July 27, 2024 • 68 mins
Ever felt like life throws you into the whirlwind of chaos, testing every ounce of your intuitive abilities? This episode kicks off with some light-hearted tech talk but quickly shifts gears as we delve into the dramatic story of a seven-car pileup involving Taylor's husband, Pat. Both Taylor and Pat had an uncanny premonition about the accident, and as if that wasn't enough, Pat was wrongfully accused of insurance fraud. Through intense moments and spontaneous chaos, we explore the vital role of intuition in steering through life's unpredictable storms.
Have you ever had an unsettling experience with law enforcement? Anoki shares her experience of being pulled over at 3 AM and how it exemplified broader societal insecurities. From minor traffic stops to the tragic story of Sonia Massey, we examine the complex dynamics between citizens and police officers. We discuss how these interactions, whether minor or severe, shape our perceptions and highlight the necessity for proper training in mental healthcare for law enforcement.
We then journey through intriguing intersections of pop culture, spirituality, and nature. From "The Simpsons" eerie predictions to spiritual connections with animals, this episode is rich with varied topics. Join us as we share the beauty of simple human connections, the joy of creative pursuits like making raw milk cheddar cheese, and the grounding power of nature. Through personal stories and thoughtful discussions, we underscore the importance of mindfulness, gratitude, and staying grounded amidst the chaos.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right well welcome and good morning.
Good morning, this is Patty,with Patty Talks Too Much and
I'm here with my dear friendsAnoki and Taylor and of course
we've already been chattingabout cool, cool technology like
.
But we're kind of a little allright, I'll speak for myself.
I'm a little jealous aboutinoki's ipad camera, auto focus
(00:32):
thing that's going on over there.
That makes her look so dramaticand I just yeah, it's a
dramatic close-up anyway, itdramatic close up.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I didn't even make it , I didn't even set it as an
option.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean next time it does it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I need you to just be like sometimes.
I feel like somebody's watchingme, alright you guys have you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know I love chaos , right?
You know I love chaos, I livefor chaos.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
However, don't say that so you don't live, for I
mean like I like it, you handleit.
You can in chaos.
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But you don't want it all the time.
Well, maybe I don't want it allthe time.
All right, listen, let me justclarify this.
Ordering chaos cannot workwithout the other right.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
yes, I know you say this all the time sometimes one
tip right.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I've just noticed lately that there is a lot of
spontaneous chaos happening inthe lives of those around me.
Okay, and I don't want to labelanything as good or bad does it
have anything to?
do with you, um.
So so I'll give you an example.
(01:50):
The other day I was driving andit was raining, and I wasn't
driving my new car, I wasdriving the old car and I had
this, had a feeling come over me.
I will call call it intuition,and my intuition was that hold
on, I've lost a headphone heremy intuition was that I was
(02:14):
going to get in a car accidentand so I was driving very
carefully to you know whatever Icould do to write that right.
I didn't want to get in a caraccident, obviously, but I could
feel that energy so I make ithome safe.
I'm like good, we're good,we're good.
Well, the next morning, patdrove um the new truck to work
(02:40):
and he was gonna drive the carthat I drove and he thought, you
know what it's raining and,unbeknownst to me, he had sensed
a car accident.
So he got on the truck.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
His GPS tried to get him to get off the highway, but
he got back on.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And he got in a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He got into a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
He was hurt, he's fine.
He's fine.
I mean, you know he got someserious whiplash.
The brand new truck is not okayShit.
But obviously all that mattersis that he's okay.
Nobody got hurt, he wasn't atfault.
So our car is going to getfixed.
(03:33):
But the chaos of the moment wasso intense, right, because I had
felt it coming, kat had felt itcoming.
We hadn't told each other thatwe both had this underlying
feeling of dread about a caraccident and then he ended up
getting in one.
Then the cop comes up to himbecause Pat the way Pat got into
(03:57):
the car accident was he saw itcoming, so he tried to.
As he was getting hit frombehind, he tried to turn out of
the line.
Somebody stopped dead on thehighway up ahead so he tried to
get out of the line and shootthis way, but he still clipped
the car in front of him and thecar behind him hit him so hard
that it shot him out of theseven cars and way over here.
(04:22):
So when the cop showed up up,he accused pat of insurance
fraud and said I'll take you tojail for insurance fraud wait a
minute because he thought thatpat had caused the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, because he thought that pat just pulled
over on the side.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He was he was pulled over on the side of the road,
way out of the accident.
He could have said anything andbeen like, yeah, it was in the
accident.
I had this damage on my brandnew truck.
I just need coverage on it.
You know what I mean but hedidn't get shot out of it, but
he just got shot out now luckilysomebody had evidence, photo
evidence alongside thatcoincided with Pat's, you know
(05:05):
yeah right with with where pat'struck was wrecked, yeah, but
I'm like this is the third timethat that somebody in uh
enforcement or or or securityhas stopped you and tried to pin
(05:27):
something on you.
I'm like the energy is justwild and and it's not just him,
I've noticed it at work too um,it's just, it's a lot.
It's a lot going on and it'salmost like I can laugh about it
.
But it's almost like these,these levels of tests.
You know there's tears to thesetests, and so some of us are
(05:52):
just continually getting testedright now and it can feel, it
can feel victimy, you know.
Yeah, it can feel like why isthis happening to me?
Me, you know.
Yeah, it can feel like why isthis happening to me?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
um, and we just have to remember that that the tests
come when the student is readyand and that you know there's a
purpose to all of it yeah, butyou know, I mean I also think
like in general, in general, andI mean I don't I don't disagree
with that at all, but likethere's in general, there's so
much more tension.
I think that there's moreacting out.
(06:29):
I think there are more peoplegoing off on other people, more
erratic driving.
I mean like people are kind ofthere are many different levels
of people losing their shit, youknow and it's expressed in a
different way.
Yeah, it's being expressed in adifferent way.
Yeah, it's, it's beingexpressed in in in so many
different ways.
And so I think it's kind of youknow and and I think it's good
(06:54):
that your intuition right now isvery, very strong, because I
think it'll help you and Patnavigate some.
You know, some things that youknow some of the cray cray out
there.
You know, because you kind ofwant to stay clear of the cray
cray and sometimes you can andsometimes you can't.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, sometimes it's your partner and sometimes you
have to just.
You know that it's not.
You know I can be here, butlike this is your battle, you
know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like I can't fight this fight for you.
Yeah, I think a lot ofinteractions, you know, with
everybody on an individual level, instead of people like
expecting the good in otherpeople, you know, like, and then
the bad being being like somekind of a shock, people like
normalize the bad and arelooking for the bad in people
(07:52):
and not expecting good in peopleat all, and then being shocked
when they come across somethinggood.
And it sucks that it's that way, you know, because it used to
be such a shock when somebodywould do something, when
something bad would happen, whensomething would go on, you know
(08:12):
, and, and now you know, peopleare like oh, you know, that
happened to this person or this,you know, or you know like like
pat's interaction with thepolice officer, you know the
police officer I probablyexperienced that 10 other times
before and he did.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
He apologized to pat at the end of it all the way
over here, but actually, youknow, connected to it he said he
had a thing for insurance fraud, and pat was like I have all
this proof, where there's allthis proof, and so he did end up
apologizing and pat did end upobviously not being at fault,
but, um, and those are thosemoments where it's like, am I
(08:53):
going to keep my composure?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
yeah, because if I don't, keep my composure.
Oh, you're screwed, oh yeah youhave to like normalize that Like
it sucks because you have toexpect that that cop is going to
try to, you know, find anythingthat he can, you know, because
that's his job.
You know, at this point, andthe world is more bad than it is
(09:16):
good, you know so where.
You know not everybody used to.
You know get full, you knowchecks, or you know everything
run you know every time that youknow get full, you know checks,
or you know everything run.
You know every time that youknow they had an out light, you
know how about that elderly?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
woman.
I mean the, the, the signs ofauthority are getting really
it's also a sign that I isgetting really authoritative,
because you know, that's onething, everybody expects that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
To shoot somebody outside.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, we're all waiting for it, you know,
because at this point many of usdon't trust law enforcement.
When you watch that video withthat elderly woman the other day
with the boiling pot of water.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I didn't see it either.
My kids were very, but I do haveto say I got pulled over last
week and, and, and you know itwas three o'clock in the morning
I take my partner to work real,real early.
You know.
I come back home, I sleep forlike another hour or two and
then I'm up, but, um, you know,so it's, it's the middle of the
(10:27):
night.
You know, I take her to workevery day in the same way.
I take her down there and Idrop her off and I'm heading
home.
I've got night is in the backor whatever, and uh, you know I
see a police officer.
I'm always doing this, evenlike, because I sing this little
I ain't got no cheap money songeverywhere I go and yeah.
(10:49):
I would cross this bridge and Isee the silhouette of this
police officer pulled over, so Imake sure I get over, you know.
So I'm not in the lane rightnext to him when I pass him and
boom, he turns his lights on,pulls right up behind me and I'm
and I don't know why, becausethis hasn't happened to me in a
long time my last fewinteractions with police
officers I was I was okay, youknow, like, like, but this time
(11:12):
like and I didn't have there'snothing wrong with my car, you
know nothing.
I wasn't speeding, you know.
I've got my son with me.
I don't have any kind of youknow anything at all.
I don't drink, you know.
So there's no possibility ofthe day before you know, nothing
, you know.
So he pulled me over and, forwhatever reason, my heart rate
shot up to like 150 oh, I'm sure, of course I had my, I had my
(11:36):
fitbit on, but I but I was okayand he was really nice and he
gave me a warning and he didn'tdo anything, what?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What was the warning for?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So both of my tag lights were out and they were
and he said you don't have anytag lights.
And I was like nothing.
He's like no, I guess I hadn'tnoticed, you know, but we have
to slam my trunk for it to close, right.
So I think it probably wassomething to do with banging it
(12:06):
closed all the time.
You know that just made themshort out or whatever, but
anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That is the most bullshit excuse to get pulled
over in the first place.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I thought for sure, I was like that is a late word.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I looked at him.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, I looked at him and I was like both them are
out.
And he's like yeah, he's likeyou don't have anything back
there, and I was like okay, Iwas like no, no, I was like okay
, well, I'll get it fixed rightaway.
I'm a clinton tech, so I'lljust change the bulbs.
Um, you know, hopefully it'sjust that, but both of them are
(12:43):
out.
Maybe it's a fuse, you know.
Well, he went back to the carand he ran my stuff, you know.
And then he came back to the carand he was like oh, I'm just
gonna give you a verbal warning,you know, go get them fixed,
you know, and I was like thankyou so much, because in my head
I'm still singing my I ain't gotno ticket money song, you know,
(13:05):
and I'm just thinking, oh mygod, it's like three hundred
dollars, you know, there's somany things that I need.
Yeah, yeah, they're less thanthree hundred dollars right now.
You know that I'm working hardfor, and now that puts them even
further you know.
So so it it it was, you know, Idon't know.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was a really easy reason to pull you over.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, yeah, and that's kind of that's what
happens.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It was really nice.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, I mean because they, you know I could have been
some bad guy you know, and hecould have pulled me over for
the tag light and then stoppedsomething else really bad from
happening.
Yeah, you know, because, likeyou know, that's just what it is
, but that's because the worldis sacred man yeah, the world is
expecting this, this negativething, to happen, but you don't
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know why that cop stopped you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You don't know what you missed in that five minutes
ten minutes that you were pulledover.
You know we really have tounderstand that synchronicity
and divine timing play a roleevery moment of our lives yeah,
I mean it could be an accidentat the light right up ahead of
me you know, if I wasn't over onthe side or a deer, you know,
(14:17):
could have run out exactly justlike what happened to your
partner.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But you know, I mean like driving, driving at three
in the morning, I think is likethey're all you know.
If there are cops out on thestreet they're.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's um automatically suspect of people
who are out at that hour, ohyeah I told him, you know, I was
taking my partner to work.
You know like he.
He was like okay, you know heran my, my information, but my,
my florida tag has my bald oneaddress.
(14:54):
So he was like, he was like.
He was like at first he was alittle suspicious of of my
florida tag when I told him Ilived there, but then he
realized he's like oh, because Ihave a residence at both places
so I can do that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But I don't have to pay that adverdum or whatever
tax that they have here inGeorgia only where you pay the
full sales tax for your vehicleat purchase price, not your
purchase price, but at purchaseprice, not Kelly Blue Book not
kelly blue book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to.
I had to do that when Iregistered.
But yeah, and I think it's it'strue.
(15:35):
I mean it's the synchronicityand it's it's just kind of like
keeping our heads on straight,um, and keeping ourselves
centered during this during thistime, because everybody is on
edge, everybody's on edge.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Law enforcement is on edge.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, I think everybody is on edge.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So, they're a part of it.
Yeah, they're a part ofeverybody, you know.
My uncle has family to go hometo my uncle had family to go
home to.
My cousin had family to go hometo.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I have you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
My uncle used to do Georgia Avenue in Palm Beach.
That was his beat for like 20years, yeah, and so you know,
know, so he expects a lot ofnegative things in life, you
know.
But he's seen a lot of negativethings and I think that's the
(16:35):
point of it.
You know, like TV, everything,all of it.
You know, we went from you knowBeverly Hillbillies and you
know Little House on the Prairieto you know Beverly Hillbillies
and you know Little House onthe Prairie to you know, this is
what we're going to talk aboutand do now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So this little old lady the other day called the
cops because she thought therewas somebody in her apartment.
The cops show up, they enterher dwelling.
She's cooking a pot of boilingwater on the stove and the cop
says something along the linesof move your fucking hands off
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the pot or I'm going to shootyou in the fucking face.
Okay, this woman is like in her80s.
Okay, little black lady, she'scooking on the stove.
It turns out the woman is umparanoid, schizophrenic.
So she called for help becauseshe felt like somebody was
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around her or in her place,right.
So when she, when the cop saysthat to her, she puts her hands
up with the two potholders inher hands and she says I rebuke
you in the name of Jesus.
And she just sinks down withthe two potholders in her hands
and crouches in the corner.
(18:05):
And he came around the cornerand he shot her in the fucking
hand.
Are you kidding me?
No, warning, no, just fuckingkilled her.
Four shots, three or four shots.
And they called his partner,came around the corner to get
you know, to call for anambulance, and he said it's a
fucking headshot, dude, long ofthe short, this particular where
(18:30):
was this, by the way?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
what state was this?
I don't remember you don't knowwhere in the country?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
no, it wasn't in the country I'm sure, if I know,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What do you mean?
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It wasn't in the united states, oh, no, yes, I
thought you meant like thecountry.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, no, I mean the state, what?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
state was it in?
I'm not sure what state it was,but it was definitely in our
country.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's not in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's not in the country.
What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Was that so?
But what did you mean?
It seemed like it was an urbansetting, that this took place
Like in a city.
You know, I'm not quite sure itwas.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It was an apartment.
So I think, yeah, maybe I thinkso, but long of the short this
particular officer had had likefour.
He had been to four differentpolice departments in the matter
of five years due to all of his, uh, crass decision making.
Yeah, so he had just beenpassed along he had just been
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passed along and two duis toboot.
So these are the people thatare our authoritators.
You know, like it's just, it'sreally hard.
Well, he was a psycho.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He was a psycho who shouldn't have been a police
officer.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I mean, like I wouldn't, I don't like to know
it was in Illinois.
Chicago, her name.
Her name was Sonia Massey Sonia, yeah, sonia Massey.
The deputy involved was DeputySean Grayson and he was charged
(20:12):
with murder after shooting herthree times in the head.
She was not a little old lady,though.
She was 36 years old.
36 years old is what it says.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, she had her two kids there, that's right.
So she wasn't an old lady.
She looks very elderly in thevideo so she must have really
been hunched over, because whatI saw she looked elderly.
So I'm sorry about the wronginformation.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No, no, no, no, there were two children too.
Yeah, in the video two deputiesare seen in the intense
encounter.
It doesn't say that she called,but oh yeah, sonia Massey
(21:02):
called the emergency line toreport a potential prowler at
her residence in Springfield,illinois.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Springfield, illinois , mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I have another random thing to share.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hold on just before we move on to that.
So the thing is is like yeah,there are psychos, you know who
should never, who should nothave had, not have a badge
should not be ever right, thereare psychos like that.
But I also have nephews, all allyou know.
I'm all but one of my nephewsas a police officer and these
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are, these are upstanding,they're in the military, they're
upstanding kids who care a lotabout their community and would
never in a million years treatsomeone like that.
And so I just think like we canmake you know, like I always
hesitate about making blanketstatements about law enforcement
, because there are some reallyreally good, really good, and
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they want to do the right thingby the people.
They want to do the right thingby the community.
You know they've got their ownfamilies, they've got babies on
the way.
These are, you know, these areguys who you know they've got
their own families, they've gotbabies on the way.
These are, you know, these areguys who you know they love life
and they love children and theyprotect women and they want to
do the right thing in thecommunity and they would never,
ever, ever do something likethat.
(22:21):
And I think, unfortunately,psychos like that make, you know
, make it hard for all of them,because you know, I don't think
that we can, at this point inour, at this point, eliminate
all police because, you know,because something, we really
need them sometimes.
(22:42):
You know, sometimes there'ssome shit going down and we need
to call if they were properlytrained's not bad.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If they were properly trained in healthcare, if they
were properly trained in mentalhealthcare.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
These types of instances wouldn't be happening
as much.
You know they're doing thatwith teachers.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They have a right along psychologist they should?
There's so much so much there.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
and it's a team, and the reason I brought this up is
is to give you a variation of ofwhat a cop that realized he was
wrong and had the ability toapologize over over assumptions
with Pat she.
Cops that don't makeassumptions, they just assume
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that their immediate triggerresponse is correct.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That was psycho, though there's a big variation.
He's a psycho cop.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
As far as authority goes, there is a spectrum.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, okay, sure, as you know, as far as authority
goes, there is a spectrum rightyeah okay, sure, that's like.
I think that it was a.
You know, it's really important, you know to say that just last
week with the georgia statepatrol officer.
I had a positive interaction.
He was nice, he was respectful,I was.
I was totally panicked, for noreason, you know like the, the.
(24:09):
I Was the weird one in thatsituation, you know, like and,
and I came home it.
Well, it wasn't like he wasn'tlooking, he pulled you.
Yeah, he was so nice.
You know, you know yeah but Ilet myself Get like that, you
know, and then try to not youknow.
You know, yeah, but I letmyself get like that.
(24:30):
You know and I try to not youknow assume the worst of any
situation you know.
But but you know, there's stillmoments where where I do too,
you know and I'm glad that thathe wasn't a bad guy, that he was
a good guy, that he was a goodpolice officer, that he did his
job.
He checked out my stuff.
(24:50):
I did have something wrong withmy car you know like it was
three o'clock in the morning,you know, but, but, but I felt
like I have something to work onthere with that and then I
needed to acknowledge the factthat it was a good interaction
with a police officer just doinghis job, you know.
(25:12):
And so there are really goodpolice officers out there that
do just that what they're thereto do, to protect, to serve, to
check anything that might besuspicious.
You know, like my car's gotstickers all over it it's not
the best condition, you know.
I've got tinted windows Likeit's all black.
Like you know it's threeo'clock in the morning, like
(25:36):
there was reason, you know, forhim to stop me.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, to wonder what was going on.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
For me to panic, because I could have fed some
kind of panic in him too.
You know like our emotionsspread to the people around us,
you know, like, which is why youknow a lot of the times people
like they keep to themselvesbecause there's a lot going on
in the world, you know and nomatter what, when you're out and
(26:01):
you're interacting, you'reexperiencing it.
You're experiencing throughyour friends.
You're experiencing justlooking at.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I've never not been able to be pulled over by the
police without experiencing itlike I wasn't white.
Now let me, let me.
Let me stand correct when I saythis.
I am fully aware of whiteprivilege and what it does for
me when I get pulled over by thepolice.
I am fully aware.
However, I still don't feellike a white person.
When I get pulled over, Iimmediately panic, I immediately
(26:31):
my heart rate shoots throughthe roof, I out of my ignition
and I put them on my dashboard.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
My car is turned off my music is turned off.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I do not play about getting pulled over by the
police.
It makes me very nervous, butthat is because every time I was
pulled over as an adolescent Iwas treated a specific way.
It was because I hung out onWashington and Latona and when I
(27:05):
got pulled over it was why thefuck are you in this
neighborhood and who do you knowthat's Black?
That's how I was raised, so Iimmediately get pulled over and
feel some type of way because asan adolescent I was never
treated by the police properly.
I was beat up by the police.
The Lake Worth Police Departmentwas.
(27:25):
So what's the word?
I'm looking for corrupt itwasn't like it was so corrupt
that when they got me finallygot me in the lake worth police
department no adult present theykept me in that room for seven
hours questioning me abouteverybody I knew in Lake Worth
(27:49):
and and the guys, what, whatwould, this person was doing and
who they ran with and whatquestions that I didn't even
know the answers to and theywould not let me go um but they
were all corrupt back then inthe early 2000s, and so that was
what I learned of cops, and soit's, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Lantana.
It was a really little town,and so it wasn't as corrupt as
corrupt, you know yeah, but theywere still dicks.
That worked for Lantana tooyeah, but but for the most part
and I get that we were hoodlumkids, I get that and you weren't
, you know, then they were allright, you know, and they'd just
(28:33):
talk to you or tell you to gohome, you know, or whatever like
, for the most part, they wouldtell you to go home, but I have
also experienced.
You know was was stupid, butwhatever, so though Broward was
was rough.
Any interactions with Broward,you know everybody's a criminal
(28:57):
to Broward.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know, it doesn't matter who you are, but they
they're a big city.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, fort Lauderdale was like that, yeah
and and Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wilk Manors was a little police department.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They all kind of knew each other.
They were all kind of cool.
Margate was a little policedepartment, they were cool.
Coral Springs wanted to beBroward, so bad.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Coral Springs was like militarized in 90s.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Before I forget, I want to ask you guys if you've
seen this.
I watched a video the other dayand it was the first time that
I've actually been taken abackby the creator of the simpsons.
Now he's done some crazy shit,oh and everybody thinks he's a
time traveler.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right predictive, the predictive programming that
stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Did you see the video I sent you?
Patty, you sent me a video Isent you a video.
I think it was on facebook, socheck this out oh, okay, I know,
this is different than anyother thing that matt groney has
done.
Usually what matt groney does,he portrays something that
happens in the future.
Right, right, right, okay,right down to lisa being kamala.
(30:15):
Like everything that happens inthe simpsons is a depiction of
a future event coming right, butnot this one.
This is Marge herself.
Recently, I think within thelast year, they have uncovered
(30:35):
this sarcophagus with thispainting.
The painting is an Egyptian,yellow Egyptian woman in a
chartreuse green dress with agiant blue high top spade or one
(30:56):
of these pieces that they worein Egyptian, but it's the same
color blue that Mars had To hidetheir cone heads or to hide
their long skull, yeah, to hidewhatever the long skull.
So this depiction, this pieceof art on this sarcophagus is
identical to marge simpson.
So now they're like how wouldmatt groney have this just got
(31:21):
uncovered, the simpsons?
They've been out for you knowdecades.
Like how would he have?
Now we're going to the past,right.
Well, what?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
but it was still a present day discovery.
So it was a present daydiscovery of this thing in the
sarcophagus which looks likemarge simpson.
So it is a very, very old thing, but it's a recent discovery.
So it's something that happensnow.
Well, something that thathappens in present day, you know
, like the event of finding itis present day.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it's a really really old but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Matt Groney's already had Margaret Simpson painted
right, Right, right so I mean,it's still the same, as you know
, the depictions of all of thethings in the future.
This just so happens to be anevent where something ancient is
discovered.
I think that's, you know,that's just kind of, that's kind
of interesting.
(32:13):
So they're still using, I think, the same, whatever it is,
whatever technology is beingused by the Simpsons, all kinds
of the Sims, the people who puttogether the Simpsons there are
all kinds of theories about itum, they are, were able to kind
of um, see this event in thefuture where this thing was
(32:34):
discovered, and so you know somarch.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I used to be, I used to be so embarrassed about the
simpsons as a kid and I was liketeased and I had like trauma
because I had the same name asthe Simpsons.
But I loved them, I alwaysloved.
I loved every episode.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I didn't think about that, talked about such real
stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I mean it was really bad.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I was really really picked on my last name rhymed
with fucker, so I don't feelback.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, actually, when when I would tell people that I
was from springfield, they wouldautomatically assume that it
was assume yeah, they were so,because springfield wait is that
where the simpsons is?
Or is that, yeah, yeah that'swhere the simpsons are right, so
people would assume that it wasthe same springfield.
But that's interesting.
I grew up in a town, wellthere's five springfields there
is in the country.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, and and it's, and it's a consistent battle
with all of them, on which oneis yeah, my friend lives in
springfield missouri, yeah, yeah, and, and you know what's
really funny is matt groeningkind of ties the architecture
and the landscape of all five ofthem into the show.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
So you don't really know you gotta guess yeah and he
won't say exactly what it isNow.
Have you, enoki?
Have you ever looked into thisis something maybe I did at one
time and forgot but have youlooked into this person who
these cities were named for?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
no.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Springfield, because all of these are we forget that
all of these names, Springfield,but I don't know who they were
actually named for I think allof them were named for the same
person.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Simpsons do make a very big deal about the founder
of Springfield and there areseveral episodes about how he
was a really corrupt guy,because everybody honored him or
whatever, and then theystumbled across.
You know some real shit fromhim.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I can't remember what it was.
I think it would be worthlooking into the actual person
that's like in the early seasons, the early seasons of Jedediah
Springfield.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But he is brought up and he's got a big statue and it
is a big centerpiece of thetown in all of their things.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Does he wear a raccoon hat in the statue?
Yeah, he wears a raccoon hat.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Does he wear a raccoon hat?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Jedediah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Springfield has a raccoon hat.
He looks like Daniel Boone andhe's got a shotgun in his hand
and there's some critters on hislittle statue and I mean I'm a
big fan.
Like I said, I had a lot oftrauma about it, but it made me
look at it and it made me sinkinto it.
(35:30):
And then, you know now, likeyou know because because I would
watch it, you know pretty,pretty much like live in it, you
know, and so so I would see thesynchronicities and things back
when, before it became a bigdeal, you know, before people
were talking about I'm like oh,but before everything was a
conspiracy.
Yeah, I was like oh, but isn'tthat like this?
You know, I was probably likeone of those little voices.
(35:50):
They are feeding theconspiracies, because that's I
think, I do that, I think I dothat, you know, but I think
about things you know and it'sjust a thought.
You know, I don't need to getall crazy about it, you know,
but but I have that thought andI'm prepared for it if it
happens.
But it's just a thought.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, and the Simpsons, they haven't been 100%
but it's been.
A lot of that stuff has reallycome true.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, they wouldn't be able to give 100%, because
that would be way too.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That would be yeah, when you look at.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Edgar Cayce, you look at all these profit people.
You look at all these profitpeople and it's not the same,
because there's no way toiterate things that don't exist
yet sometimes.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's not based on probability.
Things are always changing.
There are a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's like saying Notre Dame is saying these giant
metal birds, he doesn't knowwhat a fucking airplane is.
That makes a lot of sense, thegiant metal bird yeah, you know,
yeah, it's the same thing asit's yeah okay, what did the
mayans say?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
the mayans said that lines would cover.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, right, okay, so are we talking about power
lines?
Are we talking about chemtrails?
What lines are we talking about?
Because there's plenty of themto choose from.
The metal birds are it's, it'sthere, it's it they just didn't
have words for it yet yeah, youknow.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And the same thing with mac roney.
You know, mac roney doesn'tknow what he's saying, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
But he's saying what comes to him you know well, the
video I watched was essentiallysaying that mac roney was
reincarnated and that all ofthese you know celebrities are
reincarnated and they just keepreincarnating in places of power
, um, in every lifetime, and sothey have this ability to like,
show us glimpses of how theyknow um and so I mean, it was it
(37:38):
was a little out there.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It was a little aloof but history repeats itself.
The past can show you thefuture you know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, that was the whole point.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
And you know, I also say people say oh, celebrities
are the ones that arereincarnated.
We're all, but we're allreincarnated multiple times.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
My cousin.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
My cousin was a was a hawk in one life, like it took.
It took like a whole sessionand a half just to figure out
what she was in that session.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You know that's so funny.
You say that because every timeI've ever read brian weiss I
started reading brian weiss at12 years old and I always said
to myself you know, it's amazingthe way that we can collaborate
these past life stories and and, and be able to actually know
such intricate details that wecan put a time stamp on it.
(38:28):
But oh, it gives me goosebumps.
But what about our lifetimes asanimals?
And I don't know?
I think I spoke on this brieflyrecently but it was me talking
to nani and realizing thehawaiian, the hawaiian version
of, of, you know, integratinginto reincarnation.
Before christianity hit thoseislands, you didn't reincarnate
(38:52):
into a human, you reincarnatedinto the animal that you
connected with in your lifetimethat tattoo of moana's
grandmother with the stingray onit, and then she became a
stingray.
That was that's how thehawaiians, that that was their
belief system.
But I always found that to bevery interesting, considering
(39:14):
all of the research I had doneon reincarnation never included
reincarnating into animals.
But it's very clearly a thing,but our memory doesn't hold it
the same right, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Mm-hmm.
See, I think that I coulddefinitely connect to animals
when I was younger, andsometimes connecting to animals
was what would take me astralout of whatever I was in.
Yeah, yeah, that would be ableto allow me to astral travel and
I would run like I was ananimal.
(39:50):
Yes, you could connect to themand I would connect with them
because I was animalistic in asense.
I was running to run, I wasbreathing it in, I was feeling
everything around me, you know,while I did it, you know, and
(40:11):
then I never stopped.
But when I would stop I wouldjust absorb so much, you know
and then.
I just run with that.
You know that I just, I didn't,I didn't.
I feel like being able, you,you know, connecting with all of
the animals and thinking of allthe animals and then trying to
(40:32):
connect this, like human body,to those animal natures and
stuff.
You know, like I, growing up Iloved, like the jungle book, you
know.
So I would jump around on trees, you know, and I would I, I
would.
I climbed the telephone polesin my trees, you know, and I
would, I would, I'd climb thetelephone poles in my
neighborhood, you know, and allthe other kids would be like
what you know?
(40:52):
And I'd be like, look, it'sjust you know.
Putting one hand over the otheryou know, and having your body
out like the sea, you know.
But I'd watch things and I'dthink of things, you know, and
I'd feel those things when Iwould.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, it's very to see, I think, animal
consciousness and I just find itreally interesting.
It's like utilizing.
So if, when you connect with,like, the consciousness of an
animal, it's very much aboutusing the senses and it's
unmitigated by language, likethere's so much about our
(41:28):
language that limits ourexperience.
So we use this language andeverything has to have a word
for it and everything.
And the way that we communicateis with language.
But that's not how animalscommunicate, Matter of fact,
they're more telepathic, youknow.
So these animal communicators,for instance, which I really do
believe in, they'recommunicating telepathically.
(41:51):
So somehow they've tapped intothis capacity to communicate
telepathically.
And, Taylor, I think some ofthose experiences that you've
shared with me when you talkedabout like connecting with the
hawk in your backyard and theconsciousness of the hawk and
these different animals, I thinkit was all very telepathic and
there was no human languageassociated.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
So that was kind of no that I, literally I asked
this hawk to drop a feather.
I was moving and this hawk,yeah, a pet to me.
I named him chicken and he wasmy baby and he would come every
day and hang out with my chicken.
And then I knew we were movingand I really just enjoyed him so
much and I was like I'm gonnamiss you.
(42:33):
I'm just thinking this, I'm notsaying this out loud, I'm
looking at him through a windowand I think, god, if you could
just leave me one feather sothat I could always have
something to remember you by.
And if no sooner did I thinkthat thought he ruffled his
feathers and shook.
And if no sooner did I thinkthat thought he ruffled his
feathers and shook and droppedone singular wing feather and I
watched it go like this into myyard off the power line and I
(42:56):
was like oh my gosh, Thank you.
Thank you so much, but yeah, Imean, and that's why, like you
know, like spiritual, teachersand everything.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Believing is magic.
Well, I'm telling you, yes, yes, and I was going to say that
that's why a lot of spiritualteachers will say you know, look
, if you want to be grounded, ifyou want to be centered, if you
want to connect more, get outin nature, get around animals,
so nature, animals, et cetera,because that's where we can go
(43:30):
beyond the mind, that's where wecan go beyond language and
connect, you know, to our higherselves and to kind of higher
consciousness, without ourlanguage interfering, you know,
in our thoughts, you know in ourintellect interfering with, um,
that kind of, that kind ofconnection.
(43:52):
So being around animals, youjust see how, you know, we are
like I need to um, you know I'min the present now and it's all
about the now and it's thepresent now and we do all these
meditations and everything.
Then you look at your pet.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Your pet is always in the now and it's like they're
not meditating.
Yeah, just as you realize, like, oh, we all have these things
that we do, you know, that areour purpose in life.
Know that it's not as complexas we're making it out to be.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We're just a part of it too, you ever look at
somebody and know their animal,like their, their centered
animal, like you ever just like.
You're walking on the streetand you're like they're a
fucking hawk, they're a fuckingwolf, that's a fucking.
You ever do that Like you canjust see.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That looks like a praying mantis.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes, I'm like dude, that guy is a straight up lombat
, like unbelievable, but peopledon't realize like they're like
oh well, my spirit animal, andyou know we've gotten so caught
up in.
You know this and you knowwe've gotten so caught up in,
(45:22):
you know this.
You know this place where we'retaking and pulling from other
cultures and whatnot, and it allbecomes just so superficial and
it all becomes just sosuperficial.
The be-all, end-all is thatanciently, many cultures knew
about our connection to theanimal kingdom, and even in
Neanderthal times you had topick a spirit animal.
Now, back in Neanderthal times,a woman's spirit animal had to
(45:46):
be weaker than a man, or theybelieved that the man wouldn't
be able to procreate With aman's spirit animal.
Had to be stronger in order forhis spirit to overcome hers,
for her to hold a baby.
That's what Neanderthalsbelieved.
So all the way from that time,we've been pulling the strength
(46:09):
of these animals into our beingsand calling them into our soul.
So as much of a culturalappropriation it is to say the
term spirit animal, look pastthat with me and and understand
that our connection to animalsis ancestral.
(46:29):
Yeah, so no matter, no matterwhere, no matter where you are
in the world, no matter whereyou are whatever culture you're
in, there's always.
I think that's why I was soshell shocked being in
California because there wereanimals I had never, ever
encountered in the wild, right,um, but yeah, there is a way to
(46:52):
connect to, to this deeper inner, knowing that we are attached
to specific animals, some morethan others, and and
individually, um.
What animal connects to you andhow can you research or connect
with that animal, um knowingmore about it, or, or or you
(47:15):
know what it stands forspiritually, what it means and
how you can?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
work that magic and medicine into your life.
Yeah, you can do that with,with, with, all animals.
It's like that's what I loveabout that you know the language
of many of the Native Americanswho say my relations, my many
of the Native Americans who saymy relations my relations with
the animal kingdom.
I mean, I'm just saying, likeyou, can we have relations with
(47:44):
all you know, if we can?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
kind of it evolves, it evolves and it's also a
little circumstantial well,we've evolved away from it,
though animals that you carry,but it's, you know, for some
people know, like I can't Icannot pick one animal Exactly
(48:06):
that I connect to.
You know more.
Every time I've thought thatthat was the animal, that was
the animal of that time.
You know for me.
You know because later onanother animal will come into my
life and be more present andmore there and carry more energy
(48:28):
or save me from more things.
You know that that I feel likeall of them are important to me,
you know, and that there's notone that I would put above any
other, because it's all the same, it's all in the moment yeah.
(48:49):
There are specifics that aresupposed to be.
you know, yeah, I feel like, thethings that I need, the
medicines that I need, thepeople, you know, the people,
the animals, they all come to mewhen, when I need them or they
need me.
You know, like, because it'snot just what we take from
(49:10):
nature, you know, we also givenature, you know, things back,
and sometimes just lettingnature be nature in our space,
you know, and sharing that spacewith nature is a gift to nature
too.
You know, absolutely Like, butwe're all a part of the same
thing.
You know, we're all here and apart of it, and we're all
(49:35):
connected.
we're all here and I'm part ofit and we're all connected, and
and it just depends on on, youknow what connections you
recognize in that moment youknow, but but you know that's
why some, some people you knowit's so hard for them to
understand you know that thereare people that need to relocate
bugs and people that want tostep on them, you know, yeah
(49:59):
that was wayne dyer who got meto never kill a bug again he
said yeah, like he was dying andhis daughter came into his
apartment in in hawaii and hesaid to his daughter I will not
live in a bug cemetery, Do notkill a bug in my dwelling.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
And I just thought how funny is that you know, like
, this is not a cemetery for mysix-legged friends.
I just thought that that was sothoughtful.
But yeah, and traditionalindigenous beliefs in America
were that we had seven or nine.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, and they can change too.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And they don't have to.
Yeah, but there is one thatsits with you, but it doesn't
mean that it's always the sameor that you can't connect.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I mean, that's exactly what you're saying.
I feel like it's the one thatmore people see in you.
You know that one okay thatmakes sense.
That's the one that is morerecognizable all the other ones,
you know, are medicines thatyou're carrying with you at the
time in your life.
You know, I mean, and it's veryit's very much.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I mean, it's like everything.
It's like there are people whocome in and out of your life.
There are encounters that youhave that are, you know that,
that are impactful, you knowbetween with humans that you
know happen at this one, thathappened at this moment, and
then you know, and then it'sdifferent as as you move on, and
I think interactions thathappen with humans, just like
(51:37):
animals.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Patty right, exactly Like that stranger that you walk
past and you make eye contactwith and you don't understand
why it was so powerful in thatmoment.
But it was a past lifeconnection and you don't even
understand it in this lifetime,but all you had to do was was
make that eye contact, and thatwas all that was needed between
(51:58):
those two souls like you justnever know, and so it's just
better to be open to thoseexperiences.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
they're all around us positivity, then seek for
negativity absolutely now,before we pull a card.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Can I just share something really, really special
with you guys, because I'm kindof excited about it yeah, so
you know how I always have tohave something kind of creative
going on in my life and if itinvolves we know if it involves
food even better.
All right, I'm there so, andbecause I've been on this health
(52:29):
, I've been on this healthjourney right.
I've been exploring all ofthese different kind of
alternative, holistic healthkinds of things.
I've been discovering the magicand the importance of raw milk,
and so I've decided that I'mgoing to be making raw milk
(52:54):
products, and so I am.
Now.
I'm just holding it up for youguys to see.
I am now officially a cheese,I'm a cheese maker.
So it's my first one, it's myfirst I know I'm going to give
you a piece, but we have to waitbecause it needs about three
(53:15):
months.
So you know we can't do it, butI'd like to make some.
This is cheddar, so I lovecheddar.
So I'm going to be making rawmilk cheddar and I'm also
exploring other cheeses.
I got a book, I'm watchingvideos and I have a little farm.
She said raw milk.
(53:35):
I said where's your cheesecloth?
The reason why I decided to doit this way I do have
cheesecloth is that one of thewomen that I looked at she said
this is how I age my cheese.
It's just, it's kind offoolproof.
So you do vacuum, vacuum sealand you put it in the
(53:55):
refrigerator and it might take alittle bit longer but it's.
It's like safer and there'sless risk for stuff to grow on
it and stuff like that.
I was like yeah, that sounds,that sounds right, so I have, I
have a drawer in my refrigeratorthat I want to fill with all of
these, these little cheesewheels, and maybe I'll
experiment with like one withjalapeno and yeah, bacon cheddar
(54:20):
bacon, jalapeno cheddar.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Exactly.
So I'm going to have a lot offun with that and I'll share
that.
Yep, so I'm going to make maybesome ricotta.
You know, maybe my own yogurt.
I'd love to you know, my ownice cream at some point.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
You know, especially if I'm going to have company.
You know, if a no keys comingover, I might want to somewhere.
If you come over to tell mewhen an OK.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, so anyway, let's go on.
We're going to pull a card nowand this is for you know what,
what might inspire us the mostas we move into the you know,
the weeks ahead, and these are.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Are these the same cards as you had?
These are the archetypes again.
Yeah, I pulled these againbecause I did my own reading
yesterday and it was so, oh, itwas, um, I'll have to do a
reading for both of you.
Um, from the, from the, thereading that I did.
It's called um, just bear withme.
The reading that I did.
It's called, just bear with me,the reading that I did
(55:19):
yesterday.
I've never done before and itwas so whole, fully encompassing
and everything I needed.
It's called the Axis Mundi,okay, and so it essentially
looks like this Okay.
And it gives you your underworld, your past, your heaven, your
(55:41):
future and yourself.
It was the most beautiful fivecar spread I've ever done.
It was really everything Ineeded, everything I needed.
So, anoki, tell me when to stop, when, when?
Speaker 2 (56:01):
oh, you already said when, sorry, and here yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, that's this one,yeah, that's the one we think.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Anyway, I don't know this fell out, so we're gonna.
We've pulled, one pulled itself.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
So Inoki, which one pulled itself by the way.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
The kiss is what Inoki called Okay.
And then the pilgrim pulleditself.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Is the pilgrim upside down?
Speaker 2 (56:40):
I don't know if it can be upside down, if it's
round.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So, these go like if they're turned a certain way,
but the pilgrim is a really it'smore of an abstract card.
Yeah, so you've got a mountainwith an eye.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Eye from the dollar and then some sort of shield
Bondage, bondage over a shield.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
So the kiss is a tool , a tool, a tool All the things
that we use every day, that aretools.
It's love.
Love is such a great tool, butthe kiss, the kiss can be many
things.
The kiss, the touch, thechemistry, the sex.
(57:28):
Before first kiss, the air iselectrified, each breath is
alive with the possibility andmagic.
What will their lips be like?
Their tongue?
Do they want me and return?
The archetypal energy of thekiss is a heightened sensation
of merging with others, ofletting in what moments ago was
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separate to become one.
It is risky but beautifulbusiness.
These moments forever change usas we move past the solidarity
self towards union andacceptance.
This card suggests trueintimacy is around the corner,
which requires bravery andsurrender.
When the kiss takes a non-humanform, it may be experienced as
touching the sacred, hearing awhisper or being graced by the
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divine being.
So think about a kiss from theuniverse, yeah, or a kiss
between animals when you'reinteracting in yes
you will recognize, and anawakening of your heart.
So it's very much the samething because you feel that same
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awakening in your heart.
Intimacy is multi-layered andrequires reflection, revisit
what you consider to be sensual,taboo, acceptable or shameful,
and write down the story of yourfirst kiss, what was changed in
that moment.
And then I'm just going to hitup the pilgrim real quick to see
if there's that's beautiful,anoki some information about the
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pilgrim in here for us, becausethe pilgrim is the traveler, is
the apprentice, is the one who.
The pilgrim is the gypsy.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Well, yeah, but also the experiences you have along
the way and look for places ofbeauty and settling yeah go down
and have your kiss pilgrims areassociated with spiritual
journeys.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like people make pilgrimages to deepen whatever
faith they follow make sure youcan follow coelho yeah,
absolutely, you know um.
So I I was really um intriguedby the pilgrim card because I
feel like we're all right there,yeah.
(59:54):
Yeah, and in a way we're allkind of dealing with this
certain moment in our journeywhich is which is one of the you
know.
maybe you were talking abouttests before, yes, and it's kind
of like.
This does seem like a testingmoment or a testing place along
the journey of our pilgrimages.
(01:00:14):
Anyway, those are my thoughts,thoughts, but what does it say
for your sats?
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
spiritual attainment test.
Wow, just figure that out offthe top of my head, guys, sorry.
The wanderer, the traveler, theapprentice.
For the pilgrim, an outwardjourney is always an inward
journey.
This archetypal wanderer seekswisdom, experience and meaning
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in the farthest reaches of theglobe and the deepest regions of
the spirit.
Others will wonder when thepilgrim will settle down and
claim a more conventional life,but the pilgrim knows that the
heart belongs in motion.
Where there is motion, there ismotion.
There is freedom, expansion andgrowth.
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Responsibilities, socialconventions and logistics lull
us to sleep and soon the pilgrimbecomes veiled in the slumber
of the day.
Today.
Yet when this archetype awakens, it rallies our senses of
adventure and leads us out thedoor towards a new reality.
With the pilgrim at your side,you will never lack courage.
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Nor do you need every amenity.
Travel, light, travel.
Soon.
Your spirit needs it.
Even in the stillness ofmeditation, the pilgrim feels
the movement of the hearttowards what it loves.
We all have a deep longing toanswer the call to get unstuck.
What are the obstacles betweenyou and the door?
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Get out there and get some medicine.
Yeah, absolutely, find someanimals.
Go find some animals.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Go connect to nature.
You know, unplug from all of thestuff flying at us that's
making people so cray cray andget out there.
Get out there in nature, Getout there around animals and
tune into your heart.
You know, I think that's whatit's saying.
It's like when was the lasttime we tuned into our heart?
Let's get out of our heads.
Listen with your heart.
I think that's what it's saying.
When was the last time we tunedinto our heart?
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Let's get out of our heads.
Listen with your heart.
Let's get the heck out of ourheads.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
My heart is crazy, you guys.
I don't know if I trust her.
You have a chaotic heart.
She be wilding.
I'm like girl, are you sure?
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Are you sure, girl?
Are you really sure?
Well, you know, it's always alesson in that too.
Well, that's awesome.
So we've got.
We've got the kiss.
You know, um, looking for manydifferent levels of intimacy and
touch, being touched in manydifferent ways, you know, maybe
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being touched by nature, beingtouched by the animals around us
, and seeing the divine in allof that and, you know, following
our heart, you know it's, it'sreally, I think, right now, all
of humanity is for.
For us, it's like, like it's apilgrimage of the heart.
It's like moving from the headto the heart may be the most
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challenging pilgrimage for allof us, and I think we're we're
in the midst of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Honestly, that's poetic justice buddy oh well,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I'm just cheesy like that, get it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
God.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
She's the cheesiest.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I'm cheesy like that.
Anyway, this has been so muchfun.
I am going to make somemozzarella and provolone.
They're a little morechallenging, but I'm going to
and I'll show you when I do andthen okay.
So when are we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
an in person.
An in person podcast with allthree of us eating cheese and
you're living right now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I'm feeling a pilgrimage to Patty's and okay,
you know, I'm saying well ifwe're gonna have a cheese party,
how you already said, is threemonths.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I'm sorry okay, you know I want to.
I want to make sure that thethe cheddar is aged.
I want to make sure I haveenough.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Like to know I wanted to be, I wanted to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
But we could, just I want to have a whole cheese
spread meaning look, you guyscan.
We can do this anytime you wantand I'll have food for you and
if it includes, cheese, that'sawesome but whatever, so we'll
figure it out, it's definitelygoing to be.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
but let's have Patty as a friend is like one of she's
one of my, my jewels that Ihold onto so dearly.
Like having her as a friend isso precious, but having her feed
you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, and it's a you know, and I gotta tell you it's
a joy for me.
Talk about following your heart, talk about being in your heart
and doing something, becauseyou know, like, when you're
really in your heart, whateverit is you're doing, it's going
to give you joy and chances are,it's going to give other people
joy.
So I do know that when I cook,preparing food and feeding
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people, it's something that'sdefinitely in in my heart.
I am totally in my heart whenI'm doing it and that's why, you
know, that's why it's such ajoyful experience for for all of
us, and I think the energeticsof that, yeah, good, good.
Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
The way that Patty served food and all of the
energy that she put in those andthen to then be the person
serving it out to the world andwatching the joy spread like
some contagion Fascinating, yeah.
But you know, we all can dothat.
I mean, we all do that in ourown way.
Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Like Taylor, you do it and Noki, you do it, you know
, we all do it.
I mean we all do that in ourown way, Like Taylor, you do it,
and Noki you do it, you know,we all do it.
I mean food happens to be oneof my, my, my mediums, you know,
along with teaching.
But a Noki, one of your mediumsis, is music, obviously, and
other ways that you, you reachpeople and spread the love and
the joy.
(01:06:10):
And Taylor, you too, I meanlike you know what I mean, Like
we all have our ways of doingthat.
And I think I think at thispoint, just going back to the
cards, at this point, it'sreally about all of us
discovering and really embracingthe ways that we can be heart
centered in all of the thingsthat we do throughout the day.
(01:06:30):
And if we can do that, thenthink about the ways that we
touch people in our circle in away that radiates out right.
So that's really I mean honestly.
I think that talk aboutfocusing on the positive rather
than the negative and I thinkpeople are really excuse the
metaphor, but people are reallyhungry for those kinds of
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connections.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
She wasn't even trying to be cheesy that time I
wasn't even trying to be cheesy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I wasn't trying to help herself.
I'm just naturally cheesy.
Oh, I'm gonna have a lot of funwith this being cheesy, I think
.
Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
I can't wait to hear the name she comes up with for
this.
It's gonna be golden.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I got the cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Cheese.
I got the cheese.
Anyway, you guys, I love youguys so much.
I hope you have a great weekand I hope everybody out there
has a great week.
Think about the pilgrim, thinkabout the kiss and ways you can
incorporate it.
Get out in nature, connect withanimals, whether they're your
friends or the birds on your, inthe, in your backyard or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
We're not asking you to go for a six-mile hike into
the wilderness.
You can literally sit on yourfront porch.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
You can literally just Open your door.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Open your door.
Yeah, yeah, just open your doorand listen to the birds.
It doesn't have to be some.
You know Grass, just go touchgrass, tap in touch grass and
tap in.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I love you guys big love, big love to all of you.
See you next week.
Love ya, thank you.
All right well welcome and good morning.
Good morning, this is Patty,with Patty Talks Too Much and
I'm here with my dear friendsAnoki and Taylor and of course
we've already been chattingabout cool, cool technology like
.
But we're kind of a little allright, I'll speak for myself.
I'm a little jealous aboutinoki's ipad camera, auto focus
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thing that's going on over there.
That makes her look so dramaticand I just yeah, it's a
dramatic close-up anyway, itdramatic close up.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I didn't even make it , I didn't even set it as an
option.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean next time it does it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I need you to just be like sometimes.
I feel like somebody's watchingme, alright you guys have you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know I love chaos , right?
You know I love chaos, I livefor chaos.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
However, don't say that so you don't live, for I
mean like I like it, you handleit.
You can in chaos.
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But you don't want it all the time.
Well, maybe I don't want it allthe time.
All right, listen, let me justclarify this.
Ordering chaos cannot workwithout the other right.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
yes, I know you say this all the time sometimes one
tip right.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I've just noticed lately that there is a lot of
spontaneous chaos happening inthe lives of those around me.
Okay, and I don't want to labelanything as good or bad does it
have anything to?
do with you, um.
So so I'll give you an example.
(01:50):
The other day I was driving andit was raining, and I wasn't
driving my new car, I wasdriving the old car and I had
this, had a feeling come over me.
I will call call it intuition,and my intuition was that hold
on, I've lost a headphone heremy intuition was that I was
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going to get in a car accidentand so I was driving very
carefully to you know whatever Icould do to write that right.
I didn't want to get in a caraccident, obviously, but I could
feel that energy so I make ithome safe.
I'm like good, we're good,we're good.
Well, the next morning, patdrove um the new truck to work
(02:40):
and he was gonna drive the carthat I drove and he thought, you
know what it's raining and,unbeknownst to me, he had sensed
a car accident.
So he got on the truck.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
His GPS tried to get him to get off the highway, but
he got back on.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And he got in a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He got into a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
He was hurt, he's fine.
He's fine.
I mean, you know he got someserious whiplash.
The brand new truck is not okayShit.
But obviously all that mattersis that he's okay.
Nobody got hurt, he wasn't atfault.
So our car is going to getfixed.
(03:33):
But the chaos of the moment wasso intense, right, because I had
felt it coming, kat had felt itcoming.
We hadn't told each other thatwe both had this underlying
feeling of dread about a caraccident and then he ended up
getting in one.
Then the cop comes up to himbecause Pat the way Pat got into
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the car accident was he saw itcoming, so he tried to.
As he was getting hit frombehind, he tried to turn out of
the line.
Somebody stopped dead on thehighway up ahead so he tried to
get out of the line and shootthis way, but he still clipped
the car in front of him and thecar behind him hit him so hard
that it shot him out of theseven cars and way over here.
(04:22):
So when the cop showed up up,he accused pat of insurance
fraud and said I'll take you tojail for insurance fraud wait a
minute because he thought thatpat had caused the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, because he thought that pat just pulled
over on the side.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He was he was pulled over on the side of the road,
way out of the accident.
He could have said anything andbeen like, yeah, it was in the
accident.
I had this damage on my brandnew truck.
I just need coverage on it.
You know what I mean but hedidn't get shot out of it, but
he just got shot out now luckilysomebody had evidence, photo
evidence alongside thatcoincided with Pat's, you know
(05:05):
yeah right with with where pat'struck was wrecked, yeah, but
I'm like this is the third timethat that somebody in uh
enforcement or or or securityhas stopped you and tried to pin
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something on you.
I'm like the energy is justwild and and it's not just him,
I've noticed it at work too um,it's just, it's a lot.
It's a lot going on and it'salmost like I can laugh about it
.
But it's almost like these,these levels of tests.
You know there's tears to thesetests, and so some of us are
(05:52):
just continually getting testedright now and it can feel, it
can feel victimy, you know.
Yeah, it can feel like why isthis happening to me?
Me, you know.
Yeah, it can feel like why isthis happening to me?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
um, and we just have to remember that that the tests
come when the student is readyand and that you know there's a
purpose to all of it yeah, butyou know, I mean I also think
like in general, in general, andI mean I don't I don't disagree
with that at all, but likethere's in general, there's so
much more tension.
I think that there's moreacting out.
(06:29):
I think there are more peoplegoing off on other people, more
erratic driving.
I mean like people are kind ofthere are many different levels
of people losing their shit, youknow and it's expressed in a
different way.
Yeah, it's being expressed in adifferent way.
Yeah, it's, it's beingexpressed in in in so many
different ways.
And so I think it's kind of youknow and and I think it's good
(06:54):
that your intuition right now isvery, very strong, because I
think it'll help you and Patnavigate some.
You know, some things that youknow some of the cray cray out
there.
You know, because you kind ofwant to stay clear of the cray
cray and sometimes you can andsometimes you can't.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, sometimes it's your partner and sometimes you
have to just.
You know that it's not.
You know I can be here, butlike this is your battle, you
know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like I can't fight this fight for you.
Yeah, I think a lot ofinteractions, you know, with
everybody on an individual level, instead of people like
expecting the good in otherpeople, you know, like, and then
the bad being being like somekind of a shock, people like
normalize the bad and arelooking for the bad in people
(07:52):
and not expecting good in peopleat all, and then being shocked
when they come across somethinggood.
And it sucks that it's that way, you know, because it used to
be such a shock when somebodywould do something, when
something bad would happen, whensomething would go on, you know
(08:12):
, and, and now you know, peopleare like oh, you know, that
happened to this person or this,you know, or you know like like
pat's interaction with thepolice officer, you know the
police officer I probablyexperienced that 10 other times
before and he did.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
He apologized to pat at the end of it all the way
over here, but actually, youknow, connected to it he said he
had a thing for insurance fraud, and pat was like I have all
this proof, where there's allthis proof, and so he did end up
apologizing and pat did end upobviously not being at fault,
but, um, and those are thosemoments where it's like, am I
(08:53):
going to keep my composure?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
yeah, because if I don't, keep my composure.
Oh, you're screwed, oh yeah youhave to like normalize that Like
it sucks because you have toexpect that that cop is going to
try to, you know, find anythingthat he can, you know, because
that's his job.
You know, at this point, andthe world is more bad than it is
(09:16):
good, you know so where.
You know not everybody used to.
You know get full, you knowchecks, or you know everything
run you know every time that youknow get full, you know checks,
or you know everything run.
You know every time that youknow they had an out light, you
know how about that elderly?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
woman.
I mean the, the, the signs ofauthority are getting really
it's also a sign that I isgetting really authoritative,
because you know, that's onething, everybody expects that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
To shoot somebody outside.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, we're all waiting for it, you know,
because at this point many of usdon't trust law enforcement.
When you watch that video withthat elderly woman the other day
with the boiling pot of water.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I didn't see it either.
My kids were very, but I do haveto say I got pulled over last
week and, and, and you know itwas three o'clock in the morning
I take my partner to work real,real early.
You know.
I come back home, I sleep forlike another hour or two and
then I'm up, but, um, you know,so it's, it's the middle of the
(10:27):
night.
You know, I take her to workevery day in the same way.
I take her down there and Idrop her off and I'm heading
home.
I've got night is in the backor whatever, and uh, you know I
see a police officer.
I'm always doing this, evenlike, because I sing this little
I ain't got no cheap money songeverywhere I go and yeah.
(10:49):
I would cross this bridge and Isee the silhouette of this
police officer pulled over, so Imake sure I get over, you know.
So I'm not in the lane rightnext to him when I pass him and
boom, he turns his lights on,pulls right up behind me and I'm
and I don't know why, becausethis hasn't happened to me in a
long time my last fewinteractions with police
officers I was I was okay, youknow, like, like, but this time
(11:12):
like and I didn't have there'snothing wrong with my car, you
know nothing.
I wasn't speeding, you know.
I've got my son with me.
I don't have any kind of youknow anything at all.
I don't drink, you know.
So there's no possibility ofthe day before you know, nothing
, you know.
So he pulled me over and, forwhatever reason, my heart rate
shot up to like 150 oh, I'm sure, of course I had my, I had my
(11:36):
fitbit on, but I but I was okayand he was really nice and he
gave me a warning and he didn'tdo anything, what?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What was the warning for?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So both of my tag lights were out and they were
and he said you don't have anytag lights.
And I was like nothing.
He's like no, I guess I hadn'tnoticed, you know, but we have
to slam my trunk for it to close, right.
So I think it probably wassomething to do with banging it
(12:06):
closed all the time.
You know that just made themshort out or whatever, but
anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That is the most bullshit excuse to get pulled
over in the first place.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I thought for sure, I was like that is a late word.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I looked at him.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, I looked at him and I was like both them are
out.
And he's like yeah, he's likeyou don't have anything back
there, and I was like okay, Iwas like no, no, I was like okay
, well, I'll get it fixed rightaway.
I'm a clinton tech, so I'lljust change the bulbs.
Um, you know, hopefully it'sjust that, but both of them are
(12:43):
out.
Maybe it's a fuse, you know.
Well, he went back to the carand he ran my stuff, you know.
And then he came back to the carand he was like oh, I'm just
gonna give you a verbal warning,you know, go get them fixed,
you know, and I was like thankyou so much, because in my head
I'm still singing my I ain't gotno ticket money song, you know,
(13:05):
and I'm just thinking, oh mygod, it's like three hundred
dollars, you know, there's somany things that I need.
Yeah, yeah, they're less thanthree hundred dollars right now.
You know that I'm working hardfor, and now that puts them even
further you know.
So so it it it was, you know, Idon't know.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was a really easy reason to pull you over.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, yeah, and that's kind of that's what
happens.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It was really nice.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, I mean because they, you know I could have been
some bad guy you know, and hecould have pulled me over for
the tag light and then stoppedsomething else really bad from
happening.
Yeah, you know, because, likeyou know, that's just what it is
, but that's because the worldis sacred man yeah, the world is
expecting this, this negativething, to happen, but you don't
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know why that cop stopped you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You don't know what you missed in that five minutes
ten minutes that you were pulledover.
You know we really have tounderstand that synchronicity
and divine timing play a roleevery moment of our lives yeah,
I mean it could be an accidentat the light right up ahead of
me you know, if I wasn't over onthe side or a deer, you know,
(14:17):
could have run out exactly justlike what happened to your
partner.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But you know, I mean like driving, driving at three
in the morning, I think is likethey're all you know.
If there are cops out on thestreet they're.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's um automatically suspect of people
who are out at that hour, ohyeah I told him, you know, I was
taking my partner to work.
You know like he.
He was like okay, you know heran my, my information, but my,
my florida tag has my bald oneaddress.
(14:54):
So he was like, he was like.
He was like at first he was alittle suspicious of of my
florida tag when I told him Ilived there, but then he
realized he's like oh, because Ihave a residence at both places
so I can do that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But I don't have to pay that adverdum or whatever
tax that they have here inGeorgia only where you pay the
full sales tax for your vehicleat purchase price, not your
purchase price, but at purchaseprice, not Kelly Blue Book not
kelly blue book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to.
I had to do that when Iregistered.
But yeah, and I think it's it'strue.
(15:35):
I mean it's the synchronicityand it's it's just kind of like
keeping our heads on straight,um, and keeping ourselves
centered during this during thistime, because everybody is on
edge, everybody's on edge.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Law enforcement is on edge.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, I think everybody is on edge.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So, they're a part of it.
Yeah, they're a part ofeverybody, you know.
My uncle has family to go hometo my uncle had family to go
home to.
My cousin had family to go hometo.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I have you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
My uncle used to do Georgia Avenue in Palm Beach.
That was his beat for like 20years, yeah, and so you know,
know, so he expects a lot ofnegative things in life, you
know.
But he's seen a lot of negativethings and I think that's the
(16:35):
point of it.
You know, like TV, everything,all of it.
You know, we went from you knowBeverly Hillbillies and you
know Little House on the Prairieto you know Beverly Hillbillies
and you know Little House onthe Prairie to you know, this is
what we're going to talk aboutand do now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You know yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So this little old lady the other day called the
cops because she thought therewas somebody in her apartment.
The cops show up, they enterher dwelling.
She's cooking a pot of boilingwater on the stove and the cop
says something along the linesof move your fucking hands off
(17:18):
the pot or I'm going to shootyou in the fucking face.
Okay, this woman is like in her80s.
Okay, little black lady, she'scooking on the stove.
It turns out the woman is umparanoid, schizophrenic.
So she called for help becauseshe felt like somebody was
(17:44):
around her or in her place,right.
So when she, when the cop saysthat to her, she puts her hands
up with the two potholders inher hands and she says I rebuke
you in the name of Jesus.
And she just sinks down withthe two potholders in her hands
and crouches in the corner.
(18:05):
And he came around the cornerand he shot her in the fucking
hand.
Are you kidding me?
No, warning, no, just fuckingkilled her.
Four shots, three or four shots.
And they called his partner,came around the corner to get
you know, to call for anambulance, and he said it's a
fucking headshot, dude, long ofthe short, this particular where
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was this, by the way?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
what state was this?
I don't remember you don't knowwhere in the country?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
no, it wasn't in the country I'm sure, if I know,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What do you mean?
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It wasn't in the united states, oh, no, yes, I
thought you meant like thecountry.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, no, I mean the state, what?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
state was it in?
I'm not sure what state it was,but it was definitely in our
country.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's not in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's not in the country.
What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Was that so?
But what did you mean?
It seemed like it was an urbansetting, that this took place
Like in a city.
You know, I'm not quite sure itwas.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It was an apartment.
So I think, yeah, maybe I thinkso, but long of the short this
particular officer had had likefour.
He had been to four differentpolice departments in the matter
of five years due to all of his, uh, crass decision making.
Yeah, so he had just beenpassed along he had just been
(19:39):
passed along and two duis toboot.
So these are the people thatare our authoritators.
You know, like it's just, it'sreally hard.
Well, he was a psycho.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He was a psycho who shouldn't have been a police
officer.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I mean, like I wouldn't, I don't like to know
it was in Illinois.
Chicago, her name.
Her name was Sonia Massey Sonia, yeah, sonia Massey.
The deputy involved was DeputySean Grayson and he was charged
(20:12):
with murder after shooting herthree times in the head.
She was not a little old lady,though.
She was 36 years old.
36 years old is what it says.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, she had her two kids there, that's right.
So she wasn't an old lady.
She looks very elderly in thevideo so she must have really
been hunched over, because whatI saw she looked elderly.
So I'm sorry about the wronginformation.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No, no, no, no, there were two children too.
Yeah, in the video two deputiesare seen in the intense
encounter.
It doesn't say that she called,but oh yeah, sonia Massey
(21:02):
called the emergency line toreport a potential prowler at
her residence in Springfield,illinois.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Springfield, illinois , mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I have another random thing to share.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hold on just before we move on to that.
So the thing is is like yeah,there are psychos, you know who
should never, who should nothave had, not have a badge
should not be ever right, thereare psychos like that.
But I also have nephews, all allyou know.
I'm all but one of my nephewsas a police officer and these
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are, these are upstanding,they're in the military, they're
upstanding kids who care a lotabout their community and would
never in a million years treatsomeone like that.
And so I just think like we canmake you know, like I always
hesitate about making blanketstatements about law enforcement
, because there are some reallyreally good, really good, and
(21:59):
they want to do the right thingby the people.
They want to do the right thingby the community.
You know they've got their ownfamilies, they've got babies on
the way.
These are, you know, these areguys who you know they've got
their own families, they've gotbabies on the way.
These are, you know, these areguys who you know they love life
and they love children and theyprotect women and they want to
do the right thing in thecommunity and they would never,
ever, ever do something likethat.
(22:21):
And I think, unfortunately,psychos like that make, you know
, make it hard for all of them,because you know, I don't think
that we can, at this point inour, at this point, eliminate
all police because, you know,because something, we really
need them sometimes.
(22:42):
You know, sometimes there'ssome shit going down and we need
to call if they were properlytrained's not bad.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If they were properly trained in healthcare, if they
were properly trained in mentalhealthcare.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
These types of instances wouldn't be happening
as much.
You know they're doing thatwith teachers.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They have a right along psychologist they should?
There's so much so much there.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
and it's a team, and the reason I brought this up is
is to give you a variation of ofwhat a cop that realized he was
wrong and had the ability toapologize over over assumptions
with Pat she.
Cops that don't makeassumptions, they just assume
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that their immediate triggerresponse is correct.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That was psycho, though there's a big variation.
He's a psycho cop.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
As far as authority goes, there is a spectrum.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, okay, sure, as you know, as far as authority
goes, there is a spectrum rightyeah okay, sure, that's like.
I think that it was a.
You know, it's really important, you know to say that just last
week with the georgia statepatrol officer.
I had a positive interaction.
He was nice, he was respectful,I was.
I was totally panicked, for noreason, you know like the, the.
(24:09):
I Was the weird one in thatsituation, you know, like and,
and I came home it.
Well, it wasn't like he wasn'tlooking, he pulled you.
Yeah, he was so nice.
You know, you know yeah but Ilet myself Get like that, you
know, and then try to not youknow.
You know, yeah, but I letmyself get like that.
(24:30):
You know and I try to not youknow assume the worst of any
situation you know.
But but you know, there's stillmoments where where I do too,
you know and I'm glad that thathe wasn't a bad guy, that he was
a good guy, that he was a goodpolice officer, that he did his
job.
He checked out my stuff.
(24:50):
I did have something wrong withmy car you know like it was
three o'clock in the morning,you know, but, but, but I felt
like I have something to work onthere with that and then I
needed to acknowledge the factthat it was a good interaction
with a police officer just doinghis job, you know.
(25:12):
And so there are really goodpolice officers out there that
do just that what they're thereto do, to protect, to serve, to
check anything that might besuspicious.
You know, like my car's gotstickers all over it it's not
the best condition, you know.
I've got tinted windows Likeit's all black.
Like you know it's threeo'clock in the morning, like
(25:36):
there was reason, you know, forhim to stop me.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, to wonder what was going on.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
For me to panic, because I could have fed some
kind of panic in him too.
You know like our emotionsspread to the people around us,
you know, like, which is why youknow a lot of the times people
like they keep to themselvesbecause there's a lot going on
in the world, you know and nomatter what, when you're out and
(26:01):
you're interacting, you'reexperiencing it.
You're experiencing throughyour friends.
You're experiencing justlooking at.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I've never not been able to be pulled over by the
police without experiencing itlike I wasn't white.
Now let me, let me.
Let me stand correct when I saythis.
I am fully aware of whiteprivilege and what it does for
me when I get pulled over by thepolice.
I am fully aware.
However, I still don't feellike a white person.
When I get pulled over, Iimmediately panic, I immediately
(26:31):
my heart rate shoots throughthe roof, I out of my ignition
and I put them on my dashboard.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
My car is turned off my music is turned off.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I do not play about getting pulled over by the
police.
It makes me very nervous, butthat is because every time I was
pulled over as an adolescent Iwas treated a specific way.
It was because I hung out onWashington and Latona and when I
(27:05):
got pulled over it was why thefuck are you in this
neighborhood and who do you knowthat's Black?
That's how I was raised, so Iimmediately get pulled over and
feel some type of way because asan adolescent I was never
treated by the police properly.
I was beat up by the police.
The Lake Worth Police Departmentwas.
(27:25):
So what's the word?
I'm looking for corrupt itwasn't like it was so corrupt
that when they got me finallygot me in the lake worth police
department no adult present theykept me in that room for seven
hours questioning me abouteverybody I knew in Lake Worth
(27:49):
and and the guys, what, whatwould, this person was doing and
who they ran with and whatquestions that I didn't even
know the answers to and theywould not let me go um but they
were all corrupt back then inthe early 2000s, and so that was
what I learned of cops, and soit's, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Lantana.
It was a really little town,and so it wasn't as corrupt as
corrupt, you know yeah, but theywere still dicks.
That worked for Lantana tooyeah, but but for the most part
and I get that we were hoodlumkids, I get that and you weren't
, you know, then they were allright, you know, and they'd just
(28:33):
talk to you or tell you to gohome, you know, or whatever like
, for the most part, they wouldtell you to go home, but I have
also experienced.
You know was was stupid, butwhatever, so though Broward was
was rough.
Any interactions with Broward,you know everybody's a criminal
(28:57):
to Broward.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know, it doesn't matter who you are, but they
they're a big city.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, fort Lauderdale was like that, yeah
and and Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wilk Manors was a little police department.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
They all kind of knew each other.
They were all kind of cool.
Margate was a little policedepartment, they were cool.
Coral Springs wanted to beBroward, so bad.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Coral Springs was like militarized in 90s.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Before I forget, I want to ask you guys if you've
seen this.
I watched a video the other dayand it was the first time that
I've actually been taken abackby the creator of the simpsons.
Now he's done some crazy shit,oh and everybody thinks he's a
time traveler.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right predictive, the predictive programming that
stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Did you see the video I sent you?
Patty, you sent me a video Isent you a video.
I think it was on facebook, socheck this out oh, okay, I know,
this is different than anyother thing that matt groney has
done.
Usually what matt groney does,he portrays something that
happens in the future.
Right, right, right, okay,right down to lisa being kamala.
(30:15):
Like everything that happens inthe simpsons is a depiction of
a future event coming right, butnot this one.
This is Marge herself.
Recently, I think within thelast year, they have uncovered
(30:35):
this sarcophagus with thispainting.
The painting is an Egyptian,yellow Egyptian woman in a
chartreuse green dress with agiant blue high top spade or one
(30:56):
of these pieces that they worein Egyptian, but it's the same
color blue that Mars had To hidetheir cone heads or to hide
their long skull, yeah, to hidewhatever the long skull.
So this depiction, this pieceof art on this sarcophagus is
identical to marge simpson.
So now they're like how wouldmatt groney have this just got
(31:21):
uncovered, the simpsons?
They've been out for you knowdecades.
Like how would he have?
Now we're going to the past,right.
Well, what?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
but it was still a present day discovery.
So it was a present daydiscovery of this thing in the
sarcophagus which looks likemarge simpson.
So it is a very, very old thing, but it's a recent discovery.
So it's something that happensnow.
Well, something that thathappens in present day, you know
, like the event of finding itis present day.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it's a really really old but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Matt Groney's already had Margaret Simpson painted
right, Right, right so I mean,it's still the same, as you know
, the depictions of all of thethings in the future.
This just so happens to be anevent where something ancient is
discovered.
I think that's, you know,that's just kind of, that's kind
of interesting.
(32:13):
So they're still using, I think, the same, whatever it is,
whatever technology is beingused by the Simpsons, all kinds
of the Sims, the people who puttogether the Simpsons there are
all kinds of theories about itum, they are, were able to kind
of um, see this event in thefuture where this thing was
(32:34):
discovered, and so you know somarch.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I used to be, I used to be so embarrassed about the
simpsons as a kid and I was liketeased and I had like trauma
because I had the same name asthe Simpsons.
But I loved them, I alwaysloved.
I loved every episode.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I didn't think about that, talked about such real
stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I mean it was really bad.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I was really really picked on my last name rhymed
with fucker, so I don't feelback.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, actually, when when I would tell people that I
was from springfield, they wouldautomatically assume that it
was assume yeah, they were so,because springfield wait is that
where the simpsons is?
Or is that, yeah, yeah that'swhere the simpsons are right, so
people would assume that it wasthe same springfield.
But that's interesting.
I grew up in a town, wellthere's five springfields there
is in the country.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, and and it's, and it's a consistent battle
with all of them, on which oneis yeah, my friend lives in
springfield missouri, yeah, yeah, and, and you know what's
really funny is matt groeningkind of ties the architecture
and the landscape of all five ofthem into the show.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
So you don't really know you gotta guess yeah and he
won't say exactly what it isNow.
Have you, enoki?
Have you ever looked into thisis something maybe I did at one
time and forgot but have youlooked into this person who
these cities were named for?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
no.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Springfield, because all of these are we forget that
all of these names, Springfield,but I don't know who they were
actually named for I think allof them were named for the same
person.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Simpsons do make a very big deal about the founder
of Springfield and there areseveral episodes about how he
was a really corrupt guy,because everybody honored him or
whatever, and then theystumbled across.
You know some real shit fromhim.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I can't remember what it was.
I think it would be worthlooking into the actual person
that's like in the early seasons, the early seasons of Jedediah
Springfield.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But he is brought up and he's got a big statue and it
is a big centerpiece of thetown in all of their things.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Does he wear a raccoon hat in the statue?
Yeah, he wears a raccoon hat.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Does he wear a raccoon hat?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Jedediah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Springfield has a raccoon hat.
He looks like Daniel Boone andhe's got a shotgun in his hand
and there's some critters on hislittle statue and I mean I'm a
big fan.
Like I said, I had a lot oftrauma about it, but it made me
look at it and it made me sinkinto it.
(35:30):
And then, you know now, likeyou know because because I would
watch it, you know pretty,pretty much like live in it, you
know, and so so I would see thesynchronicities and things back
when, before it became a bigdeal, you know, before people
were talking about I'm like oh,but before everything was a
conspiracy.
Yeah, I was like oh, but isn'tthat like this?
You know, I was probably likeone of those little voices.
(35:50):
They are feeding theconspiracies, because that's I
think, I do that, I think I dothat, you know, but I think
about things you know and it'sjust a thought.
You know, I don't need to getall crazy about it, you know,
but but I have that thought andI'm prepared for it if it
happens.
But it's just a thought.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, and the Simpsons, they haven't been 100%
but it's been.
A lot of that stuff has reallycome true.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, they wouldn't be able to give 100%, because
that would be way too.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That would be yeah, when you look at.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Edgar Cayce, you look at all these profit people.
You look at all these profitpeople and it's not the same,
because there's no way toiterate things that don't exist
yet sometimes.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's not based on probability.
Things are always changing.
There are a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's like saying Notre Dame is saying these giant
metal birds, he doesn't knowwhat a fucking airplane is.
That makes a lot of sense, thegiant metal bird yeah, you know,
yeah, it's the same thing asit's yeah okay, what did the
mayans say?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
the mayans said that lines would cover.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, right, okay, so are we talking about power
lines?
Are we talking about chemtrails?
What lines are we talking about?
Because there's plenty of themto choose from.
The metal birds are it's, it'sthere, it's it they just didn't
have words for it yet yeah, youknow.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And the same thing with mac roney.
You know, mac roney doesn'tknow what he's saying, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
But he's saying what comes to him you know well, the
video I watched was essentiallysaying that mac roney was
reincarnated and that all ofthese you know celebrities are
reincarnated and they just keepreincarnating in places of power
, um, in every lifetime, and sothey have this ability to like,
show us glimpses of how theyknow um and so I mean, it was it
(37:38):
was a little out there.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It was a little aloof but history repeats itself.
The past can show you thefuture you know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, that was the whole point.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
And you know, I also say people say oh, celebrities
are the ones that arereincarnated.
We're all, but we're allreincarnated multiple times.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
My cousin.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
My cousin was a was a hawk in one life, like it took.
It took like a whole sessionand a half just to figure out
what she was in that session.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You know that's so funny.
You say that because every timeI've ever read brian weiss I
started reading brian weiss at12 years old and I always said
to myself you know, it's amazingthe way that we can collaborate
these past life stories and and, and be able to actually know
such intricate details that wecan put a time stamp on it.
(38:28):
But oh, it gives me goosebumps.
But what about our lifetimes asanimals?
And I don't know?
I think I spoke on this brieflyrecently but it was me talking
to nani and realizing thehawaiian, the hawaiian version
of, of, you know, integratinginto reincarnation.
Before christianity hit thoseislands, you didn't reincarnate
(38:52):
into a human, you reincarnatedinto the animal that you
connected with in your lifetimethat tattoo of moana's
grandmother with the stingray onit, and then she became a
stingray.
That was that's how thehawaiians, that that was their
belief system.
But I always found that to bevery interesting, considering
(39:14):
all of the research I had doneon reincarnation never included
reincarnating into animals.
But it's very clearly a thing,but our memory doesn't hold it
the same right, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Mm-hmm.
See, I think that I coulddefinitely connect to animals
when I was younger, andsometimes connecting to animals
was what would take me astralout of whatever I was in.
Yeah, yeah, that would be ableto allow me to astral travel and
I would run like I was ananimal.
(39:50):
Yes, you could connect to themand I would connect with them
because I was animalistic in asense.
I was running to run, I wasbreathing it in, I was feeling
everything around me, you know,while I did it, you know, and
(40:11):
then I never stopped.
But when I would stop I wouldjust absorb so much, you know
and then.
I just run with that.
You know that I just, I didn't,I didn't.
I feel like being able, you,you know, connecting with all of
the animals and thinking of allthe animals and then trying to
(40:32):
connect this, like human body,to those animal natures and
stuff.
You know, like I, growing up Iloved, like the jungle book, you
know.
So I would jump around on trees, you know, and I would I, I
would.
I climbed the telephone polesin my trees, you know, and I
would, I would, I'd climb thetelephone poles in my
neighborhood, you know, and allthe other kids would be like
what you know?
(40:52):
And I'd be like, look, it'sjust you know.
Putting one hand over the otheryou know, and having your body
out like the sea, you know.
But I'd watch things and I'dthink of things, you know, and
I'd feel those things when Iwould.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, it's very to see, I think, animal
consciousness and I just find itreally interesting.
It's like utilizing.
So if, when you connect with,like, the consciousness of an
animal, it's very much aboutusing the senses and it's
unmitigated by language, likethere's so much about our
(41:28):
language that limits ourexperience.
So we use this language andeverything has to have a word
for it and everything.
And the way that we communicateis with language.
But that's not how animalscommunicate, Matter of fact,
they're more telepathic, youknow.
So these animal communicators,for instance, which I really do
believe in, they'recommunicating telepathically.
(41:51):
So somehow they've tapped intothis capacity to communicate
telepathically.
And, Taylor, I think some ofthose experiences that you've
shared with me when you talkedabout like connecting with the
hawk in your backyard and theconsciousness of the hawk and
these different animals, I thinkit was all very telepathic and
there was no human languageassociated.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
So that was kind of no that I, literally I asked
this hawk to drop a feather.
I was moving and this hawk,yeah, a pet to me.
I named him chicken and he wasmy baby and he would come every
day and hang out with my chicken.
And then I knew we were movingand I really just enjoyed him so
much and I was like I'm gonnamiss you.
(42:33):
I'm just thinking this, I'm notsaying this out loud, I'm
looking at him through a windowand I think, god, if you could
just leave me one feather sothat I could always have
something to remember you by.
And if no sooner did I thinkthat thought he ruffled his
feathers and shook.
And if no sooner did I thinkthat thought he ruffled his
feathers and shook and droppedone singular wing feather and I
watched it go like this into myyard off the power line and I
(42:56):
was like oh my gosh, Thank you.
Thank you so much, but yeah, Imean, and that's why, like you
know, like spiritual, teachersand everything.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Believing is magic.
Well, I'm telling you, yes, yes, and I was going to say that
that's why a lot of spiritualteachers will say you know, look
, if you want to be grounded, ifyou want to be centered, if you
want to connect more, get outin nature, get around animals,
so nature, animals, et cetera,because that's where we can go
(43:30):
beyond the mind, that's where wecan go beyond language and
connect, you know, to our higherselves and to kind of higher
consciousness, without ourlanguage interfering, you know,
in our thoughts, you know in ourintellect interfering with, um,
that kind of, that kind ofconnection.
(43:52):
So being around animals, youjust see how, you know, we are
like I need to um, you know I'min the present now and it's all
about the now and it's thepresent now and we do all these
meditations and everything.
Then you look at your pet.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Your pet is always in the now and it's like they're
not meditating.
Yeah, just as you realize, like, oh, we all have these things
that we do, you know, that areour purpose in life.
Know that it's not as complexas we're making it out to be.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We're just a part of it too, you ever look at
somebody and know their animal,like their, their centered
animal, like you ever just like.
You're walking on the streetand you're like they're a
fucking hawk, they're a fuckingwolf, that's a fucking.
You ever do that Like you canjust see.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That looks like a praying mantis.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes, I'm like dude, that guy is a straight up lombat
, like unbelievable, but peopledon't realize like they're like
oh well, my spirit animal, andyou know we've gotten so caught
up in.
You know this and you knowwe've gotten so caught up in,
(45:22):
you know this.
You know this place where we'retaking and pulling from other
cultures and whatnot, and it allbecomes just so superficial and
it all becomes just sosuperficial.
The be-all, end-all is thatanciently, many cultures knew
about our connection to theanimal kingdom, and even in
Neanderthal times you had topick a spirit animal.
Now, back in Neanderthal times,a woman's spirit animal had to
(45:46):
be weaker than a man, or theybelieved that the man wouldn't
be able to procreate With aman's spirit animal.
Had to be stronger in order forhis spirit to overcome hers,
for her to hold a baby.
That's what Neanderthalsbelieved.
So all the way from that time,we've been pulling the strength
(46:09):
of these animals into our beingsand calling them into our soul.
So as much of a culturalappropriation it is to say the
term spirit animal, look pastthat with me and and understand
that our connection to animalsis ancestral.
(46:29):
Yeah, so no matter, no matterwhere, no matter where you are
in the world, no matter whereyou are whatever culture you're
in, there's always.
I think that's why I was soshell shocked being in
California because there wereanimals I had never, ever
encountered in the wild, right,um, but yeah, there is a way to
(46:52):
connect to, to this deeper inner, knowing that we are attached
to specific animals, some morethan others, and and
individually, um.
What animal connects to you andhow can you research or connect
with that animal, um knowingmore about it, or, or or you
(47:15):
know what it stands forspiritually, what it means and
how you can?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
work that magic and medicine into your life.
Yeah, you can do that with,with, with, all animals.
It's like that's what I loveabout that you know the language
of many of the Native Americanswho say my relations, my many
of the Native Americans who saymy relations my relations with
the animal kingdom.
I mean, I'm just saying, likeyou, can we have relations with
(47:44):
all you know, if we can?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
kind of it evolves, it evolves and it's also a
little circumstantial well,we've evolved away from it,
though animals that you carry,but it's, you know, for some
people know, like I can't Icannot pick one animal Exactly
(48:06):
that I connect to.
You know more.
Every time I've thought thatthat was the animal, that was
the animal of that time.
You know for me.
You know because later onanother animal will come into my
life and be more present andmore there and carry more energy
(48:28):
or save me from more things.
You know that that I feel likeall of them are important to me,
you know, and that there's notone that I would put above any
other, because it's all the same, it's all in the moment yeah.
(48:49):
There are specifics that aresupposed to be.
you know, yeah, I feel like, thethings that I need, the
medicines that I need, thepeople, you know, the people,
the animals, they all come to mewhen, when I need them or they
need me.
You know, like, because it'snot just what we take from
(49:10):
nature, you know, we also givenature, you know, things back,
and sometimes just lettingnature be nature in our space,
you know, and sharing that spacewith nature is a gift to nature
too.
You know, absolutely Like, butwe're all a part of the same
thing.
You know, we're all here and apart of it, and we're all
(49:35):
connected.
we're all here and I'm part ofit and we're all connected, and
and it just depends on on, youknow what connections you
recognize in that moment youknow, but but you know that's
why some, some people you knowit's so hard for them to
understand you know that thereare people that need to relocate
bugs and people that want tostep on them, you know, yeah
(49:59):
that was wayne dyer who got meto never kill a bug again he
said yeah, like he was dying andhis daughter came into his
apartment in in hawaii and hesaid to his daughter I will not
live in a bug cemetery, Do notkill a bug in my dwelling.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
And I just thought how funny is that you know, like
, this is not a cemetery for mysix-legged friends.
I just thought that that was sothoughtful.
But yeah, and traditionalindigenous beliefs in America
were that we had seven or nine.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, and they can change too.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And they don't have to.
Yeah, but there is one thatsits with you, but it doesn't
mean that it's always the sameor that you can't connect.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I mean, that's exactly what you're saying.
I feel like it's the one thatmore people see in you.
You know that one okay thatmakes sense.
That's the one that is morerecognizable all the other ones,
you know, are medicines thatyou're carrying with you at the
time in your life.
You know, I mean, and it's veryit's very much.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I mean, it's like everything.
It's like there are people whocome in and out of your life.
There are encounters that youhave that are, you know that,
that are impactful, you knowbetween with humans that you
know happen at this one, thathappened at this moment, and
then you know, and then it'sdifferent as as you move on, and
I think interactions thathappen with humans, just like
(51:37):
animals.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Patty right, exactly Like that stranger that you walk
past and you make eye contactwith and you don't understand
why it was so powerful in thatmoment.
But it was a past lifeconnection and you don't even
understand it in this lifetime,but all you had to do was was
make that eye contact, and thatwas all that was needed between
(51:58):
those two souls like you justnever know, and so it's just
better to be open to thoseexperiences.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
they're all around us positivity, then seek for
negativity absolutely now,before we pull a card.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Can I just share something really, really special
with you guys, because I'm kindof excited about it yeah, so
you know how I always have tohave something kind of creative
going on in my life and if itinvolves we know if it involves
food even better.
All right, I'm there so, andbecause I've been on this health
(52:29):
, I've been on this healthjourney right.
I've been exploring all ofthese different kind of
alternative, holistic healthkinds of things.
I've been discovering the magicand the importance of raw milk,
and so I've decided that I'mgoing to be making raw milk
(52:54):
products, and so I am.
Now.
I'm just holding it up for youguys to see.
I am now officially a cheese,I'm a cheese maker.
So it's my first one, it's myfirst I know I'm going to give
you a piece, but we have to waitbecause it needs about three
(53:15):
months.
So you know we can't do it, butI'd like to make some.
This is cheddar, so I lovecheddar.
So I'm going to be making rawmilk cheddar and I'm also
exploring other cheeses.
I got a book, I'm watchingvideos and I have a little farm.
She said raw milk.
(53:35):
I said where's your cheesecloth?
The reason why I decided to doit this way I do have
cheesecloth is that one of thewomen that I looked at she said
this is how I age my cheese.
It's just, it's kind offoolproof.
So you do vacuum, vacuum sealand you put it in the
(53:55):
refrigerator and it might take alittle bit longer but it's.
It's like safer and there'sless risk for stuff to grow on
it and stuff like that.
I was like yeah, that sounds,that sounds right, so I have, I
have a drawer in my refrigeratorthat I want to fill with all of
these, these little cheesewheels, and maybe I'll
experiment with like one withjalapeno and yeah, bacon cheddar
(54:20):
bacon, jalapeno cheddar.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Exactly.
So I'm going to have a lot offun with that and I'll share
that.
Yep, so I'm going to make maybesome ricotta.
You know, maybe my own yogurt.
I'd love to you know, my ownice cream at some point.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
You know, especially if I'm going to have company.
You know, if a no keys comingover, I might want to somewhere.
If you come over to tell mewhen an OK.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, so anyway, let's go on.
We're going to pull a card nowand this is for you know what,
what might inspire us the mostas we move into the you know,
the weeks ahead, and these are.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Are these the same cards as you had?
These are the archetypes again.
Yeah, I pulled these againbecause I did my own reading
yesterday and it was so, oh, itwas, um, I'll have to do a
reading for both of you.
Um, from the, from the, thereading that I did.
It's called um, just bear withme.
The reading that I did.
It's called, just bear with me,the reading that I did
(55:19):
yesterday.
I've never done before and itwas so whole, fully encompassing
and everything I needed.
It's called the Axis Mundi,okay, and so it essentially
looks like this Okay.
And it gives you your underworld, your past, your heaven, your
(55:41):
future and yourself.
It was the most beautiful fivecar spread I've ever done.
It was really everything Ineeded, everything I needed.
So, anoki, tell me when to stop, when, when?
Speaker 2 (56:01):
oh, you already said when, sorry, and here yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, that's this one,yeah, that's the one we think.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Anyway, I don't know this fell out, so we're gonna.
We've pulled, one pulled itself.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
So Inoki, which one pulled itself by the way.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
The kiss is what Inoki called Okay.
And then the pilgrim pulleditself.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Is the pilgrim upside down?
Speaker 2 (56:40):
I don't know if it can be upside down, if it's
round.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So, these go like if they're turned a certain way,
but the pilgrim is a really it'smore of an abstract card.
Yeah, so you've got a mountainwith an eye.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Eye from the dollar and then some sort of shield
Bondage, bondage over a shield.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
So the kiss is a tool , a tool, a tool All the things
that we use every day, that aretools.
It's love.
Love is such a great tool, butthe kiss, the kiss can be many
things.
The kiss, the touch, thechemistry, the sex.
(57:28):
Before first kiss, the air iselectrified, each breath is
alive with the possibility andmagic.
What will their lips be like?
Their tongue?
Do they want me and return?
The archetypal energy of thekiss is a heightened sensation
of merging with others, ofletting in what moments ago was
(57:51):
separate to become one.
It is risky but beautifulbusiness.
These moments forever change usas we move past the solidarity
self towards union andacceptance.
This card suggests trueintimacy is around the corner,
which requires bravery andsurrender.
When the kiss takes a non-humanform, it may be experienced as
touching the sacred, hearing awhisper or being graced by the
(58:17):
divine being.
So think about a kiss from theuniverse, yeah, or a kiss
between animals when you'reinteracting in yes
you will recognize, and anawakening of your heart.
So it's very much the samething because you feel that same
(58:38):
awakening in your heart.
Intimacy is multi-layered andrequires reflection, revisit
what you consider to be sensual,taboo, acceptable or shameful,
and write down the story of yourfirst kiss, what was changed in
that moment.
And then I'm just going to hitup the pilgrim real quick to see
if there's that's beautiful,anoki some information about the
(59:03):
pilgrim in here for us, becausethe pilgrim is the traveler, is
the apprentice, is the one who.
The pilgrim is the gypsy.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Well, yeah, but also the experiences you have along
the way and look for places ofbeauty and settling yeah go down
and have your kiss pilgrims areassociated with spiritual
journeys.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like people make pilgrimages to deepen whatever
faith they follow make sure youcan follow coelho yeah,
absolutely, you know um.
So I I was really um intriguedby the pilgrim card because I
feel like we're all right there,yeah.
(59:54):
Yeah, and in a way we're allkind of dealing with this
certain moment in our journeywhich is which is one of the you
know.
maybe you were talking abouttests before, yes, and it's kind
of like.
This does seem like a testingmoment or a testing place along
the journey of our pilgrimages.
(01:00:14):
Anyway, those are my thoughts,thoughts, but what does it say
for your sats?
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
spiritual attainment test.
Wow, just figure that out offthe top of my head, guys, sorry.
The wanderer, the traveler, theapprentice.
For the pilgrim, an outwardjourney is always an inward
journey.
This archetypal wanderer seekswisdom, experience and meaning
(01:00:41):
in the farthest reaches of theglobe and the deepest regions of
the spirit.
Others will wonder when thepilgrim will settle down and
claim a more conventional life,but the pilgrim knows that the
heart belongs in motion.
Where there is motion, there ismotion.
There is freedom, expansion andgrowth.
(01:01:01):
Responsibilities, socialconventions and logistics lull
us to sleep and soon the pilgrimbecomes veiled in the slumber
of the day.
Today.
Yet when this archetype awakens, it rallies our senses of
adventure and leads us out thedoor towards a new reality.
With the pilgrim at your side,you will never lack courage.
(01:01:25):
Nor do you need every amenity.
Travel, light, travel.
Soon.
Your spirit needs it.
Even in the stillness ofmeditation, the pilgrim feels
the movement of the hearttowards what it loves.
We all have a deep longing toanswer the call to get unstuck.
What are the obstacles betweenyou and the door?
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Get out there and get some medicine.
Yeah, absolutely, find someanimals.
Go find some animals.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Go connect to nature.
You know, unplug from all of thestuff flying at us that's
making people so cray cray andget out there.
Get out there in nature, Getout there around animals and
tune into your heart.
You know, I think that's whatit's saying.
It's like when was the lasttime we tuned into our heart?
Let's get out of our heads.
Listen with your heart.
I think that's what it's saying.
When was the last time we tunedinto our heart?
(01:02:18):
Let's get out of our heads.
Listen with your heart.
Let's get the heck out of ourheads.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
My heart is crazy, you guys.
I don't know if I trust her.
You have a chaotic heart.
She be wilding.
I'm like girl, are you sure?
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Are you sure, girl?
Are you really sure?
Well, you know, it's always alesson in that too.
Well, that's awesome.
So we've got.
We've got the kiss.
You know, um, looking for manydifferent levels of intimacy and
touch, being touched in manydifferent ways, you know, maybe
(01:02:58):
being touched by nature, beingtouched by the animals around us
, and seeing the divine in allof that and, you know, following
our heart, you know it's, it'sreally, I think, right now, all
of humanity is for.
For us, it's like, like it's apilgrimage of the heart.
It's like moving from the headto the heart may be the most
(01:03:21):
challenging pilgrimage for allof us, and I think we're we're
in the midst of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Honestly, that's poetic justice buddy oh well,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I'm just cheesy like that, get it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
God.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
She's the cheesiest.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I'm cheesy like that.
Anyway, this has been so muchfun.
I am going to make somemozzarella and provolone.
They're a little morechallenging, but I'm going to
and I'll show you when I do andthen okay.
So when are we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
an in person.
An in person podcast with allthree of us eating cheese and
you're living right now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I'm feeling a pilgrimage to Patty's and okay,
you know, I'm saying well ifwe're gonna have a cheese party,
how you already said, is threemonths.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I'm sorry okay, you know I want to.
I want to make sure that thethe cheddar is aged.
I want to make sure I haveenough.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Like to know I wanted to be, I wanted to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
But we could, just I want to have a whole cheese
spread meaning look, you guyscan.
We can do this anytime you wantand I'll have food for you and
if it includes, cheese, that'sawesome but whatever, so we'll
figure it out, it's definitelygoing to be.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
but let's have Patty as a friend is like one of she's
one of my, my jewels that Ihold onto so dearly.
Like having her as a friend isso precious, but having her feed
you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, and it's a you know, and I gotta tell you it's
a joy for me.
Talk about following your heart, talk about being in your heart
and doing something, becauseyou know, like, when you're
really in your heart, whateverit is you're doing, it's going
to give you joy and chances are,it's going to give other people
joy.
So I do know that when I cook,preparing food and feeding
(01:05:21):
people, it's something that'sdefinitely in in my heart.
I am totally in my heart whenI'm doing it and that's why, you
know, that's why it's such ajoyful experience for for all of
us, and I think the energeticsof that, yeah, good, good.
Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
The way that Patty served food and all of the
energy that she put in those andthen to then be the person
serving it out to the world andwatching the joy spread like
some contagion Fascinating, yeah.
But you know, we all can dothat.
I mean, we all do that in ourown way.
Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Like Taylor, you do it and Noki, you do it, you know
, we all do it.
I mean we all do that in ourown way, Like Taylor, you do it,
and Noki you do it, you know,we all do it.
I mean food happens to be oneof my, my, my mediums, you know,
along with teaching.
But a Noki, one of your mediumsis, is music, obviously, and
other ways that you, you reachpeople and spread the love and
the joy.
(01:06:10):
And Taylor, you too, I meanlike you know what I mean, Like
we all have our ways of doingthat.
And I think I think at thispoint, just going back to the
cards, at this point, it'sreally about all of us
discovering and really embracingthe ways that we can be heart
centered in all of the thingsthat we do throughout the day.
(01:06:30):
And if we can do that, thenthink about the ways that we
touch people in our circle in away that radiates out right.
So that's really I mean honestly.
I think that talk aboutfocusing on the positive rather
than the negative and I thinkpeople are really excuse the
metaphor, but people are reallyhungry for those kinds of
(01:06:54):
connections.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
She wasn't even trying to be cheesy that time I
wasn't even trying to be cheesy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I wasn't trying to help herself.
I'm just naturally cheesy.
Oh, I'm gonna have a lot of funwith this being cheesy, I think
.
Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
I can't wait to hear the name she comes up with for
this.
It's gonna be golden.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I got the cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Cheese.
I got the cheese.
Anyway, you guys, I love youguys so much.
I hope you have a great weekand I hope everybody out there
has a great week.
Think about the pilgrim, thinkabout the kiss and ways you can
incorporate it.
Get out in nature, connect withanimals, whether they're your
friends or the birds on your, inthe, in your backyard or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
We're not asking you to go for a six-mile hike into
the wilderness.
You can literally sit on yourfront porch.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
You can literally just Open your door.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Open your door.
Yeah, yeah, just open your doorand listen to the birds.
It doesn't have to be some.
You know Grass, just go touchgrass, tap in touch grass and
tap in.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I love you guys big love, big love to all of you.
See you next week.
Love ya, thank you.
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