November 22, 2024 • 30 mins
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What if taking charge of your mental health could transform how you experience the holidays and beyond? Join us, your hosts Chief Ali and Lay Loe Tha Mos, as we share our personal mental health ratings and reflect on how family connections can both challenge and empower us during the festive season. We open up about the lessons learned in 2024, focusing on personal growth, accountability, and the often tricky balance between being independent and knowing when to rely on others for support. Our discussion is especially geared towards supporting powerful Black men, acknowledging the societal hurdles they face in navigating mental health.
As we journey through the trials and triumphs of the past year, we explore the profound idea that happiness is a personal responsibility that cannot be outsourced, not even in the closest of relationships. Emphasizing resilience and perseverance, we discuss the urgency of achieving personal goals in a world still adjusting to life after COVID. With insights drawn from family wisdom and cultural influences, we aim to inspire our listeners to keep moving forward, irrespective of life's relentless pressures and the perception of being alone in their struggles.
Triumphing over adversity takes center stage as we delve into the emotional landscapes of visualization, self-belief, and resilience. We celebrate the successes and challenges in both our personal and professional lives, sharing stories that resonate with the unique strength and soul of Black individuals. Inspired by cultural icons like J Cole and the spirit of martial arts films, we reflect on the historical and spiritual narratives of Black resilience, promising richer discussions in the future. We express our heartfelt gratitude to our listeners for their unwavering support, as we look forward to bringing you more engaging and insightful content.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm gonna get artisan with it, cause we gon' be
alright For sure.
Man.
Lay low the most.
What's happening with you, bro?
Tell me today how you feelingman.
How are you feeling mentally?
Let's start there.
How are you feeling mentally,mentally, man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing pretty good .
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I must say, man, I'm doing pretty good the holiday
season used to.
I'm a pretty good.
I must say, man, I'm doingpretty good the holiday season
used to.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm a Grinch.
I'm really a Grinch man, butthe holiday season used to get
me down, but I'm feeling pretty.
I'm actually excited this year.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Actually excited man, be around my folks.
You know we had a family lossrecently so we got a little
taste of being together, youknow, and I like that shit.
But how you doing, man, how youfeeling With my hands, feeling
with my hands, how you doing,nah, man, I'm doing all right,
man?
Thank you for asking.
(00:57):
I'm going to definitely saythat, man.
I'm feeling all right man.
I'm doing all right at 6.7.
Feeling neutral.
My personal neutral is like 7.5.
Okay, but I'm feeling prettyneutral.
What's standard for you?
8.5.
Okay, 8.5.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Up to 10.
Yeah for sure, up to 10.
Up to 10.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't know too many folks who 10s every day.
It's like, hey, you're going tohave to crash sometime.
You know who only tens everyday?
Who that Junkies, niggas thatstay high, stay high on the
bulls.
They don't got a care in theworld.
They do have one care.
They got a lot of cares, butthey don't care.
(01:41):
They don't care about them.
They got one care, we're goinggonna get that next yeah, man,
but uh, how about you, man, ifyou can put it into a number,
into a scale?
What was yours again?
Uh, about 6.7, 6.7.
I'll say a solid 6.2.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
I don't think I'm at where youare.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You, you know what I mean, but Slopper's still pretty
good.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Six that's average.
It ain't bad.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
mean.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Above neutral.
I call it.
Yeah, are you above?
Yeah, for sure, we you know.
Yeah, it's Freedom Speakers.
Thank you all for tuning in toanother episode of Permission to
freely podcast.
(02:28):
So much.
I am your host, the highestchief, ali, and I'm here, man,
with my bro, host with the mostman.
I love this man.
Tell these people who you arenow.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They know me.
They know me, man.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They love the most man, how y'all doing out there I
mean we, we appreciate y'alltuning in man and actually
picking up on what I wouldconsider part two of our
supporting powerful black men.
We like to start off askingeach other how's our mental and
engaging where we are.
Man, as my man said, can't be a10 every day.
(02:57):
Dimes don't really exist likethey used to.
That's a bar.
I like that, cool.
But we fighting a good fight.
And 2024, they used to, that'sa bar.
That's a bar.
I like that, yeah, cool.
But you know we fighting a goodfight and you know 2024 has
shown us a lot of things.
Man, we are in that fourthquarter and one of the things
that I can say and we can goback and forth with this man, I
(03:18):
feel like that'll be a goodthing.
And we just keep going back andforth about one thing that 2024
has taught us and shown us.
So I'll go first on this oneman.
2024 has shown me that I gottaget my reps up.
Okay, I'm, I'm strong and I'mpowerful in a lot of ways, but
(03:40):
I'm not the only one telling mehey, you're doing good, but you
ain't doing well.
Keep getting your reps up,nigga.
You still got more to go.
You still got so much more totank and that it puts me in a
good place.
Man, tell me something that2024 has taught you.
2024?
.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, 2024 has taught me um, it's on you.
2024 taught me um, it's on you.
2024 taught me it's on you.
It's like a motto, you knowwhat I mean.
Like ain't nobody going to doit for you.
You got to do it, you know.
It's on you.
Like, when they pass the ball,it's on you.
(04:22):
Last shot of the game.
It's on you.
You know.
I could go into details on thatat a later date.
You, a nigga, pass the ball.
It's on you, nigga.
Last shot of the game.
It's on you, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I could go into details on that at a later date.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But but I I guess I kind of want to leave it vague
like that for now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Man 2024 has showed me alright, nigga, it's on you
what you gonna do.
It's on you what you gonna do,cause we men you know what I
mean, it ain't sure, you know.
We, we all man, we got peoplewe can lean on, you know, but
you can only do so much leaning.
You can only do so much leaning, especially as a man.
You know absolutely man,absolutely, and you, some, some,
(04:56):
some circles, they'll look atit as if you need him, but so
much help as a man that that's aweakness and it really isn't
man.
We, you know, we need all thehelp and assistance we can get
man.
So I'll tell you this 2024 hastaught me that people will be
mad, that you're happy andthat's sad like hey oh that's a
(05:18):
fact, like hey I'm, I'm reallyworking on being happy.
you know how that, don't you?
How kids with no worries wakeup just happy Grownups that went
to bed, broke, woke up in theworst condition.
You know what I'm?
Saying they got to get theirshit together.
They ain't get a good night'ssleep because it was some shit
they still needed to do.
But just giving that up like,hey, man, it's a process to make
(05:41):
yourself happy, nobody else canmake you happy.
That is absolutely on.
You make yourself happy, nobodyelse can make you happy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That is absolutely on you.
It's nobody else's job to makeyou happy, no matter if you in a
you dating, or you in arelationship, you in a marriage.
It ain't nobody's job to makeyou happy, ain't?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
nobody out here, yo yo clown yo entertainment.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I remember man my, uh, I can't one thing.
I can't stand when the kidsmore so, the boys being a day a
little older- it'll be a chillSaturday, or a chill Sunday,
something like that, and theyhad been outside and they ain't
allowed to play the game becausethey had been fucking up and
shit like that.
And they come.
Dad, I'm bored.
One day I'll tell Lays what thefuck you want me to light
(06:23):
bowling pins on fire and startjuggling them and some shit.
What the fuck you want me to do.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not your entertainment.
There's plenty of shit in hereto do.
You just can't do what you feellike is the only thing in the
world.
I can't play any games sothere's nothing left, go shoot
basketball out in the drivewaygo ride your bike, go rake these
(06:43):
leaves, go rake, go play inthem, go rake them up, put them
in a big ass pile and jump inthem and throw them all back
over the yard again.
You know you will have a ballyou will, you will that's
definitely a blast but um, butnah, that's, uh, that's, that's,
(07:04):
that's where I'm at with it,and it's nobody's job to make
you happy.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's important for everybody to know it's on you,
it's on you, yeah, and that'sthat's.
That's that's when, uh, youknow that's a solo road at your
own pace, in your own time.
Man, go ahead and get thepeople and give people, uh,
something else.
That 2024 has taught youSomething else.
For 2024?
Nobody care, that's a good one.
(07:34):
I wouldn't even say just 2024,game of that when I say nobody
cares.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's more of an internal thing that you got to
remember.
Of course, you have people whocare about you, but you got to
have a mind state as if nobodygives a shit and keep pushing
through what you got to pushthrough.
You know what I mean.
Like you got to have that uphere you can talk to your folks
(08:03):
and you can make feel so muchbetter after I just talked and
got that off.
No, you need to act like nobodyelse gives a shit.
Nobody else, it's you.
It's you what Cat Williams say.
You, the all-star player.
You know what I'm saying yourshit, yeah, yeah, but that would
(08:24):
be another one.
Those two, because I kind offunction in mottos a lot of
times.
You know, like people who be onthe phone with me they hear me
say one day at a time, or likenow, when I answer the phone to
somebody and say, hey, I justwant to let you know something.
I'll say like what's the word?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, okay, what's?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
the word, or Complaining about something.
Hey, we just ate one day at atime.
You know what I'm saying.
Tomorrow going to bringsomething else, what you going
to do?
Cry.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You going to hide from the day?
You can't hide from the day.
You cannot hide from the day.
That's a bar right there.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, you don't try to hide from daylight.
Nah, this sun is touching me.
Yeah, like no, you got to getout and gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You gotta get into it .
You gotta keep pushing throughthis shit.
You know grandma used to saytime, don't wait on nobody.
Now what she meant by that,when she would say that would be
.
You know, she'll see the kidsfor the first time in a few
weeks and how old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm eight.
Girl time don't wait on nobodyso she meant like time move fast
.
However, I take that fromgrandma and say hey man you can
stay stagnant if you want to,but life gonna keep on pushing.
You'll get left behind.
Time ain't waiting on you.
Time ain't waiting on you toget your shit together.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Hey, say that again one more time.
Time is not waiting on you toget your shit together.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You still got a birthday coming up.
You still going to be 43 thisyear.
You can't change that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nigga written due on the first.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It ain't going to wait on you.
Oh, let's, okay, let's stoptime real quick.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let's chill, chill, he ain't got it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, let's wait.
Let's wait till he catch up alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Let's pause for three years, hey, man, that leads me
into this man.
2024 has taught me that theworld has found some level of
normalcy and you gotta keep thefuck up.
You got to get back on trackand push yourself to wherever it
(10:24):
is that you see you want to be.
You can't use COVID, no more.
There's no excuse for shit.
They just kind of look at youfunny now, like we don't even
quarantine for that shit, nomore, or nothing.
What you mean.
So the world finding some levelof normalcy is like, hey, you
need to get back on track, youneed to get your shit back
(10:46):
moving.
And when we do as men, uh, wedeal in production.
Okay, we're viewed as how muchcan we produce?
How much can we provide?
How much can we offer?
Is that a negative thing?
No, but for some it can be, canbe difficult.
You feel me?
Uh, for most is difficult.
(11:06):
I ain't gonna say nobody gotthis shit figured out.
You can have finance and have nosense of money, if that makes
sense.
Not having and having moremoney but no financial literacy
just gave you more to fuck off,all right.
Or you can look at people wholook like they have it all where
they have the world and lost asoul Empty.
(11:28):
Ain't got it?
Yeah, and permission to speakfreely.
You already know I found myselfin that place of life, not that
I've lost my soul.
I have to find my, find myselfhaving to protect it.
I've gained the world, but thatdoesn't mean much to me.
I have materials I have like.
(11:51):
But remember, that's a level ofresponsibility, that's a level
of success.
I can't deny my success, like Ican't, because it makes people
feel some kind of way that hey,materials make you view me as
successful.
Okay, all right, I manage thesethings, but I have to guard
myself and guard my soul,because I don't know who really
(12:12):
wants something from me.
So sometimes it can make mecold, it can make me short, it
can make me having, like readingcertain things a little
different of man, this personjust nice to me because they
want something from me.
They don't really care fullyabout my well-being.
I'm just the easiest route toget them from a fucked up
(12:34):
situation.
Uh-huh, and it's not flattering.
It really does something to myesteem.
Like, hey, I really like to noteven be known or looked at as
the guy even though, like I said, in some circles that just
comes but primarily man, I liketo just kind of be just in the
cut man.
(12:54):
So I find me in that place likehey man, people will train me
and pull from me because theyneed something from me.
Yeah, and feel like, hey, I canoffer it.
And it makes me sad.
It makes me sad, it makes mehave.
(13:15):
It doesn't help.
My trust issues For sure.
So how do you navigate that?
The easiest way is alienatemyself.
Right, just, I have the abilityto keep myself away.
But in contact with people Itry to keep things as short as I
(13:37):
can and I give myself time tothink and not be impulsive,
because I'll get to hear Mr Ken,ken, my cat crying and then my
dog started dying and then youwouldn't believe the fish was
frying and I don't know what todo.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Mr ken, is there anything that you can do?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
and I'm sitting there like damn man was.
Was the fish deep fried friend?
Yeah, I can't solve the problemwhere they looking to hey
ethically, if I throw some moneyat it they'll feel better, but
they don't feel better.
They don't even make me feelbetter.
But just bringing it fullcircle Freedom Speakers, I have
(14:21):
those challenges at times.
Just on, hey man, you reallylike, so you don't really care
about me.
You really want more materialsof what I can offer, and it
makes me sad.
Protect your spirit by allcosts, at all costs, man.
So how do you find yourselfprotecting yourself from, like,
(14:43):
people who can leech or candrain you?
Um, I gotta be honest, jim, Iwon't say I had an issue
leeching.
No damn, it's me.
Huh, but I, but not as far asdraining, though.
As far as draining, though.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Um, I go iso as well.
It happened a few weeks ago,two weeks ago, man, where I just
, I just wasn't answering thephone.
I just wasn't answering thephone and I had to ask my wife
to like.
Hey, like, protect me.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I'm saying and that may sound weird
to some people.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He asked his wife to protect him, what I know she's
supposed to do a certain aspect.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Protect me in this particularsituation.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
In some situations, protect me from me.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know Bigger facts .
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But in this particular situation it's like
you know, protect me.
You know what I'm saying.
Whether it was family memberstrying to call me, hey, reach
out to them.
Just let them know I'm fine, hejust needs some space.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Leave him the fuck alone.
Leave my man the fuck alone fora minute.
He good, I got him and that'snecessary.
Oh for sure, for sure, you are aprized man and a family of
beautiful women who seek to seemen and that are at your stature
(16:11):
, that are available to them.
Yeah, it ain't really many outthere.
They don't show up to themeetings with us when we in
there.
No, we don't show up.
I ain't seen so being that sameman in my family, vanessa's
dealt sometimes with that issueand it'd be like, hey, man, I
need you to protect me realquick.
Very much the same way andshe'll be like you know the
(16:34):
family might.
Hey, can I come over, can Ihang out?
Or I've been reaching out toKen.
Is he cool?
And she just, you know he'sbeen working, doing stuff, he's
figuring things out.
You know it's a lot going onright now.
Yeah, so it is necessary and itdoesn't go without notice.
So shout-out to the wives thatgo ahead and put that roadblock
(16:57):
up for protection.
Like, hey, he taking the timeout.
Yeah, he taking the time out.
Remember, he get to take asmany breaks as he want to,
because he don't take no daysoff For sure.
Yeah, he taking his time out.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
He, remember, he get to take as many breaks as he
wants to, because he don't takeno days off.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So yeah, we need y'all and we, we appreciate that
man.
Thank y'all, thank y'all, thanky'all, man.
So what else is 2024?
Has shown you or taught you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You be making me pull from a lot, bro, yeah hey, make
me pull from reflection,reflect.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
it's a day of reflection, reflection is
definitely important, man.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Another thing 2024.
I had to really sit and takesome time and go through this
year, man, Because quite a fewthings transpired for sure.
Quite a few things, man, andsometimes it take those social
media memories to come back andshow you like, oh, yeah, yeah, I
(17:49):
remember what happened that daywhen I, when I posted this shit
you know I'm saying a long assparagraph I said you know what I
mean, but uh, but it, like youknow, not to, it, just ain't
coming to me now.
But but you know, 2024, it wasa lot and it ain't over, yeah,
you know, and it ain't over, man, you got anything else for?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
2024?
Man, like I said, today is aday of reflection for me, man.
I mean, I've been pulling fromthe archives beginning of this
year to this very moment ofreflection, of reflection.
So, freedom of speakers.
Even before, as you heardearlier in the show, we were
kind of given our gauges of mebeing about a 6.5.
(18:30):
I wasn't always like that.
Today, or even earlier, it wasmore like a 2.7.
I was having a low day.
But what helps bring me fromthat space is reflection,
pulling from the archives of howmuch I'm thankful for, I'm
proud to be alive, I'm proud tobe here doing the things that
I'm doing.
So, uh, no, this morning orlast night, I'll say most
(18:54):
definitely we uh stepped fullyinto the journey of becoming
full-time investors in realestate, so we were able to pick
up the keys for where the ourinvestment property that was a
surreal moment felt real goodcongratulations on that man
thank you, thank you, thank you,man.
It was a surreal moment, um, butit was the the shock of it,
like hey, man, ain't no turningback now you gotta really go
(19:18):
with it in there.
Yeah, so you know that itstarted that last night me being
thankful for things andthankful for my wife being there
with me doing it, thankful toAlexis and Rachel for being the
agents on the job helping usmore properties to go.
Shout out to them, shout out toKeller Williams.
(19:38):
They were able to assist us.
Very, very thankful for that.
But that started the tricklingeffect of me being so emotional,
and I knew I was.
I knew I was going to beemotional like I'm so pumped and
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's just, I saw this in my head.
Nobody fucking believed me.
Now it's here.
Look bitch, Look bitch, Lookwhat fucking happened, bitch.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But it's one of them like, keep going, man, it's more
than a tank.
It's more than a tank.
So I had that reflection ofpassing audits for the year,
getting things done for the job,giving raises to the team um,
you know, doing better on ourinfrastructure at a company,
better recruiting uh, just allof the different things that
(20:27):
made me be like, hey man, yougot a lot to live for, you got a
lot to be thankful for, you gota lot to be happy about.
Can you get your ass whooped inthis thing?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
called life.
Oh yeah, for sure, you fighttitans bro, I ain't this ain't
no entry level.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You said, life got hands.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Life got the best hands and undefeated.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
My nigga so is.
Hey, I hope, was, I hope to bein the top rankings of I put up
a good fight in life.
Yeah, yeah, life don't rememberme.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, write that down, don't remember
me.
You see that scuff under life Idid that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I did that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'll make titans bleed, I'll back Wayne.
Curl up man, hell, no man.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I forgot who said it.
I want to say it was J Cole.
He was like man you only loseif you don't fight back.
You only lose when you don'tswing.
Yeah, for sure, yeah somethingaround them.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
lines you got it Same shit.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, you got it.
But I believe in only goodthings.
Come all shit ain't sweet, okay, I believe shit is not sweet.
And when challenges do come,that's really where you get.
(21:37):
That's where the you nigga, thecrowd gets in.
Yeah, crowd gets thin.
You get to see, like hey, thatnigga, really the nigga man, and
it in the face of adversity, inthe face of, like this
motherfucker, odds is againsthim.
You see a titan emerge fromthis motherfucker.
You never saw, you, you neverseen this person be what they
(21:59):
are until it was time, as wesaid earlier, like hey, man the
master, normally don't, youdon't know he the master, till
he start kicking ass once, once.
Once you start kicking ass,it's like oh you, and he ain't
brawling with everybody is oneshot, one shot is one shot.
Nostalgic moment for a secondpeople.
(22:20):
I remember being a kid andwatching the old bruce lee
movies, kung fu movies and even,in more recent time, man kill
bill, volume one and two, allright, and I'm a huge Kill Bill
fan.
When Uma Thurman, I forgotwhat's her name.
(22:40):
Copperhead, don't give me thatline.
Beatrix Kiddo, beatrix Kiddo,that's the name.
I know everybody in now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You said Kill Bill, right, kill Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
When she went to go see the master, the old master,
she was a black mamba.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That was her aka.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
She was black mamba because Vivica Fox was mad.
I should have been black mamba Ishould have been a goddamn
black mamba I sidebar real quick, man.
Her and Vivica was fucking eachother up in that.
That was probably one of thebest fight scenes, for sure, man
.
But point being, when she wentto go train with the master and
he was like tough on her andjust kind of on her like hey,
(23:22):
man, it's so much in you thatyou don't probably even see, and
that master kicking asseffortlessly With no hands, no
hands, hey, bitch you, amateurat best, yeah.
No hands, no hands.
I mean, hey, bitch you, amateurat best, yeah.
But somebody pushing you thesame as racehorses, man, I'm
starting to get into what theycall like you're doing well in
(23:42):
life events, but going to seeyou doing dog racing, not the
dog racing, but just going firstgoing to Thompson's and betting
on the track.
That's first one of thompson'sand betting on the track, but
then the dog.
I'm not the dog, the uh horsetrack go on the horse track and
be like hey, man, I won't.
I want 300 on thunderbolt, getthe.
But seeing that, those was theequestrians who train the horses
(24:07):
, they only tell you that thebest horses have to be broken
because they wild.
They so used to being free.
Oh, yeah, they're.
Yeah, they're wild.
You know what I'm saying.
They're so used to being free.
But keep in mind, man, I'mgoing to take y'all back.
Freedom speakers, we're goingto go into slavery for a second.
Rumor has it, theories have itthat that two-thirds of the
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population that was thrown fromheaven, that's supposed to be
black people?
That's why we down on earth andwhy our life is so hard.
Uh, that's in theories,depending on what you believe
and different stuff and stufflike I never heard that one.
But the struggles that we, thatwe are placed with on earth,
and people can't see why westill fucking triumph, okay, why
we still come make somethingout of nothing and why we are
(24:50):
doomed.
If they believe or feel like,hey, we're doomed in this realm,
but spiritually, nobody fuckswith us, nobody can conjure up
as much energy and things as wedo.
Still under, still under studyof, like, how black people are,
what do we connect to?
Where do you get this soul.
From where do you get thispower from?
Shout out to my white neighbor,troy.
(25:12):
Mr troy, fuck church, aka fuckchurch, that's his name.
Um, but he will explain later.
It was fun but uh, during covid, you know, that kind of washed
a lot of the barriers ofdifferent things with people he
had asked indirectly because hewas trying not to like offend
and I respect that.
But he's like mr ken, like Isee what's going on in the world
(25:35):
and our kids and like I knowyour history, like I I know, but
like how do you like you guysare so tough and you smile and
you just like how do you likeI'm fucking going nuts man, like
how, but how do you do it?
now from the clear now it's like, hey, man, you, if you've never
been without you, you know I'msaying like we see the whole
(25:56):
spectrum we've been without andwe appreciate the little bit
that we do have.
And then sometimes we do workenough to have more than what we
need, and then we gotta learnhow to scale back, because we
didn't got fat on having shit weain't never had before, for
sure.
So we find that balance, man.
But on today's episode we justwanted to give you a sneak peek
(26:19):
into our mentos and give yousome reflection on 2024.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Once again, thank y'all so much for listening.
We're going to get it to usmore.
It's just a little snippetepisode for y'all.
We're definitely going to givey'all more.
We're going to keep theepisodes coming.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Thank y'all so much for listening and supporting uh
for chief ali, I'm layla themost, and this is permission to
speak really.
I'm gonna get artisan with it, cause we gon' be
alright For sure.
Man.
Lay low the most.
What's happening with you, bro?
Tell me today how you feelingman.
How are you feeling mentally?
Let's start there.
How are you feeling mentally,mentally, man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing pretty good .
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I must say, man, I'm doing pretty good the holiday
season used to.
I'm a pretty good.
I must say, man, I'm doingpretty good the holiday season
used to.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm a Grinch.
I'm really a Grinch man, butthe holiday season used to get
me down, but I'm feeling pretty.
I'm actually excited this year.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Actually excited man, be around my folks.
You know we had a family lossrecently so we got a little
taste of being together, youknow, and I like that shit.
But how you doing, man, how youfeeling With my hands, feeling
with my hands, how you doing,nah, man, I'm doing all right,
man?
Thank you for asking.
(00:57):
I'm going to definitely saythat, man.
I'm feeling all right man.
I'm doing all right at 6.7.
Feeling neutral.
My personal neutral is like 7.5.
Okay, but I'm feeling prettyneutral.
What's standard for you?
8.5.
Okay, 8.5.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Up to 10.
Yeah for sure, up to 10.
Up to 10.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't know too many folks who 10s every day.
It's like, hey, you're going tohave to crash sometime.
You know who only tens everyday?
Who that Junkies, niggas thatstay high, stay high on the
bulls.
They don't got a care in theworld.
They do have one care.
They got a lot of cares, butthey don't care.
(01:41):
They don't care about them.
They got one care, we're goinggonna get that next yeah, man,
but uh, how about you, man, ifyou can put it into a number,
into a scale?
What was yours again?
Uh, about 6.7, 6.7.
I'll say a solid 6.2.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
I don't think I'm at where youare.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You, you know what I mean, but Slopper's still pretty
good.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Six that's average.
It ain't bad.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
mean.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Above neutral.
I call it.
Yeah, are you above?
Yeah, for sure, we you know.
Yeah, it's Freedom Speakers.
Thank you all for tuning in toanother episode of Permission to
freely podcast.
(02:28):
So much.
I am your host, the highestchief, ali, and I'm here, man,
with my bro, host with the mostman.
I love this man.
Tell these people who you arenow.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They know me.
They know me, man.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They love the most man, how y'all doing out there I
mean we, we appreciate y'alltuning in man and actually
picking up on what I wouldconsider part two of our
supporting powerful black men.
We like to start off askingeach other how's our mental and
engaging where we are.
Man, as my man said, can't be a10 every day.
(02:57):
Dimes don't really exist likethey used to.
That's a bar.
I like that, cool.
But we fighting a good fight.
And 2024, they used to, that'sa bar.
That's a bar.
I like that, yeah, cool.
But you know we fighting a goodfight and you know 2024 has
shown us a lot of things.
Man, we are in that fourthquarter and one of the things
that I can say and we can goback and forth with this man, I
(03:18):
feel like that'll be a goodthing.
And we just keep going back andforth about one thing that 2024
has taught us and shown us.
So I'll go first on this oneman.
2024 has shown me that I gottaget my reps up.
Okay, I'm, I'm strong and I'mpowerful in a lot of ways, but
(03:40):
I'm not the only one telling mehey, you're doing good, but you
ain't doing well.
Keep getting your reps up,nigga.
You still got more to go.
You still got so much more totank and that it puts me in a
good place.
Man, tell me something that2024 has taught you.
2024?
.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, 2024 has taught me um, it's on you.
2024 taught me um, it's on you.
2024 taught me it's on you.
It's like a motto, you knowwhat I mean.
Like ain't nobody going to doit for you.
You got to do it, you know.
It's on you.
Like, when they pass the ball,it's on you.
(04:22):
Last shot of the game.
It's on you.
You know.
I could go into details on thatat a later date.
You, a nigga, pass the ball.
It's on you, nigga.
Last shot of the game.
It's on you, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I could go into details on that at a later date.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But but I I guess I kind of want to leave it vague
like that for now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Man 2024 has showed me alright, nigga, it's on you
what you gonna do.
It's on you what you gonna do,cause we men you know what I
mean, it ain't sure, you know.
We, we all man, we got peoplewe can lean on, you know, but
you can only do so much leaning.
You can only do so much leaning, especially as a man.
You know absolutely man,absolutely, and you, some, some,
(04:56):
some circles, they'll look atit as if you need him, but so
much help as a man that that's aweakness and it really isn't
man.
We, you know, we need all thehelp and assistance we can get
man.
So I'll tell you this 2024 hastaught me that people will be
mad, that you're happy andthat's sad like hey oh that's a
(05:18):
fact, like hey I'm, I'm reallyworking on being happy.
you know how that, don't you?
How kids with no worries wakeup just happy Grownups that went
to bed, broke, woke up in theworst condition.
You know what I'm?
Saying they got to get theirshit together.
They ain't get a good night'ssleep because it was some shit
they still needed to do.
But just giving that up like,hey, man, it's a process to make
(05:41):
yourself happy, nobody else canmake you happy.
That is absolutely on.
You make yourself happy, nobodyelse can make you happy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That is absolutely on you.
It's nobody else's job to makeyou happy, no matter if you in a
you dating, or you in arelationship, you in a marriage.
It ain't nobody's job to makeyou happy, ain't?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
nobody out here, yo yo clown yo entertainment.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I remember man my, uh, I can't one thing.
I can't stand when the kidsmore so, the boys being a day a
little older- it'll be a chillSaturday, or a chill Sunday,
something like that, and theyhad been outside and they ain't
allowed to play the game becausethey had been fucking up and
shit like that.
And they come.
Dad, I'm bored.
One day I'll tell Lays what thefuck you want me to light
(06:23):
bowling pins on fire and startjuggling them and some shit.
What the fuck you want me to do.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not your entertainment.
There's plenty of shit in hereto do.
You just can't do what you feellike is the only thing in the
world.
I can't play any games sothere's nothing left, go shoot
basketball out in the drivewaygo ride your bike, go rake these
(06:43):
leaves, go rake, go play inthem, go rake them up, put them
in a big ass pile and jump inthem and throw them all back
over the yard again.
You know you will have a ballyou will, you will that's
definitely a blast but um, butnah, that's, uh, that's, that's,
(07:04):
that's where I'm at with it,and it's nobody's job to make
you happy.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's important for everybody to know it's on you,
it's on you, yeah, and that'sthat's.
That's that's when, uh, youknow that's a solo road at your
own pace, in your own time.
Man, go ahead and get thepeople and give people, uh,
something else.
That 2024 has taught youSomething else.
For 2024?
Nobody care, that's a good one.
(07:34):
I wouldn't even say just 2024,game of that when I say nobody
cares.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's more of an internal thing that you got to
remember.
Of course, you have people whocare about you, but you got to
have a mind state as if nobodygives a shit and keep pushing
through what you got to pushthrough.
You know what I mean.
Like you got to have that uphere you can talk to your folks
(08:03):
and you can make feel so muchbetter after I just talked and
got that off.
No, you need to act like nobodyelse gives a shit.
Nobody else, it's you.
It's you what Cat Williams say.
You, the all-star player.
You know what I'm saying yourshit, yeah, yeah, but that would
(08:24):
be another one.
Those two, because I kind offunction in mottos a lot of
times.
You know, like people who be onthe phone with me they hear me
say one day at a time, or likenow, when I answer the phone to
somebody and say, hey, I justwant to let you know something.
I'll say like what's the word?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, okay, what's?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
the word, or Complaining about something.
Hey, we just ate one day at atime.
You know what I'm saying.
Tomorrow going to bringsomething else, what you going
to do?
Cry.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You going to hide from the day?
You can't hide from the day.
You cannot hide from the day.
That's a bar right there.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, you don't try to hide from daylight.
Nah, this sun is touching me.
Yeah, like no, you got to getout and gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You gotta get into it .
You gotta keep pushing throughthis shit.
You know grandma used to saytime, don't wait on nobody.
Now what she meant by that,when she would say that would be
.
You know, she'll see the kidsfor the first time in a few
weeks and how old are you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm eight.
Girl time don't wait on nobodyso she meant like time move fast
.
However, I take that fromgrandma and say hey man you can
stay stagnant if you want to,but life gonna keep on pushing.
You'll get left behind.
Time ain't waiting on you.
Time ain't waiting on you toget your shit together.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Hey, say that again one more time.
Time is not waiting on you toget your shit together.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You still got a birthday coming up.
You still going to be 43 thisyear.
You can't change that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nigga written due on the first.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It ain't going to wait on you.
Oh, let's, okay, let's stoptime real quick.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let's chill, chill, he ain't got it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, let's wait.
Let's wait till he catch up alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Let's pause for three years, hey, man, that leads me
into this man.
2024 has taught me that theworld has found some level of
normalcy and you gotta keep thefuck up.
You got to get back on trackand push yourself to wherever it
(10:24):
is that you see you want to be.
You can't use COVID, no more.
There's no excuse for shit.
They just kind of look at youfunny now, like we don't even
quarantine for that shit, nomore, or nothing.
What you mean.
So the world finding some levelof normalcy is like, hey, you
need to get back on track, youneed to get your shit back
(10:46):
moving.
And when we do as men, uh, wedeal in production.
Okay, we're viewed as how muchcan we produce?
How much can we provide?
How much can we offer?
Is that a negative thing?
No, but for some it can be, canbe difficult.
You feel me?
Uh, for most is difficult.
(11:06):
I ain't gonna say nobody gotthis shit figured out.
You can have finance and have nosense of money, if that makes
sense.
Not having and having moremoney but no financial literacy
just gave you more to fuck off,all right.
Or you can look at people wholook like they have it all where
they have the world and lost asoul Empty.
(11:28):
Ain't got it?
Yeah, and permission to speakfreely.
You already know I found myselfin that place of life, not that
I've lost my soul.
I have to find my, find myselfhaving to protect it.
I've gained the world, but thatdoesn't mean much to me.
I have materials I have like.
(11:51):
But remember, that's a level ofresponsibility, that's a level
of success.
I can't deny my success, like Ican't, because it makes people
feel some kind of way that hey,materials make you view me as
successful.
Okay, all right, I manage thesethings, but I have to guard
myself and guard my soul,because I don't know who really
(12:12):
wants something from me.
So sometimes it can make mecold, it can make me short, it
can make me having, like readingcertain things a little
different of man, this personjust nice to me because they
want something from me.
They don't really care fullyabout my well-being.
I'm just the easiest route toget them from a fucked up
(12:34):
situation.
Uh-huh, and it's not flattering.
It really does something to myesteem.
Like, hey, I really like to noteven be known or looked at as
the guy even though, like I said, in some circles that just
comes but primarily man, I liketo just kind of be just in the
cut man.
(12:54):
So I find me in that place likehey man, people will train me
and pull from me because theyneed something from me.
Yeah, and feel like, hey, I canoffer it.
And it makes me sad.
It makes me sad, it makes mehave.
(13:15):
It doesn't help.
My trust issues For sure.
So how do you navigate that?
The easiest way is alienatemyself.
Right, just, I have the abilityto keep myself away.
But in contact with people Itry to keep things as short as I
(13:37):
can and I give myself time tothink and not be impulsive,
because I'll get to hear Mr Ken,ken, my cat crying and then my
dog started dying and then youwouldn't believe the fish was
frying and I don't know what todo.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Mr ken, is there anything that you can do?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
and I'm sitting there like damn man was.
Was the fish deep fried friend?
Yeah, I can't solve the problemwhere they looking to hey
ethically, if I throw some moneyat it they'll feel better, but
they don't feel better.
They don't even make me feelbetter.
But just bringing it fullcircle Freedom Speakers, I have
(14:21):
those challenges at times.
Just on, hey man, you reallylike, so you don't really care
about me.
You really want more materialsof what I can offer, and it
makes me sad.
Protect your spirit by allcosts, at all costs, man.
So how do you find yourselfprotecting yourself from, like,
(14:43):
people who can leech or candrain you?
Um, I gotta be honest, jim, Iwon't say I had an issue
leeching.
No damn, it's me.
Huh, but I, but not as far asdraining, though.
As far as draining, though.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Um, I go iso as well.
It happened a few weeks ago,two weeks ago, man, where I just
, I just wasn't answering thephone.
I just wasn't answering thephone and I had to ask my wife
to like.
Hey, like, protect me.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I'm saying and that may sound weird
to some people.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He asked his wife to protect him, what I know she's
supposed to do a certain aspect.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Protect me in this particularsituation.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
In some situations, protect me from me.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know Bigger facts .
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But in this particular situation it's like
you know, protect me.
You know what I'm saying.
Whether it was family memberstrying to call me, hey, reach
out to them.
Just let them know I'm fine, hejust needs some space.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Leave him the fuck alone.
Leave my man the fuck alone fora minute.
He good, I got him and that'snecessary.
Oh for sure, for sure, you are aprized man and a family of
beautiful women who seek to seemen and that are at your stature
(16:11):
, that are available to them.
Yeah, it ain't really many outthere.
They don't show up to themeetings with us when we in
there.
No, we don't show up.
I ain't seen so being that sameman in my family, vanessa's
dealt sometimes with that issueand it'd be like, hey, man, I
need you to protect me realquick.
Very much the same way andshe'll be like you know the
(16:34):
family might.
Hey, can I come over, can Ihang out?
Or I've been reaching out toKen.
Is he cool?
And she just, you know he'sbeen working, doing stuff, he's
figuring things out.
You know it's a lot going onright now.
Yeah, so it is necessary and itdoesn't go without notice.
So shout-out to the wives thatgo ahead and put that roadblock
(16:57):
up for protection.
Like, hey, he taking the timeout.
Yeah, he taking the time out.
Remember, he get to take asmany breaks as he want to,
because he don't take no daysoff For sure.
Yeah, he taking his time out.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
He, remember, he get to take as many breaks as he
wants to, because he don't takeno days off.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So yeah, we need y'all and we, we appreciate that
man.
Thank y'all, thank y'all, thanky'all, man.
So what else is 2024?
Has shown you or taught you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You be making me pull from a lot, bro, yeah hey, make
me pull from reflection,reflect.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
it's a day of reflection, reflection is
definitely important, man.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Another thing 2024.
I had to really sit and takesome time and go through this
year, man, Because quite a fewthings transpired for sure.
Quite a few things, man, andsometimes it take those social
media memories to come back andshow you like, oh, yeah, yeah, I
(17:49):
remember what happened that daywhen I, when I posted this shit
you know I'm saying a long assparagraph I said you know what I
mean, but uh, but it, like youknow, not to, it, just ain't
coming to me now.
But but you know, 2024, it wasa lot and it ain't over, yeah,
you know, and it ain't over, man, you got anything else for?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
2024?
Man, like I said, today is aday of reflection for me, man.
I mean, I've been pulling fromthe archives beginning of this
year to this very moment ofreflection, of reflection.
So, freedom of speakers.
Even before, as you heardearlier in the show, we were
kind of given our gauges of mebeing about a 6.5.
(18:30):
I wasn't always like that.
Today, or even earlier, it wasmore like a 2.7.
I was having a low day.
But what helps bring me fromthat space is reflection,
pulling from the archives of howmuch I'm thankful for, I'm
proud to be alive, I'm proud tobe here doing the things that
I'm doing.
So, uh, no, this morning orlast night, I'll say most
(18:54):
definitely we uh stepped fullyinto the journey of becoming
full-time investors in realestate, so we were able to pick
up the keys for where the ourinvestment property that was a
surreal moment felt real goodcongratulations on that man
thank you, thank you, thank you,man.
It was a surreal moment, um, butit was the the shock of it,
like hey, man, ain't no turningback now you gotta really go
(19:18):
with it in there.
Yeah, so you know that itstarted that last night me being
thankful for things andthankful for my wife being there
with me doing it, thankful toAlexis and Rachel for being the
agents on the job helping usmore properties to go.
Shout out to them, shout out toKeller Williams.
(19:38):
They were able to assist us.
Very, very thankful for that.
But that started the tricklingeffect of me being so emotional,
and I knew I was.
I knew I was going to beemotional like I'm so pumped and
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's just, I saw this in my head.
Nobody fucking believed me.
Now it's here.
Look bitch, Look bitch, Lookwhat fucking happened, bitch.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But it's one of them like, keep going, man, it's more
than a tank.
It's more than a tank.
So I had that reflection ofpassing audits for the year,
getting things done for the job,giving raises to the team um,
you know, doing better on ourinfrastructure at a company,
better recruiting uh, just allof the different things that
(20:27):
made me be like, hey man, yougot a lot to live for, you got a
lot to be thankful for, you gota lot to be happy about.
Can you get your ass whooped inthis thing?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
called life.
Oh yeah, for sure, you fighttitans bro, I ain't this ain't
no entry level.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You said, life got hands.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Life got the best hands and undefeated.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
My nigga so is.
Hey, I hope, was, I hope to bein the top rankings of I put up
a good fight in life.
Yeah, yeah, life don't rememberme.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, write that down, don't remember
me.
You see that scuff under life Idid that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I did that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'll make titans bleed, I'll back Wayne.
Curl up man, hell, no man.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I forgot who said it.
I want to say it was J Cole.
He was like man you only loseif you don't fight back.
You only lose when you don'tswing.
Yeah, for sure, yeah somethingaround them.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
lines you got it Same shit.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, you got it.
But I believe in only goodthings.
Come all shit ain't sweet, okay, I believe shit is not sweet.
And when challenges do come,that's really where you get.
(21:37):
That's where the you nigga, thecrowd gets in.
Yeah, crowd gets thin.
You get to see, like hey, thatnigga, really the nigga man, and
it in the face of adversity, inthe face of, like this
motherfucker, odds is againsthim.
You see a titan emerge fromthis motherfucker.
You never saw, you, you neverseen this person be what they
(21:59):
are until it was time, as wesaid earlier, like hey, man the
master, normally don't, youdon't know he the master, till
he start kicking ass once, once.
Once you start kicking ass,it's like oh you, and he ain't
brawling with everybody is oneshot, one shot is one shot.
Nostalgic moment for a secondpeople.
(22:20):
I remember being a kid andwatching the old bruce lee
movies, kung fu movies and even,in more recent time, man kill
bill, volume one and two, allright, and I'm a huge Kill Bill
fan.
When Uma Thurman, I forgotwhat's her name.
(22:40):
Copperhead, don't give me thatline.
Beatrix Kiddo, beatrix Kiddo,that's the name.
I know everybody in now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You said Kill Bill, right, kill Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
When she went to go see the master, the old master,
she was a black mamba.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That was her aka.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
She was black mamba because Vivica Fox was mad.
I should have been black mamba Ishould have been a goddamn
black mamba I sidebar real quick, man.
Her and Vivica was fucking eachother up in that.
That was probably one of thebest fight scenes, for sure, man
.
But point being, when she wentto go train with the master and
he was like tough on her andjust kind of on her like hey,
(23:22):
man, it's so much in you thatyou don't probably even see, and
that master kicking asseffortlessly With no hands, no
hands, hey, bitch you, amateurat best, yeah.
No hands, no hands.
I mean, hey, bitch you, amateurat best, yeah.
But somebody pushing you thesame as racehorses, man, I'm
starting to get into what theycall like you're doing well in
(23:42):
life events, but going to seeyou doing dog racing, not the
dog racing, but just going firstgoing to Thompson's and betting
on the track.
That's first one of thompson'sand betting on the track, but
then the dog.
I'm not the dog, the uh horsetrack go on the horse track and
be like hey, man, I won't.
I want 300 on thunderbolt, getthe.
But seeing that, those was theequestrians who train the horses
(24:07):
, they only tell you that thebest horses have to be broken
because they wild.
They so used to being free.
Oh, yeah, they're.
Yeah, they're wild.
You know what I'm saying.
They're so used to being free.
But keep in mind, man, I'mgoing to take y'all back.
Freedom speakers, we're goingto go into slavery for a second.
Rumor has it, theories have itthat that two-thirds of the
(24:27):
population that was thrown fromheaven, that's supposed to be
black people?
That's why we down on earth andwhy our life is so hard.
Uh, that's in theories,depending on what you believe
and different stuff and stufflike I never heard that one.
But the struggles that we, thatwe are placed with on earth,
and people can't see why westill fucking triumph, okay, why
we still come make somethingout of nothing and why we are
(24:50):
doomed.
If they believe or feel like,hey, we're doomed in this realm,
but spiritually, nobody fuckswith us, nobody can conjure up
as much energy and things as wedo.
Still under, still under studyof, like, how black people are,
what do we connect to?
Where do you get this soul.
From where do you get thispower from?
Shout out to my white neighbor,troy.
(25:12):
Mr troy, fuck church, aka fuckchurch, that's his name.
Um, but he will explain later.
It was fun but uh, during covid, you know, that kind of washed
a lot of the barriers ofdifferent things with people he
had asked indirectly because hewas trying not to like offend
and I respect that.
But he's like mr ken, like Isee what's going on in the world
(25:35):
and our kids and like I knowyour history, like I I know, but
like how do you like you guysare so tough and you smile and
you just like how do you likeI'm fucking going nuts man, like
how, but how do you do it?
now from the clear now it's like, hey, man, you, if you've never
been without you, you know I'msaying like we see the whole
(25:56):
spectrum we've been without andwe appreciate the little bit
that we do have.
And then sometimes we do workenough to have more than what we
need, and then we gotta learnhow to scale back, because we
didn't got fat on having shit weain't never had before, for
sure.
So we find that balance, man.
But on today's episode we justwanted to give you a sneak peek
(26:19):
into our mentos and give yousome reflection on 2024.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Once again, thank y'all so much for listening.
We're going to get it to usmore.
It's just a little snippetepisode for y'all.
We're definitely going to givey'all more.
We're going to keep theepisodes coming.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Thank y'all so much for listening and supporting uh
for chief ali, I'm layla themost, and this is permission to
speak really.
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