September 8, 2024 • 67 mins
Have you ever lost something so dear to you that the pain felt unbearable? Taylor did, and in her heartfelt story, she shares the grief of losing her beloved cat, Shelly, and the touching ceremony she held in her memory. Alongside her, Anoki finds a new lease on life by joining a metal band, discovering camaraderie and creative joy and uncovers unexpected connections through the simple, yet profound act of singing, reminding us all of the power of music and community during life's changing tides.
From the heartbreak of loss to the joy of new adventures, our episode shifts its focus to the warmth of newfound friendships outside the workplace. Patti recounts a heartwarming visit to a goat farm in Dawsonville, where she discovered a fresh source for goat cheesemaking and possible lasting bonds. We also dive into the simple pleasures of attending local farmer's markets and baking sourdough bread with ancient einkorn wheat, capturing the spirit of community through shared passions and delightful homemade experiences.
Yet, amidst the joy, we discuss the harsh realities of today's world, particularly the harrowing experiences of school shootings and the alarming rise of violence in schools. Listen as we explore the impact on students, especially within marginalized communities, and the role of social media in perpetuating harmful behaviors. Through personal anecdotes and serious reflection, we delve into the troubling trends in school safety and the growing consideration of homeschooling as a safer alternative. Ending on a note of hope, we emphasize the importance of expressing love and support within our communities, offering heartfelt messages and personal stories that underscore the need for connection and understanding in these turbulent times.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning.
Good morning.
This is Patty, with Patty TalksToo Much and we are live with
my dear friends Anoki and Taylor.
It's been yeah, it's been acouple of weeks, so it's amazing
how much happens in our livesand in the world in just a
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couple of weeks, right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I lost my familiar.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
My cat.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh no, no, you have.
Didn't you have more than onecat?
Didn't you have more than onecat Did?
You have more than one cat,just one cat.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
One cat.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What was her name?
Shelly.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What happened?
It was about 10.
But I don't really know.
We went camping.
We came back I couldn't findher.
I thought, well, she'll comeback.
Days passed and then I began topick up a scent in the
neighborhood across the street.
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My sweet, sweet friend Michellesat with me and held space.
I got out divining rods andasked them.
I asked spirit to just juststeer me in the right direction.
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We asked the neighborhood catto show us where she was.
We ask our dog on a leash,after he smelled her blanket, to
show us where she was.
And they all went to the sameplace and it was house on the
corner.
So I had to knock on the doorand say, hey, I know this is
really crazy, but, um, I thinkthat my cat might be in your
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basement or under your house,because I can, can smell it
anyways.
Um, michelle's boyfriend, john,and I suited up and we climbed
20 feet through the mosttraumatic crawl space I have
ever encountered and werecovered my cat because it was
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her Um, and we were able to havea ceremony for her um with the
boys, which is such a blessing,because with cats you don't
always get to do that, you know.
And now she's, she's alwayswith us, she's in the yard, but
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I have to tell you that it'salmost, it's this very sad
feeling and I'm going to missher terribly.
I miss her.
I've already, I've already seenher like sitting on the porch
in a chair and like, oh my God,she's not there, but she was
there.
So I know she's still around me,but I feel like my guard is
down spiritually.
Or, like you know, cats dothings for you that you don't
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realize they yeah, they're,they're protective.
So protective, yeah, and so Ifeel like my words have been
like taken down.
I hate to say that well that'll.
Yeah, I mean lots lots hashappened um, in the last few
(03:27):
weeks here.
So enoki started a metal band.
Yeah man, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, I didn't start it, I just joined yeah I'm just
joining you, she joined themusic at this point I I felt, I
felt bad the other day.
I was like at this point, likeI will literally sing along to
anything other than polka, justto play out yeah, just that's
all genres of polka.
I don't I don't work.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Last night at work last night, uh, the guys in the
kitchen were like taylor.
Um, a thuggish, ruggish bonecame on and they were like
taylor hit the tasha partbecause now they all know that I
can hit a note.
So I'm like it's so funny.
I mean like obviously I can'tright now, but it was great.
I love singing too.
I miss it very much yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I felt like like I don't know, like just way more
myself, you know, just beingable to create stuff, you know
unique avenue for you, becausethat's well you know it's really
funny.
I said, so, I have, I have, I.
I have this like joke.
You know, I've always had thisjoke that I was like the random
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skittle dropped in a box of darkgoth chocolate you know,
because, like literally, all myfriends in high school were like
all the all the goth kids, youknow, and I'm wearing rainbow
pants and tie-dye shirt and youknow I literally was like the
Skittle in the box of dark gothchocolate.
(04:58):
But so I sent it to all mymetalhead friends and stuff, all
my metalhead friends and stuff,and they were like, wow, inoki,
you know we couldn't put you toa genre ever, you know, but we
kind of feel like maybe thismight be your thing.
You know, my friend Ash waslike if you don't stick with
(05:19):
this band.
Your screams are so good to bewasted, you know like, like do
something else with it becauseit was awesome but uh, but so it
felt really good or whatever.
I do have like a chestinfection, not from screaming
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but from conquering the oldhouse and stuff and doing some
stuff there and pulling somethings apart.
So that was probably a poordecision to do the week that I
joined the band, but but itneeded to be done and I had to
do it, so oh, that's awesome, Ilove it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I went out with them on Friday night and I will tell
you, it was like I don't know,like I know I connect with
people, you know, but like Ifelt like I had known them for a
decade.
Those connections are happeningright now a lot them, their
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partners, their kids.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I just feel great and they want to keep the kids
involved.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, so I've been so displaced up here Even if we're
not playing, we got along sowell that I would love to hang
out with them all the time.
Anyway, they're really cool.
I went to this place calledBlackstrap in Gainesville.
And it was like a little rockbar, like cool little venue.
(06:56):
Kind of reminded me of the Oddin Asheville, but less Odd, so
it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I love that, I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, and it was great because I was completely
panicking about, like, a lot ofthings you know, which I'm sure
we'll get into and I mean I'lllet patty, drop that um, since,
uh it's, it's up your alley moreyeah, yeah, unfortunately, but
you know before we get into someof the darker things that have
happened recently.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Um, speaking about connecting with community,
because you know I've been kindof, you know, out out here like
you know well yeah but like whoam I going to connect with?
you know, whatever.
And what's interesting is atwork.
It's bizarre because, you know,I'll just say briefly we did
(07:51):
this weird thing this week thatI didn't want to do and I've
never had to do at any otherschool, and that is that the
head of the department decidedthat when we have a PLC meeting,
like when we have adepartment-wide meeting, that
one of the sections of thedepartment decided that when we
have a PLC meeting, like when wehave a department wide meeting,
that one of the sections of thedepartment have to do
presentations about what they'redoing successfully in class and
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each one of us have to get upthere and say I do this and this
really works for me.
And I was like fuck, a horseand pony show for real.
And you know how.
I feel about that it's like Idon't, don't want, you know, I
just do my thing in theclassroom.
I don't feel like puttingtogether some whole presentation
to get brownie points for otherfrom other teachers and all
this bullshit, because I don'teven believe in all that shit.
(08:34):
So my, when, the when the umenglish department, uh chair,
well, the head of, uh, americanlit, said, hey, so what do you
want to do?
I said said exit tickets.
And she was like okay, andbecause I don't know if you know
what exit tickets are, butthey're like the little thing
you do the last two minutes ofclass where the kids kind of
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write something or whatever.
But I have this whole thingthat I do with exit tickets.
Anyway, she it wasn't like oh, Ido this really great thing with
group interaction, these groups, and we get all this stuff, you
know, and all this likeeducational lingo that I hate,
you know.
So I didn't, I wasn't going todo that.
(09:18):
So I got up and said well, I'mgoing to make a case for exit
tickets, you know, like the twominutes of the last part of the
day.
Here are my little exit tickets.
They're all in color.
This, here's the board, here'sa picture, and blah, blah, blah
and whatever.
And I just feel like and I evensaid this is the low tech, like
you can count on me for the lowtech stuff, because I'm not
(09:38):
going to get up there and say,oh, this is how I use this app,
or this is how I use AI, or thisis how I do it.
You know, I'm like no, just youknow, I just I'm not, I'm not
into it and I'm not into thehorse and pony show.
So, at any rate, I just got upthere and did my thing.
But what's interesting is I hadto really deal with my own ego,
(09:59):
because I knew that people werelooking at me like she's
probably too old to be in aclassroom right now she's doing
exit tickets.
Like they were looking at melike what, like there was
nothing technical about what Iwas doing.
It was all just old fashionedpracticing sentence writing on
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exit tickets about the topic ofthe day and whatever you have a
lot of things that you couldhave done.
You know the whole horse andpony show I could have, but I
didn't.
I don't want to do that shit.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't want to because you're not a low-tech
teacher, and you're not too oldto be in a classroom and you
have incorporated common colorsand all kinds of things into
your classroom.
Yeah, and you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But at this point it's kind of like my whole
teaching career.
I feel like, yeah, my wholeteaching career I haven't really
bought into the educationalsystem.
And so now, at the very tailend of my teaching career, it's
like, yeah, this, theeducational system is fucked and
(11:09):
I'm just here making connectionwith students and I don't
really give a shit about any youknow, I mean like there's, just
like we know how I feel aboutit.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly so just make your
beautiful cheeses and breadsRight, and so speaking right,
Speaking of which.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So anyway, it's kind of like I know I'm I'm making
some connections at work, but Iam the oldest one in the
department and I do think thatthere's an ageist thing that
goes on and I do think that, um,you know, I don't, I, you know,
it's not like I'm not going tobe making friends at Gainesville
.
Let's just put it that way.
(11:46):
I'm not going to be makingthese friends that I hang out
with at Gainesville, becausethey're all teachers who are
totally invested in the system.
They speak a particular lingoand I don't speak that language.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't want to, except for the one that you went
out to the thing.
So we have a box instead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The community is one person, you know what I mean,
but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
We'll see, because she's really invested in, like
how yeah, she's really investedin you know the kind of like
being part of that.
She's going to be around, likeshe wants to be in the system
for another 10 years and I'mtaking it one year at a time.
It's like I don't know if I'mgoing to be here next year
Probably not.
But at any rate, on the topicthough, I mean I went all the
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way around that to mentionsomething about community
connection, and so I had thisreally awesome connection
yesterday, because I went out toa goat farm in Dawsonville and
I got my first gallon of rawmilk and I made my first thing
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of goat cheese milk.
That was that like literallywas harvested like that day.
So yesterday morning he milkedher goat and yesterday afternoon
I made goat cheese with it.
So I'm really thrilled aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And that connection.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
we were like, you know, we, we were really on the
same page.
So she's a woman who she'sshe's making goat cheese.
She goes to the local farmer'smarket.
She said, listen, there arefolks at the local, local
farmer's market who do this andthat you would really like them.
It's really a great communityof people and so why don't you
come out next Saturday and meetsome of the people at the
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farmer's market out here?
And I was like I'm there, I'mtotally, I'm totally there, so
I'm going to go out out.
Uh, you know, it's not a hugefarmer's market.
I'm used to like Delrayfarmer's market down in Florida,
which is huge but yeah.
No, it's awesome though, yeah,so I mean, our space is nicer
(13:56):
yeah, no, I agree, so it's justthe way that it's when I go pet
the goat and I oh yeah, no,that's what I was doing
yesterday.
I was petting the goats.
I met the goats, I know theirnames and it's really it was.
It was awesome.
So I met the goats.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You get to connect with them too.
Yeah, yeah it was awesome andthank them for their cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And I also wanted to show you guys one other thing.
So you know how I been makingsourdough bread, or like
starting to make sourdough bread.
Um, I have wanted to work witha um, with a flour that's called
ancorn and it's wheat, that'sthe original wheat.
This is like.
(14:37):
This is these wheat berries arelike the same as they were like
thousands of years ago.
So most of the wheat we get hasbeen kind of changed over the
years.
But, and corn, that's e I n k?
O?
R?
N.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I've had this bread, yeah, bread, hand ground by a
neighbor, yeah, order.
He delivered a loaf that hischildren knew that he loved to
partake in bread making, yeah,flowers.
And so they saw out thisparticular wheat berry and
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bought him like a you know fivegallon bucket, and so, yeah, no
idea what with it all, and heactually had pj and payton help
him him come over and grind somedown.
It was the most delicious breadI've ever had in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, I'm really glad you said that, because I got 25
pounds of this berry.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's very hardy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I milled it myself.
I've made my first loaf ofsourdough and corn.
It's actually still warm.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Why does she kiss to us, enoki, like?
Why does she do like you'recloser, I would be in my car and
like on the way, I know, isn'tthat beautiful?
And there's bread.
I'm done yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
so anyway, the day of the game.
That game was five minutes fromher house.
I'm done, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So I, you know, so anyway, that game was was five
minutes from her house, but Iknew that she was on her farm
adventure.
I was, I was, I was on my farmadventure, so so we didn't stop
that day, but but then I onlywent back to Gainesville and go
to the blackstrap show, and thatwas it.
No, but we will, we'll gettogether and that was it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know, no, but we will.
We'll get together and I andyou know this is a whole process
.
So I, you know, I like the waymy goat cheese tastes, but I
want to work on the texture.
So I'm going to beexperimenting with that, um, I
like the way the ankhorn breadcame out, um, but I'm going to
continue to work on that becauseyou know, the whole sourdough
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bread making thing is a wholeprocess and you, really it takes
a while to kind of get it justright.
But the the idea that I have,honestly, is to make little,
little sourdough bread rolls andsoup and sell bread and soup.
Like I forget to eat mysourdough bread rolls and soup
and sell bread and soup.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Like I forget to eat my sourdough oh my god I can't
wait
Speaker 3 (17:10):
to have.
I can't wait to have potatopeel soup with your ancient
spicy cheeses next to potatopeel soup yeah, I have to make
that, because it's actually likekind of see, I, I did go to
Patti's house and Patti did makethe potato stew.
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I love that you're like admitting this to me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I have to tell her I can't even hold it in.
I try not to you know, I don'tknow.
Like, yeah, I don't want to rubit in, but I did, she did, yeah
, and it was amazing andnostalgic and it made my heart
happy.
I can still taste it right now.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The boys the other day were like we want turkey
burgers, patty's turkey burgers.
And they were like, yeah,everything that Patty would get,
why?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
don't you come down?
You guys stay with me, and thenwe all go to patty's and hang
out with patty for the day andrun around in her woods there oh
yeah, I think that's an awesomeidea.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I have air mattresses I got a couch I've got space
we'll plan it for a weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Things to hang from your trees for the deer.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh yeah, yes, indeed, Absolutely.
So we'll plan that for aweekend because the cheddar is
really close to being ready.
My goat cheese, I think, willbe, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'll perfect.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
October, october for the cheddar, and by then I'll
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have, you know, I'll have, even,I'll develop, I'll have
developed my sourdough umtechniques with, uh, the bread
making and with the soups thatI'd like to offer, and I think I
might want to do that infarmers markets, offer, offer
soup and bread.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know, I just just to you know, yeah, that's gonna
be like such great money maybe,maybe it's um, it's not cheap
um and you'll be feeding soulsagain too, I'll be feeding.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, the whole point is feeding souls, but you know,
I definitely want to make sureI'm not I don't lose money on it
, because I by then I might needit as um a source of you know
given given how things are going, which brings us which brings
us to the the events of the weekand the phone call that enoki
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and I had friday.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So what have you heard about what happened here
in georgia yeah, let's, let'sstart there read the text
messages.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You guys know how I feel about school shootings.
I was in one.
I walked home with him.
They're very, very sensitivesubjects to me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
When was the last time you heard about two people
being involved in something likethat Sandy Hook and Columbine
being involved in in somethinglike that?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
sandy hook, columbine no they said yeah, they said
just one in sandy hook,supposedly yeah, allegedly one
in a sandy hook, columbine.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I was in school for I remember all my friends were in
the goth community so, likeeverybody that I knew was like
getting persecuted and extrapull out of class and all kinds
of stuff you know, and they were, all you know, good kids.
But because of the two of them,but I had this like feeling
like the second because, okay,they announced it.
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When they announced it they saidthere was two shooters, right
and and all I could think islike oh my god, you know, that
hasn't happened since since then.
You know, it's more than 20years ago, you know yeah and uh,
and I'm gonna get all shaky.
I hate that, um, anyway.
So so I, uh, I, I immediatelyhad like all these terrible
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feelings, but sometimes I can,like you know, go a little over
the top with you know, breathethrough it, preparing myself for
you know something that mighthappen or might not, you know.
But all I kept thinking is youknow God, if there's more than
one, you know cause?
Then later on in the day, theyannounced oh no, it was one, it
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was just one guy, you know.
But I felt really weird aboutit, you know, like why would
they say that you?
know kids were hearing things onboth sides of the building.
You know we were hearing thatfrom from the kids.
You know themselves in the, inthe live interviews right there
on the scene, that they allwalked past the child that had a
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firearm less than 10 inchesfrom their body, you know, and
that one of the shooters was wasdead, you know, um, but uh, but
then at the end of the day theywere like no, it was just the
one guy and I felt like it waslike, you know, the male ego,
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inability to admit a wrong oradmit whatever, you know and I
just can't you know thecommitment that they had for
combine, you know.
You know commitment with kids isis way beyond what it is for
adults, because adults havefaced consequence and loss and
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all kinds of things.
You know, but kids don't.
So for them, you know, some do,but for the most part for them
their commitments are fairytale.
You know, they're like thelevel of you know book, like
something you'd read in a bookyou know, you know book, like
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something you'd read in a book,you know.
So all I kept thinking was likegod help with what is going to
happen, you know when, when theother part, takes action again.
You know, learning from whatevermistakes, you know.
And so I was like totallytripping out, you know, the
whole day, on, on, and then thenext day I was calming down a
(23:27):
little bit.
I'm like, all right, maybe youknow, maybe I just picked up
like the just the wrong grid.
You know the wrong energy linehere.
You know, maybe I was wrong,you know.
Well then I'm not going to saywho and how and what because I
don't want to jeopardize anyfamilial situations or job.
(23:49):
You know things, or jobconfidentialities.
But somebody that I know hadtwo people personally call out
to work, two separateindividuals not related to each
other, not related to each other.
Both of their children had beenarrested and they were both
being detained and the FBI wasraiding their home.
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They said 13 other kids wereinvolved and that was what they
could confirm already but thatit was probably more like 25 and
that it was online, online.
They were connecting andplanning A couple of children
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connecting and planning andplotting against multiple
systems across multiple areas.
They shut down three wholedistricts, all right, and then,
after they shut down those three, more were there to follow.
I don't know how it's going toplay out over the weekend, or
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you know, if it feels like theyhave it under control or what,
but they stopped this kid a yearago, interviewed him yeah you
know, detained him, had alleverything, let him go, and then
his dad bought him the ak-47 orwhatever it was, the assault
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rifle you know, which he broughtto the school and then acted on
a year later, at a school thathe had only been at for one full
day he was only at that school,enrolled at that school for one
full day.
So none of these kids that heactually killed or or shot at or
(25:37):
any of that, yeah, anything tohim.
They didn't have theopportunity to even really know
his name at that point, you know.
So the news and the media islike oh, you know he was bullied
and called gay, and all thisbut not by one single individual
there at that school.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So you know I'm a little insulted by the media
reporting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh, he was bullied there.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
He couldn't have been .
That was his first full dateand he only made it until 10
o'clock.
Yep, you know, this had nothingto do with the people at the
school, the teachers, any of theindividuals.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
This was something he had plotted with other people
to do Other young people, yep.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
All of the posts, you know young people, yeah, all of
the posts, you know, at bankseverywhere here in georgia, like
I follow like six differentcounties because you can't
really live in one place here.
Yeah, you know, and that's andthat's the problem.
You know, and that's reallyscary that they've got 13 people
in banks county alone, becausethat's 13 people that have to go
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to eight different counties,all close by, for a different
thing every week.
You know, some are going tochurch for this county, you know
, but they go to school in thiscounty but if you want to go
swimming you gotta go to thatcounty and if you want to go to
something recreational you gotto release county, you know.
(27:06):
So there's no way to reallylive in one place here.
You know, and and they did acton it, you know, they acted on
it.
And if it's on the internet weall know how fast anything grows
on the internet you know for itto grow far enough for one of
their plans to come intofruition how deep did that go?
(27:26):
So the other problem that wehave here is the bus system.
The bus system stops at theprimary school, the elementary
school, the middle school andthen the high school.
We have severe bullying issuesin the area, bullying issues in
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the area.
So all of these kids areclinging to an older kid or
clinging to somebody elsewhenever something's happening
to them, you know, looking forsafety, you know, and are they
finding the good kids or arethey finding the bad kids?
So one week after I pulled myson out of public school here,
the bus that he would have rodehad I ever put him on a bus
which I drove him to schoolevery day, but had I put him on
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a bus it would have been his bushad a gun pulled off of the bus
.
They pulled the bus over,detained the bus and pulled a
child with a gun off of the bus.
All right, now, that wasprimary, elementary, middle and
high school, all exposed to thisgun and this person that they
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all knew.
You know that that not all ofthem had to hate.
You know, not all of themprobably didn't get along with.
Who was he connected with?
Who was he parts of?
You know?
So you have that problem whereit's not just one kid, one
school one, whatever it's thatkid and any kid that that kid
(28:53):
touched.
You know this is likecoronavirus, you, you know, or
what they wanted worse you know,but worse with a higher death
rate with, with people with a,with less of an understanding
about you know about life.
You know people, who, who.
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All they have so far, this farin life, are the stories they're
hearing or what they're reading, or the people that they've
connected with.
You know, like so it'sterrifying.
So I called Patty the other daywhen I found out about that,
because I was following all sixcounties' forums you know where
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everybody the community forums,anybody that's posting anything
about.
Oh, my daughter just texted meand it's a screenshot of her
daughter texting saying they'rewalking down our school.
They were pulling it.
They were pulling it as fast asit was going up, as I was
weeding it, it was coming down,you know.
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And then you had all thesepeople popping on there saying,
oh, banks County's school systemis so great and this, and that
they had huge police presence,like the entire police force,
like the middle school, theprimary school or the high
school and the middle school areclose to each other.
The elementary and the primaryare almost on top of each other,
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each other, the elementary andthe primary are almost on top of
each other.
The the whole parking lot wasfull of police at both, both,
both sites, you know, and at thehigh school too, you know.
And all these parents, you know,are shooting, you know,
screenshots of what their kidsare sending them.
And banks county posts up, oh,you know, no, we're just upping
the police presence.
There's no threat, there's noanything.
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Meanwhile, I know, becauseemployees had to call out from
this place, that there were 13children arrested in banks
county or detained in bankscounty.
You know, on on terroristicthreats.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You know connected and the telegram from their
parents mouth, straight fromtheir parents mouth.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
There's at least 13 of them and they think there's
more.
It was online there's more,because there was, there were
the other arrests too as the dayprogressed or whatever, they
arrest 8 kids in Atlanta, metroAtlanta area.
Then they arrested someone inHall.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Then they arrested um someone in hall.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, they arrested, I think it was two individuals
in hall County, two inGainesville and then and then
they arrested a kid in Rabin.
Rabin was soon to follow.
After I hung up the phone withyou when I went to the show,
Rabin had announced that theyhad arrested somebody for a
terroristic threat.
This is pretty much like everycounty we could drive to, Every
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county we could drive to with alight Meanwhile.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
we've got teachers like Patty.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And then we have teachers like Patty, and we
already know that violence inschool between students and
students and students andteachers is escalating, you know
, and it's escalating withoutreason.
And the other thing about thisis these were blue-collar
camoed-out kids.
Blue-collar camoed-out kids,these were not punky kids, these
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were not gothy kids, these werenot kids that had social groups
or you know, this was youraverage child, your average
child acting out and carryingout these things because of what
(32:34):
?
The internet so it was discord.
I found out later on.
Yeah, discord yeah yeah, discordwas was where the forum was
like I.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I joined discord for pokemon I haven't ever been on
discord since I was the otherday that even like, so you guys
remember when I was doing nikefor a job, doing the supervisor
job for nike um the applicationthat they use like.
We spoke through discordprivately like us, us employees,
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but the what we used throughnike was um, an app called slack
.
Now they're also kids are onthere using that to create these
types of meeting places too.
It's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
People are like oh, tiktok is so bad, you know.
I don't see anything other thaninformation or opinions on
TikTok you know Shit like thatis scary.
You know whatsapp, you knowthings like that.
I had a friend like like I, Iquit, um, we'll get there.
(33:46):
Um.
I had a friend or whatever like, and I was like um, looking to
get some green from him.
You know, this is because I Iquit smoking, um, but I was
looking to get some green drumand he's like oh, um, message me
on this app.
He's like.
He's like this app doesn't haveany tracers or anything.
(34:06):
You know they advertise.
You know that it's not tappableby government and this and that
and I was like okay theyadvertise that they're not
tappable by government.
I'm like, okay, you tell me whatyou want me to tell the
government and I'll message youthere.
You know like.
But what's it called?
(34:27):
You know like.
He was convinced that that waslike some kind of secret thing,
I don't remember telegram signal.
It was signal so it's infinite.
There are, there's so many ofthese yeah, there's so many of
these that the yeah.
How do you monitor?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
how do you?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
monitor them.
You know, you, you, you don'treally you know, but I was
telling patty the other day, youknow.
I think that it's all basedaround the fact.
You know that the thing that Idon't all the time.
You know, empathy is thewordless language we're all
taught to ignore.
But at the end of the day,nothing could be more important
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to the human race.
You know nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, one of the one of the things that, just just to
jump in here, I think she hadto attend to, the little one um,
there apparently was.
The original threat was to fivedifferent high schools and the
statement was, um, apalachee isfirst, um, and so you have, and
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I know Gainesville was, uh, oneof them.
I'm pretty sure Gainesville wasone of them.
So you, you know, and I, I knowteachers who work at Johnson.
You know, because I, I wasthere last year and every, you
know, like all the teachers are,um, completely on edge.
You know, like, what do we,what do we do and how do we
(36:01):
secure ourselves?
And I will say this when I wasin South Florida, because you
know, my, the school that Itaught at was not far from
Parkland, right, and so we didactive shooter drills.
That was really, really serious.
What we have in Georgia isnothing compared to the kind of
what, what we would do inFlorida.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And a terrifying point to that was was in in the
interviews All right, so I'malso.
Same person had another coworker whose child attended that
school or whatever.
They brought them to work thatday and and were able to
actually ask this child.
That was there, all thesequestions, you know, and they
(36:47):
had a lot of questions and theyasked good questions and had
them answered.
But the girl said when theyfirst heard the sirens on the
intercom system, all right, whenthey first heard the sirens on
the intercom system, somebodycame over the PA and told all
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students, return to yourclassrooms.
All students return to yourclassrooms.
All students return to yourclassrooms immediately.
What happens in a lockdown?
How do lockdowns work?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I was pretty sure that you lock down, wherever you
are, whether it's the bathroom,whether it's the library,
whether it's the cafeteria, youlock the doors you hide.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So if you're in the fucking bathroom, your classroom
is locked.
You will be in the hallway,stuck there as a fucking Right
in the open for everything,exactly, exactly, and that was
what happened.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
And the teacher the first teacher that was shot, her
banging on the lockers had notbeen alerted to what was going
on Other than hearing allstudents return to your
classrooms, all right, hadn'theard the siren or anything.
And heard the banging on thelockers in the hallway and went
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out to see what happened themoment she opened the door, the
moment they opened the door.
I don't know if it was the himor her, but the moment they
opened the door, they were shotimmediately.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, as soon as they stepped out into the hallway.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And Patty asked me why would they do something like
that?
That into the hallway, andpatty asked me, why would they
do something like that?
You know well, you know I'veseen a lot of military movies
and stuff and and when standingrock happened, the girl got her
arm blown off with the soundgrenade.
You know I was like why do theyeven have sound grenades?
You know things like that.
So I looked into you know whythey would even have them.
You know, but it's distractivetactic, you know, make a
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commotion so that people comeout to see.
Then they're open, they'reexposed, unlocked and you have
the ability to move on.
Like when, when, when, you know, like when you're playing
basketball and you go to do afake pass and then you run the
other way.
You know it's a distractivetactic to get people, you see,
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to get attention.
But get attention where youwant it, not on yourself, so
that you could move forward withwhat and what you're acting out
.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
and this is the thing , this is the thing that really
struck me, because I think thatthe whole that, that the whole
way that these shootings, theseshootings have evolved, because
it used to be that some supposedcrazy kid who, who had all you
know was just kind of whateverwhacked out, would go into a
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school and just start randomlyshooting, just start randomly
shooting as soon as they got inthere.
There was no strategy, there'sno strategy, there's no, there's
no strategy.
It was reactive it was reactivebut this is strategic.
This is there.
They're actually using plans.
This is strategic.
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This is a network of kids.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
This is a whole thing , it's a whole other thing
thatty's like, how would kidshave even learned something like
that?
And I was like, have you everseen the game call of duty?
No, have you ever seen a childplay call of duty?
Or a grown man?
Grown men play it more thankids do you know.
But but you know they're,they're getting military
(40:37):
training in this game and it'scommunicative.
It's communicative, they arecommunicating and they can help
each other to get better at it.
You know too, as they're playingit you know, like, and then
they're desensitized because thegraphics in it are just as real
as real life.
You know you can hardly tellthe difference between the game
(40:58):
and a video.
If you were watching a videoyou know they're.
They're so intense, so it's notlike.
They're not like seeingsomebody's face explode, you
know, like that's in the game,that's like real life.
They're just sensitized to it.
They're they trained, they'retactical and it's terrifying,
you know.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, and so that's so.
These school shootings haveevolved.
So you have the mental illnessstill there, but now you have
these school shootings evolvinginto something that's strategic,
and that's the thing that ispeople are really disturbed
about, because it's a networkand that's why there have been
(41:39):
so many arrests.
So there is a whole network ofyoung people who are involved in
these threats and perhaps thesestrategies about going into
what you know.
So who's what school is next,and I think that's why so many
people are on edge.
So the three letter agencieswould like us to believe that it
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was just one crazy kid, asalways, but this has.
Everybody has a sense and Ithink this is part of the dread
that you're feeling in Ogie isthat everyone has a sense that
this is a whole other level, awhole level to schools level, a
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whole different level to schools.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
On on, on wednesday or, or, uh, tuesday, one of the
two days, no, wednesday orthursday somebody that I had
known had posted up um georgiafam.
Do we know or have anyoneattending or working at
appalachia High School?
Please call or text.
And I was.
I was really upset, you knowand and and, but still trying to
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talk myself out of how upset Iwas, you know.
So I didn't go as far intoeverything and I didn't know the
things that I was gonna findout, and I hadn't seen yet that
Patty, that same day, somebodyfrom Patty's school was detained
.
But I did find that out lateron in the day before I wrote
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this.
But I wrote to her I saidsending prayers.
I didn't know the victims.
My next door neighbor workedwith one of the teachers last
year at a different school andis heartbroken at the loss of
his friend.
He is currently teaching in adistrict close by and he is
traumatized too.
I also have a friend teachingat a different high school, also
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neighboring this school.
Violence in schools isescalating across the board,
with student teacher acts ofviolence and student student
acts of violence.
It's a scary environment, soterrible.
I only had my kid in publicschool for less than a month and
I could tell that that was howGeorgia school operates Lots of
bullying from students and fromstaff.
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My son was in kindergarten andgot choked out, kicked into a
urinal by an older kid, pushedon the playground and was
bleeding from his face one daywhen I picked him up and not one
staff or student asked if hewas okay.
We homeschool here now and thatwill never change.
Most schools are the onlyoption for the whole district.
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Compared to Florida, they'renot understaffed, most have
classes of 23 with a teacher andan aide in elementary school
and they're 30 to 1 in the uppergrades.
But they completely overlookthe essentials and importance of
safety and empathy and whatthey're there to do, and I
believe that that causes largerproblems down the line.
(44:31):
My heart aches for the familiesthat have lost a loved one.
Georgia does not put theireducation system as a priority
unless it has to do with thecounty's football programs, and
that's true.
You know they'll invest what$300,000 in AstroTurf for the
football field.
But you know we're just goingto go with buttons on our ID
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badge for security and and getrid of the, the security,
because this was not a schoolthat they had removed the
security from, but I believe, umtwo counties over, they fired
all of the school resourceofficers.
There are no school resourceofficers there.
So so I mean, you know theythey don't just devalue safety,
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they're literally workingtowards taking safety away.
Now in lawrenceville they, theyare firearm training the
teachers.
All right, and if you've everseen a video of one of their
training sessions, I have to saythat that is probably the most
terrifying thing I will everever witness in my life.
(45:43):
Okay, because it's little menrunning around with a gun like
this, yeah, okay, holding thisblue gun with a big rubber
ribbon hanging off of it likethis, pointing it at every
children that every child thatruns by, trying to determine
whether or not they're the badguy or not?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Racist teachers who are shooting any POC kid like
absolutely fucking not, If youwatch the video of them firearm
training these teachers?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
it is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
There's one teacher at my kid's high school that's
like so He'll get in the kids'faces and scream hoorah at them.
I'm like somebody give him agun.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
There was a woman who was like we'll protect your
kids here in Lawrenceville,makes this whole video and then
puts the training video in hervideo.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
All right, and she's in the video I actually, you
know, I think, like the, the,the um, the ones who stopped the
this, this particular shooterwas taken alive.
I mean, usually they're they'reshot, but this which is really
strange, well, but I think, Ithink that it was because it was
(46:57):
the school.
It was the school.
So they have designated schoolofficers who are armed I mean,
they have that at my school tooand sometimes you don't even
know who they are.
But there's, like you know,three or four on on campus who
are you know, who are there andarmed and just doing security.
Um, and I think, like if it's aschool-based person who's doing
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it, they are less likely toshoot first at ask questions
later.
It's a student, it's somebodyyoung.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
They want to take them, they want to take them
alive, and so yeah, even thoughhe didn't have any relationship
with them because it was hisfirst full day, he only made it
to 10 o'clock exactly, but hewas still a kid.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Obviously he was a young kid.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
If it was a SWAT team , that wouldn't have it makes me
so ill, it makes me so sick tomy stomach the mental
preparedness that this kid wentthrough to do this, though,
because if you look at any ofhis interviews, he is just just
his dad losing his shit.
(48:03):
The kid stone faced.
Yes, sir, respectful, you know,and like not disrespectful, not
anything.
There was a video that showedsomebody kicking and screaming
as they were putting them into acar, and it was like this is
god's decision and you shouldknow, but I don't think that
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that was the same situation orplace.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I think that that was one of the kids arrested from a
different school, that's evenscarier.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know, is, is, is, is it?
Is it religious?
You know?
Is it like what?
What are these kids motiveshere?
And and what is it that youknow?
Is it like?
What are these kids motiveshere?
And what is it that broughtthem together?
Because they're all reallynormal kids like parents, wise
family wise.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I don't think it's religious.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
I don't know what it was.
Did you see that video with thekid getting loaded into the car
, screaming all that?
I'll have to find that, becausethat was what made me.
Did you see that video with thekid getting loaded into the car
, screaming all that?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I'll have to find that, because that was what made
me wonder you know, what is itthat's tying all these really
normal kids together?
Right, and the thing is, it'slike how much of the news do we
trust?
Speaker 3 (49:10):
None of it.
You know how much of the newslike you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Like, really, how much of the news um do we trust?
Because you know there's always, you know, an agenda ready to
jump in whenever um, these kindsof um things happen.
And uh, enoki, you're right,like we don't the, you know, you
can say, take everyone's guns,but the thing is it's like we
still we have a, we have amental illness issue,
particularly with our youngpeople, and we have no idea how
(49:37):
to and it's?
Speaker 3 (49:38):
it's caused by a complete and total lack of
empathy in the united states.
It's caused by, you know,people.
You know judging people and andpushing people off to the side.
It's caused by our economy.
You know situations and stuffyou know, but really, at the end
of the day, it's the fact thatif you go through something,
you're going to be segregatedinstead of brought in, you know,
(50:03):
and back.
You know, back before you knowwhen things would happen.
You know somebody lost theirhusband or if somebody you know
the community would cometogether.
You know, and they would.
They would involve people youknow in things you know and
still try to make them feelhuman together.
You know, and they would.
They would involve people youknow in things you know and
still try to make them feelhuman.
You know, like there have beenplenty of times where that
(50:23):
hasn't happened.
There's been plenty of timeswhere you're persecuted or
murdered.
You know if you have asituation or something you know.
But if we had that empathy, ifwe thought about how we were
making people feel when we weredoing things, it would be like
really hard for anybody to carryout things like that.
(50:44):
You know, if you cared aboutthe people around you.
This kid didn't even know any ofthese people you know and he
was willing to murder them all.
You know he didn't know any ofthem and he was willing to
murder them all you know, like,like, where you know, there's
two types of people in the world.
I was telling patty the otherday you know, you have the
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people that are like somethinghappened to me and because
that's something happened to me,I'm gonna turn around, I'm
gonna do it to everybody becausefuck that and fuck them, and I,
I, I I'm so against them andand it hurt me and I'm going to
hurt everybody.
And then there's the peoplethat have something happen to
them and and they're like, oh myGod, that hurt me so bad.
(51:29):
I could never do that to anotherhuman being.
I could never feel that way ormake somebody feel that way or
or do that same thing, becauseit was the most painful thing
I'd ever felt.
And those are the two types ofpeople that are in the world and
it's scary, but it's a 50-50like that.
(51:51):
It really just depends on arethey going to be like well, fuck
that, fuck them and fuckeveryone.
Or are they going to be likeman, you know, that was horrible
, like how do we not do thatever again?
Speaker 1 (52:05):
How do?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
we change that.
You know, like you know, I feellike, if you know who was
talking to this person, you knowwho was sharing their opinions
with them, and you know, whatnot?
You watch this kid's video, orwhatever.
He goes hunting with his dadand his dad his dad at first is
(52:27):
pressuring him about killing adeer.
Is he going to do it, orwhatever?
Then he does.
He makes him go over to it andhe smears the blood on his face
from this deer.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Is this the?
Speaker 3 (52:41):
same kid, the same kid.
No, this is the same kid thatjust shot all these other kids
at Appalachian high schoolbecause you know that that's
from a movie yeah, yeah, I sawthat.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I saw that in a movie but here's the interesting
thing, see it's it's really allabout perspective, because when
I, when I saw that scene in thisparticular movie, it's really
all about perspective, becausewhen I, when I saw that scene in
this particular movie, it wasreally about honoring the life
of of that, of that deer, andbeing grateful for it was a
whole other scene that was aboutthe way that they did the life
(53:20):
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, the way that they did this in the video, the
father and the kid, it was, likeyou know, smear the blood of
your enemy across your face.
You know?
No, no sorrow, no honor, no,none of that you know, they're
like oh look, I see white,uh-huh, you know, laughing,
(53:41):
joking, laughing joking, and thekid's face is covered in blood.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, I think that my sense is that we have another
incident like this and our highschools will probably go remote,
like I honestly do think, likewe are on the edge of making
high schools go remote becauseyoung, because you know, we
(54:14):
can't guarantee the safety ofour young people.
And I think there are a lot ofparents who are saying, yeah,
it's going to be hard, but I'mgoing to homeschool because I
can't guarantee that the schoolcannot guarantee the safety of
my, of my child or children, soI'm going to pull them out.
And I honestly think that we'rekind of on the edge of seeing
(54:38):
kind of the collapse of oureducational system, Because,
yeah, I mean, and I think it is,I think it's because we pay, we
pray, we vote, we're proactive,we get involved, we volunteer
at the schools you know stillfalling, give our input and
there's nothing that we can doto change it.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
And so, like my situation, you know, I pulled my
son out.
I said no, no, we're not goingto participate if you can't
guarantee his safety here atschool, right in kindergarten,
in his first less than a month,you know.
Then then then you can't beresponsible for my kids, right?
I'm going to be responsible formy kid I'm going to make sure
(55:17):
that he's at home safe.
I'm going to do whatever I haveto do to do that.
You know and I have a reallyaffordable homeschool program.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
It's only like 39 a month and they give discounts
for multiple kids right, it'shard here, which is cheaper,
there's only one school, oneumbrella school that I can pull
the boys out of, it's where Iput them and when we were at um
st jude's, um, there's only oneschool that is a not religious
based homeschool.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
So, and you know, curriculum included and it's
mine has a bible class, but youdon't have to.
You know it's not.
It's not a required thing.
So you build the curriculum,pick which of the classes you
want to do, or whatever um, but,but.
But it's accredited and it's anationwide um school too.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
It's called me academy you always have k
through 12.
You know they send boxes toyour house.
It has like science,experiments and books, like
patty was saying to me the otherday.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
That that's still, you know, still kind of public
school and that's still, youknow, virtual web based.
You know that they're in yourhome just as much as you're in
in their videos, you know likeyou're yeah, you're still.
You know all of that and that'swhy I went when I put him in
(56:40):
school, it was.
It was like 150 dollars for thatone month worth of lunch,
because the first lunch isn'treally enough.
You know that they give freelunches here in Georgia, but
it's not enough sustenance foryour kid really, you know.
So between the lunch, thesnacks, the extracurricular
(57:01):
things, the recreational thingsand the gas to drive him back
and forth, it was like 150 amonth, like you know.
You take all that away it's 39 amonth and they go up through
high school and they'reaccredited and you pick what
classes you're teaching them.
It does have a bible class, butyou don't have to.
(57:22):
It's an elective it's not arequired class they have their
core curriculum.
They organize it all for you.
You're not really having to gothrough and and organize each
subject you know in in a waythat that is hard.
They wreck, they record it allfor you.
You don't have to keep recordbecause it's all there.
(57:45):
You just have to make sure thathe's doing it.
That's it.
Yeah, you know, and it's areally, instead of being like
work on trails and an app, likemost of the homeschools were or
whatever, this is a really nice,clean, good, functioning, easy
to work with platform you know Imean so.
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So it saved me money, it savedme time, it put the
responsibility of my kid in myown hands, you know, and it was
cheaper than putting them in inpublic school the other reason I
went with, the choice I wentwith, was it was the only way
that I didn't have to have themdo standardized testing.
There's no standardized testing.
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With this one, you can opt todo that with your state, but
it's not required.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Unless it's these homeschools here, it is
absolutely required.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
And their high school platforms they come into the
school twice a year to dostandardized testing absolutely
not yeah and their, their highschool platform, I believe,
provides you with a high schooldiploma at the end of completion
.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
I mean, it was like the coolest thing ever yeah, no,
I, I like that, and so one ofthe like 200 people join the
thechool forums and so.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
I've been doing talking about it.
Yeah all week long.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, I mean, because I think you're going to see
that you're going to see kind ofan exodus out of the, out of
the schools, and and I think,like just what you were talking
about, like in terms of like,where has this sense of, you
know, empathy or community going?
I think about, like the woman,the woman I met over over the
weekend who's like, if I needeggs, I know somebody who has
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eggs.
We are like we have become thislittle community that looks
after each other, so we don'thave to worry about any of us
going hungry or if there's aproblem or if there's an issue
on anybody, any of us goinghungry or if there's a problem
or if there's an issue onanybody, there's always somebody
who can help.
And so I I hear that and Ithink that's that is also
happening parallel to all ofthis.
(59:54):
You know, disintegration isthat you've got these little
self contained, you knowsustainable little communities
of people coming together whocare about each other and take
care of each other.
Um, and I think that that'sgoing to happen more and more on
local, on local levels, andit's just kind of finding, uh,
(01:00:17):
those, you know those placeswhere, um, where people are
coming together and creatingtheir own local community.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I honestly Home school groups, have a co-op
groups or whatever, which are,like you know, 10 kids, you know
that are all homeschooled athome and come together for you
know two or three days in theweek or whatever, for an
extracurricular activity orwhatever Field trips or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, we go up to the your kid is still getting
some sort of of you knowimmunocom.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I'm not saying isolate from the world.
I'm saying remove yourself fromthe system that is killing our
children.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, at this point it's, it's you know, and, and
what's going to be left at theschool system is going to be
terrifying after these exodus,I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Now that they're in high school.
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, well, it's going to be the only you know,
the only kids that are reallygoing to be left there are going
to be the kids that peopledidn't want to try, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Or they just don't have any other option.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
You know they don't, yeah, they don't, they don't
have that are available becauseour parents, yeah, aren't around
, or you know they.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
You know they get it in their head.
You know that there's nothingthat they could do, you know.
But it is what it is, but it'llbe what you make it.
You know you can always dosomething about something, you
know and and for high schoolkids.
It is hard, you know, but atthe same time, you know, so was
covid.
Yeah, and we all made itthrough that you know, so was
(01:01:54):
covid, and we all survived.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That you know mostly and mostly yeah, you know,
mostly, mostly, I don't know.
We people didn't exactly ummostly survive the vaccine, but
that's a whole issue um well, Ilost my grandpa yeah, exactly,
um, but uh, what was I gonna say?
(01:02:18):
I forgot?
Oh, my goodness, we're about atthe hour mark and do you guys
want to pull a card real quickbefore we end?
Sure, yep, so we're going topull a card, you know, like
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we've done in the past, and Ithink, like this is really.
These are things that I think awhole lot of people are
thinking about and talking aboutand trying to figure out.
I think that the running themeacross so many areas is how do
we protect our children?
Because, you know, our childrenare kind of you know, kind of
(01:03:08):
no pun intended, but like underthe gun in a lot of ways,
extremely vulnerable, yes,extremely vulnerable, extremely
vulnerable in terms of theirhealth, you know, in terms of
like the oh.
So we have the temple.
All right, bring it in, bringit in, bring it in.
So we've got the temple forinspiration for the coming weeks
(01:03:29):
.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So the temple, the sanctuary, the shrine, the altar
.
When we think of the temple, weoften envision an architectural
structure and a far-off land.
We're quick to distanceourselves from the sacred,
assuming we must have spent mucheffort in order to arrive there
(01:03:55):
.
Yet the temple is a universaland omnipresent energy,
accessible in the highest andlowest riches and forest places.
Visiting the temple might be assimple as stepping into the
dappled light of the forestslowly and sinuously, kissing a
(01:04:18):
lover, or closing your eyes totravel inward.
This part is a call toreexamine what we pay homage to
and what we reject.
What do we spend our timeworshiping?
Phone Money, material goods?
What barriers do we drawbetween ourselves and the sacred
?
Perhaps there is room on ouraltar for something new.
(01:04:42):
What can we offer to theheavens?
Heavens, though.
Indeed, the temple travels withus.
This part is interwoven, uh,with a pilgrim, so essentially
it's part of a spiritual journey.
Um, the ancient yogis saw thebody as the temple right, so we
(01:05:05):
were never separated from it.
And this makes me think of thekids and that if we were
teaching them how to express ourown divinity and understand
(01:05:25):
overstand that our body is atemple right, there would be a
lot less of this.
So there is a homework for thiscard, and it is.
It's almost like a littlehomeschool game.
It says build a shrine withonly found materials, only found
(01:05:50):
materials.
So this week, I urge you all tofind things from the earth that
you can add to your ownpersonal shrine.
But, moreover, the temple forme signifies exactly what Anokhi
said, and that's bringing ithome.
It starts at home.
(01:06:10):
We have to love these kids, man.
We have to love our kids,friends.
We have to love our students.
We've got to show these kidslove, man.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
It's so important well, I love you guys, I love
you guys too, the best sundayever thank you, I'm gonna keep
baking that bread and we'll.
We'll plan for um, don't stoptrying being together, getting
together sometime this fall I'mgonna randomly stop and eat your
(01:06:45):
bread one day yes, that wouldbe lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
My bandmate, my band, my bandmate is in murrayville
okay, a little bit north, alittle bit further than me yeah,
yeah, so I gotta pass you twicewell, give me a heads up.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Give me a text you better text.
Yeah, have a beautiful day.
You guys Love you.
Have a beautiful day.
Have a beautiful day, love you.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Good morning.
Good morning.
This is Patty, with Patty TalksToo Much and we are live with
my dear friends Anoki and Taylor.
It's been yeah, it's been acouple of weeks, so it's amazing
how much happens in our livesand in the world in just a
(00:30):
couple of weeks, right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I lost my familiar.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
My cat.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh no, no, you have.
Didn't you have more than onecat?
Didn't you have more than onecat Did?
You have more than one cat,just one cat.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
One cat.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What was her name?
Shelly.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What happened?
It was about 10.
But I don't really know.
We went camping.
We came back I couldn't findher.
I thought, well, she'll comeback.
Days passed and then I began topick up a scent in the
neighborhood across the street.
(01:14):
My sweet, sweet friend Michellesat with me and held space.
I got out divining rods andasked them.
I asked spirit to just juststeer me in the right direction.
(01:35):
We asked the neighborhood catto show us where she was.
We ask our dog on a leash,after he smelled her blanket, to
show us where she was.
And they all went to the sameplace and it was house on the
corner.
So I had to knock on the doorand say, hey, I know this is
really crazy, but, um, I thinkthat my cat might be in your
(01:57):
basement or under your house,because I can, can smell it
anyways.
Um, michelle's boyfriend, john,and I suited up and we climbed
20 feet through the mosttraumatic crawl space I have
ever encountered and werecovered my cat because it was
(02:21):
her Um, and we were able to havea ceremony for her um with the
boys, which is such a blessing,because with cats you don't
always get to do that, you know.
And now she's, she's alwayswith us, she's in the yard, but
(02:41):
I have to tell you that it'salmost, it's this very sad
feeling and I'm going to missher terribly.
I miss her.
I've already, I've already seenher like sitting on the porch
in a chair and like, oh my God,she's not there, but she was
there.
So I know she's still around me,but I feel like my guard is
down spiritually.
Or, like you know, cats dothings for you that you don't
(03:06):
realize they yeah, they're,they're protective.
So protective, yeah, and so Ifeel like my words have been
like taken down.
I hate to say that well that'll.
Yeah, I mean lots lots hashappened um, in the last few
(03:27):
weeks here.
So enoki started a metal band.
Yeah man, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, I didn't start it, I just joined yeah I'm just
joining you, she joined themusic at this point I I felt, I
felt bad the other day.
I was like at this point, likeI will literally sing along to
anything other than polka, justto play out yeah, just that's
all genres of polka.
I don't I don't work.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Last night at work last night, uh, the guys in the
kitchen were like taylor.
Um, a thuggish, ruggish bonecame on and they were like
taylor hit the tasha partbecause now they all know that I
can hit a note.
So I'm like it's so funny.
I mean like obviously I can'tright now, but it was great.
I love singing too.
I miss it very much yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I felt like like I don't know, like just way more
myself, you know, just beingable to create stuff, you know
unique avenue for you, becausethat's well you know it's really
funny.
I said, so, I have, I have, I.
I have this like joke.
You know, I've always had thisjoke that I was like the random
(04:35):
skittle dropped in a box of darkgoth chocolate you know,
because, like literally, all myfriends in high school were like
all the all the goth kids, youknow, and I'm wearing rainbow
pants and tie-dye shirt and youknow I literally was like the
Skittle in the box of dark gothchocolate.
(04:58):
But so I sent it to all mymetalhead friends and stuff, all
my metalhead friends and stuff,and they were like, wow, inoki,
you know we couldn't put you toa genre ever, you know, but we
kind of feel like maybe thismight be your thing.
You know, my friend Ash waslike if you don't stick with
(05:19):
this band.
Your screams are so good to bewasted, you know like, like do
something else with it becauseit was awesome but uh, but so it
felt really good or whatever.
I do have like a chestinfection, not from screaming
(05:40):
but from conquering the oldhouse and stuff and doing some
stuff there and pulling somethings apart.
So that was probably a poordecision to do the week that I
joined the band, but but itneeded to be done and I had to
do it, so oh, that's awesome, Ilove it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I went out with them on Friday night and I will tell
you, it was like I don't know,like I know I connect with
people, you know, but like Ifelt like I had known them for a
decade.
Those connections are happeningright now a lot them, their
(06:24):
partners, their kids.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I just feel great and they want to keep the kids
involved.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, so I've been so displaced up here Even if we're
not playing, we got along sowell that I would love to hang
out with them all the time.
Anyway, they're really cool.
I went to this place calledBlackstrap in Gainesville.
And it was like a little rockbar, like cool little venue.
(06:56):
Kind of reminded me of the Oddin Asheville, but less Odd, so
it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I love that, I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, and it was great because I was completely
panicking about, like, a lot ofthings you know, which I'm sure
we'll get into and I mean I'lllet patty, drop that um, since,
uh it's, it's up your alley moreyeah, yeah, unfortunately, but
you know before we get into someof the darker things that have
happened recently.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Um, speaking about connecting with community,
because you know I've been kindof, you know, out out here like
you know well yeah but like whoam I going to connect with?
you know, whatever.
And what's interesting is atwork.
It's bizarre because, you know,I'll just say briefly we did
(07:51):
this weird thing this week thatI didn't want to do and I've
never had to do at any otherschool, and that is that the
head of the department decidedthat when we have a PLC meeting,
like when we have adepartment-wide meeting, that
one of the sections of thedepartment decided that when we
have a PLC meeting, like when wehave a department wide meeting,
that one of the sections of thedepartment have to do
presentations about what they'redoing successfully in class and
(08:12):
each one of us have to get upthere and say I do this and this
really works for me.
And I was like fuck, a horseand pony show for real.
And you know how.
I feel about that it's like Idon't, don't want, you know, I
just do my thing in theclassroom.
I don't feel like puttingtogether some whole presentation
to get brownie points for otherfrom other teachers and all
this bullshit, because I don'teven believe in all that shit.
(08:34):
So my, when, the when the umenglish department, uh chair,
well, the head of, uh, americanlit, said, hey, so what do you
want to do?
I said said exit tickets.
And she was like okay, andbecause I don't know if you know
what exit tickets are, butthey're like the little thing
you do the last two minutes ofclass where the kids kind of
(08:57):
write something or whatever.
But I have this whole thingthat I do with exit tickets.
Anyway, she it wasn't like oh, Ido this really great thing with
group interaction, these groups, and we get all this stuff, you
know, and all this likeeducational lingo that I hate,
you know.
So I didn't, I wasn't going todo that.
(09:18):
So I got up and said well, I'mgoing to make a case for exit
tickets, you know, like the twominutes of the last part of the
day.
Here are my little exit tickets.
They're all in color.
This, here's the board, here'sa picture, and blah, blah, blah
and whatever.
And I just feel like and I evensaid this is the low tech, like
you can count on me for the lowtech stuff, because I'm not
(09:38):
going to get up there and say,oh, this is how I use this app,
or this is how I use AI, or thisis how I do it.
You know, I'm like no, just youknow, I just I'm not, I'm not
into it and I'm not into thehorse and pony show.
So, at any rate, I just got upthere and did my thing.
But what's interesting is I hadto really deal with my own ego,
(09:59):
because I knew that people werelooking at me like she's
probably too old to be in aclassroom right now she's doing
exit tickets.
Like they were looking at melike what, like there was
nothing technical about what Iwas doing.
It was all just old fashionedpracticing sentence writing on
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exit tickets about the topic ofthe day and whatever you have a
lot of things that you couldhave done.
You know the whole horse andpony show I could have, but I
didn't.
I don't want to do that shit.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't want to because you're not a low-tech
teacher, and you're not too oldto be in a classroom and you
have incorporated common colorsand all kinds of things into
your classroom.
Yeah, and you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But at this point it's kind of like my whole
teaching career.
I feel like, yeah, my wholeteaching career I haven't really
bought into the educationalsystem.
And so now, at the very tailend of my teaching career, it's
like, yeah, this, theeducational system is fucked and
(11:09):
I'm just here making connectionwith students and I don't
really give a shit about any youknow, I mean like there's, just
like we know how I feel aboutit.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly so just make your
beautiful cheeses and breadsRight, and so speaking right,
Speaking of which.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So anyway, it's kind of like I know I'm I'm making
some connections at work, but Iam the oldest one in the
department and I do think thatthere's an ageist thing that
goes on and I do think that, um,you know, I don't, I, you know,
it's not like I'm not going tobe making friends at Gainesville
.
Let's just put it that way.
(11:46):
I'm not going to be makingthese friends that I hang out
with at Gainesville, becausethey're all teachers who are
totally invested in the system.
They speak a particular lingoand I don't speak that language.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't want to, except for the one that you went
out to the thing.
So we have a box instead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The community is one person, you know what I mean,
but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
We'll see, because she's really invested in, like
how yeah, she's really investedin you know the kind of like
being part of that.
She's going to be around, likeshe wants to be in the system
for another 10 years and I'mtaking it one year at a time.
It's like I don't know if I'mgoing to be here next year
Probably not.
But at any rate, on the topicthough, I mean I went all the
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way around that to mentionsomething about community
connection, and so I had thisreally awesome connection
yesterday, because I went out toa goat farm in Dawsonville and
I got my first gallon of rawmilk and I made my first thing
(12:53):
of goat cheese milk.
That was that like literallywas harvested like that day.
So yesterday morning he milkedher goat and yesterday afternoon
I made goat cheese with it.
So I'm really thrilled aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And that connection.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
we were like, you know, we, we were really on the
same page.
So she's a woman who she'sshe's making goat cheese.
She goes to the local farmer'smarket.
She said, listen, there arefolks at the local, local
farmer's market who do this andthat you would really like them.
It's really a great communityof people and so why don't you
come out next Saturday and meetsome of the people at the
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farmer's market out here?
And I was like I'm there, I'mtotally, I'm totally there, so
I'm going to go out out.
Uh, you know, it's not a hugefarmer's market.
I'm used to like Delrayfarmer's market down in Florida,
which is huge but yeah.
No, it's awesome though, yeah,so I mean, our space is nicer
(13:56):
yeah, no, I agree, so it's justthe way that it's when I go pet
the goat and I oh yeah, no,that's what I was doing
yesterday.
I was petting the goats.
I met the goats, I know theirnames and it's really it was.
It was awesome.
So I met the goats.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You get to connect with them too.
Yeah, yeah it was awesome andthank them for their cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And I also wanted to show you guys one other thing.
So you know how I been makingsourdough bread, or like
starting to make sourdough bread.
Um, I have wanted to work witha um, with a flour that's called
ancorn and it's wheat, that'sthe original wheat.
This is like.
(14:37):
This is these wheat berries arelike the same as they were like
thousands of years ago.
So most of the wheat we get hasbeen kind of changed over the
years.
But, and corn, that's e I n k?
O?
R?
N.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I've had this bread, yeah, bread, hand ground by a
neighbor, yeah, order.
He delivered a loaf that hischildren knew that he loved to
partake in bread making, yeah,flowers.
And so they saw out thisparticular wheat berry and
(15:11):
bought him like a you know fivegallon bucket, and so, yeah, no
idea what with it all, and heactually had pj and payton help
him him come over and grind somedown.
It was the most delicious breadI've ever had in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, I'm really glad you said that, because I got 25
pounds of this berry.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's very hardy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I milled it myself.
I've made my first loaf ofsourdough and corn.
It's actually still warm.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Why does she kiss to us, enoki, like?
Why does she do like you'recloser, I would be in my car and
like on the way, I know, isn'tthat beautiful?
And there's bread.
I'm done yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
so anyway, the day of the game.
That game was five minutes fromher house.
I'm done, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So I, you know, so anyway, that game was was five
minutes from her house, but Iknew that she was on her farm
adventure.
I was, I was, I was on my farmadventure, so so we didn't stop
that day, but but then I onlywent back to Gainesville and go
to the blackstrap show, and thatwas it.
No, but we will, we'll gettogether and that was it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know, no, but we will.
We'll get together and I andyou know this is a whole process
.
So I, you know, I like the waymy goat cheese tastes, but I
want to work on the texture.
So I'm going to beexperimenting with that, um, I
like the way the ankhorn breadcame out, um, but I'm going to
continue to work on that becauseyou know, the whole sourdough
(16:46):
bread making thing is a wholeprocess and you, really it takes
a while to kind of get it justright.
But the the idea that I have,honestly, is to make little,
little sourdough bread rolls andsoup and sell bread and soup.
Like I forget to eat mysourdough bread rolls and soup
and sell bread and soup.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Like I forget to eat my sourdough oh my god I can't
wait
Speaker 3 (17:10):
to have.
I can't wait to have potatopeel soup with your ancient
spicy cheeses next to potatopeel soup yeah, I have to make
that, because it's actually likekind of see, I, I did go to
Patti's house and Patti did makethe potato stew.
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I love that you're like admitting this to me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I have to tell her I can't even hold it in.
I try not to you know, I don'tknow.
Like, yeah, I don't want to rubit in, but I did, she did, yeah
, and it was amazing andnostalgic and it made my heart
happy.
I can still taste it right now.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The boys the other day were like we want turkey
burgers, patty's turkey burgers.
And they were like, yeah,everything that Patty would get,
why?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
don't you come down?
You guys stay with me, and thenwe all go to patty's and hang
out with patty for the day andrun around in her woods there oh
yeah, I think that's an awesomeidea.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I have air mattresses I got a couch I've got space
we'll plan it for a weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Things to hang from your trees for the deer.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh yeah, yes, indeed, Absolutely.
So we'll plan that for aweekend because the cheddar is
really close to being ready.
My goat cheese, I think, willbe, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'll perfect.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
October, october for the cheddar, and by then I'll
(19:08):
have, you know, I'll have, even,I'll develop, I'll have
developed my sourdough umtechniques with, uh, the bread
making and with the soups thatI'd like to offer, and I think I
might want to do that infarmers markets, offer, offer
soup and bread.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know, I just just to you know, yeah, that's gonna
be like such great money maybe,maybe it's um, it's not cheap
um and you'll be feeding soulsagain too, I'll be feeding.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, the whole point is feeding souls, but you know,
I definitely want to make sureI'm not I don't lose money on it
, because I by then I might needit as um a source of you know
given given how things are going, which brings us which brings
us to the the events of the weekand the phone call that enoki
(19:52):
and I had friday.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So what have you heard about what happened here
in georgia yeah, let's, let'sstart there read the text
messages.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You guys know how I feel about school shootings.
I was in one.
I walked home with him.
They're very, very sensitivesubjects to me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
When was the last time you heard about two people
being involved in something likethat Sandy Hook and Columbine
being involved in in somethinglike that?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
sandy hook, columbine no they said yeah, they said
just one in sandy hook,supposedly yeah, allegedly one
in a sandy hook, columbine.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I was in school for I remember all my friends were in
the goth community so, likeeverybody that I knew was like
getting persecuted and extrapull out of class and all kinds
of stuff you know, and they were, all you know, good kids.
But because of the two of them,but I had this like feeling
like the second because, okay,they announced it.
(20:57):
When they announced it they saidthere was two shooters, right
and and all I could think islike oh my god, you know, that
hasn't happened since since then.
You know, it's more than 20years ago, you know yeah and uh,
and I'm gonna get all shaky.
I hate that, um, anyway.
So so I, uh, I, I immediatelyhad like all these terrible
(21:22):
feelings, but sometimes I can,like you know, go a little over
the top with you know, breathethrough it, preparing myself for
you know something that mighthappen or might not, you know.
But all I kept thinking is youknow God, if there's more than
one, you know cause?
Then later on in the day, theyannounced oh no, it was one, it
(21:43):
was just one guy, you know.
But I felt really weird aboutit, you know, like why would
they say that you?
know kids were hearing things onboth sides of the building.
You know we were hearing thatfrom from the kids.
You know themselves in the, inthe live interviews right there
on the scene, that they allwalked past the child that had a
(22:03):
firearm less than 10 inchesfrom their body, you know, and
that one of the shooters was wasdead, you know, um, but uh, but
then at the end of the day theywere like no, it was just the
one guy and I felt like it waslike, you know, the male ego,
(22:25):
inability to admit a wrong oradmit whatever, you know and I
just can't you know thecommitment that they had for
combine, you know.
You know commitment with kids isis way beyond what it is for
adults, because adults havefaced consequence and loss and
(22:46):
all kinds of things.
You know, but kids don't.
So for them, you know, some do,but for the most part for them
their commitments are fairytale.
You know, they're like thelevel of you know book, like
something you'd read in a bookyou know, you know book, like
(23:06):
something you'd read in a book,you know.
So all I kept thinking was likegod help with what is going to
happen, you know when, when theother part, takes action again.
You know, learning from whatevermistakes, you know.
And so I was like totallytripping out, you know, the
whole day, on, on, and then thenext day I was calming down a
(23:27):
little bit.
I'm like, all right, maybe youknow, maybe I just picked up
like the just the wrong grid.
You know the wrong energy linehere.
You know, maybe I was wrong,you know.
Well then I'm not going to saywho and how and what because I
don't want to jeopardize anyfamilial situations or job.
(23:49):
You know things, or jobconfidentialities.
But somebody that I know hadtwo people personally call out
to work, two separateindividuals not related to each
other, not related to each other.
Both of their children had beenarrested and they were both
being detained and the FBI wasraiding their home.
(24:09):
They said 13 other kids wereinvolved and that was what they
could confirm already but thatit was probably more like 25 and
that it was online, online.
They were connecting andplanning A couple of children
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connecting and planning andplotting against multiple
systems across multiple areas.
They shut down three wholedistricts, all right, and then,
after they shut down those three, more were there to follow.
I don't know how it's going toplay out over the weekend, or
(24:55):
you know, if it feels like theyhave it under control or what,
but they stopped this kid a yearago, interviewed him yeah you
know, detained him, had alleverything, let him go, and then
his dad bought him the ak-47 orwhatever it was, the assault
(25:15):
rifle you know, which he broughtto the school and then acted on
a year later, at a school thathe had only been at for one full
day he was only at that school,enrolled at that school for one
full day.
So none of these kids that heactually killed or or shot at or
(25:37):
any of that, yeah, anything tohim.
They didn't have theopportunity to even really know
his name at that point, you know.
So the news and the media islike oh, you know he was bullied
and called gay, and all thisbut not by one single individual
there at that school.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So you know I'm a little insulted by the media
reporting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh, he was bullied there.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
He couldn't have been .
That was his first full dateand he only made it until 10
o'clock.
Yep, you know, this had nothingto do with the people at the
school, the teachers, any of theindividuals.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
This was something he had plotted with other people
to do Other young people, yep.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
All of the posts, you know young people, yeah, all of
the posts, you know, at bankseverywhere here in georgia, like
I follow like six differentcounties because you can't
really live in one place here.
Yeah, you know, and that's andthat's the problem.
You know, and that's reallyscary that they've got 13 people
in banks county alone, becausethat's 13 people that have to go
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to eight different counties,all close by, for a different
thing every week.
You know, some are going tochurch for this county, you know
, but they go to school in thiscounty but if you want to go
swimming you gotta go to thatcounty and if you want to go to
something recreational you gotto release county, you know.
(27:06):
So there's no way to reallylive in one place here.
You know, and and they did acton it, you know, they acted on
it.
And if it's on the internet weall know how fast anything grows
on the internet you know for itto grow far enough for one of
their plans to come intofruition how deep did that go?
(27:26):
So the other problem that wehave here is the bus system.
The bus system stops at theprimary school, the elementary
school, the middle school andthen the high school.
We have severe bullying issuesin the area, bullying issues in
(27:47):
the area.
So all of these kids areclinging to an older kid or
clinging to somebody elsewhenever something's happening
to them, you know, looking forsafety, you know, and are they
finding the good kids or arethey finding the bad kids?
So one week after I pulled myson out of public school here,
the bus that he would have rodehad I ever put him on a bus
which I drove him to schoolevery day, but had I put him on
(28:08):
a bus it would have been his bushad a gun pulled off of the bus
.
They pulled the bus over,detained the bus and pulled a
child with a gun off of the bus.
All right, now, that wasprimary, elementary, middle and
high school, all exposed to thisgun and this person that they
(28:29):
all knew.
You know that that not all ofthem had to hate.
You know, not all of themprobably didn't get along with.
Who was he connected with?
Who was he parts of?
You know?
So you have that problem whereit's not just one kid, one
school one, whatever it's thatkid and any kid that that kid
(28:53):
touched.
You know this is likecoronavirus, you, you know, or
what they wanted worse you know,but worse with a higher death
rate with, with people with a,with less of an understanding
about you know about life.
You know people, who, who.
(29:13):
All they have so far, this farin life, are the stories they're
hearing or what they're reading, or the people that they've
connected with.
You know, like so it'sterrifying.
So I called Patty the other daywhen I found out about that,
because I was following all sixcounties' forums you know where
(29:33):
everybody the community forums,anybody that's posting anything
about.
Oh, my daughter just texted meand it's a screenshot of her
daughter texting saying they'rewalking down our school.
They were pulling it.
They were pulling it as fast asit was going up, as I was
weeding it, it was coming down,you know.
(29:54):
And then you had all thesepeople popping on there saying,
oh, banks County's school systemis so great and this, and that
they had huge police presence,like the entire police force,
like the middle school, theprimary school or the high
school and the middle school areclose to each other.
The elementary and the primaryare almost on top of each other,
(30:16):
each other, the elementary andthe primary are almost on top of
each other.
The the whole parking lot wasfull of police at both, both,
both sites, you know, and at thehigh school too, you know.
And all these parents, you know,are shooting, you know,
screenshots of what their kidsare sending them.
And banks county posts up, oh,you know, no, we're just upping
the police presence.
There's no threat, there's noanything.
(30:37):
Meanwhile, I know, becauseemployees had to call out from
this place, that there were 13children arrested in banks
county or detained in bankscounty.
You know, on on terroristicthreats.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You know connected and the telegram from their
parents mouth, straight fromtheir parents mouth.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
There's at least 13 of them and they think there's
more.
It was online there's more,because there was, there were
the other arrests too as the dayprogressed or whatever, they
arrest 8 kids in Atlanta, metroAtlanta area.
Then they arrested someone inHall.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Then they arrested um someone in hall.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, they arrested, I think it was two individuals
in hall County, two inGainesville and then and then
they arrested a kid in Rabin.
Rabin was soon to follow.
After I hung up the phone withyou when I went to the show,
Rabin had announced that theyhad arrested somebody for a
terroristic threat.
This is pretty much like everycounty we could drive to, Every
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county we could drive to with alight Meanwhile.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
we've got teachers like Patty.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And then we have teachers like Patty, and we
already know that violence inschool between students and
students and students andteachers is escalating, you know
, and it's escalating withoutreason.
And the other thing about thisis these were blue-collar
camoed-out kids.
Blue-collar camoed-out kids,these were not punky kids, these
(32:14):
were not gothy kids, these werenot kids that had social groups
or you know, this was youraverage child, your average
child acting out and carryingout these things because of what
(32:34):
?
The internet so it was discord.
I found out later on.
Yeah, discord yeah yeah, discordwas was where the forum was
like I.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I joined discord for pokemon I haven't ever been on
discord since I was the otherday that even like, so you guys
remember when I was doing nikefor a job, doing the supervisor
job for nike um the applicationthat they use like.
We spoke through discordprivately like us, us employees,
(33:05):
but the what we used throughnike was um, an app called slack
.
Now they're also kids are onthere using that to create these
types of meeting places too.
It's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
People are like oh, tiktok is so bad, you know.
I don't see anything other thaninformation or opinions on
TikTok you know Shit like thatis scary.
You know whatsapp, you knowthings like that.
I had a friend like like I, Iquit, um, we'll get there.
(33:46):
Um.
I had a friend or whatever like, and I was like um, looking to
get some green from him.
You know, this is because I Iquit smoking, um, but I was
looking to get some green drumand he's like oh, um, message me
on this app.
He's like.
He's like this app doesn't haveany tracers or anything.
(34:06):
You know they advertise.
You know that it's not tappableby government and this and that
and I was like okay theyadvertise that they're not
tappable by government.
I'm like, okay, you tell me whatyou want me to tell the
government and I'll message youthere.
You know like.
But what's it called?
(34:27):
You know like.
He was convinced that that waslike some kind of secret thing,
I don't remember telegram signal.
It was signal so it's infinite.
There are, there's so many ofthese yeah, there's so many of
these that the yeah.
How do you monitor?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
how do you?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
monitor them.
You know, you, you, you don'treally you know, but I was
telling patty the other day, youknow.
I think that it's all basedaround the fact.
You know that the thing that Idon't all the time.
You know, empathy is thewordless language we're all
taught to ignore.
But at the end of the day,nothing could be more important
(35:08):
to the human race.
You know nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, one of the one of the things that, just just to
jump in here, I think she hadto attend to, the little one um,
there apparently was.
The original threat was to fivedifferent high schools and the
statement was, um, apalachee isfirst, um, and so you have, and
(35:38):
I know Gainesville was, uh, oneof them.
I'm pretty sure Gainesville wasone of them.
So you, you know, and I, I knowteachers who work at Johnson.
You know, because I, I wasthere last year and every, you
know, like all the teachers are,um, completely on edge.
You know, like, what do we,what do we do and how do we
(36:01):
secure ourselves?
And I will say this when I wasin South Florida, because you
know, my, the school that Itaught at was not far from
Parkland, right, and so we didactive shooter drills.
That was really, really serious.
What we have in Georgia isnothing compared to the kind of
what, what we would do inFlorida.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And a terrifying point to that was was in in the
interviews All right, so I'malso.
Same person had another coworker whose child attended that
school or whatever.
They brought them to work thatday and and were able to
actually ask this child.
That was there, all thesequestions, you know, and they
(36:47):
had a lot of questions and theyasked good questions and had
them answered.
But the girl said when theyfirst heard the sirens on the
intercom system, all right, whenthey first heard the sirens on
the intercom system, somebodycame over the PA and told all
(37:12):
students, return to yourclassrooms.
All students return to yourclassrooms.
All students return to yourclassrooms immediately.
What happens in a lockdown?
How do lockdowns work?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I was pretty sure that you lock down, wherever you
are, whether it's the bathroom,whether it's the library,
whether it's the cafeteria, youlock the doors you hide.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So if you're in the fucking bathroom, your classroom
is locked.
You will be in the hallway,stuck there as a fucking Right
in the open for everything,exactly, exactly, and that was
what happened.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
And the teacher the first teacher that was shot, her
banging on the lockers had notbeen alerted to what was going
on Other than hearing allstudents return to your
classrooms, all right, hadn'theard the siren or anything.
And heard the banging on thelockers in the hallway and went
(38:17):
out to see what happened themoment she opened the door, the
moment they opened the door.
I don't know if it was the himor her, but the moment they
opened the door, they were shotimmediately.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, as soon as they stepped out into the hallway.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And Patty asked me why would they do something like
that?
That into the hallway, andpatty asked me, why would they
do something like that?
You know well, you know I'veseen a lot of military movies
and stuff and and when standingrock happened, the girl got her
arm blown off with the soundgrenade.
You know I was like why do theyeven have sound grenades?
You know things like that.
So I looked into you know whythey would even have them.
You know, but it's distractivetactic, you know, make a
(38:57):
commotion so that people comeout to see.
Then they're open, they'reexposed, unlocked and you have
the ability to move on.
Like when, when, when, you know, like when you're playing
basketball and you go to do afake pass and then you run the
other way.
You know it's a distractivetactic to get people, you see,
(39:19):
to get attention.
But get attention where youwant it, not on yourself, so
that you could move forward withwhat and what you're acting out
.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
and this is the thing , this is the thing that really
struck me, because I think thatthe whole that, that the whole
way that these shootings, theseshootings have evolved, because
it used to be that some supposedcrazy kid who, who had all you
know was just kind of whateverwhacked out, would go into a
(39:50):
school and just start randomlyshooting, just start randomly
shooting as soon as they got inthere.
There was no strategy, there'sno strategy, there's no, there's
no strategy.
It was reactive it was reactivebut this is strategic.
This is there.
They're actually using plans.
This is strategic.
(40:10):
This is a network of kids.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
This is a whole thing , it's a whole other thing
thatty's like, how would kidshave even learned something like
that?
And I was like, have you everseen the game call of duty?
No, have you ever seen a childplay call of duty?
Or a grown man?
Grown men play it more thankids do you know.
But but you know they're,they're getting military
(40:37):
training in this game and it'scommunicative.
It's communicative, they arecommunicating and they can help
each other to get better at it.
You know too, as they're playingit you know, like, and then
they're desensitized because thegraphics in it are just as real
as real life.
You know you can hardly tellthe difference between the game
(40:58):
and a video.
If you were watching a videoyou know they're.
They're so intense, so it's notlike.
They're not like seeingsomebody's face explode, you
know, like that's in the game,that's like real life.
They're just sensitized to it.
They're they trained, they'retactical and it's terrifying,
you know.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, and so that's so.
These school shootings haveevolved.
So you have the mental illnessstill there, but now you have
these school shootings evolvinginto something that's strategic,
and that's the thing that ispeople are really disturbed
about, because it's a networkand that's why there have been
(41:39):
so many arrests.
So there is a whole network ofyoung people who are involved in
these threats and perhaps thesestrategies about going into
what you know.
So who's what school is next,and I think that's why so many
people are on edge.
So the three letter agencieswould like us to believe that it
(42:00):
was just one crazy kid, asalways, but this has.
Everybody has a sense and Ithink this is part of the dread
that you're feeling in Ogie isthat everyone has a sense that
this is a whole other level, awhole level to schools level, a
(42:24):
whole different level to schools.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
On on, on wednesday or, or, uh, tuesday, one of the
two days, no, wednesday orthursday somebody that I had
known had posted up um georgiafam.
Do we know or have anyoneattending or working at
appalachia High School?
Please call or text.
And I was.
I was really upset, you knowand and and, but still trying to
(42:46):
talk myself out of how upset Iwas, you know.
So I didn't go as far intoeverything and I didn't know the
things that I was gonna findout, and I hadn't seen yet that
Patty, that same day, somebodyfrom Patty's school was detained
.
But I did find that out lateron in the day before I wrote
(43:06):
this.
But I wrote to her I saidsending prayers.
I didn't know the victims.
My next door neighbor workedwith one of the teachers last
year at a different school andis heartbroken at the loss of
his friend.
He is currently teaching in adistrict close by and he is
traumatized too.
I also have a friend teachingat a different high school, also
(43:28):
neighboring this school.
Violence in schools isescalating across the board,
with student teacher acts ofviolence and student student
acts of violence.
It's a scary environment, soterrible.
I only had my kid in publicschool for less than a month and
I could tell that that was howGeorgia school operates Lots of
bullying from students and fromstaff.
(43:49):
My son was in kindergarten andgot choked out, kicked into a
urinal by an older kid, pushedon the playground and was
bleeding from his face one daywhen I picked him up and not one
staff or student asked if hewas okay.
We homeschool here now and thatwill never change.
Most schools are the onlyoption for the whole district.
(44:09):
Compared to Florida, they'renot understaffed, most have
classes of 23 with a teacher andan aide in elementary school
and they're 30 to 1 in the uppergrades.
But they completely overlookthe essentials and importance of
safety and empathy and whatthey're there to do, and I
believe that that causes largerproblems down the line.
(44:31):
My heart aches for the familiesthat have lost a loved one.
Georgia does not put theireducation system as a priority
unless it has to do with thecounty's football programs, and
that's true.
You know they'll invest what$300,000 in AstroTurf for the
football field.
But you know we're just goingto go with buttons on our ID
(44:53):
badge for security and and getrid of the, the security,
because this was not a schoolthat they had removed the
security from, but I believe, umtwo counties over, they fired
all of the school resourceofficers.
There are no school resourceofficers there.
So so I mean, you know theythey don't just devalue safety,
(45:19):
they're literally workingtowards taking safety away.
Now in lawrenceville they, theyare firearm training the
teachers.
All right, and if you've everseen a video of one of their
training sessions, I have to saythat that is probably the most
terrifying thing I will everever witness in my life.
(45:43):
Okay, because it's little menrunning around with a gun like
this, yeah, okay, holding thisblue gun with a big rubber
ribbon hanging off of it likethis, pointing it at every
children that every child thatruns by, trying to determine
whether or not they're the badguy or not?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Racist teachers who are shooting any POC kid like
absolutely fucking not, If youwatch the video of them firearm
training these teachers?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
it is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
There's one teacher at my kid's high school that's
like so He'll get in the kids'faces and scream hoorah at them.
I'm like somebody give him agun.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
There was a woman who was like we'll protect your
kids here in Lawrenceville,makes this whole video and then
puts the training video in hervideo.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
All right, and she's in the video I actually, you
know, I think, like the, the,the um, the ones who stopped the
this, this particular shooterwas taken alive.
I mean, usually they're they'reshot, but this which is really
strange, well, but I think, Ithink that it was because it was
(46:57):
the school.
It was the school.
So they have designated schoolofficers who are armed I mean,
they have that at my school tooand sometimes you don't even
know who they are.
But there's, like you know,three or four on on campus who
are you know, who are there andarmed and just doing security.
Um, and I think, like if it's aschool-based person who's doing
(47:20):
it, they are less likely toshoot first at ask questions
later.
It's a student, it's somebodyyoung.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
They want to take them, they want to take them
alive, and so yeah, even thoughhe didn't have any relationship
with them because it was hisfirst full day, he only made it
to 10 o'clock exactly, but hewas still a kid.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Obviously he was a young kid.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
If it was a SWAT team , that wouldn't have it makes me
so ill, it makes me so sick tomy stomach the mental
preparedness that this kid wentthrough to do this, though,
because if you look at any ofhis interviews, he is just just
his dad losing his shit.
(48:03):
The kid stone faced.
Yes, sir, respectful, you know,and like not disrespectful, not
anything.
There was a video that showedsomebody kicking and screaming
as they were putting them into acar, and it was like this is
god's decision and you shouldknow, but I don't think that
(48:23):
that was the same situation orplace.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I think that that was one of the kids arrested from a
different school, that's evenscarier.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know, is, is, is, is it?
Is it religious?
You know?
Is it like what?
What are these kids motiveshere?
And and what is it that youknow?
Is it like?
What are these kids motiveshere?
And what is it that broughtthem together?
Because they're all reallynormal kids like parents, wise
family wise.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I don't think it's religious.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
I don't know what it was.
Did you see that video with thekid getting loaded into the car
, screaming all that?
I'll have to find that, becausethat was what made me.
Did you see that video with thekid getting loaded into the car
, screaming all that?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I'll have to find that, because that was what made
me wonder you know, what is itthat's tying all these really
normal kids together?
Right, and the thing is, it'slike how much of the news do we
trust?
Speaker 3 (49:10):
None of it.
You know how much of the newslike you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Like, really, how much of the news um do we trust?
Because you know there's always, you know, an agenda ready to
jump in whenever um, these kindsof um things happen.
And uh, enoki, you're right,like we don't the, you know, you
can say, take everyone's guns,but the thing is it's like we
still we have a, we have amental illness issue,
particularly with our youngpeople, and we have no idea how
(49:37):
to and it's?
Speaker 3 (49:38):
it's caused by a complete and total lack of
empathy in the united states.
It's caused by, you know,people.
You know judging people and andpushing people off to the side.
It's caused by our economy.
You know situations and stuffyou know, but really, at the end
of the day, it's the fact thatif you go through something,
you're going to be segregatedinstead of brought in, you know,
(50:03):
and back.
You know, back before you knowwhen things would happen.
You know somebody lost theirhusband or if somebody you know
the community would cometogether.
You know, and they would.
They would involve people youknow in things you know and
still try to make them feelhuman together.
You know, and they would.
They would involve people youknow in things you know and
still try to make them feelhuman.
You know, like there have beenplenty of times where that
(50:23):
hasn't happened.
There's been plenty of timeswhere you're persecuted or
murdered.
You know if you have asituation or something you know.
But if we had that empathy, ifwe thought about how we were
making people feel when we weredoing things, it would be like
really hard for anybody to carryout things like that.
(50:44):
You know, if you cared aboutthe people around you.
This kid didn't even know any ofthese people you know and he
was willing to murder them all.
You know he didn't know any ofthem and he was willing to
murder them all you know, like,like, where you know, there's
two types of people in the world.
I was telling patty the otherday you know, you have the
(51:07):
people that are like somethinghappened to me and because
that's something happened to me,I'm gonna turn around, I'm
gonna do it to everybody becausefuck that and fuck them, and I,
I, I I'm so against them andand it hurt me and I'm going to
hurt everybody.
And then there's the peoplethat have something happen to
them and and they're like, oh myGod, that hurt me so bad.
(51:29):
I could never do that to anotherhuman being.
I could never feel that way ormake somebody feel that way or
or do that same thing, becauseit was the most painful thing
I'd ever felt.
And those are the two types ofpeople that are in the world and
it's scary, but it's a 50-50like that.
(51:51):
It really just depends on arethey going to be like well, fuck
that, fuck them and fuckeveryone.
Or are they going to be likeman, you know, that was horrible
, like how do we not do thatever again?
Speaker 1 (52:05):
How do?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
we change that.
You know, like you know, I feellike, if you know who was
talking to this person, you knowwho was sharing their opinions
with them, and you know, whatnot?
You watch this kid's video, orwhatever.
He goes hunting with his dadand his dad his dad at first is
(52:27):
pressuring him about killing adeer.
Is he going to do it, orwhatever?
Then he does.
He makes him go over to it andhe smears the blood on his face
from this deer.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Is this the?
Speaker 3 (52:41):
same kid, the same kid.
No, this is the same kid thatjust shot all these other kids
at Appalachian high schoolbecause you know that that's
from a movie yeah, yeah, I sawthat.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I saw that in a movie but here's the interesting
thing, see it's it's really allabout perspective, because when
I, when I saw that scene in thisparticular movie, it's really
all about perspective, becausewhen I, when I saw that scene in
this particular movie, it wasreally about honoring the life
of of that, of that deer, andbeing grateful for it was a
whole other scene that was aboutthe way that they did the life
(53:20):
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, the way that they did this in the video, the
father and the kid, it was, likeyou know, smear the blood of
your enemy across your face.
You know?
No, no sorrow, no honor, no,none of that you know, they're
like oh look, I see white,uh-huh, you know, laughing,
(53:41):
joking, laughing joking, and thekid's face is covered in blood.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, I think that my sense is that we have another
incident like this and our highschools will probably go remote,
like I honestly do think, likewe are on the edge of making
high schools go remote becauseyoung, because you know, we
(54:14):
can't guarantee the safety ofour young people.
And I think there are a lot ofparents who are saying, yeah,
it's going to be hard, but I'mgoing to homeschool because I
can't guarantee that the schoolcannot guarantee the safety of
my, of my child or children, soI'm going to pull them out.
And I honestly think that we'rekind of on the edge of seeing
(54:38):
kind of the collapse of oureducational system, Because,
yeah, I mean, and I think it is,I think it's because we pay, we
pray, we vote, we're proactive,we get involved, we volunteer
at the schools you know stillfalling, give our input and
there's nothing that we can doto change it.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
And so, like my situation, you know, I pulled my
son out.
I said no, no, we're not goingto participate if you can't
guarantee his safety here atschool, right in kindergarten,
in his first less than a month,you know.
Then then then you can't beresponsible for my kids, right?
I'm going to be responsible formy kid I'm going to make sure
(55:17):
that he's at home safe.
I'm going to do whatever I haveto do to do that.
You know and I have a reallyaffordable homeschool program.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
It's only like 39 a month and they give discounts
for multiple kids right, it'shard here, which is cheaper,
there's only one school, oneumbrella school that I can pull
the boys out of, it's where Iput them and when we were at um
st jude's, um, there's only oneschool that is a not religious
based homeschool.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
So, and you know, curriculum included and it's
mine has a bible class, but youdon't have to.
You know it's not.
It's not a required thing.
So you build the curriculum,pick which of the classes you
want to do, or whatever um, but,but.
But it's accredited and it's anationwide um school too.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
It's called me academy you always have k
through 12.
You know they send boxes toyour house.
It has like science,experiments and books, like
patty was saying to me the otherday.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
That that's still, you know, still kind of public
school and that's still, youknow, virtual web based.
You know that they're in yourhome just as much as you're in
in their videos, you know likeyou're yeah, you're still.
You know all of that and that'swhy I went when I put him in
(56:40):
school, it was.
It was like 150 dollars for thatone month worth of lunch,
because the first lunch isn'treally enough.
You know that they give freelunches here in Georgia, but
it's not enough sustenance foryour kid really, you know.
So between the lunch, thesnacks, the extracurricular
(57:01):
things, the recreational thingsand the gas to drive him back
and forth, it was like 150 amonth, like you know.
You take all that away it's 39 amonth and they go up through
high school and they'reaccredited and you pick what
classes you're teaching them.
It does have a bible class, butyou don't have to.
(57:22):
It's an elective it's not arequired class they have their
core curriculum.
They organize it all for you.
You're not really having to gothrough and and organize each
subject you know in in a waythat that is hard.
They wreck, they record it allfor you.
You don't have to keep recordbecause it's all there.
(57:45):
You just have to make sure thathe's doing it.
That's it.
Yeah, you know, and it's areally, instead of being like
work on trails and an app, likemost of the homeschools were or
whatever, this is a really nice,clean, good, functioning, easy
to work with platform you know Imean so.
(58:06):
So it saved me money, it savedme time, it put the
responsibility of my kid in myown hands, you know, and it was
cheaper than putting them in inpublic school the other reason I
went with, the choice I wentwith, was it was the only way
that I didn't have to have themdo standardized testing.
There's no standardized testing.
(58:28):
With this one, you can opt todo that with your state, but
it's not required.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Unless it's these homeschools here, it is
absolutely required.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
And their high school platforms they come into the
school twice a year to dostandardized testing absolutely
not yeah and their, their highschool platform, I believe,
provides you with a high schooldiploma at the end of completion
.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
I mean, it was like the coolest thing ever yeah, no,
I, I like that, and so one ofthe like 200 people join the
thechool forums and so.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
I've been doing talking about it.
Yeah all week long.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, I mean, because I think you're going to see
that you're going to see kind ofan exodus out of the, out of
the schools, and and I think,like just what you were talking
about, like in terms of like,where has this sense of, you
know, empathy or community going?
I think about, like the woman,the woman I met over over the
weekend who's like, if I needeggs, I know somebody who has
(59:33):
eggs.
We are like we have become thislittle community that looks
after each other, so we don'thave to worry about any of us
going hungry or if there's aproblem or if there's an issue
on anybody, any of us goinghungry or if there's a problem
or if there's an issue onanybody, there's always somebody
who can help.
And so I I hear that and Ithink that's that is also
happening parallel to all ofthis.
(59:54):
You know, disintegration isthat you've got these little
self contained, you knowsustainable little communities
of people coming together whocare about each other and take
care of each other.
Um, and I think that that'sgoing to happen more and more on
local, on local levels, andit's just kind of finding, uh,
(01:00:17):
those, you know those placeswhere, um, where people are
coming together and creatingtheir own local community.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I honestly Home school groups, have a co-op
groups or whatever, which are,like you know, 10 kids, you know
that are all homeschooled athome and come together for you
know two or three days in theweek or whatever, for an
extracurricular activity orwhatever Field trips or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, we go up to the your kid is still getting
some sort of of you knowimmunocom.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I'm not saying isolate from the world.
I'm saying remove yourself fromthe system that is killing our
children.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, at this point it's, it's you know, and, and
what's going to be left at theschool system is going to be
terrifying after these exodus,I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Now that they're in high school.
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, well, it's going to be the only you know,
the only kids that are reallygoing to be left there are going
to be the kids that peopledidn't want to try, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Or they just don't have any other option.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
You know they don't, yeah, they don't, they don't
have that are available becauseour parents, yeah, aren't around
, or you know they.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
You know they get it in their head.
You know that there's nothingthat they could do, you know.
But it is what it is, but it'llbe what you make it.
You know you can always dosomething about something, you
know and and for high schoolkids.
It is hard, you know, but atthe same time, you know, so was
covid.
Yeah, and we all made itthrough that you know, so was
(01:01:54):
covid, and we all survived.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That you know mostly and mostly yeah, you know,
mostly, mostly, I don't know.
We people didn't exactly ummostly survive the vaccine, but
that's a whole issue um well, Ilost my grandpa yeah, exactly,
um, but uh, what was I gonna say?
(01:02:18):
I forgot?
Oh, my goodness, we're about atthe hour mark and do you guys
want to pull a card real quickbefore we end?
Sure, yep, so we're going topull a card, you know, like
(01:02:40):
we've done in the past, and Ithink, like this is really.
These are things that I think awhole lot of people are
thinking about and talking aboutand trying to figure out.
I think that the running themeacross so many areas is how do
we protect our children?
Because, you know, our childrenare kind of you know, kind of
(01:03:08):
no pun intended, but like underthe gun in a lot of ways,
extremely vulnerable, yes,extremely vulnerable, extremely
vulnerable in terms of theirhealth, you know, in terms of
like the oh.
So we have the temple.
All right, bring it in, bringit in, bring it in.
So we've got the temple forinspiration for the coming weeks
(01:03:29):
.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So the temple, the sanctuary, the shrine, the altar
.
When we think of the temple, weoften envision an architectural
structure and a far-off land.
We're quick to distanceourselves from the sacred,
assuming we must have spent mucheffort in order to arrive there
(01:03:55):
.
Yet the temple is a universaland omnipresent energy,
accessible in the highest andlowest riches and forest places.
Visiting the temple might be assimple as stepping into the
dappled light of the forestslowly and sinuously, kissing a
(01:04:18):
lover, or closing your eyes totravel inward.
This part is a call toreexamine what we pay homage to
and what we reject.
What do we spend our timeworshiping?
Phone Money, material goods?
What barriers do we drawbetween ourselves and the sacred
?
Perhaps there is room on ouraltar for something new.
(01:04:42):
What can we offer to theheavens?
Heavens, though.
Indeed, the temple travels withus.
This part is interwoven, uh,with a pilgrim, so essentially
it's part of a spiritual journey.
Um, the ancient yogis saw thebody as the temple right, so we
(01:05:05):
were never separated from it.
And this makes me think of thekids and that if we were
teaching them how to express ourown divinity and understand
(01:05:25):
overstand that our body is atemple right, there would be a
lot less of this.
So there is a homework for thiscard, and it is.
It's almost like a littlehomeschool game.
It says build a shrine withonly found materials, only found
(01:05:50):
materials.
So this week, I urge you all tofind things from the earth that
you can add to your ownpersonal shrine.
But, moreover, the temple forme signifies exactly what Anokhi
said, and that's bringing ithome.
It starts at home.
(01:06:10):
We have to love these kids, man.
We have to love our kids,friends.
We have to love our students.
We've got to show these kidslove, man.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
It's so important well, I love you guys, I love
you guys too, the best sundayever thank you, I'm gonna keep
baking that bread and we'll.
We'll plan for um, don't stoptrying being together, getting
together sometime this fall I'mgonna randomly stop and eat your
(01:06:45):
bread one day yes, that wouldbe lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
My bandmate, my band, my bandmate is in murrayville
okay, a little bit north, alittle bit further than me yeah,
yeah, so I gotta pass you twicewell, give me a heads up.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Give me a text you better text.
Yeah, have a beautiful day.
You guys Love you.
Have a beautiful day.
Have a beautiful day, love you.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
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