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SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
Welcome to this episode of the Phantom Journeys
Podcast with your host, MattMcGurk and Ken Smith, where we
bring the unexplained to yourear holes.
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Ken.
Hey, Matt.
How you doing, buddy?
Good, good.
We're back in the studio.
Back in the studio.
Hey, how are you?
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So what's been going on thisweek?
Oh man, this week, this month,the world has gone nuts.
But it's September.
It is September.
So you can't say this month yet.
It's only like...
That's right.
So it's...
About a week in.
Yeah.
Okay, last month.
And then the month before that.
Unless this month has beenreally...
This week has been really,really long.
(01:25):
It seems like...
Oh God, it feels like...
Actually, last week was kind ofnice because we had the...
Labor Day?
Labor Day, holiday.
Oh, yeah.
So we didn't have to labor.
Exactly.
That's it.
Because who likes labor?
You get paid to not to labor.
Even my neighbors don't likelabor.
Nice.
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And they don't like saber.
He's a rhymer.
I'm an old timer.
I can either dive or...
So sit back and relax.
Because Matt's
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
coming
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
back.
Back with the beats.
Drum.
With the ghostly feet.
And the neat beats.
I think we should move on.
Yes.
Well, that's it.
Back to our MC Phantom days.
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Yeah.
Wiki wiki.
So, you know, yeah, there's,there's, you know, it's just
been, there's been so much newsand technically we're, we
haven't stepped inside of seasonthree just yet.
That's right.
We're in the ethereal regionbetween season two and season
three.
So right now, Ken, man, thealien are currently heading
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towards area 51.
Oh, I don't know why that wasalso.
But because of the intensity ofthe 3i Atlas, I thought it might
be a good idea to kind of throwour thoughts on the bandwagon
that's spiraling out of control.
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Well, so first of all, I'm notfamiliar with the 3i Atlas, so
why don't you go ahead andexplain that?
I will.
We will get into it.
There's a couple of things Iwant to just touch on before
we...
When we say three I, we'retalking like eyeball I or the
three I's like the vowel?
I don't actually know why it'scalled three-eye.
(03:29):
Maybe it's just a, like, maybethere's a two-eye.
Maybe there's a one-eye.
I don't know.
It's usually the third eye isyour intuition, spiritual
center.
There you go.
So I just thought maybe thatwas.
Maybe it is.
Maybe that could be something.
Maybe I thought maybe I wastrying to be smart and think
ahead.
Can is smarticles.
(03:51):
Ooh.
Like particles.
Okay.
So.
UNKNOWN (03:56):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (03:56):
So what have you been up to?
I think it's been about twomonths since we...
We had a short break in betweenthe season, but then with
this...
It's been quite two months.
It's been a month and a half.
Almost.
Really?
I think.
It's been two months since we'vebeen in the studio?
I think so.
Because we took...
We recorded...
Four weeks.
Four weeks.
(04:16):
And then we had like a two-weekhiatus.
You know what?
It was a week before the airshow with Camarillo, which kind
of sucked.
They didn't have any Jeffers.
Oh.
They didn't have the Hornets, soit wasn't loud.
So anyone that remembered theyear prior, we were recording
and all of a sudden all hellbroke loose because all these
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jet fighters flew over like wewere being attacked.
Yeah.
And we had to run outside andlook and like, ah! But then we
came back and listened to theaudio and you couldn't hear them
at all.
Because we left the room.
Which raised on the other linelike, jeez.
But it was shaking the house.
Yeah.
And yet you couldn't hear it tothe mics.
It was really loud.
Not an electronic sausage.
(05:01):
So, yeah.
Have you been up to anything?
Oh, yeah.
You asked me a question.
Yeah, Ken.
Let's see.
What did I do over that time?
I've just been working.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same.
The wife was in New Mexico forthree weeks on business, so I
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got to play Bachelor for awhile.
That was kind of cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Send me a picture of horsediamond on an Indian cafe.
Oh, yeah.
My wife got to go have lunch inRoswell, New Mexico.
She has cousins in Carlsbad,which is not far from Roswell.
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Are they Indians?
They met up in Roswell and hadlunch and stuff.
And I guess it was getting closeto the Roswell anniversary
yearly celebration.
And I asked for a T-shirt.
You know what I got?
What?
Zero.
What?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Even if I hadn't asked, you'dthink that she would know that I
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would want an alien t-shirt.
Why would you want an alient-shirt?
It's not as if you have likea...
Oh.
It's not as if you have an aliensoda company or anything.
But...
No, that's about all I've beenup to.
What about you?
Yeah, me, honestly, not a wholelot.
Just writing and looking atthe...
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Waiting and rhyming and writingand writing.
Waiting and whapping.
And working.
Waiting, whapping and working.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Inconceivable.
It's been a real...
I have a bad memory.
I don't know.
Mow it.
Mow it.
But...
Okay, so...
There's been a lot of news inthe past month or two that's
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just nuts.
And...
About nuts?
Not about nuts.
It's just nuts.
Just nuts.
nuts for instance alright whatwould you do if you seen a
social media post about the LAzoo asking to donate pets to the
zoo I don't I didn't see that azoo in Denmark has asked people
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to donate excess pets to the zoobut not for like you know
they're gonna feed them thetigers And they're not talking
about dogs and cats either.
They're talking about sheep orbulls.
Well, they should say livestockinstead of cats.
Yeah, I know.
But I think they're looking formore attention.
What?
They're looking for what?
And people look it up.
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But still, though, I mean...
Oh, my God.
The thought of collecting dogsto feed them.
Oh, I know.
That's horrific.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe it's worth it once theydeal with that.
But yeah, no, it's just thatkind of thing.
I thought maybe I'd write alittle kind of like a story
piece on that.
But honestly, it's just...
How do you have a sparelivestock, though?
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Yeah, like an excess.
I mean, that's just like youeither meant to have it or it
just showed up.
Maybe you have like an excess, acouple of cows lying around.
Okay, so let's say you have aherd.
Uh-huh.
What makes it an excess?
How many more?
More than a herd.
Two herds.
How many more than a herd?
How many cows in a herd?
I would say at least five.
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Five, I'd say.
Yeah, okay, maybe five or ten.
The same thing, less
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
than
SPEAKER_02 (08:24):
five is a couple of cows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or several cows.
Several.
Well, maybe five is several.
Seven.
I'm going to say seven is aherd.
Seven.
That's a good number.
Maybe.
Have you heard?
So, if I have 10, then I have anaccess account?
Maybe.
But a herd should be like sevento what?
I'd say like 10 or 20.
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Maybe not 20.
Maybe 20 is a lot.
I don't know.
They used to have these reallybig cows.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah.
Maybe that's a lot of herds.
I don't know.
I'm just...
I'm just wondering.
That's just what I heard.
I was just wondering how youcome to the conclusion that you
have an excess of livestock.
I know, yeah.
(09:07):
Maybe if you have like a coupleof horned, I'm like, you know
what?
I can deal with getting rid of acouple.
I don't know.
Throw a couple of lamb in therefor kicks.
Maybe if you had a goat that wasjust ornery and always got into
stuff.
And every time you turn around,it'd like bite you in the ass or
something.
I don't know.
I'd be threatening it, but Idon't know if I could feed it to
it.
tiger for like people who whoslaughter uh animals for food
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which it's a normal process idon't love it but i still eat
meat so i'll be a hypocrite notto say otherwise but like for
those kind of people that dostuff like that maybe it's not a
big deal maybe it's a guy youhear have a have an extra couple
cows just like this i don't knowi just it's in the u.s i bet you
they get a tax write-off yeahfor the value of the livestock
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it was interesting because i waswondering like if they're really
desperate for things like thislike for example then why have
the tiger well yeah I know wellI don't know a lot of animals in
the zoo they can't buy animalsthat's a problem so because if
they buy animals then they'rebuying other animals what if
they had an extra wildebeest andthey'd have their problems
(10:17):
solved they just need them tomate have a mating program for
the wildebeest and the waterbuffalo so they can grow their
own livestock What did Dutchtigers eat before they needed
food?
I think they had food.
It's just that they can't buyanymore.
(10:39):
Do Dutch tigers eat differentstuff than, let's say, tigers in
India or whatever?
I'm sure they eat the samething.
Yeah.
Do Dutch tigers roar in someweird accent like the Dutch
talk?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Okay.
(11:01):
I was trying to set you upfor...
I know, but I couldn't.
It popped in my head.
No.
Yeah.
But I was thinking, like, forthe likes of, like, North Dakota
with all the squirrels, youcould ship over, like, a couple
of hundred thousand squirrels.
And nobody would ever notice.
Exactly.
Or boars.
Well, maybe the squirrel bonesget stuck in their teeth.
(11:23):
Well, like, boars in, like...
Midwest that's a problem isn'tit like Louisiana and stuff like
that oh in the south why can'tthey just like get those because
they're mean as heck oh mean ohyeah well they they knew they um
the one thing I will say is theysaid they would anesthetize fuck
(11:45):
anesthetize yeah for some reasonthat word is in my head so they
do that and then they feed it tothem so it's not as if they go
here they don't make the tigerwork for it huh you look cheap
Run! If you can run to that holein the wall over there, we'll
spare you.
Or, you know, prisoners.
(12:06):
I mean, some really badprisoners, and there you go.
The tiger doesn't want to befed.
He wants to hunt.
Exactly.
Like a T-Rex.
We got one outside.
I just ran past.
SPEAKER_01 (12:20):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
we got one outside.
So, there was one other strangebit of news that I had heard.
If that last story wasn'tstrange, we made it strange.
Yeah, well, this next piece ofnews might shock you.
Okay.
I mean, it might shock you.
The idea of it, I understand thewhy, but the doing is the
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stupidest thing I've ever heardin my life.
Okay, I'm afraid to hear now.
I'm going to start off by sayinglike, do you have an American
flag outside your house?
Inside my house?
I'm sure I've got something withan American flag on it.
I don't think I own an actualAmerican flag.
Right.
I mean, I don't understand.
I mean, I have one aroundsomewhere.
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I have an Irish flag rightthere.
Are you saying you're morepatriotic, more American than I
am?
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Not right now, especially.
But in Ireland.
Okay.
Right?
Oh, I think.
Go ahead.
Okay.
The Dublin City Council.
My wife was telling me aboutthis.
You guys were talking aboutthis.
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Has asked people to take down.
They work
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
together.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
They've asked people to takedown their Irish flags.
Okay, so what's the reasonbehind it?
Here's the thing.
I've had the reason, but theidea is taking them down from
public areas, not your houses.
It's always houses, but I thinkit's...
So they can't fly the Irishflag, let's say, at City Hall.
If City Hall puts it up, maybe,but people are putting Irish
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flags up everywhere.
Okay.
And non-Irish residents arefinding it racist.
Well...
So do you know what?
Well, but you were living in acountry that has that flag.
So there is a small reasoningfor it, but I'm not saying the
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reason is acceptable.
Okay, okay.
So the reason for it is becauseanti-immigration are supposedly
using it as a weapon to say oiland only, like no immigrants
allowed.
Oh, okay.
Right now.
Okay.
kind of like what's going on inparts of the US yeah kind of
(14:32):
right so people are puttingIrish flags up on streets on
poles on like in like publicparks which to me is okay I'm
like fucking do it but they'reasking people not to do it and
to take them down and the newIrish commissioner whatever the
fuck Garda yeah he's kind ofsounds like he's on board with
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it it sounds like they're tryingto detour were being looked at
as a nationalist country, whereyou're nationalist being more of
an authoritarian fascist state.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Well, the interesting thing is,have you ever heard of NECAP?
(15:15):
Yeah, I got two of them.
But there's an Irish kind of rapband-ish, and they rap or sing
in Irish.
Okay.
That sounds like their tongueswould get tied to me.
They're actually not too bad.
How does your mouth functionlike that?
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It's very, it's going to like, Idon't know if it would be
leftist or rightist, but it'sgoing to like very Irish only.
Not Irish only, but like they'resinging about the troubles of
Ireland.
SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
And they're also supporting Palestine.
SPEAKER_01 (15:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
Because of the same struggles that we went through,
that they're going through withthe genocide.
SPEAKER_01 (15:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:57):
Right.
So like it's kind of on par withthat and it's been integrated
everywhere and everyone hasIrish flags up but we also have
to remind everybody that Irelandhas a history of conflict with
the British government over thesame kind of so I can see where
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it's a touchy subject but thenthere's also a recent history
behind it as well and likethere's a lot of things like
Ireland honestly is definitelyone of those countries that will
be to force a staple for anothercountry.
Oh, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Except World War II.
They were neutral.
I'm just saying they wereneutral.
Well, there was a reason why wewere neutral.
Fucking England.
Whatever.
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No, we were neutral because wewere trying to regrow our
country.
Yeah.
Politics, right?
Anyways, so we had only come outover fucking Civil War anyway,
so the mad thing about the Irishflag is it was gifted to Ireland
(17:01):
in I think it was like 18...
50 or 18, 48, something like
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (17:06):
From France.
SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
And it was first used in like 1916 or 19, I think
it was 1916.
I'm not sure if it was usedbefore that, so don't quote me
on that.
I'm not like a historian onIrish history.
But first used in 1916, usedagain in the war for
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independence and eventuallybecame our national flag.
Okay.
But The meaning behind itbasically is the green is the
Roman Catholics.
The orange is the president.
The white is the peace betweenthe two.
The flag itself isn't racist.
It's a very symbolic of thehistory of Ireland.
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It's like everything that thegreen hate is on the other side
and vice versa, but in themiddle there's a peace.
It's more than just that forIrish people.
Now, I don't really fly itbecause of the whole religious
aspect but I have it up becauseI'm Irish and it's like there's
so much more to history than1916 even before that anyway but
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it wasn't always the nationalflag
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
okay
SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
Ireland has had many flags throughout the years right
and one of them you may haveseen it was kind of a green one
with a harp yeah I've seen ablue with a harp that's actually
the older one okay older one nowanother one they tried to
integrate was the St.
Patrick's flag, which is a redX.
SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Right?
Now, one thing I will say is ifyou ask Irish people to not put
up an Irish flag, they're goingto put up Irish flags in bulk to
spite you.
Right.
Right?
So, the St.
Patrick cross...
No, not cross.
X was meant to go on the UnionJack.
(19:03):
Okay.
To make, like, the UnitedKingdom part...
Ireland the part of the UnitedKingdom, right?
Right, right, right.
But if you look at the UnionJack, there's an offset white X.
Oh, from the...
Offset from the red one.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So, I think it's top right andthe bottom left.
It kind of looks like thereshould be another X in there.
(19:24):
Right.
That was supposed to be Ireland.
Okay.
But to despite them...
We have a new flag.
Well, a new flag.
I mean, we had the, I'm prettysure it was the harp, the green
harp with the kind of femaleharp.
Anyway, long story short.
So when the flag, when the Irishflag is flying, the closest
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color to the flagpole is green,right?
Yeah.
So how do we know that your guysaren't really flying the flag of
the Ivory Coast?
Why?
Because it's the same colorscheme except theirs is orange
to the flagpole.
Well, the Does it be...
orange the flag then I'm justI'm just teasing now just well
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because it's funny actually theIrish coast flag is just a
reverse of the Irish flag that'swhy I brought it up it's
actually I never thought of thatmyself but I wonder what you
know how I know that how do youknow that because if you go to
aliens company.com there's about200 flag shirts that I've
designed very cool and youshould check that out yeah you
(20:29):
should check it out it's one ofmy best sellers not the Irish
flag one I told a few of thosemy flag shirts yeah no sellers
don't quote me on like all thestuff i said like yes most of it
is true but i don't really gowell he said that and it was
wrong if i'm wrong i'm sorry buti know for a fact that if you
ask where's people take down theflag they tell you to go and
show you i'm pulling up no ibelieve it so if it turns out
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that they knock on doors and askpeople to take that flag down so
my but the my problem is is thatknowing me if i was in ireland
and and the guard knocked on mydoor and went take your flag
down but tell him to go and showyou and I'd probably you'd
probably go well you're eithergoing to get arrested or get
fined and then I would say tohim go and show you right now
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there's a reason why I'm sayinggo and show you because it's gas
GAS okay right and that'salready it's an Irish thing it's
like oh that's gas but the thingis again is you don't pay the
fine you go to jail and then yougo to jail and you go to jail
then it causes a fucking flyingflag yeah I know it causes
that's what I'm doing for I wasthinking so my question is does
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Ireland have like like we havethe First Amendment the freedom
of I would it's been a reallylong time since I I mean do they
have some kind of legalprotections which you're allowed
to kind of yeah freedom ofspeech or something like that
it's definitely yeah I thinkthere's a legal binding to
Ireland with the flag where youcan't I have to look into it.
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I don't want to say this is forsure because it's been a really
long time since I looked atthat, but I know that the
tricolor is a legal bound thingto being Irish kind of thing.
Interesting.
Right, so let's just move.
Do you have questions?
One more question.
So the immigrants in Ireland,are they primarily from a
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certain region or are we lookingat a hodgepodge of people from
all over the place?
Mostly hodgepodge, fair, butthere is a certain group that's
mostly having issues with theflag.
We won't say who.
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So, Ken.
Yes, Matt, Ken.
I was really hoping to haveSeason 3 in this spot, as I had
mentioned.
But everywhere you look thesedays, somebody is talking about
3.0 Atlas.
So, I wanted to throw this oneup as kind of an episode before
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we start Season 3.
SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_02 (23:43):
I've also been touching base with Crystal, and
the next time we record, we'llget together and have fun with
serious episode on the power ofsafety series part three the
safety in the spiritual realmbrought to you by phantom
journeys podcast absolutely ialso want to give a shout out to
paranormal 24 7 that's some ofthe coolest people most
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down-to-earth people i've metwho we met at our saint
patrick's day special in anaheim
SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
oh yeah
SPEAKER_02 (24:14):
who came all the way from palm springs just to meet
us so much love long drivethrough the or just come listen
to us talk about leprechaunsexactly so yeah thank you
absolutely and they did inviteus out to Palm Springs for
October Spookfest which Iactually have to ask you to put
them up on the website for thembut we will so one day we will
(24:37):
get out to see them because youknow they're really cool people
Ken yes we briefly spoke aboutthis a few episodes ago I
believe you called it aseven-mile-long poo.
Yeah.
Maybe I shouldn't have.
(24:57):
Nope.
broadcast your ship that lookslike a seven mile long...
Well, maybe a poo is somethingdifferent in their language.
Well done, Matt.
Now we know who to blame whenthe aliens invade.
Okay.
So, 3i Atlas is what it'scalled.
It has become a bit of a one-hitwonder.
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Let's hope it's not a one-hitand that's the end of it.
Many questions.
So, the spaceship is 3i Atlas?
Yes.
Oh, I see.
I did not know that.
Alright.
I mean, the asteroid is 3IAtlas.
Oh.
We don't actually know what thespaceship is.
When you said 3I Atlas, I wasthinking it was like a New Age
(25:41):
thought belief or something.
Interesting.
Yeah.
See, I didn't know what hisactual name was.
I just knew it as aseven-mile-long poo.
He said it too, aliens.
So many questions.
Just what is this thing?
Simply a passing rock?
An alien spaceship?
Or maybe, just maybe, the Heraldof the Fifth World.
(26:03):
Ooh.
Have I been to the Fourth World?
You're in it.
Oh, cool.
Have I been to the First Worldthen?
No.
Oh.
No, humans didn't exist in theFourth World, but we'll get to
that.
Okay.
Which is interesting because...
Anyway.
So, there's been a ton of peoplegiving their two cents on this.
And originally...
I gave five cents.
(26:25):
You did?
I did.
We were talking about the sevenmile long pool and I feel like
putting five cents on that one.
There you go.
There you go.
Originally, when I had wrotethis, there was one Harvard
scientist that is now everywhereyou look, which is Professor
A.V.
Loeb.
Loeb.
(26:45):
Personally, I don't know muchabout him, but just from the
videos I had seen randomlythrough Facebook, YouTube,
frigging TikTok, all that stuff,he suggests that it might have
nuclear energy capabilitiessuggesting the possibility of
non-human design.
Come on, just say it.
(27:05):
Just say it.
It's an alien spaceship.
Come on.
Yeah, it's an alien spaceship.
So, this object emits its ownlight source.
Mostly, if not all objects inspace reflect light from nearby
stars.
However, this one seems to be inneed of headlights.
(27:26):
I don't actually know why anyship would need headlights.
stuff if a ship is traveling atthe speed of light and then
turns on its headlights thenwhat happens I have always been
curious about that I would thinkthat it's like you always stay
ahead of it let's say you're ina train going 50 miles an hour
you jump up you're stilltraveling at that same spot yes
(27:48):
because your momentum is movingI think it's the same thing with
the headlights I think it wouldproject out a little bit further
because now the source istraveling at the speed of light
but then also something'sprojecting out at speed light.
So therefore...
But if you're moving on a train,let's say...
I don't know how fast a bulletgoes.
It's on my head.
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How fast a bullet goes?
A bullet.
Oh, fast.
Fast.
So if you are on a train that'smoving that fast, right?
As fast as a bullet.
As fast as a bullet.
Okay.
And let's speed...
That's why it's called a bullettrain.
Let's say a little bit slowerthan a bullet, right?
Okay.
And you fire a bullet Thebullet's going to move at a slow
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speed.
You'll probably see the bulletmoving away from you.
I don't think it'd go fasterthan the train.
I think it would because thesource is traveling at a fixed
rate.
So when you fire something thattravels the size of the speed of
a bullet, it's going to travelthe speed of the bullet from the
source.
If you're moving in a car at 50miles an hour or a train, let's
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say you're on top of a train.
On top of the train?
On top of the train.
Okay, good.
Yeah, exactly.
And you hole up a feather.
Yes.
And you troll the feather.
It's going to go way back therebecause of wind resistance.
UNKNOWN (29:09):
Maybe.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
You have to be inside the train.
Science with Phantom Journeypodcast.
No, that'd be physics, wouldn'tit?
Never mind.
Same thing.
If you're inside the train, thenyou wouldn't have as much wind
resistance.
That's true.
But in space, there's no wind.
That's right.
That's why they did anexperiment when they were on the
moon where they dropped afeather and a hammer.
That's right.
at the same time.
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I remember that.
I remember that.
My frigging professor would killme if he didn't remember that
one.
Yeah.
Gravity.
So what were we talking about?
Oh, the headlights.
It's like, how did we get tothis point?
Yeah.
However, I was thinking though,a spaceship would need sensors.
So, and that probably rules outheadlights.
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However, retro rockets slowingit down for an Earth orbit.
There you go.
That's lights in front of theship I mean yeah fair enough but
we're talking about we'retalking about advanced alien
spacecrafts not Elon Musk's wellthey gotta slow down somehow
press the button and they slowdown that's Star Wars that is
(30:15):
pretty cool in Star Wars how allof a sudden yeah well yeah
that's I think that's the FVLit's still I don't care it is
cool it is cool it's even coolerhow 50 ships gonna show up and
nobody ever parks in the samespot yeah So I do have a bit of
a far-fetched theory.
Okay.
Not that any of our othertheories have been far-fetched.
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But this one's very far and veryfetched.
Okay.
So we're soon to witness a novaof the T-Corone Borealis, a.k.a.
the blaze star.
Really?
I hadn't heard of those.
I know the star Betelgeuse.
Yeah.
Is bound to go supernova at anypoint, and they've seen that one
(30:58):
that does, and And they'retalking within the next 25
years, I think I heard.
Well, I think this is supposedto happen in the next couple of
months.
Well, they say up to like...
Okay, so maybe it's...
It's soon.
Maybe one of the...
Between either Beetlejuice orthis one.
Or they could be the same thing.
I should know this stuff.
All I know is that whenBeetlejuice goes supernova,
they're saying for about sixmonths, six to eight months...
(31:22):
It'll be like having a nighttimestar or a nighttime sun.
That's interesting.
It is.
You know how far away that thingis and it's going to light up.
It's going to become the thirdbrightest object in the, in the
night sky behind the moon andthe star series.
Would it be as bright as Venusor brighter?
(31:42):
Like it's supposed to be like,like Venus is actually brighter.
So it might've been Venus is thethird or the second, the moon.
That's pretty bright though.
I mean, Venus has been has beenI probably talked about talked
about this before but Venus hasbeen misidentified as enemy
fighters coming to oh yeah I gota funny story and I may have
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shared this on the show I thinkit's okay I went into Roswell it
was about four o'clock in themorning yeah and here I am like
I'm gonna go see some aliens I'mgonna go see some aliens and
I've been driving all night andI come around this bend and all
of a sudden there's thisintensely bright light just
shining right at me.
(32:25):
And I'm like,
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
what the hell is that?
SPEAKER_02 (32:28):
I hadn't even got into Roswell and here they are.
Yeah, they were waiting for you.
I even flashed a flashlight atit to see if it was an aircraft
or something.
And then later I was like, oh,it's Venus.
I'm an idiot.
Now, Venus is bright as hell.
I mean, I think it even filledme sometimes.
Because my street up the roadgoes like really slanted.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
And it kind of just looks like there's something
like frigging the top of thehill like and that was Venus I
think it was either Venus orJupiter or something like that
but yeah now the I've been thisCorona Borealis I've been and
I've been distracting you that'sokay that's okay this is a
binary star that will soonexperience a reoccurring nova
(33:13):
event the white dwarf companionpulls material that's red dwarf
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
you're
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
thinking oh the white dwarf companion pulls
material from the red giant nextto it that causes a massive
increase in brightness which canbe seen by the naked eye.
The last eruption occurred 80years ago in 1946 and
astronomers are anticipatingthis to be a spectacular event
(33:50):
to occur sometime soon and Ifspotted, it could be a
once-in-a-lifetime opportunityto see a nova.
That's true, because I don'tthink I'm going to be here for
80 years.
That's true.
We never know.
The difference between a novaand a supernova is that...
One super.
Exactly.
A nova is Latin for new.
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Of course, every 80 years or so,this white dwarf feeds off the
red giant until it lets loose abright flash of light in its new
state.
Nice.
A supernova, which is prettymuch the end of the life cycle
of a star.
That's what's going to happenwith Beetlejuice, yeah.
(34:35):
This would cause...
I've said it twice.
There you go.
I've said that name twice.
Say it again.
Say it again.
We don't have enough to curse.
Here's John.
That's the wrong way.
I love it.
I knew where you were going.
The end of life which would bethe last breath of a star
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causing a bright flashthroughout the galaxy and then
it's no more my theory does ithave a soul maybe maybe we don't
know actually it probably doesokay what's your theory if you
wanted to witness somethinglet's say the northern lights
that were going to be happeningover LA right and it's something
that you really wanted to seeyou might you might stay at home
(35:18):
and just look up at the sky butit's not as cool as seeing
something up close maybe youdrive to a clearer sky or go to
Griffith Park Observatory.
What if Earth was the best viewin the galaxy?
Or the Sol system?
This isn't just a passingasteroid.
It's a tourist ship.
(35:38):
This isn't the only passingasteroid, but there's no one
talking about the others.
There are five others.
But they won't be near theEarth, so I think they're kind
of out of the spotlight.
But are the five others fromoutside the our solar system
because that's the big thingabout this one it's interstellar
from outside the solar system Ithink it's been here before
that's an interesting part it'sjust been so far away it wasn't
(36:02):
going to be as close as it willbe now if this was a tourist
ship of 90 billion aliens allcoming to see the once in a
lifetime opportunity the earthis their red light district and
the after party is worldwideanal probing laughing That's a
(36:23):
lot of aliens.
That's a lot of aliens, yeah.
There's only about 8 billionpeople on the planet.
Oh my God.
That's going to be a tear.
You're going to be really sorry.
They'll be on the tear, yeah.
But, you know, we'll get to thatanother time.
I want to talk about one otherthing that involves UAPs.
By now, you've probably seen thevideo from Mexico, right?
(36:45):
From Mexico.
SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
Which one?
SPEAKER_02 (36:47):
The kind of Star Destroyer looking thing.
There's a 10-second clip ofprobably the most clearest shot
of a ship in what looks likeit's been hit by lightning or
emitting a bright blue light inthe clouds.
Now, I've seen thousands of UAPvideos, and for the most part,
(37:08):
looking at the video, my brainautomatically wants to say, oh,
that's not real.
What happens if we actuallyrecord an alien spaceship, and
no one believes it becausethere's so many AI-generated
videos and images and stuff likethat.
And not only AI, there's just somany people trying to hoax.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
(37:29):
I've wondered that too.
I mean, but I've wondered moreabout like when they show clips
like old, like handheld.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting yousay that.
Movies of aliens.
Yeah.
I kind of wonder.
Yeah.
Well, that looks pretty good.
Yeah.
But yeah, you wonder.
So most are easy to say, oh,definitely that's AI.
(37:50):
But the odd thing about thisThis one, apparently, it has
been tested by AI scanners andcame back absolutely not AI.
Well, that's why AI would tellyou if it wasn't AI.
Now, I want to believe thisthing is a real deal, but I've
got another theory, and I thinkKen just kind of touched on it
there a second ago.
This goes back to a previoustalk process that may or may not
(38:12):
help my idea.
We had talked about how 80s and90s TV shows had stuntmen who
flew choppers, are low andblind.
I think you saw that movie, TheFall Guys.
Oh, sweet.
I might fall from a tallbuilding.
I might roll over a new car.
So, you know, they do all thatjust for like a two second clip.
But if something was to gowrong, it was potential death
(38:34):
compared to throwing in someCGI.
So it's a lot easier to sit atyour computer and make AI.
But if you know what you'redoing, at least.
But what about making fakeminiatures?
Right?
It could take a small team of acouple of miniature designers to
put a together videos that AIgenerators would think it was
(38:55):
real.
And then posting stuff like thatthese days would get millions of
hits, reposts, comments, whichactually pays money these days.
If you're using an actualminiature ship, there's a lot of
technical things that you'd haveto know.
You can make it look really bad,though.
Not really bad, but like...
Or like bad video.
(39:16):
Yeah.
Because I mean, there's beenreally...
Because that does...
When I was in high school, mybest friend at the time...
and I, we made a movie calledProject Contact.
And we used that as a way tohide some of the defects of some
of the effects we were trying todo is that, oh, there's
interference.
(39:37):
Yeah, but I mean, to getsomething small to look big is
actually kind of difficultbecause the scale, I can very
quickly notice something whenthe scale is not correct.
So you need to make sureeverything in that image is to
(39:58):
scale with each other.
Or your mind automatically says,oh, no, no, no.
Absolutely.
And you can't mix the two withCGI or AI because then there's
so many markers in the videothat they can identify that
that's been tweaked.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
I'm not saying that someonethat's very industrious and
(40:21):
determined couldn't do it yeahbut there is some technical
stuff there that you'd have toreally make sure but you know
then again you could do trialand error you're like yeah this
doesn't look quite right i needi need and then you learn from
you know i was kind of lookright i was kind of thinking
about that when i was writingthis that's what kind of true in
like miniature like experts yeahyou know what i mean like okay
(40:43):
like people who might not have ajob and just kind of like well
you know i can make money on theinternet from like strange
videos how much if it goes wellhow many people out there are
have 3D printers I mean youcould print something up that
hasn't been seen but you knowwhat I find really amazing is
that I see people on theinternet advertising or not
advertising but showing how they3D printed a 6 foot long
(41:07):
Starship Enterprise like oh mygod it's one awesome freaking
cool two oh my god the workamount of work and money put
into that because they areexpensive the filament but just
to do Let's say...
And it doesn't have to beminiature miniature.
Yeah.
I mean, it could be large, butit's not like...
Your ship could be, you know, 12inches long.
(41:29):
Yeah.
And you can still do somethingpretty believable.
Yeah.
But you've got to make sure thatyour lighting is right.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Your painting is right.
Your...
Everything that's around it thatyou...
Because you've got to includeother...
You just can't put a blue sky orsomething behind it.
You have to do something...
Well, I mean, night time ispretty handy, but I guess the
lighting thing was...
But you kind of need to putsomething with it to give it...
(41:51):
believability I think yeah Iwonder if that's what the
lightning strikes that wasactually pretty impressive and
I'm not saying that it can't bedone in Photoshop or video but
the fact that the light to methe light was blinking off the
back end because they had a lotof white lights in the back end
but the reflection off theclouds I thought was pretty cool
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Ken.
Hey, Matt.
How you doing, buddy?
Good, good.
We're back in the studio.
Back in the studio.
Hey, how are you?
(01:04):
So what's been going on thisweek?
Oh man, this week, this month,the world has gone nuts.
But it's September.
It is September.
So you can't say this month yet.
It's only like...
That's right.
So it's...
About a week in.
Yeah.
Okay, last month.
And then the month before that.
Unless this month has beenreally...
This week has been really,really long.
(01:25):
It seems like...
Oh God, it feels like...
Actually, last week was kind ofnice because we had the...
Labor Day?
Labor Day, holiday.
Oh, yeah.
So we didn't have to labor.
Exactly.
That's it.
Because who likes labor?
You get paid to not to labor.
Even my neighbors don't likelabor.
Nice.
(01:46):
And they don't like saber.
He's a rhymer.
I'm an old timer.
I can either dive or...
So sit back and relax.
Because Matt's
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
coming
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
back.
Back with the beats.
Drum.
With the ghostly feet.
And the neat beats.
I think we should move on.
Yes.
Well, that's it.
Back to our MC Phantom days.
(02:26):
Yeah.
Wiki wiki.
So, you know, yeah, there's,there's, you know, it's just
been, there's been so much newsand technically we're, we
haven't stepped inside of seasonthree just yet.
That's right.
We're in the ethereal regionbetween season two and season
three.
So right now, Ken, man, thealien are currently heading
(02:47):
towards area 51.
Oh, I don't know why that wasalso.
But because of the intensity ofthe 3i Atlas, I thought it might
be a good idea to kind of throwour thoughts on the bandwagon
that's spiraling out of control.
(03:09):
Well, so first of all, I'm notfamiliar with the 3i Atlas, so
why don't you go ahead andexplain that?
I will.
We will get into it.
There's a couple of things Iwant to just touch on before
we...
When we say three I, we'retalking like eyeball I or the
three I's like the vowel?
I don't actually know why it'scalled three-eye.
(03:29):
Maybe it's just a, like, maybethere's a two-eye.
Maybe there's a one-eye.
I don't know.
It's usually the third eye isyour intuition, spiritual
center.
There you go.
So I just thought maybe thatwas.
Maybe it is.
Maybe that could be something.
Maybe I thought maybe I wastrying to be smart and think
ahead.
Can is smarticles.
(03:51):
Ooh.
Like particles.
Okay.
So.
UNKNOWN (03:56):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (03:56):
So what have you been up to?
I think it's been about twomonths since we...
We had a short break in betweenthe season, but then with
this...
It's been quite two months.
It's been a month and a half.
Almost.
Really?
I think.
It's been two months since we'vebeen in the studio?
I think so.
Because we took...
We recorded...
Four weeks.
Four weeks.
(04:16):
And then we had like a two-weekhiatus.
You know what?
It was a week before the airshow with Camarillo, which kind
of sucked.
They didn't have any Jeffers.
Oh.
They didn't have the Hornets, soit wasn't loud.
So anyone that remembered theyear prior, we were recording
and all of a sudden all hellbroke loose because all these
(04:38):
jet fighters flew over like wewere being attacked.
Yeah.
And we had to run outside andlook and like, ah! But then we
came back and listened to theaudio and you couldn't hear them
at all.
Because we left the room.
Which raised on the other linelike, jeez.
But it was shaking the house.
Yeah.
And yet you couldn't hear it tothe mics.
It was really loud.
Not an electronic sausage.
(05:01):
So, yeah.
Have you been up to anything?
Oh, yeah.
You asked me a question.
Yeah, Ken.
Let's see.
What did I do over that time?
I've just been working.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same.
The wife was in New Mexico forthree weeks on business, so I
(05:21):
got to play Bachelor for awhile.
That was kind of cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Send me a picture of horsediamond on an Indian cafe.
Oh, yeah.
My wife got to go have lunch inRoswell, New Mexico.
She has cousins in Carlsbad,which is not far from Roswell.
(05:44):
Are they Indians?
They met up in Roswell and hadlunch and stuff.
And I guess it was getting closeto the Roswell anniversary
yearly celebration.
And I asked for a T-shirt.
You know what I got?
What?
Zero.
What?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Even if I hadn't asked, you'dthink that she would know that I
(06:05):
would want an alien t-shirt.
Why would you want an alient-shirt?
It's not as if you have likea...
Oh.
It's not as if you have an aliensoda company or anything.
But...
No, that's about all I've beenup to.
What about you?
Yeah, me, honestly, not a wholelot.
Just writing and looking atthe...
(06:26):
Waiting and rhyming and writingand writing.
Waiting and whapping.
And working.
Waiting, whapping and working.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Inconceivable.
It's been a real...
I have a bad memory.
I don't know.
Mow it.
Mow it.
But...
Okay, so...
There's been a lot of news inthe past month or two that's
(06:51):
just nuts.
And...
About nuts?
Not about nuts.
It's just nuts.
Just nuts.
nuts for instance alright whatwould you do if you seen a
social media post about the LAzoo asking to donate pets to the
zoo I don't I didn't see that azoo in Denmark has asked people
(07:17):
to donate excess pets to the zoobut not for like you know
they're gonna feed them thetigers And they're not talking
about dogs and cats either.
They're talking about sheep orbulls.
Well, they should say livestockinstead of cats.
Yeah, I know.
But I think they're looking formore attention.
What?
They're looking for what?
And people look it up.
(07:38):
But still, though, I mean...
Oh, my God.
The thought of collecting dogsto feed them.
Oh, I know.
That's horrific.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe it's worth it once theydeal with that.
But yeah, no, it's just thatkind of thing.
I thought maybe I'd write alittle kind of like a story
piece on that.
But honestly, it's just...
How do you have a sparelivestock, though?
(07:58):
Yeah, like an excess.
I mean, that's just like youeither meant to have it or it
just showed up.
Maybe you have like an excess, acouple of cows lying around.
Okay, so let's say you have aherd.
Uh-huh.
What makes it an excess?
How many more?
More than a herd.
Two herds.
How many more than a herd?
How many cows in a herd?
I would say at least five.
(08:21):
Five, I'd say.
Yeah, okay, maybe five or ten.
The same thing, less
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
than
SPEAKER_02 (08:24):
five is a couple of cows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or several cows.
Several.
Well, maybe five is several.
Seven.
I'm going to say seven is aherd.
Seven.
That's a good number.
Maybe.
Have you heard?
So, if I have 10, then I have anaccess account?
Maybe.
But a herd should be like sevento what?
I'd say like 10 or 20.
(08:46):
Maybe not 20.
Maybe 20 is a lot.
I don't know.
They used to have these reallybig cows.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah.
Maybe that's a lot of herds.
I don't know.
I'm just...
I'm just wondering.
That's just what I heard.
I was just wondering how youcome to the conclusion that you
have an excess of livestock.
I know, yeah.
(09:07):
Maybe if you have like a coupleof horned, I'm like, you know
what?
I can deal with getting rid of acouple.
I don't know.
Throw a couple of lamb in therefor kicks.
Maybe if you had a goat that wasjust ornery and always got into
stuff.
And every time you turn around,it'd like bite you in the ass or
something.
I don't know.
I'd be threatening it, but Idon't know if I could feed it to
it.
tiger for like people who whoslaughter uh animals for food
(09:33):
which it's a normal process idon't love it but i still eat
meat so i'll be a hypocrite notto say otherwise but like for
those kind of people that dostuff like that maybe it's not a
big deal maybe it's a guy youhear have a have an extra couple
cows just like this i don't knowi just it's in the u.s i bet you
they get a tax write-off yeahfor the value of the livestock
(09:54):
it was interesting because i waswondering like if they're really
desperate for things like thislike for example then why have
the tiger well yeah I know wellI don't know a lot of animals in
the zoo they can't buy animalsthat's a problem so because if
they buy animals then they'rebuying other animals what if
they had an extra wildebeest andthey'd have their problems
(10:17):
solved they just need them tomate have a mating program for
the wildebeest and the waterbuffalo so they can grow their
own livestock What did Dutchtigers eat before they needed
food?
I think they had food.
It's just that they can't buyanymore.
(10:39):
Do Dutch tigers eat differentstuff than, let's say, tigers in
India or whatever?
I'm sure they eat the samething.
Yeah.
Do Dutch tigers roar in someweird accent like the Dutch
talk?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Okay.
(11:01):
I was trying to set you upfor...
I know, but I couldn't.
It popped in my head.
No.
Yeah.
But I was thinking, like, forthe likes of, like, North Dakota
with all the squirrels, youcould ship over, like, a couple
of hundred thousand squirrels.
And nobody would ever notice.
Exactly.
Or boars.
Well, maybe the squirrel bonesget stuck in their teeth.
(11:23):
Well, like, boars in, like...
Midwest that's a problem isn'tit like Louisiana and stuff like
that oh in the south why can'tthey just like get those because
they're mean as heck oh mean ohyeah well they they knew they um
the one thing I will say is theysaid they would anesthetize fuck
(11:45):
anesthetize yeah for some reasonthat word is in my head so they
do that and then they feed it tothem so it's not as if they go
here they don't make the tigerwork for it huh you look cheap
Run! If you can run to that holein the wall over there, we'll
spare you.
Or, you know, prisoners.
(12:06):
I mean, some really badprisoners, and there you go.
The tiger doesn't want to befed.
He wants to hunt.
Exactly.
Like a T-Rex.
We got one outside.
I just ran past.
SPEAKER_01 (12:20):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
we got one outside.
So, there was one other strangebit of news that I had heard.
If that last story wasn'tstrange, we made it strange.
Yeah, well, this next piece ofnews might shock you.
Okay.
I mean, it might shock you.
The idea of it, I understand thewhy, but the doing is the
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stupidest thing I've ever heardin my life.
Okay, I'm afraid to hear now.
I'm going to start off by sayinglike, do you have an American
flag outside your house?
Inside my house?
I'm sure I've got something withan American flag on it.
I don't think I own an actualAmerican flag.
Right.
I mean, I don't understand.
I mean, I have one aroundsomewhere.
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I have an Irish flag rightthere.
Are you saying you're morepatriotic, more American than I
am?
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Not right now, especially.
But in Ireland.
Okay.
Right?
Oh, I think.
Go ahead.
Okay.
The Dublin City Council.
My wife was telling me aboutthis.
You guys were talking aboutthis.
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Has asked people to take down.
They work
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
together.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
They've asked people to takedown their Irish flags.
Okay, so what's the reasonbehind it?
Here's the thing.
I've had the reason, but theidea is taking them down from
public areas, not your houses.
It's always houses, but I thinkit's...
So they can't fly the Irishflag, let's say, at City Hall.
If City Hall puts it up, maybe,but people are putting Irish
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flags up everywhere.
Okay.
And non-Irish residents arefinding it racist.
Well...
So do you know what?
Well, but you were living in acountry that has that flag.
So there is a small reasoningfor it, but I'm not saying the
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reason is acceptable.
Okay, okay.
So the reason for it is becauseanti-immigration are supposedly
using it as a weapon to say oiland only, like no immigrants
allowed.
Oh, okay.
Right now.
Okay.
kind of like what's going on inparts of the US yeah kind of
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right so people are puttingIrish flags up on streets on
poles on like in like publicparks which to me is okay I'm
like fucking do it but they'reasking people not to do it and
to take them down and the newIrish commissioner whatever the
fuck Garda yeah he's kind ofsounds like he's on board with
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it it sounds like they're tryingto detour were being looked at
as a nationalist country, whereyou're nationalist being more of
an authoritarian fascist state.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Well, the interesting thing is,have you ever heard of NECAP?
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Yeah, I got two of them.
But there's an Irish kind of rapband-ish, and they rap or sing
in Irish.
Okay.
That sounds like their tongueswould get tied to me.
They're actually not too bad.
How does your mouth functionlike that?
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It's very, it's going to like, Idon't know if it would be
leftist or rightist, but it'sgoing to like very Irish only.
Not Irish only, but like they'resinging about the troubles of
Ireland.
SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
And they're also supporting Palestine.
SPEAKER_01 (15:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
Because of the same struggles that we went through,
that they're going through withthe genocide.
SPEAKER_01 (15:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (15:57):
Right.
So like it's kind of on par withthat and it's been integrated
everywhere and everyone hasIrish flags up but we also have
to remind everybody that Irelandhas a history of conflict with
the British government over thesame kind of so I can see where
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it's a touchy subject but thenthere's also a recent history
behind it as well and likethere's a lot of things like
Ireland honestly is definitelyone of those countries that will
be to force a staple for anothercountry.
Oh, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Except World War II.
They were neutral.
I'm just saying they wereneutral.
Well, there was a reason why wewere neutral.
Fucking England.
Whatever.
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No, we were neutral because wewere trying to regrow our
country.
Yeah.
Politics, right?
Anyways, so we had only come outover fucking Civil War anyway,
so the mad thing about the Irishflag is it was gifted to Ireland
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in I think it was like 18...
50 or 18, 48, something like
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (17:06):
From France.
SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
And it was first used in like 1916 or 19, I think
it was 1916.
I'm not sure if it was usedbefore that, so don't quote me
on that.
I'm not like a historian onIrish history.
But first used in 1916, usedagain in the war for
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independence and eventuallybecame our national flag.
Okay.
But The meaning behind itbasically is the green is the
Roman Catholics.
The orange is the president.
The white is the peace betweenthe two.
The flag itself isn't racist.
It's a very symbolic of thehistory of Ireland.
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It's like everything that thegreen hate is on the other side
and vice versa, but in themiddle there's a peace.
It's more than just that forIrish people.
Now, I don't really fly itbecause of the whole religious
aspect but I have it up becauseI'm Irish and it's like there's
so much more to history than1916 even before that anyway but
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it wasn't always the nationalflag
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
okay
SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
Ireland has had many flags throughout the years right
and one of them you may haveseen it was kind of a green one
with a harp yeah I've seen ablue with a harp that's actually
the older one okay older one nowanother one they tried to
integrate was the St.
Patrick's flag, which is a redX.
SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Right?
Now, one thing I will say is ifyou ask Irish people to not put
up an Irish flag, they're goingto put up Irish flags in bulk to
spite you.
Right.
Right?
So, the St.
Patrick cross...
No, not cross.
X was meant to go on the UnionJack.
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Okay.
To make, like, the UnitedKingdom part...
Ireland the part of the UnitedKingdom, right?
Right, right, right.
But if you look at the UnionJack, there's an offset white X.
Oh, from the...
Offset from the red one.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So, I think it's top right andthe bottom left.
It kind of looks like thereshould be another X in there.
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Right.
That was supposed to be Ireland.
Okay.
But to despite them...
We have a new flag.
Well, a new flag.
I mean, we had the, I'm prettysure it was the harp, the green
harp with the kind of femaleharp.
Anyway, long story short.
So when the flag, when the Irishflag is flying, the closest
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color to the flagpole is green,right?
Yeah.
So how do we know that your guysaren't really flying the flag of
the Ivory Coast?
Why?
Because it's the same colorscheme except theirs is orange
to the flagpole.
Well, the Does it be...
orange the flag then I'm justI'm just teasing now just well
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because it's funny actually theIrish coast flag is just a
reverse of the Irish flag that'swhy I brought it up it's
actually I never thought of thatmyself but I wonder what you
know how I know that how do youknow that because if you go to
aliens company.com there's about200 flag shirts that I've
designed very cool and youshould check that out yeah you
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should check it out it's one ofmy best sellers not the Irish
flag one I told a few of thosemy flag shirts yeah no sellers
don't quote me on like all thestuff i said like yes most of it
is true but i don't really gowell he said that and it was
wrong if i'm wrong i'm sorry buti know for a fact that if you
ask where's people take down theflag they tell you to go and
show you i'm pulling up no ibelieve it so if it turns out
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that they knock on doors and askpeople to take that flag down so
my but the my problem is is thatknowing me if i was in ireland
and and the guard knocked on mydoor and went take your flag
down but tell him to go and showyou and I'd probably you'd
probably go well you're eithergoing to get arrested or get
fined and then I would say tohim go and show you right now
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there's a reason why I'm sayinggo and show you because it's gas
GAS okay right and that'salready it's an Irish thing it's
like oh that's gas but the thingis again is you don't pay the
fine you go to jail and then yougo to jail and you go to jail
then it causes a fucking flyingflag yeah I know it causes
that's what I'm doing for I wasthinking so my question is does
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Ireland have like like we havethe First Amendment the freedom
of I would it's been a reallylong time since I I mean do they
have some kind of legalprotections which you're allowed
to kind of yeah freedom ofspeech or something like that
it's definitely yeah I thinkthere's a legal binding to
Ireland with the flag where youcan't I have to look into it.
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I don't want to say this is forsure because it's been a really
long time since I looked atthat, but I know that the
tricolor is a legal bound thingto being Irish kind of thing.
Interesting.
Right, so let's just move.
Do you have questions?
One more question.
So the immigrants in Ireland,are they primarily from a
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certain region or are we lookingat a hodgepodge of people from
all over the place?
Mostly hodgepodge, fair, butthere is a certain group that's
mostly having issues with theflag.
We won't say who.
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So, Ken.
Yes, Matt, Ken.
I was really hoping to haveSeason 3 in this spot, as I had
mentioned.
But everywhere you look thesedays, somebody is talking about
3.0 Atlas.
So, I wanted to throw this oneup as kind of an episode before
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we start Season 3.
SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_02 (23:43):
I've also been touching base with Crystal, and
the next time we record, we'llget together and have fun with
serious episode on the power ofsafety series part three the
safety in the spiritual realmbrought to you by phantom
journeys podcast absolutely ialso want to give a shout out to
paranormal 24 7 that's some ofthe coolest people most
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down-to-earth people i've metwho we met at our saint
patrick's day special in anaheim
SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
oh yeah
SPEAKER_02 (24:14):
who came all the way from palm springs just to meet
us so much love long drivethrough the or just come listen
to us talk about leprechaunsexactly so yeah thank you
absolutely and they did inviteus out to Palm Springs for
October Spookfest which Iactually have to ask you to put
them up on the website for thembut we will so one day we will
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get out to see them because youknow they're really cool people
Ken yes we briefly spoke aboutthis a few episodes ago I
believe you called it aseven-mile-long poo.
Yeah.
Maybe I shouldn't have.
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Nope.
broadcast your ship that lookslike a seven mile long...
Well, maybe a poo is somethingdifferent in their language.
Well done, Matt.
Now we know who to blame whenthe aliens invade.
Okay.
So, 3i Atlas is what it'scalled.
It has become a bit of a one-hitwonder.
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Let's hope it's not a one-hitand that's the end of it.
Many questions.
So, the spaceship is 3i Atlas?
Yes.
Oh, I see.
I did not know that.
Alright.
I mean, the asteroid is 3IAtlas.
Oh.
We don't actually know what thespaceship is.
When you said 3I Atlas, I wasthinking it was like a New Age
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thought belief or something.
Interesting.
Yeah.
See, I didn't know what hisactual name was.
I just knew it as aseven-mile-long poo.
He said it too, aliens.
So many questions.
Just what is this thing?
Simply a passing rock?
An alien spaceship?
Or maybe, just maybe, the Heraldof the Fifth World.
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Ooh.
Have I been to the Fourth World?
You're in it.
Oh, cool.
Have I been to the First Worldthen?
No.
Oh.
No, humans didn't exist in theFourth World, but we'll get to
that.
Okay.
Which is interesting because...
Anyway.
So, there's been a ton of peoplegiving their two cents on this.
And originally...
I gave five cents.
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You did?
I did.
We were talking about the sevenmile long pool and I feel like
putting five cents on that one.
There you go.
There you go.
Originally, when I had wrotethis, there was one Harvard
scientist that is now everywhereyou look, which is Professor
A.V.
Loeb.
Loeb.
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Personally, I don't know muchabout him, but just from the
videos I had seen randomlythrough Facebook, YouTube,
frigging TikTok, all that stuff,he suggests that it might have
nuclear energy capabilitiessuggesting the possibility of
non-human design.
Come on, just say it.
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Just say it.
It's an alien spaceship.
Come on.
Yeah, it's an alien spaceship.
So, this object emits its ownlight source.
Mostly, if not all objects inspace reflect light from nearby
stars.
However, this one seems to be inneed of headlights.
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I don't actually know why anyship would need headlights.
stuff if a ship is traveling atthe speed of light and then
turns on its headlights thenwhat happens I have always been
curious about that I would thinkthat it's like you always stay
ahead of it let's say you're ina train going 50 miles an hour
you jump up you're stilltraveling at that same spot yes
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because your momentum is movingI think it's the same thing with
the headlights I think it wouldproject out a little bit further
because now the source istraveling at the speed of light
but then also something'sprojecting out at speed light.
So therefore...
But if you're moving on a train,let's say...
I don't know how fast a bulletgoes.
It's on my head.
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How fast a bullet goes?
A bullet.
Oh, fast.
Fast.
So if you are on a train that'smoving that fast, right?
As fast as a bullet.
As fast as a bullet.
Okay.
And let's speed...
That's why it's called a bullettrain.
Let's say a little bit slowerthan a bullet, right?
Okay.
And you fire a bullet Thebullet's going to move at a slow
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speed.
You'll probably see the bulletmoving away from you.
I don't think it'd go fasterthan the train.
I think it would because thesource is traveling at a fixed
rate.
So when you fire something thattravels the size of the speed of
a bullet, it's going to travelthe speed of the bullet from the
source.
If you're moving in a car at 50miles an hour or a train, let's
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say you're on top of a train.
On top of the train?
On top of the train.
Okay, good.
Yeah, exactly.
And you hole up a feather.
Yes.
And you troll the feather.
It's going to go way back therebecause of wind resistance.
UNKNOWN (29:09):
Maybe.
SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
You have to be inside the train.
Science with Phantom Journeypodcast.
No, that'd be physics, wouldn'tit?
Never mind.
Same thing.
If you're inside the train, thenyou wouldn't have as much wind
resistance.
That's true.
But in space, there's no wind.
That's right.
That's why they did anexperiment when they were on the
moon where they dropped afeather and a hammer.
That's right.
at the same time.
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I remember that.
I remember that.
My frigging professor would killme if he didn't remember that
one.
Yeah.
Gravity.
So what were we talking about?
Oh, the headlights.
It's like, how did we get tothis point?
Yeah.
However, I was thinking though,a spaceship would need sensors.
So, and that probably rules outheadlights.
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However, retro rockets slowingit down for an Earth orbit.
There you go.
That's lights in front of theship I mean yeah fair enough but
we're talking about we'retalking about advanced alien
spacecrafts not Elon Musk's wellthey gotta slow down somehow
press the button and they slowdown that's Star Wars that is
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pretty cool in Star Wars how allof a sudden yeah well yeah
that's I think that's the FVLit's still I don't care it is
cool it is cool it's even coolerhow 50 ships gonna show up and
nobody ever parks in the samespot yeah So I do have a bit of
a far-fetched theory.
Okay.
Not that any of our othertheories have been far-fetched.
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But this one's very far and veryfetched.
Okay.
So we're soon to witness a novaof the T-Corone Borealis, a.k.a.
the blaze star.
Really?
I hadn't heard of those.
I know the star Betelgeuse.
Yeah.
Is bound to go supernova at anypoint, and they've seen that one
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that does, and And they'retalking within the next 25
years, I think I heard.
Well, I think this is supposedto happen in the next couple of
months.
Well, they say up to like...
Okay, so maybe it's...
It's soon.
Maybe one of the...
Between either Beetlejuice orthis one.
Or they could be the same thing.
I should know this stuff.
All I know is that whenBeetlejuice goes supernova,
they're saying for about sixmonths, six to eight months...
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It'll be like having a nighttimestar or a nighttime sun.
That's interesting.
It is.
You know how far away that thingis and it's going to light up.
It's going to become the thirdbrightest object in the, in the
night sky behind the moon andthe star series.
Would it be as bright as Venusor brighter?
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Like it's supposed to be like,like Venus is actually brighter.
So it might've been Venus is thethird or the second, the moon.
That's pretty bright though.
I mean, Venus has been has beenI probably talked about talked
about this before but Venus hasbeen misidentified as enemy
fighters coming to oh yeah I gota funny story and I may have
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shared this on the show I thinkit's okay I went into Roswell it
was about four o'clock in themorning yeah and here I am like
I'm gonna go see some aliens I'mgonna go see some aliens and
I've been driving all night andI come around this bend and all
of a sudden there's thisintensely bright light just
shining right at me.
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And I'm like,
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
what the hell is that?
SPEAKER_02 (32:28):
I hadn't even got into Roswell and here they are.
Yeah, they were waiting for you.
I even flashed a flashlight atit to see if it was an aircraft
or something.
And then later I was like, oh,it's Venus.
I'm an idiot.
Now, Venus is bright as hell.
I mean, I think it even filledme sometimes.
Because my street up the roadgoes like really slanted.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
And it kind of just looks like there's something
like frigging the top of thehill like and that was Venus I
think it was either Venus orJupiter or something like that
but yeah now the I've been thisCorona Borealis I've been and
I've been distracting you that'sokay that's okay this is a
binary star that will soonexperience a reoccurring nova
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event the white dwarf companionpulls material that's red dwarf
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
you're
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
thinking oh the white dwarf companion pulls
material from the red giant nextto it that causes a massive
increase in brightness which canbe seen by the naked eye.
The last eruption occurred 80years ago in 1946 and
astronomers are anticipatingthis to be a spectacular event
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to occur sometime soon and Ifspotted, it could be a
once-in-a-lifetime opportunityto see a nova.
That's true, because I don'tthink I'm going to be here for
80 years.
That's true.
We never know.
The difference between a novaand a supernova is that...
One super.
Exactly.
A nova is Latin for new.
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Of course, every 80 years or so,this white dwarf feeds off the
red giant until it lets loose abright flash of light in its new
state.
Nice.
A supernova, which is prettymuch the end of the life cycle
of a star.
That's what's going to happenwith Beetlejuice, yeah.
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This would cause...
I've said it twice.
There you go.
I've said that name twice.
Say it again.
Say it again.
We don't have enough to curse.
Here's John.
That's the wrong way.
I love it.
I knew where you were going.
The end of life which would bethe last breath of a star
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causing a bright flashthroughout the galaxy and then
it's no more my theory does ithave a soul maybe maybe we don't
know actually it probably doesokay what's your theory if you
wanted to witness somethinglet's say the northern lights
that were going to be happeningover LA right and it's something
that you really wanted to seeyou might you might stay at home
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and just look up at the sky butit's not as cool as seeing
something up close maybe youdrive to a clearer sky or go to
Griffith Park Observatory.
What if Earth was the best viewin the galaxy?
Or the Sol system?
This isn't just a passingasteroid.
It's a tourist ship.
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This isn't the only passingasteroid, but there's no one
talking about the others.
There are five others.
But they won't be near theEarth, so I think they're kind
of out of the spotlight.
But are the five others fromoutside the our solar system
because that's the big thingabout this one it's interstellar
from outside the solar system Ithink it's been here before
that's an interesting part it'sjust been so far away it wasn't
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going to be as close as it willbe now if this was a tourist
ship of 90 billion aliens allcoming to see the once in a
lifetime opportunity the earthis their red light district and
the after party is worldwideanal probing laughing That's a
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lot of aliens.
That's a lot of aliens, yeah.
There's only about 8 billionpeople on the planet.
Oh my God.
That's going to be a tear.
You're going to be really sorry.
They'll be on the tear, yeah.
But, you know, we'll get to thatanother time.
I want to talk about one otherthing that involves UAPs.
By now, you've probably seen thevideo from Mexico, right?
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From Mexico.
SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
Which one?
SPEAKER_02 (36:47):
The kind of Star Destroyer looking thing.
There's a 10-second clip ofprobably the most clearest shot
of a ship in what looks likeit's been hit by lightning or
emitting a bright blue light inthe clouds.
Now, I've seen thousands of UAPvideos, and for the most part,
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looking at the video, my brainautomatically wants to say, oh,
that's not real.
What happens if we actuallyrecord an alien spaceship, and
no one believes it becausethere's so many AI-generated
videos and images and stuff likethat.
And not only AI, there's just somany people trying to hoax.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
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I've wondered that too.
I mean, but I've wondered moreabout like when they show clips
like old, like handheld.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting yousay that.
Movies of aliens.
Yeah.
I kind of wonder.
Yeah.
Well, that looks pretty good.
Yeah.
But yeah, you wonder.
So most are easy to say, oh,definitely that's AI.
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But the odd thing about thisThis one, apparently, it has
been tested by AI scanners andcame back absolutely not AI.
Well, that's why AI would tellyou if it wasn't AI.
Now, I want to believe thisthing is a real deal, but I've
got another theory, and I thinkKen just kind of touched on it
there a second ago.
This goes back to a previoustalk process that may or may not
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help my idea.
We had talked about how 80s and90s TV shows had stuntmen who
flew choppers, are low andblind.
I think you saw that movie, TheFall Guys.
Oh, sweet.
I might fall from a tallbuilding.
I might roll over a new car.
So, you know, they do all thatjust for like a two second clip.
But if something was to gowrong, it was potential death
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compared to throwing in someCGI.
So it's a lot easier to sit atyour computer and make AI.
But if you know what you'redoing, at least.
But what about making fakeminiatures?
Right?
It could take a small team of acouple of miniature designers to
put a together videos that AIgenerators would think it was
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real.
And then posting stuff like thatthese days would get millions of
hits, reposts, comments, whichactually pays money these days.
If you're using an actualminiature ship, there's a lot of
technical things that you'd haveto know.
You can make it look really bad,though.
Not really bad, but like...
Or like bad video.
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Yeah.
Because I mean, there's beenreally...
Because that does...
When I was in high school, mybest friend at the time...
and I, we made a movie calledProject Contact.
And we used that as a way tohide some of the defects of some
of the effects we were trying todo is that, oh, there's
interference.
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Yeah, but I mean, to getsomething small to look big is
actually kind of difficultbecause the scale, I can very
quickly notice something whenthe scale is not correct.
So you need to make sureeverything in that image is to
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scale with each other.
Or your mind automatically says,oh, no, no, no.
Absolutely.
And you can't mix the two withCGI or AI because then there's
so many markers in the videothat they can identify that
that's been tweaked.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
I'm not saying that someonethat's very industrious and
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determined couldn't do it yeahbut there is some technical
stuff there that you'd have toreally make sure but you know
then again you could do trialand error you're like yeah this
doesn't look quite right i needi need and then you learn from
you know i was kind of lookright i was kind of thinking
about that when i was writingthis that's what kind of true in
like miniature like experts yeahyou know what i mean like okay
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like people who might not have ajob and just kind of like well
you know i can make money on theinternet from like strange
videos how much if it goes wellhow many people out there are
have 3D printers I mean youcould print something up that
hasn't been seen but you knowwhat I find really amazing is
that I see people on theinternet advertising or not
advertising but showing how they3D printed a 6 foot long
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Starship Enterprise like oh mygod it's one awesome freaking
cool two oh my god the workamount of work and money put
into that because they areexpensive the filament but just
to do Let's say...
And it doesn't have to beminiature miniature.
Yeah.
I mean, it could be large, butit's not like...
Your ship could be, you know, 12inches long.
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Yeah.
And you can still do somethingpretty believable.
Yeah.
But you've got to make sure thatyour lighting is right.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Your painting is right.
Your...
Everything that's around it thatyou...
Because you've got to includeother...
You just can't put a blue sky orsomething behind it.
You have to do something...
Well, I mean, night time ispretty handy, but I guess the
lighting thing was...
But you kind of need to putsomething with it to give it...
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believability I think yeah Iwonder if that's what the
lightning strikes that wasactually pretty impressive and
I'm not saying that it can't bedone in Photoshop or video but
the fact that the light to methe light was blinking off the
back end because they had a lotof white lights in the back end
but the reflection off theclouds I thought was pretty cool
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