Financial Awareness, Masculinity Insights, and Relationship Navigation

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What we gonna talk about when we just hey, what's
up, bro, what's going on withyou?
We should just go yeah, forsure, man.
A lot of times it's veryorganic, yeah, and I prefer for
our shows and conversations toactually be that way, man,
whereas we actually just get to.
You know think I don't want tobe too scripted.
I feel like sometimes, with alot of the shows, a lot of

(00:22):
people you know they got theirpoints and things they want to
talk about for sure.
But I actually feel like whenwe just let it roll organically,
people get to see that naturalflow, that natural like oh no,
them niggas really choppy Forsure.
And on the flip side, it's alot of shit that we can't
fucking say on the podcast Justlike, yeah, that's the way to do
it, that's all shit.
I know we asked permission tospeak freely, but I ain't free

(00:47):
from repercussions.
We ain't ready for some facts.
We be having to hold back alittle bit.
We got families that we happywith, for sure, for sure, for
sure, for sure, man, get thatpart out.
So a couple things we mostdefinitely want to talk about
today, man.
We going into the holidayseason, so a lot of times you
find a lot of people.
They start budget cutting, theystart kind of saving a lot of

(01:11):
different things.
Man, are you finding yourselfin that place to be able to make
that Christmas budget or thatThanksgiving budget?
First of all, forget theChristmas budget.
I'm cutting all the time.
I'm cutting for spring.
I got a deck to build.
I'm cutting all the time.
I'm cutting for spring.
I got a deck to build.
I'm trying to put a decktogether.
That sounds like a 1% problem.
Yeah, how much is it going tocost me to build this deck?

(01:34):
I need 40, 20-foot 2x4.
Not to mention just tools andshit.
I need a bunch of nails.
Time, you get a whole 1,000.
I need a bunch of nails.
Time, yeah, you get a wholelike a thousand boxes of nails.
Like, I'm teetering Like okay,yeah, or like do I use a nail
gun or do I just hammer thisshit in with Granddaddy Hammer?
I still got my Granddaddy'shammer.
Hey, that's playing mad homage.

(01:56):
Yeah, for sure, that sound likemad work, though.
And when that with me, he'sstrong.
He was strong, john Henry, withthat jam, let your apples swing
, but nah, man.
So listen, I know we don't liketo really time stamp our
episode, for sure, for sure.
But it is October 14th and it'scold.

(02:19):
Yeah, it's cold, man, when Iwoke up this morning, I looked
and I got, I got, I got, I got,ooh, that fan, hey, hey, that
fan, don't wait up.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
But I look at my shit and I'mlike Feels like 40, huh.
So it's time.

(02:40):
So like Going back into the Cutyour heat on yet, yes, yes, yes
, you gotta thaw it out Likeanother week.
So it's time.
So like going back into the Cutyour heat on yet, yes, yes, yes
, you got to thaw it out likeanother week.
Yes, no, no.
So freedom speakers LeVon and Iare lay low.
As you may know him, we bothhave a lot of square footage in

(03:02):
our home.
Yes, Okay.
So I have a wife that wouldcomplain about it being cold,
yeah, and I freeze her out allyear long with the ceiling fan
on the fan, blowing in my face.
The door cracked With twoblankets, yeah, with two
blankets, and she got to benuzzled up next to me.
So when she like, hey, it'scold, I go ahead and turn that

(03:26):
heat up on At the same time.
Bro, we just had some work done,so I wanted to test out like,
oh yeah, how well insulated youare, yeah for sure.
So I wanted to test out, I getthat, I get that.
So I could keep it at like 69,70 on heat and AC.
Yeah, compared to what it usedto be, I had to crank it up to
like 73, 74.

(03:47):
Man, I'm trying to thug it outbecause we at the point like
it's just getting cold, you know, you kind of got like a
financial decision to make whenthat heat cut on.
You know what I mean.
So with us, my wife, she workfrom home one to two days a week
now.
So One to two days a week now.
So as far as her office go, it'slike, hey, you don't need no
heat in there right now.

(04:07):
Close them, damn vents.
Like I cut the shit on for youthe morning.
I know you, finna, work inthere, but other than that, keep
that door closed.
You trying to keep yourcomputers warm, fuck, you don't
need no appliances.
They could be cold, they couldbe.
Look old, it ain't freezing inthere.
But definitely appliance theycould be, they could be, they
could be.

(04:27):
Look, oh, it ain't freezing inthere.
But definitely, when it comesdown to the budgeting man, that
heat be a bitch.
You can't do it all.
You can't.
Nah, we got small kids and shit.
They're gonna be sick noserunning.
We can't have that.
But as far as some of the thingsI'm doing, as far as budgeting,
man, my, my, um, mysubscriptions the subscriptions
be getting us in trouble, man.
You got your.
You know if you got like afucking food subscription, you

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know what I'm saying.
If you, if you like me well, Idon't really do this, I did once
I tried it, but you got like alittle car wash subscription,
nigga, twenty dollars a month,watch every day, you want to
twenty dollars.
So if I watch twice, the restof them for the month frame,
pretty much you end up goingjust twice.
They be getting this, but thesubscription gets you in trouble

(05:13):
, man.
So, like I told you earlier,screw Netflix, not messing with
them, they'll wax you, althoughNow this means being extra cheap
, because they got a package towhere you can run one device
with them.
You know they'll wax you,although now this made me an
extra cheap, right, because theygot a package to where you can
run one device at a time.
Okay, one device I want to sayis $7.99.

(05:37):
It might be $6.99, but it'saround seven dollars a month.
Ain't no extra audio bump, youknow, because when you pay for
that, shit's like oh, I can hearit different, that Dobly Adam
sounds and shit, I hear it, youknow.
Plus, I got the nice shit yougon' hear it, you know, yeah.
So, uh, sorry, man, forget that.
You know, I don't care that itcoming 480i, I can see.

(05:57):
I can see TV look like a fingerpainting.
Damn a finger painting.
Damn Resolution, be like that.
It ain't that bad.
When you get used to Take yourglasses off, you'll be fine.
Take you back to a Fatback TVResolution.
Got a dinosaur in there.
But listen, man.
So I did that.
But I'm like you know what,forget that.
Because Netflix, you know theydo a good job, man, but I don't
really watch it that much, man.

(06:21):
But bundle down.
It's like look, I don't evenneed ESPN, let me drop this shit
down.
You know, again, just budgeting,whether it be for Christmas or
just trying to kick it in June.
Oh, yeah, trying to kick it inJune.
I'm saving up my coins anddoing push-ups now, bro, yeah,
y'all drinking water and shit.
Hey, I'm going to show you mysteps.
Are you serious?

(06:42):
Yeah, gonna show you my steps.
Are you serious?
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm gonna showyou my steps.
See how I burn.
There's been calories, yeah,steps, I had 19 000 steps
yesterday.
Some crazy, not that many, butyou know what I mean?
See, that was up there, I wasup there, I was up there.
So, uh, but as far as the disneybundle man, I go on there and I
see that they have you can getdisney plus hulu and h Max.

(07:04):
I didn't know Max was part oftheir shit, but at some point it
happened contractually.
And Max with ads for $16 amonth.
I'm like, oh, run it, run it.
My wife, when she found outthis shit got ads, she like man,
I thought I was tripping.
I ain't nobody do now, becauseI get all three of these for $16

(07:29):
a month.
All I got to do is watch alittle 40-second commercial
every now and again.
Hey, it's going to teach youpatience, baby.
I'm with that.
It's going to teach youpatience because we grew up in a
time where freedom speaker, wemight be identifying our age
right now, but I just turned 37this year.
So, but I just turned 37 thisyear, so I grew up in a time
frame where one you wasfortunate if you had a TV in the
house, or if you had a TV inyour room, or you had a TV that

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was still in color, or you had aTV that all the channels came
in.
You didn't have to like oneknob at the top.
It was like the 3, 5, 8, 19.
Then you had PBS at the bottom25, 43, 55.
It was 3 and five came in.
Good, if you lucky, channelEight came in, the best, you're
going to end up getting one ofthem QVC channels real staticky

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though you know, you young, youain't got no money anyway, you
don't need that.
Then you got 19.
You can catch a Browns gameover I'm forgetting about them
W-O-I-O.
You got to have that.
You got 43.
Remember UPN?
Yeah, yeah, the fucking Malcolmand Eddie and the Williams
Brothers and shit used to comeon Homeboys and Outer Space, all
that, all that.
Oh shit, listen, you skipthrough.

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You're going to get Channel 61.
It's all Spanish.
Yeah, that's Telemundo.
Yeah, te, they always lie.
Yeah, telemundo, the PC movie.
And then 55.
55 was like the shit after that.
That's it, bro.
You had about 8 channels.
55 was with WVIZ.
No, it was WB.
Wviz was a PBS, pbs and shit.

(08:57):
That was 25 channel.
55 was the WB, the WB, yeah, wb.
So in the morning you can watchyour cartoons and shit and in
the evening you're watching likeSabrina the Teenage Witch.
Actually, I remember watchingthat.
I can't remember if it was UPNat the time, but they used to
get the Cavs games.
Now, not only are we agingourselves, but we're also aging

(09:21):
LeBron James early LeBron career, like his first three years in
Cleveland.
The Cavs was coming on regulardegular, shmegular, ass TV On 43
.
On 43.
You remember them?
They started wearing thehardwood classic jerseys from
like the 70s.
They had like the blocks on theside.

(09:41):
Oh, you talking like 03?
Yeah, yeah, 04?
.
They started bringing them back.
So, listen, I would watch theCavs games.
I had a little small nigga,18-inch black and white TV in my
room.
They got tablets this size nowComputer screens yeah, just
carrying them around all day.
So I would watch the Cavs gameson that TV.

(10:03):
Nigga, I had no idea what colorthem jerseys were, word, until
one day I went to school and Ihappened to see the newspaper.
The Cavs did something greatand they was on the cover of the
newspaper.
I'm like, oh shit, them bitchesgold and with the white and
burgundy stripe on the side, thewine and gold choice.
I had no idea what color themjerseys was, bro, and we talking

(10:23):
0405.
Yeah, 0405.
Flat screens just coming out?
Yeah, like for our generation,maybe.
No, at that point, at thatpoint, you was the shit.
Flat screen wasn't popular.
You may have a flat screen, butthat bitch got a big back, got
a big ass.
You remember that?
You got a fat.
Who call them fat backs, bigback joints, man, he got that

(10:46):
donk on the back of that.
We, we've come a long way.
Yes, sir, we've come a long way, man, but that's just a couple
of things I've been doing as faras.
As far as budgeting go, man Gotmoves to.
Oh, dad, I'm hungry.
Hey man, we got like an hourbefore we got to get your
brother off the bus.
Let's stop and get something,and that shit.

(11:13):
I'm like nigga, I'm going tospend fucking $62 just me and
this nigga sneaking off, gettingChipotle and burgers and shit.
Right now.
It's like you're going to behungry in about three and a half
, four hours.
Hey man, dinner is in threehours.
Son, I'm going to get home, geta snack.
I'm making burgers Daddy'sfamous, you know what I'm saying
.
But shit like that man.
We got McDonald's at home.
Yeah, a little goes a long way.
A little goes a long way,especially with the moves my

(11:35):
wife and I is trying to make.
You know, hey, I've turned intoa—I'm trying to figure out how
I want to coin this, but reallythe only way I can is like a
credit head.
Like a credit head and this iscoming from somebody who does
not have excellent credit butI'm learning how to get it, how
to obtain that, learning sometips and tricks, digging into my

(11:58):
shit, seeing what I can dobetter, credibly.
If that's a word, is that aword?
That's a word.
Uh, it will be, it will be, itwill be.
But, um, but, like, digginginto my, digging into my
business, like, all right, bro,what's up?
What can you do?
Because it's important, man,you and I, we was talking about
this shit all last week.

(12:18):
We had a whole creditconversation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,man, and I'm a person who I'm no
credit guru, I'm no credit likeI teach it or anything like
that, but I'm a heavy user of it, you know, and as a
entrepreneur man, I need that.
That credit buys you time.

(12:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Really buys you time and itshows a lot of your financial
responsibility for people whoare willing to lend you money.
Yeah, you know I'm a person whoI live off of credit.

(13:01):
So freedom speakers a lot oftimes I love to give people
financial advice of how to youknow how to stack their dough,
how to get how to understandtheir bands to a certain degree
understand your band.
I feel like everybody that hasa job should have some lines of
credit at least $5,000 to$10,000 lines of credit credit
cards, something like that and abank job is to offer that to
you.
But you gotta make yourselfattractive.
You gotta make yourselffinancially attractive, very

(13:22):
much so.
And we ain't talking about inthe street, yeah, if you just
don't work, you holding up bandsin your hand and going into the
bank feeling like they gonnafuck with you because most of
the time that money still gottabe traced to like where it came
from.
But they don't wanna see yourpaper Owing money up to your
face.
They wanna see your paper, yourcredit history of somebody

(13:43):
financed.
You loaned you some money.
You made some on time payments.
Your credit is diversified.
You probably own a couplethings a car.
You know your home.
You got a couple credit cards,people loaned you stuff.
You were able to show someresponsibility.
So, as a financial person man, Ialways tell like even with the
staff, like, man, mr King, Ineed some money, I need some

(14:04):
money.
I'm like, man, go apply forthat shit, just like I do, go
apply for it.
Now, you think I'm supposed togive you a dollar.
I'm supposed to, I, as thebusinessman, supposed to give
you more money because your lifefucked up right now, like

(14:25):
because I can't time, because itis like it's unethical for me
to just throw money towards youfor every issue that you have
personally.
It don't work like that.
The company won't be, would bea company, won't be a company
because if everybody got shit,yeah, everybody got shit.
So to be like, oh man, I gottaget this person extra 20 grand
because, um, you know lifehappened.
It's like, hey, I gotta find 20grand first to be able to get
this shit, the fuck way, I ain'tfucking got it, nigga.

(14:45):
It's like, nigga, everybody gota sad story, yeah, so it's just
learning that or whatever.
But telling people, hey, man,go apply for credit, go apply
for a credit card, is somebodygoing to be willing to give it
to you?
So I give you this example, Igive you my own story.
When it comes to credit, talkto us, bruh.
I had no, I was hood mentality,street mentality, cash in, cash

(15:11):
out, I'll make it back, I'llmake it back and I'm just kind
of spending.
This nigga was John Shad Bruh.
I was just spending in and out,in and out, in and out.
I wasn't saving nothing.
All I a debit account with thebank, but I had money in them.
I had debit accounts with moneyin them, but I'm paying taxes.
I'm paying.
I got to account for taxes.
I got to account for payroll, Igot to account for expenses,

(15:33):
then I got to account just fordeposits.
But I'm using all of theseaccounts to kind of keep things
balanced.
You know what I'm saying, but Ihad no credit to be able to
keep, keep me afloat on.
You gotta be, you gotta useyour capital to pay back the
capital, because I understandwhere certain people who are in
business like hold on, I gottastill be taxed.

(15:54):
You know how much tax I paid outthroughout the year for shit.
Like just breaking this downfor you freedom speakers, when
you ever you get to hear yourjob complain, or you at your job
and you complaining about howmuch your check was.
Like, imagine we paid a grossof all of that.
You're like, oh my, no, he tookhome two bands.
I would have been 30, 33.
It's like we paid 33.

(16:15):
Yeah, yeah, motherfucker, Iwant to cuss.
So bad man.
I'm working on my language.
But it make you want to know.
But, but B word, you like me.
Fuck this man.
I said for you Bitch, thank you, thanks.
Now the company most definitelygot to pay for certain things on
behalf of you.
You know federal taxes orSocial Security, medicaid, all

(16:35):
of those taxes, and then youknow all of those other things.
So it comes with the territory.
But that's still an expense.
An employee will always, inmost industries, be the most
expensive expense that the jobhas.
Not only are you paying themper hour or salary, whatever
that may be, you're payingunemployment, workman's comp,

(16:57):
you're paying so many things toprotect them.
On top of, you're paying forhealth insurance if you offer
that.
And then you turn around and getspit in the face, sometimes
like the job doesn't care aboutme, like what the fuck?
And then we're still a smallbusiness.
And then you walk around andyou see these people.
They just mad at you becauseit's the easiest.
You didn't pay me enough.

(17:17):
Like, who told you to get a 29interest on your fucking car
note from that buyer payer, likethey call you to verify your
employment.
They know, hey, we know you gotthat terrible ass fucking deal.
We know, man, but that Idigress on giving that.
Don't digress that businessrant of like hey, man, it's,
it's money.
You got to learn how to controlit.

(17:37):
We can't I tell them people hey, man, this is where we get our
money from the bank.
Let's, let me teach you andshow you how to have a good
relationship with the bank.
Clean up your credit, just likeI did of hey, when I started
getting into the game of tryingto get my credit right, I had to
clean up whatever was on thedelinquency.
That's number one Freedomspeakers.
Clean up whatever on yourcredit.
That's delinquent.

(17:58):
Pay Time Warner Cable.
Pay that light bill.
Pay JD Byrider, whatever thefuck you owe.
You owe boosts from six yearsago.
Pay them, because the way thecredit world look at it, let
that shit fall off.
It might quote unquote fall off.
Or if they resell the debt tosomebody, it start all over
again.
No, it's not, it's get theseniggas.
They $237.
That's all it is.

(18:19):
It don't be that much, bro.
It don't be that fucking much.
Don't be that much, bro.
It don't be that fucking much.
Get them motherfuckers theirmoney.
Man, oh man.
I remember real quick nostalgiamoment, y'all.
That's all it is.
I remember getting my ass beatbecause I answered the phone for
a bill collector at the houseand my mama had it like hey,
don't you let them know I'm here?

(18:39):
But the bill collectors gotslick so they used to ask like
hey, can I speak to Mrs Johnson?
And you'd be like, oh, she'snot here right now.
I'd take a message.
But now it was like hey, can Ispeak to Kim?
And I'm like, oh, my bitch here, go right here.
So she get on the phone likehello, they're like you bitch,
who was fucking?
You, motherfucking, keeprunning from us.
You keep motherfucking runningfrom us.

(19:10):
Sit in front of your back.
She hung up the phone and cameand beat my man.
I thought that was auntie onthe phone.
I thought that was such a sense.
She like you bought the eggs.
I'm like you should just paythese people, hey, man, hey,
these people, why you mad at me?
I don't owe them, pay them,them fucking people, they money,
man, so we can sleep at night.
I'm crying, man, but bruh, thatjust took me back for a second

(19:33):
man.
I'm sorry, man, we back Getgetting fucked up because you
owe people.
You're safe here, thank you.
Thank you, I need to reach you.
You're safe here.
I need to read you Save it.
No, that's wild, but that's allit be.
Like you even saying a numberlike $237.
That is something veryinsignificant, especially when
it comes to something that'slike fucking up your financial

(19:55):
attractor, it's fucking upsomebody fucking with you,
because I got shit on mine whereit's like all right, I got it.
Now it ain't $237.
But it's still, you know, doenough to where it's like
alright, let me, let me knockthis shit on.
You know what I'm saying and ifyou use, you know we ain't got
no sponsors y'all, but you knowCK, karma Credit, y'all say it

(20:18):
backwards Karma Credit, welooking for sponsors, we looking
for holla at us Credit Karma.
But like I really love that'show I really like got in my
business through them, throughlike experience, really digging
into this shit to see likewhat's there.
And it was a tool that was veryuseful, you know, because this
shit didn't exist 12 years ago,before, like phones really came

(20:39):
to a different level.
Now you have your credit scorein your hand.
Remember, it used to be a hardinquiry for you to even know
what your shit was.
It's like your credit was asecret from you, like you don't
fucking know.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't know.
You just gambling.
I think I'm good, let me go tryto buy a car, you don't know.
Two years ago when I tried toget that car, I was like 6'20".

(21:00):
You know.
But now you have your creditscore in your hand give or take,
because sometimes it may be notnot so accurate, but you have
an idea.
Your credit karma is usuallylower.
Yeah, what your credit score is.
So if you win like a six higher, no, it's normally lower.
Credit karma is like 40 pointsoff, at least for me.
I thought they were saying likeCredit Karma is like 40 points

(21:23):
more than what your actual, atleast what your FICO would be.
Nah, it's about less.
If that's the case, nigga, Ifeel really good about myself.
40 points is fucking lifechanging to me.
Just got our credit pulled fordoing hard money loans or the
investment properties, and keepin mind this too, like I'm no
credit guru so I could be off.

(21:44):
But you have a credit, anindividual credit score for like
a lot of things.
An individual credit score for,like finance or insurance, car
loans, stuff like that.
So when they put our credit forus to get the equity loan, the
home loan credit score is 813.
Solid 800 Credit score is 813.

(22:08):
Solid 800 plus.
On Credit Karma, I'm 748.
Wow, okay, I don't know.
You know that's what I heard,but it's a direct pull from the.
It's a direct pull from theTransUnion or whatever.
Yeah for sure, that's right.
Credit Karma is like we want youto keep working on your shit.
But if you in 700s and CreditKarma, like you probably like
750, 750.
Because it's okay, bro, when Iget these items off my shit, I

(22:29):
ain't about to have y'all all inmy business, you know.
But when I yo, I like I'mbecoming addicted to it.
So, like almost to the point towhere it's like, you know, like
saying I'm hopping on that CK.
Like hey, let me see where I'mat and I can't wait because I've
done some things this pastmonth where I can't wait to see.

(22:49):
Maybe not one month, you know,from now, but you know you're
going to update.
You know monthly, most of thetime when you know shit gets
reported, you know what I meansaying.
When that account shows up, myuh, you know my credit
utilization will go down becauseI opened a new account.
Shit like that.
It's like I want to see and feelhow this shit working.

(23:11):
Like I told you last week, it'sa lot of shit that we only just
now learning and even if welearned it five years ago, we're
only now implementing a lot ofthis shit that we learned or
having a chance to five yearsago.
We're only now implementing alot of this shit that we learned
or having a chance to.
So I remember and I told youthis story last week um, I

(23:32):
remember when I was 18, I got aum, I got a loan to go to school
.
Um, my mother told me she's likeall right, be careful, you
treat your credit like gold.
That's what she told me, whichis like great advice, but no
information on how do you treatyour credit.
Like what does that mean?

(23:52):
Yeah, yeah, what does that mean, how do I do that?
You know I'm saying like what'sthe what's the tricks of the
trade?
You know I'm saying like what,what do I need to know?
You know.
But uh, but getting into thisshit, man, I can't wait.
Like you know what I'm saying.
Like our oldest boys is 12.
Yeah, you know, that's a lotcloser to adulthood than being
babies, right?

(24:13):
So I'll tell you this realquick, just with the age thing
and learning, just certaincredit things and tax things and
business things and, like Isaid, I'm a user of it.
I'm not a.
I only can give my story.
I'm not a person who sellsthese products or anything like
that.
Don't judge us.
We learning very much.
So students of the game, people, students of the game I'm gone,

(24:35):
but students of the game, so Idid learn little things of of
credit.
So now that the boys are well KJis 12 and Lo is 12, we can be
able to put authorized usersmost definitely on the card,
authorized users for the boys onthe card, and we can be able to
open them up like stockaccounts that us as parents

(24:57):
still open and manage and thingslike that, so that we can be
able to do that and up to usrunning a business, we can put
up to $12,000 funds likepaycheck-style funds for the
child, untaxed.
Now, don't quote me 100% onthat, but that's what I see.
We in Ohio, yeah, we in Ohio,we in Ohio, that's one of them

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accounting conversations Like,hey, you can put your son on
there, it might be seven or itmight be 12, but it's normally
in between there.
If like, hey, this can be youknow what?
I think it is 12 because sevenis normally for the uh hsa
accounts.
That's normally like the healthsaving account.
So, listen, so like, because wesee memes about this and the
shit is funny.
You ever seen the meme whereit's got like a line of children

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who are clearly like five andunder but they got on like
construction vests and thecaption says when you 18, but
your new job, looking for you tohave 10 years of experience,
you got to start when you likefucking eight.
So keep in mind this is whylabor laws is in play, because

(25:59):
even now, if you go to probablyyour local Chinese Vietnamese
restaurant and maybe even someof the Mexicans, because they
need to keep the kids in theback in the Mexican, the Chinese
, when you go in there and cook.
They got them kids in therecooking and maybe taking your
order, but it's like, hey, youneed to learn how to function in
society now.

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Yeah, I can't wait 18 yearslater for you to be like, okay,
you've learned enough.
But I see that's kind of liketheir culture.
So let me ask you this when itcomes to you know pretty much,
being able to put your child onpayroll is what you're saying,
mm-hmm.
So when it comes to that, whenit comes to credit not like job
history, but credit, becausesometimes credit how long you

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had your job and how much youmake it shows that's another
part of stability how long youbeen working there Three weeks.
So I'll say this Keep your,keep your spot.
If Vanessa and I've been on ourjobs 11, 12 years, we may got a
credit card that's 15 years old.
If we add our child on there asan authorized user, that credit
history becomes their credithistory Right.

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So that advances them to belike, okay, we can extend this
line of credit after this personor to other people who loan
looking for them or this personto start applying.
It's like, oh, they probablygot so much years of credit.
So we talking about at thispoint 20, 21 year old black
children not getting in overtheir head but becoming
homeowners because they'veestablished credit early, 10

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years ago.
That's solid, and it's somethings that's just not taught to
us, man, and that's okay.
So this is where we take somedays and be like, hey, man, we
can talk about everything upunder the sun, but the premise
is still family man, businessman, entrepreneurship.
I need my son to know certainthings about the world.

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So this brings me to aconversation we had.
Not just the city, the world,the world.
Craig, okay, you can't be usingthe Lord to sell pussy on the
corner like that late OF goingto probably fade out in about
six, seven years.
Fuck you, af.
So you can't be doing that.
So, but he was, we was talkingthe other day and he was just
like asking about money, likeyou know how to make money.
Yeah, he asked about working atMcDonald's.

(28:10):
Mcdonald's makes $13, $14 anhour and this was his, this was
his mindset.
He was like if I were to workthere now, you know I wouldn't
really like have any money money, he's like.
But if I was like a grownup andand I had like bills and I like

(28:31):
rent or I like kids.
He's like life would be hard ifI worked at like mcdonald's.
So now we breaking down likelayers and leadership and like,
hey, man, you can work with me,you'll be like a district
manager.
He was like I only see thepeople at the register, you know
what I'm saying.
But he giving us his story.
We now arguing with him.
But he like I'm like okay, sowhat do you feel like you want
to do to make money?
He was like well, you know, Iwant to be an actor.

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I think I want to do contentcreating.
He was like I want to be like anews anchor.
He's like I want to be able tolike read.
I'm so proud of him.
If I'm having a vision ofreally what he wanted, he can
explain to me that.
I can see it and I'm like man,this nigga going to be a
newscaster.
He's got everybody out there inthe fucking hurricanes.

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Back to you, john.
Back to you, kj, kj, going tobe in studio.
Oh yeah, that guy is prettybrave, he's going to be in
studio.
In studio, oh yeah, that guy ispretty brave, he'll be in
studio.
And other news hey, good luckto you, john, stay dry.
Yeah, but I was proud of that,like okay, okay, cool.
So he was like, well, I can makemoney doing it.
He was like it doesn't looklike.

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It's like hard work, like I cando that, so it's not hard to me
.
And he was like they're only onTV for like a little while.
He's like, but I think theymake good money.
They got to be popular, nicesuits and shit.
He got envisioned out, bro, andI'm just sitting there like,
tell me more, man, tell me more.
So mom and I, nessa and I, justbreaking down to him like you

(29:58):
can go work at McDonald's, youcan go do anything you want, bro
, you have your parents havebuilt options for you.
Yeah, you can come work with us, you can come do this.
You can go to acting school,you can go to college, you can
go to trade school, bro.
But I'm like you go to military, you can go anywhere you want.
I'm like, but it's things laidout for you.

(30:19):
Like right now, man, he got thevending machines for his dad
yet, but he working on savingthe money.
So right now he cutting thegrass Remember he cutting grass?
Another proud moment I had ofhim of he like hey, man, dad,
can I cut the grass with you?
Before he used to be like do Ihave to cut the grass?
He's like yeah, this just ain'teven.

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I remember telling him I'msorry.
I even gave you a choice.
Yeah, go put your shoes on.
Come help me cut this goddamngrass.
Play shoes, not the new ones Ijust got.
Stop fucking playing, becauseyour mama going to be mad.
You shoot the green.
You take them shoes.
Green man, that's dope man,that's dope man.

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But learning that man, I can't,just I don't feel good
harboring it for myself.
So I most definitely feed youlike bro.
Hey, man, this is so even on thecredit side of things.
Pay off the little shit onthere that you owe 230 cents.
Apply for credit, just apply.
You want more money?
Apply for it.

(31:21):
Hey, in most places you wouldprobably get approved.
Yeah, but if you know also, theother part of it is you know,
if you know your credit ain'tgood like if you ain't, if you
ain't 650s, you can't just beapplying shit, all with it.
You're gonna get denied.
You're gonna have theminquiries on your credit and the
inquiry can drop your creditbetween like four and seven
point, and that's a lotdepending on where you at.

(31:43):
Now, if you're going to get it,of course it's still going to
be your inquiry, but you got thecredit.
Inquiry, stay on your creditfor, I believe, two years, about
two years, two years.
But if you know your creditain't good, contractor, go on
and apply and don't get in overyour head.
So that's another part of it.
Man, so giving you moneywithout financial literacy or

(32:09):
how to spend money, with somemanagement and budgets, you just
digging yourself into a hole?
Yeah, so I give you this man.
Did you see those peoplerecently that were striking at
like the ports?
Yeah, I did.
Do you know?
Most of them, on average, make$102,000 a year.
Wow, wow, we in Ohio.
That's great money, that'sreally good money.

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That's top 1% of the world.
Yeah, a lot of people don'trecognize that.
When you talk about six figures,yeah, even though six figures
can range between $100,000 and$999,000, people don't make that
much money.
Don't make six figures more atthe average, family makes about
655 to 65 000 families.

(32:51):
Yeah, don't make six figures.
Husband and wife don't make six, even if you are a professional
.
See.
So, for example, you've gotsome nurses that's doing great
and things like that, but theymay still only bring home 65 75
000 a year, not including,however, their deductions are,
their taxes, their portions ofinsurance.
They may pay all of thosethings, you know so, but seeing
that, like, hey, that companypays each one of them people

(33:15):
particularly between like 100kon top of whatever insurance
they have, on top of whateverother health benefits they have,
retirements, all kind of thingsfor them to, you know to strike
.
So I understand the unfairthings, but as a businessman,
I'd be like, hey, yeah, you seeboth you.
So I say this you striking likethat leads way to automation.

(33:39):
Leads way to automation, lead away like hold on, you don't
want to work.
You know how much money we payfor you to be able to do here,
how much we care for you to behere.
Remember you making a hundred,something, hundred thousand
dollars somewhere in the world,wherever it might be, might not
be that much, but we gotta comeoff of more money because of

(34:00):
your life, expect your lifeexpenses.
You can't trim no fat.
Remember we talking now abouttrimming fat and we business
owners Cut the Netflix.
So it's like, hey, bro, all ofthat, bro, mine is just cutting
the Netflix.
I didn't even tell you what Iwas trimming, but just telling
you how I've been saving orhaving some cushion on applying

(34:21):
for credit, making myselfattractive and even seeing on
the business side of things oflike, hey man, the money gotta
come from somewhere, fromsomebody, the clients or
whatever it is that you're doingyour insurance, your whatever,
whatever it is on how you bringthe money in.
It's almost insulting to thecompany when you start demanding
that shit, yeah, and it's like,hey man, we already shucking

(34:42):
out or doing this and doing thaton top of already building or
keeping up with the masses orwhatever it may be to keep you
to have your hand out, and it'slike, hey, that shit almost
disrespectful, yeah, and youknow, on top of that, like and I
don't even know if you wantthis out there, but this is just
what I know you know, as far asour industry, shout out to

(35:03):
therapeutic relations, becauseon a dsp level, therapeutic
relations is paying more thananybody.
We're talking larger companiesaround here, yeah, yeah, where
folks ain't tapping into, oh,y'all pay that much really.
And in health care industry, uh, freedom speakers, and this may
be nationwide, but we're in thestate of ohio.
Shout out to, uh, cleveland.
Shout out to the.

(35:23):
Shout out to the Guardians.
Shout out to the Browns yeah,we'll talk, you know.
Shout out to the Cavs, you know, we always got to listen to
that.
But for home health work, directcare caregivers, almost
anything that you don't have tohave a state license for, such
as like state testing, nursingassistant or LPN RN, Most of

(35:45):
those range sometimes between onthe lower end between maybe $13
to $15 an hour, and thensomewhere in the mid or
competitive range is somewheremaybe between $15 to $17 an hour
.
You got some years ofexperience CPR, first aid, med
passing certain things that youneed to have to work in the
caregiver industry.

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So we're starting just at$18.50.
Okay, $18.50.
All the way up to $21 an hourbased on years of experience,
managerial.
Some people, hey, they don'twant to work in a stressful
nursing home environment anymore, so they still have other

(36:26):
credentials.
That's why they come in higher.
They have other furthereducation.
You know what I'm saying and asan entrepreneur man, I push that
shit so much.
People got their hand outlooking for shit.
It's like, hey, you want tomake more money, one go either
go, go apply for it, go applyfor some credit some money at
the bank somewhere, somewherelike that.
Work more hours at your job,further your education, make

(36:48):
yourself better, make yourselfan asset.
You know I'm saying, or step upin leadership somewhere within
your, the company, forresponsibility.
Those are the quickest ways tobe able to make more money.
You gotta sacrifice probablysomething somewhere, yeah, some
time, some energy, but you, youdoing it with a purpose, you
just not doing it to get by.
You got a goal.

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You know I'm saying that's what?
Yeah, man, keep it going, man.
So that's just the transparencythat I have of it, of like, hey
, man, I, I can't be keep beingpulled in different directions
because life happened to you asit happens to me.
That's, that's a, that's a partof the board, that's across the
board.
So it's difficult to feelsympathetic towards somebody's

(37:29):
personal situation, knowing theywill never feel sympathetic
towards mine.
They won't, they don't have to,they don't have to, and that
becomes a mutuality, like Idon't have to be sympathetic to
that.
But because, hey, what we may,it's easy to say the job don't
care.
It's like, man, your baby daddyshould care more.

(37:50):
Okay, your spouse shouldfucking care more.
You should choose a better car.
You should choose a betterfucking spouse.
You should choose a betterplace to fucking live.
Choose a better way to spendyour goddamn money.
Choose better people that youhelp to loan shit, that don't
get shit back.
Like, don't blame the job man,don't do that, nah.
And if you ain't got nobreathing room of like, got a

(38:13):
little bit of credit, a littlebit of this.
You will save a lot ofrelationships not having to
argue with people about thatfunky 40-ass dollars that you
borrowed.
Have a better relationship withthe bank.
Have the bank be your friend.
Freedom speakers.
I promise you oh, that's a bar.
Had a bank be your friend.
I promise you They'll give youa grace period, they'll give you
time.
They'll even be like hey, youknow, they'll help you

(38:33):
consolidate your shit.
Yeah, they give you good advice.
Remember, it's still their jobto get so many accounts open, so
many, everything open, so many,everything open.
Man, and I learned that from mydude Dat, my dude Dat, my dude
Dat Gotta say the whole thing,the Cree.
He's high alumni man.
He would feed me information,man, about the bank.

(38:54):
And I'm just asking like hey,bro, this is where I'm sitting
at, man, what do I need to doFirst thing?
He used to always say, like man, make yourself attractive, make
yourself fucking attractive.
Pay off shit, start gainingsome assets, put some shit into
an IRA, but just little shitthat helps you leverage later on
in life.
So I'm like I would listen towomen.
I would try to find me a bankerand find you multiple banks.

(39:15):
Remember it's still competitionwithin the banks.
Who's your favorite bank Rightnow?
I like Hard Money Lending.
Right now I like Harmony Linden.
Right now I like Harmony Linden.
I like Harmony Linden.
Pause, pause.
But I got really goodrelationships with Huntington.
I got really good relationshipswith PNC.

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One of the branch managers atthe PNC where I live, scott.
Shout out to Scott, I don't knowif this is for the show or not,
but he introduced me into anetworking group of all these
other great professionalindividuals who I really needed
to tap back into now and buildfurther relationships,
especially in the otherentrepreneurial direction that
I'm going.
But these are people who allpractice certain levels of

(39:58):
business that it's like, hey, Ineed to level up my life, but
just humbly practicing.
Everybody does real estate.
Everybody owns something Two,three apartments or you know, I
got some tenants I got to evict.
Can you help me write upsomething?
I'll file it for you.
But it's like, damn everybodyjust attractive in their own way

(40:19):
of what they bringing and whatthey doing.
But when I would go, they wouldall kind of be all at me and
I'll be telling them like, hey,this is what I'm doing, this is
what I got going on, blah, blah,blah, woo, woo, woo, this, that
woo, woo.
And they'd just be sittingthere like, wow, man, you're
fucking incredible.
Man, this is incredible.
But Sky built up this personaof me, of me just telling him

(40:40):
like, hey, man, this is what I'mdoing in business.
This is what I think of theteam I'm on staff.
This is what I'm trying to pushand produce.
This is what I think of theclients.
This is what we do.
We're in health care.
We actually give a fuck.
We're at therapy.
Yeah, we care.
Nice, we do it, we do it, we doit.
People will want to help youbecause of your passion of what.

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They didn't even see my money.
They didn't care about themoney at the bank.
They got all of it there.
Okay, they, like you, ain't gotthat much money.
Nigga you here asking for money, all right, so, but it was like
hey, I'm going to introduce youto some other people that can
help put you where you want togo.
Yeah, I want to help you.
And that's what it's about, man.
That's what it's about Like,hey, I want to help you.

(41:23):
It ain't what you know, it'swho you know.
So shout out to Scott at PNCBank, at Berea Branch.
I'll be to the networking group, probably this week.
There you go.
Solid man, solid.
Hey.
Let's take a quick commercialbreak and we're going to move
into sports.
For sure, bro, that was forsure bro.
So that was solid though, man.

(41:43):
But that was the.
That was the ted talk on fun.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey, that was, that was great.
You can cut this little shitout, but that was great, that
was fucking great.
So both of our teams took a l.
Hold on, let's not start thisoff like that.
Okay, all right, because let'sgo, guardians, let's go.
I, let's go.

(42:03):
I'm so fucking proud.
Hold up.
What time is game one?
Game one is today.
Hold up, y'all.
We might have to go.
Wait a minute, hold up.
Shout out to the guards.
Man we took out.
Detroit came back.
The series started looking ugly.
Oh, they come on at 738 tonight.
Okay, not 730.
7 tonight, okay, not 7.30.
7.38.
7.38.

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Hey, that's very precise.
Alright, this my one F-bomb forthe day.
Fuck the Yankees, okay, themgoddamn Yankees, some Yankees,
you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, this the matchup I wanted, you know, and we can take them
, man, we can take them.
They got man, new York got somebats, but we got some balls.
Balls, now, that means you knowhitters and pitchers, you know

(42:46):
baseball talk.
But hey, man, let's go, let'sgo.
Guards, man, I'll be watching,I'll be watching man.
So definitely, good luck to theguardians.
Man, permission to speak freely.
We behind you, we staying withyou.
And let's go, let's go, baby,let Buckeye.
It was Ohio State Buckeye,allegedly a $20 million roster

(43:13):
that was paid through NIL to getgood players retain good
players.
A lot of our seniors andjuniors who were draft eligible
came back Like, hey, man, we gotto beat Michigan, we ain't got
no Big Ten title, we ain't gotno championship, we going to
leave like this, hell, no, wecoming, we're coming back and
we're about to get it done.
We go out there.

(43:35):
Bucks versus ducks, man had anight.
You know.
Hey, it's a good ring to it.
I've heard about the.
You know we had to fly to oregon, man, that's clear across the
country.
And hey look, I ain't here tomake no excuses, man.
I thought and this is what Iknow, man, they left on Friday.
They left on Friday.
Games on Saturday, 7.30 pm ourtime.

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That's 3.30 Oregon time.
West Coast time, pacific.
Let's be specific, pacific tobe specific.
I feel like they should haveleft on Thursday.
Get more of the jet lag out,you know, but you got, hey, man,
you got Chip Kelly over there,you know.
Or give advice, man, go ahead,leave on Friday.
It is what it is, man.
We go out there.
First series man looking prettydecent man.

(44:20):
I will be honest.
If there's any Oregon fans outthere, yes, that was an
interception.
Yeah, if there's any Oregonfans out there, yes, that was an
interception.
Yeah, I'm with y'all.
I don't have you know what I'msaying fan goggles.
Oh, no, no, it wasn't.
No, that was a pick.
That was a pick, it was.
I thought it would have been,but hey, I was happy it wasn't
called a pick.
Let's move on.

(44:41):
Bucks, looking good, lookinggood, getting decent man.
Second drive man, we get outthere.
We fumble, you know, losemomentum, you know a 7-7, man.
But back and forth game.
The Ducks man, they miss afield goal, they go for two a
little further down the line.
They don't get that.
So that's two points, threepoints left off the board.

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But we talking about powerhouseversus powerhouse.
Yeah, we talking about, youknow, an unstoppable force
Meeting an immovable object.
Yeah, that's what we saw OnSaturday night.
That's why the score was,that's why it was so Back and
forth.
Oh, they up, now we up, they up, now, we up, they up, now we up

(45:25):
, they up, now we trying to getup.
And there was some poor clockmanagement, if you ask me, by
coach day at the end of the game.
I understand we was in good,good position, good field
position.
I understand that.
The confidence in the team.
It's like hey, you know, are wegoing for the touchdown when we
just need a field goal?
But let's try to make thisthing as close as possible.
We had three timeouts, at leastclose as possible.

(45:47):
We had three timeouts, at leasttwo, but I believe we had three
timeouts going into that drivewhen it got to, because in
college they have a two-minutewarning.
Now they called it thetwo-minute timeout, but it's a
two-minute warning.
Now we have three timeouts, butwe're just letting the clock go
and go and go.
We're, however, far down, youknow what I'm saying, but we're

(46:08):
just letting the clock go and goand go.
Will Howard fall down?
Okay, that's a sack.
Now we got to, you know.
Oh, my goodness, the stadium man, buckeye fans man, we got to
get louder when we out there inour field because that 12th man
you know what I'm saying itmatters, it's a factor.
If the offensive line receivers, if they can't hear the snap

(46:29):
count, they got to be looking atthe ball and waiting, but if
they think they hear something,they didn't.
Was that one, was that two,because the crowd is so loud.
On top of, I'm pretty sure it'sillegal to pump crowd noise
into the stadium through, likethe speakers and I'm not saying
Oregon do that.
But it get loud, it get loud.

(46:49):
I was at a Buckeyes game earlythis season and it got loud, it
got loud.
We putting up it got louder,putting up 93 decibels or
whatever.
But like yo, like we can,really, let's shake this up.
Let's shake this up, man.
But ultimately we took the L.
However, ultimately we took theL.
However, I'm proud of my team.
I'm a Buckeyes fan.
I got to tell you, bro, I gotthe Brutus, the Buckeye, in my

(47:10):
man cave.
You hooked it up now.
Oh shit, hang on, I'm going toshow you real quick.
I'm going to show you realquick.
My man got the Brutus.
I went over to Giant Eagle toget because I made chili, shit
was bomb.
And I saw him sitting over bythe Diet Cokes and shit.
I'm like damn, that brood isgoing to look good in my

(47:31):
bathroom.
And he got the big ass brood.
Oh, yeah, he's like four feet.
No, he's like 5'10".
Oh, he's standing from theground.
You know how my windows?
Yeah, he's on the ground, he'sall the way on the ground.
He's about like 5'11", 6 feet,solid on the ground.
He by like five, six feet.
I like that man.
So after I get my little stuff,man, I go to the.
I'm about to leave and I say,excuse me, sir, are you the

(47:52):
manager?
He's like no, but I can get himfor you.
I said no, you might be able toanswer my question.
So it's a really cool.
Oh, those things get smashed upand compressed and sent to
someone.
So I'm like, can I have it?
Can I rescue this brood?
Can I have it?
Uh, he's like, yeah, when we'redone with it, I see no reason

(48:12):
why we can take your number.
You call the other manager overthere.
He's like, yeah, leave yourname and number, we'll give you
a call.
And they end up calling meduring the end of the guardians
game, like, hey, yeah, I spoketo what was his name?
Oscar spoke to oscar.
He, you know, we had it longenough so you can come and get
it.
I'm like, hey, I'll be thereright after the Guardians get
this win For sure and winning.
Guy Brutus, man, put him in thetrunk.

(48:33):
Love went with it.
We brought him on home.
Man, my wife saw that shit.
She like, because freedomspeakers, man, y'all ain pretty
nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you asked me,and there's some.
You know there's some.

(48:53):
I really like your man k,because the shit is really like
a cave.
It's outside.
You gotta go do some shit toget there.
You know I'm saying yeah, andwe're here.
You know I'm saying it'ssecretive, it's a way it's off
to the side where my shit youknow.
But but it's, I put it together.
You still ain't seen the way Iorganized.
No, no, no, I'll be comingthrough for some whiskey and
cigars, but ultimately, man,ohio state, we took the l?

(49:18):
Um.
I don't believe in moralvictories.
Come on, we got a 12 teamplayoff.
Now we'll be fine, we'll befine.
We're going to beat Penn State,we're going to beat Michigan
and we're going to move into theBig Ten.
You know title, with one lossand maybe Ohio State, oregon

(49:38):
again.
We'll see, we'll see.
And I wish we was playing themagain like today, because I
believe we'll win.
They was doing like littletricky shit.
Ohio State Pretty much untilthe last drive, we was pretty
much Scoring that wheel.
Besides a fumble, you know whatI'm saying, besides a.
Did we throw an interception Inthat game?
I'm not sure, but we wasmarching down the field Like,

(49:59):
head up, playing football.
Playing football, oregon.
They go to Kick the ball.
They end up hitting the blockerright in the chest.
Oh, now they got the ball back.
It was more like an onside kickin the middle of the game.
A little funny, little trickyshit.
Oregon was doing, respectfully,players head up, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, head up,without the funny shit we was

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marching down the field.
We got to get.
We got to get pressure on thequarterback.
I don't know, jim knows heain't really been a fan of
really pressuring thequarterback, like really getting
up in his mouth.
Pause, you know I'm saying he'sbeen more so like pressuring
from the outside and force himto stay in the pocket and stuff
like that.
It's kind of like no man, likesmack these niggas in the mouth,

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right, right, like like do thatsend the message?
Like do that?
Let's get aggressive, let'sreally shake them up, and we
just haven't been doing thatover the last couple of years.
But we took the L man.
Shout out to the Ducks man.
They did their thing.
I ain't mad, but I hope we seey'all again, be it a Big Ten
championship or a playoff or aplayoff or a playoff.

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So we shall see.
Man, at least we didn't go outthere and lose to Vanderbilt.
Shout out to Alabama.
God damn, yeah, I caught thelast of that game.
Yeah, tennessee lost toArkansas last week.
That was crazy.
Hey, we can lose to Oregon.
If Alabama can lose toVanderbilt and Tennessee can
lose to Arkansas.
We can lose to Oregon Anothergreat team, arkansas.

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We can lose to Oregon.
Another great team.
We can lose to a great team ifthey can lose to.
The minions of college football.
They called the who.
The minions, the minions ofcollege football, shout out to
them, man, good schools.
You got anything to touch onwhen it comes to that game, man,
did you watch?
Yeah, I watched a little bit ofit, man, but this past weekend
I was actually, I actually wentto, we was in Detroit.

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We went to go see the JasmineSullivan and October London and
Maxwell concert, which actuallywas a pretty impressive concert.
I felt real baller.
For a second man, tell us.
I got us some tickets, somefloor seats and I didn't really
recognize.
I'm not really good atpurchasing, I'm not a purchaser
but I cargo through.
Recognize, I'm not really goodat purchasing, like I'm not a

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purchase stuff, but I, like thecar, go through, but I'm not,
you know, good at knowing likebest seating in certain places.
You know I'm saying so.
When we got to the arena, um,you know, we, I'm showing on the
phone like hey, where's our,where's our seats, where our
seats?
And they kept me in like, ohyeah, you guys are down, you
guys are down.
So I took nessa on the date.
We dated in Detroit the weekend.
I took her on the date and wegot there Thursday and we ate

(52:31):
some wings and stuff from alocal spot, but then Friday we
got a, took her to breakfast aplace called the Jacket Fort,
took her shopping and we got.
We went back to the hotel, wegot dressed, we went to the
concert that night.
Then we went after the concert.
We tried to find a place to eat.
Only thing that was open was,like the TGI Fridays, so we got
some drinks and food from thereand then, you know, went back to

(52:53):
the room Saturday.
We flicking through channels,but we really flicking each
other.
I'm flicking her beans, sheflicking my pain, and we
enjoying each other Flickingpain, each other Flicky paint,
so, but we dating.
So I did catch some of the game, but I was, you know, playing
with the joystick.
Life gave me, you know, and theair controllers.

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I feel that, man, hey, that'sthe only buck you was trying to
get.
Yeah, I was trying to buck anut in my day is, though,
freedom speakers, um, and thisis mainly to the men.
For sure, you know, I'm mostdefinitely want to make sure
that I give, I direct theinformation to to the men hey,

(53:34):
man, step up a little bit onyour game of how you treat your
woman.
You know, I'm saying I get tohear a lot of times some of the
men they be like real whiny,yeah, a little bit of like how
they not getting certain thingsfrom their girl, and that comes
that.
But I've learned from my ownshit.
When you almost too nice, mynigga, when you just like I was

(53:54):
hoping and praying I could getsome punani, yeah, it's one of
them.
Like uh, nigga, what?
Uh, compared to like hold on,nigga, what you doing, I ain't
waiting.
And you just kind of muscling alittle bit, like hey, hey, hey,
hey, this is spontaneous, butbe more of yourself, take more
charge, take more lead man, youknow what no mean.

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So, hey, if you push theenvelope and she like, oh, no
man, I'm cool.
Or you, oh, okay, a little toodirty, A little too dirty, a
little too much, okay, but I hadto learn and it might not work
for everybody, but I suggest,like no man get, hey man, a lot
of these niggas out here ain'tgot girlfriends anyway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what Iheard.
They ain't got girlfriends, orthey?

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I say this man, this was one ofthe things they was saying.
I was called sassy.
They was, it's like you sassy.
Who the fuck called you sassy?
Some little random bitch that Icalled that's my second F-bomb
of the day Some little randombitch I called ma'am.
I'm like hold on, ma'am isn't afish Like you guess my gender.
So she called you sassy becauseyou called her ma'am and she
evidently was a bitch.

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That's what you ain't evendeserve.
That you assumed my gender.
You got titties poking out thatmotherfucking shirt and it ain't
fat sack titties.
That's wild man.
Them titties.
That's wild.
I'm like man.
Okay, what's she, what's she?
Were they a transgender?
I don't want to guess again, Idon't fucking know man, but it

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was one of them like.
So you really got it.
So she's like you're beingsassy.
I'm like, cause I got an esteemfor myself for a second.
How they about to let you justsay any bullshit to me.
That's wild.
I'm gonna chill that shit out,young sir.
Like man, sir, chill that shitthe fuck out.
That's wild man.
But it's shit like that.
I.
I didn't even take offense toit.
It was more so funny.
But I'm like, oh, thank you, man.
I'm like, oh, damn, I'm like,just take it and shut the fuck

(55:49):
up.
You know what?
I can't even say that though,because I'd be sorry.
You know, I have very handsomeboys, and when they were younger
they may be mistaken for beinglittle girls, even though they
got on a blue coat and a bunchof dinosaur shit on it.

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Yeah, ain't no princess, youknow fairy tales.
It's the pile eyelashes man toget him.
So I guess I can understand.
Man, oh, she's so pretty.
He's like.
He said thank you, thank you,right, yeah, so I get it.
Man, you know, freedom, we'renot here.
We're not here to be judgingstuff.
Yeah, I was just shocked of like, hey, man, this is getting real
loose with words.
I ain't had to trip on you likethat, though.
First off, I'm sassy becauseyou're not a sir.
Yeah, you're not a man, that'sjust wild.

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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,I'm like as man as it gets.
What are you talking about?
I'm like, man, you know what?
Can you just bag up my wine,please?
Yeah, that's wild.
So I ain't trip on that toomuch, but it was, is, is, when I
was called sassy.
It made me look at it like holdon first off, nigga I'm that's
just a new insulting word peopleuse now I don't really think

(56:53):
niggas are sassy or men aresassy.
I feel like men have an esteemfor themselves and they speaking
up.
So now you saying somethingabout yourself.
You could get called sassy forarguing with a chick who wants
to argue.
You sassy, you arguing with achick, that's what you say.
Because you're losing, becauseyou're losing, you bitch.
You baited me in, are you mad?
You just don't want me to sayshit.
There's some people who livefor chaos, they live for drama,

(57:15):
they live for that shit.
Man, yeah, man, I can't do it,man, so I try my best.
And this is to men hey, whenthat woman, your woman, get to
kind of just yapping sometimesjust look at her ass funny, like
just look at her dare her eyefunny.
When she get to like talkingbullshit, then pull your dick
out and start jacking off.

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You will shut down the argumentquick, quick.
You will shut down the argumentquick.
And for ladies, you want yourman to stop motherfucking,
yapping, pull his shit out andget the.
And, trust me, you will notonly calm that man the fuck down

(57:56):
.
You might get that credit cardif it ain't delinquent.
You won, you won.
He'll give you that $237.
Yeah, yeah, who are yousupposed to owe?
You owe Sprint from back whenyou was in high school.
Hey, bro, that was one of themmotherfuckers on my credit.
Like, hey, I owe Sprint, sprint, oh, time Warner, cable, them
niggas don't even exist.
They defunct like amotherfucker, bro.
Now you overriding.

(58:17):
Now they bought them niggas.
Yeah, yeah, I think they didget soaked up.
I love sprinting Sprint.
Stop running, nigga, stopsprinting, for sure, man.
So Freedom Speakers, we're hereto bring you information on
family, man, businessman,entrepreneurship, what it is in

(58:40):
the average man's daily life, ofhow we think, how we operate.
We're here to give informationto the men, to the women, but
most definitely for the men.
It's like, hey, bro, sharpen upa certain way.
Yeah, because we, yeah, we here, we got to do better, but what
you think overall?
Because we on social media nowyou know what I'm saying.
So we get a, we get an idea ofwhat manhood is looking like

(59:04):
across the board.
And not all of us representwell.
Not all of us represent wellman.
We got women taking care of us.
Driving her car.
I'm hearing like dudes ain't gotthey own cribs no more.
That's what I'm hearing outthere.
I'm glad you said that.
Yeah, man, talk to us.
I mean, we got to tighten up,right For sure.

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So I got some questions.
Yeah, okay, I got some shitthat I wrote down to Freedom
Speakers Bear with me, but I gotsome things that I feel like
for the men most definitely likehey, what is some shit that men
need to really make themselvesdesirable?
Credit, okay, money for sure.

(59:46):
Money, motherfucker for sure.
Money, motherfucker For sure.
You need the bands, bitch, youneed the bands.
Alright, so I got some shit.
Let me try to Make sure I findit, man, but A couple of the
things that we did talk aboutman One is so here go five
things that every man need.
Okay, five things Every man need.
Let me get my pen One, and Icome from a different time frame

(01:00:08):
, man.
So one first thing you're goingto need is some hustle and some
money about yourself.
You're going to need to get outthere and get you some money.
The money will be the muscle.
Get in your purpose.
Okay, the money will be themuscle of hey, I need to make
some shit move.
I need to make some shit happen.
I need to make some shit happen.
I got to keep grinding, I gotto show some hard work, some
dedication.
You getting you some moneythat's going to be able to get

(01:00:31):
some shit moving.
Two Nigga get you a means oftransportation.
Get you somewhere to be able togo.
You can kick it with the ladiesa little bit.
You can be like hey, I can meetyou at this bar, I can meet you
at this hotel, I can meet youat Joe's spot.
You know, whatever it may be,get you a means of
transportation.
Okay, after that.
My nigga three get you a toolbag.

(01:00:52):
Every nigga need a tool bag,bro.
If you got a car, not just saythat like what kind of tool we
talking here.
So I would suggest to get youjust a general tool bag.
Man, you got you some pliers inthere, flathead screwdriver,
for sure, for sure, I'm with youSome sockets.
But if you got you a car yougonna probably need on your own

(01:01:14):
shit.
Okay, just trying shit, butthat makes you become a problem
solver.
Like this nigga can problem,solve some shit.
Yeah, man, I remember when I wasin high school, man, I'm over
at the showroom apartment andI'm like you know, 16, 17,.
You know, little bathroomdoorknob was a little jiggly you
know what I'm saying and I wasable to.
Of course, I didn't have myshit, but you know, there was a

(01:01:34):
screwdriver nearby and I wasable to tighten that up, man,
and I was thanked.
I was thanked.
I don't know what our mamathought.
Who fixed this?
I did how she thank you, bro,help me with my own one Got an A
on my English.

(01:01:54):
I want to thank you.
I got an A.
Okay, man, so we got threethings so far.
First, get you a job, somemoney.
That most definitely get youthe muscle.
Two, get you a liable car, sometransportation.
Yeah.
Three would be you know too bad, be able to have you fix on
your shit.
Like you say some shit, dosomething.
Four would be like this is thegame changer.

(01:02:17):
Four is get you your own place.
I feel like every man shouldlive on his own for some
experience some time in his life.
Two, three, four years, live onhis own, get to learn his
self-hands with each level ofthese things that you step up
with bro, you attract adifferent style of woman.

(01:02:37):
I go to number five, that youstep up with bro, you attract a
different style of woman.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So I go to number five and thenI'm going to piece them all
together.
For sure we're listening, man,the women that are attracted to
these men who have these things.
All right.
So five would be you got tohave some style to yourself, be
able to dress, maybe apersonality, funny, something
along those lines that is like,hey, I can entertain this woman,

(01:02:59):
I can keep her attention beyondjust buying her things.
Yeah, you know I'm saying.
So.
That's five things I'm gonnarecap to me.
One had you a good job, somemoney can bring you in the bag.
Two, uh, had you a reliable cartransportation?
You can uber anywhere, if youcan get there.
Three have you, uh, a tool bag?
You fixing on shit?
You can you everywhere,motherfucker, if you can get
there.
Three have you a tool bag?

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You fixing on shit?
You can.
You can craft, you can hang uppictures and shit in our house.
While you knocking down walls,you hanging shit up on.
Mirrors and shit, mirrors andshit, like I'm gonna hit you
from the back from this nicemirror I just put up.
You got from Gabe, you know,you got your own spot.

(01:03:40):
You can be like hey, man, comeon over to me.
Oh girl, light some candles.
Baby, come on over to my placeand you ain't got to worry about
nothing.
You know, go to the number five,okay, okay.
And the number five is add, Iuse some style of some sort,
you'll be able to dress.
You got a good personality.

(01:04:00):
You know you're funny, man,you're charismatic, you know all
these things help play for thatwoman to be like okay, I can be
funny, I can fuck with that.
Or just on the third man.
So the women who are mostlyattracted to these things, all
right, that woman who so I'll goto number one, the woman who
see that man that got a job thatgot a little bit of money.

(01:04:21):
He might be.
She see him with a work uniformon.
You might like that.
That woman might be lookinglike hey, that nigga got dirty
nails, he got a work uniform on.
He at the grocery store, youknow what I'm saying?
He need a bitch to cook for him, because that come down to life
skills, for sure, for sure.
So this is the opportunity thatmost women, a lot of niggas,
just don't know how to shop.
Yeah, don't know how to shop.
Or they go to the corner store,not the grocery store.

(01:04:43):
Yeah, most of the DollarGeneral be having bread, buying
Takis and shit.
Nigga, get a meal, nigga, yeah.
Yeah, blue Bonnie, that'swhat's a domesticated type of
thing.
Man Like, hey, so you got you alittle job, you're making you
some money, but you're like, hey, you might not know how to cook
something, too much you can.
A woman will see that.
Some women will see that like,oh, yeah, he start cooking up

(01:05:04):
something to eat.
I press his work clothes forhim and he come home with a boom
, boom, boom.
You will attract certain womenlike that.
That's attracted to a man thatget up and go to work.
You know, know, I'm saying so.
Then the next man you got theyou know that, that dude who got
the reliable car, you canalways have some women who into
cars.
It can be classic car, you gottransportation.

(01:05:25):
You come pick her up.
It could be almost anythingyou're gonna have.
Hey, he can come get me, don'tmatter, kind of what it is.
Yeah, he, you know, as you getolder, man, you can't be pulling
up.
You know boo, boo, it can't be,it can't, can't be pulling up,
it can't be not reliable, itcan't not be reliable.
I got to say something man, goahead, because I like this list.
I like this list a lot and Ithink that list you know, like

(01:05:48):
everything.
You know one thing I say hey,gentlemen, you got to have at
least at minimum, at minimum,three solid meals.
That you know you can blaze theshit.
Yeah, I'm about to make her theso-and-so Three specials.
Nigga, you got to have at leastminimum three specials, all
right.
But I'm going to say this manabout that list man, these

(01:06:10):
ladies out here don't want thatdude you just described Word.
They don't want him.
They don't want the nigga who,on his own shit, he corny, he
corny, he corny.
He go to work.
He got shit together.
He know how to treat him.
She don't want him.
She don't want him, almost kindof like Bruh.
They want these days, man,these days, the dating pool got
piss and shit in it.

(01:06:30):
Ask around, ask around, freedomSpeakers.
Yo, what fecal matter have youseen?
Man, he's taking care ofbusiness man.
They see that.
Yeah, you call Sassy for pushingthe cart.
Nah, you gay, you pushing thecart, bitch, I'm about to get
$130 worth of groceries.
Bitch, should I call you poorfor using stamps?
Excuse my language, but nah,man, we in competition with the

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guy who really don't wantnothing for himself, the guy who
you know, she got to go get him.
She got to go get him.
He ain't really got.
He bouncing around jobs, man,and we know somebody like that
and we're not here to shit onhim.
And we're not here to shit onhim.

(01:07:20):
But you know that man is notforced, or even like just
subconsciously pressured, to gethis shit together.
You know why?
Because he getting pussy anyway.
Getting pussy anyway.
He getting pussy anyway.
Ladies, you got a job to do.
You want men to be better.
Stop giving pussy to the scrub.
Unqualified men don't deservepussy.
Because when you giveunqualified niggas pussy, it

(01:07:44):
blends the group of the niggaswho deserve pussy.
It blends it in.
You don't know who you shouldbe fucking Now.
You got to take care of him.
Now he done.
Next thing, you know, you gavethe nigga a drawer and a
toothbrush Now he live here.
Now he a toothbrush Now he livehere.
Now he live here.
Now he live here Now.
Look, we ain't talk.
Look, listen to me.

(01:08:05):
We came a long way.
We came a long way.
Now listen to me, because wegot to put these different
levels to this shit.
We not talking about the, youknow, the 20, the 20 to 24 year
old.
I was going to say 25.
We ain't talking about the 20to 24 year old.
That's the time where you mighthave to sling some pins.
Hey, man, I got to eat.
I got to eat and I got to eat.

(01:08:26):
But at some point, where doesthe motivation kick in to get
your shit together?
If you're getting everythingyou want from a woman and you
getting your shit excused?
Yeah, like you playing a violinfor this bitch?
Yeah for sure.
Oh, you know he's like come on,I can help him, I can save him,
I can change him.
He need me.

(01:08:47):
I got it.
So, but when?
But after 25, when will it kickin?
If you're like, man, I ain'ttrying to fuck with me, where,
when is the motivation?
Because throughout time, way,beginners of humanity, the
motivation for men to get outthere and make something happen.
You know I'm saying was I wantsome pussy, I want some.

(01:09:12):
You know, that's that's what itis.
So but if he, but if he gettingit, if the ladies, it's like
I'm gonna mess with him anyway,cause he got a, he got a hog on
him.
You know, you know what I'msaying.
But hey, bro, I gotta, I gottatake care of you, I gotta you
can't even buy some pasta inthis bitch, yeah, yeah.
So I'll say this man, you can't, you can't put.

(01:09:34):
Like, you know, take care ofthat, take care of that Rent for
a couple more years.
I went on down to the officeand paid Apartment three on.
Yeah, I went on and, you know,paid it for next month.
So we ain't got it.
So, freedom speakers, when wetalking strictly to them, men,
for a second man, talk to theseladies.
I'm going to them too.
Logo said I'm gonna talk tothem too.

(01:09:55):
But I want to, I want to get agame to the men first of like,
hey, you, you uh ain't no c likeI mean, I ain't, I don't care
what the relationship is, man orgoing with the flow, man,
because most women you're gonnahear say they don't, we just go
with the flow.
He the man I want to lead,that's fine.
Hey, ain't no c cell withoutnavigation, my nigga, it's a
fact.

(01:10:15):
So we can be going with theflow, but we going this way, all
right, we going over here.
So I always step to that manfirst, like hey, man, I ain't
telling you to be disrespectful,but I'm telling you to let some
nuts hang.
Make some decisions, man, putsome things into play.
Sometimes you just got to do it.
I ain't met too many women whohaven't chunked up and said well

(01:10:38):
, he, the man I was justfollowing him, compared to you,
got some of the women, as youstated, they feel like they got
to take the direction because heisn't, and then mad at the man
that they can't direct becausehe already know where he going.
You can't fool him, you can'tmake him believe you invented
him because he know what he is.
That's a fact.

(01:10:58):
Yeah, this is true.
So that man that, as you stated,man, the woman used to be the
prize and be the motivation ofwhy that man got up every day.
And then, when they builtchildren, they amplified the
signal of not only do I need tohouse and take care of my woman,
which is a braggadocious thingto men of, like hey, I can make

(01:11:19):
life easy for you.
Compared to you and the kids,compared to that woman got to be
working double and tripleshifts or very indecisive.
And I know you gave the numbersof like 20 to 25, bro, I go
like even to 27.
Some niggas is late bloomers,but at that point let's say at
25, you got to have a littlespark, like all right, because

(01:11:40):
at the moment when you realizeit's gonna take some time for
you to like put shit in the play, you know what I'm saying.
So when you hit that 25thbirthday, like that night,
something gotta click.
That frontal lobe developed.
Now it's time to go.
You can't, you can't.
You can't blame mommy and daddy, not at all.
You can't, can't hold themaccountable for your own

(01:12:01):
decisions, especially if you outhere making moves on your own,
you standing up in your owndecisions.
You feel me.
So I understand the differentroles of that man having to grow
himself.
But I fully agree with you Like, hey, bro, gotta something
gotta go off.
You can't be living on on pasthype, not at all.

(01:12:23):
You can't be.
You can't be living off of youknow old dreams.
You can't be um, what's themovie?
Napoleon dynamite?
You can't be, uh oh, like theuncle.
Yeah, yeah, I used to throw afootball a quarter mile.
You know that you don't think,but it's one of my hey man and I
try to walk myself.
Well, I say this too.
I try to walk in a place whereI show humility, yeah, but I

(01:12:50):
also know I'm in a place whereI'm one of the only few men
that's really doing certain shit.
Yeah, so when I speak, I expectyou to hear, but I don't like
to.
Even though I like to talk, Idon't like to repeat my
motherfucking stuff.
I don't like repeating myself.
I don't like repeating mymotherfucking stuff.
I don't like explaining none ofthat shit.
I'm not about to explain thisshit to you.

(01:13:11):
This is what I said, this iswhat it's about to be.
This, what it's about to be,this is this is, yeah, simple.
I don't even want to say itagain for y'all.
Yeah, not, not at all.
So learning that if, like heyman, I didn't gave information,
I didn't doing this and doingthat, I'm not in a place of
repeating.
I don't even like having torepeat myself to my children,
though I know is I got to, yeah,but that's stressful enough.

(01:13:33):
It's like, have I not proven toyou?
And even when I talk about likeme becoming like a credit head,
a credit head, it's motivation,because I got a wife and kids.
If anything, it's for them.
Maybe if I didn't have that,would I have that same
motivation.
I got to get my shit together.
I want to make sure my kidsknow this shit that I'm learning
early.
That's the motivation.

(01:13:54):
And me being man that's themotivation.
Me being like, hey, man, me andmy wife, we want to make some
moves.
Let me make myself morefinancially attractive.
You know, be it to her or thebank, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, hey, hey, babe, look, hey, we got this.
We ain't got to worry aboutthat.
You know what I'm saying On adate.
So like, yeah, take you outsomewhere.
Or like, think about, like,trading your car.

(01:14:15):
We'll probably get yousomething a little better.
Hey, let me ask you this whenyou and wifey go on like dates
where you take her out or shetake you out, do you expect to
get some cutty?
Yes, okay, okay, I just wantedto make sure that just went me,
even though I got to check, bro,because, hey, I ain't going to
lie.
Lately, nigga, I've been meetinglike a mother for a year.
Hey, that shit work.

(01:14:36):
So I can't say it work foreverybody, but, like, kind of, I
learned this too.
Fellas, fellas, fellas, fellas,fellas.
Okay, don't forget to talk tothe lady, don't forget to talk
to her or talk her through it.
All right, so I've learned, hey,after you do you get you some
pussy and you play it nonchalant, play it like oh, that was just

(01:14:56):
another task, fucking you.
Good, that, nigga, that ain't,that's a walk in the park, bitch
, it's a walk in the park.
Let me go cut thismotherfucking grass.
You was a task.
I love you, but you was a task,and then I'll.
I'll drift off into other shit.
If, like, I ain't pressing forthe pussy cause, then it kinda
be like hey, that nigga doneleft me on some wonder, nigga

(01:15:16):
done did this?
Sucked hoes, booty holes,flicked beans, everything.
It did Everything to me.
Then nigga got up and turned onthe game.
Nigga went in the garage, smokebreak listening to shit and
he's like hold on, you ain'tabout to hold me, you ain't
tired.
All right, on to the next task.

(01:15:37):
Baby, I put the work in withyou With just one of them I find
with me, maybe with just me,and my drive is high.
Don't give away the game.
I like to do my thing, I liketo show off in there.
If I can Just admit hey, yougood, you good, okay.
If you're going to brag, bragabout that, talk about that shit
, or amongst your motherfuckingfriends or girls, hey, you ain't

(01:15:59):
got certain problems.
You can't relate Like, hey, man, you got issues with certain
shit with us.
But it's certain like, hey, youain't got certain issues like
them.
Yeah, you ain't got issues likethem, okay.
So it's one of them like, hey,you goddamn right, you can't
agree.

(01:16:20):
I don't know, bitch, because theking I don't.
I don't know because my husband, my man, my man, be that nigga,
be like my man does.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, so what you say?
How much I can't build?
Like I don't know.
So I'll say this too.
Just on business man, uh, thecable bill is one of them.
Things like we was talkingabout, like just bringing that
up.
That reminded me freedomspeakers.

(01:16:43):
I, I, as I pushed this financialthing and I even pushed this
heavy, especially on um.
I seen on social media for awhile back it used to be as
heavy, heavy debate of the menpaying all the bills and that's
the only way, kind of like thatnigga get respect from the woman
is if he, like he, just cashingout on her living.
And I feel like as a man and Isay this as a man who pay all of

(01:17:06):
our bills in our householdthat's not a flex, that's the
hey, my wife was in the hospital, so her coming off a payroll to
be able to, you know, likenigga she, she coming off a
payroll to be able to, you know,like nigga she giving birth to
our baby and she almost nine.
Why the fuck does she need tobe worried about a light bill?
Why the fuck she need to beworried about utilities and shit
.
So it's not a braggadocious,it's like no, this is for our

(01:17:26):
lifestyle.
So me paying the bills in thehome the same as I do for the
business, it's a different login.
I find it very disgusting asfuck when women be so quick to
want to just relinquishresponsibility of themselves to
a man so they don't gotta takecare of themselves.
Rushing for marriage or rushingfor or.
Oh, I only respect him if hemake this amount of money, or we

(01:17:50):
do this and do this Like hey,as a person in that tax bracket
bitch, we not looking for you,we not looking for you.
That's the shit.
We not fucking looking for you,exactly, and that's what they
don't understand.
You not looking for you, youjust going to get them because
you want them.
You understand, first of all,you have to meet them.
What's the odds of you meetingthem?
Where are you at that this?

(01:18:10):
It's like it's so, before wetook our little break on the
permission to speak podcast, wewould talk about mr kevin
samuels a lot, and what he wasbasically talking about is okay,
woman, what are the odds of youeven meeting that man?
And, on top of that, what arethe odds of him even wanting you
back?
You understand that has tohappen.
Right, he's not a.

(01:18:30):
He's not an item on the shelfthat you just pick up whenever
it's not gonna happen.
So, okay.
So you want this man.
You know, know you want sixfoot, six figure, six inches,
all that, anyway, six pack, theycan handle All that shit.
What are you doing to makeyourself attractive to him?

(01:18:52):
Then they sit like this.
I wait, you know what I'msaying.
They don't got much and muchand nothing man.
So most men who sit in hierarchypositions or career gentlemen
okay, he could be the manager atthe motherfucking save a lot.
He could be at the manager atthe bank.
Nigga, he could be running, wecould be jeff bezos.

(01:19:14):
All of these men are hardwiredthe same.
Okay, that don't matter thegenre of the man the hood nigga,
the nerd, the street nigga, thebusiness nigga, the creative
nigga.
If he can't problems off, heain't got a fucking tool bag.
If he ain't got reliabletransportation, if the nigga
can't got some style to his selfor whatever, like, hey, nigga,

(01:19:36):
you just got a man, you ain'tgot a man.
And as men, we pride ourselveson how, like our skills.
I feel like as a man, when achallenge comes is when I get to
demonstrate what the fuck I amlike.
Oh, until the end.
Bitch, we styling and profiling, we kicking it.
Yeah, it's like, do I, do I?
How off, how much do I have tostraight up be when you say,

(01:19:57):
like the definition of a man,you know what I'm saying.
Well, women sometimes think theyget confused and only a man can
give a man a definition of aman.
So, like, damn, do I got to behard all the fucking time?
Can I just chill?
Can I just relax?
Can I be cool?
Can I be understanding?
Can I be compassionate?
Can I be funny?

(01:20:17):
He's assy because he understandme.
All right, bitch, what do youwant?
What do you want?
He's sus because he nice to me.
All right, but I'm going toslap you when I see you.
That's what you want.
That's why I said the gentlemanwho you described with your
five points, which I love, thoseagree, 1000 okay.

(01:20:37):
But they.
But the lady right now where oneearbud in at work, she
listening to this podcast, andshe got her little face like
this, like she don't want him,and she just made a face again
because she feel a way about mesaying that I know I'm talking
to you, bitch, you don't wanthim.
Love didn't say that, yeah, shedon't want him.

(01:20:57):
She don't want him.
My gorilla pimp hand.
I'm sorry, but I agree with you, bruv, like I agree with you of
.
I get to see some of the womenthat I'm around family members,
friends, co-workers, things likethat, uh, some of them are.
They make it sound like theysingle by choice and it's like,
no, I think you single by lackof opportunity.

(01:21:19):
You know that, hey, you mightgot some men pushing up the fuck
for sure, or even pushing up tokick you, but in this place now
, where you calling me and sassy, I feel like men are finding an
esteem for themselves.
Yeah, because they weren't.
We normally and I think thisrunning I'm quote me on here I
feel like that's why they killedkevin samuels.
I feel like he was murdered,but like they killed kevin
samuels because he meant lookhow many people what we doing

(01:21:41):
now just in the notion ofpodcasts and talking about real
life situations that we used tojust speak and privately be
about, now we putting them on aplace that it's like, hey, if
you really vibe with us or youunderstanding what it is to
speak freely, you getting tohear and vibe like, hey, them
niggas is talking truthful hell.
Yeah, you know I'm saying so.
He pushed the narrative of mento be able to speak up and have
a place to say something.

(01:22:02):
So him being on his platform,being like hold on, wait a
minute, women.
Well, I'm not here to dog youbecause he's here to actually
educate and he actually wastelling men on how to step their
shit up to make yourselfattractive to this woman and
telling that woman like, hey,you really want that top-notch
nigga, this is how you gottapresent yourself.
Okay, and most didn't like howdirect he was.

(01:22:24):
Oh, he's so rude.
It's like no, he's not about tolet you play between the words.
Yeah, I had to read, becauseit's a difference.
It's a big difference betweenyou getting the man to sleep
with you and getting the man topropose to you.
You know I'm saying more orless man.
A man hit just about anything.
Oh, she like me, like you too.
Let's go.
Yeah, most people like, butthey might like them back.

(01:22:45):
Yeah, but am I about to like,really like give you my life?
I'm about to give you mychildren?
Am I gonna take care of you?
Yeah, so this is what I mean,like as a married man.
Eight years in, we have been ina relationship 14 years.
I get to see as my wife.
I'm like, hey, man, I'll mostdefinitely respectfully take
care of her and our children.
But we both had to grow to aplace where it was like we need

(01:23:07):
to still balance each other andI'm not just here to just fund
shit, because if that's the case, most things got a price.
Most things got a price.
If I'm just here to fund yourliving, hey, you can get the
fuck out.
All right, I'll get you anapartment that's a bill, yeah,
across town or some shit.
If it's just a city, like, putthis one of them on, some, I got

(01:23:28):
to be myself in my relationship.
Shout out to my wife man, sheknow how I speak, like this.
And Freedom Spe speakers, y'allgetting to see how I talk every
day, all day, not that smoothass shit that you used to hear.
That's the real chief.
This is really just me of like,hey, man, I give a fuck enough
to be to be honest.
So you know who you getting.
And my wife love me because I'mhonest, but she hate me as well

(01:23:50):
, and that's a hard word to say.
But I because I'm honest, butshe know what she getting
compared to most men, nigga, wegetting lied to off the rip and
I had to say this one day on therant.
I'm like nigga, you want me tohold on?
Hold the fuck on.
You want me to take care of you?
Bitch, I don't even know whoyou are.
You need to tell me your realname really, where you live at
with your real occupation, noneof that shit.

(01:24:13):
And I gotta you don't namereally this.
You really live here.
Let me pick you up from yoursister house or you be together
long enough with each other.
You get to hear the lies eachother told at the beginning,
like hold on, wait a minute,bitch.
You said you was somewhere upthat night.
Man, I got lots of Fuck you up.
Man, let me ask before we wrapit up man we about to get out of
here.
I got to ask you this question.
Man, you ever hit a chick youain't trust All the time.

(01:24:37):
And like Say like you Like ather crib, at her crib and you
almost Got to wear it.
Like nigga, some nigga About tocome up in here and you don't
even Want to take your shit Allthe way off.
Like so they call hey, I don'tlisten to Cam Nigga.
Cam said Nigga, they call thatAn OA game.
Yeah, yeah, shout out to mybrother, alfonso Thurman, my

(01:24:58):
best friend, alfonso.
Me and him would have theserules when we would go and go
over to women's cribs,especially if they was in like
other neighborhoods.
Yeah, we grew up on 71st Streetbetween Sapir and St Clair.
Even if you wasn't involved inall set seven, all shit in the
all set, seven to all shit, youwas from that neighborhood.
You got associated with theshit.
You got to put it on.
That's a fact.

(01:25:18):
You got to put it on, somebodygoing to ask you where you from.
So when we going down to KingKennedy Projects or we going to
Union or we going to differentplaces to meet up with women, we
bring in condoms and we bringin pistols.
We bring in this pussy,dangerous man, this some
dangerous pussy.
So you over there is pussy.

(01:25:38):
But you over there, fuck it.
You just got your ashy dick out, nigga, fucking real quick.
Rub a band, nigga.
I can't relax.
Fuck the living room.
I ain't going laying in thatbed.
I can't relax.
You better not go to sleep.
Nigga, get in and get out.
I remember we went to GardenValley this was the chat line

(01:26:03):
days.
We had got some action on thechat line Went over to the spot
down in Garden Valley and I'mlike, hey bro, this too quiet.
No, man, that shit different.
I don't think that's reallyworth it, man.
But yes, nigga, nigga, nigga,nigga tiptoed in some cooch that
I'm like I got to pray already.
I shouldn't be here Praying thewhole time.

(01:26:28):
I shouldn't be here, man, shemight got some nicks, yeah, some
nicks.
So one time some shit didhappen.
Bro, that's my brother, thefuck it ain't.
I remember going over to thegirl's state in University
Heights and I go over, I catchthe bus over her house, I go
over there.
She already let me know, likeman, her parents went home or
whatever.
So I go over there.

(01:26:49):
I had all like three or four ofmy RTA little bus pass.
I had to catch like the 3, thedowntown to like the 26, to all
day.
I had my little route so Icould get there.
Nigga had the papers and shit.
I had all of my 6 papers foldedup.
I had my no skip CD player andthem whole shit on the bus.

(01:27:09):
But I get over there, we do our1-2 and I felt special.
I did my little 3-4.
So now we chilling watching TV,you hear the keys jingle coming
through the front door.
She like, and I'm like, oh,what the fuck?
It was her pops that walked in.
So we get up off the couch andjust stand up and this nigga big

(01:27:31):
as fuck, bruh.
He had to be like six, four,six, five, uniform working dad,
julius, julius type shit man.
So I'm like, hey, how you doing,sir, I'm here to take out Megan
.
I'm like hey, how you doing,sir.

(01:27:56):
He was like, hey, how you doingGet.
He was like hey, how you doingGet the fuck out.
Hey, straight, like that,straight, like that bruh.
And I just walked past him onsome nervous shit like hey, this
nigga big as fuck.
But as I'm getting closer Ifeel like this nigga feel like,
hey, he big too.
This coming from a big nigga,yeah, he big too.

(01:28:18):
So it like this coming from abig nigga.
Yeah, he big too.
So it's like I'm at the stillon this nigga man.
But I walk out the house, outthe front door, the screen,
don't walk past him and shit, heclosed the door.
I just hear the nigga going offon her.
Man, the fuck are y'all looseass?
Anything could have fuckinghappened and I'm like I ain't
gonna be talking to her, goddamn.

(01:28:40):
But I say this man, being insome of them positions, nigga, I
done some wild shit in my life,man.
So being in some of thempositions, it fuck with my trust
of life.
Bitch, I don't trust you, don'ttrust you nigga.
I don't trust you, bitch.
Not at all, man.
And it be like that, hey.
But we live, we learn, live andwe learn, man.

(01:29:02):
The fuck up shit another day,hey, man, listen.
Thanks for joining us foranother episode of Permission to
Speak Freely.
Man, so glad to.

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