October 7, 2025 • 15 mins
The Peace & Prosperity Podcast is a bi-weekly conversation with Jason Phillips, LCSW, licensed therapist and confidence expert in Raleigh, NC, discussing all things related to self-love and self-confidence, and how we can improve ourselves personally and professionally.
In this episode, Jason sits down with Venus for a raw, honest discussion about burnout, grief, and the cost of always being “the strong one.” Venus opens up about her own experience with burnout—going from managing eight tasks at once to barely handling two—and how that shift forced her to confront her mental health.
They explore how grief shows up in unexpected ways, including the loss of her beloved dog, Coco Chanel, and how society often overlooks that kind of pain. Jason shares reflections from his time in hospice and the personal losses that shaped his healing journey.
Together, they challenge the myth that vulnerability is weakness, offering a powerful reminder: you only get one mind, one body, one life—and it deserves to be cared for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a lot like dealing with that because, like
you, people don't honor thateither.
It's to most people and I getit like they're just dogs, so
it's like you just keep on going.
But Chanel, coco Chanel, wasour baby, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome to the Peace and Prosperity Podcast, where we
talk mental wellness,confidence and real life tools
to help high achievers thrive.
I'm your host, jason Phillips,licensed therapist, speaker
coach, and I'm glad you're here.
Let's get into the episode, allright, y'all?
(00:42):
We back for another episode,and this time we are talking
about mental health.
A very important topic yeah,Kick us off V.
Why is it important?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's just like your physical health.
People ignore mental healthbecause it's not, like it can be
taboo, stigmatized, especiallyin the Black community.
But it's just as important asyour physical health.
Like it's literally you'redealing with things every day.
So if you're not mentally soundor healthy or taking care of
yourself, it's going to be hardfor you to show up.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I'll say, the thing that helps me with my
mental health is checking inwith people like y'all, like I
mean having therapists, havingthe coaches and the support too,
but like sometimes your friendswill either hold you
accountable or they'll ask youlike hey, are you?
You're good bro, your friendsdo the same Same.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like I had an experience actually with an
associate earlier today and likeshe saw me and she and she said
it.
She was like, yeah, I see you.
And that was like whoa, and itwas a good, I see you.
But those moments where you'relike, okay, I'm showing up
authentically, like me, andpeople are feeling it.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I remember it was years ago when I was in
leadership I had the are youdoing good?
You all right, and I'm like,yeah, I'm cool.
And then when they kept askingme on different days and
different people, I'm like Imust not be doing as good as I
think I am.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because you don't know People, you think you're
showing up a certain way andthat's good.
But other people can serve aslike a barometer, especially if
you trust them.
You might not be thinking youshowing up how you think you
showing up.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Because I was in leadership.
I'm taking care of everybodyelse.
I'm making sure people theirfamily's good, they got time off
.
I'm making sure the caseload isnot getting too heavy.
I'm making sure people theirfamily's good, they got time off
.
I'm making sure the caseload isnot getting too heavy.
I'm trying to make sure myfamily's good wife is good
family.
I'm doing everything foreverybody else.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And when they kept asking me, I'm like I must not
be doing that good, what do Ilook like?
Did you then step back and thensay ask them like why they were
asking you that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I didn't ask them that, I just figured, like you
know what I got to give myselfsome more support and I had also
, you know, like I was eatinggood.
But I think some of that eatingwas coping with daily stressors
.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, you mean eating good, like eating good.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingI was like low.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I was almost 30 pounds heavier.
Oh wow, you know what yousaying.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I was like low, I was almost 30 pounds heavier.
Oh wow, you know what you wereand you trimmed down a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, like I just thought about it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, not even realizing like it was a doctor
and doctors usually don't saythis but I was just having like
random pains and aches and hewas like, yeah, you kind of are
a little overweight.
And I don't even know if hesaid it like that.
He was more direct.
I was like, oh, okay, and Ididn't.
I'm like damn I am Becausenobody had said that.
Right, and I still was prettylike I still looked good.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Dressed well and all of that.
But once I started to reallyfocus on my physical health and
mental health in a different way, I was like, oh snap, I'm
feeling better now, that combois important and people ignore
it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Both of them play a factor.
But I always say if you're notmentally there, it's going to be
hard for you to push yourselfphysically.
It'll show up in aches or beingtired all the time.
Yeah, always needing a nap.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You need a nap after a nap.
So for you, V, because I knowyou've been vocal about taking
some breaks, not burning out,Like what were some of the signs
that, hey, I need to slow down.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Short temper.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So my boy was catching that.
That's what that means Listen,yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Alfred, sorry to your brother, sorry.
And then like just not feelinglike me, not really been able to
sleep and not being able to dothe things I normally would be
able to push through and do, andI was like, oh, shoot something
ain't right.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, that's one thing too about like high
performers, high achievers wecan juggle a whole lot for a
long time and then it's almostlike, at some point it's just
like I can't, I can't do it nomore.
That that's not good.
You're like what You're like?
Wait, I was doing eight thingsbefore.
Now I'm struggling to do two.
But I was doing eight.
Now I can only do one barely.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's exactly how it felt and it was almost like a
switch, like one week I had itand then the next week it was
like I can't.
I literally cannot do itanymore.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Because I look at you in the same light.
So like when I think aboutbasketball players, those great
players that just go, go, go,and then they like, yeah, I'm
about to retire.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It almost happened, I was like I can't do this, I'm
going to have to shut it down.
But yeah, that was my biggestclue.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What was the decision process like for you to kind of
really shut it down, slow itdown?
What was that?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That was hard because I was juggling with like
feeling like I was a failure,because I couldn't do it.
So I had to tap back in with mytherapist and my therapist
really helped me realize thatlike just because I'm a high
performer and I'm not able to doit all the time, I'm not
supposed to.
She also kept reiterating she'slike you realize you're doing a
(05:50):
lot.
You literally have twofull-time jobs and that's just
your work, but that's notaccounting for the fact that
your wife, like your daughter,sister, all these different
things she's like you're reallydoing a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So it's like normal for you to feel this way, but
you need to kind of reel it inwhat's the term too, because I
know you, you and Alfred justhad a huge loss with Coco.
What's the term when you're adog parent?
What's that term?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Fur baby, you're a fur mom, right, yeah, I'm a fur
mom.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So that's something too.
You were juggling.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And people don't understand.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Still dealing with that.
She is on my phone right now asmy screensaver.
It's a lot dealing with that,because people don't honor that
either To most people and I getit like they're just dogs, so
it's like you just keep on going.
But Chanel, coco Chanel, wasour baby, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I remember I used to work in hospice.
First out of grad school Istarted working in hospice and
we would lead grief supportgroups we would do they had one
for like losses of any familymember or a loved one, and then
there was one specific tospouses.
But what I remember was whenpeople would go around and share
how they were doing and whatwas going on with them when they
(07:12):
had a loss of a pet.
It was almost like hold on,let's make sure you good,
because we know just howimportant your pet is a fur, dog
or cat, whatever is for you.
And that's when I was like Ididn't have it, like we didn't
have Snoop at the time.
Um, because you know Snoop,he's, he's the person now, he's
the person right like Snoop, helike at a party, yeah.
(07:33):
So I understood.
I understood then the gravitywhen people they had maybe lost
a spouse of 50, 60 yearssometimes, and then when they
lost their pet, they were like,hey, how are you doing Right?
So that's what let me knowearly on, like, okay, we can't
like weight these lossesdifferently.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right, right, then we've been taking time.
I've been really gentle withmyself with that, because I am,
as you know.
I'm kind of like, okay, we dealwith it and we move on.
This season has forced me toslow it down, so I'm slow with
things now.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I know, when I lost my grandmother and then, less
than two years, my mom, I waslike, okay, at first lost my
grandmother and we were close,really close, but then when I
lost my mom, I'm like, oh snap,like I got to slow down and get
in with my therapist or get atherapist, because sometimes
just finding a person is tough.
Yeah, that can be an issue too.
So I remember that, you know,and it takes a while too to
(08:31):
recover from those losses.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So what would you say ?
Your, how did you kind of not,how did you cope with it, with
the loss of your, like your mom?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
in particular and still coping with it.
Yeah, I mean, it's different.
Honoring her, I think, onething that does help not to keep
doing, but the fact that I amabout to finish my degree.
That's something she kind ofmentioned like, yeah, you should
get your doctorate, your PhD.
I'm like you get a PhD, youknow, but now it feels different
being able to get this, havethis accolade and honor in
(09:05):
memory of her Other things, youknow.
Having a daughter who shefavors too, that's something
that I enjoy, like looking at mydaughter and spending time with
her.
What else do I do?
It's different in each holidayor occasion.
How I honor her is different.
And then just really talking,like sharing, like this, and
checking in with other peoplewho've had losses, and living
(09:28):
for each moment.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I think people underestimate like talking and
they think keeping it inside andnot sharing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And thank you for asking too.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Of course, yeah, you know you know I'm a check in you
know I'm a check in, buttalking about it and being open
and authentic about.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It is like important too.
So I guess it's kind of similar, like it's different.
But for men talking about ourmental health or our emotions if
we even use that word emotions,feelings that can be taboo
Sometimes for women inleadership positions, positions
especially in the job or on thejob, y'all can't keep it, kind
of keep a close hold too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I actually had a moment.
I haven't talked about this onlike to really anybody outside
of Alfred.
He was there recently, maybe acouple weeks ago.
I had a photo shoot, um, forour skirts.
So we uh re-released our skirts, our wrap skirts, and the
photographer or not photographer, but the agency owner, the
(10:27):
model agency owner was there andwe just built a really good
rapport with each other, a goodrelationship so far.
And when I walked up to her shewas like she gave me a hug and
she was like what's wrong?
And she was like I see you andJason, I like the tears fell
because I was overwhelmed.
I had a rough week at work.
(10:49):
I was in the middle of tryingto relaunch these rap skirts and
I didn't really felt like I hadenough time to really get the
shoot, like from the creativedirection perspective together.
The location was kind of likenot my favorite, it was just a
lot.
And then, like honestly, it wasjust a lot.
So when she said that she sawme and she was like what's wrong
, I was like lost it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So I think, yeah, I mean I'm glad that you had that
space, because kind of circlingback like entrepreneurship is
hard on your mental health.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And that's what I meant to say.
to wrap it up, my bad I lost mytrain of thought because I went
back to the moment, but kind oflike on the job.
I think as a leader, you haveto I think it's helpful to be
vulnerable and to be real.
So in that moment, instead oflike hiding it, I felt I was low
key, embarrassed, but at thesame time I was like you know,
(11:42):
it's OK, I am overwhelmed and itis OK to show that Now we honor
it and move forward, unpack itlater and keep moving and even
at my nine to five, like with myteam, I show emotion, I'll tell
them like, hey, I don't today,I don't have it today.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So if I say something short, that takes courage.
I used to close my door andlike, look, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I ain't got it today, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If somebody's listening, they've been on the
fence about getting help.
What would you?
How would you encourage them,or what words would you have for
that person?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You owe it to yourself to honor yourself and
to advocate for yourself and totake care of yourself.
You only get this one body,this one brain, this one being
right, and you owe it toyourself to show up for yourself
and get the help that you need.
So it's hard and it can be hardto really admit.
(12:37):
It can feel like you're weak,that you need to get help, but
it's not where life is hard,especially right now To me.
I think normalizing that, likeif you don't have a therapist, I
might be looking at you likehow you, how you coping with all
this and you ain't got notherapist.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, as always, v.
This is good.
We're going to keep it going.
Yeah, absolutely Anytime.
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Be blessed.
It's a lot like dealing with that because, like
you, people don't honor thateither.
It's to most people and I getit like they're just dogs, so
it's like you just keep on going.
But Chanel, coco Chanel, wasour baby, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome to the Peace and Prosperity Podcast, where we
talk mental wellness,confidence and real life tools
to help high achievers thrive.
I'm your host, jason Phillips,licensed therapist, speaker
coach, and I'm glad you're here.
Let's get into the episode, allright, y'all?
(00:42):
We back for another episode,and this time we are talking
about mental health.
A very important topic yeah,Kick us off V.
Why is it important?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's just like your physical health.
People ignore mental healthbecause it's not, like it can be
taboo, stigmatized, especiallyin the Black community.
But it's just as important asyour physical health.
Like it's literally you'redealing with things every day.
So if you're not mentally soundor healthy or taking care of
yourself, it's going to be hardfor you to show up.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I'll say, the thing that helps me with my
mental health is checking inwith people like y'all, like I
mean having therapists, havingthe coaches and the support too,
but like sometimes your friendswill either hold you
accountable or they'll ask youlike hey, are you?
You're good bro, your friendsdo the same Same.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like I had an experience actually with an
associate earlier today and likeshe saw me and she and she said
it.
She was like, yeah, I see you.
And that was like whoa, and itwas a good, I see you.
But those moments where you'relike, okay, I'm showing up
authentically, like me, andpeople are feeling it.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I remember it was years ago when I was in
leadership I had the are youdoing good?
You all right, and I'm like,yeah, I'm cool.
And then when they kept askingme on different days and
different people, I'm like Imust not be doing as good as I
think I am.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because you don't know People, you think you're
showing up a certain way andthat's good.
But other people can serve aslike a barometer, especially if
you trust them.
You might not be thinking youshowing up how you think you
showing up.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Because I was in leadership.
I'm taking care of everybodyelse.
I'm making sure people theirfamily's good, they got time off
.
I'm making sure the caseload isnot getting too heavy.
I'm making sure people theirfamily's good, they got time off
.
I'm making sure the caseload isnot getting too heavy.
I'm trying to make sure myfamily's good wife is good
family.
I'm doing everything foreverybody else.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And when they kept asking me, I'm like I must not
be doing that good, what do Ilook like?
Did you then step back and thensay ask them like why they were
asking you that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I didn't ask them that, I just figured, like you
know what I got to give myselfsome more support and I had also
, you know, like I was eatinggood.
But I think some of that eatingwas coping with daily stressors
.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, you mean eating good, like eating good.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingI was like low.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I was almost 30 pounds heavier.
Oh wow, you know what yousaying.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I was like low, I was almost 30 pounds heavier.
Oh wow, you know what you wereand you trimmed down a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, like I just thought about it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, not even realizing like it was a doctor
and doctors usually don't saythis but I was just having like
random pains and aches and hewas like, yeah, you kind of are
a little overweight.
And I don't even know if hesaid it like that.
He was more direct.
I was like, oh, okay, and Ididn't.
I'm like damn I am Becausenobody had said that.
Right, and I still was prettylike I still looked good.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Dressed well and all of that.
But once I started to reallyfocus on my physical health and
mental health in a different way, I was like, oh snap, I'm
feeling better now, that combois important and people ignore
it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Both of them play a factor.
But I always say if you're notmentally there, it's going to be
hard for you to push yourselfphysically.
It'll show up in aches or beingtired all the time.
Yeah, always needing a nap.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You need a nap after a nap.
So for you, V, because I knowyou've been vocal about taking
some breaks, not burning out,Like what were some of the signs
that, hey, I need to slow down.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Short temper.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So my boy was catching that.
That's what that means Listen,yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Alfred, sorry to your brother, sorry.
And then like just not feelinglike me, not really been able to
sleep and not being able to dothe things I normally would be
able to push through and do, andI was like, oh, shoot something
ain't right.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, that's one thing too about like high
performers, high achievers wecan juggle a whole lot for a
long time and then it's almostlike, at some point it's just
like I can't, I can't do it nomore.
That that's not good.
You're like what You're like?
Wait, I was doing eight thingsbefore.
Now I'm struggling to do two.
But I was doing eight.
Now I can only do one barely.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's exactly how it felt and it was almost like a
switch, like one week I had itand then the next week it was
like I can't.
I literally cannot do itanymore.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Because I look at you in the same light.
So like when I think aboutbasketball players, those great
players that just go, go, go,and then they like, yeah, I'm
about to retire.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It almost happened, I was like I can't do this, I'm
going to have to shut it down.
But yeah, that was my biggestclue.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What was the decision process like for you to kind of
really shut it down, slow itdown?
What was that?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That was hard because I was juggling with like
feeling like I was a failure,because I couldn't do it.
So I had to tap back in with mytherapist and my therapist
really helped me realize thatlike just because I'm a high
performer and I'm not able to doit all the time, I'm not
supposed to.
She also kept reiterating she'slike you realize you're doing a
(05:50):
lot.
You literally have twofull-time jobs and that's just
your work, but that's notaccounting for the fact that
your wife, like your daughter,sister, all these different
things she's like you're reallydoing a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So it's like normal for you to feel this way, but
you need to kind of reel it inwhat's the term too, because I
know you, you and Alfred justhad a huge loss with Coco.
What's the term when you're adog parent?
What's that term?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Fur baby, you're a fur mom, right, yeah, I'm a fur
mom.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So that's something too.
You were juggling.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And people don't understand.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Still dealing with that.
She is on my phone right now asmy screensaver.
It's a lot dealing with that,because people don't honor that
either To most people and I getit like they're just dogs, so
it's like you just keep on going.
But Chanel, coco Chanel, wasour baby, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I remember I used to work in hospice.
First out of grad school Istarted working in hospice and
we would lead grief supportgroups we would do they had one
for like losses of any familymember or a loved one, and then
there was one specific tospouses.
But what I remember was whenpeople would go around and share
how they were doing and whatwas going on with them when they
(07:12):
had a loss of a pet.
It was almost like hold on,let's make sure you good,
because we know just howimportant your pet is a fur, dog
or cat, whatever is for you.
And that's when I was like Ididn't have it, like we didn't
have Snoop at the time.
Um, because you know Snoop,he's, he's the person now, he's
the person right like Snoop, helike at a party, yeah.
(07:33):
So I understood.
I understood then the gravitywhen people they had maybe lost
a spouse of 50, 60 yearssometimes, and then when they
lost their pet, they were like,hey, how are you doing Right?
So that's what let me knowearly on, like, okay, we can't
like weight these lossesdifferently.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right, right, then we've been taking time.
I've been really gentle withmyself with that, because I am,
as you know.
I'm kind of like, okay, we dealwith it and we move on.
This season has forced me toslow it down, so I'm slow with
things now.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I know, when I lost my grandmother and then, less
than two years, my mom, I waslike, okay, at first lost my
grandmother and we were close,really close, but then when I
lost my mom, I'm like, oh snap,like I got to slow down and get
in with my therapist or get atherapist, because sometimes
just finding a person is tough.
Yeah, that can be an issue too.
So I remember that, you know,and it takes a while too to
(08:31):
recover from those losses.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So what would you say ?
Your, how did you kind of not,how did you cope with it, with
the loss of your, like your mom?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
in particular and still coping with it.
Yeah, I mean, it's different.
Honoring her, I think, onething that does help not to keep
doing, but the fact that I amabout to finish my degree.
That's something she kind ofmentioned like, yeah, you should
get your doctorate, your PhD.
I'm like you get a PhD, youknow, but now it feels different
being able to get this, havethis accolade and honor in
(09:05):
memory of her Other things, youknow.
Having a daughter who shefavors too, that's something
that I enjoy, like looking at mydaughter and spending time with
her.
What else do I do?
It's different in each holidayor occasion.
How I honor her is different.
And then just really talking,like sharing, like this, and
checking in with other peoplewho've had losses, and living
(09:28):
for each moment.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I think people underestimate like talking and
they think keeping it inside andnot sharing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And thank you for asking too.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Of course, yeah, you know you know I'm a check in you
know I'm a check in, buttalking about it and being open
and authentic about.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It is like important too.
So I guess it's kind of similar, like it's different.
But for men talking about ourmental health or our emotions if
we even use that word emotions,feelings that can be taboo
Sometimes for women inleadership positions, positions
especially in the job or on thejob, y'all can't keep it, kind
of keep a close hold too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I actually had a moment.
I haven't talked about this onlike to really anybody outside
of Alfred.
He was there recently, maybe acouple weeks ago.
I had a photo shoot, um, forour skirts.
So we uh re-released our skirts, our wrap skirts, and the
photographer or not photographer, but the agency owner, the
(10:27):
model agency owner was there andwe just built a really good
rapport with each other, a goodrelationship so far.
And when I walked up to her shewas like she gave me a hug and
she was like what's wrong?
And she was like I see you andJason, I like the tears fell
because I was overwhelmed.
I had a rough week at work.
(10:49):
I was in the middle of tryingto relaunch these rap skirts and
I didn't really felt like I hadenough time to really get the
shoot, like from the creativedirection perspective together.
The location was kind of likenot my favorite, it was just a
lot.
And then, like honestly, it wasjust a lot.
So when she said that she sawme and she was like what's wrong
, I was like lost it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So I think, yeah, I mean I'm glad that you had that
space, because kind of circlingback like entrepreneurship is
hard on your mental health.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And that's what I meant to say.
to wrap it up, my bad I lost mytrain of thought because I went
back to the moment, but kind oflike on the job.
I think as a leader, you haveto I think it's helpful to be
vulnerable and to be real.
So in that moment, instead oflike hiding it, I felt I was low
key, embarrassed, but at thesame time I was like you know,
(11:42):
it's OK, I am overwhelmed and itis OK to show that Now we honor
it and move forward, unpack itlater and keep moving and even
at my nine to five, like with myteam, I show emotion, I'll tell
them like, hey, I don't today,I don't have it today.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So if I say something short, that takes courage.
I used to close my door andlike, look, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I ain't got it today, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If somebody's listening, they've been on the
fence about getting help.
What would you?
How would you encourage them,or what words would you have for
that person?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You owe it to yourself to honor yourself and
to advocate for yourself and totake care of yourself.
You only get this one body,this one brain, this one being
right, and you owe it toyourself to show up for yourself
and get the help that you need.
So it's hard and it can be hardto really admit.
(12:37):
It can feel like you're weak,that you need to get help, but
it's not where life is hard,especially right now To me.
I think normalizing that, likeif you don't have a therapist, I
might be looking at you likehow you, how you coping with all
this and you ain't got notherapist.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, as always, v.
This is good.
We're going to keep it going.
Yeah, absolutely Anytime.
All right, y'all Peace.
Thanks for tuning in to thePeace and Prosperity Podcast.
If today's episode brought youclarity, encouragement or even a
moment of calm, share it withsomeone who needs to hear it too
(13:18):
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Your support helps us keepthese conversations going.
And remember you don't have todo it all alone.
If you're navigating stress,burnout or just need a space to
reset, I'm here to support you.
Connect with me atjasonlphillipscom, or send me a
message on social mediaSintLPhillipscom.
Or send me a message on socialmedia.
(13:40):
Until next time, protect yourpeace, pursue your purpose and
keep showing up for you.
Be blessed.
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