there's something thereagain.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That's awesome yeah, I mean I feel I feel really good
, like, but all I did was limitthe amount that I was taking in
you know, and I started sayingno to food.
You know, because I'm with afeeder and I love that much food
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.
Yeah, I was so poor.
You know, like steaks?
No, I wouldn't have steaks.
And then we had so much steak.
You know, I was eating steaklike every day, you know like
that's, that's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, but I love steak.
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I went like two years withouthaving a steak.
I love steak too.
It was my favorite, you know.
I always wanted it but I didn'thave it.
I didn't have the money for itand stuff like that, you know.
And then I got like comfortable, like I was like, well, we got
steak to eat every night.
I'll eat.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Now, what's what?
Because I love talking steak.
So what's your?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
favorite, my, your favorite my favorite steak, like
favorite all-time steak, ever,yeah, um brazilian steak on the
steak, oh really, yeah, Ithought you were gonna say
ribeye or porterhouse.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I really did yeah, I like.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I like steak that has a little bit of fat on it.
You know, because I like theflavor of the fat.
I don't like it when the fat islike too gooey.
I like crispy fat, likeblackened fat, you know.
I like that a lot.
I like marbly looking steaks.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean I love a good.
You know I have a cast ironskillet so I love a good ribeye
or porterhouse, I mean honestly.
But you know, here's somethingthat happened to nokia.
I was just on the phone with mymother yesterday and she
brought this up again.
It does have to do with redmeat.
So I've always been working onmy like, my, my health and my
diet and like how to lose weightand everything.
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So I've tried all kinds ofthings, but around between 2020
and 2021.
I got into the carnivore diet,you know.
I had tried different things andI got into the carnivore diet
and I started really seeing somesuccess with losing my brother
in law was doing that, and sowas my aunt and uncle.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, they all did that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And you know, and there are a lot of advantages to
doing that.
However, I was eating talkabout eating steak every day.
I mean like I was eating.
Obviously I was eating red meatpretty much every day.
Now my mother, my mother, hassaid because she's trying to my
mom is funny, she tries to solvethe mystery.
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So the mystery, the currentmystery, is Pat was healthy and
had no problems up until acouple of years ago when she had
this little hairline fracturein her ankle, but then
everything kind of went to helland she's got rheumatoid
arthritis.
How did this happen?
How did somebody who had beenhealthy for like 62 years no
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pain in their body, no issues,no medication, no, nothing
whatever and now I hadrheumatoid arthritis?
So my mom's always trying tocome up with these theories, and
so one of her theories is thatthe carnivore diet may have
caused too many crystallinedeposits in my joints, like I
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might've it could have.
Red meat can do that, she said,because it's acidic and it does
this and she does all thisresearch.
It's like the carnivore you,being on the carnivore diet for
a little over a year or two, mayhave caused this condition.
Her other theory is that havingCOVID may have prompted
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something in my system, she said, because it just doesn't make
any sense that all of a sudden,I mean like you're healthy and
you have no nothing going on atall in your body and then all of
a sudden, boom, like you'rehealthy and you have no nothing
going on at all in your body andthen all of a sudden, boom, you
have this series of things thatpoints to rheumatoid arthritis.
So, anyway, that's, that's.
One of her working theories isthat, you know, the carnivore
diet may have contributed to myrheumatoid arthritis and that I
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should have I should, I shouldhave apple cider vinegar every
day, she said, because that'sgoing to dissolve those those
things on your, on your, on yourknuckles, and so I promised her
that I would include that in myapple cider vinegar every day
to help with the deposits on myknuckles every day.
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To help with the deposits on myknuckles, I've come to the
conclusion that, when it comesto the way we eat, I honestly
think that mixing these eatingstyles up is probably the
healthiest thing.
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So there might be certain timesof the year where it's awesome
to be vegan or vegetarian, andthen other times of the year
where it may be better for ourhealth and our bodies to be
carnivore, and so that maybe thehealthiest approach is not so
much oh I have to be strictlyvegan or oh, I have to be
strictly vegetarian or oh, Ihave to be strictly carnivore,
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but to do a combination, to kindof move from one to the other
and according to seasons, Ithink would be awesome, because
there are times of the yearwhere, you know, being a vegan
or vegetarian makes more sense,and then other times of the year
it makes more sense to havemore of a meat, you know kind of
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a more meat-based um diet.
So that's kind of theconclusion that I've come up
with is like it's not just oh,do this or oh, do that forever,
do this forever.
But it's like, well, why don'tyou, um, do these different
diets in different seasons?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
and so that's kind of how I feel about about the
calorie count.
You know, like like I, I canstill have whatever I feel like
I need whenever I need it, youknow as long as I'm making sure
that it's within the reason ofwhat I'm supposed to consume in
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the day and there'll be a pointwhere I'm gonna go up in
calories like so I'm not gonnastay at the 1600 forever you
know, this is to lose the weight, right?
you know, um, but but then youknow I'm, I'm not gonna have a
need to eat.
You know more than 2100 calories, you know which on average is
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what I burn in the day, so thenI should be able to maintain
whatever weight that I'm at thenwith a 2000 calorie diet, you
know, and then I can still havelike, if I feel like I really
use something green right now, Ican still have all the green
things that I want, you know,and if I feel like man, I could
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really use some, you know, meat,or, or, you know, maybe I don't
want that kind of protein,maybe I want more of like a whey
, you know for energy orsomething you know like all
right, I can have that you knowlike, but
but, but then I'm not like, likeI'm mind blown by it, you know,
because, like I really wasn'texpecting that to work at all,
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you know, like you know, and itis, it absolutely has.
And my stomach is shrunk downand now my body's like expecting
that amount, you know, it's not.
It's not like I'm like, oh, I'mreally hungry, or I'm fighting
like a lot of cravings now, likebecause, like I started to get
hungry and I'm like, oh, I'mreally hungry, or I'm fighting
like a lot of cravings now,because, like I started to get
hungry and I'm like, nope,you're just bored, get up.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know walking around or doing something.
It's true.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Because I'm like no, you just had, you know, 200
calories, You're okay.
You know you gotta wait,because later on you're going to
want to eat too, and that'sreasonable, but you haven't
learned this yet.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, and these are the kind of conversations we
have to have with ourselves,Because sometimes you know it's
like changing your relationshipto food and being aware it's
like why do I want to eat rightnow?
I shouldn't, because I just ate.
So what's going on?
And, like you said, yeah,you're bored, Get up.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know having those conversations with ourselves.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to kind of deprogram
our psychology around food.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It is.
It's so embedded in our head.
I just lay on the couch and eatsome ice cream.
Oh, I got the smart foodpopcorn, but I ate the entire
bag.
You know I don't think thatworks the same.
You know, like that's whereI've been.
You know I've been doing allthat stuff.
I've been eating because I'mbored.
You know I feed Nidus and then,you know, like he's growing,
(28:39):
he's a child he needs a lot morethan I need.
I don't have to eat every timeI feed him.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Now, one thing that I've done and this really helps
with reducing my caloric intakeevery day is that you know, I do
the intermittent fasting Right,so I just kind of make sure
that I go a certain amount oftime between meals, you know.
So my last meal might be at sixo'clock and I might not have
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another meal until like two thenext day.
So that I've, you know, Ifasted a good amount of time and
sometimes that means that I'llhave like a meal, or maybe a
meal and a half a day, butthat's okay and, again, that's
cutting my calories.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I think that's how I ate, like when I met you.
You know I mean part of it waslike instability, you know.
But then there was this otherpart of it, where this how I ate
my whole life you know, Ididn't really live off much more
than a sandwich or two in a dayI eat about two meals.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's like this over overconsumption.
It's like normalizingoverconsumption.
It's like how we think abouthouses they have to be big
houses.
How we think about cars theyhave to be big cars.
How we think about now thatthat is changing to some extent,
but it's like in the Americanculture it's like everything is
supersized.
You know, it's kind of like bythe way that the supersized guy
(30:10):
died recently, by the way, but,like you know, I think it was
just my mom was just talkingabout that, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But the eighties, the eighties, you know the when
when megas, the 80s, the 80s,you know the when when megas yes
, megas hit, yeah, and then, thesupers, and then and then
extremes, you know like you know, mega centers and mega stores
and fucking you know and megaconsumption, that's all.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this mega consumption everywhere,
everywhere you go, like thesebig, huge stores you know to buy
, you know everything becamelike a super, super, target,
super, walmart super, this super, that, like you know, I think,
I think we're all being pushedto really ascertain what, what
(30:59):
our reality is and what, who,what do we trust and who do we
trust?
And the thing is, I think itreally comes down to trusting
ourselves.
I think that we're reallymoving into a time when there's
going to be so much disclosedthat it's really going to be
gobsmacking for most people whenthey see how much of our
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reality really isn't what theythought it was, how much of our
history isn't really what wethought it was.
How we feel about theauthorities, right, like these,
you know these authorities andthese experts, and it turns out
that most of that is bullshit.
You know, like you know, youhave Fauci, you know, at
(31:41):
congressional hearings and he'sjust, you know, like everything
that he said during the COVIDpandemic was kind of bullshit
and made up and it just appearedapparently.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You know, like, whatever, like everybody has
with everyone and yeah, all over.
Yeah, I know you told me to golook up the weather and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Oh, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I looked it up.
There were some earthquakes inGeorgia Yesterday like Okachobee
got hit with like a super cellstorm.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And Florida was having a lot of issues with the
rain.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
People were pulling over.
They're like it doesn't lookthis bad in the video, but this
is intense.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I'm a.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Floridian, and then Dubai had like a pop-up thing or
whatever, where people werebeing blown away.
And it just started out ofnowhere.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, these wind storms, these winds that come
through, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, there's been some crazy winds with the
thunderstorms, which there'salways been a little bit of wind
with thunderstorms, but it'snever looked hurricane-ish you
know I mean in Florida, like itpours it's sheet raining, but
it's not a hurricane.
There's a difference you knowwhen you see the wind and the
mist and the sheeting, you know,circulating in midair as it's
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moving, that's like hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's what hurricanes do and that's weird.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And that's what happened to Houston.
And that's kind of like whathappened through florida the
other day, but it was little,they were like little cells you
know, so, like the storm thatwent over lake okatobi was like
this, just a little smaller thanlake okatobi, so it wasn't huge
.
You know, um, it's a prettysmall storm, but when it rolls
(33:38):
up the top of those rim canals,man I mean the winds that it
picks up going across that flatwater is insane.
And then lake okachobee isalways like 10 to 15 degrees
warmer than the ocean.
So whatever the ocean's at like, lake okachobee is its own,
like little mini hurricane makeryeah, you know, like any any
(34:00):
storm that crosses LakeOkeechobee just explodes, and it
can do whatever it wants to.
It can make a complete U-turntwice, but Lake Okeechobee is
that boomerang that it needs.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I've also been hearing about tornadoes too.
Have you been picking up onthat?
There's just all thesetornadoes happening everywhere.
There's so many tornadoes outin you been picking up on that,
like there's all these tornadoesso many?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
tornadoes out in the midwest and out in oklahoma and
texas.
Texas is having weather thatlike yeah what the hell?
I know what the hell when I wasin texas it rained like a
motherfucker in the spring.
I remember just walking throughmud.
I remember thinking I thoughtfucking texas was a desert.
What the hell is this?
you know, houston is usuallylike spared from it, though
(34:46):
houston's like drier and is likethe desert.
I was like way over in kilgorein the east part of texas.
Georgia has me feeling a littlebetrayed, so like I've been
more on like world weather thanlike my my area weather because
they don't know what's happeninghere, ever, ever.
This is like the vortex.
(35:07):
They're like it's raining whereyou are and it's not.
It's like sunny and shiny andthey'll tell me that it's going
to rain for three days straightand then it doesn't rain.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But you know, speaking of reality and not
knowing your reality and stuff,I just wanted to touch on
remember.
Before we started, before wewent live, I was telling you
about this story that I finallywrote.
You know, and so I just wantedto say a few words about it,
because it does have to do withthat.
(35:41):
So, back a couple months ago,when I mentioned to you and
Taylor that I had had a dreamabout going through the process
of writing a story and I thoughtit was such a delicious story,
I wanted to write it, a story.
And I thought it was such adelicious story, I wanted to
write it.
So I finally you know, becauseschool's out now, so I've got
some time I'm relaxing, thinkingabout it, getting into my
(36:10):
imagination, getting thoseimaginative juices flowing, you
know and so I wrote it.
And what's what's interestingis that it's the backdrop for
this.
This it's a love story, youknow, between these two people
who meet in the most unusual way, um, but the backdrop is that
the, the moon, has just, um,broken apart and of the sky, and
(36:38):
so all of these people arehaving.
There are people who are havinga very strong response to it,
like, oh, it's going to changeeverything.
It may even change our capacityfor love, because people
associate the moon with ouremotions.
But then, on the other hand,you've got these, these
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individual people in the storywho are having the experience of
their lives being a little bitbetter without the moon and that
what they, what they areexperiencing, is the, the
absolute beauty and power of thesun and sunlight, and that it's
(37:24):
actually through the, theirrelationship with the sunlight,
that they are falling in love.
Um, and so that's kind of thebackdrop to um this story.
So I went through all of thesedifferent titles for it and I
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kind of came up with After theMoon Fell Away is the title of
it.
But these two charactersPenelope is someone who works in
an office and every day at theend of her day she doesn't stand
in the bus stop where all ofher colleagues are mostly
talking about the drama and thecraziness of the fact that 21
(38:08):
days ago the moon fell apart andfell out of the sky and the
Navy had to shoot the biggerchunks so that it didn't hurt
earth, and so it's fallen awayand there's no more moon and you
have all of these.
You know people kind of freakingout, but penelope isn't
freaking out.
So, at any rate, she every dayafter work, instead of standing
(38:29):
in the bus stop, she stands justoutside the bus stop where the
sun hits the earth in a veryparticular way, and she stands
right, perfectly in this, in theshaft of sunlight, um and um
and so, and always has her eyesclosed so that she can absorb
the sun, and the sun feels likea warm cat sprawled on her
(38:54):
shoulders right and so that'skind of the image that she has,
and so that's Penelope.
So Penelope is not experiencinga problem with the moon not
being there.
Now she has the experience andshe's.
She always has her eyes closed,but now she has an experience
of every day.
She smells this very wonderfulscent of tobacco, like pipe
(39:18):
tobacco, that kind of wafts byher.
She doesn't open up her eyes,but every afternoon she looks
forward to this scent becauseshe thinks it's the most
beautiful scent, right and so Ibuy pipe tobacco just to open
the bag and smell it oh my god,isn't it wonderful.
And they're all these, thesedifferent signs.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
My Papa John.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, it's really, it's kind of like this, this
manly kind of thing, but anyway,she, you know.
So the days, the days go on andthen she has this urge, this
urge that she can't fight, to goto a local tobacco shop and
find that blend right, and and,and.
So she has this reallyinteresting conversation with
(39:59):
this old guy behind the counterwho is dropping some knowledge
about the moon, because he says,look at those guys over there.
So you got all those guyssitting over in a corner and
they're smoking their pipes andthey're wearing tweed and
they're talking about how themoon falling away is going to
affect the stock market andeverything that they're
complaining.
Moon falling away is going toaffect the stock market and
(40:20):
everything that they'recomplaining.
And he's like you know, maybenot he's.
And then he tells her, he tellsher, he basically he asks her
in their little conversationhave you been to the beach?
And she's like no, he said westill have tides.
And so and this excites herit's like wow, we still have
tides.
So there's something.
So there's a little bit of likewhat's going on?
(40:42):
Because didn't the moon controlthe tides?
Why do we still have tides?
So it's this whole thing that'skind of unfolding, but anyway.
So she has this delightfulconversation with the guy behind
the counter.
Who's this old, jolly guy, youknow, with like a white
handlebar mustache, you knowjust kind of like who you would
expect behind a counter in atobacco shop.
(41:03):
And so she gets this little tinof tobacco that is exactly what
she thinks is what she'ssmelling in the afternoon and
she realizes that she is almostlike falling in love with the
man who walks by, who shedoesn't see, whose scent is
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mingled with this tobacco smoke.
And so one day she's standing,as she always does, in the sun
with her eyes closed, waitingfor that waft of tobacco to walk
by, because he walks byapparently every day and she
feels a weight on her toe, andwhen she finally opens up her
(41:49):
eyes there's a little kittenthat has been left at her foot.
And so she takes the kittenhome.
It's a little yellow kitten andshe calls it sunshine.
And of course, when the kittencomes home and she feeds it and
whatever, it nestles up acrossher shoulder just like the sun.
So anyway, the guy shows up andhe's all apologetic because he
(42:13):
realizes that maybe this was animposition and he has assumed
that she was blind because hereyes were always closed.
So it's this whole awkward andwonderful interaction between
the two of them.
And she doesn't think that he'sthe man.
She doesn't.
He doesn't appear to have apipe, but he's kind and so and
she gets a little testy with him.
(42:35):
So you dropped, so you left,like what a charity kitten for
the blind girl.
And he's like no, no no.
It's weird, like when theyfinally talk, you know, and so
she's assuming that it's notthis man, and he asks her you
know he wants to.
He owns up to giving her thekitten but then apologizes and
(42:58):
says if it's an imposition he'lltake it back.
And she said, no, no, it'sperfect.
At any rate, um, she doesn'tthink that he's him because
there's no scent, right, andthat's what she associated with
Um.
But he asked her out for, youknow, like a couple of you know,
you want to go down, for youknow, there's a little cafe
close by we can get a cup ofcoffee.
(43:20):
And he extends his arm, youknow, like to for her to hold on
to his arm, and she doesn'ttake it because she's afraid
that if the real man that she,you know, that she kind of
smells every afternoon walks byand see, see, you know, she
doesn't want the real man to seeher with her arm, her, her hand
(43:40):
, within another man's arm, andso she refuses.
And so they walk to the cornerand as they're waiting for the
light to change it's reallyawkward moment, right, really
awkward and he says, um, do youmind if I smoke?
And so there's this wonderfulscene at the end where she
(44:03):
realizes that he is that it'shim that it is him, you know,
and so it ends.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Oh, that's a cute little story.
It's cute, isn't it?
It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
But it's like from the backdrop of, like, this
whole thing that's happened, youknow, and there are some people
like in the office and this inthe tobacco shop that are really
freaking out.
How is this going to affect us?
How is it going to affect lifeon Earth?
Is it going to like what's itgoing to do to the stock market,
all of these things?
Are we going to keep going?
(44:35):
But but then there are thesepeople who kind of?
kept going.
Yeah, yeah, that were moreinfluenced by the sunlight, and
so it begs the question is itlike, what has been more
important?
Has it been the sunlight?
(44:55):
And of course we associate themoon with emotions and moonlight
, but the moon doesn't have anylight.
It's always been the sunlightand of course, we associate the
moon with emotions and moonlight, but the moon doesn't have any
light.
It's always been the sun.
So, um, at any rate, that'skind of that's the story and um,
I'm I'm working on it.
I have the first draft done.
Um and inoki, if you want me toum send, send you a copy of the
(45:16):
story so you can kind of givesome criticism.
I would love that I'll send itto you, but at any rate.
So that's the kind of writing.
It's a little different,obviously, than what I've been
writing, but I'm glad I took abreak from writing and now I'm
returning to it, and I'm kind ofreturning to it with different
(45:41):
sensibilities, I guess, anddifferent I don't know a
different thought process thatI'm bringing into the writing.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
It sounds like really nice andsweet.
Yeah, like I like the mysteryand the accidental meaning.
Yeah, I like that.
I like the whole storyline.
It kind of reminded me of likea true love story you know, like
the Notebook or something youknow.
Yeah, like I love that movie.
(46:09):
I watched that movie like 300times.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I mean we all want to believe in like true romance.
Real, love Real love, how peoplereally find each other.
And what's interesting issunlight like, like sunlight had
to like.
He thought she was so beautifulstanding under the sunlight,
and so he gazed on her everysingle day.
(46:33):
She didn't know it, um, and ofcourse, in her, her senses drew
her to him like this, her senseof smell, like that tobacco
smell that was mingled with hisown, the scent of his skin and
his hair, like there was itwhich he was drawn by, these
natural ways of being drawn tosomeone, uh, without even it'd
(46:54):
be cool if he asked her if sheminds if he smokes and she pulls
out the tobacco tin that shehad.
Well, what's interesting isthat's how it ends it ends with
her she doesn't pull it out.
She doesn't pull it out, shesqueezes the tin in her pocket
and she puts her arm, she putsher hand in his arm.
In other words, she's going toput her hand in, to put her, her
(47:17):
hand in his arm as they stepout into the street when the
light changes, and she squeezesthe little tin, the little tin
of tobacco in her other pocketand says I'll never mind that.
And that's how it ends.
You know, like she's, you knowso it's.
It's so you get the impressionthat she will at some point give
(47:40):
him the tin.
And so they have had thisinclination to give each other
gifts.
And so he gave her a little cat, and he didn't have any idea
that the cat was actuallysomething that she was imagining
.
She was imagining a cat acrossher shoulders and for some
reason he had this urge to giveher a cat, a little kitten that
(48:03):
was yellow you know what I meanand that naturally crawled up
her arm and rested on hershoulder, very much like how she
imagined the sun to be in theafternoons.
So he had no idea, but he wasdrawn by this urge, this urge to
give her this gift, and hethought it was a crazy urge.
He fought it.
(48:24):
He said I had the cat for aweek.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
In fact this is really crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like he really did and they had to actually come
back the next day and say look,and you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
And she had the tobacco for like a week.
You know exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
So it's kind of like that's too cool, yeah, and and I
I just think, like, like loveis, is can be natural, like that
, it doesn't have to beartificial and so, um, and does
the sun play a role in um, inthat?
For us, given that the sun is,um, you know, it's the source of
(49:01):
all life, which means that isthere a love connection there in
the sun and not in the moon?
You know so the whole, becausewhen you fall in love.
You feel like you've been rebornexactly exactly, and that's
more sun related than moonrelated.
So I it's just kind of like,it's just like this undercurrent
about the moon in thebackground and kind of how we
(49:24):
think about the moon and how weassociate the moon with emotions
and love.
And is that really true, really, you know?
Like is that?
Is that really?
You know, is it one of those?
You know we were talking aboutreality?
It's like, is this really realor is it something different?
And so the people in the storyare struggling with, like what,
(49:44):
their reality, you know, andtheir reality being shaken up,
but but not her name's, penelope.
And so Penelope, you know, not,not Penelope, you know, and not
this gentleman.
So, at at any rate.
So that's kind of those are thekinds of ideas that I want to
play with in my writing now.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
I just want to great.
That's a great story.
That's a really awesome story.
I like it oh well, I'm.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Thank you, inoki, I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna send
you the, I'm gonna send you acopy of it and please, please,
please, be very critical,because this is just this is the
first draft, and so you know, Iwelcome that, I'm going to send
a copy to Taylor, to and maybea couple of other folks and just
get some feedback on on it.
(50:30):
But, yeah, so this is the kindof story that I want to.
I want to write now.
I definitely want to writeabout love.
I definitely want to writeabout real love like natural
love like natural comingstogether in this really human,
flawed, funny and sweet way.
I mean, because that's kind ofwhat it often looks like that's
(50:53):
going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I can't wait.
I'm really excited to see I'llgive you a good critique.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Well, yeah, but tell me you know.
Tell me the things that like,for instance, you know well, gee
, I would have liked to haveknown more about this, or I felt
like I was left hanging aboutthat, or you know whatever it is
, you know, like your experienceas a reader.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
But I just feel like there's a little shift, you know
, like you know, know it's kindof like if you do art and then
there are changes in your lifeand then your art changes.
And it's good, you know, whenartists are real like that and
they change with their life, youknow, because, like, when you
limit them to that one spacethat they were in, they're not
going to be in that one spaceforever.
I mean, well, do you do.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Do you feel that you were very prolific with your
music and now you know you'vetaken a break, right, you had
your son.
There have been these changesin your life and now you're,
you're getting ready to returnto to your music, to songwriting
and singing, and I waswondering, like, do you see?
(51:59):
Like that there are.
Can you already see the changesin your own musical expression?
Speaker 2 (52:06):
I don't think I've ever done anything with the
purpose of being that.
You know, like, like, I justkind of am, and whatever I'm
being while I am is you know.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
And I think that's what it is with me.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
It's.
You know, I love writing andwhen I write I write real and
you know, real like real emotion, you know, and so I have good
writing.
And when I'm playing music, youknow I'm playing and I'm
playing with real empathy andfeeling.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Well, I think it's just.
Whatever it is you're doing isjust an extension of you at that
moment.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And sometimes it's got to bewritten, sometimes it's got to
be, sometimes it's got to justbe, sometimes it's got to be,
sometimes it's got to just be.
You know, I've never reallybeen successful at doing one
thing.
You know, I've been reallysuccessful at doing a lot of
(53:13):
different things, but like it'snot necessarily like a jack of
all trades, you know, because,like, I do find ways to master
the things that I do when I dothem, um, but but it's kind of
like a jack of all trades whereyou know it's just I'd like to
(53:33):
just do one thing, but I'm notmade that way you know, yeah,
not made for for that specific.
Yeah, I never played musicbecause, like I wanted to be a
musician, I played music.
Because I wanted to play music,I wanted to hear what my heart
(53:54):
was telling me, I needed to healand I wanted to sing the things
that I wanted into fruition youknow, and I wanted some of the
things that I sang to make mesee it from an outside view so
that I could process it.
(54:15):
You know, and same with writing.
I think writing was the sameway you know.
And same with writing.
I think writing was the sameway you know, like I didn't
strive to be a poet and have,you know a full composition out
anywhere ever.
You know, I just wrote becauseI couldn't play and I couldn't
play what I wanted to sing and Icouldn't heal myself without
(54:39):
doing both of those but well, Ithink that's a really great note
to end on today.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Um this has been yeah , this has been a lot of fun.
I'm so excited about your, yourhomestead project and getting
updates on on what's, so youknow.
So when we, when we talk nextweek, you'll it'll have, it will
have arrived, and so we get tokind of see it in the process.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
So I'm really looking forward to that oh, my goodness
, I didn't tell you all rightreal quick.
I have sat in probably athousand different patches
looking for a four leaf clovermy whole life.
I was cutting down a tree thatwas over the driveway and I was
tired and I just sat down on thegrass and I looked down in
(55:32):
front of me and I'm like, wow,that's a really weird looking.
Oh my god, it's a four leafclover.
I found my first four leafclover.
That's a really weird looking.
Oh my god, it's a four-leafclover.
I've found my first four-leafclover that's awesome ever just
the other day.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Well, that's awesome it is a big deal and usually and
um usually, taylor will pull acard to give us some inspiration
going into the next week.
She wasn't here, um, but youfound a four-leaf clover.
So, we're going to go with that.
We're going to go with thatGoing into the next week.
(56:07):
We'll have great blessingscoming our way, even if our
world seems chaotic.
You know, like with thecharacters of that story it
might've been like all kinds ofthings were falling apart.
But there you know, to be ableto find true love in the midst
of that right is.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Still here, still existing, still existing, still
carrying on amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, still being blessed in many
different ways.
So we'll go with theinspiration of the four-leaf
clover going into the next week.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
thanks, all right I love you.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Love you too.
Have a great week, too.
Have a great week everyone,thank you.
We are live if you are joining us from YouTube,
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Thank you for joining us.
This is Patty with Patty TalksToo Much.
I'm here with my dear friend,inoki and maybe, you know, maybe
Taylor will be joining us thismorning.
It's always you know, we justnever know.
She works to the wee hours ofFriday nights, you know, as a
(00:35):
waitress, so she might bejoining us later.
Anoki was just showing me herproperty and where she's going
to be putting her new home onher property.
So it's really yeah, it'sreally really exciting.
(01:04):
So I was going to ask you and doyou mind talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
some of the details about this endeavor.
Um, yeah, well, I mean, I'mgetting a 16 by 50 building put
up here in the mountains like acabin building and, uh, and it's
the shell.
So, um, it's going to be alittle while before we can move
in or anything, but I've beenclearing the spot and fixing two
different trenches that are inthe driveway and uh, and I've
(01:29):
got four and a half acres uphere but this is where the
buildings can go and, uh, I'llhave this like beautiful view to
look out on and it'd be reallynice because I from here, I have
like a vantage point of seeingthe whole property um
(01:50):
and where I was down in thefront corner, I couldn't really
see a lot of what was going onand like I'd be outside but to
be on the porch, like I was kindof out of sight of you know
where my son was.
So then I was always justpulling a chair in the random of
wherever he was, and so it'llbe really nice to just be up
(02:14):
here real comfortably.
It's got a lot of windows.
It's got a lot of big, beautifulwindows, a couple three-by-five
windows and they're all youknow hurricane windows and stuff
the roof is like 40 yearwarranty and it's all built to
(02:34):
house code and we got ourpermits through the county,
which was a big, huge relief andwe were originally going to put
it down a little further um,under the oak, but I just felt
like maybe you know it was a lotmore work, a lot more grading
that we would have had to havedone, and I thought, well, it'd
be so nice to have that big openarea for family and people you
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know like to come by.
And then, uh, I have, I want toput a couple you know little
camper spots out here, um, andso that leaves room for things
like that you know, thathappened what's your, what's
your timeline on this, like when?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
how long do you think it's going to take to finish
everything up so you guys canmove into it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
well, the building's gonna be here next weekend,
probably the weekend after that,we'll have a 200 amp power
service drop to it.
Um, and then we're pretty goodat finding materials on facebook
marketplace and stuff you know,for free or cheap yeah um and
(03:44):
uh, and so we'll probably bedoing that.
We're going to recycle some ofthe materials from the teardown
of our house, like we're stillgonna have our house there are
you?
Yeah, I was gonna using it backto the um, the three-room cabin
, the original.
The original yeah, yeah, um allright, so how big?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
okay, so how big is it going to be when you tear
away all of the additions?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
so so it's probably going to be close to the same
size as the building.
It'll be probably around 800square feet.
Um, because the porch the backis not considered an enclosed
porch.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And here's the front porch on the house.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Even though they closed it in and made it a room,
it was still considered openporch, so it'll be about the
same as the building.
The building's going to be 800square feet.
It'll be about the same as thebuilding.
The building's going to be 800square feet.
It might be 850 square feetwith a loft you know, because
it's a lot higher of a building.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So are you going to be able to use, when you tear
away the extra right, thenon-original parts?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I already have the doors for the original cabin
, the door frames are stillthere.
So I just have to put twoexterior doors on the back and
it's completely sealed.
Well, are you going to be ableto use any of the material from
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the teardown with your buildingconstruction so I'll have a lot
of tin and I'll have a lot ofthrough, two by three, two by
four, timbers, you know, likereal, real timbers.
Um, I'll have, I'll have awhole ton of drywall, but that's
probably going to come out togo into the new building.
(05:45):
As long as we can get thesheets off without breaking real
bad or having any major cracks,we'll put them into the new
build.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now what about plumbing?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I want to connect the plumbing to the plumbing
that we have, since we won't beusing it and it's rated for um
such a high flux.
You know, such a high flow, wecan still use the plumbing
that's there and just connect itto that.
Now we'll have we'll have agood amount of pipe, you know,
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but it's on a hill and it'll begraded, you know, down so it's
so, it's going to, it's going tohave the angle that it needs to
get down there to you know, getthrough that distance.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I'm, I'm really looking forward to the updates.
You know, as you as you goalong as you kind of work on on
this kind of this homesteadproject.
I think it's awesome.
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It feels so much nicer being up here on the hill,
you know, like I love beingdown there and and stuff, but
but it's like I, uh, I wasafraid to trim out the trees,
you know, because I hate cuttingtrees down, and and then I
realized like they reallyweren't too healthy because they
were just overgrowing on top ofeach other.
And since we've like cut them,like this guy had three trees
beside him and he was just allhis branches were straight up in
the air, you know, and now,he's dropping out and filling up
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.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, so that's really nice to see that, that
you know some of them are ableto respond to yeah, need to grow
we were talking about that lastweek, you know yeah, about how
they need the sunlight andsometimes in the forest, you
know, if it's not tended orwhatever, um no, I said like
(07:36):
sometimes those, those oldertrees, will just come down
spontaneously combust or comedown.
Yeah, come down and create awhole, you know, a whole area of
sunlight for the other trees,and so it does.
It really sparks their growth.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, back in Native culture.
Native culture was the original, like US forestry, you know,
and Native cultures all hadcontrol burns where they would
light the fire specific timeswhen the winds were going
certain ways, you know, to cleanthe forest, to tend everything
so that all the acorns wouldopen up, because some, some pine
(08:18):
trees will only disperse theirseeds um in extreme heat yeah
like so.
So um you know what time for isspecifically they.
That's why they need to do theburns on them to one, cut them
back a little bit.
To two, clear up the needles,because they kind of mulch
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themselves if you've ever had abig pile of mulch somewhere and
you stuck your hand sorrysomewhere, and you stuck your
hand down in the middle of themulch pile.
You'd know that you canactually get burns in the center
of the mulch pile.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
This, this kind of this consultation I had this
week with this naturopathicperson that that you know I'm
I'm reading her book.
This is a different book.
I'm I'm reading her bookbecause she, she healed her
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rheumatoid arthritis by doing,by doing things.
And it's not, like you know,it's a one, two, three like
we're used to in our culture.
It's like, oh, just take thispill and everything will be
miraculously better.
Well, we all know that, firstof all, that doesn't work.
You know, we're just fooledinto believing that, you know,
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and we kind of live in thisinstant gratification culture,
whatever we believe those things.
So, at any rate, we had a briefconsultation and I am going to
be starting next week, as soonas I get what I need, I'll be
starting my first cleanse.
But there's like a series ofcleanses I'm going to be doing
(10:04):
that are pretty intense.
So parasite cleanse, a liverflush, a colon cleanse that I'll
be doing kind of in that order.
She says that it'll take abouta year for me to heal my
(10:25):
rheumatoid arthritis.
So I'm in it.
I'm in it for the long haul.
I'm jumping in both feet andmaking a commitment to doing
this approach, along with thechanges that I've made in my
diet.
So I have done a lot like I'veeliminated white flour and, you
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know, like sugar, and so I'vereally, really cleaned up my
diet too.
But the problem is is like ifyou've got, let's say you have
parasites and most of us do andyour liver is a little sluggish
and you've got layers along yourcolon that hinder absorption,
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you could be doing all kinds ofthings for your health, but
maybe you're not getting thenutrients, you know.
So you're doing all thesethings, so I'm taking this
nutrient, I'm taking thatnutrient, but it might not be
having as much of an impact asyou would expect because you've
got all these things in the way.
And so the whole point of doingthese cleanses is to really
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free up your body to be able toutilize the nutrients that
you're giving it and also toheal itself, because our bodies
are really amazing and they canreally heal themselves if
they're, if they just if we justget the toxins out of them.
I mean, you know we we talkabout this all the time, inoki,
(11:56):
right how toxic our environmentis, our food, our air, water,
everything.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And so even if you're trying, you know, even if
you're doing your best you know,you're still exposed to a lot I
keep thinking, you know,because I started my nutrition
program and really all I'm doingis limiting calories and now
I'm at 182.
And I was at 215.
(12:26):
That's a lot of weight.
That's a lot of weight, and allI did was change my diet.
You know, all I did was changemy diet, but Americans would
just eat and eat and eat and eat.
It's a comfort for us.
You know, like most placesdon't even have, you know, food
like that you know, or they dohave food like that, but they
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eat small portions of it.
You know over time or have itin, you know much smaller things
.
You know, like I don't know,you know, like I haven't really
changed what I'm eating at all.
You know, I just change theamount how much, yeah, you know,
and and telling myself what Ineed and what I don't need and
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stuff, and like, just you know,losing that weight, you know
what is?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
that 215 180 to that's uh almost 30 pounds right
yeah, almost 30 pounds that'sreally I mean that's, I know
it's awesome.
I mean, I my my progress isgoing a little bit um, a little
bit slower, but you know, I'm,I'm like it's been.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's been like six or eight, almost eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Next week it'll be eight weeks yeah but I mean like
it's yeah yeah, but I mean,like I'm I'm 30 years older than
you, so it's gonna take alittle longer, but that's okay.
That's okay because I'm doingall these other things and I
think that naturally it'll it'llcome off.
I'm not really.
I'm not really worried about it, but it is good, I'm 5 10 you
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know, yeah, well, that's, that's.
I'm really tall yeah that's true, and I'm pretty short one, just
I'm, uh you're, you're nineinches taller than me, but um
you know, what you were, um,what you were talking about in
terms of, like, how, how we eatin our country, right?
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so I have a funny story aboutthat's related to this on this
topic, and that is many yearsago.
I went in the late nineties.
I went to the DominicanRepublic with with my partner at
the time and, and because shewas Dominican, we got to go out
into the country and we went toher hometown and it was probably
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one of the very best vacationsI've ever had.
It was just beautiful and theDominican Republic is awesome.
I love the people and it's abeautiful place.
But, at any rate, where we werestaying, you know, they all
mostly spoke Spanish and it was.
It was okay because she spokeSpanish and so, but they would
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many of the, the, the workersthere.
They would comment that I wasrich, that I must be rich, and
she would laugh and she wouldsay no, and I would say what did
they say?
She said, well, they thinkyou're rich.
I said why would they think I'mrich?
(15:34):
I don't dress any differentlythan you.
And she said, well, they thinkyou're rich because you're
chunky.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's how culture was, though Only the royal
people, only you know reallywealthy people were overweight
ever.
Yeah, you know, or yeah, soyeah you go to a country.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know you go to a country like they go to most
countries, and that's often whythey assume that Americans.
If you travel around the world,if you go to places in Africa
or in Asia or whatever, theyassume that Americans are rich.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's really why we're overweight.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh, no, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The poorer.
The people are here the heavierthey are because the more
they're buying the cheap foodthat they can afford.
Exactly, it's this irony it'sonly three bucks for a whole box
of Twinkies because the morethey're buying the cheap food
that they can afford.
You know, exactly, it's thisirony.
It's only three bucks for awhole box of Twinkies.
I can eat two of them, and befull, you know Like I've been
hungry, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But it's true, it's true.
It's like it's so ironic thatthere would be this assumption
Like.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Crisco.
It's not lard anymore, it'slike oil.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's that there would be this assumption that it's
not lard anymore and lard wouldbe healthy.
Crisco is not, but it's.
It's so true that so there are,you know so, people around the
world.
They function on this, this oldassumption that if you, if you,
have extra weight on you, it'sbecause you have extra riches to
afford the food.
But the irony of that is thatis not true for Americans.
(17:07):
We are made heavy by the toxic,processed, cheap food that we
buy.
You know the fast food.
You know that we that we buybecause it's cheap and you know
we can feed the family on.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, it used to be true and you know we can feed
the family on.
Well, it used to be true.
I think, that the way thatwe're processing food, like
we're eating this crap and thiscrap makes the fat, and then the
fat is really the only thingfeeding us from our own body.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, the problem with that.
You kind of need fat to burnfat and so if you don't have fat
in your diet, like healthy fatin your diet, you might have a
hard time losing weight.
Most of us put on weightbecause there are all of these
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sugars, known and unknown, andundetected and snuck into our
foods.
So it's sugar, that kind ofthat, that makes us fat.
But I also heard that there.
You know that our fat holds alot of toxins, so a lot of the
toxins in our bodies are storedin our in our fat.
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Toxins in our bodies are storedin our fat and so when we lose
weight we're also detoxing.
But sometimes it can feelpretty crappy, like if someone
loses weight very rapidly, whatcould happen is that their liver
gets overloaded with all thosetoxins it's releasing, and that
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could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Losing weight too rapidly.
Your body doesn't have time toadjust to losing weight either,
you know.
I think it's better to loseslow, over time, you know,
because then, everything is kindof going with you.
I was really surprised becauseI'd been overweight, since I had
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nidus, but I didn't havestretch marks, you know, and so
I was thinking well when I loseall the weight, I'm probably
going to have some stretch marksor whatever.
But because I'm losing nice andslow, I haven't.
I haven't had anything likethat or had, you know, loose or
or any of that stuff.
My arms are tightening back up,which is that's nice.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Muscle muscle tone.
Yeah, there's something thereagain.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That's awesome yeah, I mean I feel I feel really good
, like, but all I did was limitthe amount that I was taking in
you know, and I started sayingno to food.
You know, because I'm with afeeder and I love that much food
(19:55):
.
Yeah, I was so poor.
You know, like steaks?
No, I wouldn't have steaks.
And then we had so much steak.
You know, I was eating steaklike every day, you know like
that's, that's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, but I love steak.
(20:16):
I went like two years withouthaving a steak.
I love steak too.
It was my favorite, you know.
I always wanted it but I didn'thave it.
I didn't have the money for itand stuff like that, you know.
And then I got like comfortable, like I was like, well, we got
steak to eat every night.
I'll eat.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Now, what's what?
Because I love talking steak.
So what's your?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
favorite, my, your favorite my favorite steak, like
favorite all-time steak, ever,yeah, um brazilian steak on the
steak, oh really, yeah, Ithought you were gonna say
ribeye or porterhouse.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I really did yeah, I like.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I like steak that has a little bit of fat on it.
You know, because I like theflavor of the fat.
I don't like it when the fat islike too gooey.
I like crispy fat, likeblackened fat, you know.
I like that a lot.
I like marbly looking steaks.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean I love a good.
You know I have a cast ironskillet so I love a good ribeye
or porterhouse, I mean honestly.
But you know, here's somethingthat happened to nokia.
I was just on the phone with mymother yesterday and she
brought this up again.
It does have to do with redmeat.
So I've always been working onmy like, my, my health and my
diet and like how to lose weightand everything.
(21:38):
So I've tried all kinds ofthings, but around between 2020
and 2021.
I got into the carnivore diet,you know.
I had tried different things andI got into the carnivore diet
and I started really seeing somesuccess with losing my brother
in law was doing that, and sowas my aunt and uncle.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, they all did that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And you know, and there are a lot of advantages to
doing that.
However, I was eating talkabout eating steak every day.
I mean like I was eating.
Obviously I was eating red meatpretty much every day.
Now my mother, my mother, hassaid because she's trying to my
mom is funny, she tries to solvethe mystery.
(22:23):
So the mystery, the currentmystery, is Pat was healthy and
had no problems up until acouple of years ago when she had
this little hairline fracturein her ankle, but then
everything kind of went to helland she's got rheumatoid
arthritis.
How did this happen?
How did somebody who had beenhealthy for like 62 years no
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pain in their body, no issues,no medication, no, nothing
whatever and now I hadrheumatoid arthritis?
So my mom's always trying tocome up with these theories, and
so one of her theories is thatthe carnivore diet may have
caused too many crystallinedeposits in my joints, like I
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might've it could have.
Red meat can do that, she said,because it's acidic and it does
this and she does all thisresearch.
It's like the carnivore you,being on the carnivore diet for
a little over a year or two, mayhave caused this condition.
Her other theory is that havingCOVID may have prompted
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something in my system, she said, because it just doesn't make
any sense that all of a sudden,I mean like you're healthy and
you have no nothing going on atall in your body and then all of
a sudden, boom, like you'rehealthy and you have no nothing
going on at all in your body andthen all of a sudden, boom, you
have this series of things thatpoints to rheumatoid arthritis.
So, anyway, that's, that's.
One of her working theories isthat, you know, the carnivore
diet may have contributed to myrheumatoid arthritis and that I
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should have I should, I shouldhave apple cider vinegar every
day, she said, because that'sgoing to dissolve those those
things on your, on your, on yourknuckles, and so I promised her
that I would include that in myapple cider vinegar every day
to help with the deposits on myknuckles every day.
(24:19):
To help with the deposits on myknuckles, I've come to the
conclusion that, when it comesto the way we eat, I honestly
think that mixing these eatingstyles up is probably the
healthiest thing.
(24:40):
So there might be certain timesof the year where it's awesome
to be vegan or vegetarian, andthen other times of the year
where it may be better for ourhealth and our bodies to be
carnivore, and so that maybe thehealthiest approach is not so
much oh I have to be strictlyvegan or oh, I have to be
strictly vegetarian or oh, Ihave to be strictly carnivore,
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but to do a combination, to kindof move from one to the other
and according to seasons, Ithink would be awesome, because
there are times of the yearwhere, you know, being a vegan
or vegetarian makes more sense,and then other times of the year
it makes more sense to havemore of a meat, you know kind of
(25:24):
a more meat-based um diet.
So that's kind of theconclusion that I've come up
with is like it's not just oh,do this or oh, do that forever,
do this forever.
But it's like, well, why don'tyou, um, do these different
diets in different seasons?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
and so that's kind of how I feel about about the
calorie count.
You know, like like I, I canstill have whatever I feel like
I need whenever I need it, youknow as long as I'm making sure
that it's within the reason ofwhat I'm supposed to consume in
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the day and there'll be a pointwhere I'm gonna go up in
calories like so I'm not gonnastay at the 1600 forever you
know, this is to lose the weight, right?
you know, um, but but then youknow I'm, I'm not gonna have a
need to eat.
You know more than 2100 calories, you know which on average is
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what I burn in the day, so thenI should be able to maintain
whatever weight that I'm at thenwith a 2000 calorie diet, you
know, and then I can still havelike, if I feel like I really
use something green right now, Ican still have all the green
things that I want, you know,and if I feel like man, I could
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really use some, you know, meat,or, or, you know, maybe I don't
want that kind of protein,maybe I want more of like a whey
, you know for energy orsomething you know like all
right, I can have that you knowlike, but
but, but then I'm not like, likeI'm mind blown by it, you know,
because, like I really wasn'texpecting that to work at all,
(27:05):
you know, like you know, and itis, it absolutely has.
And my stomach is shrunk downand now my body's like expecting
that amount, you know, it's not.
It's not like I'm like, oh, I'mreally hungry, or I'm fighting
like a lot of cravings now, likebecause, like I started to get
hungry and I'm like, oh, I'mreally hungry, or I'm fighting
like a lot of cravings now,because, like I started to get
hungry and I'm like, nope,you're just bored, get up.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know walking around or doing something.
It's true.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Because I'm like no, you just had, you know, 200
calories, You're okay.
You know you gotta wait,because later on you're going to
want to eat too, and that'sreasonable, but you haven't
learned this yet.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, and these are the kind of conversations we
have to have with ourselves,Because sometimes you know it's
like changing your relationshipto food and being aware it's
like why do I want to eat rightnow?
I shouldn't, because I just ate.
So what's going on?
And, like you said, yeah,you're bored, Get up.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know having those conversations with ourselves.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to kind of deprogram
our psychology around food.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It is.
It's so embedded in our head.
I just lay on the couch and eatsome ice cream.
Oh, I got the smart foodpopcorn, but I ate the entire
bag.
You know I don't think thatworks the same.
You know, like that's whereI've been.
You know I've been doing allthat stuff.
I've been eating because I'mbored.
You know I feed Nidus and then,you know, like he's growing,
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he's a child he needs a lot morethan I need.
I don't have to eat every timeI feed him.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Now, one thing that I've done and this really helps
with reducing my caloric intakeevery day is that you know, I do
the intermittent fasting Right,so I just kind of make sure
that I go a certain amount oftime between meals, you know.
So my last meal might be at sixo'clock and I might not have
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another meal until like two thenext day.
So that I've, you know, Ifasted a good amount of time and
sometimes that means that I'llhave like a meal, or maybe a
meal and a half a day, butthat's okay and, again, that's
cutting my calories.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I think that's how I ate, like when I met you.
You know I mean part of it waslike instability, you know.
But then there was this otherpart of it, where this how I ate
my whole life you know, Ididn't really live off much more
than a sandwich or two in a dayI eat about two meals.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's like this over overconsumption.
It's like normalizingoverconsumption.
It's like how we think abouthouses they have to be big
houses.
How we think about cars theyhave to be big cars.
How we think about now thatthat is changing to some extent,
but it's like in the Americanculture it's like everything is
supersized.
You know, it's kind of like bythe way that the supersized guy
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died recently, by the way, but,like you know, I think it was
just my mom was just talkingabout that, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But the eighties, the eighties, you know the when
when megas, the 80s, the 80s,you know the when when megas yes
, megas hit, yeah, and then, thesupers, and then and then
extremes, you know like you know, mega centers and mega stores
and fucking you know and megaconsumption, that's all.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this mega consumption everywhere,
everywhere you go, like thesebig, huge stores you know to buy
, you know everything becamelike a super, super, target,
super, walmart super, this super, that, like you know, I think,
I think we're all being pushedto really ascertain what, what
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our reality is and what, who,what do we trust and who do we
trust?
And the thing is, I think itreally comes down to trusting
ourselves.
I think that we're reallymoving into a time when there's
going to be so much disclosedthat it's really going to be
gobsmacking for most people whenthey see how much of our
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reality really isn't what theythought it was, how much of our
history isn't really what wethought it was.
How we feel about theauthorities, right, like these,
you know these authorities andthese experts, and it turns out
that most of that is bullshit.
You know, like you know, youhave Fauci, you know, at
(31:41):
congressional hearings and he'sjust, you know, like everything
that he said during the COVIDpandemic was kind of bullshit
and made up and it just appearedapparently.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You know, like, whatever, like everybody has
with everyone and yeah, all over.
Yeah, I know you told me to golook up the weather and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Oh, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I looked it up.
There were some earthquakes inGeorgia Yesterday like Okachobee
got hit with like a super cellstorm.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And Florida was having a lot of issues with the
rain.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
People were pulling over.
They're like it doesn't lookthis bad in the video, but this
is intense.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I'm a.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Floridian, and then Dubai had like a pop-up thing or
whatever, where people werebeing blown away.
And it just started out ofnowhere.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, these wind storms, these winds that come
through, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, there's been some crazy winds with the
thunderstorms, which there'salways been a little bit of wind
with thunderstorms, but it'snever looked hurricane-ish you
know I mean in Florida, like itpours it's sheet raining, but
it's not a hurricane.
There's a difference you knowwhen you see the wind and the
mist and the sheeting, you know,circulating in midair as it's
(33:12):
moving, that's like hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's what hurricanes do and that's weird.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And that's what happened to Houston.
And that's kind of like whathappened through florida the
other day, but it was little,they were like little cells you
know, so, like the storm thatwent over lake okatobi was like
this, just a little smaller thanlake okatobi, so it wasn't huge
.
You know, um, it's a prettysmall storm, but when it rolls
(33:38):
up the top of those rim canals,man I mean the winds that it
picks up going across that flatwater is insane.
And then lake okachobee isalways like 10 to 15 degrees
warmer than the ocean.
So whatever the ocean's at like, lake okachobee is its own,
like little mini hurricane makeryeah, you know, like any any
(34:00):
storm that crosses LakeOkeechobee just explodes, and it
can do whatever it wants to.
It can make a complete U-turntwice, but Lake Okeechobee is
that boomerang that it needs.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I've also been hearing about tornadoes too.
Have you been picking up onthat?
There's just all thesetornadoes happening everywhere.
There's so many tornadoes outin you been picking up on that,
like there's all these tornadoesso many?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
tornadoes out in the midwest and out in oklahoma and
texas.
Texas is having weather thatlike yeah what the hell?
I know what the hell when I wasin texas it rained like a
motherfucker in the spring.
I remember just walking throughmud.
I remember thinking I thoughtfucking texas was a desert.
What the hell is this?
you know, houston is usuallylike spared from it, though
(34:46):
houston's like drier and is likethe desert.
I was like way over in kilgorein the east part of texas.
Georgia has me feeling a littlebetrayed, so like I've been
more on like world weather thanlike my my area weather because
they don't know what's happeninghere, ever, ever.
This is like the vortex.
(35:07):
They're like it's raining whereyou are and it's not.
It's like sunny and shiny andthey'll tell me that it's going
to rain for three days straightand then it doesn't rain.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But you know, speaking of reality and not
knowing your reality and stuff,I just wanted to touch on
remember.
Before we started, before wewent live, I was telling you
about this story that I finallywrote.
You know, and so I just wantedto say a few words about it,
because it does have to do withthat.
(35:41):
So, back a couple months ago,when I mentioned to you and
Taylor that I had had a dreamabout going through the process
of writing a story and I thoughtit was such a delicious story,
I wanted to write it, a story.
And I thought it was such adelicious story, I wanted to
write it.
So I finally you know, becauseschool's out now, so I've got
some time I'm relaxing, thinkingabout it, getting into my
(36:10):
imagination, getting thoseimaginative juices flowing, you
know and so I wrote it.
And what's what's interestingis that it's the backdrop for
this.
This it's a love story, youknow, between these two people
who meet in the most unusual way, um, but the backdrop is that
the, the moon, has just, um,broken apart and of the sky, and
(36:38):
so all of these people arehaving.
There are people who are havinga very strong response to it,
like, oh, it's going to changeeverything.
It may even change our capacityfor love, because people
associate the moon with ouremotions.
But then, on the other hand,you've got these, these
(37:01):
individual people in the storywho are having the experience of
their lives being a little bitbetter without the moon and that
what they, what they areexperiencing, is the, the
absolute beauty and power of thesun and sunlight, and that it's
(37:24):
actually through the, theirrelationship with the sunlight,
that they are falling in love.
Um, and so that's kind of thebackdrop to um this story.
So I went through all of thesedifferent titles for it and I
(37:44):
kind of came up with After theMoon Fell Away is the title of
it.
But these two charactersPenelope is someone who works in
an office and every day at theend of her day she doesn't stand
in the bus stop where all ofher colleagues are mostly
talking about the drama and thecraziness of the fact that 21
(38:08):
days ago the moon fell apart andfell out of the sky and the
Navy had to shoot the biggerchunks so that it didn't hurt
earth, and so it's fallen awayand there's no more moon and you
have all of these.
You know people kind of freakingout, but penelope isn't
freaking out.
So, at any rate, she every dayafter work, instead of standing
(38:29):
in the bus stop, she stands justoutside the bus stop where the
sun hits the earth in a veryparticular way, and she stands
right, perfectly in this, in theshaft of sunlight, um and um
and so, and always has her eyesclosed so that she can absorb
the sun, and the sun feels likea warm cat sprawled on her
(38:54):
shoulders right and so that'skind of the image that she has,
and so that's Penelope.
So Penelope is not experiencinga problem with the moon not
being there.
Now she has the experience andshe's.
She always has her eyes closed,but now she has an experience
of every day.
She smells this very wonderfulscent of tobacco, like pipe
(39:18):
tobacco, that kind of wafts byher.
She doesn't open up her eyes,but every afternoon she looks
forward to this scent becauseshe thinks it's the most
beautiful scent, right and so Ibuy pipe tobacco just to open
the bag and smell it oh my god,isn't it wonderful.
And they're all these, thesedifferent signs.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
My Papa John.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, it's really, it's kind of like this, this
manly kind of thing, but anyway,she, you know.
So the days, the days go on andthen she has this urge, this
urge that she can't fight, to goto a local tobacco shop and
find that blend right, and and,and.
So she has this reallyinteresting conversation with
(39:59):
this old guy behind the counterwho is dropping some knowledge
about the moon, because he says,look at those guys over there.
So you got all those guyssitting over in a corner and
they're smoking their pipes andthey're wearing tweed and
they're talking about how themoon falling away is going to
affect the stock market andeverything that they're
complaining.
Moon falling away is going toaffect the stock market and
(40:20):
everything that they'recomplaining.
And he's like you know, maybenot he's.
And then he tells her, he tellsher, he basically he asks her
in their little conversationhave you been to the beach?
And she's like no, he said westill have tides.
And so and this excites herit's like wow, we still have
tides.
So there's something.
So there's a little bit of likewhat's going on?
(40:42):
Because didn't the moon controlthe tides?
Why do we still have tides?
So it's this whole thing that'skind of unfolding, but anyway.
So she has this delightfulconversation with the guy behind
the counter.
Who's this old, jolly guy, youknow, with like a white
handlebar mustache, you knowjust kind of like who you would
expect behind a counter in atobacco shop.
(41:03):
And so she gets this little tinof tobacco that is exactly what
she thinks is what she'ssmelling in the afternoon and
she realizes that she is almostlike falling in love with the
man who walks by, who shedoesn't see, whose scent is
(41:25):
mingled with this tobacco smoke.
And so one day she's standing,as she always does, in the sun
with her eyes closed, waitingfor that waft of tobacco to walk
by, because he walks byapparently every day and she
feels a weight on her toe, andwhen she finally opens up her
(41:49):
eyes there's a little kittenthat has been left at her foot.
And so she takes the kittenhome.
It's a little yellow kitten andshe calls it sunshine.
And of course, when the kittencomes home and she feeds it and
whatever, it nestles up acrossher shoulder just like the sun.
So anyway, the guy shows up andhe's all apologetic because he
(42:13):
realizes that maybe this was animposition and he has assumed
that she was blind because hereyes were always closed.
So it's this whole awkward andwonderful interaction between
the two of them.
And she doesn't think that he'sthe man.
She doesn't.
He doesn't appear to have apipe, but he's kind and so and
she gets a little testy with him.
(42:35):
So you dropped, so you left,like what a charity kitten for
the blind girl.
And he's like no, no no.
It's weird, like when theyfinally talk, you know, and so
she's assuming that it's notthis man, and he asks her you
know he wants to.
He owns up to giving her thekitten but then apologizes and
(42:58):
says if it's an imposition he'lltake it back.
And she said, no, no, it'sperfect.
At any rate, um, she doesn'tthink that he's him because
there's no scent, right, andthat's what she associated with
Um.
But he asked her out for, youknow, like a couple of you know,
you want to go down, for youknow, there's a little cafe
close by we can get a cup ofcoffee.
(43:20):
And he extends his arm, youknow, like to for her to hold on
to his arm, and she doesn'ttake it because she's afraid
that if the real man that she,you know, that she kind of
smells every afternoon walks byand see, see, you know, she
doesn't want the real man to seeher with her arm, her, her hand
(43:40):
, within another man's arm, andso she refuses.
And so they walk to the cornerand as they're waiting for the
light to change it's reallyawkward moment, right, really
awkward and he says, um, do youmind if I smoke?
And so there's this wonderfulscene at the end where she
(44:03):
realizes that he is that it'shim that it is him, you know,
and so it ends.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Oh, that's a cute little story.
It's cute, isn't it?
It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
But it's like from the backdrop of, like, this
whole thing that's happened, youknow, and there are some people
like in the office and this inthe tobacco shop that are really
freaking out.
How is this going to affect us?
How is it going to affect lifeon Earth?
Is it going to like what's itgoing to do to the stock market,
all of these things?
Are we going to keep going?
(44:35):
But but then there are thesepeople who kind of?
kept going.
Yeah, yeah, that were moreinfluenced by the sunlight, and
so it begs the question is itlike, what has been more
important?
Has it been the sunlight?
(44:55):
And of course we associate themoon with emotions and moonlight
, but the moon doesn't have anylight.
It's always been the sunlightand of course, we associate the
moon with emotions and moonlight, but the moon doesn't have any
light.
It's always been the sun.
So, um, at any rate, that'skind of that's the story and um,
I'm I'm working on it.
I have the first draft done.
Um and inoki, if you want me toum send, send you a copy of the
(45:16):
story so you can kind of givesome criticism.
I would love that I'll send itto you, but at any rate.
So that's the kind of writing.
It's a little different,obviously, than what I've been
writing, but I'm glad I took abreak from writing and now I'm
returning to it, and I'm kind ofreturning to it with different
(45:41):
sensibilities, I guess, anddifferent I don't know a
different thought process thatI'm bringing into the writing.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
It sounds like really nice andsweet.
Yeah, like I like the mysteryand the accidental meaning.
Yeah, I like that.
I like the whole storyline.
It kind of reminded me of likea true love story you know, like
the Notebook or something youknow.
Yeah, like I love that movie.
(46:09):
I watched that movie like 300times.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I mean we all want to believe in like true romance.
Real, love Real love, how peoplereally find each other.
And what's interesting issunlight like, like sunlight had
to like.
He thought she was so beautifulstanding under the sunlight,
and so he gazed on her everysingle day.
(46:33):
She didn't know it, um, and ofcourse, in her, her senses drew
her to him like this, her senseof smell, like that tobacco
smell that was mingled with hisown, the scent of his skin and
his hair, like there was itwhich he was drawn by, these
natural ways of being drawn tosomeone, uh, without even it'd
(46:54):
be cool if he asked her if sheminds if he smokes and she pulls
out the tobacco tin that shehad.
Well, what's interesting isthat's how it ends it ends with
her she doesn't pull it out.
She doesn't pull it out, shesqueezes the tin in her pocket
and she puts her arm, she putsher hand in his arm.
In other words, she's going toput her hand in, to put her, her
(47:17):
hand in his arm as they stepout into the street when the
light changes, and she squeezesthe little tin, the little tin
of tobacco in her other pocketand says I'll never mind that.
And that's how it ends.
You know, like she's, you knowso it's.
It's so you get the impressionthat she will at some point give
(47:40):
him the tin.
And so they have had thisinclination to give each other
gifts.
And so he gave her a little cat, and he didn't have any idea
that the cat was actuallysomething that she was imagining
.
She was imagining a cat acrossher shoulders and for some
reason he had this urge to giveher a cat, a little kitten that
(48:03):
was yellow you know what I meanand that naturally crawled up
her arm and rested on hershoulder, very much like how she
imagined the sun to be in theafternoons.
So he had no idea, but he wasdrawn by this urge, this urge to
give her this gift, and hethought it was a crazy urge.
He fought it.
(48:24):
He said I had the cat for aweek.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
In fact this is really crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like he really did and they had to actually come
back the next day and say look,and you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
And she had the tobacco for like a week.
You know exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
So it's kind of like that's too cool, yeah, and and I
I just think, like, like loveis, is can be natural, like that
, it doesn't have to beartificial and so, um, and does
the sun play a role in um, inthat?
For us, given that the sun is,um, you know, it's the source of
(49:01):
all life, which means that isthere a love connection there in
the sun and not in the moon?
You know so the whole, becausewhen you fall in love.
You feel like you've been rebornexactly exactly, and that's
more sun related than moonrelated.
So I it's just kind of like,it's just like this undercurrent
about the moon in thebackground and kind of how we
(49:24):
think about the moon and how weassociate the moon with emotions
and love.
And is that really true, really, you know?
Like is that?
Is that really?
You know, is it one of those?
You know we were talking aboutreality?
It's like, is this really realor is it something different?
And so the people in the storyare struggling with, like what,
(49:44):
their reality, you know, andtheir reality being shaken up,
but but not her name's, penelope.
And so Penelope, you know, not,not Penelope, you know, and not
this gentleman.
So, at at any rate.
So that's kind of those are thekinds of ideas that I want to
play with in my writing now.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
I just want to great.
That's a great story.
That's a really awesome story.
I like it oh well, I'm.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Thank you, inoki, I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna send
you the, I'm gonna send you acopy of it and please, please,
please, be very critical,because this is just this is the
first draft, and so you know, Iwelcome that, I'm going to send
a copy to Taylor, to and maybea couple of other folks and just
get some feedback on on it.
(50:30):
But, yeah, so this is the kindof story that I want to.
I want to write now.
I definitely want to writeabout love.
I definitely want to writeabout real love like natural
love like natural comingstogether in this really human,
flawed, funny and sweet way.
I mean, because that's kind ofwhat it often looks like that's
(50:53):
going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I can't wait.
I'm really excited to see I'llgive you a good critique.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Well, yeah, but tell me you know.
Tell me the things that like,for instance, you know well, gee
, I would have liked to haveknown more about this, or I felt
like I was left hanging aboutthat, or you know whatever it is
, you know, like your experienceas a reader.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
But I just feel like there's a little shift, you know
, like you know, know it's kindof like if you do art and then
there are changes in your lifeand then your art changes.
And it's good, you know, whenartists are real like that and
they change with their life, youknow, because, like, when you
limit them to that one spacethat they were in, they're not
going to be in that one spaceforever.
I mean, well, do you do.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Do you feel that you were very prolific with your
music and now you know you'vetaken a break, right, you had
your son.
There have been these changesin your life and now you're,
you're getting ready to returnto to your music, to songwriting
and singing, and I waswondering, like, do you see?
(51:59):
Like that there are.
Can you already see the changesin your own musical expression?
Speaker 2 (52:06):
I don't think I've ever done anything with the
purpose of being that.
You know, like, like, I justkind of am, and whatever I'm
being while I am is you know.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
And I think that's what it is with me.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
It's.
You know, I love writing andwhen I write I write real and
you know, real like real emotion, you know, and so I have good
writing.
And when I'm playing music, youknow I'm playing and I'm
playing with real empathy andfeeling.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Well, I think it's just.
Whatever it is you're doing isjust an extension of you at that
moment.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And sometimes it's got to bewritten, sometimes it's got to
be, sometimes it's got to justbe, sometimes it's got to be,
sometimes it's got to just be.
You know, I've never reallybeen successful at doing one
thing.
You know, I've been reallysuccessful at doing a lot of
(53:13):
different things, but like it'snot necessarily like a jack of
all trades, you know, because,like, I do find ways to master
the things that I do when I dothem, um, but but it's kind of
like a jack of all trades whereyou know it's just I'd like to
(53:33):
just do one thing, but I'm notmade that way you know, yeah,
not made for for that specific.
Yeah, I never played musicbecause, like I wanted to be a
musician, I played music.
Because I wanted to play music,I wanted to hear what my heart
(53:54):
was telling me, I needed to healand I wanted to sing the things
that I wanted into fruition youknow, and I wanted some of the
things that I sang to make mesee it from an outside view so
that I could process it.
(54:15):
You know, and same with writing.
I think writing was the sameway you know.
And same with writing.
I think writing was the sameway you know, like I didn't
strive to be a poet and have,you know a full composition out
anywhere ever.
You know, I just wrote becauseI couldn't play and I couldn't
play what I wanted to sing and Icouldn't heal myself without
(54:39):
doing both of those but well, Ithink that's a really great note
to end on today.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Um this has been yeah , this has been a lot of fun.
I'm so excited about your, yourhomestead project and getting
updates on on what's, so youknow.
So when we, when we talk nextweek, you'll it'll have, it will
have arrived, and so we get tokind of see it in the process.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
So I'm really looking forward to that oh, my goodness
, I didn't tell you all rightreal quick.
I have sat in probably athousand different patches
looking for a four leaf clovermy whole life.
I was cutting down a tree thatwas over the driveway and I was
tired and I just sat down on thegrass and I looked down in
(55:32):
front of me and I'm like, wow,that's a really weird looking.
Oh my god, it's a four leafclover.
I found my first four leafclover.
That's a really weird looking.
Oh my god, it's a four-leafclover.
I've found my first four-leafclover that's awesome ever just
the other day.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Well, that's awesome it is a big deal and usually and
um usually, taylor will pull acard to give us some inspiration
going into the next week.
She wasn't here, um, but youfound a four-leaf clover.
So, we're going to go with that.
We're going to go with thatGoing into the next week.
(56:07):
We'll have great blessingscoming our way, even if our
world seems chaotic.
You know, like with thecharacters of that story it
might've been like all kinds ofthings were falling apart.
But there you know, to be ableto find true love in the midst
of that right is.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Still here, still existing, still existing, still
carrying on amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, still being blessed in many
different ways.
So we'll go with theinspiration of the four-leaf
clover going into the next week.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
thanks, all right I love you.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Love you too.
Have a great week, too.
Have a great week everyone,thank you.
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