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I I've talked with I did a podcast with a guyby the name of Keaton Turner, and he has this
podcast out there called the Per Diem podcast.
Really encourage you to listen to it.
It's really good.
He posts every day.
That's insane.
But one of the things that he talks about a lotis, you know, if you're going to do that, if
you're going to go into business for yourself,it's gotta be in you.
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Like, you you can't not do it because it it isthe hardest thing that you probably will
experience.
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He's not wrong.
He is not wrong.
It's the hardest thing you'll ever do.
That's audio from my good friend, Josh Malott.
And and, man, he's not wrong.
He he said one word in that montage there, thatintro that that hit me hard, and that word's
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insane.
It takes a certain level of insanity to doanything big, Start a company.
Leave hometown and move across the country.
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Leave your friends behind and go chase a dream.
Break up with the girlfriend or boyfriendthat's holding you back.
I mean, it takes a certain level of insanity togo chase something.
And man, that gets me fired up.
I I couldn't be more proud to be called insane.
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I I remember I remember when I started.
I remember when I started the business in theearly days, back before I had any employees.
I didn't have a logo yet.
I didn't have any company trucks.
No contracts, obviously.
No customers.
I had no faith from from really anybody elseoutside.
I had my wife that obviously always believed inthe mission.
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But I think the word that a lot of people wouldhave used eight years ago to describe Turner
Mining Group was insanity.
Two days ago, we we hit a milestone, eightyears in business officially.
03/30/2025, '8 years in business.
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I think it takes insanity.
Now it takes a ton of effort.
It takes dedication.
It takes all sorts of things, but it's kind offitting to be dropping this hundredth episode
of the Purdium Podcast so close to the eightyear anniversary of the company.
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I've said before many times.
You guys have heard me say it on the DaveRamsey podcast, I'd have never done this had I
known what it would take.
I would have never started a business.
Had I known what it would take, I would havenever done it.
Had I known the relationships it would havecost, the stress, the financial toll,
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especially in the early years, like, I'd havenever done it.
I'd have stayed cozy.
I'd have stayed comfy.
I'd have kept my life kinda lukewarm.
Not not cold.
Right?
I wasn't cold.
I was fine.
Making a making a fine living, making 6figures.
Things were good.
I had a house.
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Beautiful little family.
My life wasn't cold, but it definitely wasn'ton fire.
I definitely was not throttle wide open.
I definitely was not living up to my truepotential, and I was not scratching the itch
that I had deep down in my soul to go dosomething crazy.
And so I let my insanity run wild and, made thejump, and I've never looked back and couldn't
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be couldn't be more thankful I did it.
This is episode 100 of the Purdium Podcast.
I I told you guys I didn't have anythingspecial planned, and I don't.
I don't have any special guests.
I to be honest with you, this podcast has acertain level of insanity kind of woven
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throughout.
To do a hundred episodes in a row back to backevery single day, I think you have to be
somewhat insane.
And honestly, I didn't have any real finishline in mind when I started this.
I just I I like to try things.
I thought, you know what?
Let's let's drop a podcast every day.
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See what happens.
And so far, what's happened is people have sewnthe Purdium Podcast patch on their shirts
because I don't have any swag to buy.
People have people have literally got PurdiumPodcast printed on their shirts.
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People have sent stuff to the office.
I got a trophy from Joe Lord for the fiftiethepisode of the Purdue and Podcast.
I think it's made my wife and I have a littlebit deeper level of conversations, especially,
when she gets feedback from other people.
Oh, hey.
I heard this on the podcast.
I saw that.
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I I talked to an old friend the other day thatI haven't seen in a long time, and and he's
like, dude, my wife and I listen to it everyday.
It's made our marriage better.
It's made me a better boss at work.
I've had people reach out that I don't know.
I've had grown men send me videos ofthemselves.
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I've got one grown man that sent me a video ofhimself with no shirt on.
Shout out Scott Lidster.
I've had major OEMs, Caterpillar, Komatsu,others send me random messages like, hey, we're
listening.
Our teams are listening.
I had our insurance our our new insurancepartner, Aon, shout out to the Aon folks, start
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to listen and consume it and give me feedbackand give me topic ideas and all these things.
Shout out Jim Dunn and and and Dan and andJohnny and the whole team.
I've had my own people listen to it.
I've had people use my words against me.
Shout out to Patton.
A hundred episodes in, a hundred days in, whicha hundred days is not very long, there has been
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a unbelievably wild response to me putting outaudio from the front seat of my pickup truck.
And so I can't say thank you enough for for thepeople that listen.
I can't say thank you enough for the 70 pluspeople that have left reviews.
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Those of you that have not left a review andyou've listened to all hundred episodes, you're
still dead to me.
Absolutely dead to me.
But I can tell you the impact that it has made,I would have never imagined.
I would have never guessed.
If you had told me this a hundred days ago,right before the end of the year, I started
this kind of between Christmas and New Year's,if I remember correctly.
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If you had told me the the things people wouldhave
said, like the emails that I have received, thethe, like, tears I got a message yesterday from
a guy.
I can't read it.
I wish I could read it to you guys.
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That the guy was in tear full grown man intears writing the email, or so he says.
Hopefully, he's not just saying that to pull upmy heartstrings.
I think he was being honest.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
I and I can't tell you how wild it is, theimpact it's made, in a hundred days.
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Oh, I got somebody calling.
Every time.
Every time.
Every time I push record on this thing anymore,I got somebody calling trying to get on the
line.
They're just trying to get their moment in thesun.
I'm gonna ignore that one.
I was in a moment.
I was I was on one talking about how thankful Iam for the impact it's made.
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I would have never guessed it.
This podcast is so similar to Turner MiningGroup and Turner Staffing Group in the in the
in the theme that massive action has blown meaway at the results.
That's how that that's that's how they aresimilar.
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When I started Turner Mining Group, I never ina million years imagined being here at eight
years.
I never in a million years thought this waspossible eight years in as a business.
Turner Staffing Group's the same way.
We've got hundreds of people staffed across thecountry for big logos, big names, big
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companies.
I would have never in a million years thoughtthat was possible when we started the company.
And this podcast is another example of how Ijust wasn't thinking big enough.
I I wasn't thinking this impact was possible.
Hold one second.
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Thank you.
Guys, I'm in the I'm in the truck wash, gettingthe black truck washed today.
I I need to go do the same thing to the Bronco.
But I I never in a million years imagined thatif you put action to something and you stay
committed and you put your head down and youdon't, you don't really think about the end
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result.
You think about all the little steps along theway.
It's amazing what can happen.
I, I when I wake up and think about thispodcast and and and recording an episode, I
don't think about the people it's gonna impact.
I don't think about the companies that aregonna reach out and wanna sponsor it.
I don't think about selling a hat or a t shirtand making some money.
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I don't think about any of that.
I don't think about episode 300.
I don't think about when I end it.
When is the podcast over?
When am I done?
I just think about the episode that I'mrecording that day.
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What's the topic today?
What's going in my life to what's going on inmy life today?
What would people resonate with today?
I think about how do I deliver value one moreday?
How do I how do I touch on things that areapplicable not only to my life, but other
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people's lives?
I just take it day by day.
And and, man, the same has been so true for forTurner Mining Group.
I of course, it's fun to dream big.
Right?
It's fun to think about the big fleets and thebig customers and the billion dollar contract
someday.
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I I think about that stuff for five or tenminutes at a time.
But I wake up thinking about what needs to getdone in my business today.
I just take it one day at a time, massiveaction.
With all that being said, this has been a lotof fun.
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And, and I know I'm not gonna get, any standingovations.
I'm probably gonna get more boos and moremiddle fingers, because of the, cult like
following some of you guys have built.
But this is the final episode of the PurdiumPodcast.
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There has to be an end date.
There's never a good time to end something.
There's never a good time, in my opinion, tosend your kid off to college.
Right?
It's gonna be hard either way.
There's never a good time to sell the companyof your dreams that you've been you know, you
spent thirty years building.
There's never a good time.
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Could I do a hundred more episodes?
I don't know.
Maybe.
But it would be just as painful to stop atepisode 200 as it is to stop at episode 100.
And so this is the final episode of the PurdiumPodcast.
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The topic of the final episode is very simple,and I think it's a a very kinda interesting
case study when you look at the podcast, ahundred thousand plus downloads in a hundred
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days.
A guy that literally designed the logo in hisliving room on an iPad.
A guy that has no production team, no marketingbudget, no practice.
I don't take any, like, coaching for this.
I haven't paid any podcast companies to promoteit.
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I haven't taken a dollar in sponsorships.
It's an interesting case study on what isactually possible being a normal guy that's not
that intelligent but applying massive action.
That's the topic.
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When I look at how my life could have gone fromwhen I was 23, four, five, 20 six years old,
and then ultimately 27 years old when I madethe leap and and and jumped and started my own
company, There's really only kinda one themethat I can attribute, like, the foundation of
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the results of my life currently.
Now, you guys have heard me talk about my wife.
You've heard me talk about a lot offoundational business principles.
You've heard me talk about marketing.
You've heard me talk about sales.
You've heard me talk about faith, my faith inthe Lord, the Gospel, how it helps me on my
worst days, and how it can humble me on my bestdays.
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But I think the one thing that kind of is thecommon denominator to all those things and has
been kind of a thread throughout the last tenyears of my life that is attributed to kind of
where I'm at, whatever successes, I've realizedso far, and hopefully the success is still yet
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to come.
The theme is action.
Taking action.
Sounds simple.
Sounds dumb.
I know it's not sexy.
It's not a sexy way to end the podcast, butit's just starting.
A lot of people get so tied up in in making itperfect.
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A lot of people get so tied up in the planning.
I want the logo to be perfect.
I want the website to be perfect.
I don't even have a website for the PrettyMPodcast.
The first year of our business at Turner MiningGroup, didn't have a website.
The first version of our business cards Ihanded out were blank white cards with my name
and phone number and an email address.
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The most unsexy thing possible.
It takes action.
No matter what result you want to see in yourlife, and this is gonna be inspirational,
motivational, preachy, how whatever you wannawhat however you wanna say it.
I I'm giving you the number one secret.
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I believe the number one secret to success isaction, action, action, compounding every day
for years on end.
And and and by the way, that's not perfectaction.
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Half of the action I take is the wrong action.
Half of the moves I make are failures.
Half of the things I try never get off theground.
Half of the ideas in my brain are bad ones.
But I still deploy action.
And when you deploy action to the wrong thing,what it teaches you time after time, compounded
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year after year, is how to get better atdeploying action to the right things.
Had I watered down the last ten years of mylife, have I watered down all the action and
only deployed action to the right things andnot deployed action to all the wrong things,
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the mis steps, the bad contracts, the moneylosing, the relationship ending, the failures
over the last ten years, had I only deployedaction to the right things, I wouldn't be near
as far along in my journey as I am.
I wouldn't be near as successful.
I wouldn't I wouldn't be the same person.
The beauty is when you can deploy actionconsistently and experience all the wrong
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things.
Experience the bad conversations.
Experience the bad financial months, the badfinancial years.
Experience the heartbreaking relationships.
That's where the that's where the magic sauceis.
That's what leads to all of the success longterm.
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But it takes action, and it takes committedaction every single day.
A lot of people, again and I have this I havethis problem in my own life.
I get scared.
I get scared of taking action.
Every time we climb one step up in ourbusiness, it's a little scarier to look down.
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Every time we get one step bigger, whether it'sa bigger project, a bigger equipment loan, a
bigger debt number on the balance sheet, abigger opportunity that we're chasing, a bigger
salary for some legit person that we have tohire.
Every time we make that step, that small step,deploying little action to get one step higher,
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it's super easy for me to look down and belike, holy crap.
We've climbed a lot of steps over 2,300.
We're way up here.
This fall is gonna hurt if we stumble.
It's easy to get scared.
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It's easy not to deploy action and stay comfy.
Let life happen to you.
Not take life by the balls.
It's it's easy.
I love it.
Trust me.
A lot of days, I'd love to sit on the couch andnot take action.
But man, something really wild happens, even tothe dumb ideas, Something really wild happens
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if you deploy action consistently for a longtime.
And I wish I could say something different tomake people believe it.
I wish I could say something different.
I wish that and I know guys and again, this isgonna sound gonna sound like I'm bragging.
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I'm not.
I promise you, I'm not because I'm this is thelast day this is the last day to talk to you
guys.
I know guys that have been doing podcasts foryears, years that are way more uniquely
positioned to build an audience than I am.
I am a dirt mover.
I'm I'm a guy trying to build a mining company.
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I know guys that sell books that have podcasts.
I know guys that are like big time CEOs with5,000 employees that have a podcast, and they
don't have a hundred thousand downloads incumulative over the life of their podcast.
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And you gotta ask the question, well, why doeswhy does this one, like, dirt mover guy who is
very average, is very normal, Why does he havemore momentum and traction and and downloads?
And it's it's super simple.
I think it's super simple.
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I think it's just deploying massive action.
And I did this for, I've told you guys, I didthis for a lot of reasons.
I did this podcast for a lot of reasons.
There was a lot of angles, a lot of angles Ididn't get to that I wanted to get to.
But I really also, you know, wanted to do thisto see what it see what it could turn into.
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See what kind of potential this thing did haveif I did it every single day.
I knew if I did a weekly podcast, it would getlost in a sea of a million other weekly
podcasts.
The Turner Mining Live podcast.
We I was just talking to our guy yesterday.
How do we revive that and get that morefrequent?
We get some downloads.
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Right?
We we've we've got people that listen to it,but there's something about action every single
day that I think is addictive.
I think you can see a little bit of progressevery day.
The first day of doing sit ups, push ups,crunches, whatever, sucks.
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The second day, no fun.
The third day, horrible.
You're sore.
The twentieth day, still no fun.
Maybe they're a little bit easier because youbuilt up some some muscle.
The hundredth day, it's still not fun.
The push ups, the sit ups, it's still the samelevel of effort.
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It's not fun.
Your body doesn't wanna do it.
Your mind doesn't wanna do it.
But I think deploying action day after daycompounds the result, especially when you do it
year after year.
And and and I think if I could leave you guys,this audience, even me, if I I'm I'm you know,
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I'm 36 now.
I'm no, I'm no young pup anymore, but I'm stillyoung enough to be dangerous.
If I could if I could, like, just say somecommon theme that I hope to carry on in my
career, and I hope and I wish so many peoplewould carry on in their career, is action, like
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little action every single day.
The line is blowing up today.
The line is blowing up, and I'm not answeringthat one either.
Send you to voicemail.
That's what I would love to people to trulyunderstand, and especially if you're a project
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manager, if you're a labor, if you're a 16 yearold I got I got some messages from some young
kids yesterday, a 16 year old kid, grinding hisface off in the industry.
Little actions every single day compounded yearover year.
It's unbelievable.
Now they have to be the right actions.
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Right?
This podcast, I could've I could've easily donethis every single day and not built any
following, not had any downloads, not hadpeople reach out to me.
It could've gotten lost in a sea of otherthings.
You have to be applying the right action.
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You can't show up every day and say, oh, well,I showed up today to my job.
I applied action.
It's more than that.
It's the little details.
It's the 10% more effort.
It's the positivity.
It's the attitude.
It's all the things that these last hundredepisodes have talked about applied every single
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day, it's the it's the recipe.
Everybody wants to be a gazillionaire.
They want the life.
They want the car.
They want the house.
That's the recipe.
I think the recipe is there.
They want the successful marriage.
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Like, I could I could go back and listen to alot of these episodes, and I know it sounds
egotistical because I'm talking about my ownepisodes, my own voice, a lot of this stuff is
regurgitated from my brain because I've heardit from other people.
I've heard it from a coach.
I've read it in a book.
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I've lived through the failure myself, and soI'm talking from experience.
Like, I think the recipe to become wealthy, therecipe for a happy marriage, the recipe to
build a business that doesn't die on the vinebecause of poor cash flow, the recipe the
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recipe is there.
I believe it's there, but it takes action.
And it takes consistent, well thought out, wellexecuted action every single day.
Not three days a week, not five days a week.
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I think it's every single day.
And I think the goal is you wake up someday andnot recognize your old self.
That's, for me, that's the goal.
I wanna wake up in ten years.
I wanna be 46 and not recognize myself at 36.
I don't don't even want to associate myselfwith the same financial standing that I'm in
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today.
I don't even wanna think about the small impactI'm making today compared to the impact I'm
making at 46.
I don't wanna even compare my marriage now tomy marriage at 46 or the impact I have in my
kid's life.
The goal for me is to just continue to getbetter, and that happens through action.
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So I, I can't thank you guys enough forlistening to every episode.
It'll be great to get some of my time back thatI've spent on this every single day.
I know you guys will find something else tofill your airwaves with.
There's tons of other awesome podcasts outthere.
I haven't honestly had a chance to listen tohardly any of them the last hundred days
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because I've been too busy recording my own.
But there's there's other ways to go focus yourtime, energy, and attention.
And if you haven't gotten anything else out ofthis podcast other than just entertainment,
listening to what's happening in my day, That'sthat's cool too.
That's fine.
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If if you have gotten something out of itthough, and you have enjoyed listening to it, I
appreciate it.
I it's been it's been a fun experience, and andI never like I said, I never thought this kind
of action I underestimated, to be honest withyou, ironically, as I'm reflecting back on it
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now, I underestimated how crazy the resultscould be if you apply action for a hundred
days.
I kinda wish now when I started this podcast ahundred days ago that I would have started
doing push ups and sit ups at the same time.
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So maybe that's what I do now with with withthe time that I get back by not recording this
podcast.
Maybe from now on, I'm doing a hundred push upsand a hundred sit ups every day for a hundred
days.
And I come back looking like, you know, lookinglike the Hulk or something shredded.
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But I I do think for me, again, these you guyshave heard me say this.
I most of the time, I'm preaching to myself.
I do think it is wild how much I underestimatedconsistent action over one hundred days, what
it could do.
It's wild.
And, and so I'm carrying this lesson with me inthe future.
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Every business I do, every everything I put mymind to, I'm gonna remind my kids, like, don't
worry about getting it right.
Don't worry about being perfect.
Don't worry that you don't have all the answersor you're not old enough to have all the
experience.
Just apply action.
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And you're gonna screw up a lot of days.
You're gonna fail a lot of days.
You're gonna have as many or more failures thanyou do successes.
But I think action applied consistently longterm compounds.
I want to wanna do a couple things before I endhere, and and we bid farewell.
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I wanna read the last couple reviews.
I didn't get to all the reviews.
I know I didn't.
Some of you guys have left reviews, and I nevergot a chance to read them.
I apologize for that.
But I did get a couple that I did wanna read.
This this, the last review I've received isfrom my coach, Corey Carlson.
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Amazing.
I saw some guys, just on Monday, some guys thatwere in the Rise community call that that got
to that community through the Purdium Podcast.
That's amazing to me.
I got one guy that, said he and I you know,it's a bummer it's only one guy, but one guy is
plenty, that said he is now exploring hisfaith, in God because of listening to the
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podcast.
He'd never really, been a faith guy, neverreally been religious or thought about God, and
and some of the things that he heard on thepodcast, he was exploring that journey.
So so there's been some really cool stuff.
Corey Carlson leaves a five star review.
We end we end the podcast with all five starreviews.
There's not been one review less than fivestars, so I appreciate that.
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That that makes me feel like we accomplishedour mission of a perfect score and we're going
out undefeated, which that's the way to go out.
If you can go out undefeated, that's a prettygood way to go out.
Corey Carlson says, Rare peek inside a legitleader.
One of the best podcasts out there because youget a rare and raw peek to the inside of the
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life of a CEO.
If you wanna learn about the ups and downs ofbeing a business leader and family leader, you
must listen to this podcast.
D man seven seven seven says he feels lost whenhe misses a day.
This podcast has become such a routine for methat if I miss a morning of listening, my whole
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day feels off.
I'm not involved in the dirt world, but my wifeand I are both business owners and we relate to
the podcast so much.
The advice given is truly priceless.
Don't be a Delbert.
Thanks, D man.
You know, breaks my heart because you're gonnafeel lost, but you got a hundred episodes you
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can go back and reflect back on.
And and, you know, I I never wanted to buildthis thing just to leave people hanging.
That was not the goal.
There was no goal.
There there was no goal.
There was no thought.
There was just action.
When I get an idea, I apply action.
So so d man, appreciate the five stars,brother.
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Makes me feel good.
Makes me feel loved, and, and I appreciate it.
And the last thing I wanna say, because I I geta lot of people that that reach out.
But first of all, I'm I promise I am stillgoing to send the personal development
dashboard.
If if you've been waiting on it, I have had onething after the other pop up in my business
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life, and I just have not got a chance to taketime to go through the whole list of all the
email addresses and put them in a Mailchimp tosend it out.
I'm gonna do that.
Don't give up on me.
Keep your fingers crossed.
If you're if you're still interested in the inthe personal development dashboard and you have
not emailed me, it's not too late because Ihave not sent it out yet, but you need to send
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an email today.
If you don't send an email today, you mightmiss the window.
Once I close this window, it's gonna be a longtime before I reopen it and check my emails
again.
So if you want in on this personal developmentdashboard that Corey Carlson developed that
I've added some tweaks to, email me.
The email address is podcastprayforperdiem dotcom.
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That's the email address, podcastprayforperdiemdot com.
And I get, you know, I get some emails fromguys that are feeling down on themselves, are,
that have gone through a hard time.
You know, there was, I wanted to do the DeathValley discussions where I get a bunch of these
guys to come on and talk.
I wanted to get some more guests on.
I just, I just don't have the time, to get allthese ideas done that I wanted to.
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And so some of you guys that have felt down onyourself, felt like you've failed, you're
comparing yourselves to other people, I heardthis the other day, and I wrote it down.
And it said, pick yourself up.
Pick yourself up.
Stop being down on yourself.
Stop worrying about falling down.
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The freaking itsy bitsy spider didn't let therain keep him down.
He climbed up that gutter again.
And I love that.
I'm gonna put that on a t shirt and sell it.
You think the itsy bitsy spider let the waterkill him?
Might've might've might've come close.
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No.
He didn't let it kill him.
He got back up.
He climbed up back up that spout again.
And I I loved that when I heard it.
Don't be the itsy bitsy spider.
Do not let it keep you down.
Get back up.
Keep fighting.
You didn't get the promotion.
Your woman isn't showing you respect.
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Your boss is dogging you, your business is inthe dumps, whatever you're up against, apply
some action.
Repeat it day after day.
Stay consistent.
Don't try to find motivation.
Try to find consistency.
And I promise you, you look up a year from now,you look up two years from now, life is gonna
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be different.
I I'm looking up a hundred days later afterstarting this thing, and I cannot fathom the
impact.
In the same way I'm looking up eight yearsafter starting my business, and I I I can't
even describe to you how much I didn't thinkthat was possible.
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Massive action applied every single day.
Week after week, month after month, year afteryear, you're gonna look up someday, and you're
gonna be in a better spot.
If you get so caught up in the day to dayfailures, the day to day ball kickings, the day
to day struggles, the day to day stress, andyou give up, you never get that beautiful
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moment where you can look, you know, you canlook up, you can pull your head out of the
weeds for just long enough to appreciate howfar you've come.
And, and it's fun.
It's a really fun moment for me to do this herea hundred episodes in and eight years into
business.
It's really fun for me to look up, be so blownaway that it's possible for a normal guy like
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me, who is a Delbert to the core, a redneck.
It's so awesome to see that this is possible.
With with very little resources, very littleformal training, just really sheer grit and
sheer action, and a million mistakes, a millionlessons, but sheer action every single day.
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It's it's crazy what can happen.
So thank you guys for listening.
I I'm gonna send you off one more time, and Ipray that now and forever, you are grinding
your face off every single day, you're applyingaction, and you're earning your per diem.
Thanks so much.