March 9, 2024 • 49 mins
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Every journey begins with a step, but not all paths are clearly marked. From the eclectic vibe of Lounge 87, I'm Chief Ali, bringing you an episode steeped in the raw, unfiltered realities of entrepreneurial growth. Join me and the indefatigable Marcellus Clay of Full Surface Painting Company as we delve into the essence of evolving through entrepreneurship.
We reminisce, laugh, and perhaps even spill a secret or two about the hustle it takes to turn a dream into a thriving business. You'll want to hear how we've both navigated the twists and turns of our industries and why taking well-deserved breaks is as crucial as keeping the momentum going.
This is no ordinary conversation. It's a masterclass in mental fortitude, a testament to the significance of mentorship, and an honest reflection on the support systems that keep us grounded.
Wrapping up with a sneak peek into my BNBOSSN Business Academy curriculum, I lay my own blueprint for financial discipline and empowerment. But it’s not all work and no play; I also extend an invite to my sanctuary, Lounge 87, where deep thought and relaxation go hand-in-hand with business and networking. So, whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, let this be your fuel for the week ahead — an invitation to recharge, rethink, and redefine success on your own terms, with a little guidance from those who've been in the trenches.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This time you will have to Welcome to Permission to
(00:39):
Speak Freely podcast.
This is me, your host, chiefAli, and in the studio with me
today.
Well, actually we're not in thestudio, we at lounge 87.
In here we get slumpy, dumpy,okay.
We get to talking a littlefreely, sometimes healthy, lucid
the lips, but seeing some ofthe things that we really need
to say, I got my man in.
Returning recurring guestMarcellus Clay owner of.
(01:02):
Full Surface Cleaning Me.
Owner of Full Surface PaintingCompany.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, at one point, at one point in time.
At one point in time, like Iwas doing like cleaning flight
to a lot of your apartments andstuff that I was paying for, so
the name you know.
Honestly, you wouldn't even bewrong about the like it happened
.
The shit didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It happened, see.
I didn't make a mistake butactually spoke up some truth,
man For sure, for sure, man, man.
So I'm gonna bring you up tospeed on a couple things, man,
I've been working.
So I've been working.
One of the things that I'vebeen working on was music
production.
So freedom of speakers.
(01:45):
I've been tapping into a littlebit of my beat making and
producing for the podcast and Istepped into music a little bit,
making instrumentals beats,looking to work with a local
artist and just global artistspossibly, you know, but I was
able to create a beat, make somesamples, speed them up, slow
(02:07):
them down, put some drums andthings over them, and was able
to make something, some thingsthat are pretty catchy.
I got a chill lo-fi, hip hoptype of beat, but some things I
kind of connect together becauseI just like the sound of it.
Man, but that's what music is.
You kind of, you know, pushingBen sound.
So I ended up creating a beatcalled trenches by chief Ali.
(02:28):
You can go stream it on anywhereright now.
You can go stream this song onall listening platforms.
It's chief Ali trenches.
Go look it up on Spotify,amazon music.
It's taking a while to get theApple music and I've learned I
should have predated it five orseven days before the release
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date, which was the date that Isubmitted it to the DSPs.
So I should have said releasedate seven days prior.
So it could have.
It could have did its thing,man, but beyond that that was
one thing that I've done.
That shit is fire to you all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Fire, like some Tarrant, like, if you like
Tarrant's Martin type of music,like the hip hop with, like the
jazz, the smooth type of likemelly type of beat.
Trenches is what you're lookingfor.
Trenches is what you're lookingfor, because when I heard that
shit I was like, oh, this shitjust made my morning for real.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh man, thank you, thank you for real.
So go, look, go look up andsearch.
The song trenches by chief Aliis on YouTube, apple music,
spotify, everywhere.
Go check it, run those numbersup for me.
So I say this man, as I starttapping into media a little bit
more, making beats and usingthose, the certain gadgets that
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came on my MacBook, the iMoviegarage man, a lot of that stuff
helped me, just happen, to bemore of a creative.
So I actually am looking toswitch the podcast, not just
having it audio, but having itvideo as well.
(04:10):
I'm working with a great, greattalent from the Cleveland area,
desmond Clay.
He's a videographer, so he'sgoing to produce a lot of the
video podcast moving forward forus and then he's going to
create the introduction to thevideo podcast, is going to help
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create that.
It's like it's the day in thelife of chief Ali, what I do
every day get up and I meditate,find my balance.
Man, thank the universe.
Tapping to dad, knock that out.
Tapping the husband, handle him, go be about myself for a
little bit and it's like I'm mytrue self, my raw self.
(04:55):
Then I go put my other cellphone when I go to work.
You know what I'm saying, whenI got to interact with different
people and you know, put mydifferent cell phone when I'm a
son, different cell phone, oneof my big brother, little
brother, so on and so forth.
Man, but he's going to helpbring that visual to life in
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like a music video, esk, butcinematic.
So I'm very excited for it.
This is pretty much like hisaudition to be able to us to
work together on more art and beable to really show Cleveland
together.
Man, you know a collaborativeview from you know his vision,
(05:37):
my vision, and we kind ofputting it out there letting the
people be the judge of it.
You know the freedom speakershere on the show.
So I'll go.
I'm very excited for it, I'mlooking forward to it.
Freedom speakers, I would lovesome feedback.
Let me know what you think.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
This video coming soon, that's big facts right
there like that sound like some,like some real, like major
moves.
As far as Taking the visionfrom, as far as taking the
vision from Audio, like you said, to actually making it, you
know it's picture, you knowmaking it into something visual
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and that's gonna help the,that's gonna help the audience
and the people who are tuning inand even, like newer viewers,
that's gonna help them tune inlike a whole lot more.
And then you know nothing.
In my opinion, nothing isnothing is more inspirational
than being able to seeinspiration at work and still in
the process of still trying toeven, you know, still, you know
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build, to even still get towhere you want to be a.
Often times we see people whoare already there and it's
harder to relate because youknow they're already there.
So it's like, okay, like we getto a degree, but it's like to
actually see and witness ajourney like that's the type of
stuff like I like to, like Ilike to watch, like I'm in it,
(06:59):
like I like watching stuff likethat, seeing Journeys and seeing
.
You know people evolve, you knowEvolving to the people who,
like they're supposed to be, youknow whether it's a, you know
Whether it's a good story, or itcould be, it could be one of
them stories.
It's like it's a cautionarytale, is like what happens when
you decide to.
You know, go against it doesn'tgo against the grain, and do
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you ain't me also, and do youain't supposed to be doing
making a movie.
That's what we making.
So I Look like that, likethat's an amazing idea, like I
definitely feel like this, thatlike you're trying, like you're
really about to take your real.
I take the podcast like Like awhole nother level for real.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I hope to.
I hope to.
I hope to be able to take theuse the podcast as the catapult
and be able to speak to thepeople more, match a face to a
voice and A lot of what few ofthe other projects that Desmond
and I are gonna work on willgive the visuals of the
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Operations that our world, ourtransportation line, our adult
day center and our residentialcenter, which is still me, our
residential housing, which is 24hours a day.
We command about 30 people,five administrators, and then we
have people on the payroll whoare contractors, like our lawyer
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on a retainer, our Accountant aretainer you don't people,
mainly them to, you know mainlythem to.
But Seeing how I get tointeract with the, with them,
the family, I have to make sureI'm staying, you know, on top of
things.
So having a visual and thisperson kind of seeing that day
in the Life of me and how Iinteract with things and people,
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it gives a hefty backing toStories that I speak about on
the show, especially being anentrepreneur businessman.
This year, 2024, march, march23rd, will make 11 years We've
been in business.
God willing, man, I'm still a.
I still got my certificationsand audits and Documents.
(09:03):
I still got to turn into wholicensed me.
You know who my checks andbalances as the owner.
I'm still being able to keep mygovernment contracts and my
local contracts with insurancecompanies and things like that.
I still have to walk thosegreat lines as well, owning the
transportation line as well.
I got a Got about 16 tires,sometimes all at once you know,
(09:25):
for eight vans as the 16 tires.
So Making sure we have that andthat we here, once the vans get
a certain age, we can, you know,flip them out and we can, kind
of, you know, wash the fleet,keeping insurance up on those,
when people just, you know it'sthe law to have insurance with
people team to tend, ding things, so just it's.
(09:46):
It can weigh heavy mentally onthe operation and the
maintenance of keeping things,you know, going.
But I'm built for it, I'mthankful for it.
The video was showed the theoffice locations of the show,
our fleet of vehicles in and outof the show, like our homes,
the glimpses of it.
(10:06):
But he'll get a chance to Bringthis vision of me to life and
what my day is, with a heavy,heavy dash of humor.
It won't be Serious, it won'tbe.
You know, reality TV that'sdrama sizes is reality TV, fully
humor, like you get to see whoI am and I'm a very comical
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person.
I'm a comedian, so Everythingwill be magic.
Most things will be, you know,funny but controversial.
But it'll leave you thinkingand educated, what you like.
I want to Come back.
You know I'm saying so.
This person is gonna help mebring that to life, take that
Stress off of my shoulders to beable to try to do that
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Videography myself and it's.
I don't have the time to.
I gotta, I gotta, just be thestar baby.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I just gotta be the star so let me ask you this and
what I think and what I was justthinking about this.
So I'm like, well, I think, how, like what I I'm gonna start
doing each time like I'm on theshow and we get to talking.
I want to ask you like, like weshould just randomly ask
question like when, what's themindset that you personally feel
(11:17):
like you have to be in in orderto, personally, as far as like,
because you know, like when youbuy a hot wheels track, it has
the instructions connect this tothat, you know, make the curve
what's the mindset that you, asan individual, has, that that
you have in order to be able totry and build this role that you
have no instructions to?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Um, that's a really good question, thank you.
Thank you for asking that.
From what I learned on myjourney is Take as many breaks
as you need to, especially ifthere's no directions.
You don't want to get too awfulprogress that you you can gauge
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.
You know I'm saying Never stopmoving.
You know, matter what direction, just keep momentum.
And sometimes you'll have totake a step back because you
didn't learn a lesson there.
You got to learn that lesson.
You got to kind of re-up andrecoup from that to learn how,
how do you got to go throughthat to get to that.
(12:18):
You know I'm saying so, I'll.
I'll say that I'll say Giveyourself, be easy on yourself,
do your research.
Okay, do your research.
Make really good guesshypothesis.
One of those Psych yourselfSometimes, like what I find me
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now at the place, is I'll havethe vision in my mind of how I
need to start, execute, finish,have the tools to be able to do
it, but then I won't have theenergy to move it.
I won't have the energy to moveit.
I do it another time when, assoon as I think about it, I've
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learned as soon as I think aboutit and I see the process I
gotta do.
I got a strike water, iron hot,as they call it.
Once I let it feed, it's out orfizzle down, it's gone.
Now I'm sitting there Kind oflike it was too easy for you
anyway.
It was a bullet anyway.
(13:27):
So, keeping yourself mentallyLike happy or as up as you can,
I tend to find myself willing todo things when I feel good.
You know so I'll.
I'll say that man, and I sayprobably the biggest thing is
acknowledging you.
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There is no map.
So what is right or wrong?
What is like?
Can't beat yourself up about it, but Give yourself a pat on the
back foot just moving.
You know how many people staystagnant.
You know how many people feellike ignorant.
They purposely make themselvesignorant.
I Can't.
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I can't live in that type ofbliss, can't live it, because I
know too much.
Once you've expanded your mind,it just does not Deflate the
same.
It only don't go back to thesame shape it was.
So Freedom speakers anything orany advice that I can give to
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any listeners.
That's a hustler that's Outhere hungry.
That person is really lookingfor direction, looking for a way
you, you looking for signs,you're looking, you're putting
yourself in positions, hopingsomething happens.
Like that, that something willhappen.
Okay, you have to keep moving,you have to keep going.
You can't dictate when yourbreak don't come.
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You can't dictate it.
But you got a man.
Opportunity will come.
But when you showing yourselfand you showing up and you
putting yourself in positions,opportunity will catch your
scent.
Man I'm, but it doesn't, itwon't it?
That's not coming to thetalented person in.
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That's just not exposingthemselves.
You have to expose yourself.
You have to take that chance.
You would and this is where I'msitting now, even with myself
of like giving this advice,because I have had to sit during
.
I'm sitting there now in awhole another space with the
podcast, with the musicproduction, with the media of
hey, this is me Having art orthings that I'm proud of, that
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I've created and done.
Give me your opinion.
So I'm, you got to be ready forthe ridicule.
You got to be ready for thatand be able to bounce off of
that, because it's going to comeand a lot of it is mental
because you know, somebodyhitting you can sting, but what
somebody else they say can stickwith you, it can just stick
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with you and you is just playingin your head.
So, mentally, prepare yourselfas much as you can keep yourself
as happy, as much as you canprogram yourself for a good time
.
A slither sanctuary, programthat, if it's uh, if it's
lighting up your joint, if it'sgetting you your, your beer, if
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it's like a man, in my littlecheat food and eat my little
reese cup, I'm uh.
If it's just, you know,flirting with your lady, if it's
just, you know, whatever it isthat gets you feeling good and
get you, you get your mojo going.
You can't forget to do the taskBecause you didn't, you know,
tease yourself with somepleasure, but you got to be able
to be like a man.
That's, I gotta handle thisbecause this is gonna be my
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reward later.
This, this drink gonna be myreward later.
My love, my love smoke gonna bemy reward later.
Uh, you know, getting some bunsgonna be my reward later.
Man, and I say this, man Justspeakin free, free as fuck.
Man like I'm like Getting someass, getting some sex in the, in
the diet.
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That's all of about 76, 77% ofthe problems.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Man, help me think a little clearer.
If I get to stretch a bit more,I'm like huh, for 20 years
younger.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't work thatprobably a good little sweat.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
But uh, I feel, uh, I feelrecreated, I feel worked out, I
feel feel good.
So I'll take that momentum andsay, all right, let me go ahead
and Get domestic on some shit,let me clean house on things,
let me go to the business andhandle some stuff, let me.
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But I, I'll ride that good wave.
So it's, it really starts withthe mental.
If I can give any, if I cangive anything, it starts with
your mental.
What you program start, let me,let me retract your start in
your mental.
Okay, I don't want to subjectit to just one thing.
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It starts with you as the being.
All right, I know people whowould, some of you that they
don't have brains but they gotheart.
They got heart.
Okay, all right.
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It starts with the being andwhatever powers you have in
there.
Once you feel you want to letthese powers out and these
powers can come out through art,normally, through skills,
through desires Once you letthese out, you get to see how
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different, how the same we areby how different we are, how our
art speaks.
But it, though it's my art.
You connect with it like music,like music is.
This is why music is one of themost dangerous things, because
you can, you, you can Make ananthem that people go to war to.
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People fight over, fight thepower, fight the power that be.
You know.
I'm saying you got People getmarried to them, you know, have
sex to them.
People got breakups on, butit's like it's a language.
It's a language man.
So Use though it is, you got touse, you know, the door, your
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tools.
So it starts with Now, startit's in.
It starts with the being, whatyou find within yourself that
you want to bring out and sharewith the world.
The world has the freedom Toshare something back, and
everybody might not and theirbeing have art.
Some might have hate, my, somemight have trauma, some might
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have been scolded by things thatjust they shouldn't have to
endure.
So when they don't know how tocome up with something that's
possibly beautiful, they'recoming up with something that
that's paying for ugly becauseit represents how they feel.
You know so you got to be Lyridthat it's gonna happen.
You can't have a good withoutthe bad, can't have a good
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without the bad.
You is just.
That's the yin and the yang.
Good things.
So Freedom of speakers, if Ican give any other advice is
Learn to take the good With thebad.
Happy ain't as happy.
Happy ain't as happy withoutthe sad.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
No, but no, I agree, it definitely.
I feel like it starts withoneness.
You know, like Happens justunderstanding, having an
understanding about shit.
You know, I personally feellike when you actually just can
just have like a certain likelevel of understanding, like
whereas, like, some people mayget mad about certain things if
you can just say, well, you know, it's actually like this, but I
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do get it though, but I'm okayLike when you have oneness and
you can actually understand likeboth sides of the fence,
understand everything.
At least try to try to have anunderstanding about things.
When situations arise, when youdo try to like level up or even
or here, like it could even be,it could even be like you start,
like you start your businessand you feel so heavily inspired
(21:32):
as you just want to just jumpand start Another one, but then
jump start another one and justlike what you're saying, like
you know, even like with tryingto build that road, you know you
don't necessarily know what'sgoing to happen, so long as you
try, so long as you try.
But there's also nothing wrongwith doubling.
There's also nothing wrong withgoing back and read, you know,
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and refining what you currentlyhave, going on, even to just,
even if that means you just wantto just build up just a little
bit more confidence and yourselfto be able to take on, like
that next challenge you know, orthat you know, or that next
thing, or whatever it could benever, things is just about
being okay with where you wrapup, understanding that so long
as you're trying to make thesemoves and do it, something's
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going to happen.
Like you said, the universe isgoing to react some way somehow.
And so long as you're from whatI've seen so long as you're
trying to put in the right typeof energy and you know what your
, you know what your goal is,you can see the bullshit come,
but you won't, you know, evenlike that shit stick with you.
Eventually you get to having,you get to having, uh, you know,
(22:37):
dodging a bit like my homerally, like what?
Like you didn't even touch mytrick boy, you know, you ain't
even touched me.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to, and I think you
mentioned it on the last one ofthe other episodes.
After a while certain thingswill become automatic.
You'll know it's gonna be apart of the game.
You're gonna know you'll beable to predict a little bit
better when certain things arecoming.
You'll catch a rhythm.
So when you're, when you arethis far in the game and I kind
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of give a lot of people Latelylike the origins of us, you know
, from sewer to entrepreneur,please keep continue to listen
people, for you know thosesegments and things I kind of
just drop in a little bitsometime from show to show.
But when we started thebusiness, you know, I had a
mentor who I love and I'm reallyappreciative of the information
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man, louis Thompson.
He gave me a lot of information.
He was seasoned in this field,had his agency going,
transferred his business intomultiple other things and you
know kind of he didn't live anddie with Healthcare like myself.
He, you know, ventured intoother stuff, blossom into great
things, but I continued to growinto this and tap into other
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industries within this.
But he was the person who gaveme the initial game of how to
Get into the healthcare industry.
Such as myself.
We are contracted with the boardof developmental disabilities,
dodd for short.
We take care of individuals whohave intellectual and
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intellectual and developmentaldisabilities.
We provide 24-hour healthcareservice, residential and we
provide transportation.
These are all three differentbusiness entities.
Residential is a business onits own, transportation is a
business on its own, and adultday is a business on its own.
We run them all simultaneously.
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It's we started with justdrop-in sites.
We started with just having thethe wheel to want to work,
having a hustle, and once mymentor was able to help me with
the paperwork which is the easypart of things, as I sit 11
years in Documentation is theeasiest part of running a
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business.
Once we got certified and yougot my I got the LLC and I got
my tax ID, it was like Okay, Ithought the money was gonna roll
in.
No, now it's time to bring yourbusiness business.
Can you market, can youadvertise, do you understand a
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certain level of sales, do youhave a certain People skills, do
you have a customer servicevoice, do you can you dress
appropriately?
So just a Lot of things thatmakes you have to step up on A
different echelon level.
I knew how to provide care andto hand care.
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But I didn't know how toprovide care through a business,
so still Faking it till youmake it.
But I Didn't.
I didn't forget to make it.
Even before Business I wasresourceful.
I was a resourcefulmotherfucker.
Now I'm a resourcefulmotherfucker Still still the
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same me just in hands, tappinginto that.
I can do more.
I Can do more, I can help more.
I can be able to Be that.
But before then I was on theplace where I needed help.
So I know how it feels tosomebody giving you a break,
throwing you some rope, givingyou an opportunity, and you,
like I, can't fumble this man,cuz it makes us both look bad.
(26:39):
I fuck up on you looking outfor G and then I'm sitting back.
People mad yeah, nobody helping, nobody ain't they gonna top,
ain't looking out.
It's like it's hard enough forfor him to Take care of himself,
let alone give an outshitter,being generous or feeding
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people's entitlement.
You know it's a difficult thing.
I was actually hurtful, but Justunder understanding, like you,
understanding your goals,understanding where you want to
be.
Everybody can't go andeverybody won't go.
That's another hurtful part ofit, and we learn these things
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just early, when we would makelike certain gains.
We would get one or two clientsand we would get some callbacks
and even though they'll be so,be denials, but it still be like
, hey, you didn't get thisclient, but hey, I got somebody
else in mind.
Or they'll like our personalityenough and say, hey, I think
this will be a good fit for you.
And Every little bit man Ilearned from my wife, learned
(27:44):
from she's with me every step ofthe way.
So, just, I always had a keenfor hustle and knowledge, man
for education, just a sponge,brah, I'm still a sponge.
Now.
I Got a little mule, you wantme.
I ain't got ringed out in agood time.
I need to get swallowed up realgood Swallowed, scooped and
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swallowed.
But All of that man, you knowI'm still a sponge to soak up
that information and thatknowledge and apply it.
I heard Nipsey say one timelike you know, I still game, I
still hustle.
You know I'm saying he like ifI hear you saying something or
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doing something, I like that.
You know I'm saying that Imight, you know, borrow that
from you.
I'm saying just on some hepieces together.
Yeah, like yeah for sure.
So what I like to say is like,I mean, I'll adopt some of that.
Yeah, I'll take a little pieceof this, twist it up, boom, boom
, boom, do a little thing to myown, but I guess I made it my
(28:52):
own.
But just showing how much tolike, I see you, I'm thankful
that I was around to catch thatfrom you.
Hey, this what I built fromjust just watching you on one of
them, like, oh yeah, I guess Icould see what you know I'm
saying I can respect.
It's all inspiration, bro,that's you know, it's all.
It is man and showing.
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So I tell you this man Freedomspeakers, if you didn't know,
marcellus is an artist beyondjust Painting homes and decor
interior, exterior, things ofthat nature.
Man, he's a legitimate artist.
I have artwork in my home ofthis man's that I know.
Fucking.
No, bro, one day is gonna beworth way is gonna be an
(29:38):
astronomical number that Peoplegonna be putting up their houses
and cars to be able to like hey, I just want one of these.
I want one of these Clays up inmy home, right, this clay
addition.
You know I'm just making upshit.
You can have it if you like.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
People buy art.
Okay, so that's one thing.
People buy art and art isn'tone.
It's a subjective Okay, justlike comedy, just like music is
subjective is.
It may not be for everybody,but there's a value of it.
Go up when you got originals andthen the person popularity
(30:19):
pretty much goes up.
Brother, you, oh shit, gonnacontinue to rise and I'm gonna
be one of my motherfuckerscoming out the back like, no, I
got an original.
Okay, I got an original of thisman's man when we was just
chopping it, smoking, talkingshit and plans, and then we we
seen these plans come to life.
(30:41):
Now we live in the plans, right, which is a who freedom
speakers to bring it full circle, from starting from business
and nothing, with just a hope ina dream, to sitting sometimes
In a place where I got a beat.
Like I have to have a realitycheck from family and friends
and and people who knew mebefore, a certain level of
(31:03):
Success, if you will, that itkeeps me grounded, it lets me
know, oh, people like people whoreally care for me, who really
love me.
At the same time, it brings acertain, a certain feeling of
like thankfulness, a certainfeel of Y'all I gotta check my
(31:25):
reality like am I really livingwhat I said I wanted?
I I'm like, I'm in.
I'm in the simulation that Ibuilt myself.
So it's.
It takes people who love me togive me that reality check like,
amen, I.
You may remember when your mamaI'm gonna whoop your ass at the
(31:48):
school one day because he wasfucking up the teacher car.
He just came to slap the shitout you in front of your class
mates.
Yeah, I remember that.
Can one.
I remember that, nigga man.
I remember when you got hit bythe car on Sandy.
First you fucked that lady carup and you had your afro getting
up.
Him is like damn you, right if Iforgotten who I am.
(32:12):
And it's like no, you, you, weknow, you know who you are is
just real niggas gonna remind.
Keep them remind.
They're on your ass too, justso you don't get out of line and
it's you be told sometimes.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Sometimes there are, there are instances where you
may not have a lot of peoplearound you or mine of you, who
you are.
And it's funny that youactually mention it because,
like I Fought myself recently,just like I, just I was talking
my little brother, I foundmyself recently just like
telling him, like you know,since I've started you know
(32:47):
we're having you know doingbusiness and started you know
doing pretty good, I've beengoing back and like retrying
shit that I necessarily Retryingshit that I gave up on, like
you know well, it's like a videogame or you know they could be
retry to read, draw.
It could be trying to draw orpaint something.
It was like you know what.
Let me go back and try and seeif I progress as like a person
(33:11):
and Damn like hell, I've evensat like I like anime.
But you can't really say likeanime unless you're willing to
sit down and watch like the full, like Japanese, and like read
it Fool.
I was Benz watching Boruto, thestory about Naruto son, like I
was been watching that wholeentire show, tried doing it
before.
It was just like yeah, I can'tdo this like, but decided to
(33:33):
give it a try, give it a tryagain.
It was good like even likegoing back and playing certain
games that I might have given upon or felt like I probably
Played the game a thousand timesbetter.
In fact, he took the time outto actually learn how to like
actually play the game.
So you know, but, but even, but, even more so, like just going
back and just like, even likerewatching.
(33:53):
Like certain cartoon shows Iactually like watch, watch
growing up, just rewatching it,or just actual TV shows, like it
really didn't matter.
But sometimes you need to likedo little stuff tonight.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, some things that, uh, that can remind you of
yourself, that remind you oflike Good times, remind you like
you say, that's this Nostalgicmoments that's all I like to
call them nostalgic moments takeyou back to a Placing your
youth, your childhood, a good,happy, good, happy moment.
You know I'm saying someplacethat it's someplace that that
(34:29):
only People who knew you we alldidn't have nothing know you.
You know I'm saying so freedomspeakers.
Have you ever been at a placeor ever dealt with somebody and
you had to get them a realitycheck and the good or bad way?
But you know, let them know.
Like, hey, baby, you know, Isee what you're doing.
I want to let you know keepdoing what you doing.
(34:49):
I remember all phases of you.
I'm happy to see you.
Where you are now, baby, goodjob.
Or Sometimes you could be likea Calm your wild ass down.
You ain't the king of things,you ain't the queen of shit.
You acting like your ass don'tstink either.
Let us know if you have freedomspeakers, we would love to hear
(35:10):
from you so more.
I got one, one heavy questionfor you.
When you find yourself at aplace where you stressed out and
you like, hey, man, I'm not,you know, I'm in my feelings of
whatever, whatever, whatever.
Give me just one or two thingsthat you do that can help you
kind of bring about it Well.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I try to, I try to, I try to, for one self, like,
self-examine myself.
So you know they're.
You know like if it was, if itwas a situation like I'm mad I
could have like done better,make a better choice of like, or
try to bit more Harder orwhatever, then I'll definitely
try more hardest to like, sitdown and like, just really just
analyze everything.
(35:51):
If I'm right, then cool, likeI'm right and I'll be fine and
like I'll be fine.
But if I know that I'm wrong,then like I'll try and do what I
can to fix it.
But so long as I know the factthat I've tried to do what I can
to fix it, it whatever happens.
After that it happens and Ican't control it.
So I show my, I try my eyes, tryto show myself a level of grace
(36:11):
and like my, like meditation,when I meditate, I try to, just
I try to find some type of grace, whether it is I'm right or
whether I'm wrong, show myselffrom grace.
The other thing that I also dois Sometimes I see, sometimes do
, sometimes I don't sleep,sometimes like I'll try my
hardest to fall asleep and likeI'll find myself back up Like
(36:35):
two hours, sometimes even likearound the same time, like by,
like by four in the morning, Ifind myself just up and like no
desire to watch TV, no desire toreally do anything besides.
Just still try to figure it out.
I try to, I try to, I try toresort to Internally, like
making sure that, likeeverything is like one up and up
(36:56):
for the most part, soself-reexamining, making sure
that like I'm not in the wrong,you know, or just you know, and
then also to just saying, nexttime I'm gonna just do this so
and I've learned that I've cometo see that like my level of
stress has been like I still getstress, but it's not as bad as
(37:16):
like it used to be.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
You've been finding yourself like in a healthier
space, or you.
What you've been doing has beenworking accountability Thing of
the word accountability.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've been just accepting accountability, even
if I'm wrong, still acceptingaccountability Because honestly,
I don't want a hard day.
I don't want a rough day likenone whatsoever, accountable.
So I try to be accountable withwhatever the situation is, no
(37:52):
matter what, and that helps mekeep a level of stress down
because for one, it's like I canlive with it.
I can live with it whether it'sgood or bad.
I can live with it.
So long as I know that Iactually tried to make a better
outcome for it, I just let it go.
I will stress like shit.
No, I honestly shit.
I stress when my pockets getlow.
That's what stresses me out,that's what makes me like,
(38:14):
that's what turns me to amotherfucking bear.
That's what makes me mad whenmy pockets get low yeah, pockets
, get low stomach, get hungryman.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
We can't be friends right now.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
What's this feeling coming over me?
Sleep.
I don't even fucking know you.
I'm broke.
I ain't got no sleep.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
No, I gotta try and figure out how to get it Right.
So I'll say this real quick man, when we were talking about
taking this step back freedomspeakers.
I have curriculums that I teachthrough my Ben Boston Business
Academy Just information I'velearned just from a self-made
entrepreneur.
Information in my own, justpretty much my own story, but
(38:55):
the financial things that I'velearned.
And then I'm still learning.
I'm no financial guru, but I'mextremely disciplined.
I am extremely disciplined.
I am a penny-pension frugal,extremely generous motherfucker.
I got a whole budget just to benice.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know what I'm saying, just a whole budget to
be generous man.
But it's like, hey, I'll writeit off as miscellaneous, I ain't
gonna get this $50 back.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I ain't gonna get this $100 back.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Fuck it, it's in the wind.
You know what I'm saying, butit's like I know I can't let
certain things get below acertain margin, because not a
machine not running smooth, justlike, hey, you got to keep the
oil and the engine at a certainlevel because, hey, this is
optimal, it runs at its best,right here.
(39:51):
Anything below this margin,right here, it starts getting
serious, man.
So when it gets to the money,when it gets to making sure you
collect it, it'll teach you whatto fit it, man.
So it's a freedom speaker,there's a business on it.
(40:12):
It'll teach you how you got tostand on business.
It seems like that's the quoteeverybody's been using.
As a businessman, I've beenlike shit, what the hell, what
the fuck was you standing onbefore business?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
A businessman would like to know.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's for real, right?
What were you standing onbefore?
Principal Accountability, right?
They land Just bull man,whatever it is.
I'm still learning it, man.
So in the Ben Boston BusinessAcademy, this curriculum and I
teach financial literacy, how tounderstand your bands, giving
(40:50):
yourself really some disciplineand accountability.
So I have a.
When I launched this in 2020,launched the Ben Boston Business
Academy in Davis, the differenttiers.
(41:10):
So the first tier was so youwant to be an entrepreneur, huh?
And in that first tier, it kindof gives people just the
insight of what it is to open upyour LLC or your S-Corp.
So keep in mind for people, man, I just want to say this as a
disclaimer.
Okay, just as a disclaimer.
All right, there are otherclassifications in business
(41:33):
besides an LLC.
Okay, I don't have the timetoday to get all into them, but
I'll tell you how I amclassified.
Okay, I am an S-Corp, I am acorporation.
Public broadcasting broadcastedyou about PBS Ken by PBS Ken,
(41:55):
but we're structured as acorporation.
It helps on the benefit oftaxing.
These are not negatives.
These are government laws thatbusinesses are privy to, because
the business is what reallykeeps the economy going.
Everything is operating At thegas station is a business.
(42:17):
Yo, we man in business.
You paying rent is a business.
The grocery store is a business.
Going to get your license is abusiness, all of that, all of
that.
So the first package is hey man,so you really want to be an
entrepreneur?
Huh, kind of breaks down thecurriculum of what it is to get
(42:38):
into business marketing yourself, advertising yourself, getting
you some lines of credit, thingsof that nature.
The second package is hungryfor more.
That's where you have gotten ataste of success.
You got a good system now of oh, I got some traction, I got to
(43:02):
keep up with the demand.
Now.
Your advertisement then workeda little bit.
Your marketing then worked alittle bit.
Your sales pitched and worked alittle bit.
You got a good thing going whenyou meet people.
Now you got a good personality.
You got a good shirt now Got agood pair of shoes.
They see you.
You selling yourself.
You're being Not just yourheart, not just your mind,
(43:25):
you're selling your being.
So when they see you, they'relike hey man, I like him, I like
that guy.
So now you really putting in thework, you're trying to.
You're hungry for it, you'retrying, you are here searching,
you're sharpening yourself up.
You're soaking everything ofyour sponge.
Once you hit a certain level inthere is you're gonna be
(43:50):
promoting up, you're gonna bedeveloping things for people as
you keep building.
Which takes me to my third tier.
That I teach was the money.
Does the work around here?
Now You've then leveled up anddeveloped yourself up to now to,
hey, you can't, you don't havethe time to be out there working
and tinkering on those vansbecause, hey, your time is
(44:14):
better occupied elsewhere,devising plans and building
relationships and gainingresources and just alliances,
different places.
You gotta be able to speak,gotta be face to face with some
of those things, can't be in hertinkering with a van.
You've been developed yourselfup in a position where you got
people who are willing and wantto do that.
(44:36):
They're applying for it andthen now you got potentially
people in a leadership positionthat had they followed those
checks and balances of thosethings, so that now you are
developing.
You want a place where how muchthat costs?
All right, we got a budget forthat.
How much?
What we need to do?
Okay, we got a budget for that.
(44:56):
Okay, man, you know we needwhat.
Okay, hire somebody for that.
You can't do everything duringthe development stage.
Now the money takes care of it.
Your money is working for younow it is handling a lot of the
things in the business is whyyou get to see in any industry,
(45:18):
99 out of 100 times money solvesthe problem.
So, freedom speakers, you canfind me on Instagram.
At permission to number twounderscore speak freely podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You can find me on Instagram at full service
painting.
You can also find me onFacebook by my name or sellers
clay, and you also find me onTikTok at full service painting
as well, for my videos andcontent as well, and uploading
content for the show as wellcoming soon as well.
So you're gonna be getting hitwith it from multiple different
ways, multiple differentplatforms and multiple different
(45:55):
people.
So go ahead and follow along,and what we're gonna be talking
about on the next episode forsure is tapping into a visionary
project that I have in my mind,something that I kind of like I
really really wanna get intoworking like this year, a short
(46:16):
film on pretty much being anentrepreneur.
You know like it's like amixture of like some eight mile
type shit.
You know along with, you knowif you watched HBO's baller.
So you know talking, makingdeals.
You know closing deals, making.
You know saying getting thingsgoing, but also to showing be
(46:41):
the effect of trying to paveyour own way, and the fact that
you, you know you gotta.
You know you gotta answer tosomebody when you're trying to
make a move for real, whenyou're trying to make multiple
moves, you always gotta answerto somebody, but what it boils
down to is this how the fuckdoes it make you feel in a
moment and what is your fuckingdream At the end of the day?
(47:04):
My personal opinion, if youyourself have an exit plan, then
there's no reason in the worldwhy you can't succeed at
whatever that you're trying todo.
So long as you have an exitplan, then you'll always have
avenues to be able to get there,because you already have you
figured out your way out.
Now just trying to figure outhow to put those think, those
(47:25):
gears in place to get there.
So that's what we're gonna talkabout on our next show.
Ken Wan, thanks again for havingme over here.
Good as fucking back as fires.
Fuck for real Niggas.
Feeling good right now, feelingalways, always feeling
motivated when I come throughthis is like you know, this is
(47:48):
my, this is my church, this iswhere I come for to get fed, you
know, to get, you know, to getre-strengthened.
So you know, I appreciate youfor being able to provide this
space and, you know, lookingforward to doing more shit man.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh for sure, man, thank you.
So thank you for that man,thank you for that.
This is my sanctuary.
You know what I'm saying.
This is my lounge 87.
That is, you know, a certain,you know as a certain place in
my heart.
I, like, I spend most of mytime out here.
I think a lot out here, Ihandle a lot of business out
(48:22):
here.
Let's say, I spend a lot oftime out here, I think out here
a lot, I do a lot of businessout here a lot.
I smoke out here a lot.
That helps my nerves.
I'm, I'm, I'm at peace when I'mout here.
This is my office.
This is where, such as yourself, man, you come through to be
(48:45):
able to, you know, hang out,kick it, recharge, get inspired,
motivated.
You know we strengthen eachother and, you know, go out to
the world stronger than we camein.
Well, so, freedom speakers,thank you for tuning in.
Once again, we out cheers.
This time you will have to Welcome to Permission to
(00:39):
Speak Freely podcast.
This is me, your host, chiefAli, and in the studio with me
today.
Well, actually we're not in thestudio, we at lounge 87.
In here we get slumpy, dumpy,okay.
We get to talking a littlefreely, sometimes healthy, lucid
the lips, but seeing some ofthe things that we really need
to say, I got my man in.
Returning recurring guestMarcellus Clay owner of.
(01:02):
Full Surface Cleaning Me.
Owner of Full Surface PaintingCompany.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, at one point, at one point in time.
At one point in time, like Iwas doing like cleaning flight
to a lot of your apartments andstuff that I was paying for, so
the name you know.
Honestly, you wouldn't even bewrong about the like it happened
.
The shit didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It happened, see.
I didn't make a mistake butactually spoke up some truth,
man For sure, for sure, man, man.
So I'm gonna bring you up tospeed on a couple things, man,
I've been working.
So I've been working.
One of the things that I'vebeen working on was music
production.
So freedom of speakers.
(01:45):
I've been tapping into a littlebit of my beat making and
producing for the podcast and Istepped into music a little bit,
making instrumentals beats,looking to work with a local
artist and just global artistspossibly, you know, but I was
able to create a beat, make somesamples, speed them up, slow
(02:07):
them down, put some drums andthings over them, and was able
to make something, some thingsthat are pretty catchy.
I got a chill lo-fi, hip hoptype of beat, but some things I
kind of connect together becauseI just like the sound of it.
Man, but that's what music is.
You kind of, you know, pushingBen sound.
So I ended up creating a beatcalled trenches by chief Ali.
(02:28):
You can go stream it on anywhereright now.
You can go stream this song onall listening platforms.
It's chief Ali trenches.
Go look it up on Spotify,amazon music.
It's taking a while to get theApple music and I've learned I
should have predated it five orseven days before the release
(02:50):
date, which was the date that Isubmitted it to the DSPs.
So I should have said releasedate seven days prior.
So it could have.
It could have did its thing,man, but beyond that that was
one thing that I've done.
That shit is fire to you all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Fire, like some Tarrant, like, if you like
Tarrant's Martin type of music,like the hip hop with, like the
jazz, the smooth type of likemelly type of beat.
Trenches is what you're lookingfor.
Trenches is what you're lookingfor, because when I heard that
shit I was like, oh, this shitjust made my morning for real.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh man, thank you, thank you for real.
So go, look, go look up andsearch.
The song trenches by chief Aliis on YouTube, apple music,
spotify, everywhere.
Go check it, run those numbersup for me.
So I say this man, as I starttapping into media a little bit
more, making beats and usingthose, the certain gadgets that
(03:50):
came on my MacBook, the iMoviegarage man, a lot of that stuff
helped me, just happen, to bemore of a creative.
So I actually am looking toswitch the podcast, not just
having it audio, but having itvideo as well.
(04:10):
I'm working with a great, greattalent from the Cleveland area,
desmond Clay.
He's a videographer, so he'sgoing to produce a lot of the
video podcast moving forward forus and then he's going to
create the introduction to thevideo podcast, is going to help
(04:32):
create that.
It's like it's the day in thelife of chief Ali, what I do
every day get up and I meditate,find my balance.
Man, thank the universe.
Tapping to dad, knock that out.
Tapping the husband, handle him, go be about myself for a
little bit and it's like I'm mytrue self, my raw self.
(04:55):
Then I go put my other cellphone when I go to work.
You know what I'm saying, whenI got to interact with different
people and you know, put mydifferent cell phone when I'm a
son, different cell phone, oneof my big brother, little
brother, so on and so forth.
Man, but he's going to helpbring that visual to life in
(05:15):
like a music video, esk, butcinematic.
So I'm very excited for it.
This is pretty much like hisaudition to be able to us to
work together on more art and beable to really show Cleveland
together.
Man, you know a collaborativeview from you know his vision,
(05:37):
my vision, and we kind ofputting it out there letting the
people be the judge of it.
You know the freedom speakershere on the show.
So I'll go.
I'm very excited for it, I'mlooking forward to it.
Freedom speakers, I would lovesome feedback.
Let me know what you think.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
This video coming soon, that's big facts right
there like that sound like some,like some real, like major
moves.
As far as Taking the visionfrom, as far as taking the
vision from Audio, like you said, to actually making it, you
know it's picture, you knowmaking it into something visual
(06:16):
and that's gonna help the,that's gonna help the audience
and the people who are tuning inand even, like newer viewers,
that's gonna help them tune inlike a whole lot more.
And then you know nothing.
In my opinion, nothing isnothing is more inspirational
than being able to seeinspiration at work and still in
the process of still trying toeven, you know, still, you know
(06:39):
build, to even still get towhere you want to be a.
Often times we see people whoare already there and it's
harder to relate because youknow they're already there.
So it's like, okay, like we getto a degree, but it's like to
actually see and witness ajourney like that's the type of
stuff like I like to, like Ilike to watch, like I'm in it,
(06:59):
like I like watching stuff likethat, seeing Journeys and seeing
.
You know people evolve, you knowEvolving to the people who,
like they're supposed to be, youknow whether it's a, you know
Whether it's a good story, or itcould be, it could be one of
them stories.
It's like it's a cautionarytale, is like what happens when
you decide to.
You know, go against it doesn'tgo against the grain, and do
(07:19):
you ain't me also, and do youain't supposed to be doing
making a movie.
That's what we making.
So I Look like that, likethat's an amazing idea, like I
definitely feel like this, thatlike you're trying, like you're
really about to take your real.
I take the podcast like Like awhole nother level for real.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I hope to.
I hope to.
I hope to be able to take theuse the podcast as the catapult
and be able to speak to thepeople more, match a face to a
voice and A lot of what few ofthe other projects that Desmond
and I are gonna work on willgive the visuals of the
(07:58):
Operations that our world, ourtransportation line, our adult
day center and our residentialcenter, which is still me, our
residential housing, which is 24hours a day.
We command about 30 people,five administrators, and then we
have people on the payroll whoare contractors, like our lawyer
(08:20):
on a retainer, our Accountant aretainer you don't people,
mainly them to, you know mainlythem to.
But Seeing how I get tointeract with the, with them,
the family, I have to make sureI'm staying, you know, on top of
things.
So having a visual and thisperson kind of seeing that day
in the Life of me and how Iinteract with things and people,
(08:41):
it gives a hefty backing toStories that I speak about on
the show, especially being anentrepreneur businessman.
This year, 2024, march, march23rd, will make 11 years We've
been in business.
God willing, man, I'm still a.
I still got my certificationsand audits and Documents.
(09:03):
I still got to turn into wholicensed me.
You know who my checks andbalances as the owner.
I'm still being able to keep mygovernment contracts and my
local contracts with insurancecompanies and things like that.
I still have to walk thosegreat lines as well, owning the
transportation line as well.
I got a Got about 16 tires,sometimes all at once you know,
(09:25):
for eight vans as the 16 tires.
So Making sure we have that andthat we here, once the vans get
a certain age, we can, you know,flip them out and we can, kind
of, you know, wash the fleet,keeping insurance up on those,
when people just, you know it'sthe law to have insurance with
people team to tend, ding things, so just it's.
(09:46):
It can weigh heavy mentally onthe operation and the
maintenance of keeping things,you know, going.
But I'm built for it, I'mthankful for it.
The video was showed the theoffice locations of the show,
our fleet of vehicles in and outof the show, like our homes,
the glimpses of it.
(10:06):
But he'll get a chance to Bringthis vision of me to life and
what my day is, with a heavy,heavy dash of humor.
It won't be Serious, it won'tbe.
You know, reality TV that'sdrama sizes is reality TV, fully
humor, like you get to see whoI am and I'm a very comical
(10:28):
person.
I'm a comedian, so Everythingwill be magic.
Most things will be, you know,funny but controversial.
But it'll leave you thinkingand educated, what you like.
I want to Come back.
You know I'm saying so.
This person is gonna help mebring that to life, take that
Stress off of my shoulders to beable to try to do that
(10:49):
Videography myself and it's.
I don't have the time to.
I gotta, I gotta, just be thestar baby.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I just gotta be the star so let me ask you this and
what I think and what I was justthinking about this.
So I'm like, well, I think, how, like what I I'm gonna start
doing each time like I'm on theshow and we get to talking.
I want to ask you like, like weshould just randomly ask
question like when, what's themindset that you personally feel
(11:17):
like you have to be in in orderto, personally, as far as like,
because you know, like when youbuy a hot wheels track, it has
the instructions connect this tothat, you know, make the curve
what's the mindset that you, asan individual, has, that that
you have in order to be able totry and build this role that you
have no instructions to?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Um, that's a really good question, thank you.
Thank you for asking that.
From what I learned on myjourney is Take as many breaks
as you need to, especially ifthere's no directions.
You don't want to get too awfulprogress that you you can gauge
(11:58):
.
You know I'm saying Never stopmoving.
You know, matter what direction, just keep momentum.
And sometimes you'll have totake a step back because you
didn't learn a lesson there.
You got to learn that lesson.
You got to kind of re-up andrecoup from that to learn how,
how do you got to go throughthat to get to that.
(12:18):
You know I'm saying so, I'll.
I'll say that I'll say Giveyourself, be easy on yourself,
do your research.
Okay, do your research.
Make really good guesshypothesis.
One of those Psych yourselfSometimes, like what I find me
(12:42):
now at the place, is I'll havethe vision in my mind of how I
need to start, execute, finish,have the tools to be able to do
it, but then I won't have theenergy to move it.
I won't have the energy to moveit.
I do it another time when, assoon as I think about it, I've
(13:06):
learned as soon as I think aboutit and I see the process I
gotta do.
I got a strike water, iron hot,as they call it.
Once I let it feed, it's out orfizzle down, it's gone.
Now I'm sitting there Kind oflike it was too easy for you
anyway.
It was a bullet anyway.
(13:27):
So, keeping yourself mentallyLike happy or as up as you can,
I tend to find myself willing todo things when I feel good.
You know so I'll.
I'll say that man, and I sayprobably the biggest thing is
acknowledging you.
(13:47):
There is no map.
So what is right or wrong?
What is like?
Can't beat yourself up about it, but Give yourself a pat on the
back foot just moving.
You know how many people staystagnant.
You know how many people feellike ignorant.
They purposely make themselvesignorant.
I Can't.
(14:08):
I can't live in that type ofbliss, can't live it, because I
know too much.
Once you've expanded your mind,it just does not Deflate the
same.
It only don't go back to thesame shape it was.
So Freedom speakers anything orany advice that I can give to
(14:28):
any listeners.
That's a hustler that's Outhere hungry.
That person is really lookingfor direction, looking for a way
you, you looking for signs,you're looking, you're putting
yourself in positions, hopingsomething happens.
Like that, that something willhappen.
Okay, you have to keep moving,you have to keep going.
You can't dictate when yourbreak don't come.
(14:50):
You can't dictate it.
But you got a man.
Opportunity will come.
But when you showing yourselfand you showing up and you
putting yourself in positions,opportunity will catch your
scent.
Man I'm, but it doesn't, itwon't it?
That's not coming to thetalented person in.
(15:10):
That's just not exposingthemselves.
You have to expose yourself.
You have to take that chance.
You would and this is where I'msitting now, even with myself
of like giving this advice,because I have had to sit during
.
I'm sitting there now in awhole another space with the
podcast, with the musicproduction, with the media of
hey, this is me Having art orthings that I'm proud of, that
(15:35):
I've created and done.
Give me your opinion.
So I'm, you got to be ready forthe ridicule.
You got to be ready for thatand be able to bounce off of
that, because it's going to comeand a lot of it is mental
because you know, somebodyhitting you can sting, but what
somebody else they say can stickwith you, it can just stick
(15:58):
with you and you is just playingin your head.
So, mentally, prepare yourselfas much as you can keep yourself
as happy, as much as you canprogram yourself for a good time
.
A slither sanctuary, programthat, if it's uh, if it's
lighting up your joint, if it'sgetting you your, your beer, if
(16:20):
it's like a man, in my littlecheat food and eat my little
reese cup, I'm uh.
If it's just, you know,flirting with your lady, if it's
just, you know, whatever it isthat gets you feeling good and
get you, you get your mojo going.
You can't forget to do the taskBecause you didn't, you know,
tease yourself with somepleasure, but you got to be able
to be like a man.
That's, I gotta handle thisbecause this is gonna be my
(16:44):
reward later.
This, this drink gonna be myreward later.
My love, my love smoke gonna bemy reward later.
Uh, you know, getting some bunsgonna be my reward later.
Man, and I say this, man Justspeakin free, free as fuck.
Man like I'm like Getting someass, getting some sex in the, in
the diet.
(17:05):
That's all of about 76, 77% ofthe problems.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Man, help me think a little clearer.
If I get to stretch a bit more,I'm like huh, for 20 years
younger.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't work thatprobably a good little sweat.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
But uh, I feel, uh, I feelrecreated, I feel worked out, I
feel feel good.
So I'll take that momentum andsay, all right, let me go ahead
and Get domestic on some shit,let me clean house on things,
let me go to the business andhandle some stuff, let me.
(17:42):
But I, I'll ride that good wave.
So it's, it really starts withthe mental.
If I can give any, if I cangive anything, it starts with
your mental.
What you program start, let me,let me retract your start in
your mental.
Okay, I don't want to subjectit to just one thing.
(18:02):
It starts with you as the being.
All right, I know people whowould, some of you that they
don't have brains but they gotheart.
They got heart.
Okay, all right.
(18:22):
It starts with the being andwhatever powers you have in
there.
Once you feel you want to letthese powers out and these
powers can come out through art,normally, through skills,
through desires Once you letthese out, you get to see how
(18:46):
different, how the same we areby how different we are, how our
art speaks.
But it, though it's my art.
You connect with it like music,like music is.
This is why music is one of themost dangerous things, because
you can, you, you can Make ananthem that people go to war to.
(19:11):
People fight over, fight thepower, fight the power that be.
You know.
I'm saying you got People getmarried to them, you know, have
sex to them.
People got breakups on, butit's like it's a language.
It's a language man.
So Use though it is, you got touse, you know, the door, your
(19:34):
tools.
So it starts with Now, startit's in.
It starts with the being, whatyou find within yourself that
you want to bring out and sharewith the world.
The world has the freedom Toshare something back, and
everybody might not and theirbeing have art.
Some might have hate, my, somemight have trauma, some might
(19:59):
have been scolded by things thatjust they shouldn't have to
endure.
So when they don't know how tocome up with something that's
possibly beautiful, they'recoming up with something that
that's paying for ugly becauseit represents how they feel.
You know so you got to be Lyridthat it's gonna happen.
You can't have a good withoutthe bad, can't have a good
(20:25):
without the bad.
You is just.
That's the yin and the yang.
Good things.
So Freedom of speakers, if Ican give any other advice is
Learn to take the good With thebad.
Happy ain't as happy.
Happy ain't as happy withoutthe sad.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
No, but no, I agree, it definitely.
I feel like it starts withoneness.
You know, like Happens justunderstanding, having an
understanding about shit.
You know, I personally feellike when you actually just can
just have like a certain likelevel of understanding, like
whereas, like, some people mayget mad about certain things if
you can just say, well, you know, it's actually like this, but I
(21:10):
do get it though, but I'm okayLike when you have oneness and
you can actually understand likeboth sides of the fence,
understand everything.
At least try to try to have anunderstanding about things.
When situations arise, when youdo try to like level up or even
or here, like it could even be,it could even be like you start,
like you start your businessand you feel so heavily inspired
(21:32):
as you just want to just jumpand start Another one, but then
jump start another one and justlike what you're saying, like
you know, even like with tryingto build that road, you know you
don't necessarily know what'sgoing to happen, so long as you
try, so long as you try.
But there's also nothing wrongwith doubling.
There's also nothing wrong withgoing back and read, you know,
(21:53):
and refining what you currentlyhave, going on, even to just,
even if that means you just wantto just build up just a little
bit more confidence and yourselfto be able to take on, like
that next challenge you know, orthat you know, or that next
thing, or whatever it could benever, things is just about
being okay with where you wrapup, understanding that so long
as you're trying to make thesemoves and do it, something's
(22:15):
going to happen.
Like you said, the universe isgoing to react some way somehow.
And so long as you're from whatI've seen so long as you're
trying to put in the right typeof energy and you know what your
, you know what your goal is,you can see the bullshit come,
but you won't, you know, evenlike that shit stick with you.
Eventually you get to having,you get to having, uh, you know,
(22:37):
dodging a bit like my homerally, like what?
Like you didn't even touch mytrick boy, you know, you ain't
even touched me.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to, and I think you
mentioned it on the last one ofthe other episodes.
After a while certain thingswill become automatic.
You'll know it's gonna be apart of the game.
You're gonna know you'll beable to predict a little bit
better when certain things arecoming.
You'll catch a rhythm.
So when you're, when you arethis far in the game and I kind
(23:10):
of give a lot of people Latelylike the origins of us, you know
, from sewer to entrepreneur,please keep continue to listen
people, for you know thosesegments and things I kind of
just drop in a little bitsometime from show to show.
But when we started thebusiness, you know, I had a
mentor who I love and I'm reallyappreciative of the information
(23:35):
man, louis Thompson.
He gave me a lot of information.
He was seasoned in this field,had his agency going,
transferred his business intomultiple other things and you
know kind of he didn't live anddie with Healthcare like myself.
He, you know, ventured intoother stuff, blossom into great
things, but I continued to growinto this and tap into other
(23:58):
industries within this.
But he was the person who gaveme the initial game of how to
Get into the healthcare industry.
Such as myself.
We are contracted with the boardof developmental disabilities,
dodd for short.
We take care of individuals whohave intellectual and
(24:19):
intellectual and developmentaldisabilities.
We provide 24-hour healthcareservice, residential and we
provide transportation.
These are all three differentbusiness entities.
Residential is a business onits own, transportation is a
business on its own, and adultday is a business on its own.
We run them all simultaneously.
(24:44):
It's we started with justdrop-in sites.
We started with just having thethe wheel to want to work,
having a hustle, and once mymentor was able to help me with
the paperwork which is the easypart of things, as I sit 11
years in Documentation is theeasiest part of running a
(25:07):
business.
Once we got certified and yougot my I got the LLC and I got
my tax ID, it was like Okay, Ithought the money was gonna roll
in.
No, now it's time to bring yourbusiness business.
Can you market, can youadvertise, do you understand a
(25:28):
certain level of sales, do youhave a certain People skills, do
you have a customer servicevoice, do you can you dress
appropriately?
So just a Lot of things thatmakes you have to step up on A
different echelon level.
I knew how to provide care andto hand care.
(25:51):
But I didn't know how toprovide care through a business,
so still Faking it till youmake it.
But I Didn't.
I didn't forget to make it.
Even before Business I wasresourceful.
I was a resourcefulmotherfucker.
Now I'm a resourcefulmotherfucker Still still the
(26:18):
same me just in hands, tappinginto that.
I can do more.
I Can do more, I can help more.
I can be able to Be that.
But before then I was on theplace where I needed help.
So I know how it feels tosomebody giving you a break,
throwing you some rope, givingyou an opportunity, and you,
like I, can't fumble this man,cuz it makes us both look bad.
(26:39):
I fuck up on you looking outfor G and then I'm sitting back.
People mad yeah, nobody helping, nobody ain't they gonna top,
ain't looking out.
It's like it's hard enough forfor him to Take care of himself,
let alone give an outshitter,being generous or feeding
(27:01):
people's entitlement.
You know it's a difficult thing.
I was actually hurtful, but Justunder understanding, like you,
understanding your goals,understanding where you want to
be.
Everybody can't go andeverybody won't go.
That's another hurtful part ofit, and we learn these things
(27:21):
just early, when we would makelike certain gains.
We would get one or two clientsand we would get some callbacks
and even though they'll be so,be denials, but it still be like
, hey, you didn't get thisclient, but hey, I got somebody
else in mind.
Or they'll like our personalityenough and say, hey, I think
this will be a good fit for you.
And Every little bit man Ilearned from my wife, learned
(27:44):
from she's with me every step ofthe way.
So, just, I always had a keenfor hustle and knowledge, man
for education, just a sponge,brah, I'm still a sponge.
Now.
I Got a little mule, you wantme.
I ain't got ringed out in agood time.
I need to get swallowed up realgood Swallowed, scooped and
(28:10):
swallowed.
But All of that man, you knowI'm still a sponge to soak up
that information and thatknowledge and apply it.
I heard Nipsey say one timelike you know, I still game, I
still hustle.
You know I'm saying he like ifI hear you saying something or
(28:30):
doing something, I like that.
You know I'm saying that Imight, you know, borrow that
from you.
I'm saying just on some hepieces together.
Yeah, like yeah for sure.
So what I like to say is like,I mean, I'll adopt some of that.
Yeah, I'll take a little pieceof this, twist it up, boom, boom
, boom, do a little thing to myown, but I guess I made it my
(28:52):
own.
But just showing how much tolike, I see you, I'm thankful
that I was around to catch thatfrom you.
Hey, this what I built fromjust just watching you on one of
them, like, oh yeah, I guess Icould see what you know I'm
saying I can respect.
It's all inspiration, bro,that's you know, it's all.
It is man and showing.
(29:13):
So I tell you this man Freedomspeakers, if you didn't know,
marcellus is an artist beyondjust Painting homes and decor
interior, exterior, things ofthat nature.
Man, he's a legitimate artist.
I have artwork in my home ofthis man's that I know.
Fucking.
No, bro, one day is gonna beworth way is gonna be an
(29:38):
astronomical number that Peoplegonna be putting up their houses
and cars to be able to like hey, I just want one of these.
I want one of these Clays up inmy home, right, this clay
addition.
You know I'm just making upshit.
You can have it if you like.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
People buy art.
Okay, so that's one thing.
People buy art and art isn'tone.
It's a subjective Okay, justlike comedy, just like music is
subjective is.
It may not be for everybody,but there's a value of it.
Go up when you got originals andthen the person popularity
(30:19):
pretty much goes up.
Brother, you, oh shit, gonnacontinue to rise and I'm gonna
be one of my motherfuckerscoming out the back like, no, I
got an original.
Okay, I got an original of thisman's man when we was just
chopping it, smoking, talkingshit and plans, and then we we
seen these plans come to life.
(30:41):
Now we live in the plans, right, which is a who freedom
speakers to bring it full circle, from starting from business
and nothing, with just a hope ina dream, to sitting sometimes
In a place where I got a beat.
Like I have to have a realitycheck from family and friends
and and people who knew mebefore, a certain level of
(31:03):
Success, if you will, that itkeeps me grounded, it lets me
know, oh, people like people whoreally care for me, who really
love me.
At the same time, it brings acertain, a certain feeling of
like thankfulness, a certainfeel of Y'all I gotta check my
(31:25):
reality like am I really livingwhat I said I wanted?
I I'm like, I'm in.
I'm in the simulation that Ibuilt myself.
So it's.
It takes people who love me togive me that reality check like,
amen, I.
You may remember when your mamaI'm gonna whoop your ass at the
(31:48):
school one day because he wasfucking up the teacher car.
He just came to slap the shitout you in front of your class
mates.
Yeah, I remember that.
Can one.
I remember that, nigga man.
I remember when you got hit bythe car on Sandy.
First you fucked that lady carup and you had your afro getting
up.
Him is like damn you, right if Iforgotten who I am.
(32:12):
And it's like no, you, you, weknow, you know who you are is
just real niggas gonna remind.
Keep them remind.
They're on your ass too, justso you don't get out of line and
it's you be told sometimes.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Sometimes there are, there are instances where you
may not have a lot of peoplearound you or mine of you, who
you are.
And it's funny that youactually mention it because,
like I Fought myself recently,just like I, just I was talking
my little brother, I foundmyself recently just like
telling him, like you know,since I've started you know
(32:47):
we're having you know doingbusiness and started you know
doing pretty good, I've beengoing back and like retrying
shit that I necessarily Retryingshit that I gave up on, like
you know well, it's like a videogame or you know they could be
retry to read, draw.
It could be trying to draw orpaint something.
It was like you know what.
Let me go back and try and seeif I progress as like a person
(33:11):
and Damn like hell, I've evensat like I like anime.
But you can't really say likeanime unless you're willing to
sit down and watch like the full, like Japanese, and like read
it Fool.
I was Benz watching Boruto, thestory about Naruto son, like I
was been watching that wholeentire show, tried doing it
before.
It was just like yeah, I can'tdo this like, but decided to
(33:33):
give it a try, give it a tryagain.
It was good like even likegoing back and playing certain
games that I might have given upon or felt like I probably
Played the game a thousand timesbetter.
In fact, he took the time outto actually learn how to like
actually play the game.
So you know, but, but even, but, even more so, like just going
back and just like, even likerewatching.
(33:53):
Like certain cartoon shows Iactually like watch, watch
growing up, just rewatching it,or just actual TV shows, like it
really didn't matter.
But sometimes you need to likedo little stuff tonight.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, some things that, uh, that can remind you of
yourself, that remind you oflike Good times, remind you like
you say, that's this Nostalgicmoments that's all I like to
call them nostalgic moments takeyou back to a Placing your
youth, your childhood, a good,happy, good, happy moment.
You know I'm saying someplacethat it's someplace that that
(34:29):
only People who knew you we alldidn't have nothing know you.
You know I'm saying so freedomspeakers.
Have you ever been at a placeor ever dealt with somebody and
you had to get them a realitycheck and the good or bad way?
But you know, let them know.
Like, hey, baby, you know, Isee what you're doing.
I want to let you know keepdoing what you doing.
(34:49):
I remember all phases of you.
I'm happy to see you.
Where you are now, baby, goodjob.
Or Sometimes you could be likea Calm your wild ass down.
You ain't the king of things,you ain't the queen of shit.
You acting like your ass don'tstink either.
Let us know if you have freedomspeakers, we would love to hear
(35:10):
from you so more.
I got one, one heavy questionfor you.
When you find yourself at aplace where you stressed out and
you like, hey, man, I'm not,you know, I'm in my feelings of
whatever, whatever, whatever.
Give me just one or two thingsthat you do that can help you
kind of bring about it Well.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I try to, I try to, I try to, for one self, like,
self-examine myself.
So you know they're.
You know like if it was, if itwas a situation like I'm mad I
could have like done better,make a better choice of like, or
try to bit more Harder orwhatever, then I'll definitely
try more hardest to like, sitdown and like, just really just
analyze everything.
(35:51):
If I'm right, then cool, likeI'm right and I'll be fine and
like I'll be fine.
But if I know that I'm wrong,then like I'll try and do what I
can to fix it.
But so long as I know the factthat I've tried to do what I can
to fix it, it whatever happens.
After that it happens and Ican't control it.
So I show my, I try my eyes, tryto show myself a level of grace
(36:11):
and like my, like meditation,when I meditate, I try to, just
I try to find some type of grace, whether it is I'm right or
whether I'm wrong, show myselffrom grace.
The other thing that I also dois Sometimes I see, sometimes do
, sometimes I don't sleep,sometimes like I'll try my
hardest to fall asleep and likeI'll find myself back up Like
(36:35):
two hours, sometimes even likearound the same time, like by,
like by four in the morning, Ifind myself just up and like no
desire to watch TV, no desire toreally do anything besides.
Just still try to figure it out.
I try to, I try to, I try toresort to Internally, like
making sure that, likeeverything is like one up and up
(36:56):
for the most part, soself-reexamining, making sure
that like I'm not in the wrong,you know, or just you know, and
then also to just saying, nexttime I'm gonna just do this so
and I've learned that I've cometo see that like my level of
stress has been like I still getstress, but it's not as bad as
(37:16):
like it used to be.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
You've been finding yourself like in a healthier
space, or you.
What you've been doing has beenworking accountability Thing of
the word accountability.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've been just accepting accountability, even
if I'm wrong, still acceptingaccountability Because honestly,
I don't want a hard day.
I don't want a rough day likenone whatsoever, accountable.
So I try to be accountable withwhatever the situation is, no
(37:52):
matter what, and that helps mekeep a level of stress down
because for one, it's like I canlive with it.
I can live with it whether it'sgood or bad.
I can live with it.
So long as I know that Iactually tried to make a better
outcome for it, I just let it go.
I will stress like shit.
No, I honestly shit.
I stress when my pockets getlow.
That's what stresses me out,that's what makes me like,
(38:14):
that's what turns me to amotherfucking bear.
That's what makes me mad whenmy pockets get low yeah, pockets
, get low stomach, get hungryman.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
We can't be friends right now.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
What's this feeling coming over me?
Sleep.
I don't even fucking know you.
I'm broke.
I ain't got no sleep.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
No, I gotta try and figure out how to get it Right.
So I'll say this real quick man, when we were talking about
taking this step back freedomspeakers.
I have curriculums that I teachthrough my Ben Boston Business
Academy Just information I'velearned just from a self-made
entrepreneur.
Information in my own, justpretty much my own story, but
(38:55):
the financial things that I'velearned.
And then I'm still learning.
I'm no financial guru, but I'mextremely disciplined.
I am extremely disciplined.
I am a penny-pension frugal,extremely generous motherfucker.
I got a whole budget just to benice.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know what I'm saying, just a whole budget to
be generous man.
But it's like, hey, I'll writeit off as miscellaneous, I ain't
gonna get this $50 back.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I ain't gonna get this $100 back.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Fuck it, it's in the wind.
You know what I'm saying, butit's like I know I can't let
certain things get below acertain margin, because not a
machine not running smooth, justlike, hey, you got to keep the
oil and the engine at a certainlevel because, hey, this is
optimal, it runs at its best,right here.
(39:51):
Anything below this margin,right here, it starts getting
serious, man.
So when it gets to the money,when it gets to making sure you
collect it, it'll teach you whatto fit it, man.
So it's a freedom speaker,there's a business on it.
(40:12):
It'll teach you how you got tostand on business.
It seems like that's the quoteeverybody's been using.
As a businessman, I've beenlike shit, what the hell, what
the fuck was you standing onbefore business?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
A businessman would like to know.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's for real, right?
What were you standing onbefore?
Principal Accountability, right?
They land Just bull man,whatever it is.
I'm still learning it, man.
So in the Ben Boston BusinessAcademy, this curriculum and I
teach financial literacy, how tounderstand your bands, giving
(40:50):
yourself really some disciplineand accountability.
So I have a.
When I launched this in 2020,launched the Ben Boston Business
Academy in Davis, the differenttiers.
(41:10):
So the first tier was so youwant to be an entrepreneur, huh?
And in that first tier, it kindof gives people just the
insight of what it is to open upyour LLC or your S-Corp.
So keep in mind for people, man, I just want to say this as a
disclaimer.
Okay, just as a disclaimer.
All right, there are otherclassifications in business
(41:33):
besides an LLC.
Okay, I don't have the timetoday to get all into them, but
I'll tell you how I amclassified.
Okay, I am an S-Corp, I am acorporation.
Public broadcasting broadcastedyou about PBS Ken by PBS Ken,
(41:55):
but we're structured as acorporation.
It helps on the benefit oftaxing.
These are not negatives.
These are government laws thatbusinesses are privy to, because
the business is what reallykeeps the economy going.
Everything is operating At thegas station is a business.
(42:17):
Yo, we man in business.
You paying rent is a business.
The grocery store is a business.
Going to get your license is abusiness, all of that, all of
that.
So the first package is hey man,so you really want to be an
entrepreneur?
Huh, kind of breaks down thecurriculum of what it is to get
(42:38):
into business marketing yourself, advertising yourself, getting
you some lines of credit, thingsof that nature.
The second package is hungryfor more.
That's where you have gotten ataste of success.
You got a good system now of oh, I got some traction, I got to
(43:02):
keep up with the demand.
Now.
Your advertisement then workeda little bit.
Your marketing then worked alittle bit.
Your sales pitched and worked alittle bit.
You got a good thing going whenyou meet people.
Now you got a good personality.
You got a good shirt now Got agood pair of shoes.
They see you.
You selling yourself.
You're being Not just yourheart, not just your mind,
(43:25):
you're selling your being.
So when they see you, they'relike hey man, I like him, I like
that guy.
So now you really putting in thework, you're trying to.
You're hungry for it, you'retrying, you are here searching,
you're sharpening yourself up.
You're soaking everything ofyour sponge.
Once you hit a certain level inthere is you're gonna be
(43:50):
promoting up, you're gonna bedeveloping things for people as
you keep building.
Which takes me to my third tier.
That I teach was the money.
Does the work around here?
Now You've then leveled up anddeveloped yourself up to now to,
hey, you can't, you don't havethe time to be out there working
and tinkering on those vansbecause, hey, your time is
(44:14):
better occupied elsewhere,devising plans and building
relationships and gainingresources and just alliances,
different places.
You gotta be able to speak,gotta be face to face with some
of those things, can't be in hertinkering with a van.
You've been developed yourselfup in a position where you got
people who are willing and wantto do that.
(44:36):
They're applying for it andthen now you got potentially
people in a leadership positionthat had they followed those
checks and balances of thosethings, so that now you are
developing.
You want a place where how muchthat costs?
All right, we got a budget forthat.
How much?
What we need to do?
Okay, we got a budget for that.
(44:56):
Okay, man, you know we needwhat.
Okay, hire somebody for that.
You can't do everything duringthe development stage.
Now the money takes care of it.
Your money is working for younow it is handling a lot of the
things in the business is whyyou get to see in any industry,
(45:18):
99 out of 100 times money solvesthe problem.
So, freedom speakers, you canfind me on Instagram.
At permission to number twounderscore speak freely podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You can find me on Instagram at full service
painting.
You can also find me onFacebook by my name or sellers
clay, and you also find me onTikTok at full service painting
as well, for my videos andcontent as well, and uploading
content for the show as wellcoming soon as well.
So you're gonna be getting hitwith it from multiple different
ways, multiple differentplatforms and multiple different
(45:55):
people.
So go ahead and follow along,and what we're gonna be talking
about on the next episode forsure is tapping into a visionary
project that I have in my mind,something that I kind of like I
really really wanna get intoworking like this year, a short
(46:16):
film on pretty much being anentrepreneur.
You know like it's like amixture of like some eight mile
type shit.
You know along with, you knowif you watched HBO's baller.
So you know talking, makingdeals.
You know closing deals, making.
You know saying getting thingsgoing, but also to showing be
(46:41):
the effect of trying to paveyour own way, and the fact that
you, you know you gotta.
You know you gotta answer tosomebody when you're trying to
make a move for real, whenyou're trying to make multiple
moves, you always gotta answerto somebody, but what it boils
down to is this how the fuckdoes it make you feel in a
moment and what is your fuckingdream At the end of the day?
(47:04):
My personal opinion, if youyourself have an exit plan, then
there's no reason in the worldwhy you can't succeed at
whatever that you're trying todo.
So long as you have an exitplan, then you'll always have
avenues to be able to get there,because you already have you
figured out your way out.
Now just trying to figure outhow to put those think, those
(47:25):
gears in place to get there.
So that's what we're gonna talkabout on our next show.
Ken Wan, thanks again for havingme over here.
Good as fucking back as fires.
Fuck for real Niggas.
Feeling good right now, feelingalways, always feeling
motivated when I come throughthis is like you know, this is
(47:48):
my, this is my church, this iswhere I come for to get fed, you
know, to get, you know, to getre-strengthened.
So you know, I appreciate youfor being able to provide this
space and, you know, lookingforward to doing more shit man.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh for sure, man, thank you.
So thank you for that man,thank you for that.
This is my sanctuary.
You know what I'm saying.
This is my lounge 87.
That is, you know, a certain,you know as a certain place in
my heart.
I, like, I spend most of mytime out here.
I think a lot out here, Ihandle a lot of business out
(48:22):
here.
Let's say, I spend a lot oftime out here, I think out here
a lot, I do a lot of businessout here a lot.
I smoke out here a lot.
That helps my nerves.
I'm, I'm, I'm at peace when I'mout here.
This is my office.
This is where, such as yourself, man, you come through to be
(48:45):
able to, you know, hang out,kick it, recharge, get inspired,
motivated.
You know we strengthen eachother and, you know, go out to
the world stronger than we camein.
Well, so, freedom speakers,thank you for tuning in.
Once again, we out cheers.
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