TV Dad Parenting Styles, Shackin Up in your 20's, and Michigan Football Controversy

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Ever wondered how iconic sitcom dads can influence your parenting style? Join us on this roller-coaster episode of Permission to Speak Freely Podcast as we reference some of TV's favorite fathers - from Uncle Phil of Fresh Prince to Bernie Mac, Carl Winslow of Family Matters, and Julius from Everybody Hates Chris. 

We share our blend of parenting techniques, emphasizing humor, authority, and love. We also delve into discipline, accountability, and the importance of community in raising children. Discover how we navigate these avenues in our journey of fatherhood, and perhaps pick up a few unconventional tips along the way.

Taking a humorous detour, we engage in candid conversations on women's names and the notion of older women hitting their sexual prime. Buckle up as we challenge stereotypes, societal expectations, and discuss empowerment through owning one's body and sexuality. 

But the fun doesn't stop there - we also dive into neighborhood lawn care competitiveness, injury mishaps, and the intricacies of relationship dynamics. Packed with anecdotes, personal experiences, and even a touch of sports controversy, this episode is bound to hold your attention from start to finish.

As we reflect on our personal stories, we also discuss the idea of "shackin up" and the skills gained from marriage and relationships. We emphasize the importance of resolving differences and being accountable to one another. 

Lastly, we touch on the allegations of Michigan's football signal stealing, further highlighting the importance of accountability and integrity in all aspects of life. So whether you're a parent seeking unconventional wisdom or just looking for a good laugh, join us on this enlightening episode of Permission to Speak Freely Podcast. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for bringing us here on this, on
this happy Friday, on this, onthis very, very happy Friday.
Thank you for bringing ustoward another weekend.
Thank you for once againbringing the big three, but it's
podcast.
Permission to speak freelytogether One more time and we

(00:23):
look to to honor you withwhatever we choose to discuss
today.
We ask that you put something,something good on our minds,
something good on our hearts,put something on us, give us a
word from you, but through us,to get to the people.
Once again, thank you forbringing us here one more time.

(00:45):
Permission to speak freely,amen.
Amen a woman.
Good day people.
Yeah listeners journeymen.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Here ye, here ye, here ye.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Romans.
One of my favorite episodesthat was on that was Damien Wang
.
Yeah, those that don't knowfreedom speakers, that's Damien
Wang from the TV show.
My wife and kids he was down.
He ain't get that man of theyear for sure.
Yeah, we're sure.
Damien Wayne is one of myfavorite comedians and I like to

(01:26):
model my father Style kind ofafter him.
Yeah, he psychologicallytortured the kids more than like
whooping they ass but fuckingin a bed though.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, you want to put him out the house.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Mama saved him.
Don't know what about how.
I just think it go Blow thehorn loudest fucking way, good
man.
So, tell me this man, what doyou?
What do you?
What father style Do you use?
It's a blend.
I actually already have this.

(02:05):
It's a blend between threeSikon fathers.
Um, not that I think about itfor, but I'm gonna just let me
just go with my three and I'llgive an honorable mention.
It's the perfect blend betweenUncle Phil Philip Banks Rest in
peace James Avery um and BernieMac, because I don't give a fuck

(02:26):
, but I do for sure but I do um.
I Remember when my firstdaughter was on the way.
She'd be four soon, great.
But yeah, it's like two monthsShe'd be four.
Like mother Um shout out toNisi poop, yeah, she should be
four.
But I remember she was in wayslike she gone, she gone soft.

(02:48):
And you look, she don't watch.
Use my mother-in-law to shoutto mama rock, she gone soft.
And you what?
You gonna be good cuz you gotthe boys.
Now you had a girl.
Oh, yeah, she gonna change.
Oh, I still don't give a fuck,I still.
You can get it to, you can getit to.
She begins smart with her mama.
She's got this thing.
Now you have to do some.

(03:08):
Linus, go finish your sandwich.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's where the Bernie come out.
That's when the Bernie come out.
Okay, but the uncle Phil comeout, you know, because he just
just being a leader of leaders.
You know, sam, he started offearly in the show.
He's a lawyer and then he judgebanks.
You know, sam fofa philip banks.
And then I gotta throw my man,carl wins, low in there.

(03:37):
Hmm, gotta throw Carl wins lowin there as a perfect blend.
My honor will mention was aJulius From.
Everybody hates Chris.
Just cuz a nigga gotta be a nowings.
We ain't going to Wendy'stonight.
We got burgers here.
I can make fries.
You mean the potatoes?
Grab that knife, come on, wecan.

(03:58):
We get name friends next now.
Just a little Obvious, behaving to be frugal sometime.
Hey look, this is what we doing, that's what we not.
So that's my, that's my blend,my mesh of Fathers.
I got them there, took them on.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I like that man.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So no, you ain't, you ain't take a moment.
So let's keep in mind these are.
You don't have to be thatfather to be in that row.
Yeah, so Mine was definitelywill be Michael J Kyle.
Yeah, he's like he the pointyou run in the point of these
teams, especially cuz he's sucha big-ass fan of Jordan as well.
Yeah, so, and LeBron Lebanon.

(04:38):
Jane Fina, the Fina.
So it would be Damien Wayne asMichael Kyle from my father and
kids, my wife and kids, that I'mgonna make a show called my
father and kids.
It's gonna be mine.
You heard it.
You heard it here first, peoplefrom from chief Ali my father

(04:59):
and kids show coming soon.
All right, so it would.
The next would be Damien Wayne,again, but as major, get the.
Winner fuck pain.
Just one of those like I Loveyour boy and it's gonna be tough
, cuz I'm gonna be on where I'mgonna be on your ass, like why

(05:21):
don't rice and the paper plateand the glass of milk in the
snow?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
storm.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Fuck them kids, but hey, I love, I love them so much
that is fuck them.
Hey, that makes perfect, senseto me, makes perfect like that
sentence right there Did like Iunderstand how some people go
goddamn, that made so much sensebecause that's something that
we live by here after mission tospeak for it.

(05:45):
Fuck them kids, especially ifyou take care them.
That's the only way it work.
That's the old, that's the keyto get in.
Yeah, you can't say fuck themkids and really like you don't
do shit for oh, yeah.
So usually fuck them kids isfollowed by Let me get my ass up
and cook so they can getsomething on exactly.

(06:07):
Give me a scenario of where thephrase or the Fucking mantra
sometimes don't fuck them kids,comes into play.
Give me, give me a real lifescenario to where you go oh,
fuck them.
Give give me one, I'll give youa current.
When people so listen in In ourworld.

(06:29):
Today it is Friday and mostFridays it's.
We wake up on a good note witha healthy level of fucked them
kids, only because we made it tothe end of the week.
Friday is a is a universal date.
It was both of.

(06:49):
We made it is.
We get a little bit ofrelaxation and I Kind of check
out as a parent for a little bit.
I'll say you know what the kidsdoing?
What man fuck them kids They'vebeen.
He did what, like AJ, I went tohis open house yesterday and I'm

(07:15):
and I want to shout him out,son, and I know you listening
man, so yo, yo, old man is proudof you.
I want to make sure the worldknow that I'm proud of you.
Son, shout out to you thatFrisbee keep doing the school
thing.
He is actually a AB student.
Oh, yeah, he actually is a ABstudent and every year he has
one Subject.
That's difficult, that kind ofmaking that be student for real

(07:38):
or be man Fucking up, get you abee, I take it so when I get to.
When we was at his open houseand the teachers are showing,
hey, yeah, he started at thescene and he Made some gains.
Now he's at an A or you know,and he has some tests.

(08:01):
He redid it, but he was able tokind of level his self up boom,
boom, boom.
On the academic side, I'mextremely proud, 100%.
When it comes to the socialside, I Was sitting back
listening to the teachers in agentle way, like hey, he's a
little bit of a class clown.

(08:22):
Yeah, he's a kidder, he's ajokester.
Um, he can.
His grades can be better if heactually focused a little bit
more.
Yeah, and in the brief momentof me hearing this Fuck them
kids, it was this motherfuckerdoing good man.
He kind of almost might bebored.

(08:44):
Yeah, he might need to bechallenged just a little bit
more.
For sure they didn't.
Yeah, they've been eating thatsometimes, so I'm okay with that
that.
Fuck them kids kicked in oflike man.
I want to hear that.
Shit.
This nigga passing me, but Ibut it still was it.
I wanted, it still was a.
Hey man, this is the teacher'sroom, this is their arena.

(09:08):
Don't heck with the teachers.
You have an arena yourselfwhich is here at permission to
speak freely.
Podcast our boys are on the ads.
Go download the ad.
Go download every episode.
That's how we get our rankingsup, that's how we get our
listens up.
People go and download each oneof those episodes.

(09:28):
Go share it, comment,especially on Spotify.
You can be able to leavequestions for us to be able to
talk to you people.
We really want to become alittle bit more engaged.
Help us out, y'all engage.
So me having that moment withthe teacher and I'm kind of just
saying to him I'm at fuck thatthe kids moment.
I felt good as a parent to belike, okay, he's doing good

(09:50):
academically, but I gotta checkmyself because his personality
is mine, yeah, it is mine, sohey.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
When that long ago your ass was sitting in that
second grade class Talking shit.
Talking shit, done with my work, a little bit Fuckin' with you.
You can't finish yours.
No, you ain't done yet, bruh.
No, that's wrong yeah.
It's clearly be you a dummy, youa dummy, dumb.
And you had them clothes onyesterday.

(10:21):
You had flame hot Cheeto standin your pants, I could tell.
So I'm having to just stillrealize myself like in my career
I can't 100% be serious.
Yeah, and I run a company man.
So I'm in orientation, I'minterviewing people.

(10:41):
I'm coming in asking goofy shitLike do you put the peanut
butter on your bread first?
Or the jelly, tell me.
And he's like, oh yeah, itdetermines your future.
This nigga, this nigga thisnigga choked the staff and
roleplay Like we was giving likereal scenarios on what things

(11:02):
that may occur on a job.
This nigga choked diamond rose.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Chick had it come.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
She was doing good, she was not prepared for she was
not prepared and anything canhappen.
Protect yourself at all times.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Protect yourself at all times Protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
So she broke the rule .
So I get it.
Man, I'm a comical person, I'ma comedian.
Okay, I have to identify withthat and it protects me for what
I say.
Hey, I'm a comic, hey he wasleaving me alone.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
That was a comedian.
That's the shio right.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Hey, he was leaving me alone.
I'm supposed to make shit funny, right, right too far Little
bit.
So I'm just getting to see himlike, be himself, his
personality.
I don't wanna, I don't wannaknock that light out of him.
It's not necessary, but itshould be controlled and
mannered.
So me just expressing to him infront of the teachers like hey,

(12:03):
man, this is their arena, allowthem to do theirs.
You got your place to do yours,right, you're not even right.
All right, let's continue tokeep it growing.
Man, give them the spaceThey've earned it.
Man, do not disrupt me.
Yes, dad, I got you.
Dad, you write that.
I gotta get that, gotta getthat girl, yeah.
So I would like to end on thatsegment of fuck them kids

(12:27):
brought to you by chief Ali, andlay low the most.
Salute, salute.
I don't wanna tap your littlechair.
What we trying to get to work.
Blessings, yeah, bluh, shoutout for the people.
So, moving into the nextsegment of things, man, research

(12:52):
and development.
We like to call this our R&Dsegment.
Tell me and speak freely, man,what have you researched about
yourself that pushed you into aplace that now you gotta develop

(13:13):
?
Oh, you damn near snatched thewords like out my mouth sorter.
I was in your notes, my bag no.
But it gets to a point just likeon the business side of the
thing, where it's like, well, ifnot meeting who, If not now,
then when?
Yeah, like that's become atheme Just in my own.
It's nothing that I say toanybody or talking to anybody

(13:37):
about, but it comes now to itand it's like, well, if I don't
do this, then who?
You know what I'm saying?
Who should it fall off?
Who can it fall on?
Nobody, it's me.
It just needs to be addressed,it needs to be taken care of.
It gotta be handled.
When it comes down to the toughconversations, when it comes
down to the tough decisions,shit gotta be handled.

(13:59):
I ran into somebody who I firedyesterday.
It's not comfortable.
You were at that place.
Huh, yeah, I was.
You were at that place huh.
Yes, it's not comfortable, but Iknew that it was uncomfortable
for her, so I had to make it.
Hey, justin, you ain't gotta dothat.

(14:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh, hey, you saw me.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
You fucking know who I am, you saw me, you know what
I'm saying.
But kind of tapping into thatas well, like, hang on, I need
to be the Almost like anauthoritative figure, if you
will.
And we ain't talking about thekids, no more.
But just on the aspect of, hey,I'm a leader Lead Period.

(14:49):
So that's some research anddevelopment for your ass.
That I've been kind of chatting, still working on it, like I
ain't got it.
I ain't got it.
But the conversations withmyself I talk to myself but I
don't speak back.
I ask the questions but I don'tanswer them out loud.
That's when something's goingon.
I know you, we're gonna get yousome help, but, uh, people,

(15:12):
please help me out, please.
But, um, but that's definitelysomething that's been going on
with me and just sitting bymyself and it's like I gotta
take care of this, gotta addressthis.
Let's go get it done, let's goget it done.
What about you, man?
You got any research anddevelopment going on lately.
Oh yeah, often man, often oftenman.

(15:33):
So one of the um, the ones thathas surfaced for me on the
research and development is, um,family, and how much family is
very important to me, how largeof a family I would love to have
, and just kind of, and what Ideveloped to be able to sustain

(15:53):
that and have that.
But I also researched in myselfof knowing when I do have these
beautiful things that I wantand I can obtain, uh, I wanna I
had to, I wanna be able to speakabout which the sacrifices that
come inside to be able to keepit and maintain it, and how
targets come on you when you areworking towards those goals

(16:15):
that you do obtain and you doachieve.
As you just mentioned, man, um,you sitting at leadership
position and you had to make aleadership call and just on your
day to day you've seen someonethat you had that you cross
paths with.
Y'all Y'all.
We were just passing throughtype of thing with each other.
Now you see this person with noties in his and it's fresh too.

(16:37):
This didn't happen like a yearago.
This is all your vibe, you like?
Matter of fact, two weeks agoto the day Today, extremely
awkward 13 days like you.
all right, it's like a breakup.
I miss you.
I miss you.
We'll go on to that storyanother time.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Man man.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So I've had to re, I've had to In my research of
myself, I had to understand whatI would have, the sacrifice
that comes with obtaining thesethings, maintaining these things
in defendant.
So freedom speakers man, I am ahuge, huge family person.
Okay, huge own family I'm hugeon love.

(17:26):
Yeah man, I love the kids.
I protect the kids.
Chief, love the kids.
Hey man, if your kids is at ourhouse and one kid get ass
whooping, by right, justunanimously fair they all gonna
get ass whooping.
I don't like that rule.
It's a team effort.
If they at our house and we andwe buy a bike for one, they all

(17:50):
get a bike.
I like that rule.
It's unanimous.
I like that rule, it'sunanimous.
Y'all a team, so it's a teameffort.
You gotta hold the next man toyou accountable.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know what I'm saying?
It's one of those like whogonna get the ass whooping first
.
Whoever didn't deserve it gonnaget to go last because he tired
now.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I remember he might not get the ass whooping.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
This is so crazy man, I gotta share this story.
It's kind of a two-in-one sortof story.
Man, when I was a kid, mybrother and my sister and I went
to a babysitter, miss Nisha.
We on the 114th, miss Nisha onlike 112, 111.
Coming up, man, I did not likeeating my vegetables.
You know what I'm saying.

(18:35):
Typical kid Didn't not likeeating my vegetables.
Man, especially spinach.
To this day I eat just aboutevery vegetable.
Now Spinach I still can't getwith cooked spinach.
Let me be clear, because I'llfuck with some raw spinach and
the salad.
My wife puts the shit in thesoup that she making.

(18:56):
It's kind of in there mixed inwith the rest of the good shit.
I cannot just pop hot as shit.
I can't do it.
I have yet to meet anybody whomade some good.
I'm gonna do spinach.
Good as fuck has not happened.
I fucking love greens.
I fucking love green beans.
Broccoli is my favoritevegetable.
Carrots I do some succotage.
Mixed that shit together,niggapese, all the shit I don't

(19:20):
really get into.
Like motherfucking.
What's that shit called?
Fucking Brussels sprouts?
Ocra my grandma used to do ocra.
I didn't even fuck with thatshit.
She get all slimy and you cookit too long.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I do some fried.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That'sparagus.
You gotta cook it, right.
Yeah, I do a spare.
I fuck with a spare.
You know what I'm saying, butnot so, man.
She left me and a baby in thekitchen for a second.
I take my plate of spinach andI put that shit between the
refrigerator and the couch, satback down like this I ate it, I

(19:52):
ate it, I ate it.
This is how I ate it, thoughY'all like, a week later, that
shit starts stinking like a.
That shit starts stinking likea motherfucking man.
She pulled her refrigerator out.
Who put this spinach Bitterrefrigerator?

(20:13):
I've always been an accountable,even from a kid.
You know what I'm saying.
Mommy coming to house, Y'allhad company in here.
My sister, no, y'all hadcompany in here.
My brother no, mom, y'all hadpeople in my house, yeah, but
it's never been like a.

(20:34):
See, now, that proved my point.
Keep your pace and do it.
Because one didn't stick to therule.
Everybody gotta get asked forit, and we did, because it
wasn't like a me snitching onthem thing.
It was like yeah, mom, we did,we was us.
You know what I'm saying.
Zayn Juice was here too.
My friends were here.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You'd have made everybody get asked for it, we
all in here.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
But I was always kind of accountable like that.
So when Ms Nisha asked me whoput the spinach in the
refrigerator, it's kind of likeMe.
You know what I'm saying.
It was me.
You know, she chest ties mewith her before and I don't know
if my mom assigned this part ofthe paperwork, but she whooped
us, hey, mama.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Nisha, you gotta say something about that now she
fucking whooped us.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
She fucking whooped us.
And what's crazy is man?
You get to a point and man, shewas my babysitter from
kindergarten to Not like firstto third grade, some shit like
that.
And I get to the point in mychildhood to where it's almost
like these whoopings don't hurt,but I know you want me to cry,

(21:44):
you know what I'm saying.
So they start whooping your asswith some effort now.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It had to get some shit.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
It's kind of like you used to be like put your pants
down.
Now it's like put your pantsdown and lift the shirt up.
So it's like pull your drawersdown, bend over the edge of the
couch.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Don't look at me.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's like Shit, like that man.
So she had us, like I won't say, lined up in the room, but I
happened to come up when the asswhooping circus was going on.
She had like six kids and thencome in, you two go on back Next
and you'll come back and getlike three sets of three.
You're like nine lashes.

(22:23):
That's how I was having to comeup the stairs while the ass
whooping rink is happening andshe oh yeah, you two.
I'm like fuck, I should havestayed downstairs.
Shit, she forgot about me inthis penance incident three
fucking days ago.
You know, I come up there.
She Look at me.
I'm like, yeah, you don't sayit, but like she's, my Mama

(22:54):
needs you guys.
You got 24 hours to respond.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It went bad I wouldn't dare say.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
it was on the lines of like people should not like
that and you guys would.
You know, we from a time whereit's like it takes a village,
you know what I mean.
I gotta say I didn't get like.
My older brother was the onewho got the ass whooping by the
time she was tired of whoopingby the time she got done with

(23:19):
his ass.
You know what I'm saying, outof breath and shit.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Right on, just don't do it like this, but it is one
whooping that I remember to thisday.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I don't know what the fuck I did.
Somebody lied on me.
I never got an answer for that.
I never got a notice in themail.
This is what that whooping wasfor.
You know what I'm saying.
I never got the.
I know this is gonna hurt you,but it's gonna hurt me more.
I didn't get it, but I was inthe shower and to this day, when
I'm in the shower, I'm lockingthe door.

(23:49):
Now it ain't necessary to keepnobody out.
It's a muscle somehow in mymind, kind of like hey, man,
lock the door, cause my mamacame in when I'm in the shower,
start whipping my ass with aswitch.
I'm wet, so that switch.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You sound like the intro of Django.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, man, so the you know what I'm saying, the
velocity of these whips tomultiply by at least two and a
half.
That switch then turned into agoddamn mega fire flames and
shit.
My mama hair fucking spiked upback, yeah, shot.
Ahhhh, I'm soaking wet in thefucking shower and I never got

(24:29):
an explanation for that whooping.
I don't know what the fuck itwas for.
I didn't never got.
I never got too many whoopingscoming up, but that one, my she
probably remember this shit, butI do, goddamn it.
Okay, and you got 24 hours,respectfully, mama Cause I don't
wanna, you know, I don't wannawhooping either.
Christmas coming up, my, getyour shit together.
So while I say this, man, asI'm thinking about it, I'm gonna

(24:51):
wrap it up first on the R&D,then I'm gonna go into the
whooping.
Yeah, family is a motherfucker.
First, off.
That's the defending your family.
So in my R&D with that, I got awhooping as a kid and I got a
lot of whoopings, bro, I'm likeover them, but it was a lot of

(25:13):
them.
I'm like, no, I don't deservethis.
And a few of them I'm like it'sfair.
It's fair, like it's this one'sfair.
But as a kid I would be the onewho generally would get the ass
whooping.
For, like the team, it'd belike, hey, man, he's strong
enough for all of us.

(25:34):
That's kind of how it was.
It was like, oh, this is gonnamake a man out of you, me
beating your ass cause I'm madat my boss.
Oh man, yeah, that's, that's so.
That ain't helping.
You know what I'm saying.
But one of those, um me, I'mnot like.
I've gotten ass whoopings as akid that I'm like, oh, this

(25:56):
ain't deserve this, I ain'tearned this.
I also gotten whoopings andchest ties on some things that I
did and I also just that grayarea then knew I had one coming,
yeah, and it was just like,probably so motherfucking,
pissed, can't even do nothing,put that bitch in reserve.
It's just like, hey, I'm a hurt, this motherfucker.

(26:18):
Yeah, she put that ass movingin the freezer, I don't know, so
we're going to throw this assmoving out later.
So thank you, mommy.
My mama, kimberly Johnson, sonof an educator Miss Kim they
call her and she come from anera where dating women didn't

(26:38):
use their real name.
Ok, she come from an era wherewomen called themselves
something that was edible.
Like hey, what's your name?
Baby Beaches.
What's your name?
Baby Candy?
Right, right.
What's your name?

(26:59):
Baby Sweets?
Ok, all right, like what's yourname, baby?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Cinnamon Licorice?
Like what's your name, baby?
They call me Juicy Rye rye.
Like what's your name, baby?
Oh.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Taffy Rye.
Ok, all right, her real nameTammy.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
What a grape sack, what a fruit, what a vegetable.
Like ain't nothing healthy, allright, nothing healthy, you're
going to rot my teeth out.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh yeah, they call me Cobbler.
Like what Did your mama callname you that?
Like I want to chick name KaleSalads and shit, like I'm
fucking.
Can I get a V English or?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
a name V Dan.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
V name something healthy.
You know what I'm saying.
She comes from Vitamin.
They call me minerals, vitaminC Supplements.
They call me 9.5 pH, littleprotein.
I'm in shape because I'm thicklike one.
Yeah, yeah, all that.
Pick some healthy name.

(27:59):
Pick some healthy shit.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I like the sweets too .
The sweets are nice, but yougot to be like you got to be
like apple cinnamon.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ok, see, now we throwing the fruits in there.
Yeah, see, you got applecinnamon.
You like, oh, I could fuck withthat.
You could fuck with the applecinnamon, you could fuck with
that.
Now, you like, now we in thegame.
Yeah, yeah, apple a day.
Keep a side, bitch away.
Pfft, your medicals for yourdoctor.

(28:28):
All right, I think.
Ok, all right.
So shout out to my mama, who Ilove and respect.
She most definitely comes fromthat era.
Toughest woman, strongest womanI've ever come across next to
my wife and my grandma, mygrandma.
Tough as fuck too, man, that'swhere my mama cut it from.
I love you, grandma.
Shout out to grandma dudes too.

(28:49):
I got a picture of her on myphone, my grandma.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, what you got a picture of my grandma, no.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Let me explain.
No, we was at the repass a fewmonths back last spring and she
was looking real fly.
She had the blue hat on, withthe suit and everything you know
, I remember.
And she like take a picture ofme.
I'm like, all right, take anice picture, a real nice
picture.
And then I go, all right, I'mgoing to send this to Ken so he

(29:18):
can send it to you.
She's like no, I want you tosend it to me.
I'm like OK, I'm all right, Igot you.
Wish you a, wish you never.
What's your phone number?
Put it in.
Send it to her.
Nice picture, I'm going to sendit to her.
AB wearing a grandma's grandmaon to knocking the off.
Man, she'll get you hey youknow what yeah?
I'm under arrest in the pickupfor older women.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's how you get a little nigga number.
Put it in your phone.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
You think that's it.
Next thing you know I'm gettingI'm saving it in my art copy.
Yeah, Next thing you know, Iget a photo of some legs and
shit with some tear holes on ityeah.
I'm sorry, baby, I meant to sendthat to my doctor.
I got some swelling.
You know I got that mobileclinic I need.

(30:05):
Do you deliver the doctor?
I need somebody to come and rubsome my creams down.
My cash is all on my reach downthere, like I used to got to
put my powder between my toes.
It's like you're sitting thereI be trying to shake it down now
.
I be missing the toes and shit.
Hey, I heard and I believe, andI believe the older that women

(30:33):
get, the more their libidostarts to kind of kick in.
Yeah, we hit our prime atdifferent times For sure.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, that's like women kind of got to like they
got that.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
They first know what they're coochie is.
Yeah, getting to know it likeand they're working it out how
to drink.
I forgot who's with the head.
Oh yeah, now you to get rummagethrough back in the day Like
rummage through.
That's like something raccoonsdo.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm going to do shit.
Well, you know, older ladies ismy kick, so that's they lean
yeah.
All you to get rummage throughback in the day.
You ain't doing that.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Rummage up in that ad Little rummage through, I'm
going to pull it when they wasyounger.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
They just working out that fresh body Numbs and that
new body they just got out ofthat fresh.
Then it's like you get yourheart broke with a meaning, like
your body broken down.
You know what I'm saying, butit comes with some guarding and
now like from 28 to 35.
That's the, that's the wallstage.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah, so at that 36, 38.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Really 42, is that one that?
Yeah, 42, 40.
I'm speaking from experience.
So 42 act that mark 42.
It's like that thing turnedback into 19 again.
I've heard this, what I heardwomen hit their sexual prime.

(32:02):
You know, between 35 and 45,which is the sexual prime of a
man of you by now should have agood set of twos in your two
bucks of what you should bedoing.
And nobody, not, not not, not,not, not for me, and not
necessarily a sexual prime, butour prime period, our prime make

(32:23):
a certain consistent money Got,got the crib the keys.
Getting older, we kind of free,you know.
So I'm a little more smoothly.
No smokers, dragon shit.
I'm kind of that dude now.
And you can tell how successfula man is by how well he takes
care of his lawn.
Oh, I must not be shit.

(32:44):
I can't stand my fucking grandyou in the you.
So I say this I saw your fakeflowers when I was.
It wasn't my idea.
It's your mother, it's yourmother, yeah, so I say that
because I didn't like you.
Duke, he can.
I'm not in bitches.
There were people who were inthe neighborhood wondering why
these bitches still alive infucking November and shit, what

(33:06):
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Burst ain't laying on them.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I need to pull these up and the bees come through.
Be discipline as fuck Likenigga.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I'm staying the fuck out this, so no I say it matters
, because, one, you had a placethat you even have a lawn, yeah,
so that's one.
Yes, and it's yourresponsibility it is.
So that's two.
And then, as I've learnedmyself, it becomes very
competitive with who going tomake the neighborhood look

(33:35):
better.
Yeah, like I'm not going to letthis black guy just out do me
or just neighbor just to bethere.
My neighbor, my neighbor, blackhe doing this thing.
But you know he won't tell me,mike, I know you listen to this
shit too.
He won't tell me exactly whathe puts on his lawn.

(33:55):
I'm going to try to get themthis spring.
I'm saying, man, what do youuse?
Now we'll say the shit that yougave me hook up to the water
holes.
But that shit work.
I'm gonna tell you how.
I know it, fucking work.
I got a hundred foot water holesand that shit it wouldn't reach
.
I'm starting.
It wouldn't reach.
It wouldn't reach the, the fartree lawn in the front.

(34:19):
I could.
I'm trying to put that bitch onjet Spray, that shit out there.
It couldn't reach the farcorner of that tree lawn out
front.
So it ain't get no love.
That one ain't get no fuckinglove.
The weeds didn't grow back anyfucking way.
But that corner shape of whereI just couldn't spray out to I

(34:42):
could push them in the cup.
I'm like, shit, that shit outthere.
I don't fucking know you don'twater and can some shit, but
being that, I saw weeds growinggetting taller.
Fuck out there, the dandy linewhen they be looking all weird
and shit.
I saw them growing.
I'm like, oh shit, this shitwork.
Those motherfuckers it'ssupposed to be everywhere around
here but they not, cuz I putthe shit down.

(35:03):
So I stand by that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I'm a long guy, so I'm not say as a as a certain
level of success.
Please hear me out.
And, ladies, this is a, this isa.
These are little, small factsthat you look at in detail.
Don't look at his shoes,because sometimes they can be
his friends.
Don't look at his clothes.
She in, she have to pay.

(35:31):
You can get them now and pay onthem.
Yeah, come, snatch them pansoff your fucking ass, because
you ain't, you ain't make a noteon your shit.
You got a pants note.
Okay, don't, don't, don't,don't don't don't have to pay
don't choose.
Granted, I bought like six pairsshoes at once, so you got damn

(35:53):
right.
I used to have to feel like amotherfucker.
It was new, for sure.
I got proof and I'm not.
I'm getting all these bitches$100 in two weeks, bet For sure.
So this is not to discredit orin the negative, but remember
you yeah, you just said youbought six pair shoes at one

(36:14):
time.
Yeah, oh, one time.
And you, they didn't count forwhat you have prior.
Your shoes that you use to cutthe lawn, yeah, the shoes you
dunk on the kids would be outthere running the shit.
You, one of them, dads anduncles, I'm out there with you.
I'll be looking like I thinkwe're running around and

(36:37):
sweating and shirt what the kids?
But this is that mess.
So you try not to stunt but,brother, you stun you.
How many people buying six pairshoes and getting approved for
she and my wife used after-pay.
She ain't clearing up a lot ofall of that shit and she started

(36:57):
using that.
I know you watching, I know youhere and I'm on your ass, man,
when I was like, what your money?
Because I don't ask her aboutmoney.
Yeah, I don't ask about money.
Her money is her money.
My money is my money, but seeif I can pull up on you and I

(37:21):
only asked about money.
it was only that day I was aboutmoney, but it was just one of
them.
Like I'm bored, I'll ask you Hi, so a board and surface
question, where your money going?
Because, because I know what myname we open yet.
But I was telling her like juston some joking shit.

(37:44):
But I'm telling her like joking,like no, we need to make a
certain game with the ends.
Put a cup of certain dollarsinto this account, pay down on
this, boom, boom, boom.
And I want to give a side noteit's certain things that I don't
have to worry about or pay forthat she does.
So it's like I can seeLegitimately on what tangible
things where the money going,because If you watch there or

(38:08):
follow us on social media, thenI'll post more pictures.
Please, mom was definitely so.
Freedom speakers, you can followme on Instagram at permission.
The number two underscoresspeak freely, podcast and follow
my Ben Boston as BN B O S Shand on IG as well for
inspirational, motivationalpictures, information and family
business entrepreneurship.

(38:29):
Follow me there.
So if you go on my social mediaand you look at Any pictures
that you see of our home and isdecor, is decoration, is lawn
stuff that was not me If you seesome really nice rocks out
there, if you see some reallygood, no, uh striped in that

(38:51):
grass.
If you see the bushes trimmedand heamed up real good and not.
If you see some good, nicefucking gutters up there, if you
see a really good, beautifulfucking window not one, not two,
but three beautiful fuckingwindows out there.
I did that.
I didn't.
I'll not a put windows in wherewe ain't, they ain't, but I

(39:14):
mean.
That's why I know my stuff wentfor sure.
But if you see any decor outthere of Christmas lights,
witches, Santa Claus lanternsand shit, any of that shit.
Rudolph and them niggas, IDidn't do it, that wasn't.
That's not my thing, that'shers and she don't go to cheap
places to get this shit.

(39:35):
She first.
You're going to be J's, she'sgonna hobby lobby.
I love you.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
She's going.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I love BJ's as well, in all forms, and factors.
Um, but she goes there out time.
She ain't been to PJ's with mein a while, so we got a visit
there soon.
Round trip to.
She's the one who does that, andif you ever been inside of our
home, or if you follow her onsocial media at Moka Chocolata,

(40:03):
they at our IG, or if you followher on TikTok, she does these
beautiful reels of where shegoes, which is first off, as I'm
remembering.
Target is number one.
Shout out to target, she goesto target.
I love target Only because I goto target with her now and I
just like the.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
You just hear the store target I had getting shit
you don't even fucking need.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Like it was a, it was a basket in that motherfucker
where I'm like that bad, thatlittle basket look nice with
like, just like some yarn ballsin.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
My little sock basket .

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm gonna just put socks in this month.
So I'll agree with you, bro,and my woman, my wife is into
the decor, she's into fashion,she's into decorating.
Anything that's designed in ourhouse that looks nice was not
by me.
She do a damn good job.
She does a fucking beautifuljob.
I like them lampshots.
I got man With the rope, whichwas the rope was.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah so this is how the slave they nice, they look a
little slavish.
But I'm okay, I'm gonna run outthis is how the uniqueness
works with us people.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Okay, she picked those beautiful lamps, but I put
them up.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
you had, you had to do that, I had to Put Lights oh.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I'm getting some ass tonight.
Should be any goddamn it shouldbe y'all just as hard as I work
.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I asked you, just as it should be, man.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's it should be.
I want to um.
Thanks for sharing that, man.
I think I think a lot, of, alot of guys can relate, man.
Um, I know, I can Know I can't.
I want to share.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
What do?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
you think people?
Oh yeah what do?
y'all think.
What do you think, people?
I just Just but go ahead, man,just believe in the comments.
If you, if you was the man,we're gonna go there first.
Yeah, keep your space.
If you putting in work and workis divine, defined as what you
are asking for me to do yeah, inthe simplest way, vague, just
like I'm kind of following theworld or I'm doing 95 or 90, 95%

(42:16):
.
We understand that I'm takingcare of stuff.
You know, I'm fixing andbuilding, and then we'll even do
the inverse of it of the woman,because normally we don't,
because it's men here.
You can't speak for y'all, Ican't, I can't.
But the inverse that I'm gonnasay is and we got a woman here,

(42:38):
so hey, but the inverse of it'son the basic of amen, I took
care of the house while you wasgone, I cleaned up, I did the
laundry.
Uh, boom, boom, boom, whateverit is that maintain the home, I
got the kids right.
Do she be feeling like shedeserves some some pipe game for
?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
a, that's a great question.
Like that's, that's why I waslike do she feel like, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
More than just like give me the credit card.
We kind of know that.
Yeah, we know that I'm like,but like she like I didn't.
I'll be Nick, I'll be take careof you.
I cooked and then I cleaned up.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I got the kids right, I got my head done for y'all.
They see my nails.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
What do y'all want after?
After y'all don't take care ofy'all business, because we know
we won after we done, took careof long we done, you know,
helped you a little bit with thekids, took a little something
off you, you know.
However, we took care of whatwe supposed to take care of.
We know we.
What do y'all want afterknocking out the kids baths,
after, you know, making sure theleft I was heated up.

(43:42):
No, I'm fucking with you, butwhat are y'all like what?
What are you?
What are you?
I want to say seek, becausewe're not doing things to get
reward.
We're doing.
It could be supposed to.
However, it's nice to get somereward.
Ladies, what, what, what?
What reward do you want?
And I may have an idea what itmay be, but I want to hear first
, because I don't leave it inthe comments.

(44:03):
I don't want to be calledmassaging, this For sure.
Yeah, you don't want to be,although my massages are the
bomb I heard I'm really good,yeah.
So freedom speakers, please letus know.
Let us know, especially fromthe females.
Man, it's kind of blatantly outthere as, as, as my broho
stated, man is blatantly outthere.
Most men working, putting in thework, the labor, the hard stuff

(44:25):
to be able to lay it withsomething soft, to be able to
get that feel of a woman man,we've been out here fighting the
day.
We just trying to get rubbed onand lay up with you.
You know we trying to get someand out and we're gonna classify
it as this.
We trying to, uh, celebratewith you.
Oh, I'm trying to celebratewith you because we did a good

(44:47):
day.
Five words, you did look.
Look at what I did about cutthe grass.
Ain't nothing to cut off inhere.
We handle shit together.
Remember, this is a gatherthing.
We had touched on this, on thesecond and a little bit like
that 50, 50 Pay all the bills,stuff.
I would love to talk about that, but we're gonna put a pin in
that for just a second.
Well, I was gonna say, most ofthe time when you celebrate,

(45:10):
what do we need?
We need cakes.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
We need cakes.
I like that.
We need cakes, all right.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Aw shit.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Like that, because if you're not catering, let me
cater to you.
But if you're not, I just feellike.
You know yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I just, and you, you as a woman would know For sure.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm with that If he denied you of say yeah, he don't
want to give it away tonight.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Like I'm tired, man, man, my leg is hurting.
Man, yeah, yeah, you saw medoing the lawn, you saw me fall.
Yo, speaking of, uh, speakingof falling, I want to share.
I have a confession.
Uh-oh, it's a couple weeks ago,man, I um, I hurt myself, um, I

(46:40):
fucking fell down the stairs,man, and it hurt my home.
Yeah, oh, cool, great, shut thefuck up.
What the fuck stairs are that?
Anyway, fuck, fell down thestairs, man, god damn it.
I was on the way to, uh, to uh,miss Evelyn's home going

(47:01):
service and you know, of course,I put on dress socks and the
fucking socks, man, why the fuckthey don't make the socks to
groove the work, the like.
I fucking slipped.
That carpet got smoothed in.
The motherfucker I fuckingslipped.
The man fell right on mygoddamn ass.

(47:21):
Man, I'll bathe my daughter,but first of all my wife.
Like boom, you okay.
I couldn't even say shit forlike 12 seconds.
My daughter was asleep, thestairs are right by her room and
my baby come out of the room.
She's like what?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
what's going on, daddy?
You okay.
You fell down.
You hurt your head.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
My naw baby.
I didn't hurt my head, but I'mfine, yo.
She still had the sleepy faceon her eyes.
Y'all, puppy, just hey what'sgoing on nigga, my ass went boom
and it was the first fuckingstep up top, but my ass landed
on like the ninth step, likeright in the middle.
So like the slip to fall ratio.

(48:04):
Didn't nigga math glitched.
If I slip on the first step, myass should be landing on the
third step.
My ass landed on like the ninthstep.
I'm in the middle.
Pictures was crooked.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I had to banish her so.
I tried to catch herself.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I hurt myself like a motherfucker.
Back was hurting back, stillhurting man.
That's why I put these pillowsand shit.
You got some nice shit I'musing y'all, even though I did.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
That's behind the scenes, that's good.
Go ahead, bro.
You lumber support.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I'm just fucking man, I hurt my god damn cell and you
know I think I told the storyalready.
I bust my fucking head abouttwo months ago.
So after this happened and mywife, like you, want to go to
the doctor, my hell nah Alreadyowe these niggas like $1,200
from the last incident.
And then on top of that, if Igo, they're gonna start asking
questions Are you safe at home?

(49:02):
Hey, I don't think you're safeat home.
Hey, I don't think so either.
I think it's booby traps beingset up around the crib.
You've been getting hurt a lotlately.
Says Y'all ain't got them lifeinsurance policy.
Man.
I smack my face on the fucking,uh, the wood I put up three
incidents right there, listenthe wood I put up around the
pantry.

(49:22):
Nigga, reach down and get agoddamn walmart bag Full, full,
full diaper, because you know Idon't.
Niggas ain't got diaper jeans,no more.
Fuck that no for what.
Reach down and get a goddamn bagand they gotta stand up.
Nigga, smack the side of mygoddamn face when it hardest,
fuck die.
Why fuck man Do me could cometo your aid.

(49:43):
Yeah, she come.
She come helping nigga man.
She like.
When she shouted out and Iain't say shit for a minute she
was starting to get up, but youknow she'd be hurting too.
So my baby beat her to thepunch.
She was so fucking concerned.
That's my nissy nissy poo.
Even when I hit my head she wasyour most concerned child.

(50:06):
She still asked me about myhead because it's like a little
ball spell right there.
They say the hair gonna growback soon like a little Fuck
monster.
They me off camera.
It looked like a great spot.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It just looked like no, I just blank.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
It looked like nigga got fucking rainwear.
Oh shit, this was 11.
They said.
You know, the hair grow backeventually.
Just the follicles gottarejuvenate and be born again, or
your ways of growing in realdeep right there.
And that's the thing.
Like that shit, when it do growout, it's gonna grow out like
baby head, it's gonna be adifferent.

(50:39):
I said, hey, man, you, you awarrior man, you a warrior and
then when I get like I get myhair cut.
So, uh, you know they be like Iknow Barbara nicked you.
It's like I'm Nick grown niggas, that shit don't happen.
So, fuck, I bust my fuckinghead.
That's what happened.
I survived.
That's what fucking I had.
So pray for me freedom speakers.

(51:00):
All right, I've been fallingand smacking phase and all kind
of shit.
You know I'm okay.
I think I just gotta be morecareful.
I'm, I'm a um and this is all Ido.
Respect the sis man, I think.
Sis said you go up, you got.
Uh, sis, I think you setting upmy she laid them dress socks
out for me and dress, socks have.

(51:22):
Dress socks is as bored as mostgirls tires on their car.
No traction, niggas, none.
You can't get them moving,picking up speed, you can't stop
, for shit.
I ain't wearing them socks nomore.
And when you hit them, steps,bro.
So I fell down some steps, notrecently, but often.
I have felt a few flights ofsteps.

(51:42):
You hit the steps.
It's not a just because, likeyou, fall flat.
Yeah, because we kind of withour with our feet, we kind of
slide off the edge of the stepand kind of Blum, blum, blum,
blum, blum dance, you know thatreal, real.
If you play it, nigga my shitain't work.
Grabbing for shit, trying notto, yeah, my shit ain't work.

(52:02):
And then you know, like thecarpet real smooth because and
y'all house biggest fuck broy'all got, like I wouldn't say,
17 steps, it's all right.
I was right in the middle,nigga Nice step.
That's what my ass landed atthat bitch man.
Look Just just.
I need help.
I'm gonna fuck around.
We'll get you some, some hotshoes.
I'm gonna have and I usually usemy slides in the house.

(52:24):
All right, freedom speakers, wego.
We're gonna start a gofum me.
Loads of uh some hot shoes orgrip some Gucci slide some gold
toe.
Yeah good, get him some Guccislides for show 11 and a half.
Well, they don't make slides onhalf size.
Give me a 12.
Meet uh meek, assist Um Uh.
Get uh.

(52:45):
That's a Christmas gift for him, depending on might want it
earlier.
Just give him a gift, don'twait for Christmas, all right.
So I'm gonna say this Give me afucking walking stick that
might Not a cane is one of them,old like Stick from man just
select and smooth some.
but would you be you man, peoplewho walk around with them, I

(53:05):
can them Chinese movies or Asianmovies.
I'll say Chinese, japanese, butthey all are there because a
lot of them be racial movies,attention, stuff like that, yeah
, but the guy who got the Staff,yeah, and the guy who got, like
either the long beard, that'sthat more than long ponytail
they masters.
Yeah.
So you gonna be wise as fuckwith your staff, you sure cuz I

(53:28):
saw on that drug Marv like $30.
It's just how much it costs.
This nigga just no shit he got.
He got that stick and thingschange for him.
He starts speaking yeah, yeah,but blessings coming through and
shit, let's take our power.
Shout out to the jug markwalking stick hey talking about

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for my wedding, I have bought acane because of our we were
African guard.
Yeah, I have bought a cane fromOld Tom pottery.
Oh yeah, that's the stuff oldTom pottery shot out to do and I
was walking with it and I justfelt More balance.
I just felt bad I need it?

(54:11):
I don't think, but I just feltlike holding it was like Anybody
move me for yeah, I know stuff.
It really felt like I Feltconnected, like I'm always
touching the earth.
Like you said man, but you sayone getting their eyes from the
tree and shit.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I got a dead tree.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I'm still in there.
Yeah, so it's like a nigga youold, I'm old, but I'm still.
I'll leave your business.
Good, maybe make trees in thebrown, for why?
So?
I say this, man, when it comesto just getting older and
gaining knowledge, man, at this,at this Valuable age in our 30s
, is these valuable 30s will sayDo you feel like you have

(54:55):
gained some knowledge and becomewise?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
that you can give game now.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, fuck, kidding me man.
Fuck, yes, mmm, absolutely Fuck.
Yes, man, my little brother.
He'd be going throughSituations with his, with his
lady and shit.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I'm a baby mama drama .

Speaker 1 (55:12):
He just got him a baby.
Yeah, baby man.
But you know we're goingthrough little little tic-tac.
You know, type of shit, man.
It's kind of like a man.
This is how you handle that.
Say this.
You know I'm saying she got tobring it up this.
Don't get so defensive.
Be a man about the shit.
You know what I mean.
Let her know.
You know I want to put thatshit out there.
But definitely definitely beCoaching, bro.

(55:34):
You know, I mean coach themjust on the relationship shit,
and they, you know they got aspot together.
Now you know they moved in yetbut they got it.
So I like to talk about that.
Yeah, that's gonna shagging up.
Shagging up, I would let's,let's make sure we note that.
Producer, please note thatwe're gonna call it a segment
car Shagging up, and y'all knowwhat shagging up is.

(56:00):
If you don't go ask yourgrandma, go act.
Yep, it's a Planned.
House is another another term.
The next generation generationhad, and then I don't know what
they call it now, if they movingin together, you know what, I
know what us, we was.
It was calling it, we wasplaying house plan.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I know, behind a cow and it ain't free.
Wherever he was saying likeAin't got no milk in them.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So why buy a cow when you can get the milk free?
There you go.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I don't know where you get milk for Freddy's.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Go ahead.
Well, leave it to your dough.
There is one place.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
So in this segment of shagging up, as it's coming to
me now, is pros and cons, peopleto shagging up, living with
each other, and I just give mymy experience.
I don't.
That's the only story I cantell, that's the only one I know
the best.
All right, so for me, young, Iwant some shagging up.

(56:58):
I've learned a lot of stillabout myself being outside of my
mother's home or my parentshome, kind of equivalent to if
you go to college and you in thedorm room with somebody that
you don't know.
Yeah, okay, so shagging up alittle bit, we just gonna.
I'm gonna keep it vague, butI'm gonna give a lot of examples
to make a comparative.
All right, so I've learned howto manage bills, cook, clean,

(57:25):
wash like, exercise, thesedomestic things that I was
taught at home already In thesame like a different domestic
capacity, but the same skill.
Okay, as you would be incollege.
You most people don't know howto cook is why they top rum in
that shit.
I'm a mother, you know I'msaying they don't got the
resources or whatever it is.

(57:46):
They're still on the tightbudget when you moving out on
your own, still on the tightbudget, you get to learn a lot
about the people around you, thepeople you're trying to connect
with, and sometimes you learnto be like, okay, we passing
through this.
Is we just?
We learned enough.
We've taken on these courseswith each other, mastered what

(58:07):
we needed to master, and wegraduate on to our careers, now
what we really want to settleinto.
So for me, I Learned a ton.
I learned a ton in thoseshagging up days.
I Promote for you to still liveon your own in some capacity.

(58:30):
Yeah, even if it's with aroommate, if it's with a
potential spouse, even if it'son your own.
But I know, financiallysometime it is, it is difficult.
So shout out.
That's normally the nucleus ofwhy people shag up because it's
affordable.
You know I'm saying it'saffordable, but I learned so
much shacking up or playinghouse about how to steal,

(58:55):
prepare myself for when I didstep into the husband role, the
man role, that I know how tolead and handle these things
because I did get out here earlyand do it.
I did have that exercise of, oh, I can handle this, I can do
this, or this is what this feellike.
Okay, oh, damn, I can see whatmy mom and it was it cut these
lights to fuck off.
Put on some thick pajamas andcut the heat down.

(59:18):
It's that he would us.
They kick out my fucking ass.
Oh, in the, in this segment ofshacking up man, I like to give
this information why are you outhere and you look into Survive?
Because you gonna start off inthat phase.

(59:39):
People, everyone starts, almostpeople.
I don't want to group everyoneinto a bunch and I get attacked
later.
Oh, my god, okay, it's the,it's the nigga, that's more like
everybody.
They got to speak up always.
So.
So, when you do step into thoseroles, you're gonna start.

(01:00:03):
Most of us are gonna start offin a position where you are
surviving.
This is this hunting phase youhave.
You are seeking, you are goingout into the world Looking for
things.
You're exploring, yourdiscovering, you're gonna have
that.
That's, that is a necessarypart of your 20s.
Okay, man, this is myexperience.

(01:00:25):
You're gonna need these things.
You're gonna need to exerciseyourself.
You're gonna need to, as onepoint time they used to say so.
Your royal oats Not as an,always just mean you are here
fucking, but it does meanexercise.
You skill there, exercise,celebrating.
We'll say that.
Remember that.
So celebrate, exercise,celebrating as you taper into

(01:00:51):
your 30s and you mature.
You kind of get tired over thelast three, seven, maybe nine
years doing repetitive thingsand really not getting a taste
of certain things, but maybe Notknowing how to handle it,
fumbling it, whatever the casemay be.
But you get you kind of findyourself at a place where you

(01:01:13):
are done Exploring externallyout into the world, and then you
find yourself in your 30sPrimarily.
That's when it hit, sometimes alittle earlier for others, but
I know for me it really hit inmy early 30s that now I'm
starting to Search and exploreand discover Internally, and

(01:01:38):
internal is Way more vast Thanexternal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Okay, he's way more vast, way more deep, way more
you can harbor so much inside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Externally, you got a cap.
Room ain't big enough, houseain't big enough, gotta get a
storage place for your shit.
But you just put that shit youhold known to, but it's still
got a cap.
Internally, virginia, alien,guillian, gigabyte, terabyte,
the hard drive you can harbor sofucking much.

(01:02:18):
But you start to exploreyourself.
You start to find what you feelthat you need.
You start to find what fuckwith, what pumps you with, what
drives you where we're most ofus in our 30s, now that you get
to see and keep in mind we'remarried men, so we're.
I'm living by curious throughmost people that are around me
who are Expressive to me aboutwhat's out there, what they're

(01:02:41):
doing.
And hey, man, I want you inyour wife to stay together
because it look good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It is good you look happy being there for that woman
.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I'm kids handling what you do.
I couldn't do it.
I was smoking crack with yourdaddy back in the day.
I ain't over.
You knew that, but I'm justfeel comfortable telling you
nigga Testimony?
yeah, but one of those of like alay a burn down, yeah, a burn
down at the same time, whilebigging you up about I couldn't

(01:03:12):
do it, you stronger than me.
I turn the drugs.
It was easier route and Icommend you, my nigga, cuz it
couldn't be me.
I love you though, and normallythat be my granddad, but nigga,
stay for that woman, stay fromkid, stay for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
What you would say there.
I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
What I'm proud of you , hey man.
They made me believe a man inme to be a father, a man in me
to be a chief, hey man.
They meant to do this, but youdoing them all and you're
running laps around the boy.
Yeah, I love you, I'm gonna callyou back, but these I Needed.
I would need that, yeah.
So I would say this of to in mymy segment, in my little rant

(01:03:57):
on Shacken up In your 30s isreally when that light kickoff
and you mature and most peoplestart following on one accord.
But for men we have it's a.
It's a mental value and a it'sa mental value we have to have

(01:04:22):
more than just the Materials,because we get to see a lot of
times those come and go, yeah,those come and go, but my
knowledge that I've gained tonot let this continuously happen
comes.
My problem-solving skills kickup, being able to critically
think you know I'm saying beingable to handle pressure, yeah,

(01:04:43):
these are to be able to Missioncomplete every time a task is is
had, regardless of how muchtime normally is taken, because,
remember, some of these thingsthat are freshly happening I
ain't never experienced.
Let me, let me, let me red, letthis register to me.

(01:05:04):
So I say that to you peoplewhen you are in this mature
phase in your 30s and you arelooking internally, take your
time, do not rush because youseem to be on one accord or
everybody itching to getsomebody, because 40 is kicking

(01:05:27):
close and normally if you, it'ssaying if you not, what you're
gonna be by either the 30 or 40,that's what you're gonna
possibly be for the rest of yourlife.
Yeah, don't push yourself intosomething or with somebody just
to have somebody.
I really tell people Slow down,even for our kids, like man,

(01:05:47):
slow down, don't get to know theperson for real, like get to
know the person for real.
All right, so as the end of myrant, I'm shacking up, but I
will segue into this For Forrelationships, for marriages,

(01:06:09):
remember all of these skills aretransferable.
When we talked to our son atthat place now where he dating
girls or not dating because youknow we're near dating, dating
is like Shit, orchestratedactual court.
He just likes somebody for fourdays.
That's kind of how that shit,but Giving him game to

(01:06:33):
understand things and to learnhow to bounce back through
things.
And I give, I want to be ableto give him an example, as I
talked to her and talk to himjust about our Relationship, of
getting to see our kids see usresolve differences, to know in
the household.
That's how Issues should happen.
I mean, that's how thingsshould be happened.
Yeah, hey, if we do have Someissues of certain things that

(01:06:56):
are Kid-friendly because I'm afirm fucking believer of staying
a fucking child place, this isnot for you as a goddamn child,
this grown-up shit, I don't kickit.
A party with kids, this ain'tfor you.
You will get there eventually,we'll even slow down.
Don't be Bobby Valentino, goddammit, I ain't trying to get to
know you like that, but I saythat to him.

(01:07:20):
But you know, I say that to himto exercise Certain things in
relationship that we may nothave seen growing up in our
household.
We may have heard or seen ourparents bigger fight, have
issues with their spouse, but wemay have never seen them
actually resolve it in front ofeach other, say I'm sorry, hug,
kiss it out.
Yeah, we we never seen it.

(01:07:41):
We may have seen Turned intosubstances, turn it to something
else or somebody else.
I remember seeing somethingrecently in the last couple of
weeks that said it can be goodto argue in front of your
children as long as they're theysee the end result.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
You know I'm saying yeah, yeah, I can't, which I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I don't know where I stand with that.
It's kind of like Bitch youwill.
I'm seeing all laughing, youknow, baby.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I apologize.
You know what I mean.
Like, I do think seeing that isimportant for seeing the, the
top side of it, the arguing.
I'm gonna let that stand.
Somebody else let me know so Iget my stand on that man.

(01:08:23):
I actually like that phrase.
I still feel like even as anadult where we are mature, like
grown-ups, I'm classy as fuck.
So I'll say that even in myarguments I'm very tactical.
I don't gotta yell.
I don't gotta yell, but I don'tcome to that space to argue.

(01:08:43):
I don't even come into thatspace now to Be bitching and
hoeing and all that.
I use that shit for show.
I do that shit for.
You know, just one of thoselike I I don't even like to
identify will be being like ahood person or neighbor.
I came from the inner city,hood nigga, but it's like that
is me.
So my vernacular sometimes slipout is like Filler.

(01:09:09):
But I digress on that.
But I do agree with the thechildren get a chance to see the
parents communicate with eachother and get this ex see how
you, your mannerisms are,because when we have differences
now I'm not at a place where weare arguing it doesn't get

(01:09:32):
there, and if it does, it's likewe both didn't lost control.
We too deep into marriage, wetoo deep in our relationship to
the conversation.
Gotta go to arguing, yeah, it'slike, no, no, and I and I and I
know I lead, bro, I lead, Ilead heavily and I step into it
rightfully.
And, baby, you know I'm aleader, you a leader, but I'm

(01:09:54):
leading you first, and that's ashout out to come, and that's a
common line.
That's not me, but I do agreewith that of like we a team, but
I'm in charge though, like it'smy, I'm Captain For us though,
but it's us, it is us, it is us,it is us, it is us.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
It is us it is us and .
I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
And I have to approach it that way because
sometimes we, when you do haveto even address somebody that
you love with an uncomfortable,it can make things uncomfortable
, but it had you gotta have nomore comfortable conversations
to be able to have a comfortablerelationship.
Yeah, like they are.
Yeah, I think that a thousandpercent.

(01:10:40):
So our necessary Mm-hmm.
So I'm 100% believing um, not100%, but I believe in having
the children around if you arehaving some differences, and
it's especially if it's a minute, if it's like hey they need to
do this or do that, or hey, Ineed you to do this.
You didn't handle that.
No, I'm sorry, you know.
Just you know some, some, somemediocre, but not Some grown up,

(01:11:02):
no, they time and play.
They ain't there for that, butjust the parents are around when
the kids are having some things, especially when the kids are
involved Heavily, when they'reinvolved.
Hey, did you tell your dad Isaid this and you did that and
it causes for y'all to have Some.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Hey, did you, hey, baby I thought we discussed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
They can't have you know this for this or we went
post to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Well, he said, you said baby, maybe I'm gonna check
you up.
You know, I said not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I'm thinking about it .
I know exactly what you mean inone of those like hey, they
need to be involved and heldaccountable and Get to see the
Resolve the residents.
You know the situation beresolved, so I do.
I do feel like it has some prosand it can have some cons, but
I do feel like it's a differenttake on the norm of Get the fuck
out of here.

(01:11:52):
You can't see this and andnormally I still believe in that
on heavy shit, I still believeit out on heavy shit, but on the
kid appropriate things, oh yeah, let's, let's get this resolved
, let's.
Do you learn to see apologiesand my dad apologizes to my mom?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
my mom apologize to my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
That's important to say.
But like, which is the biggesttake of it all?
You know I'm saying like we canget to.
We can have a conversation anddiscussion and get to a place
where we're not arguing andyelling that we need to
apologize for other shit, beingon with the top of what was
doing.
You know saying we're arguingbecause something happened, but
we're now we're we're mad justfrom us arguing what we said

(01:12:31):
during our arguments and now wegot that out the way.
This, what happened, this, howyou made me feel right, which
happens to me and a lot.
You know what I mean.
We'll go to bring up asituation that we're Comfortable
with or something that we needto address, and then you know a
lot of times the way it comesoff or the way it's said.

(01:12:52):
That then becomes the top ofthe conversation and not
actually what the fuck we wantedto discuss in the first place.
You know that's a skill, yeah,that's a skill to Avoid or to
deflect, to micro, manage theconversation of.

(01:13:15):
I'm trying to express, I'mtrying to be expressive and I
like the way you talking to me.
I don't like your tone ortaking one word out of the
entire sentence.
Oh, so now I'm not.
You don't feel.
This is the.
So I don't care, you saying Idon't care, you know what yeah.

(01:13:37):
Yeah, like your actions aresaying you don't care or Then it
turns into Use, a whole, sothen it turns into a whole
Different avenue of something asa deflection and derailment of
what the initial, what yourinitial thing is, and it's like

(01:13:58):
you made it about yourself, yeah, many about you, and it's not
necessary because he probablywant to feel what was coming up
and when we get done Okay, wegot past arguing part, I love
you.
Sorry, hold up, I didn't getthe fucking say I really wanted
to say, and then it's a no,that's important, man, that's

(01:14:27):
definitely important how they,it's important to know how to
navigate.
You know those type ofinstances when they come about,
you know.
So it's something, man.
I forgot what I wanted to askyou.
But moving forward, man, hadyou heard about what's, what's

(01:14:48):
been going on up in Michiganfootball?
No, no, man, bring me up tospeed up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
So apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
There's been some, some signs stealing, some signal
stealing, and I know thatsounds.
What the fuck is the problem?
You know my big steel signs.
All the time I've been tryingto do that shit at home
Allegedly Michigan, michigancoaches, staff fucking Interns

(01:15:28):
have been future scouting Future, and that's the illegal part.
That's the rule break, right,there has been future scouting
future opponents To then get aleg up when they actually Play
them.
So a kin, so like film.
They been like watching film,not not watching film.

(01:15:48):
Watching film is totally fine,watching film is totally fine.
What they would do is hey, weplayed Penn State in a few weeks
go to their game and recordtheir signal caller and then

(01:16:09):
Bring it back and we were ableto study it and know what Means
when they caught.
So when we're playing them, weknow the fucking play you, you
on, you on you.
You hit a ask Matt, and butyeah, we know that, we know that
fucking play.
Now, that sort of thing canhappen live in the game.
However, you're not gonna.

(01:16:29):
You don't have time to bestudying somebody's signals five
was on the time while in thefucking game but you have an
opportunity to get prepared inthat way before the game.
That gives you quite the leg upon the competition.
Apparently, this has been goingon for the last last couple

(01:16:51):
seasons, including this season,and this is what.
Who did they have the who dothem?
Make sure I get this with thequestion right.
Yeah, what information or proofdid they have that Michigan was
doing this and who brought itto the attention?
Who's like the lead investment?

(01:17:12):
There have been Venmotransactions.
I make sure I say allegedlymore than I need to.
There have been Venmotransactions because the person
they had doing this makes aboutfifty five thousand dollars a
year.
You know how much it costs tosit on the fucking 40 yard line
at these, these college games.
Probably his salary, these haveyou know like it get up there.

(01:17:35):
Like I remember looking for anosebleed Ohio State Michigan
game For me, you and the boys,this is gonna be about two
thousand dollars.
I'm talking nosebleed, right,$500.
Nosebleed Saturday afterThanksgiving.
Rather it was Ann Arbor orColumbus, expensive as a bitch.

(01:17:59):
But they have been Venmotransactions.
Like, apparently there wasthere was a guy spying on Ohio
State and Georgia in last yearswas of the all-state sugar bowl.
There's a payment to horse payfor the tickets.
I'll give you this one, ohioState, penn State.

(01:18:22):
Just last, a couple weeks ago,there were two tickets purchased
under the name Connor stallionsis the name of the guy who's
apparently the sign stealer.
Nobody showed up because by theend the funk had already hit
the fan.
The funk had already hit thefan, you know.

(01:18:46):
Nobody showed up.
Nobody showed up.
There is allegedly video of thesign stealer at the central
Michigan game with some glassesand apparently a toupee.
Cuz he's bald, look just likethis motherfucker, and Central
Michigan cannot verify who thefuck that is on.

(01:19:07):
They stay With all this AI.
No, not at this real video.
However, they did go to AImatch his actual face With who
is on the.
Who was on the sideline andthey sent it through AI.
Ai gave it a 99 percent match.
Maybe, maybe, like that's himbecause he's doing the toupee

(01:19:30):
and, like some, some sunglass.
It's a nighttime game.
You know shades and nobody elsegot fucking shades.
You know saying these greatlights.
They'll be out.
Could you know that be our doesget involved and shit like this
NC double-a, but it's a hugerule break.
Man, michigan's in trouble andyou know, and allegedly they've
been cheating these last coupleyears which, ironically, last

(01:19:50):
couple years they've been goodand that's horrible to me, right
?
Mm-hmm, oh, jimmy, jimmy boywas he?
Because I don't want to saykicked out, I don't know what.
I don't remember that somethinghappened.
man, he was in, he was in NFL,but uh, whatever the Cape land
lands at that mission did landat that mission, great fucking

(01:20:11):
job, steel, great pay like theystill make coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
They make good money.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
You know, I'm saying just coming to.
You know the differentorganization.
But, um, we wish Jimmy the best.
I wish Not the team.
I'm not like a kill miss.
you know my thing, I don't wishJimmy the best, I do wish the
kids that that organization, atleast those who were involved.

(01:20:37):
I wish the kids who they put atrisk for elimination, for
forfeit wins, for Having to, youknow, sit out of certain ball
games.
I do wish, I do wish them thebest.
You know their quarterback, jj.
It's having a Great year thisyear and it's possible that it

(01:21:00):
may all be for not because ofSomething I don't believe.
Any player has knowledge ofthis.
Not one player on that team hasknowledge that there's been
some science stealing going on.
You look at the very first playFrom Ohio State, michigan, last
season.
I'm talking very firstoffensive play.
Before CJ Stroud could evengive the team the play to relate

(01:21:28):
, relay the signal.
Michigan's already calling adefense.
They're pointing to going likethis.
It's like how they matching itup.
They may they so it's somethinggoing on.
There's a picture of Colin kindof stallions who supposed to be
an intern.
Every time Mr Get on theoffense, he's right by the

(01:21:49):
offensive coordinator.
Every time there's on defensehe's about a defensive
coordinator with a laminatedsheet of Of signs that they made
these ain't coaching plays ofsign like there's a lot of proof
.
And you know the NCAA slash FBI.
They gonna come knock on yourdoor till they got proof anyway.
Yeah, yeah, they just lookingto see how much you gonna

(01:22:11):
cooperate.
And that's what's going on, man.
So it's not looking good.
I'm getting new information onthe daily, but it's it's.
It's something funky going on upthere in Michigan, man, and you
know coaches are upset about it.
Regardless of what they say inthe press, they upset about it.
There was a poll taken from 50coaches in the NCAA and Either

(01:22:36):
45 or 46 out of 50 those coachesrated this a five out of five
on the scale of seriousness.
You know like this is serious.
Yeah, your peers are saying,yeah, it's serious, you'll talk.
You'll talk to a Michigan fan,they've got it.
Nothing.
The leaders loopholes is.
You know, it's not illegal.
It happens all the time.
Yeah, happens all the time.
But future, scouting a team andhaving an opportunity to Study,

(01:23:00):
study, study their signs.
Yeah, that's a leg up on thecompetition.
You may have a few of theysigns down pat by halftime, but
y'all got the whole fuckingpretty much the playbook sitting
right in front of you.
Yeah, allegedly Ohio State gaveTCU coaches the heads up and

(01:23:22):
warned them warned TCU lastseason about Michigan stealing
signs.
You know what they did?
They changed their signalcaller.
They changed their signal cuzthe TCU see, ohio State called
us and said hey, be careful.
In their mind, your house,facing the playoff to TCU, could
have very much Went on theplayoff, ohio State for the

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championship.
So they had.
They made dummy signals.
Hmm, and guess what happened?
Got caught up.
What Michigan lost?
They beat them.
They fucking beat them.

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You know I'm probably thefurthest thing from a Michigan
fan.
I know we talk about them fromtime to time, man, but I, you
know, I think this shit isinteresting, man.
I want to see how this turnsout.
Ohio State had the four-fifthwins over over tattoos and
merchandise and shit back in2011, 2012, hmm, now you talking
about something cost us achampionship, we're sure, you
know, sure.
So what is gonna happen withwhat's gonna happen with this

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situation?
I just want to see, I just wantto see.
So, people, you have it there.
We gonna see what's gonnahappen at Michigan.
We hope you not the best,because it seems like this is
one of them.
Niggard, everybody got got toget it now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Oh, shit, hold, tight , hold, tight Hold tight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
What is the big ticket right here?
So last year Michigan Michiganapparently did not want to play
Tennessee in the playoffsbecause they go too fast, they
pace is too fast, they call it,plays quick, they get it out, so
they don't have time Allegedly,allegedly, allegedly to steal
their signals.
Guess what they did.
What Guess what Michiganallegedly did?

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They gave South Carolina theirsignals.
So South Carolina's involved inthis shit too.
South Carolina beat Tennesseeand knocked Tennessee out of the
playoff race.
Last year Hinden Hooker gotinjured in that game,

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quarterback for Tennessee andhis draft stock took a huge hit.
So this go just with that goesdeep, because now let some shit
about that come out.
Michigan gave South Carolina,tennessee's signals and
ultimately they beat them andHinden Hooker got injured.
Because if you, if I know theplay, oh, I can fucking go off

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on y'all ass.
Yeah, yeah, I'm about to smackthis nigga.
He bought to be right here.
I'm a smack the fuck out ofyeah, yeah, yeah, it's like
almost like some targeted yeah,yeah.
So, man, what I like to do is,man, when we do talk about the
controversy that things that'sin sportsman, I like to label
this, this segment oh, I justhad it in my head but this
segment of I don't know we gonnacome up with a good name.

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I just had it.

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Had a brain for people my bad but, I, Didn't
realize, or just even thinkright now of how deep that it
can get, of them targeting them,setting up.
That's the name of the segmentI wanted to have there go
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