Nostalgic Tunes, 90s Sitcoms/Movies and the Art of Self-Improvement

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What happens when you mix love, nostalgia, popular culture, and music? You get a conversation that's as enlightening as it is entertaining. Remember those nights when the only thing setting the mood was the rhythm of R&B? When the boundary between friendship and love was as thin as the vinyl record spinning on your turntable? We take a trip down memory lane and discuss just that, reminiscing about how music - specifically 90s R&B - played a pivotal role in our emotional and relationship dynamics.

Curious about what sitcoms have to do with your upbringing? Remember the cultural landmarks that were the 90s sitcoms like Fresh Prince, Martin, and Living Single? We certainly do and we discuss their profound influence on our lives. We also appreciate the multifaceted talent that is Jamie Foxx, and how his sitcom and music have transcended generations and cultures. And, we do it all while navigating the heart-rending narratives of critically acclaimed films like Rainey's Black Bottom and One Night in Harlem.

But we're not all about the past either. We also ponder about the powerful narrative of hip-hop music and how artists like Master P, Snoop Dogg, and Jeezy the Snowman have used it as a mirror to society. We recommend some classic, albeit dark-themed films, that teach us valuable life lessons. And as we reach the end of our journey, we reflect on personal growth, self-care, and how the concept of Research and Development (R&D) can be applied to our personal lives to enhance our relationships and productivity. So join us, for a discussion that's as rich in nostalgia as it is in insights and laughter.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Say you can get this.
How much I owe you 75, 75.
Come on, man, you know how Igive you 40 dollars.
You know how you get that 40dollars.
Remember the chick he used todate Janine, her sister, jenny.

(00:21):
Look that up, that's how I look.
Permission to speak.
That's one of them goons.
So one of the things in that,like that movie man which I
thought was dope and cool,martin was a Entrepreneur of a
night life.
Him and his boys.
Yeah, on nightclub.

(00:42):
Yeah, bobby Brown, they was,was they?
They was buying the club fromWas the owner?
The only name was was was asunny.
I'm giving him a name.
I forget his name Lou Lou LouSchmittie, digging that old
Schmittie.
That's the only really dig inthat old Schmittie.
But they was a.
He was taking on a couple ofpartners and he wanted to a

(01:03):
little guy because they theypromote.
They was more so like plugpromoters.
You know I'm saying they getthe.
You know Schmittie was a orderguy.
You know Schmittie wasSchmittie used to run the juke
joint back in the day, you knowI was gonna say, but he had the

(01:30):
young guys promoting form,getting the ladies to come
through.
You know what I mean, cuz that'sreally what you got to do when
you promote that club.
Get the ladies to come through,and what's gonna come with that
?
Get the ladies to come througha chocolate city.
Come through, bring your girls.

(01:51):
You ain't got a word aboutpromoting to the fellas.
After you got the ladies inthere, plug on, promoted.
So.
So Schmittie was taking on acouple of partners, you know,
and they like hey, you know,yeah, yeah, you know, don't move
you up for show, for show man.
I actually, uh, as I grew up andI got a chance to watch that

(02:14):
movie again, as being aheartbreaker myself, guilty, I
don't even feel bad for my GMartin Martin is like one of my
top five.
Just personalities, you know,just personalities.
And in that movie makeeverything fun.

(02:35):
My nigga was, she was, she hadwarned him like I, my heart has
been broken.
Yeah, fuck with me, don't playwith me.
You know, my nigga, she got aplane of heart coming to try to
beat, beat the bitch ass, shit.

(02:56):
She was already hot class andon her own doing her own thing,
but Some killer her.
Remember some?
Some double-dare shit night.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Yeah, you're gonna have to tellit.
You love, come on now, you knowI don't break the rules.
We'll never Tell him we love.

(03:19):
That's what he said, man, buthe had to tell it.
So, man, let me ask you this mayhave you ever caught yourself
in that situation where you kindof saying emotional shit early
or like, yeah, you kind oflanded on real thick, as they
call it also young shit man.
I came up at a time where R&Bwas still running.
This shit, hi, you know.

(03:39):
So you know you kind of had to.
You know, say some shit youdidn't necessarily mean Just to
try to.
You know, lay yourself in asoft spot in a soft place.
Definitely guilty of that.
Man, you gotta say line alittle bit to get the pussy some
.
She got it that.
Hey, I think I I ain't sayingI'm in love with you and nothing

(04:01):
like that, but Think I love you.
Don't like I care about youlike a lot.
I really don't know how to be afriend with the smart girl.
Yeah, yeah, man.
So I'd have caught myself earlyday simping, early day simping,

(04:23):
getting a little attention fromthe ladies and, as I learned now
, like, amen, my love and myattention can be, it can be
overwhelming.
And I say is because I only gotone woman.
I'm just like I'm the Mary myglory.
They only got one woman issatisfied.
I'm the Mary my glory.

(04:44):
I only got one woman issatisfied.
And sometimes you like, onlygot one.
You gotta get all of this.
I'm like you gotta be.
I only can have one woman.
Right, you gotta be 30different bitches.
I gotta get a couple weeks fewoutfits, yeah, at least it.

(05:07):
Glasses on or off, sunglasses,glasses with no frame.
I'm gonna get you some scubagear.
We already touched on that onthe corner, on the corner.
So, man, but um, I Completelyunderstanding to get it, man.
So when they, as a young cat, Ididn't put myself in them

(05:30):
situations, I Come up in thatera.
R&b as well, yeah, man,confessions came out when I was
in the eighth grade, niggas.
So you know which is still afire fucking album?
It's just a classic.
You know, we don't throw theword Classic around like a lot
of people do.
These they, they be throwingout all that new song.
So classic, nigga, this shitbeen out six hours for sure.

(05:53):
So freedoms, because just for asecond man do.
This is to all respect tomusicians, artists of all kinds,
of all walks, all kinds ofcreatives, due to the person
being popular and then, for somereason, their lives are
tragically taken away from themDue to the start of impoverished

(06:14):
.
He does not make this person intheir music and catalog Classy,
mm-hmm.
Okay, not make them a legend.
No, it's not make them a legend.
You know saying Paco wasalready a legend before he died,
and, matter of fact, thank youfor that public service
announcement.
Have you heard about the latestto parking?
I have, and Now part of merejoices within this.

(06:41):
The I don't know man followwith me.
People, the conspiracytheorists, and me is like what
is the diversion?
Is like the distract.
What is it distracted?
I still bump to park music now,and I was listening to the
mansion.
That's probably one of myfavorite to park songs, man, and
I'm sitting there and I'mgetting KJ hip to stuff too, man

(07:04):
.
So I let him hear the mansionand I let him hear California
love, like just the flow of howTo Park flow his flow from.
I don't bail fresh out of jailCalifornia.
I'm here screaming, feeding formoney and alcohol the life of a
west sound player.
We're stopping some.
We all fall.
I got XDMD because that's.

(07:25):
That's it, though, but I lethim hear versatility Between the
tracks of like, look at what hecan talk about in thugs mansion
and how he still sounds thesame Compared to what he's
talking about just having fun inCalifornia, love.
And he was like I like hisvoice, like he got a voice.
That's a huge part of it.

(07:45):
He has a voice that people itmad.
It has a voice that, uh,attracts man.
So, that being said, man, I wasable to let him hear music and
communicate with him through themusic and that be like our, our
, our layer, our joint thing,man.
So he, he's tapping into music,I'm tapping back into it.

(08:10):
But I come up in that era wheremusic, you could use music to
speak for you and you couldn'tHold your own and the
conversation sometimes you could.
I like Got this jacket, baby, Ipromise to you.

(08:35):
And why would we let this thinggo?
So I came from there, what Ilike harmonized to the pussy a
little bit, saying give that.
Oh, you got, you can sing.
I Can't say I do my time, I domy little thing, you know.
So I got some vocal, I got some, got some little pipe.

(08:58):
I was the lead singer in thejunior ush board Afterschool
church.
That church I would be on thebasketball scene and me, my
homies, we carry the most chairsdownstairs in the basement
after service.
Six and this on my six andother other things, maxed out at

(09:20):
four.
That's just me.
That's what I do.
I do what I can for thecongregation.
You know, that's just me.
I just.
If you do my thing, y'all needanything.
Okay, y'all have a good evening.
You know how I go, for sure,bro, I grew up in the church but
I rightfully identified as aheathen.
My god know what he did.

(09:40):
But other than that man, I'm me, actually.
This man, especially since wetapping on R&B who do you feel
like is the R&B artists that youwill play, the kind of like,
set your mood for, like for thenight.
So give me an R&B artist thathas set your mood for the night

(10:02):
for like you and wife.
Let's give me one, one, oneartist that has set the mood for
the Eve.
It can be a old artist and newartists, but a artist that's
like for her.
It gotta be like a, not like anew, new artist, not like a, not

(10:22):
like a 2020s artist, but itgotta be at least in 2000s for
her, at least 10 years, yeah,cause I go putting on my shit
from the 60s and 70s and she goranking on the nigga and I don't
like that.
So, um, it'll definitely be somesome Jodicy, definitely be some

(10:42):
.
You know some some mid 90sJodicy.
For her man It'll be some.
Uh, it'll be some early usher.
You know some early usher man,some jagged edge, like you
mentioned some of that shit thatyou know that weed that we came
up with.
And if I'm putting on the record, um, you know, for my lady it's

(11:07):
going to be coming from the,the male perspective.
Like I got something to say toyou.
It's true, this another mansinging this shit fummy, because
I can't hit them notes the wayhe can.
But listen, this is how I feel.
I love the jaggedy CD, trackfour, and like the second verse,

(11:30):
true Hill, that's, that's whatI feel, like I can't say it, but
he's saying it from me and like, just listen and tell me what
you think.
This made me think about you,but it'll definitely be some
true hell in there.
Jagged edge, jodicy.
Yeah, yeah, tank, Take it early2000s.

(11:51):
But, thank, thank my dog man,really, he's free, thank my dog.
I like tank.
I like I met not met tank, but Igot hip to tank from, uh, jimmy
Fox.
Jimmy Fox had mentioned thathim and tank had like, let's
play football at school togetherand they used to sing and all

(12:12):
kinds of shit together.
But it was on an interview andI was like, oh man, I think
that's dope, but I only had ahip.
I was only hip to tank growingup from one song.
Not he had a catalog, yeah, butit was like he had one song and
it was like I always, always,saw some beautiful black woman

(12:33):
playing.
Maybe I deserve some nigga thatbroke their motherfucking heart.
Yeah, I deserve.
Who out in the body of I was afine.
I don't think it enough for youto go out and find some other
guy.
Bitch, I'll beat you, ha ha haTo grab your neck.
You better talk to people withthe fucking idea wrong.

(12:54):
Say it ain't true, it's my owninsecurity, and I'll chase you
down the street.
Yeah, it ain't true, it's myown insecurities.
Will you say, yes, I cheated onyou.
She is, you deserve it.

(13:16):
But all I put you through, baby, I deserve, deserve, deserve,
ha ha.
Will you sleep around tonightLike, hold on, wait a minute,
bitch, you better come to fuckon Real man.
But that's a dope cut man.
I actually got a kind of blackball in the industry at the time
.
I heard him talking like akiller.
Nah, I think I heard that.

(13:36):
Maybe he said he said heprobably said he probably said
that just on some funny shit.
Like man, this nigga stayfucking.
You know taking right hits, yeahfor sure, hits and hits and
hits.
You look at his catalog as awriter.
It's kind of like, oh shit,taking touching everything, god
damn, damn like he wrote.
He wrote oh for Marion.
Oh yeah, all that shit he wrote.

(14:01):
He wrote naked For MarcusHouston.
Yes, that's it.
You hear it, don't you?
It makes sense.
And now that you mention it, Ican listen and hear like, yeah,
that's a, that's a tank.
Yeah, it may be like the early2000s when Neo became popular as

(14:25):
a solo artist because he wasalready writing music, writing
like a mother.
Once you got to hear his music,with him on it, you get to hear
like, oh, he wrote.
Yeah, bieber singing that.
Because a lot of times how itgoes is, you know, folks will
hear.
Even I just say, from Kanye,you know Kanye played beats for

(14:46):
certain artists and go hey, man,this, you right here, this,
this is you, I even got.
I got a verse to it from whenyou want this, maybe like nine,
but they feeling that fucking,four years later you end up
fucking I use it and turn thatshit into like, oh damn, that
shit is hard, like yeah,sometimes you just got to hear
it in song form all the way puttogether and it got to catch you

(15:08):
.
You know, but tank, definitelythat dude on the right side, man
, I can't run through all thiscatalog, but I know he done, he
done put the pen to the pad andmade some shit out of it.
Show man, if I was the which Iwould love to, man, freedmen,
speakers, and I would love to,as an aspiring artist, as an
aspiring podcasters and aspiringcreative of multiple different

(15:29):
talents and things, I would loveto produce and make beats for
local artists in Cleveland, ohio, 216, or within the nation.
Anyone that's willing toconnect COVID show that we can
email and FaceTime across thenation.
Man, I'm doing let's collab,let's collab.
Most definitely man.
But if I could get into theindustry of musicianship, of

(15:53):
music, I feel like the easiestway for me to get in would be to
write.
I feel like I not just I feel,I know I can I make catchy
things.
Yeah, I wanted to be.
I wanted to work at Jingles2000 with Jimmy Fox and Cole,
miles and Curtis.
I felt like I ought to helpthat trio.
You're anxious?
Yeah, get out of the house.

(16:13):
Can you repeat that one moretime?
He's like Get out of the house,out.
Why you saying it like that,trying to find things that rhyme
with fungus Fungus Supposed tobe a mongus.
Yeah, yeah, man, remember thatepisode when they had to sing

(16:38):
off in the office.
Oh, my gosh, man Like, oh,playing white rice, t-i-boys,
the Jamie Foxx show man.
And you know if you're seeingthe rumblings about this on
social media.
You know, I think, the JamieFoxx show.
When you think about the sitcomsfrom the 90s, people tend to go

(16:58):
Martin, fresh Prince, livingSingle as a big three,
especially for Black.
Yeah, for sure, as a big three,because you got friends and
shit with fuck friends.
They stole that shit fromLiving Single.
The whole fucking concept offriends was stolen from Living
Single.
Living Single was canceled.

(17:20):
Bang Friends pop out throughthe research.
The whole concept was stolenfrom that Black show.
Other cast members come out andsay that most definitely of the
Erica Alexandria.
She played Maxine Shaw,attorney at Law.
And I love Max, just hercharacter, like how I could eat.
Yeah, one of them episodes shewas like, hi, naughty, I am too.
How are you?
I'm like, look what's up Max,what's up Maxine.

(17:43):
But she said that they stolethe whole concept.
They stole the attitude, thewardrobe.
But because I guess it's evenjust the dynamic of them dating
amongst even being the friends.
But hey, we can't have shit, weknow that, fuck friends, I
refuse to watch it.
I refuse to watch it.
I mean, even when it's on, Igot I turn the channel, go back

(18:07):
and just turn it again.
So let me, let me, let me, letme not lie.
I've never watched a full,complete episode of friend.
If I come into the room and ithas been on TV at work and I
just sitting there and watchRoss or whoever, that's the only
person I remember, just off topof my head, is Ross, that one,
because he was done.
I remember she was dumb, shewas like Sinclair.

(18:29):
Yeah, see, I'm saying he wasdumb.
And then I, I can't, don't giveme the line, fuck him.
I know a OB.
Yeah, he was the janitor, hewas the, he was the super in the

(18:50):
building.
Basically, he broke myCleveland Browns move.
Oh well, that's a good, that'sa good, that's a good.
That's when that they had theBrowns had sold.
You know Art Mordeaux had soldthe Browns and he's like, ah,
broke.
Mclean Browns move, oh well,they ain't gonna be around him.
He from Cleveland, no, kimCulley, kim Culley, kim Culley,

(19:17):
or the evil Kim Culley, which islike Jack A, one of them is
from, like Kim Wittley Wittley,somebody from EC.
Kim Wittley, look like you'reseeing my sheet from EC.
We're gonna have to do someresearch.
Can we get get on that?
Check that.

(19:38):
But um, but yeah, man, back tothe as a big three name, real
quick.
Big three, 90s, black sitcomFor me, yeah, for you, okay.
Jamie Foxx show Jamie Foxx,wayne Brothers and parenthood
for old shit people, yo,parenthood.

(20:00):
Robert Townsend Hollywood showyeah, fucking love the
parenthood.
That's another.
Like one of them forgotten ones, because when you think big
three, it goes fresh.
Prince Martin, give me a third,like the big living single,
kind of be that third, one bigthree, you know what I'm saying.
But then we forget about andfamily member, family members,

(20:23):
family matters, kind of justinto the late 80s, early 90s I
think.
I think that she came out 89.
But, of course, went on to belike a 90s show.
A successful black show went onand I got a story to tell about
and I think that and this is mythought, man, I think that a
full house was pulled fromfamily matter.
Hey, that's just me, I ain'tmad at.

(20:46):
Full house was pulled fromfamily.
Having the little neighbor comeby, little white boy, the
annoying neighbor.
Hey, dj, yeah, the annoyingneighbor comes over.
Yeah, I did watch full house,by the way, when as a kid, as a
child, I didn't know how rude Ididn't know.
Well, we as a kid, we onlycould watch certain shit because

(21:06):
we grew up in the household inthe 90s, yeah, where the TV's
have fat asses, yeah, theyweren't flat.
You might have color, you mightnot.
I had a black and white TV in myroom with the motherfucking
black.
Yeah, I a I'm a old soul, Iknow some shit, and I had the

(21:28):
two TV the first time I saw thevideo for Wankster.
50 cent was on that TV, blackand white, with the pixels on
that.
Yeah, it was black and white.
That shit was smooth, though,why, that shit was like a good
knee to 70.
I like it looked good for forold as TV.
The antenna had, you had a realand that is for you on the end,

(21:52):
but we had the old wire hangerwith the full loan there.
And then we had like somerabbit ears.
We had two.
Yeah, I had the rabbit ears andmy room was in the attic so I
get a decent sick.
Yeah, you up top, I had toomuch blocking you up top.
Yeah, but we had the TV at thetop and and don't quote me, but
I'm trying to remember it's like.

(22:14):
But go back and think I want tosay the TV, the top TV, had
three, five, eight, yeah, 19,and maybe 25, 20, 25, 43, 55, 61
, spanish, yeah, tell them, andthat was kind of it.
That was it.

(22:35):
That was it.
You might get this fucking TVguy on channel 99, 98, some shit
, yeah, but that's it.
And then, funny thing aboutthat black white TV.
You remember early in the bronzecareer they started wearing the
hardwood classics jersey, right, we like the blocks on the side
and shit.
It's about three months.

(22:55):
I had no idea what color themjerseys were because my TV
wasn't black and white and thecalves came on regular.
Well, it is local now, but theycame on channel 43.
Yeah, the cash was that.
That's when they that'slow-cost public broadcasting,
yeah, but like brown was here.
But it's early brown, secondseason, third season in the lead
.
That was like because he cameout, three Came in 03 03 04, 04

(23:18):
04 05.
Like they get early brown hadno idea what color them jerseys
was.
You know how I find out and theyhappen to go downtown, saw some
newspaper on the ground, likeoh shit, the bitch is hard.
That's just something like theopening of a movie, like a
raccoon city.
It was just different shades ofgray.
Where, where am I?

(23:40):
Like paper, just blow up man,that black and white TV and I
appreciated the shit out of yeah, yeah, yeah, man, we had the
black and white TV.
That's why we're trying to getmy kids to understand.
They don't know how good theygot it.
They don't know how good theygot it.
When we was young we didn'tknow how good we had.
Yeah, I feel like that's gonnaconstantly be the thing with the

(24:02):
generation of.
We may be feeling like ourchildren we're not tough enough
or they're not handling thelevel of challenges, but I also
feel like that our children grewup, growing up at the age of
information, where life hacks isthe new to get things through,
and I gotta use the brain powermore than just the brute string.
Go outside, it's like not beinginside.

(24:22):
It's shit.
And getting this knowledge onthese left, learning this coding
, that coding for Microsoft.
Yeah, you want to cut thisgrass?
I don't want.
I programmed my room.
But to cut the grass Now robust, break it and get this money,
yeah, you so got them smart.

(24:42):
It changed my stimulus to10,000.
Yeah, man.
But so I think that I think that, as we always talk about with
our children, man, we're givingthem grace.
I know we've been really heavyon them looking for production
and growth and I think that'sgonna still continuously be a
thing, but finding myself in themoment, at moments, giving him
grace, giving my oldest songrace, yeah, because I get to

(25:05):
see, I get to see theprogression and I also want to
give time to develop.
I get to see the effort of like, hey, man, I'm trying and I'm
doing this and I'm doing that,compared to say, for example, us
as kids.
Our parents may have looked atit like we weren't trying, but
we really were.
Just we weren't giving the timeto really process.
As we just stated not too longago.

(25:26):
Man, adult time is differentthan kids time because 8 30
bedtime to the kids sound likeit's a bad, but to me 8 30
bedtime sound fucking great.
Yeah, I remember.
I remember one year I asked mymom for a bike for Christmas.
Wait a minute, can I get a bike?
I asked for a bike.
Now for Christmas, I asked fora bike just for a regular

(25:47):
Thursday.
Like ain't no, no giftingholiday coming up and you can't
fit a bike in the Easter basket.
So this shit got a big assbasket.
But uh, say, man, I get a bike.
And she got off.
Okay, alright, maybe we get youone for Christmas.
It's fucking March.
How the fuck I got threeseasons to get through?

(26:10):
That's a long time.
I better get a few bikes.
We close the last Christmas,the next Christmas, what the
fuck this bike gonna be amotorbike?
Yeah, man, so that was one ofthe things.
But now, like as an adult, askme to wait a year for something.
I don't know how it 8, 5 years.
Sometimes it's like, hey, youknow, I'll be able to make that

(26:31):
happen.
Like 5 years.
Adult time different from kidtime.
Adult time different from kidtime?
Man, absolutely so.
Man, freedom speakers chime inwith us and let us know have you
ever will start from here,failed victim to say some
bullshit, a little bit too earlyand probably scared off a
potential person?
Also, give us some feedback.
Going some R&B that sets themood for you, yo, for yourself,

(26:54):
your spouse, anything to be thatpanty dropper.
Tray songs was my guy.
It's a panty dropper.
This right here's a pantydropper.
That was that shit Tray.
I put the Tray songs on.
There was no my name, that thescreaming tops the nether, yeah,

(27:18):
man, but that was my nigga.
I put the Tray on.
Get to set the mood, get the,get the knocking backs out man
all in scootin' beds.
Yeah, I remember when Jamie Foxxlike cause you knew from
watching it we bouncing all overthe fucking place, but you
backs.
When Jamie was singing on theJamie Foxx show, when the

(27:39):
singles and shit.
I remember one thing he was inthe studio, it was like a duet
jingle and the shit was fly.
So you know like, oh, look atas goofy as he is, ain't fucking
sane.
So when he was, say like whenyou first saw him appear on slow
jams with Kanye and Twisted atleast that was my first time see
you in Jamie's show up On arecord, like on one of six in

(28:01):
part video, and it's like and weknow Jamie already, we know
Jamie from the Jamie Fox show,you know, and we young so we not
listen to the foxhole, we don't, we ain't get that out here and
we was too young to go to thecomic show.
So we know Jamie from the JamieFox show.
You see him appear on slow jamsand it's like, oh shit, we knew

(28:24):
he could say he playing.
I really thought he was playingto me.
He's playing.
And then Smackers withunpredictable, which
Unpredictable?
And I want to say I was a, I'mgonna listen to that.
I won't know my way home of theninth grade.

(28:45):
I was in like the 12.
Yeah, I was.
Technically I was in my secondyear of my 12th grade.
I Superdoufus ain't.
I was in the second year of my12th grade and I thought that
graduated.
But I like schools so much andto go back, but I like here is

(29:09):
the view was in the ninth, I was.
So I was technically supposedto be out but I was a senior and
I Remember bumping that CD Isthat it be like oh, six, I don't
know if I was sound.
Yeah, sounds about right.
I remember bumping that CD,singing, and at first, like I
said, I don't even think that, IDon't think that he's serious,

(29:31):
but the album was firedextremely, extremely underrated.
Yeah, and Shout out, as we weretalking about other writers,
shout out the dream.
Who was?
I'm a fan of the dream of rightmiss will like he, right hits
as well.
Sierra, rihanna, the honest,all these big, no, I wouldn't
know nobody.
Be honest, but I know SierraRihanna, a couple of the artists
, and for Jamie Foxx.

(29:52):
He wrote a couple hits forJamie Foxx and when I'm just
like, oh he, for real, hewouldn't got the dream, but I
used to bump that Unpredictablealbum.
I used to mean I mean when Isay used to bump the brush that
album actually Taught me how tosing or harmonize, like just
because how clear I I felt likehe's saying and how they always

(30:15):
like, not today people, yeah,but just my man's of his talent
and him getting with goodproducers, good musicians and
putting it out there.
It was one of them.
I ain't man, it's nigga, reallyis talented.

(30:35):
Then, not too long after,unpredictable Ray oh shit, ray
man like Ray, which is a notthat that's not a movie that I
watch, where I want to laugh.
That's a movie that I watchwhen I'm really intrigued in art
and I want to become inspired.

(30:56):
That's one of them.
That's one of them ones.
I Told you this before, but Idon't know if I told the freedom
speakers.
It don't matter what I'm doing,if I'm at home and let's say,
I'm just flicking through to tryto find something comfortable
on TV.
If Ray is on, I'm watching it.

(31:18):
Don't matter if it just started.
It's smack dab in the middle ofthe movie, it's 19 minutes left
.
I'm watching because that man,eric Bishop, did an amazing,
amazing job playing thatcharacter.
Every little thing, even fromthe.
He glued his eyes shut so hecould be blind for real.

(31:44):
Lot of people don't know thathad his eyes glued shut, so when
he is walking let's say if he's, if he's walking and somebody
happens to be walking towardshim, he wouldn't appear blind if
he moved out of the way Becausehe just got the dark shades on,
but he can really see, like I'ma little.

(32:06):
He literally needed to feel Tobe as authentic man and that was
something just voluntary forhim.
He met you and Ray Charles.
Resting piece to Ray Charlespassed away before the movie was
completed, but Ray Charles knewwho was playing him.
I Saw them sitting down at acouple of keyboards together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I'mfloating around on social media

(32:29):
dope images, dope images andJamie playing it was so.
It was so funny, man, becauseyou know, ray, you play some
good blues when he'd get excited.
But, yeah, man, right, yeah,ray.

(32:49):
So Jamie Foxx, smack this with,I'm predicting, get him out of
here, bring me a old Johnny girl.
What the hell is an old Johnnygirl Night?
You were dreaming and I heardyou say, when you know my name

(33:19):
is rain.
I believe I believe.
Yes, oh, my goodness, show mynigga a track man, but no man

(33:54):
with that.
Oh, shit, man, that's a.
So I'm one of them one.
I'm on my Eric Bishop kick.
Jb Fox, yeah, I'm gonna listento the unpredictable album at
home, and the next time I seethe movie ray, I'm a most
definitely watch it.
So me and my sister, we even tothis day shout out to Queen Lynn
, my sister, chris, that's mytwin.

(34:14):
Yeah, we always say to eachother little shit from movie
lines, like us over in the movieray.
We say to each other likescratch a lie, I Don't you let
them make.
You know, cripple Ray, don'tyou do that.
Hey, man Say, look little shit,that a data, but just little

(34:37):
shit from the movie man, butscratch a lie, find a thief was
the one that we used to say.
I believe the young boy whoplayed young Ray, he ended up.
He played a couple downs andNFL from that mistake I think I
did see you this was a whileback that he he actually did
take one like a career, footballcareer.

(34:59):
Yeah, I don't know if you wentto the probe, but he, he went,
like you know a lot of folk man,like everybody, not gonna be
super, super, super star, youknow I'm saying, but he played a
few downs.
Denzel Washington son played afew downs and NFL was nowhere
near.
Hey, we call you up for thisgame.
I back down to the practicesquad.
But he played, he has pro stats, even if his six yards yeah,

(35:24):
you know I'm saying he has stats, he's on the books in that room
.
Have you ever?
Have you ever rushed againstmotherfucker old linemen?
One and a half sacks, nigga,whole career.
Hey, so, ray, he hit with Rayand then I Think he, uh, I Kind

(36:09):
of think where else did he do?
He did he did the soloist withRobert Downey Jr and that was a
Cleveland, ohio base.
Yeah, he went to the ClevelandSchool of Arts.
He played a Was it the cellarViolin?
I think you played all that shitfor real.
He's one of them.
He did all that, yeah, but, uh,yeah, man, it's that story.

(36:32):
He is from, from Cleveland andthat was another good one.
Now, that movie Okay, I don'tknow what it is.
You know Jamie take his rolesreal serious Cuz.
You know that that guy, he wasa schizophrenic.
So Jamie began to experience alot of I, but he went so deep

(36:53):
into the character he startedexperiencing a lot of, uh,
symptomatic of schizophrenia,and to the point where they
needed she's like, yeah, give me, get my kids out of here.
I feel weird.
Like, look it up, like you gotyou know the same with, like,
heath Ledger playing the Jokerin 2008, batman, which one was
that?
The dark night, yeah, yeah,that was him playing that

(37:16):
character.
It bucked with a mentally andJamie playing the soloist Excuse
me, I'll forget the, thegentleman's name.
Uh, we was playing, but, um, itstarted fucking with him in
real life.
I've heard.
Well, at the recent DaveChappelle show that was here in
Cleveland Ohio, shot out to DaveChappelle.

(37:37):
Then everybody that came, oh,oh, thank you, chief, I
appreciate that.
Yeah, that's my man.
I don't know that was, but no,he was here and shout out to him
and the team down there,rolands and a few other great
comedians but he had gave astory of he went to go meet Jim
Carrey.
Yeah, and Jim Carrey wasplaying I can't remember the guy

(38:00):
name but the Truman show he wassupposed to and he was Andy,
something whatever.
Do not admit I even feel bad formessing up these great artists
names where he they should beable to go see Jim.
I mean, I'm gonna go see JimCarrey, but Jim Carrey was so
into Andy they called him Andyon set, whatever the great other

(38:22):
comedian he was impersonating.
He got so deep into thecharacter that everybody on set
called him Andy and though theyshould, it was like me.
I got to see this great artistat work.
He was like I would be hoping,wish I could have met Fucking
Jim Carrey, cuz I meant Andy.
He was so deep with.
Just given that reflection of I.

(38:43):
I respect artists who get thatdeep into the character, the
culture, to give a greatperformance.
Yeah, I feel like, mentally,when I wanted to be an actor.
My son wants to be an actor.
I feel like, with all thethings that we're doing,
creativity wise, I don't have tobe On the big screen somewhere.

(39:04):
But I feel like I got someacting chops.
I can be in a to be moving.
Yeah, I can do way better thanthem.
So, but you know how manyChristmas players I was in the
church.
I Got some roles in the littleshop or I was tree number two in
the back.
Look at my credentials.
I sang at Memorial Middle School.

(39:24):
I was in the eighth grade.
We had a play card rent.
I had to sing 525,600 Minutes.
Shout out to Memorial MiddleSchool.
I went out there with my cousinEdwin Johnson.
How much time in that bottle?
Was that a year?
Yeah, if.
How do you measure?
Measure a year?

(39:46):
That man?
Sunset I got my coffee mylittle on in the troops that she
Learned in the way that hecried in the bridges, she In the
way that she oh, yeah, now tosing out though the story never

(40:09):
let's celebrate and some,something, something in the back
.
Remember I, I Should have beenthere.
I was in the 70 up.
I play, I play, I play Jesusstepfather a few.

(40:31):
I play Jesus, stepdad, leasttwice, at least twice, okay, all
right.
So, yeah, man, I got, I gotsome throws out there.
I went Jesus, you know what?
Jesus, a red one, strong enoughto be Jesus.
So I wanted Even with our crabs.

(40:54):
Now, man, let our children seethe example.
Yeah, so when it comes to acting, I feel like, mentally I know
that it's on and off switch tobe able to get so deep into the
character that you give a greatperforming, because art emulates
life and and you want to give areally good show, you need to
be able to get the best artistthat you can, the pieces

(41:17):
together, man.
So I feel like who's here?
I respect those artists who candig deep in themselves or
expose themselves to differentthings to be able to become
Equipped for the role.
And I give you an example aswe're stating, um, jamie Fox and
Heath Ledger, all of theseother, even a chat with bozeman.

(41:40):
They will get themselvesmentally prepared in different
ways and Even study differentthings to be able to get an
accent right.
Kid, I think those are a lot ofdeep actors that care about the
crafts compared to not to benegative, but to be some of the
actors that may just hey, theyneed a little bit of fighting
training, gun training.
That still puts them in aphysique to make it look good,

(42:02):
but it's like Everybody anaction star, did you?
Uh, because you touched on Chadwith both of them real quick.
Rest in peace, chad.
I'm pretty sure we've said thatat least three times before
already on this show.
Did you happen to watch my rainyblack bottle?
Yes, I did, yo that film.

(42:24):
I Don't feel comfortablecalling that movie.
That's a film, yeah, yeah, it's.
If the word film to me seemslike a more like Spectacles,
this is, this is art, this isart, it's art.
It felt like that entire filmwas shot in one take.
That's how it felt.

(42:46):
You know saying it felt liketheater.
It didn't feel like anyone saidcut At any point.
It didn't feel like it felt.
It felt very smooth, yeah, veryNatural.
Even just the, the conversation,dialogue, when they down there
getting set up to rehearse thesong and shit.

(43:08):
You know what I mean.
They all did they, they aroundthis talking shit.
You know what I mean.
And like it, just like.
It's just like I'm watchingthat shit, like you know.
It's like wow, how do y'all?
It don't seem like y'all doinglines, not them kind of lines,
but it don't sound like y'allreciting like, right, well, yeah
, they're not.
It don't sound like y'allreciting like, sound like y'all,

(43:30):
just hey.
When Levy told the story aboutwhen you know, because they,
because he was a young guy, youknow, I mean they kind of
getting on him.
But when Levy told the storyabout what you know, kind of
what happened with his mom andhis father, you know, when he
told I ain't gonna give it awayhere, but he was telling them a

(43:51):
lead Levy alone.
Y'all know what I've beenthrough and he went in and told
the story about what happened tohis mother and the way his
father Reacted and what happenedand what he been through and
what he saw coming up.
Just lead Levy alone.
I'm bothering nobody, oh,nobody, bother me.
Oh, fuck me.

(44:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that moviereminds me of the Regina King
produced movie and I want to sayit was a One night Harlem Mmm,
I think it was one night, Idon't think.
I've seen now it and I want tosay it's a fictional or non
fictional movie.
Don't get me, I can't.
It's fairly new, right, it'sreally not like I'm not gonna

(44:36):
get into one or something likethat, but it has a all-star cast
of these people are had takenon the characters of Malcolm X,
sam cook, I want to say MuhammadAli, okay, and then it was Sam

(44:57):
cook and Jim Brown, and oh, okay.
So this was about the, thesilver I know you at, yeah.
So I want to say that it was a.
The way the movie was scriptedand written out was that the.
If all of these gentlemen wouldhave got together in one night
in Harlem, what it could havebeen, but they pretty much.

(45:20):
The movie takes place in thesetting of a hotel room and it's
a lot of dialogue.
It's a lot of dialogue, it's alot of.
You get to see the characterchops of the person, more than
some of the movies that you getto see now.
Well, maybe you, you may be onscene on camera seven, ten
minutes and then the rest of itis some CGI, computerized, some
stuff like that, or some action,fighting, blowing up scenes.

(45:45):
It's like, no, these people arereally Drawing you in as a
character.
Um, but it reminds me of that,of like these actors are showing
their dialogue, they're showingtheir chops, they're showing
how smooth, like how they can beso embedded into a person.
Yeah, um, and I heard LaRan'stake say this.

(46:06):
He would say it.
You know, as an actor, I haveto be able to take these words
and bring them to life.
Like, I have to bring thesewords to life, I can't just read
it, I have to actually feel ithave to be coming.
After.
What do I think this personwould do after, like, come up, I
have to basically create thisown character myself, yeah,
somebody, body language them forwith acting as well, mm-hmm,

(46:30):
that's dope.
One of the biggest things to me,getting a C Doe, like the
different movies from back thenand even like the uh, the movies
now that we're speaking of,that has the dialogue.
It's it's giving um, artists aspace to actually show what they
can do, compared to some of theother art that's out here.
Don't get me wrong, I'm amarvel moviehead myself, but

(46:52):
they are great actors.
But a lot of it is CGI becauseit's supposed to be science
fiction and so on and so forth.
But with these movies like Ray,there is that's that's all
acting chops.
That is Mincel that's beingprojected.
That is Good writing.
That's good.
Everything with the night inHarlem, that's good writing,

(47:13):
good dialogues.
I'm gonna have to check thatout.
Yeah, it reminds me just oflike a movie with Taglin'
Bozeman and what's the name ofthe big Rainies Black Bottom, my
Rainies Black Bottom.
I think that's her song, myRainies Black Bottom, my Rainies
Black Bottom.
But she had a song that wastalking about that Southern
Muddy Water music.
Yeah, if you know the song shesang in that movie it on, and

(47:40):
what it meant in just othersongs that she has on other deep
South, louisiana, mississippi.
Now I'm out of gully that oneof them, their music, has
nothing to do with you.
Yeah, well, what you like, someMr Devil's hour ain't nothing

(48:02):
going on around that joint.
We need to come home.
Gerald, I'm going to touch it.
Juke joint me and Squee, I'mMary Agnes, what my name is?
Mary Agnes, mary, mary Agnes,you're gonna let this nappy girl

(48:24):
talk to you like that.
Sit the day alone dinner table.
What shout out to great acting,great movies, great lines.
Before memes came out, kids,permissions, big freely,
permissions, freely we used tojust run up in each other's face
and just throw movie lines.

(48:44):
Nigga, we was memes.
Before they start digitizingthat shit.
We're gonna run up in amotherfucker face and just be
like Kobe.
Yeah, shoot some shit.
Kobe.
Rip to him man, look what youdid to my curtain.
Yeah, you need to run up, sayall kind of shit, man.
So tell me this man when itcomes to certain movies that we

(49:09):
watch that we find like funny orcultural, do you allow your
children to watch certain thingsthat were like funny and
cultural to you?
Almost, we're almost there.
I mean I might, 11 year old.
I want him to be familiar withthe Friday movies here.

(49:32):
However, I think about it like,yeah, I want him to see that
part.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you shit was nasty.
I pray for them titties.
I don't want them seeing thatshit.
That's it.
I ain't think it was that badwhen I was a kid.
You know what I mean.
I'm showing this shit to my son.
It's kind of weird.
You know what I mean.
But we got them black movies,like you know.

(49:53):
Okay, the movies that are goingto get your black meme.
I'm talking about this latelythe movies that are going to get
your black card taken away.
Oh, you ain't seen what youknow.
Send them type movies.
Boys in the hood, men is tosociety.
You know the Friday movies.
You know what I mean.

(50:14):
Fireheart beats the temptations.
They can watch that shit.
You know what I'm saying.
But when it comes to Fridayit's like ah, nah, nah, yeah,
now we're smoking.
Yeah, I ain't ready for my sonto see that shit.
They got three blunts Doingthis shit.
You know that's my only problem.

(50:34):
This angel does Hold on.
Yo and I met my first timeseeing Friday dude.
First of all, I was in Alabama.
I was in Alabama the first timeI saw Friday and I ain't been
to Alabama since like 1999.
Got that Three, we're here.
Friday Come on Like 94 or five.

(50:55):
Think Friday and Lion King cameout the same year, 93 and 94.
I think 93 might have been likea little early.
I want to say 95.
But I will say I do know easywas still alive, easy died 95.
I'm gonna say Friday came out94.
94.
But uh, but I seen it.

(51:16):
But it's so weird, just likewhen I talk about like my mom
ain't.
One is walking up to the cornerstore and we was getting going.
We cool, they know us Right, wetake our ass up there, get our
little David K, chip Fago, dorags and shit.
You know what I'm saying.
And we come on back.
Man, am I letting my kids walkup the hell.

(51:37):
No, hell of a fuck.
No, no, not in thatneighborhood, no, not in that,
no, no, let me know it's notgonna happen, man, but it's
certain shit.
We would, if you think likeMama, say alright, one day you
gonna see, yeah, one day yougonna see.

(51:58):
And I see so almost, at leastwith my oldest son that's gonna
come check this movie out.
Nah, one on the watch.
Life we working on harmony.
But I think life is a niceclear one.

(52:20):
You know I'm saying you'reacting, yeah, you know comedy,
but when you know you gotta becareful with them.
Hood stories with the kidFriday boys, and you know I mean
gotta be careful.
So that reminds me of somethingreal quick.
I was looking through my music.
I've been turning my son on toa lot of different music.
So we was listening to KRS oneblack cop, okay, like listening,

(52:42):
like.
So I'm like, oh, that's KRS oneman, rain knowledge rain
supreme over everyone.
So he was like oh, oh, is thatlike?
Oh, okay.
And I was like man, people backthen had all kind of different
names that meant stuff.
So I'm breaking down like, okay, we had KRS one man, king of a

(53:05):
knowledge ring supreme overeveryone yeah, a little cool.
Jay was like ladies love cool.
James I thought my amen for awhile that thought I was a
little Cool to my name wasladies love cool.
Okay, explaining that soon.

(53:26):
But then We'll start.
We, we start.
I'm packing on the Wu-Tang clan, hmm.
So then, so I'm gonna put a pinin the Wu-Tang clan, but then
we so we went to Airbnb and rockhim and don't sweat the
technique.
He saw me jamming it at alittle bit and that's like oh,
you like this song.
She was like where's this onfamiliar?

(53:51):
I'm like, oh, this was on juice.
I don't like movies like thatand that's what kind of
triggered us to start talking ofThousand other.
I wouldn't watch one KJ towatch a juice per se, not until
you get a little older where,hey, he's having probably some
high school conflict.
Yeah, hey, this is where day.
So I explain something.
This is what dad usually wentthrough in school.

(54:13):
I'm not sure if you wentthrough it, but if he watches it
or I show him to show him, itcan be educational.
But just, nick, I only watchthat shit as an adult.
Now I'd rather go watch thesuperhero save the world.
I don't, I don't reduce thechild to park me.
Yeah, you know, yeah, this maybe a look.
I don't like juice.
I've seen it Maybe three timesin my life.

(54:33):
I don't Dream soda, but I don'tlike, I don't like, I don't
like juice.
I don't think anybody likes themovie.
Juice like all this much.
Yeah, we don't like that movie.
I think it's just relatable.
Yeah, it's a movie that you seeand it's like wow, that's it.
That's it crazy, mm-hmm.
That's a while I was talking tomy wife.

(54:53):
My wife had never seen a paidfull.
Yeah, yeah, take her black cardreal quick, but she had never
seen paid in full.
Cuz I was watching theinterview, the rich Porter's
sister and she, you know, gave awhole herd from her point of
view how the story went and thatshit is just Heartbreak,

(55:17):
heartbreak to what happened.
A little boy man's real name,darn there, you know they call
him sunny in the movie paid infull, but um, but that's one of
them ones to like.
I don't like Painful good movie,yeah, great movie, good,
classic shit, yeah, but like,especially being that it's a
true story.
You know, saying it's like yeah, I don't like this and it was

(55:39):
fucked, that nigga ice.
You know I'm saying like, ah,it's one of this, like, damn,
that's they selling us, webuying into the trauma.
Yeah, that's just relatable.
Yeah, it's not like good, agood movie, shout out to the art
.
It's not, it's a good movie,the art like the artist every
year.
But then it's like this story,horrible story, we selling

(56:01):
trauma.
But so juice?
I wouldn't.
That's not what I promote,that's a heavy one.
I Wouldn't promote juice.
I wouldn't promote New JackCity.
I wouldn't Promote shoot you sobad, my dick's hard, I'll miss

(56:24):
me.
No, browns all over the city,all over the world.
You know I don't do.
I do say cancel that bitchsometimes, yeah, I say that,
cancel that bitch like me.
Boys in the hood is the onethat's on the line.
Message because it's themessage.
Yeah, that's what say likemessage, yeah, I would.

(56:46):
I boys in the hood is one ofthose, especially the
relationship between A furiousand sure, yeah, that black male
role model that he needs and Ifeel like that movie did
challenge the John Singleton inthat whole squad are a piece of
piece.
John for sure that he gave areality of our when he gave hope

(57:08):
, yeah, and juice, when no hope,no.
Jack City, when no hope.
Blue Hill Avenue.
No, what no hope.
You know I'm saying a fool.
What no hope.
State property one and two.
What no hope you know I'msaying wasn't no hope.

(57:30):
So is In that movie he gavehope.
He gave.
Ricky wanted to play football.
Yeah, tray went to Go to school.
Go to school, this lady.
He got a shot.
Oh yeah, look at me about tosteal this bitch man Punch like

(57:51):
the old.
Look at him.
Does he have a girl?
Yes, he do.
Watch his ass.
Man, that's the old boy.
It's right they grew up.
They like brother.
He Work at the crash.

(58:13):
She'll go crash on ma.
Yeah, okay, you've beenprotecting yourself.
Okay, oh, that's that's howyou're in.
Double this one.
All right, that's real shit.
It's fucking old and you don'trecognize this shit until you
get older.
But you like Snigger, snigger.
Ricky was like 18 With a baby.

(58:37):
The mama got the living with themama, yeah, living with his mom
, mom, youngest fuck like mom.
And like his mom like 32.
I was like like, not much older.
She just graduated 10 years ago.
Maybe, not that I'm being, youknow, I go like a.
She was 18 when she had him,yeah, and she probably 36 now,

(58:57):
cuz he bought.
Like a, she was 16, 16 was yourdouble.
Yeah, youngest, fuck, you know,my, your daddy, don't come down
here and play cars with us.
No, mom, you need to go for us.
It's furious down.
No free styles, really, doublea dad.

(59:17):
But I don't mind him watchingthat because I feel like that
healthy male role model of what,uh, lawrence, first word,
represent.
Gave you that, yeah, and he'smy baby too.
He's a tray, hey, so when yougive me the skins, what trade?

(59:40):
This is still your mother.
Oh, I'm sorry man, oh, hang on.
Who this, who this?
But see, with just things likethat, hey, that's a positive.
And the checkers, they likecheck, do that how you answer
them all.
And why did you talk aboutgetting some skins on the whole?

(01:00:01):
Niggas Like, nah, I mean, rickywas going to go get some pork
rinds, yeah, but um, so boys inthe hood is one of those like,
hey, man, it gives hope, I can,I can.
It has at least a little bit ofa sense of you know, it has at
least that positive role model,and that's probably you know.
I dig deeper later as I thinkabout it.
But what about menace tosociety?

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Menace to society, which Ithink is still a dope movie the.
It still sells the trauma, butit doesn't have.
It doesn't give hope, it givesthe after effective, the wrong
choice.
My grandfather asked me did Icare about my life?
Right now?
I'd be too late.
But he asked me do you careabout his life?

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Broke it?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
And you care whether you liveor die, I don't know.
Yeah, man, what sad is at a timein my life that was a legit

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answer, like I didn't know, Ididn't.
It was like I didn't care whatpurpose that I have when, what
hope is there?
I think it just got out of highschool and got shot.
The fuck up, white shot.
Yeah, it stole somebody's golddeeds and made me feel like when
I got my first car I wanted toplay computer love, that was a
shit man.
Shout out to Robert Compton ForRoger.

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But it was.
It was a great movie.
I mean it was a great movie.
I mean it was a great movie.
Shout out to Robert Compton forRoger.
But it was.
It was stuff like that at ourpool and say something, that
movie, no, though they haddifferent people.
He was there right and he'slike, yeah, he went, he played

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balls.
Why he did this and he didn'thear reformed.
That thug that got his liferight, trying to get us right,
fuck him.
He swine, but it's giving you areality, look, but it's still
like no hope there is still.
You don't see the success ofsomebody actually did make it
out, yeah, and it shows like hey, it's.

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Let me repeat that back and sayit slowly one more time for our
listeners, for the freedomspeakers, and if you haven't
noticed or paid attention thatlike, hey, we are black, descent
or black.
So when you get to hear peopleto black, descent or brown or
Latino, hispanic, and you get tohear them say one of us made it

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out, one of us made it out, thequestion will be is what are we
in first?
Hmm, made it out of what?
Made it out of what?
So, as them, are we all in thisreality that understand that

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what we are doing is limited?
Bad man got her foot, got hisfoot on her neck.
We got to fight the power.
What was that be?
The power?
Compared to what?
Compared to this was comparedto a man.
We really let's start arevolution, let's get it moving,

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let's get it started, powerfulshit, something that really can
move the people, compared tosome bullshit that just make you
feel good for a little bit isall I needed, man.
I'm a child of hip hop.
I'm not wanting to disrespectanybody's craft or how they make
money, but I come from a placeof substance.

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Yeah, I'm from a place ofsubstance with the music man.
So, freedom speakers, when youget to hear some of our artists
and people that are speakingabout coming out of something,
keep in mind, man, you are stillbeing sold a form of trauma.
All right, making it out of thetrenches is something that all
of us are, most of us identifywith, but the bigger skill of it

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is and it kind of just fadesinto the conscious.
Rapper that would a backpackrapper, if you will that gives
you the outlook of what systemwe actually are in, which brings
you different films like higherlearning that was another one
too School days Wake up, but youknow me.

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Soundtrack, you know me.
You want a smoke crack.
You smoke crack.
My little name, he's hot, he'shot.
Shit out there.
Movies with a message, man,still giving you hope, still
giving you a person and a figurethat cares, and this person is

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tough because they know lifeain't gentle.
That's right.
I respect those, those roles,man.
I think that's shit dope.
I think that's things they needto be saying.
I feel like those roles stillaffect us as adults.
Okay, freedom speakers, whenyou're listening to the music
that you listen to and you like,pay attention to the stories

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that they're telling you wherethey're coming from and what
they're doing, and even listento see what they're doing back.
So I'm a real big fan of allkinds of music, man.
And when I get to hear therappers and musicians and people
become humanitarians, they giveback, they build parks and
things in the neighborhood, theygive backpacks, they do food
drops, a whole lot of shit thatmaster P Dude shout out to

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master P, if you ever watchedthe interview with master P, I
feel like I'm watching myself.
I feel like I'm watching myselfof like hey man, this is man.
Look, this is how you get thistogether, this is how we unify
together.
And when you hear other bigpeople who are successful, like
Snoop Dogg, tell you like hey P,that nigga, he gave me the game
, he talked me, coached me,educated me, money in my pocket,

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he put some money in my pocketOff of me.
Hey man, he showed me, he setit up like a university man.
I respect master P.
He put his family on whoever hecould.
He looked out you know what I'msaying, whatever it was.
But hey, he, the ice cream man.
Yeah, hoody hoo, I rememberthat.
Yeah, not those, I remember,hoody hoo, I remember.

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I remember.
I remember hearing a story Idon't even know if P told the
story himself, man, but it was apoint where master P kind of
moved the company out.
Where's a branch out West,should you say.
You think he got a call, got acall from shoes, and she said
hey, man, the West Coast ain'tbig enough for the both of us.

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He said you might want to moveit in, and what he told him, I'm
like that It'll take a lot,it'll take much.
Hey, man, you all right, whereyou going, where you moving,
yeah, yeah, yeah, but they powerhouses, man, and much respect
to those positions, man, most inthat.
So I just say that of, like,whatever walk you come from,

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people and whatever story thatyou're telling, man, give the
full circle story.
Do not just tell the trenches,because we need to hear the
climax of hope.
Yeah, for sure as the fan, weneed to hear the climax of hope
of hey, yeah, I started here butI went there.
So I give you example man, I'ma real big fan of Jesus snowman

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yeah, that's my man.
If you get to hear themotivation one on one, from the
progression to there to therecession to, you get to hear he
just wouldn't.
Latest album, my man just have.
But you get to hear his growthfrom just snowman recession to
think it was the recession toabout he dropped something else,

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but don't pull me.
But you get to hear the nextall man with the base.
Oh, yeah, I'm a root nigga.
Could even wear snowman t-shirtto school.
Not at all, you could not.
That shit was banned.
You can wear snowman hoodiescully, none of that shit.
And it looked like some SouthPark shit.

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Yeah, my niggas, a snowman witha face.
Man, I'm wearing it.
This is a symbol of selling.
We know what the snow is.
Snowman, wait, you get to hearthe progression of his music, of
his artist craft.
He's able to tell you like hey,man, I've started in this
business and I moved on a biggerbusiness and I've got to see my

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relationships with peopledwindle and die and I got a
chance to grow.
And don't do multiple thingsand say in show like hey, man,
everybody can go.
I can talk about differentthings and move different things
and it's just not the trap.
So I respect artists that cangive that.
That.
Give that full circle.
Yeah, they get that full circle.

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Man, shout out to GZ.
Man, that's another one Can,let me see 2005.
Like, the first time I smokedweed, I was listening to the
young G.
I remember that shit.
I was at my well, it was mycousin house.
Those are the band house anyway.

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But yes, my week for the firsttime, man, tmt, and it was
either TM101 or 103.
One of them.
But, yeah, man, jesus, jesus,that dude, straight up that dude
.
What a time man.
We grew up with different music.
Man Like I like the music oftoday as well, and you know what

(01:09:37):
, man, I think it just dependson it depends on where you at.
You know, listening to ourmusic that we came up with it
takes us to a time that we canreflect on and remember.
So then we listen to the musicof today and we don't connect
because that just ain't what wewas at with.

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It's not our time.
Yeah, it ain't our time, youknow, and I do enjoy some of my
kids be listening to some ohshit.
However, I'm OK with thatbecause at least in their music
at least the stuff they listento right now, age 11, age 7,
it's not giving them a messageof what we were being given

(01:10:23):
through the music.
It's not promoting to them asnowman t-shirt, if you will.
For sure you know what I mean.
It's definitely not doing thatBecause I want my kids to have
this little sprinkle of hood inthem.
Mm-hmm, they grew up out here, Ibrought him out here and now
maybe they be acting funnysometime.
I told my son yesterday one ofhis friends a bitch ass nigga

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for telling on yeah, yeah, yeah.
And first of all, son, makesure you pay attention, watch
your hands.
And your friend, a bitch assnigga snitching.
Oh right, one shit, what?
No big deal, but um, so realquick, freedom speakers, we
would like to officially Launcha segment on permission to speak

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freely called R&D, research andDevelopment.
Now, I know what you think.
You're not going into somescience, shit, maybe, maybe it
could go there.
More chemistry, yeah, okay, itcould go there.
However, our definition ofResearch and development here is

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Researching within ourselvesand developing with what we
learned.
So, chief, I Want you to kickthis off officially.
We've done it already, but thisis the official launch of
research and development and wewant to keep this segment
Frequent.
It may not pop out everyepisode, but y'all gonna hear it
every every now and again.

(01:11:49):
So, r&d, research anddevelopment what are some things
in recent days, recent weeks,rather it being business as a
father or husband, what are somethings that you noticed
research about yourself and thenhave taken the initiative to

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Develop them?
You give, give us just just astory or two.
Okay, we appreciate youIntroducing me in like that man
and giving me the place to beable to Give tips and pointers
of things that I do, we do andthat we teach in child, to
educate people with.
That helps us With our stepsand things in the multiple hats

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that we wear.
Man, so Frequently, I researchand develop myself, especially
when I'm feeling at a placewhere I'm uneasy.
I research myself and what it isthat I need and I need to do.
And within this research anddevelopment, this meditation
time, I reflect a lot on me.
I turn that mirror on myself tosee what I could have done more

(01:12:54):
, could have done better, thatless on a soap work, but I get
to the root of whatever's goingon In this trend, in this phase
of me researching, developingmyself.
I will reflect on my past weekof Things that I've done,
certain tasks that I complete,certain goals that I had.
I reflect on Goals and thingsthat I have moving forward.

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What do I need to do in orderto sharpen this up or to get to
this place?
On and so forth.
And I feel like being verygoal-orientated keeps you
pumping.
It keeps you having a purpose.
If you just wandering for toolong, you, you can't wander
forever.
But if you wander for too long,yeah, you might have wanted,

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might have made you lost.
Yeah, after a no man issupposed to find something.
Hmm, still man, no man stillsupposed to find something.
What is the, what's the courseof wandering for them.
So in my R&D, when I wanderwithin myself in my mind until I
find what I need, I'll go andsay I'll start micromanaging

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myself because I don't like tomicromanage the world.
I'll have control over that,but I got control over me.
So I'll micromanage myself andsay in this R&D, I need to
develop a better relationshipwith my son, because that makes
me feel better, makes him feelbetter, it's healthy, I get to
understand him.
I want to make sure I'm havinga.
I am leading here and I amsetting the tone of what it is

(01:14:26):
to communicate, what it is theproblem, solve what it is to
Open up that door for someone tofeel comfortable, to disarm
them of you being a threat.
Yeah, just certain, certain,certain things like that I'll
look with myself of hey, I needa lot of attention from my woman

(01:14:48):
.
Call it needy or what you want,but it's like I.
I only got one, that's it.
I only got one only.
I signed up for just one, soI'm asking just one to give me
all of her.
So I'm at research anddeveloping what I need from her
and what can I give to her to beable to make this back and

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forth Between each other justthat much more fair and mutual.
And then I'll research anddevelop just within myself for
what I need of my time, of myspace, of aid.
I need to Get better at myeating habits or sleeping or
waking up or handling certainthings before a certain time,

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but just All of it within growthof myself or research and
development of me, not mesitting around critiquing
somebody else or what more theycan do for me, but like what
more can I do for myself so Ican feed more people talking,
but I, so I can feed myselffirst.
So I say that that wife, youknow I had a conversation
recently and it was just one ofthose heart-to-heart

(01:15:51):
conversations of Me feeling like, amen, I'm put on the back
burner a lot.
I'm feeling like Because I amso strong is like, hey, man, you
got it, you good, you good, youokay.
And it's like I don't want torepeat.
Please do not ever feel likeI'm okay.
Don't feel like, don't, do notlet my durability Blind you to a

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.
I need some repairs.
I need wounds licked as well.
It's well said.
Some, some servitude.
I like some hospitality andreturn that doesn't cost
anything.
Or I don't want to have to payfor us to go on a trip to get
servitude right.
You want to just be, treat younice in a in a different
location, just giving that man.

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Those are the key things of afamily man, businessman,
entrepreneur Of research anddevelopment, my family.
How can I get tighter in thereand gain that relationship with
them and lead right properly?
Open that door, up a dialogue.
You know how can I make betterWith you?
Know business man, open thefloor up to the team.
What is it that we need?
Building relationships,communicating, exercising the

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gift of being vocal, and youknow, you know unifying people,
but then, as an entrepreneur man, get nothing to the world,
making connections and gainingresources that I don't have and
I need for Myself and for thepeople.
Man, so I need to make sure I'mdeveloping myself to be to a
certain stature, I can speak acertain way.
I got my books lined up rightso that I'm making myself

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attractive in all kind of ways.
It's shaping forms and I reallyfeel like that's the basis of
R&D is making yourself moreattractive, more appealing, more
like suit me.
Just keep suping yourself up.
For sure you know I'm saying so.
That's, that's my rundown of R&Dman in the nutshell.
Man.
So tell me about you man, whatis?
Oh, man, I wanted to keep.

(01:17:49):
I wanted to keep thisParticular segment of R&D yours
because you know we had, we hadtalked earlier, we mentioned
that.
You know you had some things onyour mind.
That's where, that's whereresearch and development will
come from.
It's not intentional all of thetime, for sure you know saying
sometimes it's like hey, thishappened.
You know, last week, last month, I did some searching.

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This is what I find.
You know, man, this is what Ifound.
So tonight's R&D segment wasFor you.
That was, that was yours.
To give to the guys some moreto give to the freedom I mean
R&D.
I got a cup about five to amoment.
The R&D came to me.
Do my meditation, yeah, throughBefore I went to because I

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offered counseling.
So before I went to CouncilCounseling to where somewhere
else, to give someone else my,my situation, to help me unpack.
I used, I practiced what Ipreached and I'm help unpack
things with myself.
Yeah, and Believe, started tobelieve in that verbal dialogue.

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I needed to hear it out loud.
You know, sometimes you likethat's not better in my head or
I'm writing shit.
Well, they don't go to the beat, they can say that loud.
So, but it's one of those ofcan I say out loud that I get to
hear and put it into existencethat I'm sorry, knowing like

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that's you ever?
You ever tell somebody I'msorry?
Yeah, and you get topotentially see Just the anger
or what this discomfort orwhatever it is, just maybe start
to Subside.
Yeah, but that's a spell.
Like I'm sorry is a spell.
I love you Is a spell If yousay I love you, I hate you.

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If you say I love you tosomebody, enough something will
happen.
You say I hate you to them,enough Something will happen,
you know.
So then to gay, the sameoutcome yeah, it's the same.
Just say you know, but um, I Iget a chance to Feed myself this

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information and be able tochallenge myself and test myself
to say Can I make amends withthis person?
And I hit a reset button withmyself of how I'm feeling,
counsel myself and say is thisreally that deep?
Am I having a bitch?
Yeah, my own.
Some suckers.
Am I having a suck attack?
I need a Snickers.

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My acting like a fucking diva,you know, but I'll say that to
myself and be able to counselmyself with that takes Strength
and honesty within you to saylike, hey, I'm not okay, you're
not right, I need this, I needthat, especially as a person who
I'm fucking up.
Yeah, I gotta learn, gottalearn, gotta do better.
So we just that man.

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I feel like the R&D portion ofthings that came to me.
Meditation is really working,like identifying things with
yourself, working on things thatmay be unsettling to you, or
Challenging yourself to be thebetter version of yourself that
you can be and healthy, pushingthose around you by your
demonstration, by your you beingthe example of, like a man I've

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been getting up in the morningaround this time, or I've been
drinking more water, I've beenwhatever it is and like, hey,
I'm the results, these are theresults.
I can show you results, morethan I'm waving my finger at you
of what more you can do, I'mactually coaching you of what
I'm doing for myself and theseare the results, man.

(01:21:30):
So that R&D is really, reallycrucial for myself and for
anybody that Any listeners outthere, permission to speak
freely to y'all, paying findyourself.
You can't, you can't navigateanybody else if you don't even
have a source of yourself orwhere you want to go, or what
you want to do or identity ifyou it's.
We all are still searching forourselves and we can layer
ourselves to be all the greatthings we want, to be people.

(01:21:57):
I know that we came and,however, being honest with you
Self and having some goals thatyou want to reach really helps
you find yourself and what it isthat you want to do.
How do you know if you likesomething, if you not, if you
afraid to try it, that you wouldtrade the child.
You're afraid to take that risk.
You're afraid to even putyourself in that realm to make
mistakes.
It's like what kind of what?
As we said before, women likethe bad boys because they take

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risks, they gamble.
At the same time, if he do fuckup, she could turn around and
say nigga, one shit, no more.
That's why I did the fuck shitI was doing so it just what do
you like?
It is one you, but Appreciateyou people listening to us here
at permission to speak freelypodcast.
You can follow me on IG atpermission, the number two

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