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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you all for
showing up today for our healers
healing video call that we'redoing today, that we're
recording for people who won'tbe able to watch it live.
But thank you so much, doctorsScott Stoll and Columbus, to
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come into our call.
We thank you so much for yourtime and, importantly, thank you
for the work that you are doingin building health, equity and
lifestyle medicine, and so wejust want to thank you and
welcome you to this call.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thank you for having
us.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Thank you, it's
wonderful looking with you all.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Right, do you have a?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
short, so we will.
Our reason for the call is toreally learn more about what you
all have in store with thehealth conference and to learn
how this fits in really morebroadly into the work going on
over at Plantation.
So first, dr Batiste, can youtell us a little bit about the
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health conference and how youbecame involved with the
Plantation project?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, so you know, in
terms of being involved with
the Plantation project, I'lltell you, I attended one of the
sessions a while back and and Ialways kind of describe my
upfront as my avatar and then myreal self is a little bit more
kind of quiet and reserved, butfor whatever reason, I was just
I went out and I had a feelingabout Scott and went up and
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spoke to him and he was soembracing and we connected in
that moment.
At the first conference that Imet, he invited me to Chicago,
had Kim Williams and Joe Connand some others that were there,
and we started connecting a bitmore and then the relationships
started to evolve as we hadkindred spirits and a lot of
areas from spirituality all theway over into, obviously, the
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passion for plant based and andthings, and so what's so unique
is that obviously I have astrong passion for the community
of those at greatest risk, andthat happens to be many of the
African American black and browncommunities that are there.
And so it so happened we wereaway and we're at conference and
, coincidentally, I mentionedthat to Scott, he mentioned to
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me that we were on the same pagein terms of wanting to do
something that really shift the,the seismic change in the
trajectory of the way in whichwhich we look at health
disparities and the role oflifestyle, and we knew it was
something that that was bebigger than both of us, that we
both had this same passion atthe same moment in time and we
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began the process of reallycollaborating at that point and
that was really the birthplacefor the health conference
conference.
They help equity and lifestyleproject is where we kind of
formed with things there.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Amazing.
Thank you so much for sharingthat Great.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Great Dr Stoll.
Let me know how does the helpconference intersect with the
mission and vision of the plantnutrition project?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, that's a great
question.
Thank you, david.
The mission and vision of Plantnutrition project has always
been to equip and power, inspireand educate health care
providers around the world withthe indisputable science of
nutrition to prevent, suspendand reverse disease.
And I look at the columnistjust said so eloquently at the
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populations that are at greatestrisk.
You know those zip codes wherezip code is the predominant
social determinant of health,nutrition is deplorable.
Both from you know, not onlyjust access but affordability.
There's, there's so manydeficits that need to get at.
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The thing we've done well atthe plant nutrition project is
conference that allow us topeople to get there.
I still there.
I saw the circles.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, you may be
freezing a little bit Scott.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, looks like he
froze.
Maybe he needs to go off-camerato include this.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah, we can maybe
move on to the next question.
We can have him maybe pick upwhen he gets back.
Excuse me Well, Dr Batisse, wewere very curious to hear about
your work with the slave foodproject and healthy heart nation
and very well-known.
Here you come, I'm back.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'll just pick up
real quick and finish that
thought that one of the thingsthat we've done so well at
Plantation Project with ourevents is not just a host and
event, but we really see eventsas an opportunity to bring
people together, to createcommunity, at connection and in
those powerful development ofrelationships begin.
You know, imagining, developing, creating solutions.
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And so the health conference ismore than just an event to
communicate information.
You know, we're really tryingto develop a community to come
together and solve problems andleave the events with
connections, with resources,with people to go back into the
communities and start creatingsolutions right away.
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Now, information doesn't change, but empowered people that are
connected in a community canbegin affecting change, and so
that's what we really envision.
It's far more than just, youknow, an event for education or
CME.
This is really a veryintentional development of
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community to begin inspiringpeople to solve solutions
together, and that's what we'veseen at Plantation Project.
You know, out of our event.
We created the event in a veryspecific way so that people
would eat three meals a daytogether, they would stay in the
same room together and it wouldcultivate relationships.
And we wanted to do the samething with the health conference
, and so we really envisionedthat, coming out of this, there
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are going to be very uniqueopportunities for solutions.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
That sounds so robust
in that.
I love that there's such anemphasis on that practical,
actionable dimension.
We're not just meeting for thesake of meeting, but really
meeting for the purposes, inpart to problem solving,
workshop together and solutions.
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's empowered
people to lead the conference
empowered.
I think that is really key.
You can leave the conferenceeducated.
But you know people sayknowledge is power and knowledge
is indeed some power.
But to have those connectionsand have the resources and have
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the, it really makes a bigdifference when you have that
thought process at the beginningof the conference that only
people empowered, not justeducated.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, so true.
And speaking of empowerment, Iknow, dr Batie, so much of the
work that you do under theauspices of Slave Food Project
and Healthy Heart Nation have alot of shared vision with the
health conference.
So I'm curious to know howthose projects really inform,
how you all approach forming theconference and your approach to
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lifestyle medicine, kind of ingeneral.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah and I'll take a
step back that my approach to
lifestyle medicine probablystems from my work as an
interventional cardiologist.
So you know our job as aninterventional cardiologist is
to take care of the most acuteand the sickest patients, right,
and they're in the throes of amassive heart attack in those
moments.
That's really the goal, thosewho are at greatest risk, and it
doesn't mean that we ignoreeveryone else.
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We still implore all the othertraditional fashions of the
family and of the prevention atcomponents that are there, and
so the approach to lifestyle isvery similar.
Is that we have?
I feel as if I need to targetthose communities that are at
greatest risk, and that wasreally the birthplace of Slave
Food Project.
Was really that oftentimeswe're so enslaved to our
communities, to our birthplace,that we wear these shackles that
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are there, based on ourenvironment that's riddled with
stress, it's riddled with foodinsecurities that are there, and
people feel as if they canescape that, and so letting them
know that, yes, there is abetter way, that, yes, you can
alleviate this in part, notcompletely, through nutritional
resiliency.
Now, healthy hard nation wasthe birthplace out of this, from
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a solution standpoint,understanding that health can
only truly be achieved throughcollective effort of the
community.
That means through business,that means places of education,
places of faith, that meanspolitical determinants to as
well, that collectively, we needeveryone on board to really
shift and raise the lowest orthe least of us.
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And so this is really thepremise behind it.
The health conference is notjust solely to inform right,
it's not solely to educate, it'snot just to empower, but it's
to enact change.
That's really the true goal ofthe health conference is to
enact change.
And so, as Scott mentioned interms of the overall format,
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that is our goal.
Yes, we want to educate, yes,we want to empower, but we want
there to be a change, we wantthere to be action.
I oftentimes will say that loveis not a noun, love is an
action word.
It requires action, requiresmovement.
That's there and that's whatthis conference is about.
It's about triggering aninspiring movement on a
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continual basis and sayingpractical goals as we come
together as a community.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, I for one
cannot wait Definitely, and
David and I have been talkingabout how we can really mobilize
the Hill group to show up inmass, because your mission is so
important, now more than ever.
So thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, yeah, and if I
can just share, like a project
that I started, that's anexample of what I hope will come
out of the health conference.
You know, I had a good friend ofmine from Jamaica who had
severe hypertension heartdisease and I helped him reverse
his conditions and he was soexcited he said we have to, you
know, reach the poor communitiesof Jamaica.
So what we decided to do was towork through the churches and
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he was a part of a 40 churchgroup in Jamaica and we started
by helping them buy some land.
They bought an acre next to thechurch and working with Rodale
to help them farm the land, andthen we're going to use the
produce to help feed the peopleand feed the community and then,
through that process andthrough some of the resources,
that Plantation Project, begineducating the community.
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And so you know, it's my hopethat you know, projects like
that will be spawned from thehealth conference where we can
really begin, like Columbus said, love and action, taking care
of the least of those andhelping elevate them, especially
in their health, theirspiritual life and their
relationships and emotions.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Love, that, love that
, love that.
That's so, um.
So we, how can we in, uh, healthe health equity by lifestyle
medicine, you know, through ACLM?
How can we, in terms of leadersand our members, as well, as
well as those who are watchingor listening, how can we
increase the visibility of theconference?
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How can we, you know furtherthe work that's taking place of
the conference?
What do you think that we coulddo to help?
To help help, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think first I'll
jump in.
You know marketing is probablyfirst and foremost, and you know
marketing to especially.
You know we certainly needpeople to be there to have a
successful conference, but wereally want like-minded
individuals in those seats thatare interested in taking the
information away and workingwith people and communities to
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begin creating change where theylive, in their neighborhoods,
and so you know it's and reallyencouraging those types of
people to sign up.
You know, sometimes we all saywe're busy and we don't want to
attend a conference, we don'thave time to add something else.
But there are certain peoplethat all of us know that we
sometimes need to grab by thecollar and say you really need
to be there.
So if you know those kinds ofpeople, you know that would that
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need to be there and need to bea part of this, you know
helping them to get into thoseseats would be great.
We do have some scholarshipsavailable.
We've had people donatescholarships.
So if you know individuals thatshould be there but can't
afford that, we can also helpthem get there.
But yeah, broad marketing wouldbe fantastic.
Columbus, how about you?
What?
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
yeah, no, I mean,
this just popped into my head,
you know, I saw the questionfrom before, but it's just
popped in, which is just oneeveryone, if you can that, to
come and bring someone with you.
You know, I mean if everyone cancommit to coming, just being
present, because there's so muchthat's said by like your
presence and and here's the,here's the key, right when you
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look at movie premiere, moviepremiere is only gonna be
successful based on that openingnight, that opening weekend,
because it expresses theimportance of that movie.
And so if our community does notcome out in full force and
those who are supporting of thisinitiative that this is an
important venture, then it can'tbe successful.
And so this is a uniqueconference and unique
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opportunity.
The other thing I would say isthat I would love to get each
and every heel member to do abrief promo on why the help
conference is important andwhether and encouraging folks,
and we can do a quick taping of30 seconds and let's push it out
there.
Let's flood tick-tock, let'sflood every zone that's there,
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to the medical communities, theNMA, to association black
cardiologists, to any particularassociation, to all of them,
amma, and let's flood the thesocial media gates and let
people know that this isimportant.
It's a place to be and that'swhat I would encourage is
countless.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Let's all get on
board and the last thing I'm
thinking of is we can allbrainstorm on actionable ideas,
ways that we can begin, you know, seeding change after the
conference, because I reallywant to carry momentum out of
the conference into communitiesand into the next year.
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So I don't want it to just bean event that ends, I want it to
be something that reallycarries momentum forward.
So if we can think about ideasto do how to do that and how to
effectively keep peoplemotivated and in community to
affect change, that would begreat awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I have a question for
each of you.
What else that we haven't yettouched on that may have come up
for you in this conversationthat leads with a burning desire
to tell other people about that, may be on the fence about
coming, or cause most people whoare watching this are probably
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already at least fairly openminded to come.
But what might get people offthe fence to actually come?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean.
The thing that pops into myhead, David, is it's a wonderful
quote that says relationshipsare healing, hiding in plain
sight that you know the realhealing, the real power of an
event like this, is thecommunity and the connection
with people.
You know the information thatwe're going to share.
You could search for it andfind it, but the real power of
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affecting change, the real powerof inspiring love and action,
is to be there with other peopleand to meet like minded people
that have the same passion andbegin working together to care
for others.
I think that's really the powerof this and why it's necessary
that we all attend and share ameal together and share our
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hearts and leave inspired andconnected.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Absolutely.
I'll just add just a little bitmore detail about the structure
of the conference.
That is unique because Scottsaid the important point there's
so much continuing medicaleducation now that you can get
online, you know, simply log inup to date.
Many of us use that.
It gives you CMEs, so CME isnot necessarily a driver for it
but, like Scott mentioned, it'smore of the relationships and so
our structure is not really apassive conference where you're
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just sitting and listening.
It's more of an interactive.
The lectures are actually goingto be shorter, they're going to
be around the 20 to 30 minuteand the robustness is going to
be in the panel discussion ofthe experts that are there, the
45 minutes to have an engagementwith everyone in the audience,
and that's really where thepower is, hopefully having take
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home points out of it.
So, day one, we're looking atthe state of health and going
from really from the cradle tothe grave, going from maternal
infant mortality, pediatrics tocardiovascular diabetes and
looking at mental health andAlzheimer's right.
Then, day two, we're reallybringing in what's the role of
each area in the communities.
How can we forge change, like?
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Scott brought up a wonderfulexample of a church that
embracing change and using landin order to help develop and
embrace the community to havethem come in.
We know, for many people offaith, churches are dying across
the world.
They're aging out in terms ofthings, and so how can they be
relevant to the needs of thecommunity?
And one of the areas is in theform of health.
How can businesses be it?
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What's the role ofcommunity-based organizations
collaborating with healthcareorganizations to really drive
change in the community right?
And so, as we start to get thisand hopefully it triggers ideas
amongst individuals, and thenthe grand scheme, I'll tell you
something that was wonderfulthat someone mentioned as I was
discussing with them.
We talked about ideas and Scottreally implored everyone to
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begin to brainstorm ideas theycan bring to the table, which is
so important.
One idea was for someonebrought to me as hey, we should
try maybe I can help out withtrying to develop a database
that we begin to form thisinside of colleges and we
develop like a framing hamscoring in the African-American
community.
That maybe dovetails with someof the other work that's
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happening out of Morehouse andother areas there, out of Mahary
as well, and you begin to buildon how we can really
restructure change and how therole of lifestyle can really
transform our communities thatare there, because the actions
that we give towards onecommunity are the same exact
actions that can help saveanother community as well.
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So that's what I would mention.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Thank you for adding
that contour.
It's really helpful just to geta better sense in terms of what
the day in the flow would belike and how folks are going to
engage when they're there.
One question, if you could justclarify your target audience, I
know you all mentioned beforeheavily the medical associations
, clinicians.
How are you all looking atengaging other members of the
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community who are partners inthis sort of long lasting change
, such as the non-profits orother ancillary healthcare team
members?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I'll jump in
first.
So I think that one, we'redefinitely targeting the
healthcare community, so that'sdoctors, nurses, nurse
practitioners, dietitians,everyone that delivers care, but
it's not isolated.
That's our primary target toengage them.
But, as you so, so astutelymentioned, we want the people
who are actually doing the footsoldiers who are out there doing
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the work, because theinformation is not so high that
listen when david talks and he'sgiving breaking down stuff on
peds.
I'm not a pediatrician for youand david you know.
So I mean I have to try andsomehow understand what you're
talking about and saying from,from faciary, with with scott,
and so when I look at that,we're hopeful that we can convey
information, that anyone canunderstand it and that we can
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make the the informationrelevant.
What's the point of deliveringinformation if you can't make it
relevant to the people outthere in the audience listening?
So it is for everyone.
But, yes, so it is an eclecticmix, but, yes, the primary
target is our health careprofessionals.
But I have at, we have, we haveactually begun the process of
trying to reach out to thecommunity as well in trying to
bring all, all in thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Thank you um so uh uh
to be respectful of um the, the
valuable time that you guyshave shared with us.
We appreciate uh so much uh youguys coming on and discussing
with us and sharing with us, andI love you know, really, the
merger of, of how we're doingthings together.
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Uh.
This is one example right justof how we've taken you got
healthy heart nation, you gotpediatrician project, you got uh
healed aclm.
Uh all working together uh toto make this conference happen
and and make this uh movementhappen.
Um and thank you, scott, forallowing me to be able to um to
be a presenter um for theconference as well and uh
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looking forward to what we canall create together and um I
just again, I know that thisit's been hard to get our
schedules together, but thankyou so much for being flexible,
uh for taking the time out to dothis interview on on camera and
uh we look forward to to meetup with you guys in huntsville
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uh in march and having aphenomenal conference and, most
importantly, taking that messageof uh the power of health
equity, of the power oflivestock medicine, uh into the
health equity world and and geta great merger um between the
health equity communities andthe uh livestock communities.
Thank you so much thank you,thank you all thank
Speaker 3 (22:03):
you, thank you.