Somali Fraud, Pipe Bombs, And Power

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SPEAKER_17 (00:55):
You see the peasants in the background with the keys
and kings walking around?
Where are those people?
Where are those people?
Good morning, peasants.
Welcome to another episode ofThe Peasants Perspective.
Pony Boy's already in the chats.
He made it.
Ooh, good mor uh morningpeasants.

(01:16):
Old morning peasants.
Good morning, John Tacis.
Morning Boy.
It was good.
Oh, I know how you feel.
I feel like every time I put outan X post that gets like major
traction, you know, 2,000 plusviews.
Right.
Always a spelling error.
Yeah.
Always.
Always.
It's impossible not to get one.
And the worst thing is they letyou edit for like an hour,

(01:38):
assuming no one comments.
Right.
So the moment you get a comment,you're like, oh, it's gonna go
viral.
Oh crap! Anyways, there's amovie on Netflix, I think, and I
haven't had Netflix subscriptionfor a long time, but it's called
The Boys.
Might be on Prime.
I don't even know where it's at.
It's called The Boys.
And it's one of these like uhmodern-day X-Men.

(02:02):
Basically, these people aregiven mute or get mutant powers
from a pharmaceutical drug, butthen it also gets in them to
where they can pass it on totheir posterity.
So there's a whole bunch of likegenomics and stuff like that
going on.
Anyways, in the show, these uhhybrids, right?
These humans with mutantcapabilities are getting in

(02:23):
fact, this might even be anX-Men episode, to be completely
opposite.
Sounds like a Pfizer commercial.
It's still overlapped, might bean X-Men, it might be one of the
X-Men shows.
I can't remember now.
But, anyways, uh one of theseX-Men has capacities to like
make people's brains explode,but otherwise looks completely
normal and it's is in politics.
So at one point, the governmentcreates the you know regulation

(02:45):
of mutants department orwhatever, and walking in as the
first ever head of thedepartment is a mutant that's a
bad that's a bad mutant, right?
And it's like, no.
Well, that's pretty much how Iview reality at this point,
right?
There's certain things that onceyou see them, you can't see
them.
Like, for example, imagine youwere tasked with being in charge

(03:07):
of the drug enforcement agency.
You know, someone who's in who'sreally tasked by the American
people through the office of thepresidency, nominated and conf
or confirmed by the Senate.

SPEAKER_19 (03:18):
Lay down the law.

SPEAKER_17 (03:19):
Yeah, to lay down the law to stop drug
trafficking.
What if they were actually drugtrafficking themselves?

SPEAKER_10 (03:34):
Paul Campo conspired, allegedly, to launder
up to$12 million in drugtrafficking proceeds.
Campo and an associate by thename of Robert Sensi are accused
in the scheme of converting cashinto cryptocurrency to buy 220
kilos of Coke worth about fivemillion bucks on the street, and
then attempting to launder evenmore money, almost

(03:55):
three-quarters of a milliondollars from other drug sales
for the Jalisco New GenerationCartel.
These two gentlemen have beencharged with narco-terrorism
conspiracy, conspiracy todistribute narcotics, and as you
can well imagine, also withmoney laundering conspiracy.
Campo has pleaded not guilty,and he is in custody tonight.

(04:15):
There's a good chance, Jesse,he's not going anywhere anytime
soon.

SPEAKER_17 (04:22):
Told you so.
You know how many guys I know inprison that are like, I know I
was buying drugs from the feds.

SPEAKER_16 (04:30):
I know what they were dealing with.

SPEAKER_17 (04:31):
He's the dude.
Dude, that's the guy.
That's the guy I talked to.
That is hilarious.
Uh it's not hilarious, it'stragic.
Clearly, that guy does belong injail.
He doesn't need rehab.
Okay, he needs some serioushelp.
He made a mistake.
A high-ranking official in theDEA in the Obama administration
was working directly with thecartels to not only launder

(04:55):
money but to actually purchaseand distribute drugs.
Wow.
Is anyone surprised?
No, no, not really.
So this is Scott Bessant.
Speaking of, no, this is ScottBessant.
Who, again, Trump has puttogether a really dynamite
cabinet, and a cabinet, and iffor anything else, it's because
they've been actually vetted.

(05:16):
You know, you've you you let theinternet have at these people
left and right, and pretty muchany skeleton these people have
ever had in their closet wasbrought out during their Senate
confirmations.
So it feels to me like thiscabinet is a little bit
bulletproof.
Uh cabinets in the past may havegotten a pass.
I don't know.
Just just based on, you know,what we've seen.

(05:37):
It was so interesting.
I was in uh one of our 1776live.us classes on Saturday, and
the presenter was saying thatTrump's been in office uh his
whole adult life, and thensomeone else got on because
members of the community are 26,27.
They're like, Yeah, I mean, Iremember, you know, vaguely,
like I have a memory of BarackObama being in office.

(05:59):
I'm like, dude, could youimagine your whole adult life
basically being the Trump showand all the drama that's
happened?
It's crazy.
I I kind of like became verycognizant of politics really
early in life, but my adult lifepost graduation has been Obama

(06:20):
plus, right?
So I came into a world that wastransitioning, right?
And but it was still very muchthe old world where you know
merit mattered, and if youworked hard, you could succeed.
That was like really what wewere taught.
And I found my niche, but a lotof my peers did not.
A lot of my peers got caught inthat yeah, I went and got my
good job, and then it's justbeen like there's been no

(06:42):
white-collar security, there'sbeen no blue-collar security
either.
You're not upwardly mobile inthe trades because you're
constantly injecting newimmigrants and things like that
into the worker work pool.
So, anyways, lots of interestingstuff.
Scott Bessent went on the newsshows this weekend.
You know, eight of every weekendthere's like the face the nation
and all these weekend shows,right?

(07:02):
Scott Bessent went on Face theNation and he was being asked
about this Somali scandal up inMinnesota.
This thing is breaking open.
Like it it starts out as justkind of okay, you know, a couple
hundred million dollars.
Okay, now we're up to a billion,then we're up to two billion,
now we're up to eight billion.
Now they're like, it might belike 24 billion dollars that the

(07:23):
Somalis have essentiallydefrauded the taxpayers of
Minnesota and the federalgovernment from.
It's stunning.
So Scott Bessant was talkingabout this, and probably one of
the most iconic lines, somethingwe should have etched into a
plaque on the wall is how hefinishes up this interview.

SPEAKER_35 (07:38):
The Biden administration created the worst
inflation in 50 years, and maybefor working Americans, the worst
inflation of all time.
And we have pulled that numberdown.
That Strategis Research doessomething called the Common Man
Index.
Under Biden, the cumulatedinflation number uh as measured
by CPI is about 20%.
Their index showed 35%.

(08:00):
This year, for the first time,the common man index is below
the inflation index because thebasket of goods for working
Americans, food, gasoline, rentis coming down.
So I I read an essay March 12th,2024, and it talked about the

three eyes (08:15):
immigration, interest rates, and inflation.
Mass infettered immigrationdepressed wages, caused housing
prices to go up.
President has closed the border,that is fixed.
Interest rates have come down.
The bond market just had thebest year since 2020, and now we
are working on inflation, and Iexpect inflation to roll down

(08:37):
strongly next year.
The Biden administration createdthe worst yeah.

SPEAKER_17 (08:45):
I was gonna ask you what the plaque's supposed to
say.
Here's the one.
This is the one that's gonnahave the plaque at the end.
And again, it's continuing alongthe same line.
So he's talking about, you know,we were handed over the worst
inflation, which is gonna becomereally relevant here in just a
second.
But this is specifically withthe Somali thing.

SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
The president told you, though, this week to look
into Somalis who, quote, rippedoff that state for billions of
dollars.
He said they contribute nothing.
What exactly are youinvestigating?

SPEAKER_35 (09:11):
Well, Margaret, to be clear, the initial fraud that
was discovered by the IRS, forwhich I'm the acting
commissioner.
It was discovered by IRSCriminal Investigations Unit.
This was not an endogenous thingthat the state of Minnesota
decided we had to go in andclean up the mess for them.
And this is part of thecontinued cleanup.

(09:33):
A lot of money has beentransferred from the individuals
who committed this fraud,including those who donated to
the government, governor donatedto Representative Omar and
donated to A.G.
Ellison.
Uh, but they've been transferredto something called MBS's.
The um and those are tracksecurity.

(09:53):
What do you mean?
Sorry?

SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
Transferred to what?

SPEAKER_35 (09:57):
These are money, the uh Bureau services, and they are
wire transfer organizations thatare outside the regulated
banking system, and that moneyhas gone overseas, and we are
track tracking that the uh bothto the Middle East and to
Somalia to see what the uses ofthat have been.

SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Okay, but you have no evidence of that money being
used to fuel terrorism at thispoint, which is what some
conservative writers arealleging.

SPEAKER_35 (10:24):
That's why it's an investigation.
We started it last week.
We'll see where it goes.
But I I can tell you that youknow it's terrible.
You know, the RepresentativeOmar tried to downplay it, said,
Oh, it it was very the uh youknow, it was very tough to know
how this money should should beused.
You know, she she wasgaslighting the American people.

SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
Well, we'll talk to her.

SPEAKER_35 (10:46):
Yeah, but you know, when you come to this country,
you gotta learn which side ofthe road to drive on, you gotta
learn to stop the stop signs,and you gotta learn the uh not
to defraud the American people.

SPEAKER_17 (10:56):
That's the line right there.
When you come to this country,you gotta learn to drive on the
right side of the road, stop atthe side slides, and not to
defraud the American people.

SPEAKER_19 (11:04):
I like it.
I like it.

SPEAKER_17 (11:06):
It should be etched in stone above the United States
Treasury and the Department ofImmigration, right?
As you come across the border onLSI, give me your hungry, you're
poor, you're weak, that willdrive on the right side of the
road, stop the side signs andnot defraud the American
government.
This is such a big deal thateven uh Secretary Oz, Mehmet Oz,

(11:27):
had to step in and do one ofthese official health and human
service videos talking to thestate of Minnesota, giving them
a pretty broad, plain open, notjust broad, but a plain
ultimatum.

SPEAKER_40 (11:38):
It's true.
A Somali fraud ring in Minnesotastole over a billion dollars
from Medicaid.
How did this happen?
Well, Medicaid programs are runby the states, which in
Minnesota means the Tim Wallaceadministration.
Governor Walls and the state'sother Democrats rely on Somali
votes to get elected.
So they decided to look theother way because they were
afraid of quote unquotepolitical backlash.

(12:00):
Don't take my word for it.
That's what a Somali Americanfraud investigator told the New
York Times.
When these scammers realizedthat nobody was guarding the
cash register, they wentgangbusters.
One program designed to providehousing stabilization assistance
to patients ballooned to$104million.
When four years ago it wasprojected to cost only$2.6

(12:23):
million.
Some of these taxpayer funds mayhave even ended up in the hands
of a Somalian terrorist group.
Scary stuff.
When CMS became aware of thehousing program situation,
Minnesota insisted it couldclean up its own mess.
A few months ago, it admitted itcould not.
So we stepped in to shut downthe fraud-infested housing
initiative.

(12:44):
Today we're taking action onmore than a dozen other
programs, which I've outlined inthe post below.
Our message to Wallace is clear.
Either fix this in 60 days orstart looking under your couch
for spare change, because we aredone putting the bill for your
incompetence.
This administration will neverstop biting to protect the
vulnerable Americans who rely onthese programs and the taxpayers

(13:06):
who fund them.
We're going to crush our waste,fraud, and abuse.

SPEAKER_17 (13:10):
I'll tell you what, if if right now, if we can take
a snapshot at all the things theadministration is doing right
now in this moment, all thethings it's done, settling wars,
overseas deals, trade deals,etc.
etc.
If you can take a snapshot rightnow and go back in time and it
was March 1st, we would have thehappiest MAGA contingent on the
planet.

(13:30):
Right.
They've gotten to so manythings.
Like you're talking aboutcutting off Medicaid dollars to
the state of Minnesota untilthey fix the fraud.
Like it's not just, hey, on themargins.
It's like, no, we'll just cut itoff completely.
Like this is where we wanted tobe in March.
Okay.
So that's a lot of thefrustration from the MAGA and
the Here in Washington, too.

(13:52):
Yeah.
A lot and Maine's got their ownissues.
So this thing's going tometastasize for sure.
They're definitely taking a lookat all these programs, these
social safety net programs thatwere designed to ensure that
everybody could achieve theAmerican dream.
And they're going, whoa, whoa,whoa.
They're it's actually holding usback because the people who are
assertive and go out and try tosucceed in the world, they get

(14:12):
punished.
Their success gets punished.
You start getting taxed reallyearly on as a small business
owner, right?
And where does that money go?
Oh, these billion-dollarhomeless programs.
Then why are there homelesstents out in front of my my
bodega?
You know what I mean?
Like this doesn't make any senseto me.

SPEAKER_19 (14:28):
Yes.
We just had the biggest taxincrease in Washington state
history, and now the governor'salready saying they're going to
be a shortfall, and our qualityof life is in the toilet.

SPEAKER_17 (14:38):
What is going on?
We've had the highest rate ofhome appreciation in the
country.
Did you see that chart?
No, but I believe it.
It was like 800% increase inhousing over whatever period of
time.
But you know, the whole leftcoast was pretty high, but we
were higher than California.
We were higher than anywhereelse in the country.

SPEAKER_19 (14:56):
800% well, people were leaving California, you
know.
That just puts pressure on themarket.

SPEAKER_17 (15:00):
We also have really high-paying corporate jobs here.
Amazon, uh, Amazon, Microsoft,Boeing, uh, Costco, Starbucks.
I mean, there's a lot, and youcould for a little while until
those guys all leave.
Yeah, but a lot of those guys,that's what drove the housing
prices high.
It was high-quality jobs.
Unfortunately, half of them wentto H1B uh visa holders.

(15:20):
You know, hearkening back to anolder time, right?
Like I look at this, I'm gonnaplay this little video here.
This is 1998, and it's anAI-generated video, but it's
talking about the cost of livingin 1998.
And this is what so manyboomers, and I hate to say this,
but this was like the pinnacleof the boomers generation.
They've matured in their jobs,they've just hit like stasis,

(15:41):
you know, you've got your home,you're built, you've your
family's established, it'sstarting to mature, kids are
getting into high school.
This harkens back to that momentin time, right?
This is the moment that boomerswant to return to, and this is
what a lot of the youngergeneration were pitched, and the
reality has not has not been.

SPEAKER_19 (15:58):
Yeah, before you play this, I'll just say that I
grew up, I was I was 12 whenreganomics were coming into
style.
And yeah, I was working on myyou know, citizenship and the
community merit badge whenRonald Reagan was president.

SPEAKER_17 (16:13):
Yeah, so this this right here, this night trickle
down economics, this 1998snapshot for many people is like
the pinnacle of Americana,right?
We've entered the computer age,the information age is around
there, people still read books,you know.
Our public education is kind ofat its pinnacle.
We haven't gone to war in theMiddle East, you can still get

(16:34):
right onto an airplane withouttaking off your shoes.

SPEAKER_19 (16:36):
The internet's still pretty new.

SPEAKER_17 (16:37):
Yeah, it's all about for kids, it's just cheat codes
like pornography hasn't become athing yet.
This is 1998.

SPEAKER_20 (16:43):
Dude, it's 1998, and a good house costs about
$125,000.
A lot of people can actuallyafford their own place.
A new family car costs less than$20,000, and most families can
easily swing a new car.
Gas is about a dollar or ohthree cents a gallon.
We drive to go on vacation orweekend trips all the time
without even worrying about theprice of gas.

(17:05):
A loaf of bread costs about 85cents, which is super cheap for
every family.
Rent for an apartment is about$650 a month.
We can find our own place andnot have to share with anyone
else.
A Big Mac meal is about$399.
Lunch for less than five bucks.
Now that's some seriously cheapfast food.

(17:25):
A new CD costs about$14.
We love going to the recordstore to buy albums because it's
like a cool collection to showoff.
Grocery bills are about$40 aweek.
We go to the store, get what weneed for the week, and still
have some cash left over forsnacks.
Dude, are you gonna stay in 1998or face the reality of 2025?

SPEAKER_16 (17:46):
What is the reality?
1998.

SPEAKER_17 (17:48):
Right.
That I remember one time havinga conversation with my grandma
over the dinner table, and I wasstruggling to buy housing.
I was like 25.
And I was still I was actuallymaking good money too, like
really good money, but I didn'tqualify for a house because of I
was making money five flippinghouses and I didn't have a job,
right?
She's like, Well, back when dadand I bought our first house,
you know, it was a real stretchtoo.

(18:10):
Our house was 15 grand.
That was really expensive then.
Well, how much did dad grandpamake at the mill?
Well, he made about 45 grand ayear.
I'm like, What you made morethan your house cost?
I was like, that's actually thatwas actually came out of her
mouth.
I'm like, you know, there's notlike a city in the entire
country where you can get awayfrom it.
Like it was beautiful.
Right, I'm telling you, it was astretch for them, right?

(18:31):
But and then you know, theybought a car, it was$5,000.
They paid cash.
It was such a stretch they hadto save up for it because you
know, finances.

SPEAKER_19 (18:37):
Are you sure he wasn't making$4,500?

SPEAKER_17 (18:39):
No, it was like 40.
He was an electrician at themill.
Now, of course, this wholeindustry got devastated just a
decade after she told this, youknow, was telling me the story
about it.
And I think they might havebought their house in the 50s or
something like that.
Either way, he made really goodmoney for what he was doing,
right?
And he was he had come from hewas a post-Korea War vet, had
made his way from Arkansas tothe Oregon coast, and there was

(19:01):
a boom going on.

SPEAKER_19 (19:02):
Sounds like he was living a the real American
dream.

SPEAKER_17 (19:04):
He was, he was living a real American dream in
his journals.
You know, he went to go visitthe Northwest and saw the Coos
Bay Bridge and was just thoughtit was a modern marvel of
architecture.
He was like, I want to livehere.
And he did.
He bought a house just up theroad from the bridge.
So he drove over the bridgeevery day to work.
Wow.
Okay, so that's the 1998reality.
What's the 2025 reality?

(19:25):
Ron, this is gonna work.
Well, I can tell you, I reallywish that we could go back to
98.
Yeah, we all wish we could, andand maybe we're taking steps
that direction, honestly.
But here's the reality today.

SPEAKER_29 (19:35):
Here's how I only pay$400 a month for rent in Los
Angeles.
Klarna has just rolled outapartment financing.
So instead of my rent beingsixteen hundred dollars a month
for one year, it's gonna be fourhundred dollars a month for four
years, all with zero percentapparent.
You might be thinking, Chase,this isn't smart.
It's called investing inyourself because I know in four

(19:58):
years' time I will have a biggerportfolio.
Out and more money in that town.
This system will allow me toenjoy my 20s more.
Have fun now, worry later.

SPEAKER_17 (20:06):
Do you understand what that was all about?
What?
So rent in his one-bedroom LAstudio room there, as you saw,
is sixteen hundred dollars amonth.
He can't afford that.
So what does he do?
He finances his rental.
Instead of paying$1,600 a monthfor one year, he's going to pay
$400 a month for four years.
But he's going to be out of hislease contract in one year.

(20:29):
So he's going to continue payingthis year's month four years,
you know, the delta on thisyear's rent over the next four
years.

SPEAKER_16 (20:37):
Oh my gosh.
Then what's he gonna do nextyear?
The same thing and rack upanother four years?
Hopefully he's investing inhimself.

SPEAKER_17 (20:46):
Oh okay.
That is when I talk to peoplethat are younger than me, these
are the kind of choices they'remaking.
Do you see why a 50-yearmortgage is appealing to some of
these guys?
Because to them it's about themonthly payment.
All right.
Well, if I make more money in inthree years in a year, then I
can I can make, you know, I'llhave invested this year in

(21:07):
myself.
Now for those adults, we'relike, dude, a year goes by fast
and four years, you know, you'regonna be paying for that first
month's rent for four years.
Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_19 (21:16):
I'm at the age now where it's like, hey, 30 years
goes by pretty quick.

SPEAKER_17 (21:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Okay, Zero Hedge, it was agreat, great, has great
articles.
Uh, they've got an article byTyler Durden called Is a
Backdoor Gold Standard Coming?
And this article just basicallygoes through it's like, listen,
everybody's trying to get offthe fiat system.
Um, in 1918, excuse me, uh 1771,1873, there was the Coinage Act,

(21:43):
which recognized gold as money,and we've kind of just moved
away from that ever since then.
And uh, anyways, it's goingthrough here, it's talking about
just gold has uh absolutelyincreased in value.
And with the new Basil IIIrules, which this is all like
high finance stuff, but theytook effect in 2022 and they
were fully implemented thisyear.
And uh they explicitlyreclassified allocated gold as a

(22:06):
zero risk risk weight asset, andsilver is closely behind it.
So we are actually, it lookslike you know, the masters of
the universe are moving centralbanks and banks back into like a
sound money system, they'retrying to back the fiat currency
with something uh you knowtangible in the bank.
So it'll be interesting to seehow that goes.
Is it is it almost time?

SPEAKER_19 (22:26):
Uh it's not nothing lighting up yet.
Okay.

SPEAKER_17 (22:30):
So one of the other things, too, talking about banks
and banks trying to get moresolid, is with all of the
government weaponization.
Obviously, I got debanked.
I say that all the time.
You I cannot, I cannot sometimesI say I was talking to Ivan
Raikon.
He's a popular guy on X, runsaround uh Washington, D.C.,

(22:52):
often ends up sitting behindpeople that are uh speaking in
congressional hearings.
So you'll see him on like C-SPANall the time, sitting in the
back.

SPEAKER_19 (22:59):
He's not one of these like DTF hat guys, is he?

SPEAKER_17 (23:03):
No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_19 (23:04):
Donald Trump forever.

SPEAKER_17 (23:06):
No, he's uh he's a former uh intelligence officer,
lieutenant colonel or colonel.
Oh, so he's there for real.
Yeah, he's there for real.
He's trying to influence policyand things like that.
So, anyways, I was talking tohim on the phone and I was
saying, yeah, you know, I gotarrested and then I got audited
and then debanked, and then he'slike, Man, it makes my blood
boil just hearing you talk aboutthat so nonchalantly.

(23:27):
And I'm like, Yeah, I mean, I'vebeen wanting to go back to
January to uh DC for January6th, and it's funny.
I'm like, no big deal, right?
It's all over.
I'm pardoned.
I just want to go back and seeit.
And everybody's like, Don't go,oh my gosh.
Like, really?
Still?
Well, this is Jamie Diamondtalking about the issue
specifically of debanking.
He's got an interesting way oftake on this.
He's like, look, it's thegovernment's fault.

(23:48):
Don't blame the banks.
Uh, you know, we all have togrow up here.
I don't know, man.
Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_31 (23:56):
Did you send over the bank records of Devin Nunez
or Trump supporters to thespecial counsel when he wanted
that information?

SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
People have to grow up here, okay?
And stop making up things andstuff like that.
So, and I can't talk about anindividual account.
We do not bank people, debankpeople so religious or political
affiliations.
We do deban them.
They have religious andpolitical affiliations.
We debank people who areDemocrats, we debank people who
are Republicans, we've debankeddifferent religious folks.

(24:26):
Never was that for that reason.
And that's number one.
Number two is I don't likedebank people.
We live under very strict rulesand regulations and
requirements.
And to protect the country, andwe have to report things to the
government, we're required toreport things to the government.
I can't even tell you when we doit, because I'm not going to
tell you that either.
Uh uh and so I've I want tochange these rules.
I actually applaud the Trumpadministration who's trying to

(24:48):
say the debanking's bad and weshould change the rules.
Well, damn it, I've been askingto change the rules now for 15
years.
So change the rules.
And you know, and that's why alot of this stuff takes place.
It is really customerunfriendly.
And, you know, we're debankingpeople because of suspected
things or negative media or allthese various things.
So uh uh and the last thing,which is really important, we we

(25:09):
don't give information to thegovernment just because they
ask.
We're subpoenaed.
We are required by court to giveit to the government.
And I've been followingsubpoenas with this
administration, the lastadministration, the
administration before that, andthe one before that.
And I don't agree with a lot ofit.
You know, the government does alot of things that get angry
with banks.
So let's just let's just take adeep breath and fix the problems

(25:30):
as opposed to like blame someonewho's put in that position.
So uh and we've been quite clearabout this.
We've given recommendations tothe government how they can fix
it, how we can change the rulesand regulations to dramatically
reduce reporting and de-bankingand things like that.
And I would tell the governmentif if we see something that
might possibly be bad, we'llreport it to you and you decide.

(25:50):
Why do we have to decide?
That's the position we'reputting in.

SPEAKER_17 (25:55):
So you what he just admitted there is the big banks
are just extensions of thegovernment.
Uh-huh.
The government's delegated totheir decisions.
Yeah.
Well, we can't violate theirrights, but you can.
We don't even like doing it.
We don't like doing that.
Yeah.
He's admitting, like, first ofall, government's weaponized.
I don't agree with a lot ofthese subpoenas.
We debank people.

(26:15):
Yeah, they've got religious andpolitical affiliations.
Beside the point, we debunk themfor all kinds of reasons.
Suspicion, bad media, badnegative.
Uh, that sounds like socialcredit score assessments.
Like some bad media.
You're gonna debank someone?
Wow, that's interesting.
So you you'll you'll uh do allthe banking for Jeffrey Epstein,

(26:36):
but you won't you won't bank fora January 6th defendant.

SPEAKER_19 (26:38):
Well, he's got a lot of money.

SPEAKER_17 (26:40):
Yeah.
Now, obviously, when it came toDonald Trump being debanked from
them, that was like a huge deal.
Are we ready now?
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SPEAKER_17 (27:48):
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SPEAKER_17 (27:52):
That's awesome.
Yes, gotta have your coffee atthe gate going in the morning.
Okay, so let's jump over to thisJ6 pipe bomb situation.
Oh.
I gotta admit, I immersed myselfin this case this weekend, and I
am more disgusted than I haveever been.

SPEAKER_19 (28:04):
Okay.
Like I can't even I'm actuallyglad that that's how you feel
because I do too.

SPEAKER_17 (28:08):
I can't even begin to tell you how I like.
I'll tell you what.
You know, they're straight uplying to us, right?
Dude, I have no other conclusionto come to.
All right.
There's these moments in timewhere you see something and it's
like you have a chance to getaway.
There's this moment.
You see the corruption, you seethe rot, you see the branches

(28:30):
about to fall over the spotyou're gonna walk.
And it's like you have a choice.
Do I stop?
Do I turn around and run?
You know, do I do I engage withthis?
This is one of those momentsthis weekend for me where I'm
like, oh, oh, I thought theywere changing.
Oh, oh, I thought they werereforming.
Uh, I thought this this wasgonna be over for us.
And I say us plurally, likeJanuary 6th, and I'm like, oh
no, we're still in the middle ofit.

SPEAKER_19 (28:52):
Okay, I saw a clip this morning.
Well, it's on the can.
So so uh, but I have to, this isthe right moment to bring it up.
So a guy was talking about uhthe book from Alexander
Solesnichin.
Uh I can't The ArchipelagoGulag.
Yes, and he's talking about oneof the main points of the whole
book, and the and the main pointis is that we know the

(29:14):
government's lying to us, theyknow that we know that they're
lying to us, and then they stilllie to us, and then we don't do
anything about it, and that'sthe point.
They're able to lie to our facesand get away with it, and that's
power over people.
That's raw power.
That's raw power.

SPEAKER_17 (29:34):
This is also raw power here.
I wanna this is the first timeI've ever seen a good quality
aerial shot of January 6th.
Okay, so this is early in themorning.
This is probably like 6 30, 6.

SPEAKER_19 (29:45):
Okay, before I show this, remember, can you tell us
how many people they said showedup?

SPEAKER_17 (29:50):
There's been estimates.
I've seen low estimates at halfa million, I've seen high
estimates at two plus billion.
Okay, okay.
But this was probably six, sixthirty in the morning.
No speaking was gonna start tilllike 10 30 or 11.
Okay.
This is just people filling in,right?
This is the this drone, whoeversent this up, is right next to

(30:13):
the uh Washington Memorial here,the monument.
So there's the Capitol, but Imean, this is a large area here,
this is more than a footballfield plus, right?
Just packed, and you can seeit's just starting to go.
I ended up watching it right uphere by this right in front of
this Megatron thing.
There's the White House all theway up there, not filled in all

(30:35):
the way too.
So people are just converginginto this place, right?
So I wanted to show that videothere because it was a
generically peaceful morning,lots of spontaneous singing of
the national anthem and stufflike that.
And obviously, this whole thinggot derailed when these two pipe
bombs were discovered, whichcaused this security incident,
which is precisely the quotefrom my trial from the Capitol,

(30:57):
then the chief of police, right,came in and said there was a
security incident caused us todivert agents, and that allowed
the crowd to basically imposeitself on the Capitol building.
And along you've got Ray Appsand a bunch of stuff that's
happening.
Well, they finally found thepipe bomber last week.
Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-oldautistic boy living in his

(31:19):
parents' basement 50 miles fromthe Capitol, happened to be the
one, and they had the data andthe information all along, but
they chose to ignore it.
Well, he gets arrested.
We're all kind of like, huh,that's interesting.
There is thing after thing afterthing.
They're telling us that this isthe guy who's walking in the
gray sweats at night.
There's been no gate analysis.
When you run the picture, hitfull-size body picture of him,

(31:41):
full-size body picture of thegate, the the bomber and the
proportions are off.
You can't fake it.
It's just AI says zero percentpossibility of a match.
But then you see some.
There's a one image of Carrie,the Capitol Hill police officer.
She's walking and she's got thatslight limp, and there's an
overlay with the bite ball.
I mean, it's precise.

(32:02):
It's precise.
Size, the the angle of the body,the arm, everything.
Just absolutely perfect.

SPEAKER_19 (32:09):
Yeah, even if you wanted to argue about it, okay.
You know, nice try.

SPEAKER_17 (32:13):
Yes.
Okay, so let's go over a couplethings.

SPEAKER_19 (32:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_17 (32:17):
First and foremost, this young man has been uh
arrested.
He's in detention.
He's unlikely to make bond oranything like that.
This is Julie Kelly on the warroom.
I believe that I'm the firstperson to make this news broadly
known.
The prosecutor in this case isnamed Jocelyn Ballantyne.
Okay.
Jocelyn Ballantyne was theprosecutor on the Proud Boys

(32:39):
cases.
So I I X'd this out to EnriqueAntario and he lit up.
This was I informed him, and heturned around and called
everybody he knew about it.
He did a couple of interviewsover the weekend.
This is weird stuff.
So this is what Julie Kelly hasto say about it.

SPEAKER_26 (33:10):
So you know this better than anybody because you
were essentially an eyewitnessto this.
Now, you have also been, sinceDarren Beattie's in the
government and Raheem's doingother stuff right now, uh you
you're really one of our leadwatchdogs, if not the lead, on
this whole thing with the pipebomb.
And you informed me last night,and I can't believe it because

(33:31):
my it I my head's still blown upfrom when you told me that the
FBI agents and the leadattorney, the prosecutor on this
case with the pipe bomber is oneof the worst prosecutors, one of
the worst demons that were outthere prosecuting the J6, the J6

(33:52):
uh folks.
How could that possibly Julie?
You must have gotten this onewrong.
You're your your track record'sa hundred percent, but on this
one, Julie Kelly must be wrong.
This can't possibly be true, canit, ma'am?

SPEAKER_34 (34:04):
As I tell my husband all the time, of course I'm
right.
Yes, I'm right.
I'm never wrong.
Never.
Um, unfortunately, I wish thatthis was not true.
Um and I guess my only thoughthere is that the new leadership
at the DOJ and FBI are not awareof who this individual is,

(34:26):
Jocelyn Valentine.

SPEAKER_17 (34:28):
Who was they're just not aware of who their lead
prosecutor in this huge J6 caseis, just who she is.
So just some random lionattorney picked up this, you
know, case of total importance.
The lead prosecutor.

SPEAKER_34 (34:42):
She led the team of government lawyers, DOJ lawyers,
who went after the Proud Boy.
I and I covered that trial,right?
I covered that in 2023.
She is among the worst of theworst when I was asked to help
submit names of J6 prosecutorswho should be fired.

(35:03):
She was towards the top of thelist.

SPEAKER_26 (35:06):
Um, so I have no idea how to do that.
Oh, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie,Jolie, hang on, hang on.
She treated the the Proud Boysgot a totally fair trial.
She didn't pull any uh fastones, she didn't entrap anybody.

SPEAKER_17 (35:19):
She was Okay, so I went and listened to Enrique
Antario talk about thisprosecutor.
Before he got sentenced, theypassed a piece of literally,
this woman sat in a room, passeda piece of paper over him with a
narrative written on it.
You know, Trump encouraged youthrough a third-party
intermediary to storm theCapitol and take over the
government, right?
And he's like, I don't agreewith that.
22-year sentence.

(35:40):
Okay.
He they were basically saying,You won't go to jail.
You know, we need thisnarrative.
She, that prosecutor, slippedthat paper over to him.
Okay, it was that prosecutorthat was spying on the phone
calls.
They sent over the discoverywith all the information.
And as they were going throughit, someone's like, Hey, there's
a there's a tab here that sayshidden.
They clicked on hidden, and itwas all the the emails and text
messages that they excluded fromthe discovery, and it was the

(36:03):
collusion.
And they had that they weremonitoring the attorney client
privilege phone calls, whichshould have been an automatic
mistrial.
And Judge Kelly was like, it'snot relevant.
Well the the the the the amountof things this prosecutor did is
legion.
We're gonna talk about just afew of them as we continue.
Above board, was she not, ma'am?
Why are you picking on her?

SPEAKER_34 (36:21):
She was not, and I have a piece up that I posted
last night when I disclosed thisthat Jocelyn Valentine is the
lead prosecutor in the BrianCole Jr.
uh pipeline case.
I covered her, and this was ahuge scandal during the Cowboys
childhood force no one wascovering.
The defense team discovered thestrategy of the FBI for evidence

(36:47):
going back and forth.
Your agents were talking aboutdetermining evidence.
They were talking aboutprevailing fighting on
eavesdropping on communicationsbetween cowboys who are all in
pre-trial detention and theirattorney.
They were attempting thatcommunication and some other

(37:09):
malfeators found the spreadsheetaccidentally, of course.
And they wanted to use this asevidence.
They were they were at the timequestioning an FBI agent, a
government witness, and theywere going to start presenting
what they found in thespreadsheet.
Judge Tim Kelly, who by the way,is good friends with Jocelyn

(37:30):
Valentine, they worked togetherin the DCUS attorney's office,
they worked on cases together.
Judge Kelly abruptly cuts offthe questioning as the defense
attorney is about to presentthis evidence to the government
witness.
A day or two later, JocelynValentine goes into court and
claims that that communicationrepresents classified secret,

(37:53):
classified information andshould be withheld from the
jury.
Which, of course, the judge canbe.
That's just one example of whathe did leading the team of the
prosecutors against the cowboys,or of course, then convicted of
sedition's conspiracy.

(38:14):
Then she went ahead and tried tothrow the book at them and put
some of them in prison for life,like in Luigi Tario, who ended
up getting a funny two prisonsentence.
And so, of course, they were allcommuted by the president and
would be hang on, hang on, hangon, hang on.

SPEAKER_19 (38:30):
It's just horrible.
Like, yeah, so let's do it.

SPEAKER_17 (38:34):
So unfortunately, this is one of those topics
that's so big, we can't reallygo into great detail.
You've got to go and get thesource material.
So, you, the listeners here whokind of rely on this show to get
your information, you're justgonna have to trust me.
This is bad news bears.
There's nothing good about this.
She should have been top of thelist of people to be fired.
And when I go through the listof cases she's been involved in,
you're gonna go, OMG.

(38:55):
So, first of all, uh, this iscoming from Tony Segura.
He's an online sleuth, hereports a lot of stuff.
Um, the Justice Department ispaying attention.
Why is Ballantyne still in thejustice, let alone working the
Brian Cole Jr.
pipe bomber case and theRamalalula Lakalawal case, the
Afghan National accused ofshooting two West Virginia
National Guard members.
So she's not only covering theguard case, but she's also now

(39:17):
covering the pipe bomb case.
FYI, these are Cole's Jr.'snumbers that will be invaluable
in a successful prosecution.
So he's got the numbers here.
There's an X for the lastnumbers, not fully doxing them.
And what they did is they didopen source commercial
information.
I want the cell phone pings.
You can just go buy thisinformation.
Okay.
Right?
Private investigators and stufflike this.
This is how they figure outwhere your cheating spouse has

(39:38):
been.
They just go bing, where's hebeen?
Lastly, why is Ballantynemeeting privately away from DC
with Bill Barr, RepresentativeEric Swalwell, Representative
Addict Swift, and former WhiteHouse counsel Don McGann.

SPEAKER_19 (39:49):
Adam Schiff.

SPEAKER_17 (39:50):
So then it comes over here the J6 Bibomber in BLM
Antifa, tracking devices linkedto Brian Cole and using a BLM
and Antifa overlay of knownprotest events, many overlap.
But we need a triple check allthe data.
There are multiple anomalies,including date time not matching
the carrier logs.
However, we confirm that one ofthese devices visited Fort Bragg
in November 2020 and made overhalf a dozen visits to Camp

(40:11):
Barrett and the FBI AcademyVisitor Center in February,
March of 2021.
Fort Bragg is in North Carolina.
North Carolina is where TomTillis is.
Anytime something J6 comes up,because that's where they run
their PSYOP division out of, allthe North Carolina senators and
representatives lose their mind.
They're protecting Fort Bragg,clearly.
Okay.
So then he goes on to continuehere.

(40:36):
Oh, maybe that was it on thatone.
Yeah, that's it for that post.
So Jocelyn Bennett doing the DCshooter case and doing the J6
pipe bomber case.
Michael Flynn Jr., who's GeneralFlynn's son.
How many judges are there?
It just seems like such a weirdcoincidence.
There's like 16 on the DCcircuit judges.

(40:58):
Okay.
Prosecutors, hundreds, dozen,you know, quite a few.
So again, why you see the thefact that we know these names
and they're on infamous caseafter infamous case is defies
the odds.
That's what I'm saying.
Now, if these were like realkids, like Rudy Giuliani was the
guy, like, of course he's at thetop of all the cases for against

(41:18):
the mob or whatever.
So this is Michael Flynn Jr.
Why is Jocelyn Ballantyne stillemployed at the Justice
Department?
For those who don't remember herties to General Flynn, she is a
career prosecutor with the USADepartment of Justice,
specializing in nationalsecurity cases.
She has been directly involvedin high-profile prosecutions,
most notably as one of the leadattorneys on the team that
handled the criminal caseagainst retired Lieutenant

(41:39):
General Michael Flynn, PresidentTrump's national security
advisor.
Their professional intersectionstems from Flynn's 2017, quote,
guilty plea to making falsestatements to the FBI about his
conversations with Russianambassador Sergei Kislyak.
A charge that arose from theFBI's crossfire hurricane
investigation into potentialties with the Trump campaign in
Russia, something we know thatwas all made up and completely

(42:00):
fabricated.
Key details, assignment ofevidence, handling Ballantyne
joined the prosecution's teamafter special counsel Robert
Mueller's office wrapped up in2019.
She was responsible for filingcourt documents, including
responses to Flynn's motions andhandling discovery materials.
In 2020, the DOJ admitted toinadvertently altering key
evidence.
Oopsie's handwritten notes fromformer Deputy Director Andrew

(42:22):
McCabe and Peter Strzok byadding dates that suggest the
notes were from specificmeetings, including one
potentially involving then VicePresident Joe Biden.
They were dating things to putthe insert to insert a narrative
where there was none, right?
Ballantyne defended thesedocuments at court filings,
claiming they were unalteredbased on cons consultations with

(42:43):
the FBI agents' lawyers throughcorrespondence.
Later revealed those lawyersexplicitly refused to vouch for
their accuracy.
But don't worry, she did it forthem.
In May 2020, under the AttorneyGeneral William Barr's review,
the DOJ moved to dismiss Flynn'scase, arguing the FBI's
interview of Flynn lacked alegitimate investigative purpose
and that the prosecutioncouldn't prove guilt beyond a
reasonable doubt.
Notably, Ballantyne declined tosign the initial dismissal

(43:05):
motion filed by acting attorneyTimothy Shea, signaling internal
DOJ disagreements.
She did sign a revised versionand subsequent appellate briefs
defending the dismissal.
Flynn's defense attorney, SidneyPowell, accused Ballantine of
provided providing redacted FBIinterview reports through O2
forms that omitted crucialexculpatory details and

(43:25):
submitted all uh submittingaltered exhibits to the court.
So, of course, the judge gotinvolved.
But then the question is again,what is going on here?
How can you have the sameprosecutor that's in charge of
mishandling everything about theFlynn case, including the
prosecution of him that was, youknow, should have been fit
illegally flawed from itsinception?

(43:47):
And who's supposed to defend thedefendant?
I don't know.
Anyone who takes an oath to theconstitution that's supposed to
defend the rights of theindividual.
Okay, even if you do work forthe government, you're still
supposed to defend the rights ofthe individual.
Okay.
Flub that one up.
Then you turn around and sheends up prosecuting the Proud
Boys, a completely uh derangedprosecution.

(44:07):
And now she's on the pipe bombercase.
She should have been fired afterthe Flynn case.
She definitely should have beenfired after the Proud Boys case.
Now it's like, okay, if you fireher now, is this a Mia Koopa?
Or are we just watching thecontinuation of the pipe bomb
plan?
Does that make sense?
Like, what if they held this inreserve for this very moment?
How do you know this the actorthat played along with all of

(44:29):
this nonsense is still in chargeof all of the case?

SPEAKER_19 (44:32):
Well, it only took us five years to get here.

SPEAKER_17 (44:35):
Yeah.
So so then here, right, BriannaMorello, D.C.
federal prosecutor JocelynBallantyne, is a prosecuting the
January 6th Pipon case.
Odd given her previousaccusations of corruption, I
have reached out to JudgeJanine's office for comment
regarding these allegations,including she also helped Jack
Smith target President Trump inhis January 6th political hit
job, trying to give Proud BoyEnrique and Tyro no prison time

(44:57):
if he lied about President Trumpworking with him to orchestrate
J6 and using invalid attorneyidentification number in the
Justice Department's shockingmotion filed last week to
dismiss the case against herformer National Security
advisor, Michael Flynn.
This is no different than MarineComey getting Epstein, Glaine
Maxwell, Diddy.
And it's like, wow, all thesecases that allegedly out on the

(45:20):
internets in the conspiracyworld are alleged to have ties
to some of the most powerfulpeople in the country.
And what do we end up with abunch of failed charges in
Diddy's case?
And he's essentially a glorifieddomestic violent wife beater.

SPEAKER_19 (45:33):
Sure.

SPEAKER_17 (45:33):
And he got a sentence that was equivalent to
my sentence for pushing gates.

SPEAKER_19 (45:37):
Right.

SPEAKER_17 (45:38):
I should have brought some baby oil with me to
January 6th.
This is crazy.
Costco amounts.
Good heavens.
So this is Corinne Clifford.
She's an independent journalist,and she's one of these
journalists that does invaluableuh sourcing because she goes out
and actually beats down thestreet.
She's not just putting outpropaganda and writing articles
and scanning X.

(46:00):
She's actually going out andmeeting with these people.
She went out and met with thefamily of Brian Cole.
Okay.
Brian Cole Jr.
Now, I saw a post from BriannaMorello who was in the courtroom
when Brian Cole was arraigned.
His family was in tears.
They were in shock.
They do not believe this is thepipe bomber.
They absolutely believe he'sinnocent.
This kind of set me off a littlebit because I've been in the

(46:22):
courtroom and there you can'thide that emotion.
Okay.
So the fact that his familythinks he's innocent, keep in
mind he's been living in thebasement for five years.
You think at some point, youknow, he might have noticed the
sneakers or noticed the uh pipeball material building up in the
garage, okay?
But they don't feel that way atall.

SPEAKER_00 (46:40):
So my name is Corinne Clifford.
I'm a very serious independentjournalist.
If you know the work that I do,you'll understand where I'm at
right now.
I am in the neighborhood inWoodbridge, Woodbridge,
Virginia, where the alleged pipebomber lives.
I'm not doxing anything.
It's a very cute neighborhood.
And guess what?
I just spoke to his mother,Delicia.

(47:03):
And she's got a beautiful name,Delicia.
And she's a a beautiful woman.
And she and I just criedtogether because she says that
her son is innocent.
I didn't tape record her.
I didn't videotape her.
I didn't set her up.
I wrote a letter.
I gave it to her.
I gave it to the neighbors.
If there's any information,everyone can call me and text me

(47:26):
at 917-287-1314.
But I want you all to know Ilive for Jesus Christ, our Lord
and Savior.
And if a black man is accused ofsomething he didn't do, I will
spend the rest of my life onthis news story.
This is very banned andcensored, dangerous news now.

(47:46):
I don't know all the factsbecause I was told by
journalists like Steve Baker twomonths ago that the pipe bomber
was a white all-American lesbianfemale who allegedly, allegedly
works for the CIA.
But I just knocked on DeliciaCole, the mother of Brian Cole
Jr.
I just knocked on her door.

(48:07):
She answered and we criedtogether.
So I'm not exploiting thesituation.
I'm telling you that I'm on thescene here in a Virginia, in
Woodbridge, Woodbridge,Virginia.
I'm not gonna dox the address.
I'm not gonna get into thismore, but if you can see my
face, I take this veryseriously.
And I want you to understandthat my journalism is real.

(48:29):
I am here with uh someone thathelps me a lot.
Um, he's a beautiful black mannamed Ethan.
I don't want to dox him, but Ido have a bodyguard with me and
I have other people.
One of the neighbors in thisneighborhood threatened to punch
me.
A white man threatened to punchme.
Another white man took myinformation and said if he had
information, he would uh tellme.

(48:50):
But uh Brian Cole Jr.
has a dog that he takes reallygood care of.
He keeps to himself.
He's around 30 years old.
Allegedly, he's autistic.
Uh, I asked his mother, is yourson a Trump supporter?
Are you a Trump supporter?
Of course, she wouldn't answerme, which I take is that they're
not Trump supporters.
But what I told her is that thistime last year, I had what,

(49:11):
2,158 American patriots uharrested.
And if her son is innocent, Iwill go to the ends of the earth
to help him.
She doesn't know what jail orprison her son is in right now,
and um, I gave her a little bitof help in that direction.
But this is a really seriousnews story.
I'm not trying to lookglamorous, I'm not trying to say
I'm cool.

(49:31):
My name is Corinne Clear.

SPEAKER_17 (49:33):
Anyways, she, you know.
Over the weekend, you know,allegedly, oh, we got a
confession out of him.
We met with them for four hoursbefore arraignment.
We got a confession out of them.
Well, this Jocelyn Ballantinehas a record of getting false
confessions even from a general.
General Flynn.
Enrique Antario, all the ProudBoys.

(49:53):
In fact, some of them did flip,and they've since recanted and
done affidavits saying thatthey, you know, got time off
their sentence.
Uh, one of the things that VivaFry, and going through this
guy's history, becauseinstantly, you know, the
internet knows everything, he'sgot accounts and some scandalous
websites, and you know, prettyclassic story.
Hey, look, uh, you can havethese charges, or you can buy
some end caps at Home Depot thisweek.

(50:15):
Right.
Okay, Mike Benz went through thewhole time frame of this, and
it's too uncanny, right?
When they were doing theelection integrity project, the
the uh pedestal war game planfor keeping Trump out of office
that same weekend when they weremeeting, this guy's buying stuff
at a Home Depot nearby.
Like it just looks too much.
Steve Dantuano, who was the FBIstation chief up in uh during

(50:39):
the mission Michigan kidnappingplot, where they had informants
basically creating that wholekidnapping situation, gets
transferred DC.
Boom.
This guy's buying stuff at HomeDepot.
It just feels like and now youhave the prosecutor who was the
hammer that put the last nail inthe coffin on all these
entrapment cases, is the leadprosecutor on this case.

(51:00):
Oh, but don't worry, they got athey got a confession from the
autistic boy four hours in.
Oh, we're good to go now.
We know we know who the mismatchgray sweatpant person is with
this short-legged guy.
That's the other thing, he's gotlike abnormally short legs, so
it totally doesn't work.
Okay, CNN, you know, they're alittle shocked.
They're like, well, maybe umthis just isn't what people
thought.
Maybe we need to go deeper onour re-education.

(51:22):
If MAGA is penetrating blackAmerica, what he says.

SPEAKER_32 (51:26):
Maybe he put a bomb at the DNC because he was he
believed the Democrats stole theelection because Republicans and
conspiracy theorists pushedthat, and he put the bomb at the
RNC because the vice presidentwho was about to be um sworn in
was going to ride by uh uh thatarea.
There are many scenarios thatthe prosecution will have to
play out the case.

(51:47):
I'm just gonna I'm gonna say thething out loud that I think
everyone is not saying and isactually surprising and why I
think Janine Piro is actuallysaying it.
I think the fact that this manis a black man is surprising to
people.
I think people thought this wasgonna be a white man that did
this.
They were gonna be able to sayhe was a part of the progressive
left.
And the fact that it's a blackman that is saying I too was
susceptible to conspiracytheorists that the president and

(52:09):
uh conservative podcasts werepushing that this election was
stolen, is uh a fact that theywere not expecting, and now
everyone is on their heels andthey're trying to spin it.
And I think that might be alsowhy you think, let's not believe
his actual story right now.
Like if he's trying to getspeculated.

SPEAKER_19 (52:27):
I didn't understand what she was saying.
What was her argument?
She wants to have her cake andeat it too.
That's what it boils down to.
Okay.

SPEAKER_17 (52:33):
Well, this is a black man, and you know, clearly
he was believing the lies.
This is just devastating.
We thought it would be a whiteleft, you know, they were they
were hoping it would be a leftliberal, but it turns out to be
a black, you know, theallegation that he's a Trump
supporter generally, you know,supports the Trump, but he's got
some anarchist views.
The problem with the wholegeneric anarchist views is like
Ron, you and I could be accusedof anarchist views because we

(52:55):
don't like building permits.
Like and we think taxation istheft, you know, the oldest
tradition of Americans.

SPEAKER_19 (53:03):
Yeah, but yeah, oh, we're we're I'll throw some tea
in the harbor.

SPEAKER_17 (53:06):
Yeah.
So we're anarchists too, and wegenerally think the 2020
election was a little shady.
Oh, great.
Now that's us and like 65% ofthe rest of the country.
Now, this uh white guy on CNN, Idon't even know who he is, he
offers kind of this is what Icall the uh concede the premise
or or concede the whole case,but try to just soften the blow.

SPEAKER_18 (53:29):
A different theory potentially on this.
This guy's clearly warped in hishead.
He gets arrested.
He realizes, well, the Trump DOJis in charge.
President Trump is the presidentof the United States.
Maybe if I tell them it wasbecause I thought the election
was stolen, they'll take it easyon me.
And his warped mind.
No, but I mean, I'm just saying,like you put bombs on both
sides.
But are you saying all of asudden he's a truth guy?

(53:50):
And everybody says maybe adifferent theory.

SPEAKER_19 (53:54):
This is the dumbest game ever.
Hey, let's guess what theautistic kid was thinking.

SPEAKER_17 (54:02):
The autistic kid is thinking, I want to go home to
mommy and Michael.
So Birkenbind says, uhBirkenbind says, doesn't know
where he's being held, themother.
Yeah, but this is commonpractice.
When you first get arraigned,you you're they can't, if you're
in transport, like likely he'sgonna end up in the DC gulag.
Right?
He's gonna he's gonna end up inprotective custody there.
So they're not gonna releasepublicly where he's being held

(54:24):
until he's in his final place,he's nice and safe, and nobody
can get him, right?
They don't want it, they don'twant you to be tipped off or
watching for transport.
So that is not unusual practice.
It would happen with a DUI guyand especially with a national
security person.
Yeah, because there's gonna bepeople all over, even just to
sow chaos to try to stage abreakout or something like that.
Sure.

(54:45):
It's just sad reality.
So the big question here is, andthis is where sometimes uh as a
peasant, I sometimes get I havea blind spot to this.
I have a blind spot to this whenit comes to January 6th.
I just want to go back to DC forJanuary 6th.
And everybody in my life's like,dude, you're freaking crazy,
right?
And it's like, well, why is itwhy is it crazy?
I uh in my mind, I should be outof the woods, right?

(55:06):
Like, I'm back to the good oldBoy Scout, you know, five kids,
like homeschool dad, like I'mback to that life.
Yeah, but the reality is ourgovernment is built to lie.
How do you end up with a DEAagent with cops all around him,
by the way, embezzling$12million?
How do you end up with CrossfireHurricane?
How do you end up with indictingGeneral Flynn on a completely

(55:28):
made-up premise and a lie?
How do you end up with theWhitmer kidnapping plot?
Like, how do you end up withthis stuff?
Like some things you see, youcan see it kind of generating
organically.
Sometimes with that Antifa, itfeels really organic.
Like, oh, it's dissatisfactionwith housing prices.
Like it's basically when youreject the reject the fact that
you have to finance this month'srent over four years, you know.

(55:49):
When you finally wake up tothat, you'll you'll, you know,
the buses are gonna be free oneway or the other, you know.
At that point, you just throwyour hat in with all the
anarchists when you're like,whatever we're doing, it's not
working.
I get it.
Okay, I get that.
But what about when thegovernment really wants to go
after something?
How big of a lie will thegovernment perpetrate and tell
you and gaslight you what yousaid about Solchanichin, the

(56:11):
archipelago gulag?
We know they're lying.
They know we're lying, but theylie to us anyway, and we do
nothing about it.
Okay, so let's go over a couplebig lies.
And if the government will dobig lies, what would stop them
from doing a small lie?

SPEAKER_14 (56:24):
Of course we attacked Iraq.
I mean, even if we hadn't madeup the whole notion of weapons
of mass destruction, we wouldhave made up something else to
justify an attack on Iraq.
I mean, look at Dick Cheney'sefforts to connect uh Saddam
Hussein with Al-Qaeda.
For those of us inside the CIAwho knew a little bit about Iraq

(56:48):
and about Al Qaeda and aboutIslam, I mean, everybody to a
man would have said there'sliterally nothing Muslim about
Saddam Hussein.
He famously made the Umrah, theminor pilgrimage to Saudi
Arabia, and it was either 1987or 1988.
He went with the vice presidentof Iraq Ibrahim.

(57:08):
Iza Ibrahim was a pious SufiMuslim.
Saddam didn't even know theprayers.
And so when they went to theKaaba to pray, um Iza Ibrahim
knelt just behind Saddam towhisper the prayers to him so
that he could say them out loudand make it look like he knew

(57:29):
what the hell he was doing.
So there was no connectionbetween Al Qaeda and Saddam
Hussein.
Osama bin Laden hated SaddamHussein at least as much as he
hated the United States.
There was no connection there.
But Dick Cheney both countedcorrectly, as it turned out, on
the American people being sostupid and so gullible that they

(57:52):
would just go along with it.

SPEAKER_17 (57:54):
Yeah, well, I guess I literally so stupid and so
gullible that they would just goalong for it.
That we would send our sons anddaughters to go fight Islam in
the most sectarian nation in theMiddle East, the nation that has
the most, the highest literacyrate in the Middle East, has the
lowest poverty rate in theMiddle East, the most doctors
per capita in the Middle East,but I can't have that because he
wants this gold standard andhe's kind of like getting real

(58:16):
protective of his oil and notplaying ball.
You know, and we sold him a lotof weapons in the 80s to fight
Iran and it we got some receiptsthat we need to go, you know, we
need to go recover our yellowcake.
Turns out he'd already used itelsewhere, so we never found
any.
We're pretty damn sure we soldhim some.
Okay, Roosevelt had thereceipts, but they got burnt

(58:39):
down in uh in building seven on9-11.
So we're going off memory here.
How about climate change?
Do you think the governmentwould institute a big climate
change fraud and get us to spendtrillions of dollars and curb
our habits and buy cars withspecial catalytic converters to
lower the emissions rate?
Do you think they would do thatall based on a lie?

SPEAKER_30 (58:58):
Never.
True is retracting a 2024 studypredicting catastrophic economic
toll of climate change.
Several banks used the report tomake risk management plans.
Too bad they didn't hear fromthis take by billionaire
businessman Daniel Pena back in2017.

SPEAKER_25 (59:15):
The best scenario vis-a-vis global warming is
about 10 feet raising water.
That means the southern part ofthe United States is gone.
England is gone, most of Europeis gone.
Let's just take Florida, forexample, which is one of the
fastest growing condominium,beachfront condominiums on the
planet.
Not one single investmentprospectus written since 2000

(59:41):
this century has alluded toglobal warming.

SPEAKER_30 (59:46):
Now one our next guest is making the case that
climate change may have actuallyspared America from hurricanes
this year, some of these years.

SPEAKER_17 (01:00:00):
Like, uh, you know, they've been my parents were
concerned about climate change.
Like at a certain point, it'slike beyond our life, right?
But that he Paina was right in2017 when he said they wouldn't
be given loans on waterfrontcondos.
Now it's getting harder toinsure waterfront condos.
Okay, but nonetheless, you canstill get a bank loan for them.
You just, you know, theinsurance might be more than the
loan.

(01:00:20):
Uh, either way, though, again,another huge lie.
Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein aretight at the hip.
Let's go take them out.
Maybe not.
Oh, hey, climate change.
You know, we need taxation andwe need, you know, limits on
driving and we need to push allkinds of green energy.
Yeah, the science was bogus, butwe see what you're doing with
that money.

(01:00:40):
Okay, that money's not going tofight climate change either.
Now, they'll do that on the bigstuff, right?
They'll send your sons anddaughters to die overseas over
what?
Over what again?
Not really sure what we weredoing in Iraq.
You know, they'll s they'll sendall of your tax money and
regulate to death over a bogusclimate change.

SPEAKER_19 (01:00:58):
Yeah, but but my district makes tanks, so we got
to make tanks.

SPEAKER_17 (01:01:02):
War's good.
War's good.
Okay, now they'll do it even ona personal level.
You want to stand up against thegovernment and the political
regime that's in power?
Even if you think they're onyour side, they might come for
you.
Here's the representative thatDonald Trump just pardoned last
week.

SPEAKER_31 (01:01:16):
Uh tell me specifically, who tried to bribe
you?
You mean Biden's DOJ tried tobribe you?

SPEAKER_21 (01:01:23):
Yes, uh, they did.
You know, we got all the uh thetestimony, the uh the 302s, the
thing operation.
They set up a false uh a falseuh company, uh false account.
They took out money.
We saw all this, they took outthe money and they said this
money was to bribe me.
They they uh you they try to usethis money, they talk to my DC

(01:01:47):
staff, my DC.

SPEAKER_17 (01:01:48):
So my understanding is he was charged for like
conspiracy to accept a bribethat he never accepted, but
turns out the bribe was comingfrom the DOJ.
Oh so he didn't accept thebribe, but since we offered it
to you, we're going to prison.

SPEAKER_21 (01:02:02):
There was nothing there, so they actually returned
the money back to the accountbecause they couldn't bribe me.
So the the Biden administrationuh they tried to entrap me and
try to bribe me, and that thatfailed.
And this is very significantbecause one more thing,
everything came in from the DOJin DC.

(01:02:23):
Everything came from the DOC uhoffice there.
The local office, that is theone in Houston, never got
enough.
And from my sources, they didnot get involved because they
felt there was not a case andthey said we're not gonna get
involved.
The Houston office said we'renot gonna get involved.
It's all the DOJ uh people inWashington, D.C.

(01:02:44):
There's a lot more, and I havetalked to Jim Jordan, and I've
asked Jim Jordan, I want to sitdown with y'all because I think
you all need to investigatethose prosecutors, and you need
to investigate uh theirsupervisors also.

SPEAKER_17 (01:02:58):
Oh, yeah.
Just like we should haveinvestigated the prosecutors and
the supervisors from CrossfireHurricane that prosecuted
General Friend and Donald Trump,and the prosecutors and the
investigators that went afterall the conservatives in Arctic
Frost and Ukraine gate.
And should we just keep going?
Right?
They came after him, you know.
They came after the entirecountry of Iraq, they'll come

(01:03:20):
after all your bank accounts andall your state regulations for
environmental protections.
I mean, what won't they do?
They'll come for everything,they'll eat you alive.
Literally, if you let them,they'll eat you alive, just like
the Somalis have been eatingMinnesota a long time.

SPEAKER_37 (01:03:34):
Logistically, how were these people able to pull
off?

SPEAKER_17 (01:03:38):
Do it, read it.

SPEAKER_19 (01:03:39):
Go back.
Okay, here I go.
Read it.
Boom.
I just found this one.
It looks like steak.
Yeah, I was like, ooh.
Oh, you gotta refresh, refresh.
Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_17 (01:03:49):
Yeah, you gotta do the double tap refresh.
Guys, this is a good one.
This is a steak.
We are going to advertise steak,which is a first on this show.
It's gonna be awesome.
But Ron needs two seconds to doit.
Oh, you're gonna have to hitrefresh again.
Or did it?

SPEAKER_19 (01:04:06):
I don't know.
Something happened.

SPEAKER_17 (01:04:08):
Nobody leave.
Nobody's allowed to leave.
All right, let's go play thisvideo while you key that up
here.
All right, back to this.
Oh, nope, nope, we're doing it.
We're doing it.
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
Tech issues, tech issues, techissues.
No.
Oh, come on.
Oh, too many requests.
All right.
All right.
Flip over here.

(01:04:28):
Let's watch this.
Come back to the.
We gotta read the stake ad.
That's a good one.
Okay, back over here.
They'll they'll rob you blind.

SPEAKER_37 (01:04:34):
Remind us logistically, how were these
people able to pull off thismassive fraud scheme?
Was it just overbilling?

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:41):
Right.
It started out as overbilling.
So the child care center mighthave 60 people officially
enrolled on their books, and 30would show up on a given day,
but they billed as if all 60showed up.
Just straight up overbill.
Over time, it evolved into amuch more brazen scheme where
they would create nonprofits, goregister with the Secretary of

(01:05:01):
State's office, create anonprofit, and then file to join
the food program.
And literally, one day theydidn't exist, the next day they
existed.
The day after that, they wereclaiming to feed 5,000 children
a day.
Their children didn't exist.
So you mentioned thespreadsheets where they just
used a random name generator tomake up names of non-existent
children to show to the state wereally are feeding all these

(01:05:23):
kids, but the kids didn't exist,the food didn't exist.
So it started out asoverbilling, and then it became
billing for non-existent stuff.
They just sent invoices withoutbothering to buy food or
actually feed kids, and that gotextended into some of these
other programs, like the housingstabilization program or some of

(01:05:43):
these other programs likeaddiction recovery, where
they're billing for services notprovided, billing for goods not
provided, and uh the government,state government was just paying
the invoices, no questionsasked.

SPEAKER_17 (01:05:57):
Logistically, how were these people billions of
dollars out the door just likedollar crime?
We're gonna get our stakes.

SPEAKER_19 (01:06:04):
Oh, are we gonna sh we gotta get stakes?
Man, I hope so.
Let's see if I can find again.

SPEAKER_17 (01:06:11):
You gotta find a find the stakes.
Where are they?
Yeah, there you go.
Look at that.

SPEAKER_19 (01:06:15):
Let's try that looks delicious.
Oh, that looks delicious.
Failed to accept I don't know.

SPEAKER_17 (01:06:21):
All right.
Well, uh one of the otherthings, there's uh uh Victor
Davis Hansen is someone that Ijust think has you can keep
trying.

SPEAKER_19 (01:06:29):
I'll keep trying.

SPEAKER_17 (01:06:30):
Victor David Hansen is someone who I think has
excellent political takes, andI've noticed a trend.
So, you know, you can createthese AI avatars, you gotta be
really careful.
Some of my favorite pundits,Victor Davis Hansen, Elon Musk,
when he makes commentary,they're doing these AI videos
where they get them like makingthese big long explanation
videos.
But when you listen to it, theyuse uh transitional phrases that

(01:06:53):
only AI uses, like that arereally kind of disingenuous.
You have to be a little careful.
So, anyways, I had to doublecheck and make sure this one was
real.
So, this is Mark Victor, uh Markuh Victor Davis Hansen on with
Scott Atlas, and he's talkingabout Donald Trump and how he
has just overcome so much.
He's really is aonce-in-a-generation figure.
And I think sometimes weunderestimate everything Donald

(01:07:16):
Trump's been through to get towhere he's at.
And, you know, he's reallyearned the right to be kind of a
no-nonsense president.

SPEAKER_36 (01:07:21):
Cannot think of anybody else who at one point in
2022, 23, was looking at$500million in fines, another 80
million from each carroll.
They had a stormy down, everydiscreet thing about his life
was out there.
That the Steele dossier said hewas urinating on prostitutes,

(01:07:43):
they were attacking him, theytook his name off the ballot in
25 states, they raided his home,they went, they debanked his
wife and son, 93 felonyindictments.
They had impeached him twice,they tried him as a private
citizen that would have brokenany other person.
I mean, if it was me, I would Iwould have been no one could go
through that.
No one could go through that.

(01:08:04):
What they said about him.
No one.
And he was a Nietzschean figure.
The more they did it, thestronger he got.
And he said, fight, fight,fight, and you know, that's who
he is.
There's never gonna be anybodylike that again.
Not in our lifetime.
I am I am certain about that.
No, I'm absolutely sure.
And there's not anybody elsewho's going to say, I'm gonna

(01:08:25):
say whatever I want.
And if you don't like it, that'syour problem.
But I'm gonna try to tell thetruth as I see the truth.
And if I have to use capitalletters or I have to, you know,
tweet a picture of ChrisChristie as overweight, I'll do
it like a kid, and it's yourproblem.

SPEAKER_17 (01:08:42):
Like a kid, it's your problem.
What Donald Trump creates, orthe people that oppose him, they
create, and the left does this.
This is a tactic that was, youknow, really perfected in Soviet
Russia.
It's this noise idea.
You create this constant chaos,and then when people are like,
Can you please stop the chaos?

(01:09:02):
The person causing the chaosobviously has the ability to
stop the chaos.
Adam Carolla describes thisperfectly.

SPEAKER_41 (01:09:08):
Because what they do is they create chaos, and then
at some point they go, look atall the chaos.
And it's like, yeah, I know.
That's because you're doingthat.
And then they go, Don't you wantthe chaos to end?
You know, and so what the thephenomenon that's kind of
interesting with Trump is like,what if I just said as an

(01:09:28):
example, you know, you and yourwife, and your your wife said,
uh, I'd like to go to bed atnight and leave the front door
open.
And you go, I don't want to dothat because like raccoons would
come into the house, a straydog, and they go, No, that's
what I want to do.
And you go, no, no.
And then you come downstairs inthe morning, the trash is all

(01:09:48):
torn through because a family ofraccoons walk through your
living room and so on and soforth.
And then you say to your wife,can we just shut the front door?
Can we just shut the front door?
And she goes, No, no, no.
And you go, I'm shutting thefront door, and you shut the
front door.
She's throwing a fit everysingle, every single night,
every single night.
And then at some point, yourkids just go, just open the

(01:10:10):
front door.
I'm so tired of hearing her.
I'm so tired of the arguing.
And you go, but we shut thefront door and we didn't get any
raccoons.
I know, but I don't want to hearthis anymore.
Just do it, you know, and yougo, fine, we'll do it.
And so you go, oh, you open thefront door.
And now there's raccoons back inthe house, but there's no more
arguing, and at least your kidscan go in the room and shut the

(01:10:30):
door and go to bed, you know?
And so you're kind of it's in away, it's like being
blackmailed, right?
So you go, I don't want thefront door.
I go, yeah, but don't you justwant peace?
Don't you just want some peacein your home?
And you go, okay.
And that's sort of what they do.
They go out and they fighteverything.
It could be ice, it could be aballroom, it could be anything

(01:10:51):
to do with the border, it couldbe any transgender anything.
They just fight everything, andthen at some point they go,
Aren't you tired of the chaos?
Don't you just want some peace?
Don't you want to just get backto normal?
Don't you just want to get somemiddle of the road, somebody,
just put our guy in there, openthe front door, no more
arguments, and we can get onwith our life.

(01:11:12):
Wouldn't that be nice?
And I'm like, it would be nice,but there's an alternative one,
which is you shut the f up.
Like, just let ICE do their job,let the Border Patrol do their
job.
How about you just sit back andlet everyone do their job for 10
minutes?
Let them add a ballroom onto theEast Wing.
How about how about that?

(01:11:32):
Because that's the otheralternative.
I'm gonna shut the front door,you shut the f up, and we'll get
on with our life.
With no raccoon.
You can do that, but you won'tlet that happen.
We just bought a country with noraccoons.

SPEAKER_16 (01:11:46):
That's all we're asking for.
Yeah, but you know, I mean, ifthe climate and and and the
drugs and and the ballroom andand and the piccadillos, you
know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17 (01:11:58):
Now, James Carville, who, you know, oftentimes it's
like this guy's brilliant.
Are we ready to go here?
We get build campaign.
You know, oftentimes JamesCarville has good hot takes, but
this one is kind of hilarious.
It's two different worlds we'reliving in here, right?
For us and kind of our peergroup, we see Donald Trump as a
net positive.
He's doing a lot of good things.

(01:12:19):
Yeah, he's breaking the system.
Yeah, are people unhappy abouttheir snap benefits?
You know, do we have a mirrorthere that's getting sucked into
the snap, cut, you know, cutdown?
Yeah, I mean, the system'sbloated.
It's got we've got to trim thefat to see if we can even save
this thing.
People don't realize how bad itis.
Guys are financing this month'sapartment rent over four years.

(01:12:39):
And you think that's not gonnacompound when they have to, you
know, delay their paying theirapartment rent year after year.
I mean, five years?
I mean, what's the limit here?
You're gonna be 20 years on fiveyears of apartment payments?

SPEAKER_19 (01:12:51):
People realize that our government finances its debt
too.

SPEAKER_17 (01:12:55):
Yeah, it's bad.
These are bad news bears.
So here's James Carville.
He's like, hey, I think Trumpfinally, after everything that's
been thrown at him, he's gottaknow it's almost over.

SPEAKER_44 (01:13:06):
The more the walls closing in on him, the more
dangerous that he gets.
And they're closing in on him.
I can't tell you how fastthey're closing in on him.
No, uh and he knows that.
And I uh you know, I don't wantanybody to get sick, but I I
assume that he's aware uh of thefact that he probably has some

(01:13:27):
pretty significant healthissues.
He's certainly aware of the factthat he has really, really
significant downside politicalstanding right now.
He can't he's not talking aboutJoe Biden if anybody's gonna
please.
He's gotta realize at some pointthat he's appointed a pack of
buffoons that can't do anything,but uh, he's a big enough
buffoon that he may not realizeit.

(01:13:49):
But I I am just worried sickabout the next three years.
And I think your point, becausehe's not gonna get better.

SPEAKER_17 (01:13:58):
He's not gonna get better.
It's gonna be more chaos.
We're gonna make sure of it.
People are gonna be begging forus to come back into power.
Steve Bannon is understood.
Steve Bannon gets it.
Trump loses, Bannon goes back toprison.
Okay, it's that simple.
And you know, some of us whohave been to prison for the last
for, you know, I don't know, forthe last over the during the
last regime, it's a concern.

(01:14:20):
It's a concern.
What are they gonna?
I mean, they're not above takingout a loan to pay a bribe, and
then if you don't take thebribe, they'll still convict you
because they were trying tooffer you one.
Like you took the meeting totell us no, that's a conspiracy
to take a bribe.
Yeah, but I told you no.
But you agreed to take themeeting.
Well, how did I know you weren'tjust a normal political donor?
Ah, you know, you didn't.

(01:14:45):
We won.

SPEAKER_26 (01:14:47):
The truth is on our side because the facts are on
our side.
Joe Biden never got 15 millionvotes, more votes than Barack
Obama.
Impossible.
We didn't pick up net 12 houseseats when we lost the
presidential, impossible.
We didn't win 19 of the 20bellwethers and lose the
presidency, impossible.

(01:15:09):
You generated phony ballots offolks that don't exist, and
that's why you ripped thoseenvelopes and got them.
If not, Rachel Madd will berubbing our nose at look at
this, look at this thing.
Double the envelope, she'sthere, that's her signature,
she's right there, boom, rightthere, right there.
No, in the dark at night, youdid this.
This is why Trump had to standup at 11 o'clock at night and

(01:15:30):
say, Hey, guess what?
I'm up 800,000 in Philadelphia,and we're now gonna take down
that fence.
You ain't blocking us outbecause you're not gonna do some
count.
Remember, the president came outbecause he was tapped along and
by a lot of his staff and a lotof his legal people who just
wanted to get the hell out ofthere.
And said, Oh, yeah, everybody'sgonna stop counting.
We're gonna all gonna stopcounting.

(01:15:51):
We're gonna go home and get somesleep.
You get up at 6 o'clock in themorning.
Hey, they continue to counteverywhere, and guess what?
You're now losing because theygotta count it in the dark of
night.

SPEAKER_17 (01:16:04):
What I think happened in 2024 is I think they
had all their fake ballots,because you still had fake
ballots going in Pennsylvaniaand all Michigan, but I think
that they're killing theDominion machines.
They didn't know how manyballots to print.
It's the same problem they hadin 2020.
They had to backload the ballotsto match the machine to pass to
superficially pass audits,right?

(01:16:26):
And I think this is another oneof those ones where they just
didn't print enough ballots.
They didn't know what themargins were gonna be.
I mean, how high up do we haveto run the score here?
They could produce millions ofballots after the fact, but you
couldn't produce them before thefact.
You needed the votes toregister, you needed those
machines to tell you how manyballots you needed to feed into
the system.
And I wouldn't be surprised ifthey were more sophisticated.

(01:16:47):
Last time, these were flat outBiden dumps.
These might have been hugebatches of ballots, one-third,
two-thirds or something.
Like it could have been reallybad.
Donald Trump is a pretty much amaster at foreign.
You know, one of someone I careabout this weekend said, you
know, I'm a little disappointedin Trump's been focusing on
foreign stuff and not domesticstuff.

(01:17:10):
First of all, I believe he'sbeen focused on both equally.
But yeah, you don't understandif you can't the a lot of our
domestic problems are because ofour foreign problems.
You know, that whole free tradenightmare causing domestic
problems.
You can't fix the job marketunless you can fix the quote
unquote free trade problem thatwe have, right?
You can't fix the housing marketunless you can quote unquote get

(01:17:31):
some of these countries toaccept some of these immigrants
back or these illegals back.
I mean, there's like it'supsetting our markets for sure.
So one of these things is youknow, trying to bring peace to
the Middle East, and Israel'salways been kind of a thorn.
They're our ally, the otherMiddle Eastern countries are
not.
Well, obviously, during thewhole Palestinian-Iran conflict,

(01:17:52):
and then Israel goes out andstrikes Qatar and the whole
thing.
Well, Tucker Carlson wasinterviewing one of these
representatives from Qatar, he'sover there this weekend, I
think, and um, they shared avery insightful thing about
Donald Trump and one of thethings he did to advance the
peace along by kind of puttingIsrael in check and for the
first time in living memory, uhforcing Israel to apologize to

(01:18:14):
the Arab world.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:15):
President Trump basically told the Israelis to
apologize to you.
He took your side against Israelin this specific case.
I don't think I've ever seenthat before.
I don't think it's ever happenedbefore.
What was your reaction to that?

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:29):
President Trump was very clear from the beginning
since the attack.
When he was informed about theattack, he assigned one of his
advisors to reach out to us.
At the same time, he called hishighness after the attack and he
expressed his frustration, hisdisappointment from such a thing
that's happening by Israel.
You know, this kind of move wasshocking for him.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:49):
It was his peace process that was short-circuited
by their bombing using Americanmoney.
You're saying that the presidentdidn't know that was going to
happen.
He was surprised.

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:59):
He he called us right away.
The his advisors reached out tous a couple of minutes before
the attack, which was like theattack was already happening.
It was a very cleardemonstration with all the
actions that this is somethinghappened against his will and he
doesn't accept it.

SPEAKER_17 (01:19:15):
Surprising.
It's surprising how big a dealthat is.
The Biden administration, andeven the Obama administration,
would have taken days, theywould have probably backed
Israel and pretended like theyapproved the strike, or you know
what I mean?
But instead, Trump just like, noway.
In fact, it set precedent forTrump because now Trump's like,
yeah, you can buy our bombs, butwe're not backing you in any

(01:19:36):
way.
Like you're on your own how youuse them.
Whereas the supposition beforewas be would be if you're
selling bombs to some countryand they use them, that you've
you're warrantying those bombs.
That that was really the ideahere.
And Trump is turning that on itshead, where he's like, No,
Israel's responsible for its ownactions.
And I imagine other countriesthat take military action using

(01:19:57):
our weaponry, the same responsewill be had.
This is Donald Trump talkingabout chip manufacturing and
bringing chip manufacturing tothe U.S.
He's forecasting, you know,there's trouble brewing in
Taiwan, and best not to let thatkey industry, chip
manufacturing, be exclusively aTaiwanese product.

SPEAKER_27 (01:20:13):
Gonna go on for a long time.
Uh and he better not be rightabout that.
That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_24 (01:20:21):
Could this minimize the impact of the U.S.
with chips?
Should China decide to isolateTaiwan or China decide to take
Taiwan?

SPEAKER_27 (01:20:28):
Well, well, it's a very interesting point.
It's a great question, actually,but this would certainly uh I
can't say minimize.
That would be a catastrophicevent, obviously, but it will at
least give us a position wherewe have in this very, very
important business, we wouldhave a very big part of it in
the United States.
So it would have a big impact ifsomething should happen with

(01:20:50):
Taiwan.

SPEAKER_17 (01:20:51):
It's kind of a scary prospect, but you have to
prepare for it.
Taiwan being the linchpin formicrochip, you know,
semiconductor processing.
The idea has been if you leaveTaiwan in place, it gives the
United States incentive to fightfor Taiwan, which puts us on a
trajectory we will be engagingwith China at some point over

(01:21:11):
that.
Because not only do they wantthe island for nationalistic
purposes, but they also want thechip manufacturing.
And we want the chipmanufacturing too.
So we're defending the island,right?
It's a very sticky little spot.

SPEAKER_19 (01:21:24):
It's why there's always kind of weird things
happening in the South China Seabetween boats and oh my
goodness.

SPEAKER_17 (01:21:30):
In fact, China, I didn't include any of this.
I should have, because you have,you know, you like the water, I
think.
But uh China's been pushing onthe Philippines, like sending
thousands of fishing boats to gofish right on the like the line
where they're allowed to fish,right on the three-mile line
running into Filipino boats.
Oh boy, they're doing the samething in the Sea of Japan,
they're doing the same thing inKorea, and they're even doing

(01:21:50):
the same thing off the coast ofPeru.
We're talking thousands of boatsall in one spot, kind of like a
show of force.

SPEAKER_19 (01:21:57):
So they're fishing them out.

SPEAKER_17 (01:21:58):
They're fishing them out, but also it's more than any
of our navies can handle, right?
When you deploy the fishingfleet and they've all got a 50
cow mounted on the front, it's aproblem.
It's a problem.
And so that's that's one of thethings um Pete Hexas was talking
about.
He's like, China could take outour entire naval fleet in 20
minutes with their hypersonicmissiles.

(01:22:20):
We have no defense for that, asfar as the the battleships and
stuff are concerned.
So he's like, the future isgoing to be small craft and lots
of them, which China's figuredout by enlisting all their
fishermen as part of their, youknow, every everything in their
government can be weaponized.

SPEAKER_19 (01:22:35):
So that's my butter knife strategy.
Kill us with butterknifes?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 (01:22:41):
Basically.
Which plays into the wholenarrative we have in the United
States about trying to killthese narco-terrorists.
It's like, well, it's just alittle boat.
You know, it'd be really easy totake out if it was a you know
big old steam-powered vessel.

SPEAKER_19 (01:22:53):
What do you think those boats were built for?
Do they look like danzas or arethey like ski boats?
What what do you think that theymade those boats for people?

SPEAKER_17 (01:23:02):
Exactly.
Anyone who supports the illegalimmigration for any cause, even
if it's for, you know, well, wewant to allow the economic
opportunity and we really needthese fruit pickers.
You're supporting inadvertently,whether you want to or not, some
of the most horrendous thingshumanity has to offer, things
like child trafficking.
Tom Holman and ICE and custom,you know, Border Patrol and the

(01:23:23):
Marshals have been on anabsolute tear to try to recover
the nearly half a millionchildren that went missing under
the Biden administration.

SPEAKER_19 (01:23:30):
And we have politicians that will stand
around and defend it like it'ssome kind of a holy thing that
we have to let these people intoour country.

SPEAKER_17 (01:23:37):
It really brings into question the whole deep
QA-non stuff.
Like, what are we doing withthese kids?
Well, it turns out sex and labortrafficking for the most part.

SPEAKER_42 (01:23:44):
I look at the numbers every day.
On Friday, I looked at thenumbers.
There's over 62,000 childrenfound by the Trump
administration.
Children that weren't even beinglooked for under the Biden
administration.
President Trump saved over62,000 children's lives.
Some of these children in sextrafficking, we found them, some

(01:24:05):
were in forced labor, some werebeing mistreated.
I can't even discuss some of themistreatment we found out about.
President Trump again proves whyhe's the greatest president in
my lifetime.
Over 62,000 children rescued byPresident Trump.
Again, children that wereignored and weren't being looked
for under President Biden.

SPEAKER_17 (01:24:26):
62,000 kids, which is a lot of kids.
I mean, you think about the sizethat's that's the whole, that's
all of North Kids app.
Housing, care, foster care, likethis is a lot of kids.
And and there's they're noteven, I mean, they're what 10%
through the list?
You know, 12% through the listof kids they're looking for.

(01:24:50):
It's amazing that they're goingafter this.
Again, anybody who supports thenarco-terrorists, the cartels,
the drug dealing of all kinds,it's not just fentanyl, it's all
the drugs that come in.
It's supporting this industrythat ultimately ends up pairing
with human trafficking and a lotof kids that end up in horrible
spots, right?

(01:25:11):
Horrible spots.
Eric Smith, Senator fromMissouri, was on the news this
weekend, and you know, he waskind of combated some of these
talking points.
You guys are using these empathytalking points, but you're
missing the big picture.

SPEAKER_28 (01:25:23):
And Senator, let me just begin where we left off
with Congressman Smith.
Do you support this pardon ofthe former Honduran president?

SPEAKER_43 (01:25:30):
I'm not familiar with the facts or circumstances,
but I think what's telling hereis to try to imply that somehow
President Trump is soft on umdrug smuggling, uh, is just
ridiculous.
It's totally ridiculous.
He's the he's uh provided bordersecurity like we've never seen
before.
And the fact is, these cartelsnow, because the southern border
is closed, they've gone to thehigh seas.

(01:25:51):
So President Trump is actingwith his core Article II powers.
No serious legal expert woulddoubt that the president has
authority to blow uhnarco-terrorists out of the
water who are poisoning ahundred thousand Americans every
year.
If you watch the SECchampionship game yesterday, the
Big Ten championship game,combine those two stadiums with
the number of people there,that's how many people are dying

(01:26:11):
each and every year from thepoison that's coming from these
narco-terrorists.
So the fact is, George,President Trump has been
delegated the authority byCongress to designate terrorist
organizations.
He's done that.
He sent a letter to Congresssaying he was going to initiate
these strikes.
We've had regular briefingsabout it, including from
Secretary of State Rubio,including from other
high-ranking officials in theDepartment of Defense.

(01:26:32):
He's executing those.
And so now what we have now areDemocrats who have such x-ray
vision and clairvoyance thatthey know the intentions of
narco-terrorists on boats, yetwere so blind to see that they
had a president for four yearsthat was operating as a
vegetable in Joe Biden.
So, you know, forgive me if I'ma little skeptical that this
isn't all about politics andtrying to uh take out um

(01:26:53):
Secretary Heggsett.
That's what this whole thing'sbeen about, George.
They didn't want them confirmed.
They didn't want a realist inplace, they didn't want to shift
from their pet projects aroundthe world and trying to build
democracies in the sands of theMiddle East by the barrel of a
gun.
We have core national interestsat stake, the homeland in the
Western Hemisphere, and the riseof China.
That's what this administrationis focused on.
The Democrats are just upsetabout that, and they try to

(01:27:16):
create some controversy each andevery week, and it goes nowhere.

SPEAKER_28 (01:27:19):
What do you mean you're not familiar with the
facts and circumstances ofpardon?
It's been well reported allacross the country.
The former president ofHonduras, he was convicted of
conspiring to bring in 400 tonsof cocaine into the United
States, also guns and othermaterials.
It's been front-page news acrossthe country.
Aren't you curious about that?

SPEAKER_43 (01:27:38):
Well, I'm curious about your pushback on that
particular point.
With your previous guest, youhad zero pushback because he's
uh giving the Democrat talkingpoints like you spew every
single week, which is probablywhy your ratings are so bad.
But to make the point, what I'msaying is that you're trying to
you're trying to divert here theattention from what the American
people actually support.
75% of Americans support usblowing narco-terrorists out of

(01:28:01):
the water in the in the secondsupport.

SPEAKER_17 (01:28:04):
What happened to your voice?
I hit the mute thing here.
We're gonna talk about that 75%support here in just a minute.
Okay.

SPEAKER_19 (01:28:14):
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SPEAKER_17 (01:29:21):
Boom!

SPEAKER_19 (01:29:23):
Oh, you're still you're still muted.

SPEAKER_17 (01:29:25):
Got that advertised in Euros?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Hey, we got we do have someEuropean listeners.
So Eric Schmidt, right there,he's like, look, this is a huge
issue.
Anyone who's like opposing thisgoing after the drug cartels for
the sake of the drug cartels,yeah.
Um, you got to check yourself,which makes you think what you
know, what's behind this?
Now, this weekend, somereporting came out.

(01:29:46):
You know, who's really beenopposed to these drug cartels,
blowing them up?
I don't know.
Rand Paul.
Like shockingly, right?
He's been, yeah, oh yeah, huge,huge opposition.
You know, how do we know there'saren't citizens?
How do we know they're notshouldn't be prisoners of war?
Why can't we just interdectinterdict these boats?
Like he's been really shocking.
Well, it turns out he might betaking some money.

(01:30:06):
Now, the sourcing wasn't great,so I'm gonna wait for better
sourcing to come out, but again,it explains a lot because the
reality is out here amongst uspeasants, this is the reality of
drugs.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:16):
I'm gonna go ahead and apologize before I even get
to the end of this freakingvideo.
But I tell you right now, I amso pissed off at this point to
where I'm ready to put my handthrough a wall.
I posted a video yesterday aboutthe DOJ taking out the rug

(01:30:37):
boats.
We all heard about it.
They've been called M-U-R-D-E-R,whatever you want to call them.
I call them goddamn heroes.
They've taken is taken sixfamily members from me.
Well, this morning I go out tocheck my mail.
I'm barefooted, got my damnnight shirt on, run out there,

(01:31:01):
check my mail.
Next thing I know, I hear myneighbor screaming at the top of
her lungs.
She's an elderly woman.
Yes, I'm elderly.
But she's older than me.
So here I go, running across thestreet to find out what's wrong.
All I could get out of her was,he's dead.
He's dead.
So I walk in the house and Ifind her 40-year-old nephew

(01:31:25):
passed away on the couch.
This is not the first person toOD in her house.
This is the third.
I live in an average workingclass American neighborhood.
I don't live in the goddamnhood.
My street is three blocks long.

(01:31:50):
I've had nine people notcounting that 40-year-old across
the street.
That makes ten to OG on thisstreet in the last 15 years.

SPEAKER_17 (01:32:06):
It's worse than war.
That's worse than we saw oursons and daughters die in World
War II.
It's worse than we saw them diein Vietnam.
It's worse than we've seen themdie in all of our conflicts.
They didn't have to go anywhere.
On that street alone, which isonly three blocks long.
And she's not in the hood.
So, you know, beware of anybodywho's telling you that taking
out the narco-terrorists is bad.

(01:32:28):
Beware.
Beware of anybody who tries todefend the indefensible, things
like, you know, the vaccines.
If you have a kid that'saffected that's vaccine injured,
you know, can we have somereality?
Can we have a doctor look atthis?
You know, can we have can wehave people take a look at this?
But the truth is, the leader ofthe opposing political party,
the Democrats at large, BarackObama, right?

(01:32:49):
He's not leader in in he'sleader in the movement for sure.
A lot of people still think he'sblack Jesus, which by the way,
Dominion may have helped in hisfirst primary in the Iowa
caucuses, just saying, right?
But he thinks that uh, you know,telling the truth is violence.

SPEAKER_13 (01:33:06):
So we have the spectacle of my successor in the
Oval Office making broad claimsaround certain drugs and autism
that have been continuouslydisproved.
Have they?
Have they ever?

SPEAKER_19 (01:33:29):
The the degree to which that undermines public
health, the degree to which thatcan do harm to women who are
pregnant, the degree to whichthat creates anxiety for your

(01:33:52):
undermines public health.

SPEAKER_13 (01:33:54):
Children who are autistic, which by the way
itself is subject to a spectrum,and a lot of what is being uh
trumpeted as these massiveincreases actually have to do
with a broadening of thecriteria across that spectrum so

(01:34:16):
that people can actually getservices and help.

SPEAKER_17 (01:34:19):
Not to sound like fraud to me.

SPEAKER_13 (01:34:25):
All of that um is a is violence against the truth.

SPEAKER_17 (01:34:33):
Violence against the truth.
Violence against the truth.
That's what we're dealing herewith.
Uh this guy here, I can'tremember his name.
Um, he's kind of a CIA expert.
He talks about how to knowyou're being lied to, how to
know you're in a psyop, how toknow the people that you're
talking to are giving you thehalf-truth or might have an
allegiance that's different thanyours.

(01:34:54):
Okay.
And he's being askedspecifically about mocking Berg
Media.
How do you know that the mediamembers are lying or podcasters
nowadays?
That's the big thing.
A lot of podcasters are boughtoff.
It's just the reality of it.
You know, he talks about thistoo, how it is exactly they get
a podcaster to be bought.
They're like, you can saywhatever you want, but when it
comes to this topic, this topic,or this topic, this is your

(01:35:17):
narrative.
This is what you're gonna do.
But they do it real cloak anddagger because one of the things
they'll do is they'll they'llaccept the criticism of the XYZ
government agency, but thenthey'll insert a but, but the
benefits of having them outweighthe costs, right?

SPEAKER_38 (01:35:32):
That a lot of the main anchors at the big media
companies were CIA operatives.
Do you think that's happeningtoday?
Yes.
Did you think I was a CIAoperative?
No.
What are the signs?

SPEAKER_33 (01:35:42):
When somebody is asked a difficult question about
their government, their agencythat they might be working for,
they might answer it in anegative way, but then they'll
say, Yes, but I think thatallegiance mandates some kind of
PR maintenance.
And it doesn't make me say, ohyeah, 100% that guy is an agent
or whatever, but it does make mesay, that's interesting.
Like that person got asked aboutsomething that happened in the

(01:36:04):
1950s with the CIA.
And they say, Yes, they did thatback then.
However, nowadays their newfocus is this and this and this.
They'll throw a littlecommercial on top of the
admission of the negative thingthat happened.
Commercial cover.

SPEAKER_17 (01:36:17):
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, we create allthese bioviruses and they could
be really risky, but I mean,infant mortality, you know,
childhood health, uh, anxiety ofthe mothers, not knowing if they
should or shouldn't vaccinate.

SPEAKER_19 (01:36:30):
It helps us develop all these vaccines.

SPEAKER_17 (01:36:32):
That's all violence.
We don't want violence.
I mean, I know that the CIA hasperpetrated violence, and I know
the pharmaceutical industry isresponsible for more mass
casualty events than anythingelse.

SPEAKER_19 (01:36:40):
But, you know, I mean code for death.

SPEAKER_17 (01:36:43):
Yeah, I mean, we know that your kids get autism,
but isn't it nice to just givethem a pill to break the fever?
You know, dial it all.
All right, guys, it's time tojump over to private.
We are gonna be hearing fromJasmine Crockett, one of the
most crazy screeds I've everheard.
We're gonna be hearing fromTammy Duckworth a little bit
more on uh actually, we mightskip Tammy Duckworth.
We're also gonna be hearing fromRepresentative uh Kohler, who

(01:37:04):
just got pardoned by Trump.
We're gonna be hearing from himagain, and then we're gonna be
hearing from Elon Musk, whobasically tells advertisers go F
yourselves.
Advertisers might be thedownfall of a lot of our
industries.
And uh then we're also gonna behearing about the
court-martialing of theseditious six.
So we got a pretty robustprivate today on Rumble Premium.
So join the Unoffendables overthere, and uh we'll talk to the

(01:37:27):
rest of you guys tomorrow.
Bye.
All right, okay, so listen tothe screed from Jasmine
Crockett.
This is stunning.

SPEAKER_39 (01:37:37):
It's because you can then misuse words like
oppression.
There has been no oppression forthe white man in this country.
You tell me which white man weredragged out of the house.
You tell me which white man weredragged out of the way.

(01:37:57):
We are gonna seal your man.
We are gonna wake your man.
So yeah, we are gonna sit hereand be offended.
We wanna see here and don't letit think that it is white men on

(01:38:24):
this side of the aisle tellingus people of color on this side
of the aisle that that y'all arethe ones being oppressed, that
y'all are the ones that arebeing harmed.
It's because you can then oh no,man.

SPEAKER_19 (01:38:39):
Let her go.
Let her go.

SPEAKER_17 (01:38:41):
Dude, it's wild, isn't it?
We were it's like 300 years ago,400 years ago.
Get over yourself in a certainway we were stolen.
We fought a war to fix thisproblem.
Like it's crazy.
Again, that's what's animateskind of that side is this this
weaponization of oppression.
Here's Tammy Duckworth.
She's talking about the doubletap video, and uh, she goes on

(01:39:03):
this long screed, basically, youknow, Hegzeth's bad, blah, blah,
blah.
And this seeing an anchor, DanaBash, bless her heart.
Bless her heart in the mostMidwestern way I can say.
Bless her heart, right?
She still gets to the bottom ofit and kind of uh bashes
Duckworth here with just asimple question.
Well, you saw the video, right?
Yes, yes, of course.
But did you see the classifiedone?

SPEAKER_23 (01:39:24):
Senator, have you seen the video?

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:29):
I have seen the video, um, and it is deeply
disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with thefact that we are putting our
American servicemen and women injeopardy here.
We're putting them in jeopardyin case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legaljeopardy.
They could be brought up ininternational criminal courts.
And so, what we're doing here istaking those professionals, or

(01:39:50):
utmost professionals, andputting them into harm's way.
And that's what bothers me themost about what Pete Hexeth is
doing.
He is the least qualifiedsecretary of defense in our
nation's history.
He's very cavalier about doingthings.
Fact of the matter is, onlyCongress can decide that we can
go to war.
And there was no suchdeclaration made.

SPEAKER_23 (01:40:08):
I just want to make sure that um that I get this
accurate.
You have seen the classifiedvideo of this particular strike,
the first strike, and then thedouble tap as it's known.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:22):
No, I've just seen what's been available in the
media.
I've read the food report, butI've not seen the actual video.

SPEAKER_17 (01:40:27):
So basically, you've seen nothing.
We haven't seen the double tap.

SPEAKER_19 (01:40:31):
But you can still talk a lot.

SPEAKER_17 (01:40:32):
Oh, yeah, totally.
So this is uh RepresentativeKohler, and he's being asked by
Maria Bartolomo.
This is the same interview hedid earlier where he talked
about being entrapped by theBiden DOJ.
And here he's being asked, areyou gonna switch parties?
Because uh, you know, Trumppardoned him.
He came out, he's like, Well,I'm still a Democrat.
Thank you for President Trump.
And then uh and then Trump'slike, oh, and now he's gonna

(01:40:53):
rerun as a as a Democrat.
Oh, thanks so much, in adistrict that I, you know, won
or whatever, he says, you know,Texas, I'm amazing, and uh
basically tells him no more, Mr.
Nice Guy.
This is kind of a very strategicmove by Donald Trump.
By pardoning a Democrat that'sbeen persecuted by the Democrat
regime, it puts um a point ofleverage in for other Democrats

(01:41:15):
that might be towing theDemocrat line because there's
something on them, right?
I mean, if the if the Bon GinoFBI is willing to threaten a
staff member of Thomas Massey,oh, we'll investigate you.
How do you know that that's notprecisely what happened here?
And what's precisely what hasplayed out 50 or 60 other times,
which is why the Democrats votein such a block.

(01:41:35):
Their hands are so greedy, theyprobably get caught up in this
stuff all the time.
And I wouldn't be surprised ifthat happens on the Republican
side as well.
But as long as the margins areright, the DOJ just kind of sits
back.
You know what I'm saying?
But here he's being asked, like,why are you running as a
Democrat when they tried toentrap you?
And Trump's basically saying,listen, no more Mr.
Nice guy.

SPEAKER_31 (01:41:53):
Have you considered switching parties?

SPEAKER_21 (01:41:57):
Look, I I'm a Democrat.
I'm probably one of the most, ifnot the most, bipartisan
Democrat.
And as I told some of myRepublican friends on the House
floor, I vote better than someof the Republicans uh in the
Republican caucus, and theyagree with me.
I I just feel that, you know, Ifollow the words of President
LBJ when he said many years ago,I'm an American, I'm a Texan,

(01:42:21):
and I'm a Democrat in thatorder.
And I think anybody that putsparty before their country is
doing a disservice to theircountry.

SPEAKER_31 (01:42:30):
Okay, but President Trump is out with a new truth
social today on your um on yourdecision to run again as a
Democrat.
And the president isn't saying,oh, well, next time, no more Mr.
Nice Guy.
He's talking about the fact thatyou are going to continue to
work with the same radical leftDemocrats.

(01:42:51):
What do you want to say aboutthe president's truth social
this morning?

SPEAKER_21 (01:42:56):
Well, uh again, let me let me just say this.
I was at church this morningwith my wife.
Uh, I prayed for the president,I prayed for his family, and I
prayed uh for the presidencybecause if the president
succeeds, the country succeeds.
Uh and again, as a probably themost bipartisan individual, I

(01:43:19):
don't vote party.
Uh, I vote for what's right forthe country.
And in fact, you know, when Igot that rate by the Biden
administration, they did it 40days uh before a primary, where
the far left had spent about orspending total about$20 million
that we know of on that.
Uh so they did this right beforethat.

(01:43:41):
So again, I'm I am aconservative Democrat, but I
will work with the president.
I've reached out to thisadministration.
I told them, you know, name thefolks, you know, Tom Holm and
Christy, uh, other folks thatsaid, hey, can we sit down?
I'd love to sit down and seewhat we can find common ground.
Uh I sit on uh defenseappropriations, I sit on

(01:44:01):
homeland appropriations.
Uh, and if I can work and findcommon ground, uh, then I
certainly want to do that.

SPEAKER_17 (01:44:09):
Common ground is a little different than switching
parties.
You're still going to be workingwith that party.
I don't know.
I I think it's prettyinteresting.
Uh, with regards to theSeditious Six, Matt Gates, who
was in Congress, mind you, metwith one of these Pentagon Jag
officer top officials, becausenow he's a Pentagon, you know,
correspondent or whatever.
And he's asking about theSeditious Six and specifically

(01:44:32):
calling Mark Kelly back up toactive duty and kind of the
ramifications of that.
So I want to play this and thenI want to talk about what you
think if it's gonna happen ornot.

SPEAKER_15 (01:44:40):
A lot of discussion with uh Press Secretary Kingsley
Wilson yesterday.
She called Senator Kelly's uhconduct traitorous, uh
seditious.
Uh, we understand that there's alegal review underway right now
at the Department of the Navy.
Uh, one lawyer to another, whatare some of the legal factors or
legal tests that you would wantreviewed in any type of
allegation like this?

SPEAKER_07 (01:45:01):
Sure.
And I'm not part of that review,but you know, my personal
opinion, I look at it, you haveto go beyond just the video
itself.
Okay, the video itself has twomajor problems with it.
One is it misstates the law.
You know, they keep saying, oh,we're just saying what the UCMJ
says.
Under the UCMJ, orders arepresumed to be lawful, and you
only have an obligation todisobey manifestly unlawful

(01:45:25):
orders.
Manifestly, meaning it's obviousto anybody that this is an
unlawful.

SPEAKER_15 (01:45:30):
Well, they were obviously calling for every
service member to impose theirown moral judgment on every
political question.

SPEAKER_07 (01:45:37):
Exactly.
And so I'll give you an example.
Because you start with thatvideo, and then because they
haven't defined the unlawfulorder, you look at their other
rhetoric and where they talkabout we think that the National
Guard deployments are unlawful.
We think the Venezuela strikesare unlawful.
Okay, so let's take the NationalGuard.
If a soldier gets orders todeploy to Chicago with the
National Guard, some politicianssay it's unlawful, some don't.

(01:46:00):
There's a debate over it.
It is presumed under the UCMJ tobe a lawful order, they have to
follow it.
If a soldier refuses to go toChicago, they're getting
court-martialed to go into jail.
Once they get to Chicago, ifthey're out there on patrol,
then the platoon commander says,hey, shoot that protester in the
head.
Okay, time out.
That one is a manifestlyunlawful order.

(01:46:20):
That one, everybody on everyside of the issue agrees.
Everybody knows that's unlawful.
That's the manifestly unlawfulorder that you are required to
disobey.
And so that's the problem, isthat they lowered the video, it
lowers the standard of what typeof order you're supposed to
disobey, leaves it open tointerpretation, and then gets
filled in through otherrhetoric.

(01:46:42):
So I think that the review isgoing to kind of look at the
totality of the circumstancesthere, but then it's also going
to look at the different optionsavailable and the feasibility of
those options, because recallinga sitting senator to active
duty, it has major implications,separation of powers
implications.
Under the Constitution, you'renot allowed to hold office in

(01:47:03):
two branches at the same time.
So if you are both an activeduty military officer and a
sitting U.S.
Senator, you're required toresign one of those positions.
And in this case, the militarywould take precedence, so he'd
be forced to resign fromCongress or from the Senate.
So I think that that causes amajor separation of powers

(01:47:24):
issue.
Yeah, and and I I'm sure thatthe people in the Navy that are
looking at this, you know,General Bly, the Judge Advocate
General of the Navy, is a very,very intelligent guy.

SPEAKER_15 (01:47:34):
Yeah, but it's it almost reads like an immunity,
Tim, because if because if thesame conduct were to occur to
for someone who didn't have thatprotection but was subject to
recall and military justice, itmight be a different analysis.

SPEAKER_07 (01:47:47):
And and I think that's one of the concerns is
that if you tried it this way,and if he were to litigate it in
the district court, you wouldend up potentially with an order
saying that members of Congressare immune.

SPEAKER_17 (01:47:58):
So don't try him because you don't want him to be
immune, but then you've concededthe premise that he basically is
immune because you didn't callhim back up to active duty,
which creates a double standardfor people that don't have a
senatorial immunity but havetaken that primary oath first,
just like Mark Kelly did, butsomehow his Senate membership
supersedes his responsibility toa lifelong oath.

(01:48:20):
What's gonna happen here, Ron?
Do you think you're gonna recallhim and cross that bridge as an
example?

SPEAKER_19 (01:48:27):
This sounds like one of the hardest questions I've
ever answered in my life.
Because it's it's gonna requireso much league.
And this is this is why I thinknothing is gonna happen, because
there's so much legal ease thatwould be required to describe
what is the outcome or the eventhe possible or potential
outcomes that there's so muchwiggle room that nothing will

(01:48:47):
happen.

SPEAKER_17 (01:48:47):
Nothing will happen.
Yeah, that's what I'm concernedwith too.
Because I'm concerned they'relike, well, we don't want that
bad ruling, so we're just gonnaavoid this whole thing, but then
it creates a prima fossa on itsface double standard.

SPEAKER_19 (01:48:59):
Which is also why something really must happen.
Something really should happen.

SPEAKER_17 (01:49:05):
Really, he should be put through the process
regardless of the outcome.
Absolutely.
Because yeah, he'll litigate it,but you've had to resign your
office, presumably, andpresumably it'll take enough
time to someone else will beappointed, and you know, it
could be a very punishingprocess.
It could create that precedentor not.
You know, the other thing is itcould create the appropriate
precedent that, yeah, everybodyis subject to this law.

SPEAKER_19 (01:49:27):
You know, on its face, what these six people did
is so stupid that I can'tbelieve we're even having to
debate it.
They should all just be roundedup.
You think it would be easy?
I mean, they're I mean, whenthese guys went through this uh
little game they did where,well, you know, what if somebody
disobeyed orders?
You know, if somebody justdecided to disobey orders and

(01:49:50):
every piece will every person inthe military just decided which
orders they would and would notobey, we would not have a
military.
No, not at all.
This is so stupid.
Orders are orders, orders areyou have to follow all orders,
they are legal orders.
That's what orders are.

SPEAKER_17 (01:50:07):
Presumed lawful.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh Pony Boy says they never madeno big hooplaw about the Clinton
double tap with Vince Foster.
Totally.
All right, so this is Elon Muskbeing asked about when he bought
Twitter, the advertisers kind ofcame after him because he
reinstituted free speech.
They're like, we can't advertiseto people that believe in free
speech, right?

(01:50:27):
And so they threatened to pulltheir money.
Now, Elon Musk had to kind ofchange the whole business model
of X and do a lot ofsubscriptions by proliferating
the blue check marks, all ofthat I think is great.
But his statement here to thisMSNBC host, who I forget his
name, was very prescient, right?
If the cost of free speech isthat the advertisers won't

(01:50:48):
advertise, then F up.
We're gonna well document andshow that the advertisers put a
business out of business.
So now they can't advertise.

SPEAKER_24 (01:50:55):
Obviously, you know that there's a public perception
that, and you're clarifying thisnow, um, but there's a public
perception that that was part ofan apology tour, if you will.
That this had been said online,there was all of the criticism,
there was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob Iger.
Oh, please stop.
You hope uh don't advertise.

SPEAKER_22 (01:51:16):
You don't want them to advertise?
No.
What do you mean?
If somebody's gonna try toblackmail me with advertising,
blackmail me with money?
Go fuck yourself.
Like go fuck yourself.
Is that clear?

(01:51:37):
I hope it is.
Hey Bob, you're in the audience.

SPEAKER_24 (01:51:41):
Let me ask you then.

SPEAKER_22 (01:51:44):
That's how I feel.
Don't advertise.

SPEAKER_24 (01:51:48):
How do you think then about the economics of X?
If if if if part of theunderlying model, at least
today, and maybe it needs toshift, maybe the answer is it
needs to shift away fromadvertising.
Um if if you believe that thisis the one part of your business
where you will be beholden tothose who uh have this view,

(01:52:09):
what do you do?
Uh why?
I I understand that, but there'sa reality too.
Right?
Yes, no, no.

SPEAKER_22 (01:52:21):
I mean Linda Yakarino's right here, and she's
got to sell advertising.
Absolutely.
So um no, no, totally so so whatso no actually what what this
advertising boycott uh is uh isis gonna do, it's it's gonna
kill the company.
And you think that that's andthe whole world will know that
those advertisers killed thecompany and we will document it

(01:52:43):
in great detail.

SPEAKER_24 (01:52:45):
But there are those advertisers, I imagine, are
gonna say they're gonna say wedidn't kill the company.
Oh yeah.
They're gonna say tell it toEarth.
But they're gonna say thatthey're gonna say, Elon, that's
the bus is worth the companybecause you said these things
and that they were inappropriatethings and that they didn't feel
comfortable on the platform,right?
And let's see how Earth respondsto that.

SPEAKER_17 (01:53:08):
Okay, this then this every time every time Elon Musk
has taken a stance for freespeech, X has grown.
So currently, right now, the EUis trying to find X and Elon
Musk a whole bunch of money, andthe net result of that is X is
now the number one news app inthe app store.
Okay, because people want freespeech, they want unfiltered

(01:53:29):
opinions, they want to decidefor themselves.
Governments don't want you to dothat.
Yeah, the CI used to do that,but yeah, we used to poison
Americans with pharmaceuticals,but yeah, we used to trap
American citizens and weaponizethe government against them, but
the butt part means you're stilldoing it.
We've gotten better at it, soit's harder to catch.
I mean, that's you know, we haveour own encrypted chat rooms

(01:53:50):
now.
Not everything's subject toFOIA.
It's just an it's just a bunchof nonsense.
So we can let it burn.
If the advertisers want todestroy this country, if the
they, the corrupt, the Somalis,the cartels, if they want to
destroy this country and ourelected politicians want to be
in on it, then we're just gonnadocument the fall and let Earth
decide.
Should you have killed JuliusCaesar or not, Brutus?

(01:54:12):
Was it a good move in the end ornot?
One of the amazing things aboutthe conspirators is they thought
as soon as they killed JuliusCaesar, Rome would just, you
know, let the power go back tothe Senate.
Not what happened.
Not what happened.
All right, guys, that's it forthe show today.
We'll talk to you againtomorrow.
Bye.

SPEAKER_06 (01:54:52):
Matt, sorry.
What night lift in that car toeveryone?
I'm 37.
What?
I'm 37, I'm not old.
But I can't just call you Matt.
You could say Dennis.
I didn't know you were calledDennis.
You're supposed to find out, didyou?
I did say sorry about the oldwoman, but from behind, you look
at you.

(01:57:00):
Supreme executive powers derivedfrom money from the message, not
from something like a wedding.
But you can't expect a willsupreme executive powers, just
because the water is ordered.
Just because some poison now wesee a body of the system, we see

(01:57:28):
a positive system.
Do you see a repression?
You see what you do.

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