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The Peace & Prosperity Podcast is a bi-weekly conversation with Jason Phillips, LCSW, licensed therapist and confidence expert in Raleigh, NC, discussing all things related to self-love and self-confidence, and how we can improve ourselves personally and professionally.

A bold question at a Georgia club—“Which one of y’all like me?”—sparked a love story rooted in faith, purpose, and self-work.

In this episode, we unpack heartbreak, healing, and how confidence grows from clarity. From Detroit roots to comedy grind, we explore what it means to “know” your person—not by checklist, but by alignment.

Think of love as a pyramid: God at the top, you and your partner climbing your own sides through gratitude, boundaries, and inner peace. When you can source joy within, you stop chasing it through people or applause.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
One of her friends is like, excuse me?
Like, man, you a bit confident,ain't you?
I said, It is what it is.
And that was coming from agenuine place.
It wasn't like I was cocky.
Right.
It was like, look, which one ofy'all like me?
Messing around, joking.
Right, right.
You just me and you.
Just being me.
Yeah.
And they like, oh, well, what heis he serious?

SPEAKER_01 (00:24):
Welcome to the Peace and Prosperity Podcast, where we
talk mental wellness,confidence, and real life tools
to help high achievers thrive.
I'm your host, Jason Phillips,licensed therapist, speaker,
coach, and I'm glad you're here.
Let's get into the episode.
You asked me questions the otherday.

(00:46):
I'm like, oh yeah, that's right.
You engaged now.

SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm engaged.
Happily engaged.
That's one thing is to beengaged, but to be happily
engaged, no whole nother level.
I didn't know you were marriedbefore.
Yeah.
How long?
Well, did I what?
Was you married before?
Six months.
Oh.
I should have got it, what theycall it, Nolan board or how long
ago was that?
Ooh, we got married in 2008.

(01:09):
So 2008.
8808.
So I think we got divorced inlike 2009.
Okay.
Okay.
You know, so yeah.
So I mean that the process tookforever, but that we was over
with, you know.
Oh, put it this way, she had ababy by that process during that
time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24):
So, and it wasn't yours.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Absolutely wasn't.
So, man, Cliff, you how old now?
I am 30.
What?
Shit, 43.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33):
You see, I you did the Benjamin button.
You're about to try to go back.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
Right.
What a lie.
No, 43, man.
Just turned 43, April, April,Ave.

SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Man, congratulations to on being engaged and about to
be married.
Because a lot of men and peoplein general, they feel like once
they hit a certain age, likeit's not for them.
Did you ever have that thought?
Or were you always looking?
What was that like for you?

SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
Well, my focus was I wasn't looking for it.
Like I told you, you knew who mywife was.
My wife was my comedy.
You know, and nothing steered meaway from that.
Like, I mean, there's been girlsthat wanted to get into
relationships with me.
Oh, we could be together, wecould do this, or we could.
I said my kids is back in inGeorgia.
I gotta get back.
Like in real time.

SPEAKER_01 (02:14):
How did you know your wife was your future wife?
How did you know she was theone?
Like, tell tell me how that waswhen you met her.

SPEAKER_00 (02:21):
Well, I knew she was the one.
It's a language without sayinganything.
It was an energy, you know, andI had to study.
Remember, I was telling you likeearlier about as far as knowing
who you are as an individual.
I know what I can put up with.
I know what I, a strong woman,kind of have to deal with me.
I could be everywhere.
I can be, you know, this wholeRubik's Cube.
But it takes a special woman toput it, you know, and having

(02:42):
time and patience to figure thiscube out.

SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
Now tell me the story on how y'all met.

SPEAKER_00 (02:47):
Oh, we actually met, we was actually at a club out
here in in uh Georgia.
All right.
So we just met.
It was like three of hergirlfriends.
And then I was like, hey, howy'all doing?
Which one of y'all like me?
I was like, get this out theway.
And she was like, one of herfriends was like, excuse me?
Like, dang, you a bit confident,ain't you?
I said, it is what it is.

(03:07):
And that was coming from agenuine place.
It wasn't like I was cocky.
Right.
It was like, look, which one ofy'all like me?
Messing around, joking.
Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 (03:15):
You just being you.

SPEAKER_00 (03:16):
Just being me.
Yeah.
And they like, oh, what he is heserious?
I'm like, no, I'm really joking,but which one of y'all like me?
So then her girl was like, well,my friend.
She's uh no, she was like, Whereyou from?
I said, I'm from Detroit.
And she said, for real?
She said, My friend fromDetroit.
She said, For real?
I said, Where?
She said, Here we was like, Whatup, dog?

(03:36):
We hit it off.
And it was just like, what?
Ballrooming.
I took it by the hand and Isaid, Follow me.

unknown (03:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:42):
And then for her to reach out her hand and took, I
was like, Yeah.
And I was like, wow.
I mean, smell so good.
I was like, duh.
We was dancing.
I did like that.
I did one of them movies.
I was dancing with her.
I was like, I smelled, I waslike, you smell like a wife.
She was like, what?

(04:02):
Nothing.
Sorry.
I just true story.
I was like, you smell like awife.
I said, oh my God.
And it was just, it waseuphoria.
You can't make that up.
It was one of the greateststories of my life.
And just for it to be a lovestory that the world, it still
exists out here.
You just got to know who you areas an individual.

SPEAKER_01 (04:20):
What were some of the traits that you were looking
for and you knew, like, okay, Idone found her?

SPEAKER_00 (04:25):
It's you can't explain that.
Because once you, what you youknow what you you can wish for,
but sometimes just becauseyou're wishing for something,
that don't mean that you needit.
I know what I needed.
God knew what I needed.
So I was trusting God.
It ain't had nothing to do withthe person who whoever it was,
because God gonna make that wifefor you.
But it was just, and she wasfrom the D.

(04:46):
Oh, it was over with.
Man, that was that's heavybecause it ain't up to me.
God gonna put that woman in mylife.
God knows what I need.
So if I stay closer to God, Iknow what.
Ooh, that was good.
Ooh, that was good.
Yeah.
If I stay closer to God, Godknows what I need, and He's
gonna put him in my life, andit's gonna shine like a diamond.
And that's who that woman, thatwoman was, is, and in the

(05:06):
future.
You said that.
My name is Town.
Shout out to Talon and my wife.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
You said something powerful, man.
You said that was everything,you had everything, but that was
the missing piece.
Yes.
You know, having having yourwife.
Like, how does it feel, man?
Like now, I've you know, I'vebeen married for going on 10
years next month, and I knowwhat it feels like for me.
Right.
What does it feel like for youstepping into this journey?

SPEAKER_00 (05:28):
It's it's I can't explain it.
It's not to be explained.
And that's what's wrong withpeople today.
We have to figure everythingout.
I got to a place in my lifewhere I don't know where I'll be
going some places, but God gotme.
My last name is God Bodo.
It's spelled G-O-D B O L D O.
I'm gonna say that again for youpeople that didn't get it.

(05:48):
G-O-D.
That's God.
Yeah.
B-O-L-D-O.
But the definition of life to meis perception.
So that's God's blood.
And my middle name is De Haven.
So y'all do the math on that.
So, regardless, if I was didn'tbelieve in God, which is a true
story.
I didn't believe in God.
I didn't understand it.
Grew up in Detroit.
God won't let his kids die likethis.

(06:10):
If I'm my best friend, he getsmurdered, execution style.
Why do I need to see that?
Like a lot of trauma.
So I'm like, this, if there is aGod, why would he let that
happen?
So why would he let that happenif there's a God?
So I said, you know what?
Regardless, if God was, if Ididn't believe in God, God was
always with me.
And it's my last name.

SPEAKER_01 (06:29):
When did the shift change for you to be a
non-believer to now a hugebeliever?
I can tell faith and God thatyou all go together.

SPEAKER_00 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, when you know where you'regoing in your life, and people
can tell you, they support you,but only for so long.
When all my accesses ran out tothe point where the faith, it
wasn't even about nothingtangible.
It was just the fact that peopledidn't believe in it and they
seeing it in front of theireyes.

(06:58):
So it's like somebody will goout.
If I'm showing, if I'm going outmy way to show you how much I
respect you, why would you goout your way to show me how much
you don't respect me?
That was intentional.
That was I was on purpose,intentional and deliberate at
the same time.
So if I'm giving it 150%, onlything I ask for you to do is do
a hit a post, hit a share, orhit a like.

(07:20):
I've been doing comedy 20, 22years, maybe 23 in December.
And you know how many classmatesthat haven't been on my comedy
show?
But I want class short, classathlete, class body, class most
likely to succeed, classtalented, class hype, class,
someone these different things.
But they say they'll they'llsupport me.
So at the end of the day, somepeople did, but some people

(07:41):
didn't.
And that's fine too.
But just know that faith withoutworks is there.

unknown (07:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:47):
So man, it's people listening, bro, that's gonna be
like they they on the fence.
They they they want to have thatperson that they can love and
trust and believe in.
What words of encouragement orwhat advice would you give them
so they can get to that level?

SPEAKER_00 (08:05):
Well, I would say this God is at top, like a
pyramid.
You have your wife and you haveyourself.
If you could keep focusing onyourself, and that person
focusing on themselves, whenthey focus on themselves,
they're gonna find God.
And you just meet me at the top.
It's like a pyramid.
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
They're working on you working on yourself.
That's the best thing that Ipersonally feel that somebody
can do for the universe.
Because if you give me the bestversion of you, and I'm giving
you the best version of me, thenwe're being obedient to the man
up top.
And he's gonna reward us withthat gift.

SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
All right, all right.
You you give me too much.
Last question, last question.
What does self- Don't be cut meoff?
What does self-work look likefor you?
Self-worth?
Self-worth.
Like, what is what is working onyourself?
What does that look like foryou?

SPEAKER_00 (08:55):
Oh.
Turn the TVs off.
Turn the TVs off.
Literally taking time foryourself.
Like, literally, you have tomake a sacrifice.
I personally believe.
Like everybody always chasingthe bag.
I gotta go get this bag, I gottago get this money in order to do
this.
Jason, do you have any idea thewhole point of going to get
money is so you can buy theproduct?
And going to get the product isso you can have the happy

(09:15):
feelings.
No, just have the happyfeelings, but that takes
practice.
So you have to be happy.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Cut the cameras off.
No joke.

SPEAKER_00 (09:22):
Go ahead, go ahead.
You have to have an attitude ofgratitude and practice having an
attitude of gratitude, butspending time with yourself.
That's the best thing you cando.
The most important things youcan do in your life is the day
that you find out the day youwere born and the day you find
out why you was born.
When you do that, you live thattill you die.
And it's the greatest feeling,it's the biggest reward.

(09:43):
And then for me, just to knowbeyond belief that I knew I was
gonna have a wife in the future.
I told women before, like this,oh, close.
I'm talking about we close, webonding, we kicking, we rocking.
And I'm like, oh, you know mywife.
But I mean, no, you know.
I know it when I see it's and itit just you can't explain it.

(10:05):
And that's special.
See, God created man and womanequal, but when he lay hands on
you, that's favorite.
And I was one of the blessings.

SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
Thank you, brother.
Thanks for tuning in to thePeace and Prosperity Podcast.
If today's episode brought youclarity, encouragement, or even
a moment of calm, share it withsomeone who needs to hear it
too.
Your support helps us keep theseconversations going.

(10:38):
And remember, you don't have todo it all alone.
If you're navigating stress,burnout, or just need a space to
reset, I'm here to support you.
Connect with me atjasonlphillips.com or send me a
message on social media.
Until next time, protect yourpeace, pursue your purpose, and

(11:00):
keep showing up for you.
Be blessed.
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