March 31, 2025 • 39 mins
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HUGE shoutout to Tucker Collins on his first ever contract win! His old man, Lee Collins (@collinsandsonsexcavating) is raising them boys up right!!
Hot Coffee, warm story. Cold Coffee, cold heart.
Social media is killing me.
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I'm Keaton Turner, and this is the PurduemPodcast.
Welcome back to the Purduem Podcast.
Great to have you back.
I'm back in the vault tonight, Sunday nightwhen I'm recording this one, and I really
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appreciate you guys sticking with me.
Solo podcaster here for all intents andpurposes.
Haven't had a guest on for a while.
I actually looked up some stats here the otherday, and I haven't even told her this yet.
I'm gonna actually make sure she's listening tothis podcast.
We'll see if she picks up on this littlenugget.
She doesn't say anything to me.
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Means she hasn't listened in a while, which isits own data point.
But my my highest ranked episodes, I just Ijust went into the Apple Podcast Analytics page
just to see where we're at.
We're we're knocking on the door of a hundredthousand downloads, which is wild.
As we approach April 1, my highest ratedepisodes are when Shelby Turner is on, believe
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it or not.
I didn't know this, and I do not say that tomake her feel good.
There are things I say to make her feel good.
That's not one of them.
I would never lie on this podcast, and sothat's, that's cool.
I it means I need to get her on more.
We were gonna go get in the hot tub, and she'supstairs reading reading to the kids, and I
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told her, dang.
I forgot to record a podcast.
You'd think this would be just part of myroutine nowadays, 90 something episodes in, but
it's not.
I still have to make a mental note to go dothis, and hit the record button.
But thanks for thanks for joining along.
I, I never thought this thing would get legsthe way it has, but it's been a lot of fun
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interacting with some of you guys.
I gotta give a huge shout out.
This one might be the most fun shout out for methat I've ever done.
And I meant to give this the other day.
I forgot.
It was in my notes, then it got buried in mypodcast notes.
I keep a note on my phone.
This is a huge shout out to Lee Collins.
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Lee is the owner and the proud dad of twosavages, Collins and Sons Excavating Inc.
You can follow them on Instagram, collins andsons excavating.
Huge shout out, first of all, to Lee.
Someday, I wanna pick your brain on how toraise two savage boys.
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I I was just scrolling your guys' page theother day, and I was like, man, it it is it's
too cool to watch your kids, your young boys inthe business.
First of all, happy late birthday to, let memake sure I get them right because Wyatt's one
of the boys, and then Tucker is the other boy,I believe.
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And I've just I just know this by doing somestalking here.
I don't actually even know these guys, buthappy late birthday to Wyatt.
You can go follow Wyatt.
Looks like he's got two looks like he's got twopages.
At w l c underscore films and then atunderscore Wyatt Collins underscore.
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I love I love the content, Wyatt, on your onyour films page.
But happy late birthday to him.
And then a huge shout out to Tucker.
Tucker just won his official first contractever, municipal contract, and I'm looking at
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the picture here on the Instagram page ofCollins and Sons excavating on their Instagram.
It's amazing.
I mean, it takes me right back to when I was20, probably 21 years old, 22, trying to bid
work for the first time ever, had no clue whatI was doing.
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You know, I cared more about making my bid pagelook fancy than if the math was actually
correct in my estimates.
I cared more about the presentation of theproposal than I did about the content that was
in the proposal, which actually reflecting onthat now, just sitting here saying that makes
me think I would have been a better marketerthan I am a dirt mover.
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But huge huge shout out, Tucker.
It's it's a big deal, man.
I I would tell you first and foremost, and yourdad's probably legit.
He's probably already telling you all thesethings, but sometimes us young studs, we don't
like to listen to our parents.
It's just a weird thing.
I would tell you soak every second of it up,whether it's a successful contract or if if
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it's a terrible contract and you lose money,soak every second of it up because, man, does
it fly by.
I can tell you just sitting here thinking back,it feels like yesterday when I did it for the
first time.
When I won my first contract, man, it was thecoolest thing in the world.
It was a landfill project, and it feels likeyesterday.
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And I would go any I would do anything just togo back and and feel some of those moments
again, especially doing it with my family, youknow, my uncle, my cousin.
I had other cousins in the business.
Just doing it with people that share your lastname.
There's it is words can't describe it, And youprobably take it for granted.
You probably just like, ah, I'm just grindingmy you know, your head down, grinding your face
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off, trying to help build your family businessand and build your own business, and and it's
easy to take that for granted.
So I'm gonna tell you probably what nobody elsegonna tell you because I was once sitting in
your seat.
Soak it up every single day, the hard days, thegood days, the days where you feel like you
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just wanna quit.
Soak every single second of it up becauseyou're gonna get to a stage in life, whether
you're successful or not, doesn't really matterat the end.
But but in my opinion, you're gonna getsomewhere different someday, whether your dad's
no longer alive, your brother you and yourbrother have moved away or, you know, grown
apart, whatever.
Maybe you guys all stay happily family foreverand your dad lives to be a 28 years old.
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That'd be cool.
But there's gonna come a day where things aredifferent than they are now, and you're gonna
look back and think, man, it would be reallycool if things could go back to the way they
were just for just for a day.
Love to go back and live it just for a day.
So that's my that's my only feedback.
Tucker, huge congrats.
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I don't know yet.
Love to talk to you someday.
Love to get to meet you.
It's just it's it's really cool.
Four days ago, wins his first contract.
I don't know how old he is.
Let me see if I can figure out how old this kidis, Tucker.
Oh, he's got he's got zero freaking posts.
Tucker, you gotta post more on Instagram atTucker o two eight.
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Maybe he's too busy working and didn't work tojack around with Instagram, which I also love.
But anyway, huge shout out.
Lee, you know, Lee's the dad.
Lee, really cool that you got two boys workingin the business and some of the content that
you guys are putting out.
I assume it's I assume it's Wyatt doing yourcontent.
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Just cool stuff, man.
It's it's I love it.
I love it to death.
And I and I really appreciate he sent me somemessages here recently.
And it's just a big life moment.
It's gotta be a proud dad moment.
You know, I I do a lot of basketball watching.
Sorry.
I'm I got my phone connected because I'm gonnaplay a video here in a second, so I'm fumbling
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around with some things.
I watch a lot of basketball, and, you know, Ievery once in while, they flash to the parents
in the crowd, and the parents are crying.
You know?
I I just watched Johnny Broome, you know, inAuburn win, and and looked like he broke his
freaking arm, in the middle of the game.
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He came back and finished the game somehow.
I could have swore he broke his arm.
But his mom and dad, like, came down to thefloor, and his mom was crying, and, you know,
it's gotta be the most proud feeling in theworld.
My kids are young.
I mean, just just to see them hit the ball inbaseball, I feel like the most proud dad ever.
So, well, yeah, I can't imagine what you feel.
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It's gotta be a full circle moment to see,Tucker winning a contract.
Now don't let him screw it up.
Right?
I would tell this is this is the beauty.
I can't even imagine, Lee, what you're goingthrough because when I try to coach my kid in
baseball or when I try to coach him inbasketball I got a 10 year old little boy, so
I'm nowhere near where Lee's at yet.
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But we my son and I were shooting basketballoutside in the front in the front yard today on
the basketball goal, and he's like, yeah.
Let's have a three point contest.
Okay.
Cool.
Let's let's do it.
First first one to make 10 threes.
Of course, I kill him.
Right?
I'm not gonna let him win, but I'm giving himpointers.
I'm like, bro, keep your keep your hand up.
Hold your follow through.
Right?
Bend your knees.
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All your power comes from your legs.
All the things dads are supposed to say to helptheir son shoot a little more accurately, a
little more consistently, and he didn't wannalisten.
My dad reminds me all the time, my son's justlike I was.
I didn't wanna listen.
Right?
My dad had all the answers.
He'd already lived through a a few chapters oflife by the time I rolled around.
He was trying to helps, you know, keep me outof trouble, steer know, help me steer clear of
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the issues.
I just ran right into him, and I didn't wannalisten.
So, Lee, I don't know if your boys listen toyou.
I don't know if Wyatt takes advice.
If you've been able to crack that egg, I'd Iwould love to get you on here so you can help
all of us understand how to do that.
But I would also tell you, Wyatt, the bestthing I ever heard the best thing I ever heard
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was the older I get, the wiser my parents get.
And all that all that's saying is they werewise all along.
I just didn't listen.
And the older I get, the more humble I get, themore mature I get, the more I actually take
their advice.
So take your dad's advice, especially on yourfirst contract.
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I'm sure he's done hundreds of these contractsalready and lived through all the issues you're
about to live through.
It's hard sometimes for us dads to let our boysmake the mistake that we know we we, you know,
we could've helped prevent the mistake, but wewant you to learn the lesson yourself.
I'll never forget quick story, and then I'vegot a really cool, piece of audio I wanna
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share, but really quick story, and I'll tie abow on this.
I'm just jacked up thinking about this wholeCollins and Sons excavating thing.
It's like a dad and two sons.
There's nothing cooler to me.
Nothing cooler.
But one day, I am probably 13 years old, Ithink.
I've got a a brand new four wheeler, and I wasinto like the quads where, you know, you can
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race them and jump them, ramps, and, you know,I grew up on dirt bikes, but I switched to
quads later.
And so I'm 13, and we're camping with somefriends.
Like, we we used to camp all the time, and Ibring a couple shovels, and me and my friend,
we're gonna build ourselves a ramp to ramp ourquads.
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And so I spent all afternoon building thisramp, and I'm gonna make a long story short.
My dad walks over and goes, yo, what are youdoing?
I'm like, I'm building a ramp.
What do you what does it look like I'm doing?
I'm gonna ramp my my four wheeler.
He goes, dude, that doesn't that ramp's notgonna work.
I'm like, dad, you what would you know aboutramping a four wheeler?
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Of course, my dad also grew up on dirt bikes.
And I I'm like, dad, I it's good.
It'll work just fine.
I promise.
I'm good.
And he's like, okay.
And walks off, you know, he's headed up thecreek fishing or whatever.
So I finished build you know, I finishedbuilding this ramp.
I'm super proud of it.
Right?
I spent several hours building this thing withshovel, digging dirt, and, and he comes over to
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watch.
He's like, I'm just gonna watch you to see howthis goes for you.
And he knows.
Like, the ramp's way too steep to take offangles wrong.
Like, he just knows it's not gonna work.
I'm like, I'm gonna show him.
So I take off.
I come within an inch of killing myself.
I almost go up over the bar.
You know, it bucks me.
Any any of you guys that have been on dirtbikes or or full wheels or anything like that,
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and you've tried to ramp something that's toosteep.
The back end kicks up.
It almost throws me over the bars.
I hang on for dear life.
It would if it would have bucked me over thebars, the quad would have ran over me.
And I look back at him.
Of course, he's just laughing.
Right?
He's like, you are I I pull back up to him, andI'm like, oh, I I'm gonna really have my tail
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between my legs on this one.
He goes, what'd I tell you?
You're lucky you didn't just kill yourself.
And I'm like, why would you let me do that?
He's like, I tried to tell you, but you weretoo smart.
You knew you know everything.
You're too dumb.
So I tell I tell that story because, Lee, ifyou're if you're able to get your boys to
listen to you, you've gotta have some secretsbecause most of us young kids are too dumb to
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listen to our parents.
So I'd love to hear that story sometime.
Tucker, take my experience there.
Take my story.
Apply some of that to your own life.
Listen to your dad because I promise you, giveanother ten years, he's gonna be one of the
smartest people you know.
So anyway, thank you guys for the message.
Here's what I wanna here's what I wanna talkabout tonight.
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Drink break.
It's just water.
I'm not I haven't done anything fun lately.
I'm trying to be a little bit healthier, littlebit better.
Here's what I wanna talk about tonight.
I've got some audio that I want you to listento, and don't turn it off because there's a
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message on the back end that I think is reallyimportant I want you to hear.
My my wife was listening to this this morning.
I was in my room cleaning my room up, you know,cleaning all my closet, getting rid of all
kinds of old clothes and so on and so forth.
And I hear, you know, she's listening to thisand I hear this, and I walk into the room.
I take her phone and I push pause.
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I write down the name of the title, and I writedown how many minutes into this thing it was.
And so I want you guys to listen to this, andthen I've got a few things to say on the back
end so I can figure out how to get the audio toplay.
Here we go.
Yale University conducted a study a few yearsago, and they took a hundred random people.
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It was it was a combination of men and women,and they divided them into two different groups
that they were exposed to two differentvariables.
They enlisted the help of two men and two womenwho went randomly in the community.
They went to the mall.
They went to the streets of Indian Lake.
They went to the park, and they walked up torandom people with a cup of coffee.
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Now 50 people had a hot cup of coffee, steaminghot, and the other 50 had iced coffee.
And they literally just walked up to randompeople.
They didn't even ask.
They just handed the cup and looked down andsaid, hey, can you hold this?
That's all they did.
They said, hey, can
you hold this?
And 98% of the people said, sure.
I'll hold that.
Right?
It's just out of courtesy.
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Depending on the kind of coffee they received,then they'd log that and went back to them 15
later with a clipboard and a survey.
And they walked up to the people who receivedeither the hot or the cold coffee, and they
said, hey.
We're conducting a survey for research.
We have four paragraphs on this page.
I need you to read these four paragraphs andanswer two questions.
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And they said, if you do that, we'll give you$20 for doing that to help us with our
research.
Some people were so eager to participate, theydidn't even take the money.
Here's the primary question that they askedafter reading the four paragraphs.
Here's the question.
Based on your reading, describe the characterof the main character.
That's it.
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Based on the reading, same story.
50 received hot coffee.
50 received cold coffee.
This is mind blowing.
Eighty one percent of the people that receivedthe iced coffee said the person they read in
this story was uncaring and cold.
79% of the people who received the hot coffee,same story, said the person was warm, gentle,
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loving.
Here's the point of this.
We don't have independent thoughts like wethink we do.
Now I can preach a whole sermon, which maybeone day I can, on the influence of social media
to create an echo chamber of a culture wherenobody has an original thought anymore.
I want to write a book one day, The Lost Art ofThinking.
Can I get any of that?
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Because nobody thinks anymore.
They just hear, and you're like a parrot.
And I get this way too.
I'm just regurgitating what I'm hearing.
But here's the point of that story, but this isthe point I want to make.
Our perspective is influenced by socialinfluences around us or the environment that we
live in.
And the reason I tell you that is the samething goes for your mind.
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You and I have the ability, God has wired usthis way, where we can change our mind.
If you change your mindset, you change yourlifestyle.
Here's what we tell our boys.
We have boys that say, I can't do that.
There's no way.
I'm not good.
And here's what we say, if you think you can oryou think you can't, you're right either way.
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You're right either way.
So that right there, that's audio from anamazing sermon, and and it's my favorite my
favorite pastor, pastor Robbie Gallaudy, and heis the lead pastor at Long Hollow Church in
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Tennessee, just just outside of Nashville,Tennessee, Gallatin.
And that that sermon is titled How toExperience Victory.
That audio is at, like, the twelve minute mark.
And why I think it resonated so much with methis morning, why I walked in.
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And first of all, if you guys you know, some ofyou guys, I know you've messaged me and you're
on this kind of journey.
Right?
I've I've said a few things on the last ninetyor so episodes.
You're like, I've never heard someone talk thisway about the gospel or Jesus or faith or
church or religion or any of those things.
Go listen to some long hollow sermons.
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You can do it online.
The thirty minute sermons, some of them, youknow, some of them are shorter than that.
Go listen to Ravi preach.
This guy's background, this guy is, you know,his humility for whether you're a believer or
not not a believer.
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There are so many times I I just I listen tothis guy, I think, man, this is how it's
supposed to be taught to people like me.
This is how I'm supposed to learn more aboutGod, more about the Bible, more about all these
things.
And so I'm a huge fan of him.
He breaks it down very simply for for guys likeme, and and his background, you know, he's not
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I I don't wanna spoil all of it because, youknow, he has a real past, and I think a lot of
us, you know, have a real past, but he's he hasa past and he's not ashamed of when he talks
about it, and it's just a really cool, reallycool testament.
But and and also, you know, I got to watchPatton Deysher get baptized by Robbie by Robbie
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down at Long Hollow in Tennessee in 2020.
I think it was 2020.
Late '20 '20, maybe early twenty twenty one,Patton.
Shelby and I went down there, and it was anamazing moment.
I mean, it was just, you know, it's amazingwhat what that that church has done.
But anyway, why that audio resonated with me?
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And again, not to get preachy.
This is this is, you know, not even taking intoaccount the rest of the sermon.
Why that hot and cold test on the coffee cupthing was so interesting and why I walked into
the room and pushed pause and wrote a note downis because I think it's so true.
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I mean, Shelby and I deal with this in our ownlives.
We looked at each other the other night.
You know, I could tell she was a little testy.
I think I was probably a little testy.
And we looked at each other, and I was like,hey.
What's, you know, what's what's going on?
And she kinda felt it.
You're right.
It was kinda that awkward moment where we bothknow something's going on, both a little edgy,
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but we're not quite mad at each other.
No one's done anything.
We were both scrolling social media, and Ithink something weird happens.
I'm just I'm believing this more and more.
I used to think, ah, it's no big deal.
Right?
It doesn't you know?
I I use social.
I use Instagram for my work, and I useLinkedIn, and it's all business.
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But I think there is something deeper, and Iand some of you guys are gonna tune me out and
roll your eyes.
That's okay.
Maybe someday you'll experience what I did andand start to understand some of this.
I think there is something deeper going on withstuff that we're consuming when we don't even
know it.
When we're when we just open up our phone andwe're flipping through something and we're
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looking at everybody else's highlight reels orwe're looking at other people and automatically
judging them.
I I can't tell you how many times I have youknow, Shelby has, like, been on social media
and brings her phone over and be like, babe,can you believe they would do this?
And I'll and I'll, like, snap back.
Like, why do you care what they're doing?
Who
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cares?
Like, why are you even following them?
Just let it go.
And she'll be like, okay, whatever.
And then later, I do the same thing.
I'm like, why in the world is that idiot doingthat?
And I'll catch myself.
I'm like, wait a second.
I just told her, why is she following somebodythat we don't even know and and we're
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criticizing the and it's it's this weird thingthat we do.
And Robbie says there's no such thing as anoriginal thought anymore.
It's so true, and I think it gets worse nowwith AI.
Half the posts I scroll through, whether it'sInstagram, LinkedIn, what are you any platform,
you can pick one.
Half of them you can tell are AI generated.
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The copyright's AI.
Right?
The some of these, like, Opus clips, some ofthese technologies now, they will just generate
content for you.
It's it's it's a weird time.
It's a really interesting time to be alive withthe way social media has transformed our live
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over the over the really over the last, I don'tknow, seven, eight, nine, ten years.
I don't think it was this way ten plus yearsago.
You know?
TikTok didn't exist.
Instagram had not, you know, obviously rolledout the reels.
Snapchat wasn't really a thing.
We had Facebook, but that was more to just keepupdated on, you know, which aunt of yours was
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wishing you happy birthday.
I think something crazy has happened in thelast five to ten years where we are getting
sucked into these online communities and wedon't even know it.
And what's happening is this stuff isinfiltrating our brains.
I know I sound like a tinfoil hat wearingcuckoo, but I believe that.
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I think it changes our mood.
I think it changes how we go about our day.
I think it changes our our, you know, ourtemper in certain situations, at least it does
for me.
I think it, you know, I think it makes us miss.
It almost like puts a fog over what's reallygoing on, and I don't know.
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When I heard this audio this morning, I thoughtto myself, man, I bet if I did a test, like,
remove the coffee for a second, take the coffeeout of the picture.
And instead of someone doing a test on me withcoffee, I bet if someone said, hey, Keaton,
spend the next two days on Instagram scrollingwhatever you wanna scroll.
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We need you to be on Instagram for five hours aday for the next two days, and then we're gonna
read you some of this content and ask for youropinion or your perspective.
I bet you my perspective would be night and daydifferent than if someone said, hey, Keaton,
instead of being on Instagram for two days,don't look at your phone for two days.
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Right?
You can respond to emails at your computer,respond to text messages on your laptop, but
don't look at a phone for two days.
I guarantee you my response would be different.
My response in a heated moment would bedifferent.
My response in a positive moment would bedifferent.
My interactions with my wife and kids, I think,would be different.
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Shoot.
My creativity might even be a little bitdifferent.
I think what we're consuming, and I'm I ampreaching to myself, for real on this one.
I think what we are consuming now more thanever is having a real impact on how we live,
and it's having a real impact on our mindset.
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I think there's so much negative speak.
There's so much self doubt.
There there's so much comparison, especiallyamong aspiring, you know, assertive young
people.
A lot of people listen to this are not all ofnot all of them because I'm gonna offend a few
older folks, but a lot of people that listen tothis are younger, aspiring, career driven, goal
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oriented folks.
And I think those you guys that are that, thosetype of people are super susceptible to
comparing your trajectory and your success toother people's success.
I think it's super easy for Timmy's dirt dirtmoving service to get online and look at
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Keaton's mining group.
Keaton Turner truck hauling.
Whatever it is, and and and same thing withwomen.
Same thing with wives.
How is this mom doing?
Oh, her kids all look happy.
Why are my kids not happy?
Oh, her kids eat well.
Why don't mine?
Oh, her kids her kids have the newest sneakers,the newest backpacks, the newest this.
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Why don't mine?
Oh, they went on a family vacation.
Look where they oh, they went someplace nicerthan we did.
Why didn't we go someplace nicer?
Oh, she's got new this.
It is never ending.
Never ending.
I think it is an epidemic, and I'm realizing itnow probably more than ever.
Because I'm trying to become more in tune withall these little nooks and crannies of my life
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that aren't serving me well.
I don't think social media serves me well, andI was never gonna be the guy to admit that
because I was like, yeah, know, it's no bigdeal.
You just whatever.
Turn it off.
Ignore it.
That's fine.
You can do that and it works until you open itback up, And then you get sucked into this
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rabbit hole of like, you know, just just randomgarbage hitting you in the face.
And there's never been one time I'm gonna saythis.
This is this is a bold statement.
There's never been one time where I'vescrolled, like death scroll on social media and
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gotten any value that is applied to my life andmade me better.
Never one time.
You know?
I'll see pictures of trucks that I want that Idon't need.
I'll see pictures of watches that I want that Idon't need.
I'll see guys doing golf trips, and I'm like,man, that should be me.
You know.
It's now, every once in while, we'll get avideo from, you know, like, I got one from
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Michael Bautz, an eight and a half minutevideo.
I can't wait to watch that.
I love the communication.
I love the feeling of the community.
I love getting messages and and especially thevideos.
You guys know that.
I've already talked about that.
But but, like, the scrolling, never one timehas it added any value to my life.
I think it's only sucked time and suckedattention away from things I should be spending
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time and attention on.
So I am I'm saying all this to say, I'mprobably and I haven't figured exactly how to
do this.
My wife's done social media breaks where she'lljust delete all the apps from her phone.
I'm not that I'm not to that point yet, but Ithink I am gonna delete it from my phone.
I think I'm gonna add it onto, you know, aniPad or a desktop and log in to get my videos
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and stuff from you guys.
Check my DMs every couple days.
But I don't know.
I I don't have this one figured out yet, but Idid think it was a really interesting topic.
And if I think it's interesting, there might bea few of you guys that think it's interesting
too because I just think that what we what weput in to this mind of ours, what's what is
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surrounding us, right?
If we're holding something hot, we're gonna behot.
And if we're holding something cold, we'regonna be cold.
And I think there's and if we're holdingsomething negative, I think we're gonna be
negative.
And there is so much negativity in that phone.
Even even like micro negativity that doesn'tcome out as you don't even know you're looking
at negativity.
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Right?
Comparing your situation to someone else'ssituation is a negative way of thinking.
You can be looking at a really positive quote.
Right?
I've I've got some inspirational things I'dlove to share on here.
Right?
Matthew McConaughey was talking about somethingthe other day.
Really inspirational quote.
And I can take it as inspiration or I can takeit as, man, I'm not doing all the things he's
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talking about doing.
Why am I not doing and then you and then youcan spiral.
Right?
And so there there are some positives to it,but, man, I bet you if and maybe there's some
tests.
If if if anyone's done any research on this,you know, please send it my way.
Maybe there are some tests that have been done.
But I bet you if you detox from social mediafor a week, I bet your mindset changes, and I'm
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gonna try it.
I'm going to get it off of my phone.
I'm gonna get away from it, and I'm gonna seewhat actually happens.
Maybe maybe I am maybe I'm not as bad badlyaffected as I thought or as I think, but for
me, I haven't seen anything new on onInstagram.
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Like, I've seen all the the tractor videos.
I've seen all the dozer pictures.
I've seen all the the cool videos.
And so this is like a I'm gonna have tochallenge our marketing guy.
This is like a real challenge to marketingfolks who have flooded Instagram, like all you
dirt world marketing guys.
I don't know.
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Is is that still what works, or are people'sattention you know, is is people I can't use
proper English.
Man, I struggle with words.
Are people's attention spans getting shorter orare people spending more time devoting their
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attention to something else?
Because how many dozer videos can you watch onInstagram?
How many of the same old long form LinkedInposts can you read?
And I think I've reached I think I've reachedmy limit.
So I don't know.
I don't know if you guys let me know how youfeel about this.
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This is this is one that I think might help mebecome better, and you guys know I'm a lifelong
learner.
I'm all about getting better, the 1% better.
I don't think social media is bad in and ofitself, but I think it's a tool that's been
overused.
And I over consume everything.
My life is one big giant pile of overconsumption with anything in my life.
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And so I feel like I've overeaten a little biton social media over the last several years,
and I think I need to go on a diet.
So that's kind of my perspective, and I youknow, again, I would if you got any value of
that Robbie Robbie Gallaudy audio, go look himup because he's got tons.
I mean, that's that's a tiny, tiny snippet oftons of value that I've gotten from him over
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the years.
So thank you guys for that.
I I'm gonna get back into some of the businessstuff.
I've been kind of kumbaya theory.
We've been we've I've talked about some maritalstuff.
I've talked about some I'm I've got a coupledudes, and I know I've been promising them for
a couple weeks now.
I've been keeping them hanging on the line.
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I've got a couple dudes that I think could comeon here and talk business, and and we could
have a lot of fun.
I also wanna talk about Kat.
We had some meetings with Kat Caterpillar's inour office a couple weeks ago.
I've been meaning to talk about that.
I had a I had an episode, one of the earlyepisodes talking about I think the title was,
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are cat salesman arrogant?
Think I can answer that question, but I'm gonnaleave you on a cliffhanger because I'm gonna do
a cat podcast here, I don't know, maybe thisweek if the mood strikes me just right.
So be looking for that one.
And and I'm gonna title that one.
I don't know exactly what the title's gonna bebecause I normally just wing it when I finish
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recording.
I think, what the heck did I just talk about?
Oh, I talked about that.
Boom.
Here's the title.
But the topic of that Caterpillar podcast isgonna customers?
I think that's gonna be a little bit juicy.
So some of you guys that are equipment fiends,you'll wanna tune in for that one.
I'm gonna talk about how to build a companythat disrupts an industry and specifically a
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high barrier to entry industry.
And when I say high barrier to entry, that iscapital intensive.
You gotta hire a lot of labor.
You know, pay terms are terrible, so cash flowis tight.
Customers are hard to land.
There's a lot of prerequisites, so on and soforth.
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High barrier to entry means very few people aredoing these kind of businesses.
Mining is high barrier to entry.
Right?
Starting a jet company, high barrier to entry.
SpaceX, you wanna send a rocket to the moon,high barrier to entry.
And so we'll talk about that.
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And there's just I got a whole I mean, my notesare just full, full, full.
So every once in while, I'm gonna throw one ofthese podcasts in, like, tonight that's just a
little bit off the wall, of filled with junk.
Hope it wasn't all junk.
But again, this is stuff that's resonating withme.
I'm really just talking to myself.
And this this topic tonight, I don't know.
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I think my wife will be excited to hear that Iam gonna get off of social media for a while.
She might, you know, I might actually challengeher to do it with me, but give me your
feedback.
I don't wanna lose connection with some of youguys, but I also don't wanna continue to waste
precious time, energy, and brainpower and allowmy brain to turn to mush.
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So what I'm gonna do is figure out what to putmy brain towards.
Now, I can always put it towards my business,but every once in a while, and you guys know
this, you need to turn your brain off.
Right?
You need to just veg out.
You don't want to think about business twentyfour seven.
Right?
Give me an hour or two here and there where Ican just look at a screen or turn my brain off.
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So if you guys have hacks on on on how to dothat and and it's something that's healthy and
productive and positive, let me know what itis.
I'm gonna I'm gonna start to devote my energyelsewhere.
Haven't done as much reading lately as I'd liketo, so maybe some of it's that.
But, anyway, that's what's going on in my life.
If you got any value out of it, I appreciateyou listening.
Send it to someone that would also get value.
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And and I'm telling you right now, go give RaviGaudi a shot.
If you if you've got a little voice in yourhead that's saying, maybe I should think about
this differently or check something out.
Just challenge yourself to do somethingdifferent.
There is no harm in going to check someone outthat is personally, I've gotten a ton of value
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out of this guy, and it's free, and it'sonline.
You can do it in your pajamas.
Right?
You can scroll.
He's on YouTube.
He's got his own podcast.
So just Google Robbie Gallady.
Let me make it easy for you here.
Make sure I spell his last name correctlybecause I have been one to misspell.
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I mean, I can't even hardly speak English.
Robby Gallady, r o b b y g a l l a t y.
Yeah.
Just do a quick Google search.
You'll pastor Robbie, Long Hollow Church.
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Awesome guy.
Awesome guy.
Can't speak enough about him.
He's got some books out, it looks like.
So anyway, thank you guys for listening.
I checked the box.
I got my per diem today.
Pray you're getting your per diem.
Pray you're killing it.
Catch up to some old episodes.
I got new ones dropping every single day.
We're approaching the hundred mark.
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I don't not that there's nothing special comingfor the hundredth episode.
I'm not Donald Trump's not coming on.
Right?
I don't have, you know, I don't have MichaelJordan.
You know, Larry Bird was tied up, so I couldn'tget him to join.
So maybe it'll just be Shelby and I in the hottub, smoking a cigar, and maybe that'll be the
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hundredth But nothing is planned.
Nothing special.
So some of you guys have asked about that.
And I do plan to keep it alive after a hundred.
At least, that's my plan today.
Might get to the hundredth episode and totallychange my mind.
But thanks for listening.
Pray that you're getting your pretty and praythat you're killing it.
Pray you check back in tomorrow.
Thanks, guys.
I'm Keaton Turner, and this is the PurduemPodcast.
Welcome back to the Purduem Podcast.
Great to have you back.
I'm back in the vault tonight, Sunday nightwhen I'm recording this one, and I really
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appreciate you guys sticking with me.
Solo podcaster here for all intents andpurposes.
Haven't had a guest on for a while.
I actually looked up some stats here the otherday, and I haven't even told her this yet.
I'm gonna actually make sure she's listening tothis podcast.
We'll see if she picks up on this littlenugget.
She doesn't say anything to me.
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Means she hasn't listened in a while, which isits own data point.
But my my highest ranked episodes, I just Ijust went into the Apple Podcast Analytics page
just to see where we're at.
We're we're knocking on the door of a hundredthousand downloads, which is wild.
As we approach April 1, my highest ratedepisodes are when Shelby Turner is on, believe
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it or not.
I didn't know this, and I do not say that tomake her feel good.
There are things I say to make her feel good.
That's not one of them.
I would never lie on this podcast, and sothat's, that's cool.
I it means I need to get her on more.
We were gonna go get in the hot tub, and she'supstairs reading reading to the kids, and I
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told her, dang.
I forgot to record a podcast.
You'd think this would be just part of myroutine nowadays, 90 something episodes in, but
it's not.
I still have to make a mental note to go dothis, and hit the record button.
But thanks for thanks for joining along.
I, I never thought this thing would get legsthe way it has, but it's been a lot of fun
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interacting with some of you guys.
I gotta give a huge shout out.
This one might be the most fun shout out for methat I've ever done.
And I meant to give this the other day.
I forgot.
It was in my notes, then it got buried in mypodcast notes.
I keep a note on my phone.
This is a huge shout out to Lee Collins.
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Lee is the owner and the proud dad of twosavages, Collins and Sons Excavating Inc.
You can follow them on Instagram, collins andsons excavating.
Huge shout out, first of all, to Lee.
Someday, I wanna pick your brain on how toraise two savage boys.
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I I was just scrolling your guys' page theother day, and I was like, man, it it is it's
too cool to watch your kids, your young boys inthe business.
First of all, happy late birthday to, let memake sure I get them right because Wyatt's one
of the boys, and then Tucker is the other boy,I believe.
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And I've just I just know this by doing somestalking here.
I don't actually even know these guys, buthappy late birthday to Wyatt.
You can go follow Wyatt.
Looks like he's got two looks like he's got twopages.
At w l c underscore films and then atunderscore Wyatt Collins underscore.
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I love I love the content, Wyatt, on your onyour films page.
But happy late birthday to him.
And then a huge shout out to Tucker.
Tucker just won his official first contractever, municipal contract, and I'm looking at
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the picture here on the Instagram page ofCollins and Sons excavating on their Instagram.
It's amazing.
I mean, it takes me right back to when I was20, probably 21 years old, 22, trying to bid
work for the first time ever, had no clue whatI was doing.
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You know, I cared more about making my bid pagelook fancy than if the math was actually
correct in my estimates.
I cared more about the presentation of theproposal than I did about the content that was
in the proposal, which actually reflecting onthat now, just sitting here saying that makes
me think I would have been a better marketerthan I am a dirt mover.
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But huge huge shout out, Tucker.
It's it's a big deal, man.
I I would tell you first and foremost, and yourdad's probably legit.
He's probably already telling you all thesethings, but sometimes us young studs, we don't
like to listen to our parents.
It's just a weird thing.
I would tell you soak every second of it up,whether it's a successful contract or if if
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it's a terrible contract and you lose money,soak every second of it up because, man, does
it fly by.
I can tell you just sitting here thinking back,it feels like yesterday when I did it for the
first time.
When I won my first contract, man, it was thecoolest thing in the world.
It was a landfill project, and it feels likeyesterday.
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And I would go any I would do anything just togo back and and feel some of those moments
again, especially doing it with my family, youknow, my uncle, my cousin.
I had other cousins in the business.
Just doing it with people that share your lastname.
There's it is words can't describe it, And youprobably take it for granted.
You probably just like, ah, I'm just grindingmy you know, your head down, grinding your face
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off, trying to help build your family businessand and build your own business, and and it's
easy to take that for granted.
So I'm gonna tell you probably what nobody elsegonna tell you because I was once sitting in
your seat.
Soak it up every single day, the hard days, thegood days, the days where you feel like you
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just wanna quit.
Soak every single second of it up becauseyou're gonna get to a stage in life, whether
you're successful or not, doesn't really matterat the end.
But but in my opinion, you're gonna getsomewhere different someday, whether your dad's
no longer alive, your brother you and yourbrother have moved away or, you know, grown
apart, whatever.
Maybe you guys all stay happily family foreverand your dad lives to be a 28 years old.
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That'd be cool.
But there's gonna come a day where things aredifferent than they are now, and you're gonna
look back and think, man, it would be reallycool if things could go back to the way they
were just for just for a day.
Love to go back and live it just for a day.
So that's my that's my only feedback.
Tucker, huge congrats.
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I don't know yet.
Love to talk to you someday.
Love to get to meet you.
It's just it's it's really cool.
Four days ago, wins his first contract.
I don't know how old he is.
Let me see if I can figure out how old this kidis, Tucker.
Oh, he's got he's got zero freaking posts.
Tucker, you gotta post more on Instagram atTucker o two eight.
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Maybe he's too busy working and didn't work tojack around with Instagram, which I also love.
But anyway, huge shout out.
Lee, you know, Lee's the dad.
Lee, really cool that you got two boys workingin the business and some of the content that
you guys are putting out.
I assume it's I assume it's Wyatt doing yourcontent.
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Just cool stuff, man.
It's it's I love it.
I love it to death.
And I and I really appreciate he sent me somemessages here recently.
And it's just a big life moment.
It's gotta be a proud dad moment.
You know, I I do a lot of basketball watching.
Sorry.
I'm I got my phone connected because I'm gonnaplay a video here in a second, so I'm fumbling
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around with some things.
I watch a lot of basketball, and, you know, Ievery once in while, they flash to the parents
in the crowd, and the parents are crying.
You know?
I I just watched Johnny Broome, you know, inAuburn win, and and looked like he broke his
freaking arm, in the middle of the game.
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He came back and finished the game somehow.
I could have swore he broke his arm.
But his mom and dad, like, came down to thefloor, and his mom was crying, and, you know,
it's gotta be the most proud feeling in theworld.
My kids are young.
I mean, just just to see them hit the ball inbaseball, I feel like the most proud dad ever.
So, well, yeah, I can't imagine what you feel.
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It's gotta be a full circle moment to see,Tucker winning a contract.
Now don't let him screw it up.
Right?
I would tell this is this is the beauty.
I can't even imagine, Lee, what you're goingthrough because when I try to coach my kid in
baseball or when I try to coach him inbasketball I got a 10 year old little boy, so
I'm nowhere near where Lee's at yet.
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But we my son and I were shooting basketballoutside in the front in the front yard today on
the basketball goal, and he's like, yeah.
Let's have a three point contest.
Okay.
Cool.
Let's let's do it.
First first one to make 10 threes.
Of course, I kill him.
Right?
I'm not gonna let him win, but I'm giving himpointers.
I'm like, bro, keep your keep your hand up.
Hold your follow through.
Right?
Bend your knees.
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All your power comes from your legs.
All the things dads are supposed to say to helptheir son shoot a little more accurately, a
little more consistently, and he didn't wannalisten.
My dad reminds me all the time, my son's justlike I was.
I didn't wanna listen.
Right?
My dad had all the answers.
He'd already lived through a a few chapters oflife by the time I rolled around.
He was trying to helps, you know, keep me outof trouble, steer know, help me steer clear of
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the issues.
I just ran right into him, and I didn't wannalisten.
So, Lee, I don't know if your boys listen toyou.
I don't know if Wyatt takes advice.
If you've been able to crack that egg, I'd Iwould love to get you on here so you can help
all of us understand how to do that.
But I would also tell you, Wyatt, the bestthing I ever heard the best thing I ever heard
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was the older I get, the wiser my parents get.
And all that all that's saying is they werewise all along.
I just didn't listen.
And the older I get, the more humble I get, themore mature I get, the more I actually take
their advice.
So take your dad's advice, especially on yourfirst contract.
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I'm sure he's done hundreds of these contractsalready and lived through all the issues you're
about to live through.
It's hard sometimes for us dads to let our boysmake the mistake that we know we we, you know,
we could've helped prevent the mistake, but wewant you to learn the lesson yourself.
I'll never forget quick story, and then I'vegot a really cool, piece of audio I wanna
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share, but really quick story, and I'll tie abow on this.
I'm just jacked up thinking about this wholeCollins and Sons excavating thing.
It's like a dad and two sons.
There's nothing cooler to me.
Nothing cooler.
But one day, I am probably 13 years old, Ithink.
I've got a a brand new four wheeler, and I wasinto like the quads where, you know, you can
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race them and jump them, ramps, and, you know,I grew up on dirt bikes, but I switched to
quads later.
And so I'm 13, and we're camping with somefriends.
Like, we we used to camp all the time, and Ibring a couple shovels, and me and my friend,
we're gonna build ourselves a ramp to ramp ourquads.
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And so I spent all afternoon building thisramp, and I'm gonna make a long story short.
My dad walks over and goes, yo, what are youdoing?
I'm like, I'm building a ramp.
What do you what does it look like I'm doing?
I'm gonna ramp my my four wheeler.
He goes, dude, that doesn't that ramp's notgonna work.
I'm like, dad, you what would you know aboutramping a four wheeler?
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Of course, my dad also grew up on dirt bikes.
And I I'm like, dad, I it's good.
It'll work just fine.
I promise.
I'm good.
And he's like, okay.
And walks off, you know, he's headed up thecreek fishing or whatever.
So I finished build you know, I finishedbuilding this ramp.
I'm super proud of it.
Right?
I spent several hours building this thing withshovel, digging dirt, and, and he comes over to
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watch.
He's like, I'm just gonna watch you to see howthis goes for you.
And he knows.
Like, the ramp's way too steep to take offangles wrong.
Like, he just knows it's not gonna work.
I'm like, I'm gonna show him.
So I take off.
I come within an inch of killing myself.
I almost go up over the bar.
You know, it bucks me.
Any any of you guys that have been on dirtbikes or or full wheels or anything like that,
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and you've tried to ramp something that's toosteep.
The back end kicks up.
It almost throws me over the bars.
I hang on for dear life.
It would if it would have bucked me over thebars, the quad would have ran over me.
And I look back at him.
Of course, he's just laughing.
Right?
He's like, you are I I pull back up to him, andI'm like, oh, I I'm gonna really have my tail
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between my legs on this one.
He goes, what'd I tell you?
You're lucky you didn't just kill yourself.
And I'm like, why would you let me do that?
He's like, I tried to tell you, but you weretoo smart.
You knew you know everything.
You're too dumb.
So I tell I tell that story because, Lee, ifyou're if you're able to get your boys to
listen to you, you've gotta have some secretsbecause most of us young kids are too dumb to
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listen to our parents.
So I'd love to hear that story sometime.
Tucker, take my experience there.
Take my story.
Apply some of that to your own life.
Listen to your dad because I promise you, giveanother ten years, he's gonna be one of the
smartest people you know.
So anyway, thank you guys for the message.
Here's what I wanna here's what I wanna talkabout tonight.
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Drink break.
It's just water.
I'm not I haven't done anything fun lately.
I'm trying to be a little bit healthier, littlebit better.
Here's what I wanna talk about tonight.
I've got some audio that I want you to listento, and don't turn it off because there's a
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message on the back end that I think is reallyimportant I want you to hear.
My my wife was listening to this this morning.
I was in my room cleaning my room up, you know,cleaning all my closet, getting rid of all
kinds of old clothes and so on and so forth.
And I hear, you know, she's listening to thisand I hear this, and I walk into the room.
I take her phone and I push pause.
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I write down the name of the title, and I writedown how many minutes into this thing it was.
And so I want you guys to listen to this, andthen I've got a few things to say on the back
end so I can figure out how to get the audio toplay.
Here we go.
Yale University conducted a study a few yearsago, and they took a hundred random people.
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It was it was a combination of men and women,and they divided them into two different groups
that they were exposed to two differentvariables.
They enlisted the help of two men and two womenwho went randomly in the community.
They went to the mall.
They went to the streets of Indian Lake.
They went to the park, and they walked up torandom people with a cup of coffee.
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Now 50 people had a hot cup of coffee, steaminghot, and the other 50 had iced coffee.
And they literally just walked up to randompeople.
They didn't even ask.
They just handed the cup and looked down andsaid, hey, can you hold this?
That's all they did.
They said, hey, can
you hold this?
And 98% of the people said, sure.
I'll hold that.
Right?
It's just out of courtesy.
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Depending on the kind of coffee they received,then they'd log that and went back to them 15
later with a clipboard and a survey.
And they walked up to the people who receivedeither the hot or the cold coffee, and they
said, hey.
We're conducting a survey for research.
We have four paragraphs on this page.
I need you to read these four paragraphs andanswer two questions.
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And they said, if you do that, we'll give you$20 for doing that to help us with our
research.
Some people were so eager to participate, theydidn't even take the money.
Here's the primary question that they askedafter reading the four paragraphs.
Here's the question.
Based on your reading, describe the characterof the main character.
That's it.
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Based on the reading, same story.
50 received hot coffee.
50 received cold coffee.
This is mind blowing.
Eighty one percent of the people that receivedthe iced coffee said the person they read in
this story was uncaring and cold.
79% of the people who received the hot coffee,same story, said the person was warm, gentle,
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loving.
Here's the point of this.
We don't have independent thoughts like wethink we do.
Now I can preach a whole sermon, which maybeone day I can, on the influence of social media
to create an echo chamber of a culture wherenobody has an original thought anymore.
I want to write a book one day, The Lost Art ofThinking.
Can I get any of that?
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Because nobody thinks anymore.
They just hear, and you're like a parrot.
And I get this way too.
I'm just regurgitating what I'm hearing.
But here's the point of that story, but this isthe point I want to make.
Our perspective is influenced by socialinfluences around us or the environment that we
live in.
And the reason I tell you that is the samething goes for your mind.
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You and I have the ability, God has wired usthis way, where we can change our mind.
If you change your mindset, you change yourlifestyle.
Here's what we tell our boys.
We have boys that say, I can't do that.
There's no way.
I'm not good.
And here's what we say, if you think you can oryou think you can't, you're right either way.
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You're right either way.
So that right there, that's audio from anamazing sermon, and and it's my favorite my
favorite pastor, pastor Robbie Gallaudy, and heis the lead pastor at Long Hollow Church in
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Tennessee, just just outside of Nashville,Tennessee, Gallatin.
And that that sermon is titled How toExperience Victory.
That audio is at, like, the twelve minute mark.
And why I think it resonated so much with methis morning, why I walked in.
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And first of all, if you guys you know, some ofyou guys, I know you've messaged me and you're
on this kind of journey.
Right?
I've I've said a few things on the last ninetyor so episodes.
You're like, I've never heard someone talk thisway about the gospel or Jesus or faith or
church or religion or any of those things.
Go listen to some long hollow sermons.
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You can do it online.
The thirty minute sermons, some of them, youknow, some of them are shorter than that.
Go listen to Ravi preach.
This guy's background, this guy is, you know,his humility for whether you're a believer or
not not a believer.
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There are so many times I I just I listen tothis guy, I think, man, this is how it's
supposed to be taught to people like me.
This is how I'm supposed to learn more aboutGod, more about the Bible, more about all these
things.
And so I'm a huge fan of him.
He breaks it down very simply for for guys likeme, and and his background, you know, he's not
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I I don't wanna spoil all of it because, youknow, he has a real past, and I think a lot of
us, you know, have a real past, but he's he hasa past and he's not ashamed of when he talks
about it, and it's just a really cool, reallycool testament.
But and and also, you know, I got to watchPatton Deysher get baptized by Robbie by Robbie
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down at Long Hollow in Tennessee in 2020.
I think it was 2020.
Late '20 '20, maybe early twenty twenty one,Patton.
Shelby and I went down there, and it was anamazing moment.
I mean, it was just, you know, it's amazingwhat what that that church has done.
But anyway, why that audio resonated with me?
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And again, not to get preachy.
This is this is, you know, not even taking intoaccount the rest of the sermon.
Why that hot and cold test on the coffee cupthing was so interesting and why I walked into
the room and pushed pause and wrote a note downis because I think it's so true.
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I mean, Shelby and I deal with this in our ownlives.
We looked at each other the other night.
You know, I could tell she was a little testy.
I think I was probably a little testy.
And we looked at each other, and I was like,hey.
What's, you know, what's what's going on?
And she kinda felt it.
You're right.
It was kinda that awkward moment where we bothknow something's going on, both a little edgy,
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but we're not quite mad at each other.
No one's done anything.
We were both scrolling social media, and Ithink something weird happens.
I'm just I'm believing this more and more.
I used to think, ah, it's no big deal.
Right?
It doesn't you know?
I I use social.
I use Instagram for my work, and I useLinkedIn, and it's all business.
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But I think there is something deeper, and Iand some of you guys are gonna tune me out and
roll your eyes.
That's okay.
Maybe someday you'll experience what I did andand start to understand some of this.
I think there is something deeper going on withstuff that we're consuming when we don't even
know it.
When we're when we just open up our phone andwe're flipping through something and we're
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looking at everybody else's highlight reels orwe're looking at other people and automatically
judging them.
I I can't tell you how many times I have youknow, Shelby has, like, been on social media
and brings her phone over and be like, babe,can you believe they would do this?
And I'll and I'll, like, snap back.
Like, why do you care what they're doing?
Who
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cares?
Like, why are you even following them?
Just let it go.
And she'll be like, okay, whatever.
And then later, I do the same thing.
I'm like, why in the world is that idiot doingthat?
And I'll catch myself.
I'm like, wait a second.
I just told her, why is she following somebodythat we don't even know and and we're
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criticizing the and it's it's this weird thingthat we do.
And Robbie says there's no such thing as anoriginal thought anymore.
It's so true, and I think it gets worse nowwith AI.
Half the posts I scroll through, whether it'sInstagram, LinkedIn, what are you any platform,
you can pick one.
Half of them you can tell are AI generated.
(22:59):
The copyright's AI.
Right?
The some of these, like, Opus clips, some ofthese technologies now, they will just generate
content for you.
It's it's it's a weird time.
It's a really interesting time to be alive withthe way social media has transformed our live
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over the over the really over the last, I don'tknow, seven, eight, nine, ten years.
I don't think it was this way ten plus yearsago.
You know?
TikTok didn't exist.
Instagram had not, you know, obviously rolledout the reels.
Snapchat wasn't really a thing.
We had Facebook, but that was more to just keepupdated on, you know, which aunt of yours was
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wishing you happy birthday.
I think something crazy has happened in thelast five to ten years where we are getting
sucked into these online communities and wedon't even know it.
And what's happening is this stuff isinfiltrating our brains.
I know I sound like a tinfoil hat wearingcuckoo, but I believe that.
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I think it changes our mood.
I think it changes how we go about our day.
I think it changes our our, you know, ourtemper in certain situations, at least it does
for me.
I think it, you know, I think it makes us miss.
It almost like puts a fog over what's reallygoing on, and I don't know.
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When I heard this audio this morning, I thoughtto myself, man, I bet if I did a test, like,
remove the coffee for a second, take the coffeeout of the picture.
And instead of someone doing a test on me withcoffee, I bet if someone said, hey, Keaton,
spend the next two days on Instagram scrollingwhatever you wanna scroll.
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We need you to be on Instagram for five hours aday for the next two days, and then we're gonna
read you some of this content and ask for youropinion or your perspective.
I bet you my perspective would be night and daydifferent than if someone said, hey, Keaton,
instead of being on Instagram for two days,don't look at your phone for two days.
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Right?
You can respond to emails at your computer,respond to text messages on your laptop, but
don't look at a phone for two days.
I guarantee you my response would be different.
My response in a heated moment would bedifferent.
My response in a positive moment would bedifferent.
My interactions with my wife and kids, I think,would be different.
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Shoot.
My creativity might even be a little bitdifferent.
I think what we're consuming, and I'm I ampreaching to myself, for real on this one.
I think what we are consuming now more thanever is having a real impact on how we live,
and it's having a real impact on our mindset.
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I think there's so much negative speak.
There's so much self doubt.
There there's so much comparison, especiallyamong aspiring, you know, assertive young
people.
A lot of people listen to this are not all ofnot all of them because I'm gonna offend a few
older folks, but a lot of people that listen tothis are younger, aspiring, career driven, goal
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oriented folks.
And I think those you guys that are that, thosetype of people are super susceptible to
comparing your trajectory and your success toother people's success.
I think it's super easy for Timmy's dirt dirtmoving service to get online and look at
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Keaton's mining group.
Keaton Turner truck hauling.
Whatever it is, and and and same thing withwomen.
Same thing with wives.
How is this mom doing?
Oh, her kids all look happy.
Why are my kids not happy?
Oh, her kids eat well.
Why don't mine?
Oh, her kids her kids have the newest sneakers,the newest backpacks, the newest this.
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Why don't mine?
Oh, they went on a family vacation.
Look where they oh, they went someplace nicerthan we did.
Why didn't we go someplace nicer?
Oh, she's got new this.
It is never ending.
Never ending.
I think it is an epidemic, and I'm realizing itnow probably more than ever.
Because I'm trying to become more in tune withall these little nooks and crannies of my life
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that aren't serving me well.
I don't think social media serves me well, andI was never gonna be the guy to admit that
because I was like, yeah, know, it's no bigdeal.
You just whatever.
Turn it off.
Ignore it.
That's fine.
You can do that and it works until you open itback up, And then you get sucked into this
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rabbit hole of like, you know, just just randomgarbage hitting you in the face.
And there's never been one time I'm gonna saythis.
This is this is a bold statement.
There's never been one time where I'vescrolled, like death scroll on social media and
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gotten any value that is applied to my life andmade me better.
Never one time.
You know?
I'll see pictures of trucks that I want that Idon't need.
I'll see pictures of watches that I want that Idon't need.
I'll see guys doing golf trips, and I'm like,man, that should be me.
You know.
It's now, every once in while, we'll get avideo from, you know, like, I got one from
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Michael Bautz, an eight and a half minutevideo.
I can't wait to watch that.
I love the communication.
I love the feeling of the community.
I love getting messages and and especially thevideos.
You guys know that.
I've already talked about that.
But but, like, the scrolling, never one timehas it added any value to my life.
I think it's only sucked time and suckedattention away from things I should be spending
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time and attention on.
So I am I'm saying all this to say, I'mprobably and I haven't figured exactly how to
do this.
My wife's done social media breaks where she'lljust delete all the apps from her phone.
I'm not that I'm not to that point yet, but Ithink I am gonna delete it from my phone.
I think I'm gonna add it onto, you know, aniPad or a desktop and log in to get my videos
(29:39):
and stuff from you guys.
Check my DMs every couple days.
But I don't know.
I I don't have this one figured out yet, but Idid think it was a really interesting topic.
And if I think it's interesting, there might bea few of you guys that think it's interesting
too because I just think that what we what weput in to this mind of ours, what's what is
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surrounding us, right?
If we're holding something hot, we're gonna behot.
And if we're holding something cold, we'regonna be cold.
And I think there's and if we're holdingsomething negative, I think we're gonna be
negative.
And there is so much negativity in that phone.
Even even like micro negativity that doesn'tcome out as you don't even know you're looking
at negativity.
(30:25):
Right?
Comparing your situation to someone else'ssituation is a negative way of thinking.
You can be looking at a really positive quote.
Right?
I've I've got some inspirational things I'dlove to share on here.
Right?
Matthew McConaughey was talking about somethingthe other day.
Really inspirational quote.
And I can take it as inspiration or I can takeit as, man, I'm not doing all the things he's
(30:51):
talking about doing.
Why am I not doing and then you and then youcan spiral.
Right?
And so there there are some positives to it,but, man, I bet you if and maybe there's some
tests.
If if if anyone's done any research on this,you know, please send it my way.
Maybe there are some tests that have been done.
But I bet you if you detox from social mediafor a week, I bet your mindset changes, and I'm
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gonna try it.
I'm going to get it off of my phone.
I'm gonna get away from it, and I'm gonna seewhat actually happens.
Maybe maybe I am maybe I'm not as bad badlyaffected as I thought or as I think, but for
me, I haven't seen anything new on onInstagram.
(31:41):
Like, I've seen all the the tractor videos.
I've seen all the dozer pictures.
I've seen all the the cool videos.
And so this is like a I'm gonna have tochallenge our marketing guy.
This is like a real challenge to marketingfolks who have flooded Instagram, like all you
dirt world marketing guys.
I don't know.
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Is is that still what works, or are people'sattention you know, is is people I can't use
proper English.
Man, I struggle with words.
Are people's attention spans getting shorter orare people spending more time devoting their
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attention to something else?
Because how many dozer videos can you watch onInstagram?
How many of the same old long form LinkedInposts can you read?
And I think I've reached I think I've reachedmy limit.
So I don't know.
I don't know if you guys let me know how youfeel about this.
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This is this is one that I think might help mebecome better, and you guys know I'm a lifelong
learner.
I'm all about getting better, the 1% better.
I don't think social media is bad in and ofitself, but I think it's a tool that's been
overused.
And I over consume everything.
My life is one big giant pile of overconsumption with anything in my life.
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And so I feel like I've overeaten a little biton social media over the last several years,
and I think I need to go on a diet.
So that's kind of my perspective, and I youknow, again, I would if you got any value of
that Robbie Robbie Gallaudy audio, go look himup because he's got tons.
I mean, that's that's a tiny, tiny snippet oftons of value that I've gotten from him over
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the years.
So thank you guys for that.
I I'm gonna get back into some of the businessstuff.
I've been kind of kumbaya theory.
We've been we've I've talked about some maritalstuff.
I've talked about some I'm I've got a coupledudes, and I know I've been promising them for
a couple weeks now.
I've been keeping them hanging on the line.
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I've got a couple dudes that I think could comeon here and talk business, and and we could
have a lot of fun.
I also wanna talk about Kat.
We had some meetings with Kat Caterpillar's inour office a couple weeks ago.
I've been meaning to talk about that.
I had a I had an episode, one of the earlyepisodes talking about I think the title was,
(34:18):
are cat salesman arrogant?
Think I can answer that question, but I'm gonnaleave you on a cliffhanger because I'm gonna do
a cat podcast here, I don't know, maybe thisweek if the mood strikes me just right.
So be looking for that one.
And and I'm gonna title that one.
I don't know exactly what the title's gonna bebecause I normally just wing it when I finish
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recording.
I think, what the heck did I just talk about?
Oh, I talked about that.
Boom.
Here's the title.
But the topic of that Caterpillar podcast isgonna customers?
I think that's gonna be a little bit juicy.
So some of you guys that are equipment fiends,you'll wanna tune in for that one.
I'm gonna talk about how to build a companythat disrupts an industry and specifically a
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high barrier to entry industry.
And when I say high barrier to entry, that iscapital intensive.
You gotta hire a lot of labor.
You know, pay terms are terrible, so cash flowis tight.
Customers are hard to land.
There's a lot of prerequisites, so on and soforth.
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High barrier to entry means very few people aredoing these kind of businesses.
Mining is high barrier to entry.
Right?
Starting a jet company, high barrier to entry.
SpaceX, you wanna send a rocket to the moon,high barrier to entry.
And so we'll talk about that.
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And there's just I got a whole I mean, my notesare just full, full, full.
So every once in while, I'm gonna throw one ofthese podcasts in, like, tonight that's just a
little bit off the wall, of filled with junk.
Hope it wasn't all junk.
But again, this is stuff that's resonating withme.
I'm really just talking to myself.
And this this topic tonight, I don't know.
(36:10):
I think my wife will be excited to hear that Iam gonna get off of social media for a while.
She might, you know, I might actually challengeher to do it with me, but give me your
feedback.
I don't wanna lose connection with some of youguys, but I also don't wanna continue to waste
precious time, energy, and brainpower and allowmy brain to turn to mush.
(36:32):
So what I'm gonna do is figure out what to putmy brain towards.
Now, I can always put it towards my business,but every once in a while, and you guys know
this, you need to turn your brain off.
Right?
You need to just veg out.
You don't want to think about business twentyfour seven.
Right?
Give me an hour or two here and there where Ican just look at a screen or turn my brain off.
(36:53):
So if you guys have hacks on on on how to dothat and and it's something that's healthy and
productive and positive, let me know what itis.
I'm gonna I'm gonna start to devote my energyelsewhere.
Haven't done as much reading lately as I'd liketo, so maybe some of it's that.
But, anyway, that's what's going on in my life.
If you got any value out of it, I appreciateyou listening.
Send it to someone that would also get value.
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And and I'm telling you right now, go give RaviGaudi a shot.
If you if you've got a little voice in yourhead that's saying, maybe I should think about
this differently or check something out.
Just challenge yourself to do somethingdifferent.
There is no harm in going to check someone outthat is personally, I've gotten a ton of value
(37:37):
out of this guy, and it's free, and it'sonline.
You can do it in your pajamas.
Right?
You can scroll.
He's on YouTube.
He's got his own podcast.
So just Google Robbie Gallady.
Let me make it easy for you here.
Make sure I spell his last name correctlybecause I have been one to misspell.
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I mean, I can't even hardly speak English.
Robby Gallady, r o b b y g a l l a t y.
Yeah.
Just do a quick Google search.
You'll pastor Robbie, Long Hollow Church.
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Awesome guy.
Awesome guy.
Can't speak enough about him.
He's got some books out, it looks like.
So anyway, thank you guys for listening.
I checked the box.
I got my per diem today.
Pray you're getting your per diem.
Pray you're killing it.
Catch up to some old episodes.
I got new ones dropping every single day.
We're approaching the hundred mark.
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I don't not that there's nothing special comingfor the hundredth episode.
I'm not Donald Trump's not coming on.
Right?
I don't have, you know, I don't have MichaelJordan.
You know, Larry Bird was tied up, so I couldn'tget him to join.
So maybe it'll just be Shelby and I in the hottub, smoking a cigar, and maybe that'll be the
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hundredth But nothing is planned.
Nothing special.
So some of you guys have asked about that.
And I do plan to keep it alive after a hundred.
At least, that's my plan today.
Might get to the hundredth episode and totallychange my mind.
But thanks for listening.
Pray that you're getting your pretty and praythat you're killing it.
Pray you check back in tomorrow.
Thanks, guys.
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