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August 13, 2025 • 53 mins
Keaton Turner begins by addressing Josh Mellott, offering encouragement and updates on wrapping up Season Two. He reflects on past chapters, gut instincts, and his mother's health, intertwining personal commitments with business. The episode delves into mindset, late-night decisions, and knowing when to walk away from life's various aspects, including employee departures. Keaton discusses emotions and finding peace in letting go, reevaluating life, and time management. He reflects on Season Two, teases Season Three, and expresses listener appreciation. The episode concludes with discussions on Turner Staffing, wine walks, marketing challenges, and maximizing podcast impact, bidding farewell to Season Two.
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In all reality, Keaton, I am just sending youthis.
This really is for you.
And I'm doing it because I have experience inhaving a small platform.
When people actually send me things andwhatnot, it often is extremely encouraging and

(00:39):
uplifting to help me continue to go.
This past week started out in the beginning ofthe week, I think it was Tuesday or Monday,
taking my son it was Monday, taking my son towork.
And I heard about your weekend and what you'vebeen going through, and him and I prayed for

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you on the way to work.
And I just all all week, it's been bothering methat I wanted to send you something, and I
wanted to encourage you.
And I read here the other morning in Galatians,I believe it was Galatians six nine, it says,
let us not grow weary of doing good.

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For in due time or in good time, we willreceive the reward.
Now this is really important what I'm about tosay next.

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It's important.
Trust me.
Trust me.
What he has to say next is important, but I'mnot gonna let you hear it.
At least not yet.
Those are those are words.
That's a video from my good friend, mister JoshMalott.

(02:06):
Josh, I appreciate the video, man, more thanyou'll ever know.
I appreciate you and your son praying for meand my situation more than you'll ever know and
my family's situation.
It's not my situation.
Man, I love getting videos like that.
And and I ended I don't know if you guys knowthis or not.

(02:29):
I ended season one of the Purdium podcast witha video from Josh Mellot, with some audio from
Josh Mellot talking about being insane, howinsane you have to be to do something.
And I'm gonna stick with that theme.

(02:51):
This is the final episode of season two of thePurduem podcast.
I I felt it was only fitting to end it.
There are so many videos.
I mean, you guys I've been saying it for, Idon't know, probably weeks now how far behind I
am with messages and and videos and responsesfrom all the things you guys have sent into the

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Purduem hotline.
Can't thank you enough for all that.
I picked this one because he has an amazingmessage, And I know I'm leaving you on a
cliffhanger here, because what he says isimportant, but but I'm doing that on purpose.
I this isn't goodbye just because this is thelast episode.

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It's not goodbye, at least not forever.
It's the end of a chapter.
I I've told you guys how many times in my lifeI, you know, I think about things in chapters.
I don't get too romantic about any one chapter.
I had an interesting conversation yesterdaywith mister Jeffrey Turner, CFO, and and, man,

(04:00):
I just don't get romantic about a chapterclosing.
It's you you you can let yourself excuse me.
You can let yourself get romantic.
You can you can get all emotional and in yourfeels and and something really fun and good and
neat and your life might be coming to an end, Itry so hard to think about the next chapter

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coming.
I've tried to do that with every every chapterI've lived through in my personal life.
I've tried to do that with the fallout thatI've had with family, both both on my side and
and Shelby's side.
I've tried to do that with my own business, youknow, early chapters, early customers, early

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management regimes that were that I put inplace that that that lived through a really fun
chapter.
I mean, I I every once in while, I go backthrough our old Dropbox folders and look at
pictures of our guys in the office from, youknow, 02/2019.
And, man, I mean, it's easy to get emotional.
It's easy to get sentimental.
It's easy to get caught up in your feels.

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But I've gone through enough chapters in mylife, and I and not that many.
I'm only 36.
But I've gone through enough chapters in mylife to realize there's always another chapter
coming.
Could be a good chapter.
Could be a really bad chapter.
Who knows?
But I felt like this needed to be the end ofthis chapter.
I don't know why.
I was hoping to make it to another 100episodes.

(05:36):
We're gonna fall short of that one in seasontwo.
Got close.
Don't know why I'm I don't know why I'm feelinglike it's the time to end the chapter, but I
I'm I'm one of these guys that really try tofollow my gut.
I try to I try to listen to what my brain andmy soul and my gut are telling me.

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And, for some reason last night again, I had noplans to do this, by the way.
I had another week or so, two weeks worth of,of stuff to drop.
Had several video really, really, some funnyvideos and some cool videos from some of you
guys.
I can't tell you why.
I just felt like it was it needed to be the endof this chapter.

(06:21):
I got other things to go focus on, believe itnot.
I got other things that I wanna go put my timeand energy into.
And an hour a day, it's no big deal.
I've you know, forty five, thirty thirty, fortyfive minutes, sixty minutes a day.
It's not the end of the world, but but this isthe end of the chapter, and, and it's not
goodbye.
I think it's I think it's I think it's, we'llwait and see what the next chapter holds.

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My hope is that I get the inspiration and andthe gut feel to wanna do this again and start
start the podcast back up.
Hopefully, there's chapter three, but I'm notgonna promise that.
So let's let's get into today's episode.
Now that you hear the news, this is the lastepisode of chapter two.

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Life has been weird lately.
I'll be honest.
Life has been weird.
I it's and it's probably my own weirdness.
I got some I wouldn't say great news in thelast couple days, but definitely got some news
yesterday that my mom is gonna have to pauseher clinical trial.

(07:34):
You know, she as she goes through the clinicaltrial of chemo, radiation, and and an
experimental drug, she you know, they measureher levels every week, and there are all kinds
of different levels.
But, you know, to spare you of all the details,her levels were low, too low to keep going.
And so, she's gonna have to pause, chemo andpause the, the experimental drug, which, you

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know, can kinda take the wind out of yoursails, especially when we were as close to the
end as we were.
We had, you know, a week left.
She's got a week left.
She's kinda halfway through her fifth week, andso she had her final week, left.
But she I talked to her this morning in greatspirits as usual.
She's a savage, and she's excited.

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I mean, she's excited to feel better.
She was feeling just horrible.
I don't know if you guys know anybody that'sbeen through chemo, radiation.
It's not fun when you hear about it.
Right?
But until you live through it or have a have a,you know, a close loved one live through it,
you just don't really know how to comprehendhow how much of a bummer it can be for life.

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She was just feeling really bad the last fewdays.
And so she's excited to she's excited as shecan be to pause and get back to, you know,
hopefully feeling a little bit better here fora while and get an appetite again and eat a
little bit.
So that's been going on.

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Man, there's just it's just been it's justbeen, for me, probably more mindset than
anything, but there's so much good that I haveto look forward to.
We're chasing some big projects.
I got a side project that I really need to needand want to spend more time on.
It's not a side hustle, but it's it's somethingI'm slowly dipping my toe in to try to get off

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the ground a little bit to figure out how muchtime and attention and effort it's gonna take.
So I so I wanna go, you know, put some effortand energy into that side project.
But the conversation I had with Jeff lastnight, I'm gonna paraphrase some of it.
I wrote something down right before I went tobed.
Actually, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

(09:48):
I wrote something down after I went to bed.
I I slept.
I went to bed early.
I slept, and I woke up, I don't know, sometimein the middle of the night, which sometimes
happens, not always.
But I went in the bathroom, which is where Ikeep my phone plugged in, and and I wrote
something down.
I don't know why I wrote something down.
I have no idea why it hit me in the middle ofthe night.

(10:12):
And it's ultimately why I decided today wasgonna be the final episode of of season two.
What I wrote down, I texted it to myself, whichis weird.
It's kinda one of those things I do when I, youknow, when I'm in a hurry and wanna take a
quick note that I wanna remember later.
I just shoot a text to myself.
I don't know if any of you guys do that.

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But what I texted myself was, no one to walkaway.
No one to walk away.
This is is one I have I have battled forever myown my entire life.
I'll never forget.
I come from a basketball family, and my dadplayed basketball in college at Indiana State.

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He was one of these stud standouts in hislittle hometown, and then went to Indiana State
to play basketball with one of the all timegreats, some would argue the all time great,
Larry Bird.
And so, you know, growing up, we're abasketball family.
I played basketball.
My brother played basketball.
My sister played basketball.

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My brother was eight up with basketball fromthe time he, you know, could walk.
He was dribbling a basketball round.
Played it every day.
He was a one sport athlete, four you know, twostate championship titles, the only the only
two that our high school has won in in severallifetimes.

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And then gets a full ride to go play basketballin college.
It's, you know, it was awesome to watch himgrow up and play ball.
But I'll never forget sitting in I was asophomore.
It was summer summer workouts.
I played basketball my my freshman year and mysophomore year.
And I'll never forget sitting in the coach'svarsity coach's office telling him that I'm

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walking away.
I'm not gonna play basketball anymore.
And and I didn't you know, I love basketball,but I didn't love it enough, and I wasn't
talented enough to go compete and spend everyday practicing.
I just I just didn't have that passion for itlike my brother did.
And and so for me, it was really tough momentto walk away from something that my family, you

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know, was just absolutely, you know,emotionally and physically invested in.
So I walked away.
I didn't play basketball my junior and senioryear.
You know, a a weird way kinda felt like at thetime I was letting the family down.
Fast forward, I go to college.

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I graduate from college.
I get into the family business.
And for a lot of reasons, I've talked aboutsome of them on the podcast here, but a lot of
reasons, at one point in my life, I decidedit's time to walk away.
And and, man, that that moment and the people Ifeel like I let down in that moment pales in

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comparison to quitting, you know, quittingbasketball.
You know, quitting the family business, that'sa tough thing to do.
But for me, I I just felt like it was my timeto walk away.
I felt like I had run my course.
I had gotten done the things I wanted to getdone.

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I had, you know, helped build the thing, towhere I thought I could help build it.
And and I don't know.
I don't know if it was a mental thing.
I don't know if it was a soul thing.
I don't know if God was telling me somethingback then.
I probably didn't listen to God near as much asI should have.
Maybe it was just a gut thing.
I don't know.
But it felt like to me it was time to walkaway, and I should have known, you know, hey.

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This is a feeling you gotta listen to, and it'stime to walk away.
I I have done this over and over, and at timesI'm not gonna go through all of the the the
juicy, gory details, but at times, I havewalked away too late.
And there have been other times when I walkedaway from something too early.

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I didn't see it through.
I should have given it more time.
Should have stuck with it a little bit longer.
I don't know that we ever know if we made theright decision.
You know, you can always you can always playMonday morning quarterback and think back to
the times you should have stayed in your joblonger or should have stayed with the family

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business longer or should have kept an employeelonger.
Several of you guys that have messaged me thatare going through Death Valley in your business
and wondering, it time to walk away?
Some of you guys are wondering, man, should Ishould I keep going a little bit longer?
I don't think you ever really know how yourdecision would've, could've, should've played

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out.
I think all we can do is follow our gut.
Follow what our what our brain is telling us.
Follow what our soul is feeling, and and I'mtrying to get better at that.
Nothing I've obviously, you guys know this.
Nothing lasts forever.
People walk away from really good jobs.

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I had a I had a really what I thought was areally solid, awesome employee walk away from
our company here in the in the last few weeks,and it's a bummer.
It was, you know, it's a bummer to watchpeople, you know, close one chapter and jump
into a new chapter.
I'm pumped for them.
Gotta be excited for people jumping into a newchapter.

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But for me, I think it's really important toremind myself or at least check-in with myself
on when is it time to walk away from fromwhatever I I'm doing in life.
When is it time to walk away from a podcast?
You know, when is it time to walk away frompeople?

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We've you know, Shelby and I, fortunately orunfortunately, have both had to walk away from
some people in our life that man, I would havenever in a million years expected that to be a
chapter of our lives.
I would have never in a million years expectedto close that chapter and turn the page into a

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new chapter.
We never expected it.
But I can tell you now sitting where we sit howamazing it has been and how peaceful it has
been to close a chapter on some people thatused to be in our lives that aren't anymore.
I mean, it's been it's been when I compare mypeace, my mental peace now of course, I got my

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own mental struggles with all kinds of BS anddrama and all that.
But when I compare my mental mental piece nowto when some of those folks were in our lives,
it's incomparable.
I I mean, it's it's totally different, and it'sa bummer.
I mean, that's the that's the trick.
That's the challenge.
That's like the the fork in the road withknowing when to walk away.

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It's usually a bad feeling.
It's usually a bad feeling.
It's a bummer for me, and I know I'm gonna getmessages from you guys.
Some of you guys are gonna be thankful.
Other guys are gonna be mad.
Other guys are gonna what am I gonna listen to?
Some of you guys are gonna send me messagesabout me ending season two of the podcast here

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and going on a hiatus for however long, maybemaybe forever.
It's a bummer.
I I feel you.
Trust me.
I don't, like, I don't enjoy, you know, bummingyou guys out.
Same way when you cut someone out of your livesand close that chapter.
It is a massive, massive bummer.

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It not only bums you out because you're havingto make the decision.
It bums the other people out because they'regetting the decision made that they're no
longer in your life.
It bums the people on the outside.
Some of you guys have cut a friend out and itmakes the friend group weird.
Some of you guys have had to break up with agirlfriend or or maybe, you know, divorce a

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wife or end a engagement, and you're cuttingher whole family out of your life.
It's a bummer.
It sucks.
I mean, knowing when to walk away usually iswrapped in guilt.
It's usually wrapped in frustration.

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It's usually wrapped in just a overwhelmingfeeling of being tired.
I man.
I wish I could articulate what I feel so muchbetter than I do.
Again, I'm a redneck with little polish.
I, I told Shelby last night we were laying inbed.
No TV.
No any of that.
We you know, I got in bed at, 09:30, which issuper early for me.

(19:10):
I just laid there and we were talking, and Iwas like, you know what?
I just feel tired.
I can't explain it.
I was I wasn't, like, physically tired.
I hadn't, like, done anything crazy that day orthat week.
I wasn't still sore from water skiing lastweekend.
I didn't, like, have a bunch of meetings thatdrained me or anything like that.

(19:31):
I was just I'm like, I I just am tired.
I can't really explain it any other way.
I felt the same way when I closed the chapteron some people in my life.
And I I know she felt the same way when sheclosed the chapter on some people in her life.

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It's not fun.
You just get to a point where you're justtired.
You're just mentally, even physically anddefinitely emotionally just wore out.
It's a really weird feeling.
Some of you guys are gonna, you know, relate tothis.
Others are of you are gonna be like, wow.
I'm worried about this guy.

(20:12):
What's going on?
Don't be worried about me.
I promise I'm great.
But but knowing when to walk away is usuallywrapped in some of those feelings, being being
tired, maybe even a little frustrated, but justguilty.

(20:36):
You know, that's that's another feeling that Ithat I know that her and I have both gone
through and maybe some of you guys have gonethrough.
You know, I've done this with customers.
We we had to walk I think I told the story onetime on a on a previous episode, maybe it's
back in season one, walking away from one ofour biggest contracts.
At one point in time, this has been way longtime ago, Local three operating engineers

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screwed us out of a $25,000,000 contract with acustomer, tried to bend us over and get us to
join and sign, and and we were really close tosigning a signatory deal, and it all fell apart
in twelfth hour.
And thank God, you know, we avoided some ofthat, but it cost us $25,000,000 customer.

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Knowing when to walk away is so important.
We walked away from that one.
I had another gold op I mean, we've walked awayfrom several big customers and big
opportunities.
I had a gold opportunity, I think I told youguys here recently.
It was, you know, it was $200,000,000 or a$150,000,000, whatever it was.
And in the twelfth hour, we had to walk away.
And I'm so thankful we did.

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The peace I feel now where I sit because of thefolks my wife and I have walked away from is so
peaceful.
It's so peaceful.
It's still a bummer.
We still feel bad about it.

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It's not fun.
We don't get excited to like We don't cheereach other on and say, hey, so glad we had to
cut people out of our lives.
This kind of seems very un Christian thing todo.
I've some people try to, you know, make me feelconvicted on that.
When you go through so much and your gut tellsyou something and your soul tells you

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something, your brain's telling you something,maybe it's time to walk away.
And knowing when the right time, that's thehard one to answer.
That's the hard one to answer.
So for me, I'm really trying to be in tune withthat across all areas of my life, with
customers, with employees, with friendships,with things with just even habits and things I

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do.
You know, there's so many little things in mylife that I honestly should be reevaluating and
walking away from, and I haven't.
Haven't felt a push.
I haven't you know, it hasn't been a gut feelthing yet.
But but, man, there are things I know if if anyof this makes any sense to you guys and what

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you're going through.
There are things that you are going to feelsome sort of urge somewhere.
Maybe it's in your head.
Maybe it's in your gut.
Maybe it's in your heart.
There are gonna be these little urges to walkaway from something.
Could be a job.
Could be a girlfriend.
Could be some friends or family that aren'tserving your life well.

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The beauty of going through such a terriblesituation with family health stuff is that you
really start to question the time that youpersonally have left and how you're spending
it.
Who are spending it with?
Are you in a good mental state and enjoying thelife have?

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Are you able to look around and appreciate thethings you have?
Or are you just caught up in the meat grinderof life, head down every single day?
It's it's one of the things I've really beenand I don't know if you can tell it in some of
the episodes lately.
I don't know if you can tell it in my tone overthe last couple months.

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I mean, the kind of the cool part about thisthe second season of the podcast is you guys
got to hear me precancer diagnosis from mymother.
And then, like, 20 episodes or 25 episodes in,maybe it was 30, I took a two week hiatus where
I was literally in the hospital every day,almost all day.

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And then I come back after the cancerdiagnosis.
And and so, man, some of this stuff, I know Ididn't get as tactical in season two on, you
know, on business things.
I didn't talk as near as much about cash flow.
I did a little mini series on equipment.

(25:07):
We did the build the machine and how I thinkabout building the machine.
Let me go back just to see.
I was doing this I was doing this a little bityesterday to see all the episodes that we had
gone through.
One of my favorites was the gateway drugepisode.
It was it was the last episode I dropped.

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When to give up on people or when to doubledown.
The red pill versus blue pill, that was a funone.
You know, mastering equipment costs as kind ofa little miniseries.
It's it's been a it's been a fun season.
How to beat the bad days.
There was there was one I titled racism,nepotism, and haterade.

(25:51):
I made that one up.
There's few little rants in there.
We got some shirtless videos.
Man, I mean, burning the ships, skipping steps,the ride is worth the fall part one and two
with Cody Johnson, Jab, jab, jab, right hook.
We saw a young stud get a Rolex from his dad.

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That one's first contract profitability.
So I talk about speed as a competitive edgefrom one of my favorite marketers of all time,
mister Jay Baer.
Your network is your net worth.
I mean, there's there's a lot there.
But, ultimately, I'm trying to listen to thevoice inside that says, time to walk away.

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It's time to do something different.
It's time to go focus your effort somewhereelse.
And so that's what I'm doing.
A few things I'm gonna leave you guys with, andmaybe these are teasers for season three.
If there is a season three this year, maybethese are a little bit, you know, some teasers.

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But, you know, I gotta shout out a few people.
These are people that have listened, and I hateto even start doing this because I know so many
people have listened every day, and they waittill 4AM for the podcast to drop and they come

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out.
But but there are people in our organization,both Turner Mining Group and Turner Staffing
Group.
I'm just gonna give a huge broad shout out toto the staff, to the people in the field that
listen.
There's a bunch of guys in West Texas thatlisten.
I think there's some dudes in Arizona that aremining copper that listen.

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Appreciate all you guys.
I'm not gonna name any names because there'stoo many names to list, and I'm gonna forget
people, and then someone gets upset with me andsends me sends me a message.
So just thank you to all those folks thatlisten.
I just went through the other day.
I was doing this with I was doing this with theguys that visited.
Hold on one second because this is fun.

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I'm gonna tell you the areas that have the themost listeners across the I I was gonna say
across the country, but some of the toplistened areas are not even in the country.
So hold on one second.
I gotta sign in to my Apple account.

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They're gonna make me click all these buttons.
It's not just an easy thing I can pull up here.
Hold on.
We're close.
We're getting close.
We are well over 200,000 downloads, so thankyou guys for all the downloads of the podcast.
It's it's really been it's really been humblingto see it all play out the way it has and the

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number of the number of the number of listenersthat has grown.
And we never took any we never took anysponsorship dollars.
I gave some free sponsorship shout outs, but wenever took any sponsorship dollars.
So of all the cities, here are the top ratedcities by listener, like listener volume.

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So Indianapolis takes the number one spot, thenAtlanta.
Thank you guys in Atlanta for listening.
Chicago, then Charlotte, Dallas.
Then we go up to the land of Canada, Toronto,Minneapolis, St.
Louis.
I got 68 people from Bloomington, Indianalistening.

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I don't even know 68 people.
So thank you for all 68 of you guys inBloomington.
You're on the list somewhere.
Denver, Milwaukee, Salt Lake City, San Jose,California, San Antonio, Phoenix, Nashville,
New York City, Seattle, LA, Philly, Houston,Vancouver, Orlando, Omaha, Calgary, Portland,

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Miami.
I got dudes in Miami listening.
Boston, Tulsa, Sydney, Australia, Toledo,Gastonia.
I don't even know where Gastonia is.
Wilmington, Montreal, Cape Corral,Johannesburg, Albuquerque, Wichita.
I mean, there's people all over the country.
I go on on Edmonton.
Edmonton's a beautiful place.

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Shout out to you guys up in Edmonton listening.
Unbelievable.
Melbourne.
Man, I just I really appreciate it all.
I really do.
It's, it's been fun.
Brisbane, I even got seven people.
This is the scary one.
I got seven people in Bedford, Indianalistening to this.

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Need to figure out who those seven who thoseseven in Bedford are.
I appreciate it.
I really do.
It's been a lot of fun, and I I have so muchmore to say.
That's why I think there's gotta be a betterthere's gotta be there's gotta be a third
season eventually someday.

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I'm not gonna sell my, microphone setup.
I'm not gonna give away my iPad here.
But a few things.
I I showed this note, this running note to, DKand and bots when they were in town.
Got a running note full of a million podcasttopics that I never I never got to to talk
about.

(31:24):
So I'm gonna give you a couple just justteasers on on on some of these things.
One of them, I was gonna describe the TurnerMining Group org chart and how it's grown, how
it's evolved over the years, what the currentorg chart looks like.
Some of you guys ask that all the time.
Who are these people?
What do they do?
Where do they do them?
That was that was a topic.

(31:45):
One, shout out from Meredith Turner, mysister-in-law.
She said this two weekends ago when we were atthe lake together.
She said, done is better than perfect.
I wrote that one down because that that's awhole episode.
It's what I live my life by.
Nothing that I do, this episode, this podcastincluded is perfect, but but it gets done.

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I can try to get things done, try not to makethem perfect.
It's a theme that I think we need our businessto live by because we can get so caught up in
making things perfect.
So done is better than perfect.
I have another note here of a kid weed eatingin pajamas.
I was gonna make a whole episode about thisone.
I was leaving my neighborhood one morning.
There's mowing crews out.

(32:26):
There is a kid.
He's probably 15 years old.
He is weed eating wet, dewy grass in pajamas.
Literal literal, like, flannel pajama pants.
I mean, first and foremost, I gotta give themcredit.
You should never weed eat in shorts.
You'll end up having shiggers all over you, andyou'll get nicks and cuts, and it's just not
fun.

(32:46):
You hit a rock.
It hits your leg.
It it hurts a little bit.
I would never weed eat in shorts.
Wouldn't recommend it.
But I would also never weed eat in flannelpajamas, especially with wet, dewy grass.
So the kid's gonna be sopping wet by 9AM.
You know, I had written down here, what's thatsay to your boss when you show up to work
wearing pajamas?

(33:07):
What's that say to your customer?
You know, if I'm the if I'm the mowing companyand I got a kid showing up in pajamas, I'm not
letting my customer see you like that.
Freaking Delbert.
So that was probably gonna end up being a rant.
I got another one here.
Don't block your haters.
I've got this I've got this tool bag named TimH3006 that's been hating on my posts on I think

(33:34):
it's on Instagram.
Maybe it's LinkedIn.
I'm pretty sure it's on Instagram.
Tim H3006, give your mom her phone back.
I don't know that she knows that you're out onthe Internet again, scrolling through people's
posts and leaving all kinds of crazy comments.
But Tim Tim h three zero zero six, you need togive your mom your phone back.

(33:55):
But that episode was gonna be on don't blockyour haters.
I love I love my haters.
I love to go back and forth, with people.
I rarely ever block anyone.
I had another guy.
I think his name was something like SavageEarthworks or something.
I think I talked about this back in season one.
He made a whole spoof account about Turnermining and and me and my wife sleeping with the

(34:18):
crew.
I never have been able to confirm that actuallyhappened.
But, you know, don't block your haters.
That was one I had written down.
Leadership drives culture.
Culture drives behavior.
Behavior drives results.
That's another one.
I I had a whole episode lined up on that one.
And, of course, Turner Staffing shout outs androles.

(34:40):
I'm gonna do this really quick because I gottaget this in.
I told Joe Lord I was gonna get this in beforeI I before I sign off for the season.
So Joe Lord sends me a message because he lovesus now.
He's like, I got a weekly segment on the PurdueM Podcast with all these roles that Turner
Staffing is filling.

(35:00):
Love it.
We are hiring 100 ton haul truck drivers inWinnemucca, Nevada.
We got 15 plus openings.
If you or someone you know wants to drive oh,hold on.
Shelby Lee, phone call.
I'm gonna pause.
Okay.
I'm back.

(35:21):
I think she was wishing me farewell on my finalepisode.
She she basically, in a roundabout way, said,look, if you're not gonna be a famous
podcaster, I'm not sure this marriage is gonnawork.
So I gotta go home and deal with that later.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
She gives me hard time for my podcastingsometimes.
She didn't like she didn't like some of thethings I said about her recently, so I'll I'll

(35:44):
unpack that.
Maybe in season three.
Who knows?
There's a teaser.
Back to the episode.
Mister Joe Lord says we're hiring more than 15.
I don't know if that's 20.
I don't know if that's 16.
I don't if that's 30.
We got 15 plus openings for 100 ton haul truckdrivers in Winnemucca, Nevada.
This is obviously out of mine.

(36:05):
If you know anything about Winnemucca, Nevada,you could probably throw a rock and figure out
which mine we're talking about.
I'm not allowed to say their name, but we'rewe're hiring haul truck drivers.
So if you're interested in driving 100 tonrigid frame mining haul trucks, reach out to
mister Joe Lord.
Reach out to the Turner Staffing team.
I'm gonna give you Joe Lord's phone number hereat the end, but reach out to mister Joe Lord if

(36:29):
you're interested in those roles.
We are hiring four or more pit electricians inWyoming.
If you're an electrician, if you like workingin a mine environment, these are great paying
jobs.
If you're not an electrician and you're workingin a mine and you want to become electrician, I

(36:50):
highly recommend it because they're greatpaying jobs.
But we're hiring four more of these guys orgals in Wyoming looking for senior project
managers.
This huge project in Davenport, Iowa.
You guys can figure it out.
It's a data center.
We're hiring senior project managers inDavenport, Iowa.

(37:11):
We're hiring security technicians in Davenport,Iowa, and we're hiring an industrial estimator
in Davenport, Iowa.
If you're interested in any one of those three,hit up mister Joe Lord, vice president of sales
at Turner Staffing Group.
He will get you hooked up.
We are also hiring a heavy civil projectmanager in Arizona.

(37:36):
If you're project manager, if you're lookingfor a new role, if you're familiar with the
heavy civil industry and you wanna be inArizona, give Joe a call.
We're also hiring for a land surveyor inGeorgia.
And then last but not least, haul truck driversin Indiana.
I don't have any information on on how big thehaul trucks are or or or what kind or any of

(38:00):
that, but we're hiring for haul truck driversin Indiana.
I'd like to say these are big mining trucks.
I don't know if that's a 150 ton.
I don't know if that's 200 ton.
I don't if that's 250 ton.
I'm pretty sure they're 250 plus ton mininghaul trucks in Indiana.
You can figure out what that one is.

(38:20):
So I'd love to give you guys names ofcompanies.
I'd love to give you guys more details.
We're not allowed to do that.
If you're curious in any of those roles, thoseare just a few.
We got hundreds of roles at Turner StaffingGroup.
We got hundreds of people across the countryworking every single day.
If you're interested in these roles or maybeyou're not interested in these roles, but
you're ready to walk away from what you'redoing, give someone at Turner Staffing Group a

(38:47):
call.
Joe will put you in touch with the rightperson.
If you're just looking for a new job, you'rewondering what's out there, you wanna put your
skills to work for someone that will appreciatethem, maybe you're just looking to get paid a
little more money, maybe you wanna relocate toa different part of the country because you're
trying to be closer to family, Joe Lord is yourguy.
So I'm gonna give you all of his info righthere.
Joe Lord, VP of sales.

(39:08):
His cell phone number is (262) 239-2432.
The office number you can call if you're justinterested in general Turner staffing support,
general roles available, you wanna talk to arecruiter and have them get you a job
somewhere, (812) 929-7875.

(39:30):
Joe Lord's email address is super simple.
It's joe dot lord,lord,joe.lord@turnerstaffing.com.
Yeah.
If you want any more info on Turner Staffing,obviously, you can go to turnerstaffing.com.
I think all of the roles are posted there.
You know, knock yourself out.

(39:50):
Let's see.
What else?
I'm gonna run through a few more things here.
I wanted to talk about wine walks, what we do,Shelby and I, when we are feeling down and out
and we're both just drained, every once inwhile, we'll pour a glass of wine, we'll go on
a little walk.
We call them wine walks.
They work.
They're romantic.
They're sexy.

(40:10):
It's fun.
It's peaceful.
We're out in nature, but we're also drinkingnature because there's grapes and wine.
It's beautiful.
Love wine walks.
So I that that was gonna be a whole episode.
I have one here.
This one's fun.
Oh, man.
I I should have just went hard in on this onebecause this would have made a phenomenal
episode.

(40:31):
This one is called Your Environment Matters.
Show me your environment, and I'll show youyour future.
Brief summary on this one is I went to HolidayWorld.
Holiday World is a diabolical place in themiddle of nowhere Indiana cornfields.
Huge theme park, huge water park, absolutelythe complete opposite of my vibe, but I went.

(40:57):
I took my kids.
I went with my cousins, or or my my,brother-in-law and sister and her kids.
So my kids and their cousins, we did a fullday.
It was a 147 degrees.
I didn't see one person who I would wanna justhang out and talk to.
Not one person.

(41:18):
Shelby and I actually played a little game.
We said, let's let's try to find one personwho's physically fit.
One person.
There were thousands of people there.
Tens of thousands, probably.
I don't I don't know how many people werethousands of people there.
We found one person the whole day who wasphysically fit.
Holiday World, free free sponsorship, freeshout out to Holiday World.

(41:40):
They got free soft drinks if you're into thatsort of thing.
And they got free, 100 SPF sunscreen that'sbasically like someone took road chalk and
melted it down into a liquid that you canslather all over your body.
I also don't believe in sunscreen.
So that was holiday world.
At one point, I'm sitting there thinking tomyself, why is everyone at a place like this

(42:02):
with free soft drinks and fried food?
No.
The whole menu of food was fried.
Why is everyone overweight?
Why does everyone have tattoos and belly buttonrings and nose ring?
And then you go to a place like one of myfavorite places in the world, Kiawah Island,
South Carolina, beautiful resort, you don'thardly see anyone overweight.

(42:26):
You don't see anyone with tattoos.
You don't see anyone with belly button ringsand nose rings.
No one's drinking Mountain Dew.
Two different clienteles, two different sets ofnet worth, two different sets of network, two
different groups of people that are spendingtheir time in two different places.

(42:47):
Your environment matters.
That's gonna be that's gonna be a phenomenalepisode someday when I get to it, if I get to
it.
And I was gonna talk about buying lotterytickets versus buying books.
You know, the the people at Holiday World buylottery tickets.
The people at resorts, high end five starresorts, I'm talking $2,000 a night, stay at
the Rosewood in California, shout out toRosewood, California, $2,000 a night for for

(43:14):
the cheapest room.
People that go to Holiday World buy lotterytickets.
People that go to the Rosewood buy books.
Evenings in a bar, like a lot of the peoplethat go to Holiday World, 05:00 rolls around,
06:00, 07:00.
They're either buying Mountain Dew or they'rebuying Bud Light or Bush Light or hams.

(43:38):
The people at a resort, they're going to thegym.
They're going to a class.
They're going to a networking event.
They're sitting poolside working on theirbusiness.
I'm not gonna rant on that one.
That was a whole episode.
Can't wait to do that one.
I wanted to talk shout out Bud Light for asecond.
I wanted to talk about the absolute fall andrise of Bud Light.

(44:02):
Now I don't know if Bud Light has, like, fullyrecovered its market share.
My guess is no.
But UFC accepted Bud Light sponsorship afterthe whole, you know, diabolical situation they
got into with their marketing.
And and I think the influencer's name was Dylansomething.
And, you know, obviously Bud Light forgot whotheir customer base was.

(44:27):
It's the people that go to Holiday World, bythe way, who, no offense, aren't into girls
that become guys that are named Dylan, or maybeit was a guy that became girl.
I forget.
You know, no judgment there.
But Bud Light forgot their customer base.
I was gonna talk about that.
I was gonna try to thread that needle and bepolitically correct and respectful.

(44:47):
I respect all humans no matter what you believein.
But it was wild to see UFC accept Bud Lightsponsorship.
And it's wild for Bud Light to make a 180degree turn and, you know, start promoting guys
like Shane Gillis and Post Malone and PeytonManning and Morgan Wallen and all these guys in

(45:10):
their commercials.
It was a complete one eighty.
And I think they have managed to land the planeactually pretty well.
I mean, I see people drinking Bud Light nowthat swore they would never drink it again.
So so that was one.
I then had another episode I was gonna record.
I was on cloud nine.
It was UFC night.
I was alone in my basement.

(45:31):
I paid the $80 pay per view, which thankgoodness we never have to do that again.
Shout out to UFC's new, massive deal they juststruck with Paramount.
I paid the $80 to watch dudes throw hands ateach other.
They can't even read and write, most of them.
No offense.
Some of them can.
I made a million bets, bet tons of money.

(45:54):
At the end of the night, after all was said anddone, I lost my seven leg parlay to a decision,
a Dustin Poirier loss.
He should have won.
I lost in a decision.
The final leg of my parlay, it would have madea gajillion dollars.
I ended up losing $50 on the night.
So I had a diabolical episode lined up for thatone.

(46:17):
Man, I have so many more.
Your margin is my opportunity.
Getting back up, that's the only backup planyou need.
Bailey Zimmerman, shout out to BaileyZimmerman.
Failure to set clear expectations.
Huge, huge failure I've made.
Hurry kills presence.
Worry kills peace.
Doubt kills faith.
Ego kills love.

(46:39):
Now read all that backwards.
I'll read it backwards for you because sinceit's it's not in words.
Hurry kills presence.
Worry kills peace.
Doubt kills faith, and ego kills love.
If I read it backwards, it says love kills ego,faith kills doubt, peace kills worry, and

(47:01):
presence kills hurry.
That was gonna be a that was gonna be a monsterepisode.
Another one here is don't hire for personality,hire for technical proficiency.
Man, earn your dopamine, never waste a crisis,how long is your dash I've got hundreds of
episodes here, hundreds of topics that I gottaconvert to episodes.

(47:24):
But I wanted to do all that.
I to leave you guys with that to give you alittle bit of hope.
I'm not gonna walk away forever.
I will revive it at some point.
Don't ask me when because I don't know.
It's not gonna be next week.
It might not be next month.
I don't know if it's next year.
I have no idea.

(47:44):
I try to follow what my gut's telling me to do.
And right now my gut's telling me to go spendsome time on some other things.
So I appreciate more than you know you guyslistening.
I really do.
If you've ever shared episodes with anyone, ifyou've ever left a review, we we surpassed a
100 review.
I think we're up to a 112, 115 reviews.

(48:07):
If you've ever posted about the podcast onLinkedIn or on Instagram, I appreciate it.
I would love to figure out ways in my offseason here when we do if and when we do
return, how do we continue to grow the audienceto the right kind of people?
The people that would get value out of this,the people that want to talk about leadership

(48:31):
development and cash flow and and then wannahear fun episodes like how Bud Light failed and
rose from the ashes.
You know, I try to mix as much fun in as I can.
But but I wanna I wanna strategize in my offseason how to make this podcast a real thing
beyond what it is.
The I wanted to do the video thing.
It just doesn't it didn't work out.

(48:52):
It didn't work out for my lifestyle, my timing.
I don't have time to click buttons on a cameraand then download an SD card.
I just didn't have it wasn't gonna work.
It was not scalable.
It was not sustainable.
So I am I'm gonna give some more thought to howwe continue to level up the podcast in future
seasons when it when it returns.

(49:12):
But I I just wanna say thank you to everybodythat's listened.
I I appreciate it more than you know.
If you've shared it, I appreciate it.
And if you haven't shared it, now's the perfecttime.
Now's the perfect time to go back and listen tosome episodes.
You don't have to turn it off just because I'mgonna push pause for a while.
Share share it.

(49:33):
See what you missed in some prior episodes,especially all the way back into season one.
It feels like a lifetime ago, but I've onlybeen doing it for six months.
So, you know, imagine what another six monthsor a year or two years this looks like.
You know?
You guys help me grow the audience.
I don't grow the audience.
There's nothing I do.

(49:53):
Right?
I share a few things on LinkedIn and and andInstagram, but you guys are the ones that
actually grow the audience.
And you do that by sharing it with your crews,sharing it with your coworkers, sharing it with
your family, forcing your wife to listen to it.
Maybe she'll get to understand some of thethings that go on in our crazy brains and the
businesses that we're in.

(50:14):
But you guys sharing it is what grows theaudience and, and helps me maximize my impact
that I can make.
And at the end of the day, I told Jeffyesterday, we were, we were talking about
knowing when to walk away and closing chaptersand and all that.
And I said, at the end of the day, all I'mtrying to do because I'm not romantic about any

(50:35):
one chapter.
I'm not romantic about any one business.
All I'm trying to do is maximize my impact withthe time I've got.
And it's what I'm focused on, to be honest withyou.
It's really you know, I wanna be scalable, andyou guys help me become scalable the more you
share the podcast.
And so, you know, my hope is through mybusinesses, through my networking, through just

(51:00):
events that I go to, through crazy things likethis podcast or social media, my hope is that I
can, you know, continue to increase my impacton the industries that I love.
I love mining, but I also love construction.
I love heavy civil.
I love seeing things, watching things, andcontributing to things getting built.

(51:24):
I always said when I entered the constructionindustry, I always said, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
a builder.
I'm gonna build vertical structures, whetherthose are homes or buildings, you know, or
power plants or whatever, I have a huge passionfor that.
And I have a huge passion for the people thatdo that every day.
So my focus is now on how I can maximize myimpact and where do I need to spend my time

(51:51):
every single day to continue to grow my impact.
And so that's what I'm gonna go that's what I'mgo spend some time on thinking through,
strategizing on, and and focusing on.
So thank you.
This is a final send off for season two of thePurdue and Podcast.
I man, I appreciate it.

(52:12):
I, I pray that you're killing it.
I pray that you continue to kill it.
If we if we don't talk for a while, if youdon't hear my voice for a while, I pray that
whatever chapter you're going through is a goodone.
Pray that you you know when to close thechapter.
And and I pray if you are closing a chapterlike me, hope hopefully, the next chapter is

(52:32):
even better.
But if it's not any better, it'll be a lesson.
And and you get to learn through the lessons,which is, you know, half the battle, in some
cases, even more than half the battle.
So thanks for tuning in.
Pray you're killing it.
I pray you're getting your per diem, and wewill do it again someday.

(52:56):
Thanks.
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