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July 16, 2025 32 mins

What do you do when the person causing the most stress at work is your boss? In this eye-opening episode, Paul Butler flips the script on leadership and explores how to “lead up the chain.” Through real stories and hard-earned wisdom, Paul shares how to influence difficult leaders, create meaningful partnerships, and grow your own leadership without a title. If you've ever felt stuck under bad management—this one’s for you.

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