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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Welcome to the PerfectlyPreserved Podcast.
I'm your host Jenny Gomes.
And I'm Anna Cash.
Here we come together to bringyou a podcast all about
preserving food safely, easily,and dare I say, perfectly.
At home.
We are master food preserversmoms wives, and we love talking
about canning.
ready to can like a masterpreserver.

(00:21):
Let's get into today's episode.

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Welcome back to The Perfectly Preserved
podcast.
I'm Anna here with my co-host,Jenny.
We're so excited to be with youtoday because we have a very
special episode all about herbsin the garden and why you should
really be growing herbs, why youshould be dehydrating or
freezing.
But first of all, thank you somuch for those of you that have.

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Downloaded the podcast who aresharing it online.
We absolutely love that andappreciate it.
If you have not yet left us arating and review, please do
that at the purple icon whereveryou listen to your podcast
episodes.
We love speaking.
If you are interested in havingJenny and I come to speak at
your event, please let us know.

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We are.
Absolutely thrilled to talkabout any type of preservation
in any settings, so just keepthat in mind when you are in
those settings.
Alright, Jenny, why don't youstart us off?
I am excited for this episode.
This is gonna be so great.

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Okay, so before we hit record, we were
talking about herbs and

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so before we could record, we.

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easy Are to preserve

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and

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useful they

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how easy they're to preserve
Preservation.

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out there may not know that Anna is

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Those of you out there may not know that
Anna is also a master gardener.

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I was raised with

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I'm a novice gardener.
I was raised with a familygarden, but

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big garden myself,

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I've never had

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learning from Anna.

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a very big garden myself, so I'm learning
and learning from Anna.

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use

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Anna that the way that I use herbs

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At least

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on the regular as.

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use herbs in my baking, which seems
so strange.
Or

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herbs in my thinking, which seems so
strange, or Anna said she thatwas a little bit unusual maybe.
And I guess you guys

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but,

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let us know this is how you use herbs
or not.
But I'm a big fan of my breadmachine.
I love.

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so helpful in helping me

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I think they're so helpful in helping me
make more homemade bake things,

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once a week I

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very often, probably once a week

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in the bread

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I will use all,

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let it

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the ingredients,

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I'll go out

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I'll

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with one pair of

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let it get started mixing all, go out with
one pair,

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And like

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Rosemary,

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are going crazy, so

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and

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walk back in, give them a rinse, and
then just stand over the

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Just

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machine

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walk back in, give them a rinse, and then
just stand over the breadmachine while it's mixing

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of

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and just snip off

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herb,

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little itty bitty snips

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then

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of those herbs

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into

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whatever, herbs, whatever it was.
I just grabbed right that

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so

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into the dough and it just makes the
bread dough

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I end up

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so flavorful.

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making

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It makes it so that whatever I end up
putting on it.

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pizzas,

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I'm making like aone or like I'll make
pizza like two pieces for myfamily.
Or

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I did this a lot

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sometimes I do bread and twist.

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we were gonna

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If we're going, I did this a lot during
like football, we watch,

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just, it would just be the

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make,

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basically.

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And then.

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makes it so flavorful.
It just really makes it

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so flavorful.
It just really makes it

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super easy.

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a lot better and

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I don't know if everyone

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super easy.

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putting their Sauce, like

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I dunno if everyone else has just put their
herbs in the, and I have neverdone that.
I don't know.
I guess when I was doingsourdough I would do what's
called inclusions and I wouldadd things like nuts or seeds or
whatever.
And sometimes I would dorosemary, but like I never think
about putting it in my pizzadough.
And that's so smart, especiallyfresh herbs because it imparts

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so much great flavor.

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I honestly was surprised.
I was like, dang, that made thata lot better.
And it's better than, or more

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A lot better than, or more flavorful
than

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It's more

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if I,

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than.

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before they.

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it's good in the sauce.
The sauce is good, but the sauce

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Good in the sauce.
The sauce is good,

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The

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but the sauce is not all throughout.
The tomato sauce is just on thesurface.
Yeah.
So I feel like in terms of justmaking the whole

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the

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of the bread

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is very

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better, the herb inclusion is very good.

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Just something I think

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so

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could add to their

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just something I think that our
listeners could add to theirlist of things.
To maybe test out or try out.

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I Like you could

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do you wanna start by talking about
growing herbs?
I just feel like we could add alot of

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how easy herbs can

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wisdom to our listeners for

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in

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just how easy herbs can be in a pot.
They can be in

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the very first

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the little

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grow.

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in your garden.
They can be the very first thingyou ever Sure.
And I do have to make adisclaimer that I, even though I
did do the Master Gardenercourse, I am still learning
every single year how to growbetter.
And one of the things that.
I love growing.
As far as herbs go are the onesthat are perennials.

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That means they come back yearafter year.
You don't really have to babysitthem.
They're pretty unfussy and I'lltalk about some of my favorite
varieties, but there, there is adifference in herbs between
they're growing conditions whatthey like.
That could be.
Lavender, loving thatMediterranean hot, dry summer

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versus maybe some of your tendercrops like basil.
Basil for me is notoriouslyfinicky.
I live here in the IntermountainWest, which means it's a high
desert.
And if I am not watering mybasal quite a bit, it turns dry
and not as tender.
So really look at the back ofthat tag when you're purchasing

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herbs and figure out what thegrowing conditions are needed
for herbs.
Most herbs do drained soilthough, so keep that in mind.
Don't plant them in a clay richsoil.
I actually recommend peopleeither have garden boxes or,
grow bags or pots for theirherbs just because the drainage

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is so good in a pot.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (06:12):
Yeah it's

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That's some of the growing conditions.
Yeah.
What do you like to grow?
Jenny?
Jenny is in Northern California.

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So it's, think of it more

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so it's, think of it more

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not California, like the beach, but
California more like

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not California, like the beach, but
California more like

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to eastern

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Eastern or Eastern Oregon climate.
But

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not by a lot.

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so I probably need a little bit more
rain than Canada, but not.

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bed that I have, and the bed is
shallow, it's, it is, I beteight inches deep, not deep at
all.
I have

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I at eight inches deep.
Not deep at all.
I have

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chives.
They're next door to each

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loving chives.
They're next door to each otherand with

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all are doing

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gangbusters gr together

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potting

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because they love that

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That's an

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good draining potty.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (07:00):
but the soil I have here.
I'm in mining country, so

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soil I have here.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (07:05):
are

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I'm in mining country, so a lot of our
soils are really poor

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a good way to

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after the dredging process has gone
through and there's not a goodway to remedy that.

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beds are go-to

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Oh, interesting.

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Yeah, it's a

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are for my area.
Yeah.
It's a bummer.

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even Is pretty small, they

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it's just super successful even though
the.

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Wasn't sure how much deer pressure I
would have with

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Wasn't sure how much deer pressure I
would have with no fence.

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doing

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We do have a new dog, a young dog who's

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planted

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doing her job in terms of keeping the
away, but

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that I thought the deer

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I planted the Chis in among the other
things I thought the deer wouldlike.

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And I actually have some

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So as to.
De

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and among all

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and I actually have some strawberries
just

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and that's

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great in and among all that, which
doesn't really go thematicallyand that's

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together and I also

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but

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some pretty

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all those are doing great together.
And I also planted a pretty,very pretty

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It

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sage.

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nice,

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Oh, nice.
It looks very nice.
Smells nice.

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actually.

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Right next to my chicken run actually.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (07:59):
is it A whole lot of pests?

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Is it really gonna turn, deter.
Pet, maybe not, but it'scertainly not gonna hurt
Notoriously don't like

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those

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those,

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they They supposedly

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many herbs and those specifics, they don't,
basically

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successful for

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don't.
Yeah.
So far that has just been supersuccessful.

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herbs.
I feel like when we talk

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Tell us more about the tender herbs.
I feel like when we talk abouttender herbs, I think of in
every grocery store in Americaright now, you can buy a little,
little tiny pot with a super

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those are

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tall base lemon.
Yes.

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It's like you're

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Are Destin,

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and you're gonna snip up those
leaves and then you're never

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it's like you're gonna go home and you're
gonna snip off those leaves Iknow.
The, not only are the leavesperfect for photosynthesis, but
once you start snipping off aton of those, and unless they're
in like direct sun and they'regetting decent nutrient from the
soil, they.
They just don't stand a chance.
But I have seen people re-potthose grocery store basil plants

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and in new potting soil they canget pretty happy.
And as long as you're not toobrutal.
I with your pruning, they canlast for a long time and they
can even branch off as you startcutting away at it.
But I would recommend that youcut it right.
Above like a set of leaf nodes.
Don't cut when there's justnothing left on that stem

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because it won't grow back.
It does need some leaves forsome photosynthesis if you plan
on keeping it in your kitchenand growing it for a while.

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Basal

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needs.

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water than the more Mediterranean the
rosemary, the time.
The chives, those

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The rosemary, the

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water.

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Rose,

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are

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the chime, those need a lot less water.
They're very happy when you dowater them, but they're pretty

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mint

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Whereas basil

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (09:41):
I've

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is like mint levels of water.

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much water, twice as

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Yeah.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (09:45):
It's a little bit harder.

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I am growing some new to me herbs
this year, including.
Lemon Verina, which I cannotrecommend enough for your peach
jam.
Throw some lemon verina choppedleaves in there and you will
die.
It tastes so good.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (10:03):
Ah.

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And then I'm also growing some Fenig
Greek, some lemon basil,obviously regular basil.
I started from seed and some.
Lavender.
So those are the new herbs thatI'm growing this year and I'm
interested to see how it will do

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (10:22):
That all sounds so amazing.
I

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that all sounds so amazing.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (10:25):
Feel like dill is fun.
I

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grow,

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are always so

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I feel

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by dill.
'cause it's

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are

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looking and

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by, because

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (10:31):
the seeds are fun and it just is a
magical looking plant.
When they were, they're a littlebit older now, they're

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Yeah.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-20 (10:38):
Preteen.
My kids are teens and earlyteens and preteen.
But when

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My kids are

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really loved

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early teens.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (10:43):
and those

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But when they were little, they really
loved plants and

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (10:46):
easily

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are easy.

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useful in

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like they grew very easily and

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (10:50):
of

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (10:50):
super beautiful.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (10:51):
jar of pickles or dly

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a big head of

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (10:54):
so

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in your jar pickles or beans.
Oh, it's gorgeous.
So much Wow, so much flavor.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (10:59):
Even if you it, you could just snip
it

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Even if you never cooked with it

jenny-gomes_1_05-29 (11:02):
structural,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:03):
snippet and put it your bouquet, it's
just very structural, pretty.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think Dill is one of thosemagical plants that has almost
like a feather like qualitywhere it blows in the breeze
It's.
Fennel also has that.
Yeah, I love those.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (11:22):
but it has that same kind of

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:24):
I've Yeah.
It's super similar.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (11:26):
oh, fun.
hopefully you've been convincedthat growing herbs

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:31):
before you've been,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (11:32):
'em in pots, you

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:33):
the growing herbs is easy to do them
in pot.
You can do them in,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2 (11:36):
doorstep, wherever

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:37):
beds.
You can grow em right in

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (11:38):
just you

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:39):
wherever you find a little spot.
Just to be sure that you

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (11:42):
and how

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look at

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (11:43):
need.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:44):
good drainage and then how much water
and how much sun they need.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (11:47):
Well suited for a spot that you have,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:48):
but you could find an her that's
probably well

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (11:50):
thing.

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spot

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (11:51):
think

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that you have, and you can even do

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (11:52):
the

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just be aware that

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (11:54):
with other herbs and

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (11:55):
I feel like the, like basil gets lumped
in with other herbs and it just,it like a much wetter situation.
It's a little bit

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (12:02):
other ones.
I feel

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:03):
not finicky, a little trickier.
Some Of the other

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (12:05):
have to work

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:06):
Rosemary is,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (12:06):
plant.
They are very

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You

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (12:08):
feel like.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:08):
have to work hard to sell a rosemary.
They are very hardy, I feellike.
Bases

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (12:12):
but

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:13):
that way.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (12:13):
beyond Them, let's talk about how to
preserve them because

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:16):
beyond planting them, let's talk about
how to preserve them becausethey could be rock stars

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (12:21):
a

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:22):
in your kitchen and so much more.
Tell us why a person

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (12:25):
Anna.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (12:26):
go.
There's one really main reasonfor me, and that is that the
grocery store herbs that you aregetting are probably, they can
be up to four years old.
And the longer that a dried herbsits, the loss in aromatic smell
and flavor happens.
And so for me, drying herbs athome allows me to have.

(12:48):
Very fresh tasting herbs.
And for me, that's just key.
If you love food you wanna getit when it's either at peak
harvest or in the best way ofpreserving.
There's a few different ways wecan preserve herbs.
Jenny, what is your favorite wayI think that,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (13:07):
ways freezing I feel like

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (13:10):
there's so many ways.
Freezing I feel like is just,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (13:13):
to can everything

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (13:14):
since we're in the crowd of canning,
everybody wants to caneverything.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (13:17):
might be If

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and I think that

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (13:19):
because

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might be the pointing, if that's

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (13:21):
a

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (13:21):
your philosophy because

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (13:23):
is such a

_1_05-29-2025_10261 (13:23):
dehydrating is such a.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (13:25):
some herbs are best frozen, and

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Somes

jenny-gomes_1_05-2 (13:28):
specifically

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are best

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:30):
and

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frozen, and those

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:31):
you

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specifically would be basal and

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:33):
for

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d.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (13:34):
seconds before

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blanch them in boiling water for 45
seconds.
The order padding them dry andthen

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:40):
mix

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (13:40):
freezing them.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (13:41):
or

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (13:41):
You also can mix them with oil or butter
or other condiments like apesto.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (13:46):
of carrot

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I

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:47):
and

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made pesto.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (13:49):
cal.
This is probably the mostCalifornia thing I've ever said.
Carrot tops, pumpkin seeds,

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Pumpkin seed,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:57):
and basil, the

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good farm.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (13:59):
And that jar, I made several

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:02):
pesto.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (14:02):
jars of

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:03):
that jar.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (14:04):
Fridge, and it lasted.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:06):
colors of it, and kept it in the back of
my fridge and it left.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (14:09):
so

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it took me two years

jenny-gomes_1_05-29- (14:11):
flavorful,

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eat, but it was Wow.
So good,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (14:13):
if you just keep it good and

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:14):
so flavorful, so delicious.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (14:16):
when

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:16):
If you just keep it cold

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (14:17):
it's gonna

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:18):
and use a clean UIL when you spoon outta
it.
A very long time and it was, ittaste

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (14:22):
didn't

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:23):
so fresh, that was what was,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (14:25):
from the

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:25):
that it didn't taste

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (14:26):
12th.

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any different from the first month
to the 12th.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (14:30):
good to know

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Very good.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (14:31):
you

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:32):
So it's good to know which herbs you
want and which you want.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (14:36):
about the dehydrated ana.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (14:37):
All right.
The dehydrator is one of myfavorite tools.
I actually am drying some herbsright now.
I have lage we didn't reallytalk about this yet, but Lage is
an amazing perennial herb that afriend gave me.
A start from probably, ooh, Iwanna say six years ago.
And each year I watch it come upand I just don't really do

(15:02):
anything with it.
And I thought, you know what?
This is ridiculous.
So I decided to cut some of thestems, and it's very similar
looking to celery and parsley,so it almost looks like a cross
between the two.
And the flavor is very similarto a spicy celery.

(15:24):
Parsley.
And I don't mean spicy like hot,spicy like arugula is spicy

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (15:29):
Yeah.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (15:30):
and it's just.
Fantastic.
So I'm drying it.
I'm going to chop it a littlebit in my food processor and
then you can add it to soups andstews.
It's very popular in England,Eastern Europe.
I was looking at recipes andthere were some from Romania and
Bulgaria and Germany.

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And the great thing about Lovetis that I have never watered
that plant, and it's alreadythree feet tall.
Never, I've never watered thatthing.
And we get really hot summersdry

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2 (16:06):
anything.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:07):
black.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:07):
like a trusty barn.
Cat doesn't need you foranything.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:10):
Exactly.
And it's probably thanks forpruning me.
That's really great.
Yeah, I'm dehydrating that rightnow.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-20 (16:17):
Amazing.
I've never even, I've never eventhought of growing that.
That's

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:20):
Amazing.
I've never even, I've never eventhought of growing up.
That's amazing.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29- (16:23):
listeners,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:24):
clearly need to add that.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (16:25):
if

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:25):
Do you know what we didn't say for our
listeners?

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (16:27):
What's the

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:28):
if you are wondering quietly yourself,
wait,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (16:30):
buy

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:30):
what's the difference between the annual
and

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:32):
once and

_1_05-29-2025_10261 (16:32):
perennials?
You buy once

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (16:34):
and

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:34):
or plant them once and then they just.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2 (16:36):
Something that will live one season,
they'll be

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:39):
It's something that will live

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (16:40):
And

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:41):
they'll and then that's

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:42):
just a decision I guess you make
based on what Needs are

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:45):
it's just a decision I guess, you make
based on what you're growingneeds are or what you wanna do.
I personally Am

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (16:51):
want,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:52):
to Peral

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (16:53):
plant

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:53):
in terms of just I

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:54):
work

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only want easy

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:55):
ever

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I don't want do this much work

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (16:57):
then

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (16:58):
Ever again.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (16:59):
it comes back bigger and

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I just,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (17:00):
year.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:01):
yeah.
How it back bigger and betterevery year.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (17:04):
of The

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:05):
but some people love

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (17:06):
I know my Like really

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of

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (17:07):
like, oh, it's

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:08):
gonna the theme store in spring.
I know my grandma,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:09):
her.
She would get her flowers forthe year that she

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:12):
I go to the store and get

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (17:13):
in her

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:13):
her flowers for the year

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:14):
Some people love that and it's sweet
and it's

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:17):
people.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (17:18):
If that's what you wanna do it.
But just know

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:20):
Great.
And that's what you wanna do it.
But just know that for everydollar and every hour, it's
either

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:26):
come back.
You don't have to do that again.
And

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:29):
perennial and perennial back.
You don't have to do that again.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:31):
like

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:32):
also means that wherever you plant that

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (17:34):
where it's

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:34):
think

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:35):
you,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:35):
you're probably not gonna move in.
This is where it's gonna live.
Just some of them aren't easy totransplant.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (17:40):
space.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:40):
Come back in that

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:41):
This

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space.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (17:42):
live?

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You wanna think through is this where it's
gonna live?

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (17:45):
the

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:45):
Pretty home.
It's like the home you buy, notthe home you rent,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:48):
just keep

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:49):
right?

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (17:50):
So

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (17:51):
Yeah.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (17:52):
tell us more.

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herbs are very tender and you wanna try
and keep as much of thosearomatic properties as possible.
So you're gonna dehydrate thisat 95 degrees Fahrenheit.
I do it low and slow and itprobably takes, I'm gonna check
it at like 12 hours just to seeWhat it's feeling like.
Dehydrated herbs are going tocrumble under your touch when

(18:16):
they're ready.
You don't want any moisturecontent really at all when
you're dehydrating.
So make sure that those, thoseleaves or stems or whatever
you're dehydrating are crumblingunder your touch.
That's really important.
And then you're gonna store inairtight containers on a cool,
dry place away from sunlight.
And you can crush or grind thembefore you use them, or you can

(18:39):
leave them whole.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (18:41):
I have a good friend down the road
who gave as a

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:44):
I have a.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (18:45):
A mason jar with dried mint and
dried chamomile mixed togetheras such a nice tea mix

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:51):
Together.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (18:51):
for the wintertime,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:52):
Such a nice,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (18:53):
and I couldn't

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:54):
oh, that's lovely.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (18:56):
how much better all

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:57):
I couldn't believe

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (18:58):
know what

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (18:58):
how much better all that smell than, like
I know what teabag but

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (19:02):
It

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:03):
there are not fresh.
Not even close.
Sure.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (19:06):
It was just, it

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:06):
So good.
And you didn't have to use verymuch.
It was just, it was reallysweet.
It was

jenny-gomes_1_05-29- (19:11):
chamomile,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:11):
very effective

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (19:12):
not difficult

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:13):
to drive.
So like mint, amo mill, that'snot exotic.
That's not difficult to grow.
Those are pretty easy things to,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (19:18):
really nice

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:19):
yeah.
To grow and expensive.
And it

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (19:20):
the wintertime

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (19:21):
was really nice because you Yeah,
absolutely.
And one thing I would say as aseed saver is that I like my
annuals to go to seed in thefall.
And then when they go to seed,you can actually either harvest
those seeds or just sprinkle'emback in the ground.
And in the spring they will comeup and you just repeat that

(19:42):
cycle over and it just keepscoming up.
I don't know if you've everplanted dill, but dill is a
very, I don't wanna saypromiscuous seed.
Seedy plant, but I find what,it's so fertile.
If you have a dill going to seedin your garden, you're gonna get
dill coming back up the nextspring because it's so prolific

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (20:05):
It's spreading

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (20:05):
it

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (20:06):
hither, and yawn.
Have you ever heard any personsay that?
I've heard people

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (20:10):
you.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (20:10):
and it makes me laugh every time
I've heard it, but Dill isspreading its seed, hither, and
yawn.

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The other thing I would love to share with
our listeners is that it's aperfect time to dehydrate your
chives, your green onions, yourgarlic scapes for me.
In one of my garden beds, Iforgot about some garlic that
didn't get separated out.
So this spring there's just abunch of garlic shoots coming up

(20:35):
and I'm gonna take those cut thetops off and dehydrate those.
And then I'll make a powder withfresh garlic and onion tops and
green chives and things likethat.
And I think that's a reallygreat way to.
I don't know, have your ownspecial blend of herbs and
spices that came straight fromyou.

(20:57):
I absolutely love that story ofyour friend that gave you a very
personalized gift of mint andchamomile.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (21:04):
It was super sweet and it was
actually very bittersweetbecause

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (21:07):
It was.
It was

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (21:08):
was,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (21:08):
actually

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (21:08):
she was moving, it was kinda a long

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bitter.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (21:10):
she was like, I'm gonna, I'm
leaving.
Here's my parting gift.
And I was like, man, I should begiving you the parting gift.
But it was just very sweet and.
That wasn't

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But it was just very sweet

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super difficult,

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that wasn't a ton of work.
It wasn't super difficult,

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very

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but it was very good very easy to enjoy.
Enjoy in the wintertime.

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I also think having herbs
available makes you a

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Herb

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It makes your

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makes you a better cook.

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and

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Better cook.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (21:37):
you have them

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And as

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dry

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you have them

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to

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and you

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Which I

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use them,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (21:45):
very

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which

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preservation

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it's just like a very simple preservation
step that we might like, notthink of or not

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (21:54):
you're probably excited

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necessarily be, like, if you're tuning into
this podcast, you're probablyexcited to learn about can,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (21:59):
freeze dry.
Ready

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pressure canning or.
You're like

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skip,

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ready for step

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sleep on the

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2.0, but

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super, super

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don't sleep on the dehydration because
it can be super, super valuableand easy.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (22:10):
Anna, how many

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And

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (22:11):
it running

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yeah.
We'll see, but I usually checkit after 12 hours.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (22:14):
Yeah, see, so like in the 11 to

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Yeah, so like

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (22:18):
you can

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anytime in the 11 to 14 hour range you can
check on it.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (22:23):
so an herb Have preserved

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so an herb that I have

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (22:27):
success

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preserved

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are hops.

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with great success,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (22:31):
are a vine.
That is,

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oh.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (22:34):
the

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Are a vine.
That

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (22:36):
in

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is the plants hop,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (22:38):
strong

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are used in beard.
They actually have a very strongpreservative quality.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (22:43):
Stands for

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you are a person who likes I-P-A-I-P-A
stands for

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has a lot of

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d and

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (22:49):
it because it was preserved

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has a lot of pop added to it because it
was preserved from WesternEurope for the long journey.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (22:56):
lot of hot flavor.

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So they

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (22:58):
what that

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just have a lot of pot flavor.
That's that's what that herb is

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (23:02):
of

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probably most famous for.
Yeah.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (23:04):
which

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Also, I believe a coconut

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2 (23:05):
mentioned because it

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plant,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (23:06):
very

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which only I mentioned has, it has a very
gentle sedative, like sleepytimes

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (23:12):
bitter,

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quality.
Oh,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (23:14):
can dehydrate

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very

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (23:15):
They

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bitter,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (23:16):
a little pine

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but

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (23:17):
You've

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you can dehydrate those.
They look like a little fine.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (23:20):
You could just look at an

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A label of any IPA

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (23:22):
but they're small.

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look at an illustration, right?
They look like a leafygreenstone, but they're small.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (23:26):
it's

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can dehydrate those

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (23:28):
yellow

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easily, and it's the

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (23:31):
pollen, but

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yellow kind,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (23:32):
yellow substance up at the

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actually

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (23:34):
pine cone

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yellow.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (23:36):
but that gets very dry and

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Pine C leaf,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (23:38):
dried.

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that gets very dry and they're very pretty
dry,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (23:42):
a super

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very aromatic.
And that is actually a supersimple

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (23:46):
when you grow

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super simple dehydration herb.
And when you grow them, theirvines are very raspy, like a
raspberry.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (23:54):
climb

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If you needed something to climb a wall
or climb a,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (23:58):
or

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sort of trellis or something, but you
didn't wanna attract

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (24:01):
or

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or produce like

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (24:03):
they're really a

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lawn.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (24:05):
that

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Tractor bear, they're

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (24:06):
see a whole

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really a neat line

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (24:08):
as

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you don't necessarily And what do you do?
You dehydrate it for the purposeof beer making or like, why
would you dehydrate it?

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (24:16):
So if I were just a person, just
not necessarily a

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So if I were just a person, just not
necessarily a home brewer,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (24:22):
a tea,

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would dehydrate a small amount for
adding to a tea.
Like one little of those.
He with

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (24:28):
a Would

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let's say chamomile tea

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (24:30):
sleepy

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and a sugar cube would be a very good
sleepy time herbal blend.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (24:36):
but

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You don't wanna do too much because it is
a fairly.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (24:39):
sleepy

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it does have a

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (24:40):
feel

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distinct

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (24:42):
It's

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sleepy time

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (24:43):
get ready for

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meal to it.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (24:45):
And I'm sure there's some that, I'm
sure there's cookingapplications that I

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Cooking applications.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (24:49):
but

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I'm sure there's cooking.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (24:50):
I just happened to know about
hops.
My parents owned a brewery whenI was very

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Just happened to know about

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-20 (24:55):
Happened to

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when I was

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (24:56):
at my home when I was a kid and.

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Oh, interesting.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (25:00):
Yeah.

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When I was a kid and,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (25:01):
they are a very

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yeah.
Yeah.
But they are a very useful plantin the fact that they don't
produce like a fruit.
That's

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (25:08):
But they're have big, broad

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something.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (25:10):
They're easy climbers, they're neat.
So that's just a possibility

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their needs.
So that's What else can you useinstead of dehydrator?

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (25:19):
yeah.
So if you don't have a You can

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oh yeah.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (25:22):
a

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So if you don't have a dehydrator,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (25:23):
at the

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can use a cookie sheet in your oven at the
lowest temperature setting thatfor most ovens, less

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (25:29):
prop

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200 degrees or less.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (25:31):
To

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You also can prop open the door of your
oven to get a little bit cooler,like with a wood spoon.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (25:37):
Hawks.
You

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You can air dry herbs

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (25:39):
like you

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you can,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (25:40):
Chili's

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on a needle and thread like you would
either chilies or

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (25:45):
You can dry it

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popcorn if you were stringing it for
Christmas tree.
You can dry it like that.
You can air dry bundles of leafyherbs, probably the more drier

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (25:56):
well

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (25:56):
if they like a dry habitat.
Those tend to dry well in the

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0926 (26:00):
I think Rosemary Dry like

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:02):
Sage is good like that.
I think rosemary, they to drylike that.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (26:05):
on a

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:06):
If you've never grown rosemary, it grows
on a woody stem, which is

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025 (26:09):
upside

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:09):
so handy or To hang upside down.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (26:12):
herbs do you dry?
Just hanging upside

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:13):
what other herbs do you dry?
Oh.
I've done lavender.
I've done, like you said, sage,I've done.
Definitely flowers and chamomileyaro.
I think that's about it.
Pretty much anything that I havean abundance of and I don't have
space in my dehydrator, I justbundle and then hang, and it

(26:38):
takes, two to three weeksusually for everything to get
really crispy and dry.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (26:42):
Ugh.
So many easy ways to dehydrateherbs, guys easy

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:46):
many easy ways to dehydrate or

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (26:47):
if there's anything

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (26:48):
so many easy ways.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-20 (26:49):
referred to a

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Think of there's anything else.
We referred to a great articlefrom,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (26:53):
the University of California.

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where is this from?
Oh, the University ofCalifornia.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (26:58):
all the

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that.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_0 (26:59):
that we covered in terms of just

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (27:01):
Just listed all the things that we
covered in terms about growing.
We'll link it in the show notes.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29- (27:06):
dehydrate,

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (27:06):
are growing tips for what to
dehydrate, which to

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-202 (27:10):
general

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preserve in the freezer.

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_092 (27:12):
So it

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (27:12):
And then just general good links for
growing

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_09 (27:15):
the

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (27:15):
really good articles,

jenny-gomes_1_05-29-2025_ (27:16):
Clara County.

_1_05-29-2025_102613 (27:17):
From the uc, master Gardeners of Santa
Clara County.
Thank you guys for listening foranother wonderful episode of
Perfectly Preserved Cats.

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