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September 9, 2025 50 mins

[319] If you’ve ever sat down for a chat with Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans, founders of and. coaching (@andcoachme), you know you’re in for a bold and disarmingly honest one. High off a year so far defined by intentionality, bravery, and play, Dave and Debbie share:

  • How fear can manifest and be reframed as an invitation to look inward
  • The difference between being uncomfortable and being unsafe
  • How adopting a “be more kid” mindset unlocks creativity, imagination, and joy at work
  • The power of language and modelling care to build cultures rooted in curiosity and kindness

Deeply practical, rich with anecdotes and offering 10 powerful language reframes, this conversation is an essential no-BS starter toolkit for any salon owner or leader looking to reimagine how they show up for themselves, their businesses, their teams, and their clients.

Find out more about and. coaching here: https://www.andcoachme.com/ Listen to Double D Season 6 EP114, "Ripple effects. The quiet power of individual impact."

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