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(00:01):
Welcome to the PerfectlyPreserved Podcast.
I'm your host Jenny Gomes.
And I'm Anna Cash.
Here we come together to bringyou a podcast all about
preserving food safely, easily,and dare I say, perfectly.
At home.
We are master food preserversmoms wives, and we love talking
about canning.
ready to can like a masterpreserver.
(00:21):
Let's get into today's episode.
anna_3_04-16-2025_11251 (00:26):
Welcome back to another episode of The
Perfectly Preserved podcast.
I'm Anna here with my co-host,Jenny.
I am stoked for this episodethat we are gonna be talking
about today.
We are going to tackle thesubject of will the current
tariffs in the United Stateschange.
How much things are going tocost in 2025 and beyond and what
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that looks like.
gonna be talking about some ofthe American made products where
you might not see as much costfluctuation.
So that's where we're gonna betoday.
Thank you so much for everyonewho has left a review.
If you haven't, go to thatpurple
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (01:03):
Thank you.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (01:04):
Con or wherever you, review podcasts
and leave us a review.
is our first season that we'regonna be on YouTube.
So if you're finding us there,we still have two full seasons
of previous content that you canbinge.
And we're just excited to behere with you today.
Jenny, kick it off.
(01:25):
What did we discover in ourfindings
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (01:28):
Okay.
so it's obviously on all of ourminds hey, there's a lot of
things happening politically andthere's a lot of change, and we
thought it would be awesome totackle.
How is that change going toaffect food preservation?
And I think the phrase we saidwas, we're gonna be timely, but
not necessarily political.
(01:49):
So this is gonna feel certainlytimely.
So we're recording in mid-Aprilof 2025.
And the article that we foundthat actually seemed pretty
comprehensive and helpful forguiding this episode is an
article by the Iowa StateExtension Office and they
covered where canning productsare manufactured.
(02:10):
And they wrote this in 2022,following the shortage and price
fluctuation of the twothousands, 2001.
We're gonna talk about wheresome of our canning products are
made.
Some brands I hadn't even heardof, which is fun to explore new
canning brands.
And we're gonna try and guideyou to where your canning
product prices will hopefullystay the same as opposed to
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experiencing a hike because ofterrorists.
So kicking it off anchor Hawkingis a brand that is.
Made in the USA and they are, Ibelieve, manufactured in
Indiana.
Anna shared that Indiana is awell-known glass manufacturing
location in the United States,and they carry Mason jars.
(02:55):
And I have never used them, butI think that a person would be
happy to give them a try.
Anna, have you used AnchorHawking?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (03:05):
I have used Anchor Hawking in a pinch
when I can't find ball or curjars.
But very rarely.
They don't really I'm trying tothink of where they stock them
in my area.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (03:17):
I think they're a Walmart.
Standby.
I think.
I have used Anchor Hawking brandlike casserole dishes and other
glassware, but I've neverpurchased their canning bars.
But I think that may be becauseif ball is just the standby that
everybody has, and that might bewhy I've never had the need to
purchase them.
Anna, what's the next one on ourlist?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (03:38):
Okay.
So the next one on our list iscalled Country Classics.
These jars and lids are made inChina and distributed by a
company in Ohio.
I've actually never heard ofthis specifically.
Customer reviews are mixed As ofOctober, 2022 they reported lids
(04:00):
buckling and seal failure.
I would maybe steer clear ofthis brand.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (04:06):
Yeah, it doesn't give a very glowing
review.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (04:09):
No.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (04:11):
The next brand that we looked at or
that's on this list is Denali,and this was a new brand to me.
They have a pretty extensivewebsite that looks robust in
terms of offering pressure,canners, dehy lids and rings.
They seem like they have a lotof products offered.
And this article as of 2022.
(04:35):
So they are currentlymanufactured in China, but they
plan to expand US operations inthe near future and their lids
are made of a heavier gauge ofsteel and the lids according to
customers seal well.
And they also have an option toget refunds if you lids don't
seal, which sounds all of thatsounded promising.
(04:55):
In reaching out to Denali, theydid not respond immediately to
my request to find out if theyare manufacturing in the US yet.
But if you were Denali youprobably would be working
towards that pretty quickly, ifyou could, to avoid those
tariffs.
So hopefully in the future theywill be, or if they are not
already, they'll be available inthe us.
Ha.
And have you used Denali, Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:17):
I haven't, I've seen them like I
said, I've seen them on YouTube,on homesteading accounts and
things like that,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-20 (05:24):
Awesome.
That's a good start.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:26):
Okay, so next on the list is four
jars.
This is a newer business thatcame out of the pandemic.
this is a company that actuallyI have worked with a little bit
in the past.
They have a really strongaffiliate program, and some
other canners, that I know onInstagram.
they are based out of, I believeit's Florida.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (05:52):
That sounds right.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:53):
are manufactured in China.
yes, their production facilitiesare in, they're hoping to open
production facilities in Floridaby late 2022 or 2023.
Great customer service.
I don't use them all the time,but I have used them in the past
and have had good experienceswith them.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (06:14):
So on their chat this morning
preparing for this episode, Iasked them, are your products
made in the USA?
And they said they are stillmanufacturing in China.
We hope to finally bring it tothe US by the end of this year.
So not currently.
So four jars is not currentlyavailable in or manufactured in
the us.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (06:33):
Yeah.
And just so our listeners know,as of right now, April, 2025 I
read that the tariffs from Chinacoming to the United States are
in the ballpark of 400%.
So you will see probably someincrease in prices on your lids
from the companies that areimporting from China.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (06:56):
Yeah that's a big percent.
I don't know if you're not anumbers person, that's a pretty
significant increase
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (07:01):
Right.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (07:02):
That will mean something in terms of
your decision making.
The next brand on our list isGolden Harvest, and it's.
On the market as a lower priceline of home canning jars and
lids.
So sold by Newell Brands.
So if you guys don't know this,Newell Brands owns Ball Kerr,
(07:23):
Bernadine, or Bernadine, whichis Canadian.
Those are all owned by the samecompany now, and Golden Harvest
is their lower price line.
This extension website says thatmost home canners find the
golden harvest jars and lids tobe of good quality.
The lids are manufactured in theus There is no wide mouth jars
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in the product line, and there'sno website for customer service.
So that's a mixed bag.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (07:50):
you just reach out to that parent
company of Newell.
Okay, next one on the list iscalled Kilner, and it's an old
English company.
You might have seen it maybe atlike higher end kitchen supply
stores.
Sometimes you'll see them in theshape of a fruit.
They have swing top lids, theyhave lug lids.
They have a lot of different,aspects to their company.
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Kilner makes their own lids, butstandard two piece US market
metal lids also fit these jars.
The jars may come with recipes,but these should be ignored.
Instead, recipes from areputable source should be used.
So I think that's maybe, I'm notsure, I guess I should look at
the recipes before I judge, butI would imagine it's not tested
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recipes.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (08:37):
Love the extension.
Listen to that advice.
That's just so calm.
A spade.
That's so great.
I love it.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (08:44):
Yeah.
The jars come in millilitersizes, not the US standard half
pint and court jars.
So processing times need to beconsidered.
and then obviously moreinformation can be found on the
company's website.
Their jars are currently beingmanufactured in China,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (09:03):
Okay.
Another one bites the dust.
That's too bad because they arereally beautiful.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (09:08):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (09:09):
Okay, the next one on our list is
Mainstay.
The mainstay line is part ofWalmart's offering that's like
their home local brand, likeKirkland Signatures for Costco.
So Mainstay is part of theWalmart lineup.
As of 2022, it was unclear ifthey were going to continue
manufacturing them.
They were being made at theAnchor Hawking plant in
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Pennsylvania, and the lids weremade by Health Mark, LLC, Jarden
home.
But it's, this is sharing alittle bit of a lack of clarity
in where these items are beingmade.
According to 2020 customerreviews, which was a long time
ago.
Lids were thinner and some lidswere defected right outta the
box.
(09:52):
The jars are listed as safe forhome, canning and freezing, but
they do not specifically mentionpressure canning.
I would say just based off ofthat, I wouldn't pressure can
with them.
Mainstay, BPA free plastic lidsthat fit mason jars are
available.
So that would be, not forcanning, but for storing dry
goods like ground coffee orbeans or rice or whatever.
(10:12):
Those are appropriate forstorage, those lids.
And they're available, but Ibelieve made in China too.
So with that they, someunknowns.
Some vagueness, some outdatedinformation.
I would maybe pass on that onein favor of one of our other
options.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:31):
Yeah.
I have you used mainstay brandjars before?
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (10:37):
I haven't, I actually gave up
shopping at Walmart in the fallof 2009 and I went there this
fall to buy a light fixture in apinch, but I haven't, I have not
been.
Let's just, it turns out youdon't actually need to go there.
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:48):
It's one of those things where maybe
you're in a pinch or you live inRural area with not very many
options.
So you do go
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-20 (10:55):
Totally.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:56):
I went there for jars, I wanna say,
during the pandemic, and theyonly had mainstay.
And so I tried'em and they.
We're definitely bottom of thebarrel.
I remember
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (11:08):
Oh,
anna_3_04-16-2025_1125 (11:09):
ceiling, had a huge seal failure rate.
So I don't recommend that brandat all.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (11:17):
right.
I've heard that they breakeasily, but that's just
anecdotally I've heard thatmains, stagers break.
So that's purely anecdotal whatI've heard.
But, that doesn't give me muchconfidence.
Give us the next one, Anna.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (11:29):
Okay, so the next one is called
Orchard Road.
The jars and lids are made inChina.
Following stringent guidelinesper AC company spokesperson, the
ceiling compound is made.
In the United States inPennsylvania, a company
spokesperson said the entirecanning product line has been
tested by an independent labagainst ball products and found
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to perform just as well.
Azure Standard asserts that theyprovide consumers with high
quality canning products atreasonable prices.
If you don't know who AzureStandard is, they are like the
gold standard of.
Purchasing in bulk.
I have lots of friends who ordertheir wheat, their rice, their,
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anything from Azure Standard.
They just have a really highquality.
So I would be interested to tryout Orchard Road.
But they are made in China, soyou might see a price increase
there.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (12:25):
I'm glad that we mentioned Azure
Standard because they are I havenever used them.
But my sister raves about it.
They just really do seem to havea very user friendly way of
buying good quality products inbulk.
And if you click on theircanning supply section, they
offer Azure canning co canningjars, and I'm looking right now
(12:46):
to see where they're made andI'm not seeing it.
I might interrupt our show onceif I find it, but, they do carry
a wide variety of good qualityproducts and they might just be
useful for you guys to know thatit's something worth checking
out.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (13:00):
Great.
Yeah.
We'll keep you updated on thatas we go down the list and maybe
Jenny will have some betteranswers as we go.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (13:07):
The next one on the list is Pure
Mason.
So Pure Mason jars aremanufactured in China and
distributed by a company inColorado.
I did we do a whole episodeabout Pure, because I feel like
we did And they were availableduring Covid.
Yeah.
And they were available duringCOVID and they have great
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customer service as we remember.
Anna will tell you about herexperience.
The jars are lead free.
The BPA lids are now in themarket and are heavier, have a
thicker coating of enamel and animproved ceiling compound.
So they're a good lid that areprobably gonna go up in price
because they're made in China.
That's too bad.
Anna, what was your experiencewith Pure Mason?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (13:50):
Sure.
During COVID at my favorite farmstore called Smith and Edwards,
they had Of pure lids.
And,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (13:58):
Right.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112 (13:58):
purchased a lot because they weren't too
expensive and I had never heardof this brand because they were
brand new.
And when I got home a couple ofthe boxes, the flats were just
smashed on each other youcouldn't really use them to can,
they were just smashed.
And so I reached out to thecompany and said, Hey, I had
three or four boxes of these outof the 10 that I bought that
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looked like this.
I sent them a picture and theywere very responsive, really
quick to send replacements.
Their customer service wasabsolutely excellent, and I had
really great experience with thecompany.
But like Jenny said, they aremanufactured in China, so you A
higher price point in 2025.
(14:44):
So just something to keep inmind.
But their customer service isexcellent and we did a whole
episode all about Pure Mason.
Okay, so next on the list isTatler known for their reusable
lids since 1976.
Tatler began producing one-timeuse lids in October, 2022.
The disposable lids featureextra thick metal for durability
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and double BPA coating on theunderside to deter corrosion.
There we go.
The flat lids are designed to beused with TA's existing rubber
gasket ring.
For those of you that have neverused a Tatler lid, it is a
thick, I wanna say it's like awhite.
Lid that you use and you have arubber ring on the bottom that's
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separate from it, and it doestake a little bit of practice.
Jenny and I were just talkingabout how we wanna try tatler
lids this year and just Go andsee fuss is about, and see if
they're worth it.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (15:42):
I never have used them and I know
that will be our job, right?
To test them out for you.
For a regular person who'spreserving, it's hard to try out
a new thing.
Like when we have a wholeepisode about WEC jars.
And we're gonna talk about thosein a minute, but, even if we
love them, you have all theseother jars that are not so it's
just hard to convert, so tospeak to a different jar, size,
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different lids'cause you alreadyhave so much product that's
different.
It would take a significantcommitment to that new thing to
get several dozen jars and lidsin the sizes that you wanted in
that new brand.
But.
Toddler lids could be reallycool.
And if they're made America,they may be the most affordable
thing you could do.
So that's definitely gonna besomething that you'll hear from
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us in season three.
So stay tuned for more aboutToddler.
True Living is the next brand onour list, and both jars and lids
are made in China and they'redistributed by a company in
Tennessee.
They're lighter in weights thansome other brands and sometimes
found in the craft section ofstores rather than in the
kitchen section.
And I think that's a way of themsaying, without coming out and
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saying that, if you find the jarin the craft section, like Home
goods or Joanne's or Michael'sthey aren't actually probably
the best choice for canning.
They're probably lower inquality.
More appropriate for putting ahandle in or using as a
centerpiece with some sunflowersor whatever that some sort of
event.
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The box says they're dishwashersafe, and BPA free lids have
mixed reviews.
I think we're gonna put that inthe skip column.
True living.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:17):
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't sound thatgreat.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (17:20):
no.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:21):
so next on the list is we home
canning jars.
These are made in Germany andare well known in Europe.
You might see these at again,like a really nice kitchen
supply store.
They do have them in otherplaces.
We contacted WEC and did a wholeepisode about it, I believe in
season two.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (17:41):
I think so.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:43):
we really liked it.
It was a Type of, canningbecause you use clamps and like
metal clamps that you put onthis glass top lid with a rubber
ring.
And it does take some gettingused to, but they're gorgeous.
They work well.
If you don't do very muchcanning, it can be great for
you.
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The jars are a bit moreexpensive, though, quite a bit
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (18:07):
And they're not readily available.
You're not gonna find cases ofwe jars on Facebook marketplace
unless you are such a luckythrifter.
In which case go, you buy all ofthem.
They're exceptionally beautiful,just so pretty, so classy.
William Sonoma sells'em.
If that tells you, they're justreally chic to me.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (18:26):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-1 (18:27):
countryside, even though they're German.
It's just, it's such a bummerthat they're not made in the US
but they're pretty fantastic.
Other than the fact that they'reprobably gonna go up in price.
That's that's wc.
Yeah.
It may, I don't know.
I don't know what will happenwith w They are really cool.
If you can get'em used, I'd get'em.
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They're really neat.
In terms of their reusable lids,I think they are easily the best
looking.
I think the thing about TOR islike they look like just not
very pretty.
Sorry.
Tor.
White is nice, but the Weck isway prettier.
They're definitely the prettiestoption in terms of they're 10
(19:09):
outta 10 photogenic.
And whereas toddler, it's not.
But that's not necessarilyimportant at all, especially for
the topic of it.
That's good.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (19:16):
a
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (19:17):
It's not matters a little bit.
Anna had some good, a few thingsthat we're gonna mention that
were not on this article fromIowa State Extension.
Tell us about Fillmore ContainerAnna.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (19:28):
Okay, so Fillmore Container is a
company that I used when lastyear I was doing my big
Christmas market.
needed to purchase jars in bulk,and the place that I was looking
was a store called, or a companycalled Fillmore Container.
They And tons of bottles andjars, bulk lids and caps, candle
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supplies, canning supplies, etcetera, et cetera.
And you can go through and seethe country of origin for these
canning jars.
A lot of them, the lids are madein the United States.
The jars are made in the UnitedStates specifically like
Arkansas Glass Container.
There's Indiana Glass Company.
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This one real quick.
Arkansas glass container.
Yeah.
The I would call it the Midwesthas a real history of, glass,
right?
Like Indiana Glass Company, theyand Fenton Glass in West
Virginia.
There's just like a real stronghistory of glass making in the
United States.
If you can find a company in theUnited States that's
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manufacturing still here I wouldrecommend reaching out to them.
I am going to be putting anotherbig order in because I hope I'm
crossing my fingers that I getback into that Christmas market,
for December, and I do need toorder those jars pretty soon.
Like I don't wanna wait untilthe last minute, but I also
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won't know I am into the market,I think until the middle of May,
beginning of June.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-202 (21:02):
That'll be here before you know it,
unfortunately.
But that we're all crossing ourfingers for you.
That was so fun to follow alongwith your journey there.
In terms of other canningproducts that you might be
interested in exploring?
Pomona's.
Pectin is a really cool type ofpectin that can be added to jams
and jellies to give it stiffnessif you are canning a fruit that
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doesn't naturally have muchnaturally occurring.
Pectin and pomona's pectin, I'mreading two different things
where the company is based outof Washington state.
But it looks like Pomona's,universal pectin is made in
Italy, so that might beproblematic.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:42):
S.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (21:43):
That might be a problem in terms of
price.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:46):
no, I reached out to
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (21:47):
Tell me.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:47):
to see about.
it wholesale.
And she said that they are a onefamily company out of
California,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (21:56):
So on Pomona's Pomona Pectin.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:59):
new.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (22:00):
On Pomona pectin.com, it says,
where is Pomona's Universal?
Pectin made Italy.
This isn't a blog.
It's their website.
So maybe both things can betrue.
Maybe it's made in Italy, butthe company is in Washington.
I don't know, but I'm reading itright now.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (22:15):
Great.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (22:17):
Great.
And then we were thinking aboutother possible things that are
gonna cost or, everything's,everything costs something.
One salt company that Anna and Ilike is Redmond Salt Company.
And when you're using salts thatare not specifically canning
salt, we have a, I think we havea whole episode about that, but
canning salt is salt that has noadditives.
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And it is purified so that thebrine that you create with a
canning salt is clear.
And it's actually importantsometimes for it to be clear
because then you can see ifthere is some sort of spoiler
growth or problems therein.
So canning with salt that isn'tcanning salt isn't necessarily a
safety issue, but it isrecommended to use canning salt.
(22:59):
All that said, Redmond salt isan American salt brand that.
Something that you could use inother types of food preservation
and just enjoying on your table.
So I thought I would mentionthat particular brand.
What can you add, Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (23:11):
and that's manufactured and mined
here in Utah.
and I've worked with them beforeand I think they're great.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (23:19):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (23:20):
makes because it is this specific mind
salt, it isn't super pure andclean, looking like a kosher
salt or a table salt.
So do know that it will makeyour RINs kind of cloudy if you
use it.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (23:36):
So the last thing to discuss when
talking about food preservationis the price of the food you're
gonna be preserving.
That's something that's gonna bea little bit harder for us to
give a prediction on.
Certainly some things are gonnabe more expensive, and I think
one great tactic that you couldemploy without diving too deep
into the economics of it isAnna's been such a great example
(24:00):
of foraging, making friends withpeople that have trees in your
area, reaching out to localgroups.
And just connecting with thosearound you so that you can avoid
the whole machine there with theprice rollercoaster that you
probably wanna avoid.
And we've talked about that onlots of episodes.
Anna just sets a really greatexample of being community
minded and thinking about how toapproach people and their trees
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and what can you add to that,Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (24:25):
Thank you.
I absolutely love doing that.
I feel really blessed to livewhere I live here in northern
Utah because there are so manytrees, fruit trees that go
unpicked.
We have.
An aging population and we haveI feel like a historic amount of
fruit trees in my neighborhoodthat
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (24:42):
I think so.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (24:43):
I think it's really a special
place that I live and I'm reallylucky.
One thing you can also dobesides just asking people if
they're going to pick theirtrees, is also reach out to
farms and ask if they needweekend help in exchange for
maybe a CSA share we know thatright now, I'm not trying to be
political here, but ICE has beenvery active in deporting people
(25:07):
that are here legally andillegally in the country.
And a lot of those are farmworkers,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (25:14):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (25:15):
Come here seasonally to pick our
produce.
And you likely will see, anexpense that will come through
in grocery
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (25:24):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (25:24):
or farm stands as they struggle to
find people to pick produce.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (25:30):
And they'll probably have to pay
those people more.
Presumably.
I would.
I, that's what I would bet.
So I think that price will bepassed on to the consumer.
I think it is safe to predictthat and to get around that.
I think that you could do wellto get comfortable with,
approaching people communicatingin Facebook groups or local buy
(25:52):
nothing groups or those nextdoorgroups I was thinking about my
local area that's very rural andas farms over the last a hundred
years have gone from producingmany products to fewer and fewer
products.
So many times a farm would havefruit trees, they would grow
hogs, they would have beefcattle, they would have
chickens.
I think a trend in ag has beento produce fewer and fewer, but
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the remnants of that are stillthere.
So that many in my area manycattle ranches also have fruit
trees, dropping fruit, haveblackberry vines, raspberry
vines have the leftovers of thatdifferent type of ag economy
where one farm would have manyproducts and I would think.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (26:33):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (26:33):
That even if you got a No, it would
be a very warm, Hey, thanks forasking, but I already got
somebody who's gonna pick thatfruit.
I think that if you were to findsomeone with a fruit tree or
with that option available tothem, even if you got a No, I
bet it would be a nice No.
Or you might get a big yes.
A big yes and then you wouldhave free produce that would
otherwise go to waste.
(26:54):
So I know for some people that'sreally.
Hard, but yeah.
Anna, tell us how to do it.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (27:01):
No, I was just gonna say that's
absolutely right.
Like I have met more gratefulpeople that want their produce
to get used.
They want their fruit not Groundbecause it can be messy.
And it does bring
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (27:13):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (27:13):
and rodents and wildlife, but they
would rather it go to people toeat.
I think one of the.
Things that I try to focus on inmy business is just also taking
half of that food to the foodbank.
I think there's a lot of peoplethat don't realize how many
people are actually hungry intheir community because maybe
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it's not as glamorous or maybenot talked about.
It can be a point of shame forpeople.
They're like embarrassed to saythat they are hungry, that they
cannot afford food.
And I think it's a reallysimple.
Point A to point B, like youhave, you pick extra produce and
you take it to your local foodbank.
There's very little barriers toentry.
(27:56):
I feel like in your localcommunity for donating.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (28:02):
So if someone thought I have extra
produce, like I asked someone, Igot brave, I picked the apples
off of their tree, or theirpomegranates or their cherry,
whatever, I have extra.
Who would you direct?
A person to like a local churchor how, if you were like in a
place unknown, how would youdirect them to getting a place
(28:22):
to donate their produce?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (28:24):
Oh, that's a great question.
We have such an amazing resourcein the internet.
I know it gets a lot of hate,but.
Being able to just Google localfood banks in my area Contacting
them and just saying, do you
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (28:38):
Great.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (28:38):
drop off times or hours?
Are there specific food itemsthat you take?
Because I know that there arecertain food banks that it's not
always, but like sometimes foodbanks will only take prepackaged
food.
I don't know why.
That's the stupidest thing I'veever heard, because like usually
people in poverty or lowerincome groups don't get enough
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fresh fruit and veg.
I have run into that only onetime.
My local area I donate toCatholic Community Services and
then a couple other smallerlocal food banks.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (29:10):
Great.
So just go.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (29:11):
What do you see?
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (29:13):
I would say if it were a person in
my area, I would Google localfood bank.
And because I think there's onein the next town over that's not
religiously affiliated, but manyare.
And don't let that deter you.
If you're a person who doesn'tattend that particular church or
doesn't attend any church, thatthey're not gonna check for your
rosary or your ID card when youdrop off your pairs, you can
(29:35):
just be a person who makes adonation and.
In Oregon where my sister lives,there is this really cool thing
where they distribute food.
And it is clearly, to me, itlooks like it's clearly
packaged, like it was going togo to a grocery store, and
either it's the misfits, theugly shapes or overruns are too
much overstock or whatever.
(29:55):
And it's all perishables, it'sall produce.
It's held at a church, and Ithink it might be like the
non-denominational ChristianChurch in her little teeny tiny
town.
And I'm talking tiny, and it'severy Thursday for like over six
months.
It's the most incredible thing.
You sign your name on a littlenotepad, but you don't like,
that's it.
You just write your name andthen everyone says a very very
vanilla Christian prayer.
(30:17):
We all pray for two seconds atthe beginning, and then the line
just moves like little clockworkand everyone gets a gigantic box
of produce.
It's incredible and all thatfood would've gone to waste.
It's amazing.
So if you're a person who islistening to this and you know
you're thinking about your foodbudget for the year, there are
programs like that even in thetiniest, most rural places.
(30:39):
There's options for produce,drop off, produce pickup.
If you're a person who could usethat ease in your food budget,
don't be afraid to check thatout because.
I'm happy to stand in a linewith some cool ladies and listen
to a prayer.
You don't even have to pray.
You could just stand therequietly, like you're saying, the
Pledge of Allegiance orsomething and then get this huge
box of produce.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (30:56):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (30:57):
So anyway, we're giving.
We think we've covered a lot.
Anna, I'm sorry.
This episode is gonna be solong.
Anna's now gonna be taking overour editing for us, which is no
small feat.
She'd probably be rather canningany day of the week.
But, she's the girl with a goodinternet connection.
So we better wrap this episodeup.
Thank you guys so much for beinghere.
If you are new here, welcome.
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anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (31:52):
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anna_3_04-16-2025_11251 (00:26):
Welcome back to another episode of The
Perfectly Preserved podcast.
I'm Anna here with my co-host,Jenny.
I am stoked for this episodethat we are gonna be talking
about today.
We are going to tackle thesubject of will the current
tariffs in the United Stateschange.
How much things are going tocost in 2025 and beyond and what
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that looks like.
gonna be talking about some ofthe American made products where
you might not see as much costfluctuation.
So that's where we're gonna betoday.
Thank you so much for everyonewho has left a review.
If you haven't, go to thatpurple
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and leave us a review.
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So if you're finding us there,we still have two full seasons
of previous content that you canbinge.
And we're just excited to behere with you today.
Jenny, kick it off.
(01:25):
What did we discover in ourfindings
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (01:28):
Okay.
so it's obviously on all of ourminds hey, there's a lot of
things happening politically andthere's a lot of change, and we
thought it would be awesome totackle.
How is that change going toaffect food preservation?
And I think the phrase we saidwas, we're gonna be timely, but
not necessarily political.
(01:49):
So this is gonna feel certainlytimely.
So we're recording in mid-Aprilof 2025.
And the article that we foundthat actually seemed pretty
comprehensive and helpful forguiding this episode is an
article by the Iowa StateExtension Office and they
covered where canning productsare manufactured.
(02:10):
And they wrote this in 2022,following the shortage and price
fluctuation of the twothousands, 2001.
We're gonna talk about wheresome of our canning products are
made.
Some brands I hadn't even heardof, which is fun to explore new
canning brands.
And we're gonna try and guideyou to where your canning
product prices will hopefullystay the same as opposed to
(02:32):
experiencing a hike because ofterrorists.
So kicking it off anchor Hawkingis a brand that is.
Made in the USA and they are, Ibelieve, manufactured in
Indiana.
Anna shared that Indiana is awell-known glass manufacturing
location in the United States,and they carry Mason jars.
(02:55):
And I have never used them, butI think that a person would be
happy to give them a try.
Anna, have you used AnchorHawking?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (03:05):
I have used Anchor Hawking in a pinch
when I can't find ball or curjars.
But very rarely.
They don't really I'm trying tothink of where they stock them
in my area.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (03:17):
I think they're a Walmart.
Standby.
I think.
I have used Anchor Hawking brandlike casserole dishes and other
glassware, but I've neverpurchased their canning bars.
But I think that may be becauseif ball is just the standby that
everybody has, and that might bewhy I've never had the need to
purchase them.
Anna, what's the next one on ourlist?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (03:38):
Okay.
So the next one on our list iscalled Country Classics.
These jars and lids are made inChina and distributed by a
company in Ohio.
I've actually never heard ofthis specifically.
Customer reviews are mixed As ofOctober, 2022 they reported lids
(04:00):
buckling and seal failure.
I would maybe steer clear ofthis brand.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (04:06):
Yeah, it doesn't give a very glowing
review.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (04:09):
No.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (04:11):
The next brand that we looked at or
that's on this list is Denali,and this was a new brand to me.
They have a pretty extensivewebsite that looks robust in
terms of offering pressure,canners, dehy lids and rings.
They seem like they have a lotof products offered.
And this article as of 2022.
(04:35):
So they are currentlymanufactured in China, but they
plan to expand US operations inthe near future and their lids
are made of a heavier gauge ofsteel and the lids according to
customers seal well.
And they also have an option toget refunds if you lids don't
seal, which sounds all of thatsounded promising.
(04:55):
In reaching out to Denali, theydid not respond immediately to
my request to find out if theyare manufacturing in the US yet.
But if you were Denali youprobably would be working
towards that pretty quickly, ifyou could, to avoid those
tariffs.
So hopefully in the future theywill be, or if they are not
already, they'll be available inthe us.
Ha.
And have you used Denali, Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:17):
I haven't, I've seen them like I
said, I've seen them on YouTube,on homesteading accounts and
things like that,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-20 (05:24):
Awesome.
That's a good start.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:26):
Okay, so next on the list is four
jars.
This is a newer business thatcame out of the pandemic.
this is a company that actuallyI have worked with a little bit
in the past.
They have a really strongaffiliate program, and some
other canners, that I know onInstagram.
they are based out of, I believeit's Florida.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (05:52):
That sounds right.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (05:53):
are manufactured in China.
yes, their production facilitiesare in, they're hoping to open
production facilities in Floridaby late 2022 or 2023.
Great customer service.
I don't use them all the time,but I have used them in the past
and have had good experienceswith them.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (06:14):
So on their chat this morning
preparing for this episode, Iasked them, are your products
made in the USA?
And they said they are stillmanufacturing in China.
We hope to finally bring it tothe US by the end of this year.
So not currently.
So four jars is not currentlyavailable in or manufactured in
the us.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (06:33):
Yeah.
And just so our listeners know,as of right now, April, 2025 I
read that the tariffs from Chinacoming to the United States are
in the ballpark of 400%.
So you will see probably someincrease in prices on your lids
from the companies that areimporting from China.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (06:56):
Yeah that's a big percent.
I don't know if you're not anumbers person, that's a pretty
significant increase
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (07:01):
Right.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (07:02):
That will mean something in terms of
your decision making.
The next brand on our list isGolden Harvest, and it's.
On the market as a lower priceline of home canning jars and
lids.
So sold by Newell Brands.
So if you guys don't know this,Newell Brands owns Ball Kerr,
(07:23):
Bernadine, or Bernadine, whichis Canadian.
Those are all owned by the samecompany now, and Golden Harvest
is their lower price line.
This extension website says thatmost home canners find the
golden harvest jars and lids tobe of good quality.
The lids are manufactured in theus There is no wide mouth jars
(07:44):
in the product line, and there'sno website for customer service.
So that's a mixed bag.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (07:50):
you just reach out to that parent
company of Newell.
Okay, next one on the list iscalled Kilner, and it's an old
English company.
You might have seen it maybe atlike higher end kitchen supply
stores.
Sometimes you'll see them in theshape of a fruit.
They have swing top lids, theyhave lug lids.
They have a lot of different,aspects to their company.
(08:13):
Kilner makes their own lids, butstandard two piece US market
metal lids also fit these jars.
The jars may come with recipes,but these should be ignored.
Instead, recipes from areputable source should be used.
So I think that's maybe, I'm notsure, I guess I should look at
the recipes before I judge, butI would imagine it's not tested
(08:36):
recipes.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (08:37):
Love the extension.
Listen to that advice.
That's just so calm.
A spade.
That's so great.
I love it.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (08:44):
Yeah.
The jars come in millilitersizes, not the US standard half
pint and court jars.
So processing times need to beconsidered.
and then obviously moreinformation can be found on the
company's website.
Their jars are currently beingmanufactured in China,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (09:03):
Okay.
Another one bites the dust.
That's too bad because they arereally beautiful.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (09:08):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (09:09):
Okay, the next one on our list is
Mainstay.
The mainstay line is part ofWalmart's offering that's like
their home local brand, likeKirkland Signatures for Costco.
So Mainstay is part of theWalmart lineup.
As of 2022, it was unclear ifthey were going to continue
manufacturing them.
They were being made at theAnchor Hawking plant in
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Pennsylvania, and the lids weremade by Health Mark, LLC, Jarden
home.
But it's, this is sharing alittle bit of a lack of clarity
in where these items are beingmade.
According to 2020 customerreviews, which was a long time
ago.
Lids were thinner and some lidswere defected right outta the
box.
(09:52):
The jars are listed as safe forhome, canning and freezing, but
they do not specifically mentionpressure canning.
I would say just based off ofthat, I wouldn't pressure can
with them.
Mainstay, BPA free plastic lidsthat fit mason jars are
available.
So that would be, not forcanning, but for storing dry
goods like ground coffee orbeans or rice or whatever.
(10:12):
Those are appropriate forstorage, those lids.
And they're available, but Ibelieve made in China too.
So with that they, someunknowns.
Some vagueness, some outdatedinformation.
I would maybe pass on that onein favor of one of our other
options.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:31):
Yeah.
I have you used mainstay brandjars before?
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (10:37):
I haven't, I actually gave up
shopping at Walmart in the fallof 2009 and I went there this
fall to buy a light fixture in apinch, but I haven't, I have not
been.
Let's just, it turns out youdon't actually need to go there.
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:48):
It's one of those things where maybe
you're in a pinch or you live inRural area with not very many
options.
So you do go
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-20 (10:55):
Totally.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (10:56):
I went there for jars, I wanna say,
during the pandemic, and theyonly had mainstay.
And so I tried'em and they.
We're definitely bottom of thebarrel.
I remember
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (11:08):
Oh,
anna_3_04-16-2025_1125 (11:09):
ceiling, had a huge seal failure rate.
So I don't recommend that brandat all.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (11:17):
right.
I've heard that they breakeasily, but that's just
anecdotally I've heard thatmains, stagers break.
So that's purely anecdotal whatI've heard.
But, that doesn't give me muchconfidence.
Give us the next one, Anna.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (11:29):
Okay, so the next one is called
Orchard Road.
The jars and lids are made inChina.
Following stringent guidelinesper AC company spokesperson, the
ceiling compound is made.
In the United States inPennsylvania, a company
spokesperson said the entirecanning product line has been
tested by an independent labagainst ball products and found
(11:51):
to perform just as well.
Azure Standard asserts that theyprovide consumers with high
quality canning products atreasonable prices.
If you don't know who AzureStandard is, they are like the
gold standard of.
Purchasing in bulk.
I have lots of friends who ordertheir wheat, their rice, their,
(12:12):
anything from Azure Standard.
They just have a really highquality.
So I would be interested to tryout Orchard Road.
But they are made in China, soyou might see a price increase
there.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (12:25):
I'm glad that we mentioned Azure
Standard because they are I havenever used them.
But my sister raves about it.
They just really do seem to havea very user friendly way of
buying good quality products inbulk.
And if you click on theircanning supply section, they
offer Azure canning co canningjars, and I'm looking right now
(12:46):
to see where they're made andI'm not seeing it.
I might interrupt our show onceif I find it, but, they do carry
a wide variety of good qualityproducts and they might just be
useful for you guys to know thatit's something worth checking
out.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (13:00):
Great.
Yeah.
We'll keep you updated on thatas we go down the list and maybe
Jenny will have some betteranswers as we go.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (13:07):
The next one on the list is Pure
Mason.
So Pure Mason jars aremanufactured in China and
distributed by a company inColorado.
I did we do a whole episodeabout Pure, because I feel like
we did And they were availableduring Covid.
Yeah.
And they were available duringCOVID and they have great
(13:29):
customer service as we remember.
Anna will tell you about herexperience.
The jars are lead free.
The BPA lids are now in themarket and are heavier, have a
thicker coating of enamel and animproved ceiling compound.
So they're a good lid that areprobably gonna go up in price
because they're made in China.
That's too bad.
Anna, what was your experiencewith Pure Mason?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (13:50):
Sure.
During COVID at my favorite farmstore called Smith and Edwards,
they had Of pure lids.
And,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (13:58):
Right.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112 (13:58):
purchased a lot because they weren't too
expensive and I had never heardof this brand because they were
brand new.
And when I got home a couple ofthe boxes, the flats were just
smashed on each other youcouldn't really use them to can,
they were just smashed.
And so I reached out to thecompany and said, Hey, I had
three or four boxes of these outof the 10 that I bought that
(14:21):
looked like this.
I sent them a picture and theywere very responsive, really
quick to send replacements.
Their customer service wasabsolutely excellent, and I had
really great experience with thecompany.
But like Jenny said, they aremanufactured in China, so you A
higher price point in 2025.
(14:44):
So just something to keep inmind.
But their customer service isexcellent and we did a whole
episode all about Pure Mason.
Okay, so next on the list isTatler known for their reusable
lids since 1976.
Tatler began producing one-timeuse lids in October, 2022.
The disposable lids featureextra thick metal for durability
(15:07):
and double BPA coating on theunderside to deter corrosion.
There we go.
The flat lids are designed to beused with TA's existing rubber
gasket ring.
For those of you that have neverused a Tatler lid, it is a
thick, I wanna say it's like awhite.
Lid that you use and you have arubber ring on the bottom that's
(15:28):
separate from it, and it doestake a little bit of practice.
Jenny and I were just talkingabout how we wanna try tatler
lids this year and just Go andsee fuss is about, and see if
they're worth it.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (15:42):
I never have used them and I know
that will be our job, right?
To test them out for you.
For a regular person who'spreserving, it's hard to try out
a new thing.
Like when we have a wholeepisode about WEC jars.
And we're gonna talk about thosein a minute, but, even if we
love them, you have all theseother jars that are not so it's
just hard to convert, so tospeak to a different jar, size,
(16:06):
different lids'cause you alreadyhave so much product that's
different.
It would take a significantcommitment to that new thing to
get several dozen jars and lidsin the sizes that you wanted in
that new brand.
But.
Toddler lids could be reallycool.
And if they're made America,they may be the most affordable
thing you could do.
So that's definitely gonna besomething that you'll hear from
(16:28):
us in season three.
So stay tuned for more aboutToddler.
True Living is the next brand onour list, and both jars and lids
are made in China and they'redistributed by a company in
Tennessee.
They're lighter in weights thansome other brands and sometimes
found in the craft section ofstores rather than in the
kitchen section.
And I think that's a way of themsaying, without coming out and
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saying that, if you find the jarin the craft section, like Home
goods or Joanne's or Michael'sthey aren't actually probably
the best choice for canning.
They're probably lower inquality.
More appropriate for putting ahandle in or using as a
centerpiece with some sunflowersor whatever that some sort of
event.
(17:09):
The box says they're dishwashersafe, and BPA free lids have
mixed reviews.
I think we're gonna put that inthe skip column.
True living.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:17):
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't sound thatgreat.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (17:20):
no.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:21):
so next on the list is we home
canning jars.
These are made in Germany andare well known in Europe.
You might see these at again,like a really nice kitchen
supply store.
They do have them in otherplaces.
We contacted WEC and did a wholeepisode about it, I believe in
season two.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (17:41):
I think so.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (17:43):
we really liked it.
It was a Type of, canningbecause you use clamps and like
metal clamps that you put onthis glass top lid with a rubber
ring.
And it does take some gettingused to, but they're gorgeous.
They work well.
If you don't do very muchcanning, it can be great for
you.
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The jars are a bit moreexpensive, though, quite a bit
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (18:07):
And they're not readily available.
You're not gonna find cases ofwe jars on Facebook marketplace
unless you are such a luckythrifter.
In which case go, you buy all ofthem.
They're exceptionally beautiful,just so pretty, so classy.
William Sonoma sells'em.
If that tells you, they're justreally chic to me.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (18:26):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-1 (18:27):
countryside, even though they're German.
It's just, it's such a bummerthat they're not made in the US
but they're pretty fantastic.
Other than the fact that they'reprobably gonna go up in price.
That's that's wc.
Yeah.
It may, I don't know.
I don't know what will happenwith w They are really cool.
If you can get'em used, I'd get'em.
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They're really neat.
In terms of their reusable lids,I think they are easily the best
looking.
I think the thing about TOR islike they look like just not
very pretty.
Sorry.
Tor.
White is nice, but the Weck isway prettier.
They're definitely the prettiestoption in terms of they're 10
(19:09):
outta 10 photogenic.
And whereas toddler, it's not.
But that's not necessarilyimportant at all, especially for
the topic of it.
That's good.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (19:16):
a
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (19:17):
It's not matters a little bit.
Anna had some good, a few thingsthat we're gonna mention that
were not on this article fromIowa State Extension.
Tell us about Fillmore ContainerAnna.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (19:28):
Okay, so Fillmore Container is a
company that I used when lastyear I was doing my big
Christmas market.
needed to purchase jars in bulk,and the place that I was looking
was a store called, or a companycalled Fillmore Container.
They And tons of bottles andjars, bulk lids and caps, candle
(19:52):
supplies, canning supplies, etcetera, et cetera.
And you can go through and seethe country of origin for these
canning jars.
A lot of them, the lids are madein the United States.
The jars are made in the UnitedStates specifically like
Arkansas Glass Container.
There's Indiana Glass Company.
(20:12):
This one real quick.
Arkansas glass container.
Yeah.
The I would call it the Midwesthas a real history of, glass,
right?
Like Indiana Glass Company, theyand Fenton Glass in West
Virginia.
There's just like a real stronghistory of glass making in the
United States.
If you can find a company in theUnited States that's
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manufacturing still here I wouldrecommend reaching out to them.
I am going to be putting anotherbig order in because I hope I'm
crossing my fingers that I getback into that Christmas market,
for December, and I do need toorder those jars pretty soon.
Like I don't wanna wait untilthe last minute, but I also
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won't know I am into the market,I think until the middle of May,
beginning of June.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-202 (21:02):
That'll be here before you know it,
unfortunately.
But that we're all crossing ourfingers for you.
That was so fun to follow alongwith your journey there.
In terms of other canningproducts that you might be
interested in exploring?
Pomona's.
Pectin is a really cool type ofpectin that can be added to jams
and jellies to give it stiffnessif you are canning a fruit that
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doesn't naturally have muchnaturally occurring.
Pectin and pomona's pectin, I'mreading two different things
where the company is based outof Washington state.
But it looks like Pomona's,universal pectin is made in
Italy, so that might beproblematic.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:42):
S.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (21:43):
That might be a problem in terms of
price.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:46):
no, I reached out to
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (21:47):
Tell me.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:47):
to see about.
it wholesale.
And she said that they are a onefamily company out of
California,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (21:56):
So on Pomona's Pomona Pectin.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (21:59):
new.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (22:00):
On Pomona pectin.com, it says,
where is Pomona's Universal?
Pectin made Italy.
This isn't a blog.
It's their website.
So maybe both things can betrue.
Maybe it's made in Italy, butthe company is in Washington.
I don't know, but I'm reading itright now.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (22:15):
Great.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (22:17):
Great.
And then we were thinking aboutother possible things that are
gonna cost or, everything's,everything costs something.
One salt company that Anna and Ilike is Redmond Salt Company.
And when you're using salts thatare not specifically canning
salt, we have a, I think we havea whole episode about that, but
canning salt is salt that has noadditives.
(22:38):
And it is purified so that thebrine that you create with a
canning salt is clear.
And it's actually importantsometimes for it to be clear
because then you can see ifthere is some sort of spoiler
growth or problems therein.
So canning with salt that isn'tcanning salt isn't necessarily a
safety issue, but it isrecommended to use canning salt.
(22:59):
All that said, Redmond salt isan American salt brand that.
Something that you could use inother types of food preservation
and just enjoying on your table.
So I thought I would mentionthat particular brand.
What can you add, Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (23:11):
and that's manufactured and mined
here in Utah.
and I've worked with them beforeand I think they're great.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (23:19):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (23:20):
makes because it is this specific mind
salt, it isn't super pure andclean, looking like a kosher
salt or a table salt.
So do know that it will makeyour RINs kind of cloudy if you
use it.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (23:36):
So the last thing to discuss when
talking about food preservationis the price of the food you're
gonna be preserving.
That's something that's gonna bea little bit harder for us to
give a prediction on.
Certainly some things are gonnabe more expensive, and I think
one great tactic that you couldemploy without diving too deep
into the economics of it isAnna's been such a great example
(24:00):
of foraging, making friends withpeople that have trees in your
area, reaching out to localgroups.
And just connecting with thosearound you so that you can avoid
the whole machine there with theprice rollercoaster that you
probably wanna avoid.
And we've talked about that onlots of episodes.
Anna just sets a really greatexample of being community
minded and thinking about how toapproach people and their trees
(24:22):
and what can you add to that,Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (24:25):
Thank you.
I absolutely love doing that.
I feel really blessed to livewhere I live here in northern
Utah because there are so manytrees, fruit trees that go
unpicked.
We have.
An aging population and we haveI feel like a historic amount of
fruit trees in my neighborhoodthat
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (24:42):
I think so.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (24:43):
I think it's really a special
place that I live and I'm reallylucky.
One thing you can also dobesides just asking people if
they're going to pick theirtrees, is also reach out to
farms and ask if they needweekend help in exchange for
maybe a CSA share we know thatright now, I'm not trying to be
political here, but ICE has beenvery active in deporting people
(25:07):
that are here legally andillegally in the country.
And a lot of those are farmworkers,
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (25:14):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (25:15):
Come here seasonally to pick our
produce.
And you likely will see, anexpense that will come through
in grocery
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (25:24):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (25:24):
or farm stands as they struggle to
find people to pick produce.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_10 (25:30):
And they'll probably have to pay
those people more.
Presumably.
I would.
I, that's what I would bet.
So I think that price will bepassed on to the consumer.
I think it is safe to predictthat and to get around that.
I think that you could do wellto get comfortable with,
approaching people communicatingin Facebook groups or local buy
(25:52):
nothing groups or those nextdoorgroups I was thinking about my
local area that's very rural andas farms over the last a hundred
years have gone from producingmany products to fewer and fewer
products.
So many times a farm would havefruit trees, they would grow
hogs, they would have beefcattle, they would have
chickens.
I think a trend in ag has beento produce fewer and fewer, but
(26:15):
the remnants of that are stillthere.
So that many in my area manycattle ranches also have fruit
trees, dropping fruit, haveblackberry vines, raspberry
vines have the leftovers of thatdifferent type of ag economy
where one farm would have manyproducts and I would think.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (26:33):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1 (26:33):
That even if you got a No, it would
be a very warm, Hey, thanks forasking, but I already got
somebody who's gonna pick thatfruit.
I think that if you were to findsomeone with a fruit tree or
with that option available tothem, even if you got a No, I
bet it would be a nice No.
Or you might get a big yes.
A big yes and then you wouldhave free produce that would
otherwise go to waste.
(26:54):
So I know for some people that'sreally.
Hard, but yeah.
Anna, tell us how to do it.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (27:01):
No, I was just gonna say that's
absolutely right.
Like I have met more gratefulpeople that want their produce
to get used.
They want their fruit not Groundbecause it can be messy.
And it does bring
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_ (27:13):
Yeah.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (27:13):
and rodents and wildlife, but they
would rather it go to people toeat.
I think one of the.
Things that I try to focus on inmy business is just also taking
half of that food to the foodbank.
I think there's a lot of peoplethat don't realize how many
people are actually hungry intheir community because maybe
(27:36):
it's not as glamorous or maybenot talked about.
It can be a point of shame forpeople.
They're like embarrassed to saythat they are hungry, that they
cannot afford food.
And I think it's a reallysimple.
Point A to point B, like youhave, you pick extra produce and
you take it to your local foodbank.
There's very little barriers toentry.
(27:56):
I feel like in your localcommunity for donating.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (28:02):
So if someone thought I have extra
produce, like I asked someone, Igot brave, I picked the apples
off of their tree, or theirpomegranates or their cherry,
whatever, I have extra.
Who would you direct?
A person to like a local churchor how, if you were like in a
place unknown, how would youdirect them to getting a place
(28:22):
to donate their produce?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (28:24):
Oh, that's a great question.
We have such an amazing resourcein the internet.
I know it gets a lot of hate,but.
Being able to just Google localfood banks in my area Contacting
them and just saying, do you
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (28:38):
Great.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (28:38):
drop off times or hours?
Are there specific food itemsthat you take?
Because I know that there arecertain food banks that it's not
always, but like sometimes foodbanks will only take prepackaged
food.
I don't know why.
That's the stupidest thing I'veever heard, because like usually
people in poverty or lowerincome groups don't get enough
(29:00):
fresh fruit and veg.
I have run into that only onetime.
My local area I donate toCatholic Community Services and
then a couple other smallerlocal food banks.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025 (29:10):
Great.
So just go.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (29:11):
What do you see?
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_1025 (29:13):
I would say if it were a person in
my area, I would Google localfood bank.
And because I think there's onein the next town over that's not
religiously affiliated, but manyare.
And don't let that deter you.
If you're a person who doesn'tattend that particular church or
doesn't attend any church, thatthey're not gonna check for your
rosary or your ID card when youdrop off your pairs, you can
(29:35):
just be a person who makes adonation and.
In Oregon where my sister lives,there is this really cool thing
where they distribute food.
And it is clearly, to me, itlooks like it's clearly
packaged, like it was going togo to a grocery store, and
either it's the misfits, theugly shapes or overruns are too
much overstock or whatever.
(29:55):
And it's all perishables, it'sall produce.
It's held at a church, and Ithink it might be like the
non-denominational ChristianChurch in her little teeny tiny
town.
And I'm talking tiny, and it'severy Thursday for like over six
months.
It's the most incredible thing.
You sign your name on a littlenotepad, but you don't like,
that's it.
You just write your name andthen everyone says a very very
vanilla Christian prayer.
(30:17):
We all pray for two seconds atthe beginning, and then the line
just moves like little clockworkand everyone gets a gigantic box
of produce.
It's incredible and all thatfood would've gone to waste.
It's amazing.
So if you're a person who islistening to this and you know
you're thinking about your foodbudget for the year, there are
programs like that even in thetiniest, most rural places.
(30:39):
There's options for produce,drop off, produce pickup.
If you're a person who could usethat ease in your food budget,
don't be afraid to check thatout because.
I'm happy to stand in a linewith some cool ladies and listen
to a prayer.
You don't even have to pray.
You could just stand therequietly, like you're saying, the
Pledge of Allegiance orsomething and then get this huge
box of produce.
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (30:56):
Yeah.
jenny-gomes_3_04-16-2025_102 (30:57):
So anyway, we're giving.
We think we've covered a lot.
Anna, I'm sorry.
This episode is gonna be solong.
Anna's now gonna be taking overour editing for us, which is no
small feat.
She'd probably be rather canningany day of the week.
But, she's the girl with a goodinternet connection.
So we better wrap this episodeup.
Thank you guys so much for beinghere.
If you are new here, welcome.
The first 10 episodes of ourpodcast are perfect for
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beginners.
Just talks about the equipmentyou need, the stuff you need to
get started, the process and youcan check those out, especially
if you're brand new.
Be sure to follow us on socialmedia.
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She's at Smart Home Canning, andI'm at the domestic wildflower
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(31:40):
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Anything to add, Anna?
anna_3_04-16-2025_112510 (31:52):
No, that's it.
This was really great.
I love this episode.
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