May 3, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode, Keaton Turner reflects on a morning mishap, leading into a discussion on relaxed Fridays and mulching season. He shares listener feedback on overcoming negative thoughts and explores strategies for combatting negativity, emphasizing the benefits of Christian music. Keaton recounts his experience at a Forrest Frank concert, highlighting the transformative power of uplifting music and discussing various Christian artists. The episode underscores the subconscious impact of positive music and the importance of avoiding negative media. Keaton wraps up with daily motivation to maintain a positive mindset.
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That's just ridiculous.
Not not the way to start.
Absolutely not the way to start.
Man, the devil is whispering in my ear thismorning.
It's Friday morning.
Great to
have you back on the Purdue M Podcast.
I'm Keaton Turner.
And this little freaking red guy sitting on myshoulder is whispering in my ear.
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I'm walking out to my truck.
I got my hands full.
I'm trying to do too much with with too little.
I, I've got a big cup of water and a and aYETI.
I've got, hold on.
Let me I've got a big cup of water and a YETI.
I've got a brand new thermos of iced coffeewith salt in it, might add.
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You gotta try that.
And, and then I got a laptop or iPad and justothers.
Just holding all kinds of my phone, some shoes,
and I opened the door and lo and behold, offslips my coffee and bus all over the ground.
Ice, coffee,
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big dent on the Yeti.
No nothing salvageable there.
And that's how that's how we're gonna getFriday started.
So the devil is definitely whispering.
Let's see if we can recover here this morning.
Welcome back.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm gonna
ask you what you guys do when the devilwhispers in your ear, but we'll get into that
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in a second.
I I've got
an awesome Friday ahead of me.
I try to
make Fridays fun.
We're pretty relaxed around the office onFridays, generally speaking.
Although, you know, we do have bids that go inon Fridays, so some of the team depending on
how busy the season is, some of the team has togrind their face off on Fridays.
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But usually, we're pretty lax.
The office kinda cuts out a little bit early.
People go, you know, hang out and drink drinkbeer or, you know, me, I try to play golf on
Friday afternoons if
I can if I can pull it off.
There's Fridays where
it doesn't work.
Some Fridays, it does.
I'm I'm gonna try to do it today.
We got a little rain overnight, so it might bea little soggy, which is perfect for me because
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that means I can throw darts.
Throw darts, meaning I can I can throw golfballs up in the air and they stick on the green
because the green is nice and soft, and thatallows me to tap in my birdie putts?
That's what I
mean by throwing darts.
And so so a
nice little Friday ahead.
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I'm gonna pick up mulch.
It's mulching season here in the Midwest.
We have to lay down mulch and all the flowerbeds, all the, you know, kinda around the
trees.
I normally do about 13 yards of mulch a yearand I do it myself by hand.
You know, I live in a nice neighborhood.
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I think almost every single home in theneighborhood has mulching crews that just come
lay the mulch down.
Nothing wrong with that.
I love it.
I like doing mulch by hand for a lot ofreasons.
I've got a 10 year old.
More than anything I wanna show him what hardwork looks like, what hard work is, so I make
him, I don't even have to make him, he does itvoluntarily because we have a lot of fun with
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it, but he gets out there, he helps me with themulch, he's got a rake, he's down on his hands
and knees spreading it out.
I go pick it up with my truck and my trailer,load it up, get a few loads.
And I even make the old lady, my wife, I don'tcall her I don't call her old lady.
That's disrespectful.
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I do not call her that.
But she's got very strong hands, and so I evenhave her come out and get on her hands and
knees and spread some mulch.
I'm gonna I know I'm gonna get I know I'm gonnaget a look for that comment.
But Shelby Shelby has always killed it withmulch, and so we try to make it a family
affair.
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The the the younger girls don't last very long,typically.
But if I promise popsicles or ice cream orsomething fun, we can get we can get some mulch
done.
And so we'll get 13 yards done this weekend,weather weather permitting.
Lot to go through.
I'm I'm trying to keep these short guys.
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Jobo Burr back in season one gave some of theonly constructive criticism I've ever had on
the show and his his feedback, Jobo, you knowwho you are.
Jobo Burr said Jobo Burr is his handle when heleft his review.
Jobo Burr said keep him to twenty minutes.
Keep the episodes to twenty minutes.
My coach Corey said, you know, you need to keepthe episodes shorter.
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You you you probably got burned out on doing somany episodes because they were forty five
minutes to an hour long.
It takes a
lot of time.
So I'm trying
to keep these punctual, trying to keep them,you know, at or around twenty to thirty
minutes.
If you guys hate that, let me know in thecomments.
But that's what I'm trying to do.
The question I have for you guys this morning,and this is a serious question, I kinda didn't
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really plan to start this way, I don't know ifthis is how I'll finish, but with me dropping
my coffee and it busting everywhere, I had towalk back in the house and make more espresso.
First world problems I know.
But my question is a serious one because Ithink we all have it and
you may have never conceptualized it this wayor thought about it this way, But the question
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is, what do you do when the devil's whisperingin your ear?
What do you do?
I think first and foremost, do
you even know when the devil's whispering inyour ear?
For me, I didn't know this.
I didn't even know this was a thing.
Even after, you know, I gave my life to Christand, you know, learned all about the religion
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and kind of developed myself spiritually.
I didn't know the devil was actually at play.
I, you know, I kind of was always taught like,you know, the Lord's at play, the creator over
the world.
I'm not gonna get preachy, I promise.
Stick with me on this one, especially for thoseof you that aren't spiritual.
I was always taught that God's got it incontrol, but few people ever really actually
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talk about the devil.
And few people ever actually believe oractually treat it like a real thing, like he's
at work.
And it it really, to be honest with you, hasn'tbeen until the last probably two years of my
life where I have realized for real that thedevil is 100% at work in your life.
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100% at work here on earth.
Now, I'm I'm not one of these guys.
I've never seen demons.
I've never like visibly or or audibly heardfrom the devil.
I've never audibly heard from God.
But I can promise you, just from my ownexperience, the devil's at work.
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And and, you know, of course, me dropping mycoffee is is a bad example.
Right?
That's that could be the devil.
Could be the devil trying to get me off mygame.
I don't know.
But I'm talking like real real whispers.
Like when when things are not going well, whenbusiness is tough, when you got fired, when
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your marriage is falling apart,
know, when you get sick or a family member getssick, you know, what do you do?
What do you do when when you or someone youknow has a miscarriage?
Like, what
what do you do when
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you have an addiction and you cannot beat it?
Or you have a you know, you have an issue withthe websites you visit and you know it's not
right.
Like even if you're not spiritual, you knowthese things are challenges in life and you
know, I've said most recently, life is just onebig kick in the nuts and then you die, which
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which there's a lot of truth to that, althoughit's morbid.
But what do you do when the devil is whisperingin your ear?
When life's not going the way you thought itwas gonna go in your mind?
It's an honest question.
It's an honest question.
And I can tell you what I do.
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First and foremost, I recognize what'shappening.
I recognize that, oh wait a second, I'velearned this now being on this planet thirty
six years.
This little voice, this feeling, this urge,this whatever, this challenge in my life, this
is not from God.
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And I I'm I'm gonna get not gonna get preachy.
I promise.
I'm not gonna get preachy.
But I believe there are things in life, I'mjust giving you my beliefs, there are things in
life that are from God, then there are thingsin life that aren't from God.
And for those of you that are spiritual, mean,of course, you guys, you know, you can read
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this in the bible and all the ways the deviltempted Jesus when he was physically here on
earth as a human.
But I just I fully believe we get tempted.
We get tested.
We get whispered to.
We get thoughts in our head.
Some of you guys probably would would vocalizethis as as thoughts in your head.
It's really odd how you can have an awesomeday, awesome week, awesome month, and then all
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of a sudden out of nowhere, boom, you get thesethoughts in your head.
You're like, where'd that come from?
That's not that that's not me.
That's not how I do things.
That's not how I was raised.
That's not what my mama would say.
Like, whatever.
For a lot of us, it it starts as thoughts.
And the issue is if you
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let the thought roll around long enough in yourhead, or if you
just put it away for a second and then it comesback up later in the day.
You like, if you don't fully address thethought, over time, ironically, kinda weirdly,
these thoughts start to become little bittyactions.
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And and I say little bitty actions like likeit's one thought that turns into a very small
action, like looking at something maybe alittle longer than you should.
Scrolling on something and stopping a littlelonger than you should.
Maybe if you've got an addiction problem, maybeit's I'm gonna drink one more than I probably
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should.
If it's a relationship thing, it's I'm gonnahang around just a little bit longer than I
actually should.
The thoughts I've not addressed turn intolittle bitty actions.
And what happens in my experience and peoplethat I've talked to, people that I've been
around, guys that I've kinda done life with andlistened to their own problems, of course I've
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got my own problems, What happens is theselittle bitty actions that are harmless like, I
don't know, call them little white lies orlittle, you know, little bitty harmless
actions.
Nobody's hurt, you didn't do anythingnecessarily wrong, but it's just it's one tiny
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toe dipped in the water, and and before youknow it, little actions become big actions.
And those big actions can easily ruin yourlife.
Easily.
Like quickly ruin your life.
It's rare, at least I have not witnessed thisyet, but it's rare that someone has the thought
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and the thought somehow ruins their life.
Right?
Like, it's rare even, take it a step further,that the thought turns into the little bitty
actions and those little bitty white lies andthose ruin their life.
It's very rare that little bitty white lies orlittle bitty actions ruin someone's life.
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It's when you've put it all aside or put it onthe back burner or not addressed it for a long
period of time, six months, eight months, ayear, five years, and then all of a sudden
those little actions over time have compounded,they're big actions, it's just part of your
life now, you're stuck in this situation andthen boom, out of nowhere, life is just
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dramatically changed.
Relationships are dramatically changed.
Maybe you, you know, again, not to get morbid,maybe you get into an accident of some sort.
Maybe you get caught doing something thatyou're just absolutely not.
And it's all, if you string it all the wayback, it starts with the thought.
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And I believe, again, I'm
learning this, this is the cool thing abouthaving a coach, this is the cool thing about
having legit people in your life, you get tohear all these things and you start to put all
these puzzle pieces together.
I think now, the thoughts start with somewhispers from the devil.
I fully believe it.
Call me whatever you want.
Call me weird.
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But I believe how your life dramaticallychanges for the worse starts as little bitty
whispers from the devil.
Fully believe it.
If a
marriage fails, the devil was whispering to oneof you.
If you get a DUI or crash while intoxicated,probably
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at some point in your life, the devil startedwhispering and you listened to the whispers
just long enough.
If your business fails and relationships, youknow, are impacted and you couldn't see it
coming, it's like, were you listening to theright whispers?
Or were you were you listening to
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the wrong whispers?
I fully believe we all have the whispers.
It's just whether you recognize them or not.
And whether you recognize them as the devil.
I'm not gonna try to convince you that God isreal.
You can go figure that out for yourself if youwant.
If you believe, if you don't, doesn't matter tome.
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It does, but I'm not gonna address today.
Maybe someday.
I do fully believe.
And you can look at people that that areatheists that don't believe in God.
A lot of them believe in the devil.
A lot of them.
And I think if you just start there andrecognize that these thoughts you have are not,
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you know, natural, normal human thoughts, Andand the longer you sit with the thought, it
turns into small, very tiny behaviors.
And the longer you tolerate those little bittytiny behaviors, you then start to tolerate
action.
And then you get so trapped up in the action,you normalize it.
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It's normal in your mind, you've done it forlong enough, no big deal.
Those actions lead to some real significantresults and they're normally not good.
This is morbid.
I know it is.
I know this is not fun especially for episodesthree of of season two but I had this note
written down back in season one and I justnever brought it up.
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I talked about it a little bit, I've touched onit a little bit.
I make jokes when, you know, when I go on tripswith buddies or whatever or I have a bad day.
Even on the golf course, I'll say it all thetime.
I say it all the time now, the devil'swhispering.
And I say it the joking way a lot of times, butbut to be honest with you, there is so much
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truth in when I am not mentally on my game,it's because I'm getting whispers in my ear and
they're not the positive.
Whispers.
They're not the uplifting whispers.
They're not the whispers that make me a betterhusband, make me a better dad, make me a better
leader at work.
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They're not the whispers that make me a noble,you know, Christian that other people look to
as an example.
Like they're the they're the bad whispers.
They're the whispers that a man, 36 year oldman has to deal with.
And everybody has their own version of that.
And to be honest with you, if you had an easychildhood, I had an easy childhood, I had an
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amazing childhood, you might not hear thosewhispers until life kicks you right in the
teeth one day as an adult.
Now some people, you know, they have toughchildhoods.
Right?
They got, you know, divorce, parents or abuseor neglect or or you know, there's all all
kinds of ways that life could be challengingand you've heard whispers early on in life.
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But for some of us that had pretty good life,you don't start to hear these whispers until
you get older.
I didn't start to hear them until I got older.
And then there's death, then there's people youknow that have marriage problems, then there's
pregnancy issues with people you're close to,and then there's relationship issues, and
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there's business issues and you get all theseissues that compound long enough and you just I
don't know.
I don't know when I started to hear thefreaking devil in my ear.
Might have been there a long time ago, I justdidn't real I just didn't realize it the way I
do now.
And so I treat
this seriously.
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I try to you know, I think the the way tocombat it, and I talked about this a little bit
in season one, but the way to combat lettingyour life unravel in front of you, the way to
combat that and beat that is to recognize thedevil's whispering in your ear.
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You know, recognize it.
You don't have to do anything about it, butjust the first step in recognizing it,
I think starts to take some of
the power away.
At least for me anyway.
Now, I'm not a counselor, I've never had anycounseling, I've never had, I know how people
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that have thoughts, especially suicidalthoughts or mental health, don't really have
have ever dealt with any of that.
So this is, again, I gotta keep saying this.
None of this is medical advice.
This is more spiritual advice.
This is emotional advice.
On your bad days, are you recognizing what'smaking your day bad?
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What is setting your mental momentum in thewrong direction?
Do you know?
I've done this thing recently and I I'm one ofthese guys.
I'm just you know, you guys know me.
I'm gonna speak openly and honestly.
I wanna be as truthful as I can and share asmuch as I can without implicating other people
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in this podcast.
I've never been into Christian music.
I I just haven't.
It's not my thing.
It seems kinda kumbaya.
It seems I don't know.
It just seems kinda kids boppy ish.
It seems kinda corny.
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I've never been into it.
Now I've I've been in church.
I've listened to some awesome praise andworship music and like you can get in the you
can get in the moment.
But like when I'm listening to music on my onthe radio or if I'm in my truck, I'm not like
turning on Christian music.
You know, if I'm at home grilling out, like I'mnot putting like Christian music on the
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speaker, you know.
I just I don't know.
Never been one of those guys.
My wife on the other hand is much more in tunewith her spiritual side and much she's
naturally just a more connected personspiritually.
And she's all the time playing Christian music,all the time.
I can't name all the artists because again, Idon't I don't pay attention and it's not my
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default.
I I don't know all the people that that she andthe kids listen to.
But there's some really phenomenal, especiallythis day and age, there's some really
phenomenal, you know, Christian artists outthere with some real popular mainstream music.
It's just not it's not my thing.
I don't know if it was planned this way or Idon't know if my my wife had a plan or I don't
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know if my kids had a plan but they've startedplaying.
We have a we have a sound system that runsthroughout our house speakers up in the ceiling
it's It's a Sonos system.
Look into it.
If you ever build a house, you have to installsome Sonos speakers.
It's all wireless.
It's all up.
I mean, the speakers are wired in, but it'sphenomenal.
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It's one of the best features of our house.
My wife and kids have started playing Christianmusic on the Sonos like all the time.
Like they'll play it in the mornings, they'llplay it in the afternoons, they'll play it at,
you know, during dinner and and I don't reallypay any attention, right?
I'm like okay, they're playing Forest Frankagain and my daughters are dancing and singing,
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they know all the words.
Well, my wife says hey, you know, this is amonth ago, she says hey, the kids love Forrest
Frank.
Forrest Frank's this new, fairly new Christiansinger, you have to look him up.
He is part of the intro, the new Purdue andPodcast intro.
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The guy that said the guy that sings it's nothow we start, it's how we finish, that's
Forrest Frank.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna get into how I gothere.
Let me pause for a second.
I'm back.
Had to go through the truck wash.
That thing is loud.
And there's nothing better than a clean blacktruck rolling into the golf course on a Friday
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afternoon.
That's that is with the chrome Turner logoshining, that is how that is how God intended.
So I had to get the truck cleaned.
It's only the second time this week, I didn'tmake it a third.
But anyway, my wife and girls are just jammingto Forrest Frank every day and this is going on
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for like two months.
And at first I don't think anything of it, I'mlike okay, some of this music's not bad, know,
for Christian music, it's not bad.
My wife walks up to me one day and says, hey,Forrest Frank concert, what do you think about
that?
And I'm like, oh babe, Forrest Frank, like ifyou came at me with Garth Brooks or Morgan
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Wallen or Zach Top, I've been dying to go seesome Zach Top.
I mean, even, you know, even if something like,you know, Matchbox twenty came to town or, you
know, rest in peace Jimmy Buffett.
I never got to see him.
But like, let's go to a real concert.
Forrest Frank, like, I don't wanna go to aChristian music concert, you know, where
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they're selling tie dye shirts and flashlights.
And she's like, babe, trust me.
I've heard amazing things.
We need to try it.
The girls are all they know every word to allof his songs.
Like, I know all of his songs.
Your brother got us sweet tickets atBridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee.
Like, this could be an amazing show.
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And I'm like, okay.
Well, if my brother got us free tickets in thesuite, my brother's a high roller.
We'll we'll get him on the podcast eventually.
He's got connections everywhere and he can pullstrings and so he got us five tickets to the
suite in Bridgestone Arena to see ForrestFranks.
We go down there, we crash at his house, all mykids, he lives in Tennessee Nashville, and we
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go to this concert.
And my attitude's bad.
Know, again, it's on a, I think the concert'son a Sunday night.
So, you know, we go down there and I'm like,it's Sunday, you know, I've got things I could
be doing.
I got stuff around the house, I got a list amile long, shoot, I could be playing golf on a
Sunday.
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So my attitude's kinda poor.
Four hour drive down there, crash at his house,we go to the concert, we come back on a Monday,
and I walk into this concert and my wife cantell like I'm I'm kind of in a mood and and
just shame on me again, devil was probablywhispering to me that day.
I'm in a mood, she tries to shake me out of it,I'm like not, kinda not having it.
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I'm I'm I'm begrudgingly going to this concert.
And the start of this concert's this guy, thisguy, you know, this guy comes on stage between
acts.
So there's an opening act, some artist, I don'tknow who it was.
And then Forrest Frank comes on.
But there's like a twenty minute period betweenwhere there's no one on stage other than this
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guy.
And this guy is like some evangelist that'strying to, like, get money out of the audience.
He's like, oh, you can feed a kid in Uganda.
You can drill a well in, you know, the middleof nowhere Africa for $20 a month.
You can save a kitten.
And he's, you know, trying to raise money.
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And at this point, I look over at my brother,I'm like, really?
The music hasn't even come on yet and they'retrying to get money us.
What is this about?
And he's like, dude, I know.
This is kinda weird.
I'm not lying to you.
I'm I'm the biggest skeptic ever.
Okay?
Of Christian music and and and people thatautomatically, especially Christians or
churches that automatically go for the hard askon money.
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It just it's a big turn off for me personally.
And if you're non spiritual, I can't imaginehow big of a turn off it is.
The second I'm talking the very second this kidForrest Frank comes on stage, the vibe changes.
I love music.
I love entertainment.
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I don't love Christian music.
Haven't ever been super into it.
I don't I'm not anti, but I'm this dude changedmy entire perspective on Christian music.
You have to go listen to some of his stuff.
The show, I've been to concerts, I've been toGarth Brooks three times.
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I've shook the hand of Hank Williams junior.
I've sat on the couch with Charlie Daniels.
Leonard Skynyrd front row.
Like, I've been to some concerts in my day.
I've seen Morgan Wallen several times.
Like, Shelby and I, now she's this concertfanatic.
We go to several concerts a year.
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All big time names, you name them.
Chances are, especially if it's country, we'veseen them some way, shape or form somewhere.
This kid Forrest Frank, who I knew nothingabout, didn't know any of his songs, I am going
to go out on a limb and say it was the bestconcert I've ever been to.
Can't tell you why.
I mean the performance was amazing.
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The music was actually really, really goodmusic.
The vibe in that arena.
And and the only thing
I can say is it's gotta be it's gotta be thespirit.
Again, that sounds weird if you're nonspiritual.
It's gotta be the holy spirit.
I don't know what else it could have been.
It's one of the only concerts I've been to andnot drink a beer.
I didn't even drink a beer and there was freebeer in the the suite we were in.
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As much beer as you wanted to drink.
There was wine, food.
I didn't have one single drink, and it was thebest concert I've ever been to.
The only thing I can
say is it had to have been the Holy Spiritbecause you look out over this crowd, all these
people are singing, but what they're reallydoing is worshiping and praising.
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It I I this is not my words are not gonna dothis justice.
It just I'm probably gonna sound to you guyslike my wife sounded to me when she asked me to
go to this concert.
You gotta go look this dude up.
It's unbelievable.
Thomas Rhett then comes out on stage.
He actually happens to break his ankle whenhe's walking out on stage, still performed with
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a broken ankle, which is wild.
It was the best concert I've ever been to.
It beats Garth Brooks and Garth Brooks puts onan unbelievable concert.
But here's my point.
Why even tell you all that?
When we are playing, I've realized this nowafter going to this concert.
When we play uplifting, positive, spiritualmusic in and around the house, in the car, for
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multiple days in a row, something changes.
Something changes.
I I you guys have listened to me talk about allkinds of hacks in business and leadership and
life and the massage and how to do this withmerit.
Something changes with your perspective, withyour attitude, with your outlook when you're
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playing uplifting music.
Even if you're not spiritual, even if you, youknow, you maybe you believe in God, but you you
know, that's about it.
You don't know much about like
playing Forrest Frank music.
Now he's got one album that's a secular album.
It's non it's like non, I wouldn't say it'slike atheist music, but it's not a Christian
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album.
His album called Son of God is his Christianalbum.
He used to make music that was was, you know,not spiritual, not spiritually focused music.
But I'm telling you, go listen to his music,you know, there's others, you know, obviously
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there's others.
Put it in, put it put it on play in thebackground of what you're doing and just watch
your perspective change slowly over time.
It it works.
It's weird and and and you hear the devilwhispering less.
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That's the thing.
When you are hearing the positive things inyour ear, and again, it's like subconscious.
You could be working on a laptop.
You could be making dinner.
You could be doing whatever.
And you're hearing the positive music.
Again, this is coming from someone who used tobe anti Christian music.
If you do it for multiple days in
a row, something changes.
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It's almost hard to be in
a bad mood.
It's almost hard to nag your wife or yell atyour kids if you've got that kind of music
playing.
It's weird.
And now I know why my kids every morning wannalisten to it on
the way to school.
There because it it puts them in a good mood.
It uplifts their spirit.
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I know this episode sounds preachy.
Hopefully I've turned a couple people on toForrest Frank that otherwise haven't heard of
him.
I haven't expanded my palette for music,Christian music, spiritual music.
I haven't expanded it beyond Forrest Frank muchyet.
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There's one guy that's his song's called NeverGoing Back.
It's a rap song.
And some of you guys have probably heard ofProject Pat.
Project Pat is an old school rapper.
I say old school, not that old school.
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He's a nineties rapper that made it big time.
Project Pat completely changed the kind
of music he plays, the kind
of music he raps.
He gave his life to God and he is now aChristian rapper, Project Pat is, so wild.
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But he's on this song called Never Going Back.
It's by No Big Deal.
It's all one word, lowercase, n o b I g d y l.
That's a cool song I heard recently.
But I'm just telling you, if you're listeningto the right things, if you're putting the
right things into your ears subconsciously,even when you're not thinking about it, when
you're driving down the road, when you'remaking dinner, when you're working at your desk
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or on your laptop, like, it works.
I promise it works.
I I wish I'd have known years ago that itworks.
Because it's the it's one of
the easiest hacks to start your week off, yourday off in a good mood.
And and things can be on fire around you, butwhen you're hearing these words, these of these
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songs that are talking about things being onfire around you and it's all good, it's okay,
it's like it's odd.
It's really odd.
I don't know.
I don't know how that lands for you guys.
I've told you and told you and told you.
I'm only gonna speak about what's happened inmy life.
Some days it might be interesting to you, otherdays you might be like, was a miss today.
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I don't listen to that stuff.
I don't need to hear them preach to me,whatever.
That's fine.
No biggie.
I'm just telling you what works for me in mylife.
And when I listen to music that is sad music orwhen I listen to rap that talks about banging
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hoes and slanging drugs
or when I listen to know, even country, I meanthere's country songs and there's a lot of good
country songs.
You listen to a lot
of Morgan Wallen songs, you know, BroadwayGirls and like, there are a
lot of songs out there that you listen to andit gets into your subconscious and it starts to
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drive thoughts.
And those thoughts start to drive little bittyteeny behaviors.
And I think listening to the wrong kind ofmusic, this is sounding, I sound like a holy
roller church mouse right now, I get it.
But I just fully believe listening to thepositive music generates positive thoughts,
generates positive behaviors, and ultimatelyleads to positive actions in your life and for
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the lives of those people
around you, and the opposite is true.
The small negative things that you hear orread.
Some of you
guys are into reading like these trash books ortrash magazines or trash websites or trash
social media accounts that you follow.
That's all penetrating deep, deep, deep downinto your brain and your subconscious and
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that's generating thoughts and that's feeding,in my opinion, it's feeding fuel to the little
guy on your shoulder you don't want whisperinginto your ear.
So I am determined today, even though the devilis whispering in my ear, I'm determined to not
let that happen.
I'm gonna throw on some Forrest Frank, I'mgonna have a good day, and I'm gonna get my per
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diem.
And I pray you guys have
a good day.
Okay.
Okay.
That's just ridiculous.
Not not the way to start.
Absolutely not the way to start.
Man, the devil is whispering in my ear thismorning.
It's Friday morning.
Great to
have you back on the Purdue M Podcast.
I'm Keaton Turner.
And this little freaking red guy sitting on myshoulder is whispering in my ear.
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I'm walking out to my truck.
I got my hands full.
I'm trying to do too much with with too little.
I, I've got a big cup of water and a and aYETI.
I've got, hold on.
Let me I've got a big cup of water and a YETI.
I've got a brand new thermos of iced coffeewith salt in it, might add.
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You gotta try that.
And, and then I got a laptop or iPad and justothers.
Just holding all kinds of my phone, some shoes,
and I opened the door and lo and behold, offslips my coffee and bus all over the ground.
Ice, coffee,
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big dent on the Yeti.
No nothing salvageable there.
And that's how that's how we're gonna getFriday started.
So the devil is definitely whispering.
Let's see if we can recover here this morning.
Welcome back.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm gonna
ask you what you guys do when the devilwhispers in your ear, but we'll get into that
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in a second.
I I've got
an awesome Friday ahead of me.
I try to
make Fridays fun.
We're pretty relaxed around the office onFridays, generally speaking.
Although, you know, we do have bids that go inon Fridays, so some of the team depending on
how busy the season is, some of the team has togrind their face off on Fridays.
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But usually, we're pretty lax.
The office kinda cuts out a little bit early.
People go, you know, hang out and drink drinkbeer or, you know, me, I try to play golf on
Friday afternoons if
I can if I can pull it off.
There's Fridays where
it doesn't work.
Some Fridays, it does.
I'm I'm gonna try to do it today.
We got a little rain overnight, so it might bea little soggy, which is perfect for me because
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that means I can throw darts.
Throw darts, meaning I can I can throw golfballs up in the air and they stick on the green
because the green is nice and soft, and thatallows me to tap in my birdie putts?
That's what I
mean by throwing darts.
And so so a
nice little Friday ahead.
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I'm gonna pick up mulch.
It's mulching season here in the Midwest.
We have to lay down mulch and all the flowerbeds, all the, you know, kinda around the
trees.
I normally do about 13 yards of mulch a yearand I do it myself by hand.
You know, I live in a nice neighborhood.
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I think almost every single home in theneighborhood has mulching crews that just come
lay the mulch down.
Nothing wrong with that.
I love it.
I like doing mulch by hand for a lot ofreasons.
I've got a 10 year old.
More than anything I wanna show him what hardwork looks like, what hard work is, so I make
him, I don't even have to make him, he does itvoluntarily because we have a lot of fun with
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it, but he gets out there, he helps me with themulch, he's got a rake, he's down on his hands
and knees spreading it out.
I go pick it up with my truck and my trailer,load it up, get a few loads.
And I even make the old lady, my wife, I don'tcall her I don't call her old lady.
That's disrespectful.
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I do not call her that.
But she's got very strong hands, and so I evenhave her come out and get on her hands and
knees and spread some mulch.
I'm gonna I know I'm gonna get I know I'm gonnaget a look for that comment.
But Shelby Shelby has always killed it withmulch, and so we try to make it a family
affair.
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The the the younger girls don't last very long,typically.
But if I promise popsicles or ice cream orsomething fun, we can get we can get some mulch
done.
And so we'll get 13 yards done this weekend,weather weather permitting.
Lot to go through.
I'm I'm trying to keep these short guys.
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Jobo Burr back in season one gave some of theonly constructive criticism I've ever had on
the show and his his feedback, Jobo, you knowwho you are.
Jobo Burr said Jobo Burr is his handle when heleft his review.
Jobo Burr said keep him to twenty minutes.
Keep the episodes to twenty minutes.
My coach Corey said, you know, you need to keepthe episodes shorter.
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You you you probably got burned out on doing somany episodes because they were forty five
minutes to an hour long.
It takes a
lot of time.
So I'm trying
to keep these punctual, trying to keep them,you know, at or around twenty to thirty
minutes.
If you guys hate that, let me know in thecomments.
But that's what I'm trying to do.
The question I have for you guys this morning,and this is a serious question, I kinda didn't
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really plan to start this way, I don't know ifthis is how I'll finish, but with me dropping
my coffee and it busting everywhere, I had towalk back in the house and make more espresso.
First world problems I know.
But my question is a serious one because Ithink we all have it and
you may have never conceptualized it this wayor thought about it this way, But the question
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is, what do you do when the devil's whisperingin your ear?
What do you do?
I think first and foremost, do
you even know when the devil's whispering inyour ear?
For me, I didn't know this.
I didn't even know this was a thing.
Even after, you know, I gave my life to Christand, you know, learned all about the religion
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and kind of developed myself spiritually.
I didn't know the devil was actually at play.
I, you know, I kind of was always taught like,you know, the Lord's at play, the creator over
the world.
I'm not gonna get preachy, I promise.
Stick with me on this one, especially for thoseof you that aren't spiritual.
I was always taught that God's got it incontrol, but few people ever really actually
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talk about the devil.
And few people ever actually believe oractually treat it like a real thing, like he's
at work.
And it it really, to be honest with you, hasn'tbeen until the last probably two years of my
life where I have realized for real that thedevil is 100% at work in your life.
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100% at work here on earth.
Now, I'm I'm not one of these guys.
I've never seen demons.
I've never like visibly or or audibly heardfrom the devil.
I've never audibly heard from God.
But I can promise you, just from my ownexperience, the devil's at work.
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And and, you know, of course, me dropping mycoffee is is a bad example.
Right?
That's that could be the devil.
Could be the devil trying to get me off mygame.
I don't know.
But I'm talking like real real whispers.
Like when when things are not going well, whenbusiness is tough, when you got fired, when
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your marriage is falling apart,
know, when you get sick or a family member getssick, you know, what do you do?
What do you do when when you or someone youknow has a miscarriage?
Like, what
what do you do when
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you have an addiction and you cannot beat it?
Or you have a you know, you have an issue withthe websites you visit and you know it's not
right.
Like even if you're not spiritual, you knowthese things are challenges in life and you
know, I've said most recently, life is just onebig kick in the nuts and then you die, which
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which there's a lot of truth to that, althoughit's morbid.
But what do you do when the devil is whisperingin your ear?
When life's not going the way you thought itwas gonna go in your mind?
It's an honest question.
It's an honest question.
And I can tell you what I do.
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First and foremost, I recognize what'shappening.
I recognize that, oh wait a second, I'velearned this now being on this planet thirty
six years.
This little voice, this feeling, this urge,this whatever, this challenge in my life, this
is not from God.
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And I I'm I'm gonna get not gonna get preachy.
I promise.
I'm not gonna get preachy.
But I believe there are things in life, I'mjust giving you my beliefs, there are things in
life that are from God, then there are thingsin life that aren't from God.
And for those of you that are spiritual, mean,of course, you guys, you know, you can read
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this in the bible and all the ways the deviltempted Jesus when he was physically here on
earth as a human.
But I just I fully believe we get tempted.
We get tested.
We get whispered to.
We get thoughts in our head.
Some of you guys probably would would vocalizethis as as thoughts in your head.
It's really odd how you can have an awesomeday, awesome week, awesome month, and then all
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of a sudden out of nowhere, boom, you get thesethoughts in your head.
You're like, where'd that come from?
That's not that that's not me.
That's not how I do things.
That's not how I was raised.
That's not what my mama would say.
Like, whatever.
For a lot of us, it it starts as thoughts.
And the issue is if you
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let the thought roll around long enough in yourhead, or if you
just put it away for a second and then it comesback up later in the day.
You like, if you don't fully address thethought, over time, ironically, kinda weirdly,
these thoughts start to become little bittyactions.
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And and I say little bitty actions like likeit's one thought that turns into a very small
action, like looking at something maybe alittle longer than you should.
Scrolling on something and stopping a littlelonger than you should.
Maybe if you've got an addiction problem, maybeit's I'm gonna drink one more than I probably
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should.
If it's a relationship thing, it's I'm gonnahang around just a little bit longer than I
actually should.
The thoughts I've not addressed turn intolittle bitty actions.
And what happens in my experience and peoplethat I've talked to, people that I've been
around, guys that I've kinda done life with andlistened to their own problems, of course I've
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got my own problems, What happens is theselittle bitty actions that are harmless like, I
don't know, call them little white lies orlittle, you know, little bitty harmless
actions.
Nobody's hurt, you didn't do anythingnecessarily wrong, but it's just it's one tiny
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toe dipped in the water, and and before youknow it, little actions become big actions.
And those big actions can easily ruin yourlife.
Easily.
Like quickly ruin your life.
It's rare, at least I have not witnessed thisyet, but it's rare that someone has the thought
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and the thought somehow ruins their life.
Right?
Like, it's rare even, take it a step further,that the thought turns into the little bitty
actions and those little bitty white lies andthose ruin their life.
It's very rare that little bitty white lies orlittle bitty actions ruin someone's life.
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It's when you've put it all aside or put it onthe back burner or not addressed it for a long
period of time, six months, eight months, ayear, five years, and then all of a sudden
those little actions over time have compounded,they're big actions, it's just part of your
life now, you're stuck in this situation andthen boom, out of nowhere, life is just
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dramatically changed.
Relationships are dramatically changed.
Maybe you, you know, again, not to get morbid,maybe you get into an accident of some sort.
Maybe you get caught doing something thatyou're just absolutely not.
And it's all, if you string it all the wayback, it starts with the thought.
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And I believe, again, I'm
learning this, this is the cool thing abouthaving a coach, this is the cool thing about
having legit people in your life, you get tohear all these things and you start to put all
these puzzle pieces together.
I think now, the thoughts start with somewhispers from the devil.
I fully believe it.
Call me whatever you want.
Call me weird.
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But I believe how your life dramaticallychanges for the worse starts as little bitty
whispers from the devil.
Fully believe it.
If a
marriage fails, the devil was whispering to oneof you.
If you get a DUI or crash while intoxicated,probably
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at some point in your life, the devil startedwhispering and you listened to the whispers
just long enough.
If your business fails and relationships, youknow, are impacted and you couldn't see it
coming, it's like, were you listening to theright whispers?
Or were you were you listening to
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the wrong whispers?
I fully believe we all have the whispers.
It's just whether you recognize them or not.
And whether you recognize them as the devil.
I'm not gonna try to convince you that God isreal.
You can go figure that out for yourself if youwant.
If you believe, if you don't, doesn't matter tome.
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It does, but I'm not gonna address today.
Maybe someday.
I do fully believe.
And you can look at people that that areatheists that don't believe in God.
A lot of them believe in the devil.
A lot of them.
And I think if you just start there andrecognize that these thoughts you have are not,
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you know, natural, normal human thoughts, Andand the longer you sit with the thought, it
turns into small, very tiny behaviors.
And the longer you tolerate those little bittytiny behaviors, you then start to tolerate
action.
And then you get so trapped up in the action,you normalize it.
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It's normal in your mind, you've done it forlong enough, no big deal.
Those actions lead to some real significantresults and they're normally not good.
This is morbid.
I know it is.
I know this is not fun especially for episodesthree of of season two but I had this note
written down back in season one and I justnever brought it up.
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I talked about it a little bit, I've touched onit a little bit.
I make jokes when, you know, when I go on tripswith buddies or whatever or I have a bad day.
Even on the golf course, I'll say it all thetime.
I say it all the time now, the devil'swhispering.
And I say it the joking way a lot of times, butbut to be honest with you, there is so much
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truth in when I am not mentally on my game,it's because I'm getting whispers in my ear and
they're not the positive.
Whispers.
They're not the uplifting whispers.
They're not the whispers that make me a betterhusband, make me a better dad, make me a better
leader at work.
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They're not the whispers that make me a noble,you know, Christian that other people look to
as an example.
Like they're the they're the bad whispers.
They're the whispers that a man, 36 year oldman has to deal with.
And everybody has their own version of that.
And to be honest with you, if you had an easychildhood, I had an easy childhood, I had an
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amazing childhood, you might not hear thosewhispers until life kicks you right in the
teeth one day as an adult.
Now some people, you know, they have toughchildhoods.
Right?
They got, you know, divorce, parents or abuseor neglect or or you know, there's all all
kinds of ways that life could be challengingand you've heard whispers early on in life.
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But for some of us that had pretty good life,you don't start to hear these whispers until
you get older.
I didn't start to hear them until I got older.
And then there's death, then there's people youknow that have marriage problems, then there's
pregnancy issues with people you're close to,and then there's relationship issues, and
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there's business issues and you get all theseissues that compound long enough and you just I
don't know.
I don't know when I started to hear thefreaking devil in my ear.
Might have been there a long time ago, I justdidn't real I just didn't realize it the way I
do now.
And so I treat
this seriously.
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I try to you know, I think the the way tocombat it, and I talked about this a little bit
in season one, but the way to combat lettingyour life unravel in front of you, the way to
combat that and beat that is to recognize thedevil's whispering in your ear.
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You know, recognize it.
You don't have to do anything about it, butjust the first step in recognizing it,
I think starts to take some of
the power away.
At least for me anyway.
Now, I'm not a counselor, I've never had anycounseling, I've never had, I know how people
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that have thoughts, especially suicidalthoughts or mental health, don't really have
have ever dealt with any of that.
So this is, again, I gotta keep saying this.
None of this is medical advice.
This is more spiritual advice.
This is emotional advice.
On your bad days, are you recognizing what'smaking your day bad?
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What is setting your mental momentum in thewrong direction?
Do you know?
I've done this thing recently and I I'm one ofthese guys.
I'm just you know, you guys know me.
I'm gonna speak openly and honestly.
I wanna be as truthful as I can and share asmuch as I can without implicating other people
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in this podcast.
I've never been into Christian music.
I I just haven't.
It's not my thing.
It seems kinda kumbaya.
It seems I don't know.
It just seems kinda kids boppy ish.
It seems kinda corny.
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I've never been into it.
Now I've I've been in church.
I've listened to some awesome praise andworship music and like you can get in the you
can get in the moment.
But like when I'm listening to music on my onthe radio or if I'm in my truck, I'm not like
turning on Christian music.
You know, if I'm at home grilling out, like I'mnot putting like Christian music on the
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speaker, you know.
I just I don't know.
Never been one of those guys.
My wife on the other hand is much more in tunewith her spiritual side and much she's
naturally just a more connected personspiritually.
And she's all the time playing Christian music,all the time.
I can't name all the artists because again, Idon't I don't pay attention and it's not my
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default.
I I don't know all the people that that she andthe kids listen to.
But there's some really phenomenal, especiallythis day and age, there's some really
phenomenal, you know, Christian artists outthere with some real popular mainstream music.
It's just not it's not my thing.
I don't know if it was planned this way or Idon't know if my my wife had a plan or I don't
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know if my kids had a plan but they've startedplaying.
We have a we have a sound system that runsthroughout our house speakers up in the ceiling
it's It's a Sonos system.
Look into it.
If you ever build a house, you have to installsome Sonos speakers.
It's all wireless.
It's all up.
I mean, the speakers are wired in, but it'sphenomenal.
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It's one of the best features of our house.
My wife and kids have started playing Christianmusic on the Sonos like all the time.
Like they'll play it in the mornings, they'llplay it in the afternoons, they'll play it at,
you know, during dinner and and I don't reallypay any attention, right?
I'm like okay, they're playing Forest Frankagain and my daughters are dancing and singing,
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they know all the words.
Well, my wife says hey, you know, this is amonth ago, she says hey, the kids love Forrest
Frank.
Forrest Frank's this new, fairly new Christiansinger, you have to look him up.
He is part of the intro, the new Purdue andPodcast intro.
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The guy that said the guy that sings it's nothow we start, it's how we finish, that's
Forrest Frank.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna get into how I gothere.
Let me pause for a second.
I'm back.
Had to go through the truck wash.
That thing is loud.
And there's nothing better than a clean blacktruck rolling into the golf course on a Friday
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afternoon.
That's that is with the chrome Turner logoshining, that is how that is how God intended.
So I had to get the truck cleaned.
It's only the second time this week, I didn'tmake it a third.
But anyway, my wife and girls are just jammingto Forrest Frank every day and this is going on
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for like two months.
And at first I don't think anything of it, I'mlike okay, some of this music's not bad, know,
for Christian music, it's not bad.
My wife walks up to me one day and says, hey,Forrest Frank concert, what do you think about
that?
And I'm like, oh babe, Forrest Frank, like ifyou came at me with Garth Brooks or Morgan
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Wallen or Zach Top, I've been dying to go seesome Zach Top.
I mean, even, you know, even if something like,you know, Matchbox twenty came to town or, you
know, rest in peace Jimmy Buffett.
I never got to see him.
But like, let's go to a real concert.
Forrest Frank, like, I don't wanna go to aChristian music concert, you know, where
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they're selling tie dye shirts and flashlights.
And she's like, babe, trust me.
I've heard amazing things.
We need to try it.
The girls are all they know every word to allof his songs.
Like, I know all of his songs.
Your brother got us sweet tickets atBridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee.
Like, this could be an amazing show.
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And I'm like, okay.
Well, if my brother got us free tickets in thesuite, my brother's a high roller.
We'll we'll get him on the podcast eventually.
He's got connections everywhere and he can pullstrings and so he got us five tickets to the
suite in Bridgestone Arena to see ForrestFranks.
We go down there, we crash at his house, all mykids, he lives in Tennessee Nashville, and we
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go to this concert.
And my attitude's bad.
Know, again, it's on a, I think the concert'son a Sunday night.
So, you know, we go down there and I'm like,it's Sunday, you know, I've got things I could
be doing.
I got stuff around the house, I got a list amile long, shoot, I could be playing golf on a
Sunday.
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So my attitude's kinda poor.
Four hour drive down there, crash at his house,we go to the concert, we come back on a Monday,
and I walk into this concert and my wife cantell like I'm I'm kind of in a mood and and
just shame on me again, devil was probablywhispering to me that day.
I'm in a mood, she tries to shake me out of it,I'm like not, kinda not having it.
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I'm I'm I'm begrudgingly going to this concert.
And the start of this concert's this guy, thisguy, you know, this guy comes on stage between
acts.
So there's an opening act, some artist, I don'tknow who it was.
And then Forrest Frank comes on.
But there's like a twenty minute period betweenwhere there's no one on stage other than this
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guy.
And this guy is like some evangelist that'strying to, like, get money out of the audience.
He's like, oh, you can feed a kid in Uganda.
You can drill a well in, you know, the middleof nowhere Africa for $20 a month.
You can save a kitten.
And he's, you know, trying to raise money.
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And at this point, I look over at my brother,I'm like, really?
The music hasn't even come on yet and they'retrying to get money us.
What is this about?
And he's like, dude, I know.
This is kinda weird.
I'm not lying to you.
I'm I'm the biggest skeptic ever.
Okay?
Of Christian music and and and people thatautomatically, especially Christians or
churches that automatically go for the hard askon money.
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It just it's a big turn off for me personally.
And if you're non spiritual, I can't imaginehow big of a turn off it is.
The second I'm talking the very second this kidForrest Frank comes on stage, the vibe changes.
I love music.
I love entertainment.
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I don't love Christian music.
Haven't ever been super into it.
I don't I'm not anti, but I'm this dude changedmy entire perspective on Christian music.
You have to go listen to some of his stuff.
The show, I've been to concerts, I've been toGarth Brooks three times.
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I've shook the hand of Hank Williams junior.
I've sat on the couch with Charlie Daniels.
Leonard Skynyrd front row.
Like, I've been to some concerts in my day.
I've seen Morgan Wallen several times.
Like, Shelby and I, now she's this concertfanatic.
We go to several concerts a year.
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All big time names, you name them.
Chances are, especially if it's country, we'veseen them some way, shape or form somewhere.
This kid Forrest Frank, who I knew nothingabout, didn't know any of his songs, I am going
to go out on a limb and say it was the bestconcert I've ever been to.
Can't tell you why.
I mean the performance was amazing.
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The music was actually really, really goodmusic.
The vibe in that arena.
And and the only thing
I can say is it's gotta be it's gotta be thespirit.
Again, that sounds weird if you're nonspiritual.
It's gotta be the holy spirit.
I don't know what else it could have been.
It's one of the only concerts I've been to andnot drink a beer.
I didn't even drink a beer and there was freebeer in the the suite we were in.
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As much beer as you wanted to drink.
There was wine, food.
I didn't have one single drink, and it was thebest concert I've ever been to.
The only thing I can
say is it had to have been the Holy Spiritbecause you look out over this crowd, all these
people are singing, but what they're reallydoing is worshiping and praising.
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It I I this is not my words are not gonna dothis justice.
It just I'm probably gonna sound to you guyslike my wife sounded to me when she asked me to
go to this concert.
You gotta go look this dude up.
It's unbelievable.
Thomas Rhett then comes out on stage.
He actually happens to break his ankle whenhe's walking out on stage, still performed with
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a broken ankle, which is wild.
It was the best concert I've ever been to.
It beats Garth Brooks and Garth Brooks puts onan unbelievable concert.
But here's my point.
Why even tell you all that?
When we are playing, I've realized this nowafter going to this concert.
When we play uplifting, positive, spiritualmusic in and around the house, in the car, for
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multiple days in a row, something changes.
Something changes.
I I you guys have listened to me talk about allkinds of hacks in business and leadership and
life and the massage and how to do this withmerit.
Something changes with your perspective, withyour attitude, with your outlook when you're
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playing uplifting music.
Even if you're not spiritual, even if you, youknow, you maybe you believe in God, but you you
know, that's about it.
You don't know much about like
playing Forrest Frank music.
Now he's got one album that's a secular album.
It's non it's like non, I wouldn't say it'slike atheist music, but it's not a Christian
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album.
His album called Son of God is his Christianalbum.
He used to make music that was was, you know,not spiritual, not spiritually focused music.
But I'm telling you, go listen to his music,you know, there's others, you know, obviously
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there's others.
Put it in, put it put it on play in thebackground of what you're doing and just watch
your perspective change slowly over time.
It it works.
It's weird and and and you hear the devilwhispering less.
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That's the thing.
When you are hearing the positive things inyour ear, and again, it's like subconscious.
You could be working on a laptop.
You could be making dinner.
You could be doing whatever.
And you're hearing the positive music.
Again, this is coming from someone who used tobe anti Christian music.
If you do it for multiple days in
a row, something changes.
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It's almost hard to be in
a bad mood.
It's almost hard to nag your wife or yell atyour kids if you've got that kind of music
playing.
It's weird.
And now I know why my kids every morning wannalisten to it on
the way to school.
There because it it puts them in a good mood.
It uplifts their spirit.
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I know this episode sounds preachy.
Hopefully I've turned a couple people on toForrest Frank that otherwise haven't heard of
him.
I haven't expanded my palette for music,Christian music, spiritual music.
I haven't expanded it beyond Forrest Frank muchyet.
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There's one guy that's his song's called NeverGoing Back.
It's a rap song.
And some of you guys have probably heard ofProject Pat.
Project Pat is an old school rapper.
I say old school, not that old school.
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He's a nineties rapper that made it big time.
Project Pat completely changed the kind
of music he plays, the kind
of music he raps.
He gave his life to God and he is now aChristian rapper, Project Pat is, so wild.
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But he's on this song called Never Going Back.
It's by No Big Deal.
It's all one word, lowercase, n o b I g d y l.
That's a cool song I heard recently.
But I'm just telling you, if you're listeningto the right things, if you're putting the
right things into your ears subconsciously,even when you're not thinking about it, when
you're driving down the road, when you'remaking dinner, when you're working at your desk
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or on your laptop, like, it works.
I promise it works.
I I wish I'd have known years ago that itworks.
Because it's the it's one of
the easiest hacks to start your week off, yourday off in a good mood.
And and things can be on fire around you, butwhen you're hearing these words, these of these
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songs that are talking about things being onfire around you and it's all good, it's okay,
it's like it's odd.
It's really odd.
I don't know.
I don't know how that lands for you guys.
I've told you and told you and told you.
I'm only gonna speak about what's happened inmy life.
Some days it might be interesting to you, otherdays you might be like, was a miss today.
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I don't listen to that stuff.
I don't need to hear them preach to me,whatever.
That's fine.
No biggie.
I'm just telling you what works for me in mylife.
And when I listen to music that is sad music orwhen I listen to rap that talks about banging
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hoes and slanging drugs
or when I listen to know, even country, I meanthere's country songs and there's a lot of good
country songs.
You listen to a lot
of Morgan Wallen songs, you know, BroadwayGirls and like, there are a
lot of songs out there that you listen to andit gets into your subconscious and it starts to
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drive thoughts.
And those thoughts start to drive little bittyteeny behaviors.
And I think listening to the wrong kind ofmusic, this is sounding, I sound like a holy
roller church mouse right now, I get it.
But I just fully believe listening to thepositive music generates positive thoughts,
generates positive behaviors, and ultimatelyleads to positive actions in your life and for
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the lives of those people
around you, and the opposite is true.
The small negative things that you hear orread.
Some of you
guys are into reading like these trash books ortrash magazines or trash websites or trash
social media accounts that you follow.
That's all penetrating deep, deep, deep downinto your brain and your subconscious and
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that's generating thoughts and that's feeding,in my opinion, it's feeding fuel to the little
guy on your shoulder you don't want whisperinginto your ear.
So I am determined today, even though the devilis whispering in my ear, I'm determined to not
let that happen.
I'm gonna throw on some Forrest Frank, I'mgonna have a good day, and I'm gonna get my per
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diem.
And I pray you guys have
a good day.
Okay.
Okay.
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