March 12, 2025 • 27 mins
PvP awareness and toxicity toward healers has reached critical levels in World of Warcraft's Solo Shuffle, resulting in a significant healer shortage and declining gameplay quality. Discipline Priests are dominating Season 2 while many DPS players refuse to take responsibility for their own positioning errors and unused defensive cooldowns.
• Healers face constant blame for losses despite DPS making critical positioning errors
• Players over-rely on WeakAuras and addons, losing fundamental game awareness
• DPS players frequently fail to use utility abilities like Tremor Totem or Blessing of Sanctuary
• Toxic behavior toward healers is causing them to abandon Solo Shuffle, increasing queue times
• Season 2 balance changes have made Discipline Priests dominant (60% play rate)
• Solo Shuffle should function as a learning environment for trying new specs
• Class knowledge and positioning awareness separate skilled players from average ones
The healthiest thing for WoW PvP would be for players to stop harassing healers, develop better awareness, use their full toolkit of abilities, and understand positioning requirements in arenas.
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Music do.
Hello and welcome to the Pigand Whistle Tales from Azeroth.
As always here at the Pig andWhistle Inn in Stormwind, I go
through a variety of subjectsWith regards to World of
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Warcraft, so grab a bottle or apint, sit back and enjoy this
midweek episode.
We're going to be going overpvp now.
This might not be everyone'ssort of cup of tea, um, but pvp
in itself, every new seasonbrings about some sort of
challenges and I want to sort ofgo over some of the more pet
peeves of you know season, likeseasoned pvp, what they're doing
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wrong constantly on a basis,stuff like that, um.
But it's going to dip intoeverything from cooldown usage
to solo shuffle, to, uh, threesbracket, to absolutely
everything.
So we're going to start offwith solo shuffle now.
I'm a very big advocate for soloshuffle.
I think that it's very good.
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I think it's amazing that it'sbeen brought into the game.
I think that there is a coupleproblems with it, okay, one
being the fact that there is alack of healers, and we'll get
on to this.
We will get on to this, um.
The second one being thatpeople aren't really the most
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how do we put this?
They're usually dickheads um,in solo shuffle genuinely?
Um, this isn't everyone,obviously this is a select few
people.
But people will look tocomplain in solo shuffle when
something happens and they'llcomplain about anyone.
Usually this is the healersthat get it.
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So I'm practicing my RestoShaman.
The start of the season, seasontwo, has seen a lot of balance
changes.
This has seen Disc Priest havea kind of rework, same with MMs.
You know multiple things.
Disc Priest right now is insane.
It's like a 60 play rate whenit was 40 last season and it's
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just outperforming every othersort of healer essentially in
the game by a quite decentmargin.
Okay, closely.
That's followed by probablyyou're looking at your resto
shaman, your dragons, you knowthat sort of thing.
But I'm practicing my shaman.
Shaman is a class that I wantedto play for well since the
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beginning of last season.
But resto shamans werehorrendous last season, which is
kind of sad because I love theidea of resto shaman.
I've played resto shaman beforeback in B Shadowlands a bit and
stuff like that, and I love thewhole aspect and kind of idea
of a Shaman.
You're putting down your totems, you're very nature orientated,
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kind of like your druids andstuff.
So I wanted to practice myShaman and solo shuffle.
This meant that obviously I'mgoing to be a little bit of a
lower MMR and whenever you tryand learn a new spec, you
obviously are thinking what thehell am I pressing?
What's my big cooldowns?
What's my save?
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This person, oh, shit button.
You know you're thinking all ofthese things and when you go
into solo shuffle, you'rethinking all of these things and
when you go into solo shuffle,uh, you put yourself as a target
as a healer, sadly.
So I'm practicing my shaman.
It's not a bad mmr at the startof the season.
It's not bad for it never beingplayed in solo shuffle, really
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as resto um, I did a few lastseason, but that was kind of it.
So it's not a bad MMR.
But I'm trying to play the gameessentially just normally, uh,
trying to learn the class andtrying to figure out what's what
cooldown, rotation, stuff likethis.
Now, people who've played shamanwill realize resto shaman.
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But a lot of things are veryinfuriating people.
People running out of yourearthen wall totems, stuff like
this.
These are big cooldowns thatpeople don't look at and don't
realize are on the floor whenyou're playing in solo shuffle.
So people will kite out of yourearthen wall totem and you
won't get any value from it andstuff and these sort of things
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for a resto shaman are huge.
Now I go up against discpriests on of things for a resto
shaman are huge.
Okay, now I go up against dispriests.
Okay, on my monk, on my shaman,it's only dis priests that I
see and I've come up against.
So far.
I don't think I've come upagainst any other healer, um in
solo shuffle, which is quiteunfortunate.
Um, but it's, how do I explainthis?
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You're trying to learn a newclass whilst dealing with the
best healing spec in the gameright now, which is disc priest.
Okay, so when you lose like fourrounds and you win two, or you
win one round and you lose five,yes, it can be due to skill.
Some of it probably is, becauseI probably could win some of
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these rounds if I know what I'mpressing.
But I'm still just learning theclass.
I don't care about my soloshuffle rating.
I really, really don't.
I'd learn it.
I learn these classes so that Ican play them in actual threes.
Okay, that's how I view soloshuffle.
I view them as a learningground for new classes,
essentially because I have adecent understanding of most of
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the specializations in the game,but to get better at them you
need to just play and play andplay, and the people that I play
with in threes aren't alwaysavailable, okay, so solo shovel
is the go-to there, but when youget these losses, and when you
lose it's always oh my God, whydidn't you heal me then?
And it's like, bro, I tried,like there was an example of
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like the second game that I everplayed, like in Season 2.
Second ever solo shuffle on myResto, shaman, in Season 2.
I was on Maldraxxus big map.
I was getting constantly CC'd.
Okay, was on maldraxxus big map.
I was getting constantly cc'd.
Okay, constantly cc'd.
Um, because I'm with a meleecleave and it's like a warrior
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and a survival hunter orsomething.
It's um, pretty rough, butessentially this hunter is
harpooning away from me,constantly, going out of the
earth and and stuff, and when Iknow that he needs the like
trinket, uh, spirit link totemthis is a big cooldown to save
him.
I trinket straight into aliteral fear and the thing is
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like he just happened to pressit at the same time because the
hodge was like I don't know acouple seconds already into it.
So I was holding off to seelike whether or not he needed it
and stuff, and I went totrinket link him and I trinketed
, got feared and the fear ranout.
But the thing is I was too faraway to link because no one need
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or someone needed to be withinthat range and our warrior was
on a completely different target.
Okay, so the warrior's on onetarget, the other side, the
hunter's on one, and I'm fearedaway from them, so I can't link.
And what spirit link totem isfor those that don't know is
that it shares your health pool.
So if someone's at one percentand you're at 100, you both go
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to 50.
Yeah, does that make sense?
Um, because it's sharing yourhealth pool with the other
persons and it evens it outconstantly.
So, yeah, that's the problem.
And then the hunter dies.
The hunter dies, by the way,without pressing his wall, his
turtle, his aspect of the turtle, or his feigned death.
Okay, so three big cooldownsthat he has that can save him.
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Feigned death probably doesn'twhen he gets that low, but he
can at least press his wall highbecause it gives him, or his
wall because it will heal him,because when you use your wall
as a hunter, it now doesexhilaration on you as well.
So it does give you a bit of aheal.
Um, turtle is just a bigimmunity.
So you know there's all of that.
And then we, you know, load intoour uh rooms after the next,
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after that round is complete,and I have the audacity of the
warrior saying why didn't youlink him?
And it's like no one's close tohim so I can't link both of you
, you being the warrior and thehunter.
I got feared away.
So I was in CC which, by theway, warriors can break if
they're running a berserserktalent, which he wasn't.
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And then, secondly, you stillhave Rallying Cry, so you can
save him with a Rallying Cry.
And fourthly, fifthly, I don'tknow what I'm on at this point,
I've already forgotten, but hehas Turtle Wall Feign Death.
But he's not the one gettingshit.
I am because I didn't use everysingle cooldown that I had Link
.
He's not the one getting shit.
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I am because I didn't use everysingle cooldown that I had.
Link was the only thing I hadleft.
I'd used my Ascendance, I'dused my Earthen, I'd used my
Totemic Recall to do anotherEarthen, I'd used my Healing
Streams, I used my Healing Tide,I'd used everything.
But it's my fault that he died?
No, no, no, he's chasing offlike a caster or something
that's in Uganda, away from me,which means that I'm putting
myself in CC, and it's not likeI'm avoiding the CC.
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I think I grounded a coupleHodges in that round alone.
I Tremored one fear.
You don't have the cooldownsfor it, though, you really don't
.
And the thing is, you canoutplay Grounding Totem.
You just wait it out, you runover like you're gonna hodge,
the shaman will put downgrounding totem, and then you
just kill it and then you hodgelike it's one of these things,
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so like it's impossible to sortof gauge whether or not you
could have saved him.
I could have, but no one wasnear him to save and that was my
only cooldown left.
But this warrior insists thatit was on me to save him, not
him, not the hunter himself, buton me.
And the thing is I was savinghim the entire round.
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Now it was his turn to presshis defenses, and he doesn't do
it.
I can't control that, I cannot,but I'm the one that gets stick
for it because he died, andthis is a problem.
This is a problem.
This shows the lack of awarenessthat people have in PvP.
This shows that people havebecome desensitized to actually
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looking at what's happening inthe game and looking at their
weak aura.
That goes beep when someonepresses a big offensive cooldown
.
And then they look at theirhealth and it's like, oh,
they're not killing me, so Idon't care.
You know, the differencebetween higher level players and
lower level players playing thesame spec is their awareness
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and their or their knowledge ofwhat is happening.
And I can actually help savethem, because if the warrior
pressed rallying cry, heprobably could have saved him.
I probably could have gottenthere in time to use my spirit
link totem, but he doesn't thinkthat.
He thinks I need this formyself.
And now you've sat on acooldown the entire round that
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you haven't used, but you'reblaming me when you could have
saved him and it's likeridiculous.
Um, another one that shows theawareness of people and it
really is bad, because a lot ofpeople do rely on their weak
auras.
They're fucking I.
They're like what is it add-ons?
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They're going to rely on all ofthese and they're not actually
going to look at their screen.
So this one, for example I havea Retribution Paladin.
I have an Elemental Shaman onmy team.
I am against a Disc Priest, aShadow Priest and a Destro Lock.
It was one of the locks, Ithink it was Destro.
So what do all of these classeshave?
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They all have a fear.
Okay, they have a fear.
They have a silence.
They have one stun in psychichorror, but they all have fear.
What do retribution paladinshave and what do elemental
shamans have?
Okay, they have a tremor totem.
This this isn't on my shaman,by the way, this was on my monk,
so I can tremor this, just sothat you guys know.
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But this is on my mist weavermonk.
Okay, now, mist weaver has beenunderperforming a lot.
But back to the story.
Back to the story um, I have aretribution paladin who has
blessing of sank okay, and Ihave a le shaman who has tremor
okay, tremor totem beingsomething that can get you out
of fears.
Blessing of sank can get youout of fears and silences.
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Um, yeah, this is a 45 secondcooldown and a minute cooldown,
okay.
Now, I played all six rounds.
I got feared probably 20 timesonce I got um, like dispelled of
it via a tremor totem or ablessing a sank.
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It was a blessing a sank thatgot me.
The shaman didn't press tremorat all when he was on my team.
I don't know if he pressed iton the other team, but when he
was on my team he didn't.
So the way the solo shuffleworks, you, you obviously switch
people every single round, soone person will be on the other
team, someone will go on totheir team, etc.
So one round out of six is whenI didn't have either of these.
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I didn't have a tremor totem ora sank, which is fine, but the
other five rounds I think itcame out to about 20 fears in
total, and the thing is we lostbecause of these fears.
These fears were very impactful,but they shouldn't be, because
I have stuff to get out of it.
I have, like people that canget me out of fears, and it's
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ridiculous and they just didn'tpress it.
And again, I don't know ifthat's just lack of awareness,
which I believe it is.
I do believe that people havethe lack of awareness in arenas
because they know, because theyrely on their add-ons so much I
genuinely do they rely on soundboards that go beep, beep, boop,
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boop, like, and it's like whatthe fuck it's like when
primordial wave is pressed orsomething in season one of uh,
the war within.
You heard the primordial wavesound and then it's like, okay,
I need to be careful because theshaman's gonna pump out a shit
ton of damage now and you know,yes, that's good to have, but
you need to pair that with theactual like uh, what is it?
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The awareness of more than apet rock.
Okay, like, people only playsolo shuffle and they complain
when they lose a round, but thenwhen you look them up, they've
never played threes because theycan't play threes.
Threes is a different game tosolo shuffle.
Solo shuffle if you're playingthe right spec and class, you
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will automatically do well inthat bracket.
If you're playing threes, youcan make the worst comp decent
if you're just good players withgood communication and good
awareness.
Okay, in solar shuffle, it's adifferent game.
I I bet that this elementalshaman that I was playing with
was very good last seasonbecause elemental shaman was one
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of the highest like pickedclasses in the game, because
it's simple rotation, its damageoutput was very good.
But this season it got heavilynerfed, I believe, from the
small rework that it's had, andit's just useless.
And the thing is he neverbothered to understand like that
he should be using these tremortotems to get your healers out
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of fears and stuff.
He never understood these sortof things because all he did was
press damage and that won himthe game, because dampening is a
big thing in solo shuffle, buthis awareness is dog shit.
That's the difference andthat's the sad thing.
That's the sad, sad thing thatpeople aren't as good as they
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think they are because they onlyrely on the damage from their
class and it being one of themeta classes at that time.
So people need to get theawareness back into the game of
pvp.
Because it's not there.
People are losing it because ofadd-ons, because they hear beep
, and then it's like, oh shit,massive damage.
Oh, it's not there.
People are losing it because ofadd-ons, because they hear beep
, and then it's like, oh shit,massive damage, oh, it's not on
me, so I don't care, that's thehealer's job.
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And it's like, no, it needs tobe everyone's job.
Still, if the healer gets cc'don the damage, then what if I
get feared and then he presseshis big damage?
But you're an elemental shaman,what are you going to press?
You're going to just letyourself die or you're going to
tremor totem to get your healerout of the cc and then they can
help you.
Yeah, so you've helped them andthen they can help you, kind of
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deal.
But I don't get this.
People don't use their buttonsin arena and the thing is like
blessing a sank is a pvp talent,so he's actively taking a pvp
talent that he's not using inthe game.
So what's the point?
And the thing is retributionpaladins have like five buttons
anyway, less than five buttonsto press anyway.
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So what are you doing?
It's ridiculous.
People need to get theawareness back into pvp and I
think that it's completely gonebecause people do rely on it too
much with add-ons.
They, they really, really do,and it's ridiculous.
I I just don't get it.
Now I want to show or not showyou, but I want to go over this
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forum post because this tiesinto a lot of what I've just
been talking about.
So you want more healers insolo shuffle is the title.
Then stop being total jerks toyour healers, stop.
You want more healers in soloshuffle is the title.
Then stop being total jerks toyour healers.
Stop blaming your losses onhealers for your bad positioning
, lack of impactful CC and poortarget choices.
Yeah, I agree.
I completely agree with thefirst sentence.
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I'm a DPS main?
I don't.
I have probably shit-talked ahealer once in solo shuffle and
I don't like doing it, butsometimes it is.
I mean, I remember the guy thatI shit-talked.
He was actively throwing andthe thing is he didn't even like
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hide it.
He actively said I'm throwinglike after the first round
because he lost the first round.
He's just like I'm not playingwith this guy, I'm throwing and
it's like really, dude, come on,your mentality is like rock
bottom, like bottom.
It's ridiculous.
Um, that's the only sort ofhealer I've, you know, thrown
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some hands with, basicallybecause it's like what the fuck
are you doing?
Get over yourself.
Like just play the game.
Ridiculous.
Um.
But I've had many people die onmy team due to lack of bad
positioning, lack of impactfulcc and or target choices.
I've had people who are oncompletely different targets
before, like in solo shuffle.
Example was that warrior andthe hunter that I described at
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the start of this um podcastlike it's ridiculous.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
All you got to do is dps is saythis target easy, and then you
can use the ping system to pingwho you are killing.
Like it's really there, I amvery aware of who my rogue wants
to kill.
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Let's say, if I'm playing rogueboomy, I'm very aware of who my
rogue wants to kill.
Um, as for cc, some people dojust throw it out, and it's a
bit ridiculous.
Um.
The biggest culprit, though, isbad positioning.
The amount of times I've seenpeople go around a corner, which
means that your healer has togo out from where they are,
where they're comfortablepositioning, and they have to
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put themselves in danger ofgetting cc'd, of getting
switched to, which means thatyour healer has to go out from
where they are, where they'recomfortable positioning, and
they have to put themselves indanger of getting cc'd, of
getting switched to, of gettingyou know multiple things, and
they die because they are arounda corner and your healer can't
get there quick enough.
And then they're like what thefuck?
Why didn't you heal me?
And it's like bro, youliterally can't your line of
sighting.
And it's yeah, it's ridiculous.
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Um, carrying on with this.
Anyway, every match has a dumbdps mouthing off meanwhile.
It was their mistake that costthem the match.
I agree, I think most dpsplayers, uh, are the reason that
a match is lost.
Now I I like I said, I main dps, I main boomy I've probably
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cost my healers theirpositioning, which cost us the
match.
I've also won my healer, likeI've also won rounds because of
my positioning, for that for ourhealer.
Okay, like it can go both ways.
But a lot of people aren't asaccustomed to being positionally
adept, if that makes sense.
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They don't understand what thepositioning of a healer does for
just their team in general.
Okay, and this is because a lotof people don't or aren't the
targets.
If you're looking at an armswarrior or a fury warrior, you
genuinely aren't the target mostof the time when it comes to
being, you know, the one dps tokill or something, so they
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aren't as sort of ready for itor understand the positioning as
much.
Um, because it's like oh, I'mnot the target, I just do my
damage.
I press rallying cry when I'mtold to.
For my other dps, you know I'llintervene every now and again.
But when it comes to them beingthe target, suddenly they have
to run back when they should berunning like, or they have to
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run back instead they're runningin to do more damage and it's
like, oh, this is really bad forus, you need to back the fuck
up and yeah, it's.
It's tough.
It is really really toughbecause some people just don't
know that part of the game andit's ridiculous, and blizzard
needs to start banning peoplefor their toxic whispers too.
It is beyond frustratinggetting whispers from DPS
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spewing toxic and hatefulreplies.
You should never be spewinghateful or toxic messages in a
game.
You just shouldn't Just reportthem and hopefully the Blizzard
system will do its thing.
But yeah, it's shit.
It is very shit and people needto stop doing this in the game.
This is why no one wants toheal in Solar Shuffle.
You can shove all the rewardsyou want at people, but no one
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is going to heal anything withall these toxic jerks.
I agree, I do somewhat agree.
I think that DPS, who haven'tfully grasped what's happened or
how we lost the round, is oneof the most detrimental things
in solo shuffle, because ourhealer could be out of cooldowns
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in a full CC chain and yet itwill still be their fault.
Because it's like oh, why areyou getting CC'd?
And it's like bro, yourpositioning is making me having
to push in to heal you so thatyou aren't dying.
Because I either have a choiceof I leave you to run off into
the like sunset and then you diejust due to damage, or I have
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to chase after you get cc'd andthen you died, but I still get
blamed either way.
And it's like you still have 20cooldowns that you can press,
but you refuse to press them,like higher health.
So you know who's really atfault here?
And it's like, well, you,obviously you were meant to keep
me alive.
And it's like, yeah, whatever,and people do this and it's
fucking ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
I'm sorry, but you cannot beblaming your healers for every
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loss.
Sometimes, yes, healers loseyou the game, okay, but
sometimes you lose yourself thegame due to positioning, due to
the other dps not doing anything, due to you not cc'ing, due to
your bad positioning, due to younot pressing defensive
cooldowns.
There's many different thingsthat can occur in a game that,
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like, make you lose that round,and sometimes it's just the
classes.
Sometimes it genuinely is theclasses.
I was with a dragon, an evokerand a disgrace in the game and
it's double hunter and I thinkit was a warrior or something.
Now this dragon was zero andfive.
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All right, I had the dragon forthe last round.
So I'm like, how do I play witha dragon?
I have to make sure that he'sclose, make sure that me and the
other person are kind ofsomewhat close to each other so
he gets more value out of DreamBreath.
I need to know that he'sconstantly going to want to
rescue me and when he rescues meup the top of Moogambala I need
to make use of that positioningso I need to keep my distance
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while he tops me up, whilst hedeals with our other hunter
that's, you know, taking a bitof damage and we end up winning
the last round.
And that's due to the fact thatI kind of understand what an
evoker wants and what the healerwants.
A lot of the other classes thatwere in that game didn't
understand it because it seemedlike they'd never played healer.
But sometimes it's genuinelybecause of the spec.
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Disc priest is so good rightnow into like everything, so you
have to play exceptionally wellto beat a disc priest at the
moment as another healer and Iknow that.
So I need to up my game as wellwhen I'm on the evokers team
and sort of understand when tobe pressing my defensives, when
to I can burst and stuff likethat.
So it's so many factors in asolo shuffle that can hinder or
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improve your chance of winning.
But everyone needs to stopslandering healers genuinely and
that's coming from a dps mainthat genuinely is something that
can't happen.
You need to stop slanderingpeople in solo shuffle in
general, but because the healersthe odd one out on the team,
it's like, oh, there's two dps,one healer.
Yeah, it's healers fault.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.
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And it's like that's just notthe case.
Is it like you're the re?
And then what you'll do is thatyou make this healer stop
playing solo shuffle and thenyou'll be sat there in a queue
and be like, oh my God, why isno one queuing Solo Shuffle Dead
game?
And it's like, well, becauseyou're making healers quit,
because you're the dumbass who'slike chatting shit about
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healers, and it's like, just getover yourself.
You aren't anything special.
In fact, you're probably noteven normal.
You're the dickheads who arebeing dickheads and causing
people to quit the game, andit's it's ridiculous.
People just don't understand it.
They really don't.
But look, that's my rant overfor this week.
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Music do.
Hello and welcome to the Pigand Whistle Tales from Azeroth.
As always here at the Pig andWhistle Inn in Stormwind, I go
through a variety of subjectsWith regards to World of
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Warcraft, so grab a bottle or apint, sit back and enjoy this
midweek episode.
We're going to be going overpvp now.
This might not be everyone'ssort of cup of tea, um, but pvp
in itself, every new seasonbrings about some sort of
challenges and I want to sort ofgo over some of the more pet
peeves of you know season, likeseasoned pvp, what they're doing
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wrong constantly on a basis,stuff like that, um.
But it's going to dip intoeverything from cooldown usage
to solo shuffle, to, uh, threesbracket, to absolutely
everything.
So we're going to start offwith solo shuffle now.
I'm a very big advocate for soloshuffle.
I think that it's very good.
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I think it's amazing that it'sbeen brought into the game.
I think that there is a coupleproblems with it, okay, one
being the fact that there is alack of healers, and we'll get
on to this.
We will get on to this, um.
The second one being thatpeople aren't really the most
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how do we put this?
They're usually dickheads um,in solo shuffle genuinely?
Um, this isn't everyone,obviously this is a select few
people.
But people will look tocomplain in solo shuffle when
something happens and they'llcomplain about anyone.
Usually this is the healersthat get it.
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So I'm practicing my RestoShaman.
The start of the season, seasontwo, has seen a lot of balance
changes.
This has seen Disc Priest havea kind of rework, same with MMs.
You know multiple things.
Disc Priest right now is insane.
It's like a 60 play rate whenit was 40 last season and it's
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just outperforming every othersort of healer essentially in
the game by a quite decentmargin.
Okay, closely.
That's followed by probablyyou're looking at your resto
shaman, your dragons, you knowthat sort of thing.
But I'm practicing my shaman.
Shaman is a class that I wantedto play for well since the
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beginning of last season.
But resto shamans werehorrendous last season, which is
kind of sad because I love theidea of resto shaman.
I've played resto shaman beforeback in B Shadowlands a bit and
stuff like that, and I love thewhole aspect and kind of idea
of a Shaman.
You're putting down your totems, you're very nature orientated,
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kind of like your druids andstuff.
So I wanted to practice myShaman and solo shuffle.
This meant that obviously I'mgoing to be a little bit of a
lower MMR and whenever you tryand learn a new spec, you
obviously are thinking what thehell am I pressing?
What's my big cooldowns?
What's my save?
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This person, oh, shit button.
You know you're thinking all ofthese things and when you go
into solo shuffle, you'rethinking all of these things and
when you go into solo shuffle,uh, you put yourself as a target
as a healer, sadly.
So I'm practicing my shaman.
It's not a bad mmr at the startof the season.
It's not bad for it never beingplayed in solo shuffle, really
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as resto um, I did a few lastseason, but that was kind of it.
So it's not a bad MMR.
But I'm trying to play the gameessentially just normally, uh,
trying to learn the class andtrying to figure out what's what
cooldown, rotation, stuff likethis.
Now, people who've played shamanwill realize resto shaman.
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But a lot of things are veryinfuriating people.
People running out of yourearthen wall totems, stuff like
this.
These are big cooldowns thatpeople don't look at and don't
realize are on the floor whenyou're playing in solo shuffle.
So people will kite out of yourearthen wall totem and you
won't get any value from it andstuff and these sort of things
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for a resto shaman are huge.
Now I go up against discpriests on of things for a resto
shaman are huge.
Okay, now I go up against dispriests.
Okay, on my monk, on my shaman,it's only dis priests that I
see and I've come up against.
So far.
I don't think I've come upagainst any other healer, um in
solo shuffle, which is quiteunfortunate.
Um, but it's, how do I explainthis?
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You're trying to learn a newclass whilst dealing with the
best healing spec in the gameright now, which is disc priest.
Okay, so when you lose like fourrounds and you win two, or you
win one round and you lose five,yes, it can be due to skill.
Some of it probably is, becauseI probably could win some of
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these rounds if I know what I'mpressing.
But I'm still just learning theclass.
I don't care about my soloshuffle rating.
I really, really don't.
I'd learn it.
I learn these classes so that Ican play them in actual threes.
Okay, that's how I view soloshuffle.
I view them as a learningground for new classes,
essentially because I have adecent understanding of most of
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the specializations in the game,but to get better at them you
need to just play and play andplay, and the people that I play
with in threes aren't alwaysavailable, okay, so solo shovel
is the go-to there, but when youget these losses, and when you
lose it's always oh my God, whydidn't you heal me then?
And it's like, bro, I tried,like there was an example of
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like the second game that I everplayed, like in Season 2.
Second ever solo shuffle on myResto, shaman, in Season 2.
I was on Maldraxxus big map.
I was getting constantly CC'd.
Okay, was on maldraxxus big map.
I was getting constantly cc'd.
Okay, constantly cc'd.
Um, because I'm with a meleecleave and it's like a warrior
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and a survival hunter orsomething.
It's um, pretty rough, butessentially this hunter is
harpooning away from me,constantly, going out of the
earth and and stuff, and when Iknow that he needs the like
trinket, uh, spirit link totemthis is a big cooldown to save
him.
I trinket straight into aliteral fear and the thing is
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like he just happened to pressit at the same time because the
hodge was like I don't know acouple seconds already into it.
So I was holding off to seelike whether or not he needed it
and stuff, and I went totrinket link him and I trinketed
, got feared and the fear ranout.
But the thing is I was too faraway to link because no one need
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or someone needed to be withinthat range and our warrior was
on a completely different target.
Okay, so the warrior's on onetarget, the other side, the
hunter's on one, and I'm fearedaway from them, so I can't link.
And what spirit link totem isfor those that don't know is
that it shares your health pool.
So if someone's at one percentand you're at 100, you both go
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to 50.
Yeah, does that make sense?
Um, because it's sharing yourhealth pool with the other
persons and it evens it outconstantly.
So, yeah, that's the problem.
And then the hunter dies.
The hunter dies, by the way,without pressing his wall, his
turtle, his aspect of the turtle, or his feigned death.
Okay, so three big cooldownsthat he has that can save him.
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Feigned death probably doesn'twhen he gets that low, but he
can at least press his wall highbecause it gives him, or his
wall because it will heal him,because when you use your wall
as a hunter, it now doesexhilaration on you as well.
So it does give you a bit of aheal.
Um, turtle is just a bigimmunity.
So you know there's all of that.
And then we, you know, load intoour uh rooms after the next,
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after that round is complete,and I have the audacity of the
warrior saying why didn't youlink him?
And it's like no one's close tohim so I can't link both of you
, you being the warrior and thehunter.
I got feared away.
So I was in CC which, by theway, warriors can break if
they're running a berserserktalent, which he wasn't.
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And then, secondly, you stillhave Rallying Cry, so you can
save him with a Rallying Cry.
And fourthly, fifthly, I don'tknow what I'm on at this point,
I've already forgotten, but hehas Turtle Wall Feign Death.
But he's not the one gettingshit.
I am because I didn't use everysingle cooldown that I had Link
.
He's not the one getting shit.
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I am because I didn't use everysingle cooldown that I had.
Link was the only thing I hadleft.
I'd used my Ascendance, I'dused my Earthen, I'd used my
Totemic Recall to do anotherEarthen, I'd used my Healing
Streams, I used my Healing Tide,I'd used everything.
But it's my fault that he died?
No, no, no, he's chasing offlike a caster or something
that's in Uganda, away from me,which means that I'm putting
myself in CC, and it's not likeI'm avoiding the CC.
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I think I grounded a coupleHodges in that round alone.
I Tremored one fear.
You don't have the cooldownsfor it, though, you really don't
.
And the thing is, you canoutplay Grounding Totem.
You just wait it out, you runover like you're gonna hodge,
the shaman will put downgrounding totem, and then you
just kill it and then you hodgelike it's one of these things,
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so like it's impossible to sortof gauge whether or not you
could have saved him.
I could have, but no one wasnear him to save and that was my
only cooldown left.
But this warrior insists thatit was on me to save him, not
him, not the hunter himself, buton me.
And the thing is I was savinghim the entire round.
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Now it was his turn to presshis defenses, and he doesn't do
it.
I can't control that, I cannot,but I'm the one that gets stick
for it because he died, andthis is a problem.
This is a problem.
This shows the lack of awarenessthat people have in PvP.
This shows that people havebecome desensitized to actually
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looking at what's happening inthe game and looking at their
weak aura.
That goes beep when someonepresses a big offensive cooldown
.
And then they look at theirhealth and it's like, oh,
they're not killing me, so Idon't care.
You know, the differencebetween higher level players and
lower level players playing thesame spec is their awareness
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and their or their knowledge ofwhat is happening.
And I can actually help savethem, because if the warrior
pressed rallying cry, heprobably could have saved him.
I probably could have gottenthere in time to use my spirit
link totem, but he doesn't thinkthat.
He thinks I need this formyself.
And now you've sat on acooldown the entire round that
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you haven't used, but you'reblaming me when you could have
saved him and it's likeridiculous.
Um, another one that shows theawareness of people and it
really is bad, because a lot ofpeople do rely on their weak
auras.
They're fucking I.
They're like what is it add-ons?
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They're going to rely on all ofthese and they're not actually
going to look at their screen.
So this one, for example I havea Retribution Paladin.
I have an Elemental Shaman onmy team.
I am against a Disc Priest, aShadow Priest and a Destro Lock.
It was one of the locks, Ithink it was Destro.
So what do all of these classeshave?
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They all have a fear.
Okay, they have a fear.
They have a silence.
They have one stun in psychichorror, but they all have fear.
What do retribution paladinshave and what do elemental
shamans have?
Okay, they have a tremor totem.
This this isn't on my shaman,by the way, this was on my monk,
so I can tremor this, just sothat you guys know.
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But this is on my mist weavermonk.
Okay, now, mist weaver has beenunderperforming a lot.
But back to the story.
Back to the story um, I have aretribution paladin who has
blessing of sank okay, and Ihave a le shaman who has tremor
okay, tremor totem beingsomething that can get you out
of fears.
Blessing of sank can get youout of fears and silences.
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Um, yeah, this is a 45 secondcooldown and a minute cooldown,
okay.
Now, I played all six rounds.
I got feared probably 20 timesonce I got um, like dispelled of
it via a tremor totem or ablessing a sank.
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It was a blessing a sank thatgot me.
The shaman didn't press tremorat all when he was on my team.
I don't know if he pressed iton the other team, but when he
was on my team he didn't.
So the way the solo shuffleworks, you, you obviously switch
people every single round, soone person will be on the other
team, someone will go on totheir team, etc.
So one round out of six is whenI didn't have either of these.
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I didn't have a tremor totem ora sank, which is fine, but the
other five rounds I think itcame out to about 20 fears in
total, and the thing is we lostbecause of these fears.
These fears were very impactful,but they shouldn't be, because
I have stuff to get out of it.
I have, like people that canget me out of fears, and it's
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ridiculous and they just didn'tpress it.
And again, I don't know ifthat's just lack of awareness,
which I believe it is.
I do believe that people havethe lack of awareness in arenas
because they know, because theyrely on their add-ons so much I
genuinely do they rely on soundboards that go beep, beep, boop,
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boop, like, and it's like whatthe fuck it's like when
primordial wave is pressed orsomething in season one of uh,
the war within.
You heard the primordial wavesound and then it's like, okay,
I need to be careful because theshaman's gonna pump out a shit
ton of damage now and you know,yes, that's good to have, but
you need to pair that with theactual like uh, what is it?
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The awareness of more than apet rock.
Okay, like, people only playsolo shuffle and they complain
when they lose a round, but thenwhen you look them up, they've
never played threes because theycan't play threes.
Threes is a different game tosolo shuffle.
Solo shuffle if you're playingthe right spec and class, you
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will automatically do well inthat bracket.
If you're playing threes, youcan make the worst comp decent
if you're just good players withgood communication and good
awareness.
Okay, in solar shuffle, it's adifferent game.
I I bet that this elementalshaman that I was playing with
was very good last seasonbecause elemental shaman was one
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of the highest like pickedclasses in the game, because
it's simple rotation, its damageoutput was very good.
But this season it got heavilynerfed, I believe, from the
small rework that it's had, andit's just useless.
And the thing is he neverbothered to understand like that
he should be using these tremortotems to get your healers out
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of fears and stuff.
He never understood these sortof things because all he did was
press damage and that won himthe game, because dampening is a
big thing in solo shuffle, buthis awareness is dog shit.
That's the difference andthat's the sad thing.
That's the sad, sad thing thatpeople aren't as good as they
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think they are because they onlyrely on the damage from their
class and it being one of themeta classes at that time.
So people need to get theawareness back into the game of
pvp.
Because it's not there.
People are losing it because ofadd-ons, because they hear beep
, and then it's like, oh shit,massive damage.
Oh, it's not there.
People are losing it because ofadd-ons, because they hear beep
, and then it's like, oh shit,massive damage, oh, it's not on
me, so I don't care, that's thehealer's job.
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And it's like, no, it needs tobe everyone's job.
Still, if the healer gets cc'don the damage, then what if I
get feared and then he presseshis big damage?
But you're an elemental shaman,what are you going to press?
You're going to just letyourself die or you're going to
tremor totem to get your healerout of the cc and then they can
help you.
Yeah, so you've helped them andthen they can help you, kind of
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deal.
But I don't get this.
People don't use their buttonsin arena and the thing is like
blessing a sank is a pvp talent,so he's actively taking a pvp
talent that he's not using inthe game.
So what's the point?
And the thing is retributionpaladins have like five buttons
anyway, less than five buttonsto press anyway.
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So what are you doing?
It's ridiculous.
People need to get theawareness back into pvp and I
think that it's completely gonebecause people do rely on it too
much with add-ons.
They, they really, really do,and it's ridiculous.
I I just don't get it.
Now I want to show or not showyou, but I want to go over this
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forum post because this tiesinto a lot of what I've just
been talking about.
So you want more healers insolo shuffle is the title.
Then stop being total jerks toyour healers, stop.
You want more healers in soloshuffle is the title.
Then stop being total jerks toyour healers.
Stop blaming your losses onhealers for your bad positioning
, lack of impactful CC and poortarget choices.
Yeah, I agree.
I completely agree with thefirst sentence.
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I'm a DPS main?
I don't.
I have probably shit-talked ahealer once in solo shuffle and
I don't like doing it, butsometimes it is.
I mean, I remember the guy thatI shit-talked.
He was actively throwing andthe thing is he didn't even like
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hide it.
He actively said I'm throwinglike after the first round
because he lost the first round.
He's just like I'm not playingwith this guy, I'm throwing and
it's like really, dude, come on,your mentality is like rock
bottom, like bottom.
It's ridiculous.
Um, that's the only sort ofhealer I've, you know, thrown
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some hands with, basicallybecause it's like what the fuck
are you doing?
Get over yourself.
Like just play the game.
Ridiculous.
Um.
But I've had many people die onmy team due to lack of bad
positioning, lack of impactfulcc and or target choices.
I've had people who are oncompletely different targets
before, like in solo shuffle.
Example was that warrior andthe hunter that I described at
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the start of this um podcastlike it's ridiculous.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
All you got to do is dps is saythis target easy, and then you
can use the ping system to pingwho you are killing.
Like it's really there, I amvery aware of who my rogue wants
to kill.
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Let's say, if I'm playing rogueboomy, I'm very aware of who my
rogue wants to kill.
Um, as for cc, some people dojust throw it out, and it's a
bit ridiculous.
Um.
The biggest culprit, though, isbad positioning.
The amount of times I've seenpeople go around a corner, which
means that your healer has togo out from where they are,
where they're comfortablepositioning, and they have to
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put themselves in danger ofgetting cc'd, of getting
switched to, which means thatyour healer has to go out from
where they are, where they'recomfortable positioning, and
they have to put themselves indanger of getting cc'd, of
getting switched to, of gettingyou know multiple things, and
they die because they are arounda corner and your healer can't
get there quick enough.
And then they're like what thefuck?
Why didn't you heal me?
And it's like bro, youliterally can't your line of
sighting.
And it's yeah, it's ridiculous.
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Um, carrying on with this.
Anyway, every match has a dumbdps mouthing off meanwhile.
It was their mistake that costthem the match.
I agree, I think most dpsplayers, uh, are the reason that
a match is lost.
Now I I like I said, I main dps, I main boomy I've probably
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cost my healers theirpositioning, which cost us the
match.
I've also won my healer, likeI've also won rounds because of
my positioning, for that for ourhealer.
Okay, like it can go both ways.
But a lot of people aren't asaccustomed to being positionally
adept, if that makes sense.
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They don't understand what thepositioning of a healer does for
just their team in general.
Okay, and this is because a lotof people don't or aren't the
targets.
If you're looking at an armswarrior or a fury warrior, you
genuinely aren't the target mostof the time when it comes to
being, you know, the one dps tokill or something, so they
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aren't as sort of ready for itor understand the positioning as
much.
Um, because it's like oh, I'mnot the target, I just do my
damage.
I press rallying cry when I'mtold to.
For my other dps, you know I'llintervene every now and again.
But when it comes to them beingthe target, suddenly they have
to run back when they should berunning like, or they have to
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run back instead they're runningin to do more damage and it's
like, oh, this is really bad forus, you need to back the fuck
up and yeah, it's.
It's tough.
It is really really toughbecause some people just don't
know that part of the game andit's ridiculous, and blizzard
needs to start banning peoplefor their toxic whispers too.
It is beyond frustratinggetting whispers from DPS
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spewing toxic and hatefulreplies.
You should never be spewinghateful or toxic messages in a
game.
You just shouldn't Just reportthem and hopefully the Blizzard
system will do its thing.
But yeah, it's shit.
It is very shit and people needto stop doing this in the game.
This is why no one wants toheal in Solar Shuffle.
You can shove all the rewardsyou want at people, but no one
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is going to heal anything withall these toxic jerks.
I agree, I do somewhat agree.
I think that DPS, who haven'tfully grasped what's happened or
how we lost the round, is oneof the most detrimental things
in solo shuffle, because ourhealer could be out of cooldowns
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in a full CC chain and yet itwill still be their fault.
Because it's like oh, why areyou getting CC'd?
And it's like bro, yourpositioning is making me having
to push in to heal you so thatyou aren't dying.
Because I either have a choiceof I leave you to run off into
the like sunset and then you diejust due to damage, or I have
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to chase after you get cc'd andthen you died, but I still get
blamed either way.
And it's like you still have 20cooldowns that you can press,
but you refuse to press them,like higher health.
So you know who's really atfault here?
And it's like, well, you,obviously you were meant to keep
me alive.
And it's like, yeah, whatever,and people do this and it's
fucking ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
I'm sorry, but you cannot beblaming your healers for every
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loss.
Sometimes, yes, healers loseyou the game, okay, but
sometimes you lose yourself thegame due to positioning, due to
the other dps not doing anything, due to you not cc'ing, due to
your bad positioning, due to younot pressing defensive
cooldowns.
There's many different thingsthat can occur in a game that,
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like, make you lose that round,and sometimes it's just the
classes.
Sometimes it genuinely is theclasses.
I was with a dragon, an evokerand a disgrace in the game and
it's double hunter and I thinkit was a warrior or something.
Now this dragon was zero andfive.
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All right, I had the dragon forthe last round.
So I'm like, how do I play witha dragon?
I have to make sure that he'sclose, make sure that me and the
other person are kind ofsomewhat close to each other so
he gets more value out of DreamBreath.
I need to know that he'sconstantly going to want to
rescue me and when he rescues meup the top of Moogambala I need
to make use of that positioningso I need to keep my distance
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while he tops me up, whilst hedeals with our other hunter
that's, you know, taking a bitof damage and we end up winning
the last round.
And that's due to the fact thatI kind of understand what an
evoker wants and what the healerwants.
A lot of the other classes thatwere in that game didn't
understand it because it seemedlike they'd never played healer.
But sometimes it's genuinelybecause of the spec.
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Disc priest is so good rightnow into like everything, so you
have to play exceptionally wellto beat a disc priest at the
moment as another healer and Iknow that.
So I need to up my game as wellwhen I'm on the evokers team
and sort of understand when tobe pressing my defensives, when
to I can burst and stuff likethat.
So it's so many factors in asolo shuffle that can hinder or
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improve your chance of winning.
But everyone needs to stopslandering healers genuinely and
that's coming from a dps mainthat genuinely is something that
can't happen.
You need to stop slanderingpeople in solo shuffle in
general, but because the healersthe odd one out on the team,
it's like, oh, there's two dps,one healer.
Yeah, it's healers fault.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.
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And it's like that's just notthe case.
Is it like you're the re?
And then what you'll do is thatyou make this healer stop
playing solo shuffle and thenyou'll be sat there in a queue
and be like, oh my God, why isno one queuing Solo Shuffle Dead
game?
And it's like, well, becauseyou're making healers quit,
because you're the dumbass who'slike chatting shit about
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healers, and it's like, just getover yourself.
You aren't anything special.
In fact, you're probably noteven normal.
You're the dickheads who arebeing dickheads and causing
people to quit the game, andit's it's ridiculous.
People just don't understand it.
They really don't.
But look, that's my rant overfor this week.
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Thank you all very much forlistening.
Do check out all of the socialsdown below.
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things happening.
I'm looking to put up a coupleof dnd products this week, so
keep an eye eye out for that.
Um, but yeah, thank you allvery much once again and go with
valor friend, goodbye, thankyou.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.