All Episodes

January 17, 2023 48 mins

Dr. J. Marion Sims is hailed as the Father of Modern Gynecology. But his reputation was built through inhumane experiments on enslaved young women. We talk with “creative extremist” Michelle Browder, who exposes the truth about Sims, the racism of the medical profession, and using art as a form of reparations.

SHOW NOTES

Guest: Michelle Browder

Michelle is a dynamic artist and activist based in Montgomery, Alabama. Her work exposes our true history, empowers youth, and honors those who have been ignored. For her groundbreaking “Mothers of Gynecology” sculptures, Michelle was a USA Today 2022 Women of the Year selection.

Highlights of episode:

[0:37] Adam & Tony on anti-Black racism in the U.S. medical profession

[6:47] Michelle on Anarcha, Lucy and Betsey

[11:01] Michelle on Sims’s experiments 

[14:30] Michelle on her creative process for the “Mothers of Gynecology”

[25:46] Michelle on exposing Alabama’s injustices against Native Americans

[29:53] Michelle on racism in the medical profession and need for a reckoning

[42:46] Tony & Adam on Michelle’s upcoming Mothers of Gynecology Health & Wellness Center


Michelle’s Homepage


Donate to Michelle’s work


"Mothers of Gynecology” 


Michelle’s recommended reading on racism and Black people’s health:


Contact Tony & Adam

Transcript of this episode

Subscribe

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Cardiac Cowboys

Cardiac Cowboys

The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.