May 9, 2025 • 23 mins
The Pig and Whistle Tales from Azeroth podcast explores personal favorites in World of Warcraft, from beloved zones to iconic characters, while sharing weekly game updates and nostalgic memories.
• Weekly news update includes world bosses Orta and The Godfather in Azka'het
• Undermined Delves bonus event offers more loot this week
• Deepwing Dunk brawl transforms Deepwing Gorge into a basketball match
• Teldrassil stands as favorite zone due to its music, ambience, and personal connection
• Starting zones perfectly capture each race's identity and culture
• The infamous "Wetlands Run" between starting zones created lasting memories
• Arthas represents the perfect villain with his complete character arc
• Icecrown Citadel's progressive storytelling made for an immersive raid experience
• The Shadowmourne questline provided emotional closure for characters impacted by the Lich King
• Classic and Retail WoW offer distinctly different leveling experiences
• Upcoming Lorewalker Cho content promises to enhance the leveling experience with meaningful lore
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Thank you, hello and welcome to the Pig and Whistle
Tales from Azeroth.
As always here at the Pig andWhistle Inn in Stormwind, I go
for a variety of subjects withregards to World of Warcraft.
I grab a bottle or a pint, sitback and enjoy this episode.
(01:06):
We're going to be going over afew things that I've been asked
personally.
We're going to be going throughthe questions of what I think
the best zone is in WoW, bestcharacter, etc.
Etc.
Many questions that have beenasked by you guys and I'm going
to be giving my answers to themAgain.
This is going to be veryopinionated, um, I hope that you
guys can sort of tune in aswell and give your opinions on
(01:28):
it.
Also, as always, we start offwith the weekly news.
We have orta and the godfatheras your world bosses for the
week.
They are located within ashkhetand the undermined delves are
your bonus event.
This means that you just getsimply more loot from your
delves.
This means that you can getmore gear, more gold, more
(01:49):
anything really, more curios toupgrade, brand etc.
Etc.
And finally, deepwing Dunk isyour brawl for this week.
This is essentially a deepwinggorge, but turned into a
basketball match.
So three orbs you grab one ofthe orbs and you have to take it
to the opposition's base andeither throw it into their hoop
(02:11):
or you dunk it, and dunkinggives you more points, but
essentially, first one to get toa certain amount of points wins
.
Very, very simple, quite a goodlittle game mode, and I think
it should be, personally, one ofthe main staple points of a
battleground.
I think that it should just bea battleground in general, to be
honest with you.
So I'm going to start off withthe first question and I do want
(02:33):
to say this first.
I do apologize if it's a bitslower in terms of me answering,
not feeling 100% today.
So, as you can tell, I'm takinga few pauses every now and
again, so I do apologize forthat.
But the first question that Ihave is something very simple
and this is going to be verysubjective, but best zone in WoW
(02:56):
?
Now, if you're talking abouteverything, every World of
Warcraft expansion, everythingthat's ever come out, every zone
, from uh classic starting zoneslike northshire or elwyn forest
all the way up to sort of uhashkahet, undermine everything
(03:21):
in between.
I am going to go Teldrassil.
Now people think, yes,teldrassil is a nice zone and
the reason I'm pickingTeldrassil is because I have the
very first memories of playingWoW there and I just love the
whole night elf stuff.
Obviously, there's a lot ofnight elf architecture and stuff
(03:43):
.
You have Darkshore, ashenvale,you, you have valshara, you have
multiple different zones thathave night elf architecture and,
let's face it, all of the zonesin well, potentially could be a
favorite zone for someone, okay, apart from sylathus, who loves
sylathus?
Um, but yes, I am going to gowith Teldrassil.
(04:05):
The reason being is because Iremember making my very first
night elf and this was my veryfirst character, the character
that I play to to this day, andI remember just seeing
lightsabers.
I remember seeing these cats, Iremember seeing these boars and
I remember seeing a big tree ona.
What I didn't know at the timewas a massive tree, because,
(04:28):
tell yourself, it was just agiant world tree.
You are questing on top of atree.
If, for those that didn't knowthat now, I think that, tell
yourself, was really good, justbecause of the music, the
ambience.
I love the whole feeling ofNight Elf zones Again, ashen,
veil, valshara come to mind, allof these different Night Elf
(04:49):
zones.
I just love the whole, almostethereal part of it.
I think that it's so cool.
I think that it's somethingthat is very simply done with
how they've portrayed Night Elelves and how their starting
zone is and you know what'shappening and all of this stuff.
(05:10):
Now I I any of the likestarting zones I could go to
genuinely well.
I say that I'm looking more atthe human starting zone, which
is northshire or elwyn forest asa whole, and I'm looking at
teldrass zone, which isNorthshire or Elwynn Forest as a
whole, and I'm looking atTeldrassil as the two main ones,
elwynn Forest being so iconicbecause you have the two mines.
(05:31):
You have Eastvale Logging Camp.
You have very important NPCsthere that people know, like
Hogger.
You have Princess, which is theboar in the farm in the bottom
right Now.
It's such a very well balancedzone all of these starting zones
.
In my honest opinion, thestarting zones are very, very
well balanced.
(05:52):
Now I can't say the same forthe horde.
I don't really know too muchabout the horde starting zones,
but I do have an understandingof them.
And you go from dirt into moredirt zones which isn't great
because it's duritar into thebarrens now saying that actually
(06:12):
undeads have a really goodstarting zone.
I love the whole sort of feelof not undead.
Why do I call them undead,forsaken?
They have such a very goodstarting zone as well as a zone
that leads off into that withSilverpine Forest, with the
whole Worgen and the Arathelstoryline in Classic.
So there possibly is a case forthe Forsaken Blood Elves as
(06:39):
well.
They're very, very good when itcomes to starting zones, but
it's not any of the actual zoneslate on in the game that I
enjoy.
It's the early ones because itfeels so refreshing to make that
character and start thatjourney.
It really does.
Back in Classic I made a humanmage.
Big mistake, should have wentgnome, 100%.
(07:01):
No, I should have went gnome,but I made a human mage and a
person who I was leveling withat the time wanted a druid, so
obviously they could only benight elf.
One of us had to make the trek,the menethil harbor run or the
wetlands run from uh teldrassilor from elwyn forest all the way
(07:23):
to the opposite faction, andthis is a very long trek.
So we'll start it fromstormwind, the human zone or
city.
You get the tram to ironforge.
From ironforge you run all theway to the east of dunmarrow
into loch madan.
You run up through loch madan.
So you run north and then yourun all the way through the
(07:44):
wetlands until you get tomenethil harbour.
Then you get to menethilharbour, take the boat over to
dark shore, which is, you know,not this you've done most of the
journey by that point.
But then from dark shore youget the boat over to ruth theron
village, which takes you totell your seal, the big tree.
Then you obviously run fromdarnassusus or Rutharen Village
(08:06):
to Shadow Glen.
So it's one hell of a run and Ichose to go to Teldrassil
because I enjoy it a lot morealthough it should have been.
They come to me because there'sactually a druid trainer.
I was stuck with rank one,fireball for like 10 levels.
So, yeah, I couldn't train forlike 10 levels, which was kind
(08:28):
of crazy, but it was really,really fun and I think that it's
something that you need toexperience.
Uh, when it comes to thestarting zones, if you just make
a new character and literallyturn up the music, turn up the
ambience, like sound, honestlytell yourself will not
(08:48):
disappoint, especially when youget out of, uh, the very
starting bit, shadow glenn, whenyou get out of that and get to
dolinar, the little like town.
That's in between darnassus andshadow glenn, that's when the
music really kicks in and it'sjust so amazing.
But again, there's manydifferent things, but I have to
go with one of the startingzones because they are portrayed
(09:10):
so perfectly for each race thatstarts there.
It's, it's amazing, all the wayfrom blood elves, forsaken
night elves, humans.
I even like the gnome startingzone, uh, gnome and dwarf, but
again, not as much as the others.
That one's going to be verysituational.
You obviously have all control,which are the same and again
(09:33):
it's very situational.
I get that people might likethat idea more, um, of the
ruggedness, almost, rather thanthe ethereal, you know, sort of
night elf stuff.
But you know it's personalpreference and I think that
they've done so well indepicting the starting zones
that it's got to be one of them,in my honest opinion.
(09:53):
Um, the next question is bestcharacter in wow or favorite
character?
There's loads, there isabsolutely loads, and it's
really really tough to actuallypick out one character.
But I am going to go with and Idon't think this is a
(10:14):
controversial one, I think thatthis is a very obvious one for a
lot of people.
I'm gonna go with Arthas.
I think that I know that's theboring answer, but the way that
they've depicted its story allthroughout warcraft into
warcraft, like warcraft intoworld of warcraft I think it was
done flawlessly.
I think that they set up somuch of it in warcraft that
(10:39):
bringing him back for like anexpansion in world of warcraft
is perfect.
He's a perfect villain to havean end boss for, even though he
wasn't technically the end bossof Wrath of the Lich King, it
was Ruby Sanctum.
But the way that it builds upto this pinnacle of you have to
(11:00):
kill the Lich King and the LichKing is Arthas.
He is someone who hasterrorized and gone through so
much pain and all of this stuffis someone who has terrorized
and gone through so much painand all of this stuff like that.
It's so amazing to kill himessentially as an end boss.
I remember one of my firstmemories of wow is killing uh
(11:20):
arthas, like in a 25 man pug,and it was great fun.
I found it absolutely amazingto do so.
So, icecrown, citadel, or goingthroughout the storyline you
obviously have arriving inNorthrend and then you slowly
work your way up, you get toIcecrown and when you're in
Icecrown they did something thatthey've never done before and
(11:42):
it's a progressive story, it's aphased story almost.
So.
You start off in the bottomright of ice crown with just
this little outpost.
As you're progressing you get asecond outpost, a third one,
and then it all ends with, likeyou basically ready to storm the
citadel, the ice crown citadel,and break the gates down and
(12:04):
push in, and then when you pushin and go into that raid, you
are met with, directly in frontof you, the first boss.
But the first boss is very faraway, just down a couple
corridors basically, and you'veset out a perimeter.
You've got all of the class, um, like sort of not trainers but
vendors there for your tier sets, so paladins, all of that.
(12:27):
You have darian mograine there.
You have the leader of yourfaction there.
Um, you have obviously did Isay no tyrian mograine, leader
of your faction.
You have all of these differentpeople and you have kind of a
stepping stone into icc, icecrown, cit, and it feels grand
(12:50):
and that's the best part, that'swhat makes it amazing.
The raid feels grand when youenter it and throughout the
entire thing you're constantlygetting like RP prompts.
Okay, so as soon as you walkpast a certain point at the
start of Icecrown, you getArth's talking to you and it's a
(13:11):
very long rp thing.
You don't have to listen to it,you can just carry on clearing
trash, but he is talking to youand it's really really cool
because it's showing how much ofa villain he actually is.
And then you go and do theshadow morn quest line, the
legendary quest line, and at theend of it you are getting
(13:33):
something that you know apartfrom a legendary, which is
really cool.
You loot arthas, uh, at the endof this quest line, and you get
a box.
This this box contains, I think, several items.
There is one for Mograine,which is a basically an echo of
(13:54):
his father, and it's sayingthere's a lot of RP in all of
these, but it says that you know, thank you for freeing him and
stuff, and he gets to talk tohis son and all of this.
It's a really really like cool.
You one for sylvanas, whoreflects on how she was killed
by arthas and then raised as abanshee by him, and stuff like
this.
(14:14):
You get one for muradin, whotaught arthas how to like wield
a weapon you know swords and allof that and he sort of
reminisces on how he was just aboy, uh, which is really cute.
You get one for utha, who sortof reminisces on how he was just
a boy, which is really cute.
You get one for Uther, who sortof almost forgives him for
(14:34):
betraying him and killing him ashis sort of mentor, almost.
You know, there's manydifferent ones and it's really
cool.
It really really is.
You have a perfect villain arcgoing from Warcraft into world
of warcraft and it beingfinished there.
That arc took years to finishand I think it's depicted so
(14:58):
perfectly and I think that thisis why zalatath is going to be
looked back on in the currentworld of warcraft as a very good
villain.
It depends on how long she'llbe a villain for and what she
needs to do to up that status ofoh shit, like she could really
be a villain.
I think that they dropped theball with hadgar still being
(15:20):
alive, okay.
I think that if zalatath hadkilled kadgar in the current
expansion, she would have beenlike oh fuck, okay, now it's
really kind of dangerous kind ofdeal.
But because she didn't, it'skind of still like, okay, she
hasn't really done much else.
You know, she's kind of pullingthe strings, yeah, but she
(15:42):
hasn't been the big bad.
She hasn't been like I havekilled everything, I am raising
a shit ton of undead and all ofthat stuff.
Like arthas, he hasn't had thator she hasn't had that sort of
betrayal moment yet that, ohshit, she's really bad.
Kind of deal.
Like yeah, she is, but sheneeds a something, she needs
that extra something just beingjust to be like well, we're
(16:06):
fucked, we have to end it now,kind of deal.
Um, so it's got to be arthas asbest character and favorite
character.
Just to see the whole story arcplay out how it ended.
It's absolutely amazing,absolutely amazing.
Look up law videos on it.
Honestly, there is so much lawabout arthas that it would take
(16:26):
me years to go into to get everysingle point.
But yeah, there is so muchabout it.
He is literally thought tobecause Arthas and the Lich King
are two different entities,they're two different people and
he has fought the Lich King andtaken dominance of the Helm.
It's so much lore it'sabsolutely amazing to listen to.
(16:52):
I will not do it justice here.
I'm not even going to try toLook up lore videos on Arthas
and there is so much about him.
It's absolutely amazing,amazing.
Would very much recommend thenext question.
I was gonna say quest, uh, thenext question is that do you
like the leveling?
Now I don't know if you'rereferring to classic or retail,
(17:15):
but I'm going to answer for both.
Leveling in classic and retailare two very different
experiences.
Leveling in classic is veryslow, a little bit tedious and
kind of a brain turn off OK.
Leveling in retail is very fast, but tedious and kind of a
(17:38):
brain turn off.
But tedious and kind of a brainturn off, okay.
So it depends on what you wouldprefer at the time.
Because if I wanted to spam,run some dungeons, get a lot of
dopamine in terms of get a lotof levels quite relatively
quickly, I would play retail.
If I wanted to play the game ata very much slower pace, I
(17:59):
would play classic the game at avery much slower pace.
I would play classic, andclassic quests are interesting,
to say the least.
Some might take you to othercontinents, some might just be
kill 10 cats.
You know these kind of dealsbut honestly, uh, it's so tough
I don't enjoy the leveling as itis at the moment, but I think
(18:21):
that I would enjoy it when itdoes the law walker cho stuff.
Now, the reason I say that isbecause leveling at the moment
is very much a chore.
Oh, okay, I want to get to maxlevel just so I have this um
class or this race as a maxlevel, because I do pvp.
Uh, the ratios do matter for me, so I need to make an undead
(18:42):
monk that I have will of theforsaken.
It would just be really useful,really needed and something
that can be used.
Um, as for classic, it's verymuch.
The whole journey is about thequesting.
So I'm not too upset that Ihave to do the questing um, and
I kind of take that intoconsideration.
So it's very much.
I can turn my brain off andjust super chill with the
(19:05):
questing.
Okay, I think in retail thequesting and the leveling
experience will be better whenlaw will could show, uh, stuff
that comes out next patch andwhat the law will show.
Questing experience is verymuch.
He's going to take pointswithin world of warcraft's lore
(19:26):
and basically allow you to livethrough them and do quest chains
through them.
So he's done arthur's zalatathand the brokers for arthur's,
he's very much done.
You get to see the culling ofStratholme, him going to
Northrend picking up Frostmourne, all of this stuff.
Oh, my God, excuse me, sorry,and essentially this is what
(19:49):
you're going to be seeing, and Ithink that that is a very good
way to level.
You're gaining experience, butyou're also gaining knowledge of
the lore and of the game itself, which I think is just a
win-win, because I enjoy thelore of world of warcraft.
I enjoy so much about it thatthis I usually rush when it
(20:10):
comes to retail leveling.
Okay, I want to rush through, Iwant to be like, yep, cool, I
just want this, this and this, Iwant these classes at this
level so that I can get thisracial ability pretty much and
all of that, but the leveling isvery much like okay, I'm still
getting levels, which is good,but I'm also experiencing some
really cool lore now and I thinkthat that is an amazing thing
(20:32):
to have.
So I genuinely think, when thelore walker chose stuff comes
out next patch that it will be alot better leveling experience
in retail.
I do have to say that they arecompletely different experiences
in leveling, but I do enjoy.
Oh, that's tough.
(20:53):
I get more satisfaction out ofgetting a level in classic than
I do in retail, but because Idon't always get a level in
classic and because I find itvery slow at points, I would
prefer retail leveling, andthat's just personal preference.
I think that that's just how mybrain works and I get that
that's going to be a veryunfavored and unpopular opinion,
(21:14):
but it's just how my brainworks.
It needs that sort of uh,almost small dopamine injections
quite quickly and retail welldoes give that.
Now I get that there's likesome good dopamine in playing
classic wow and leveling inclassic well, because it feels
like every quest you're doing ismeaningful.
(21:35):
It's like, oh, that's a nicechunk of xp, um, but brain can't
sustain that.
I don't think, and don't get mewrong, I think that classic
leveling is still very, verysolid.
It's just I prefer retail one,like, it's that simple, there's
nothing more to it, all it is.
Yeah, that's literally all itis.
(21:58):
There's nothing too much crazyabout it, but my voice is going
so I do need to call it there.
I do apologize.
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(22:18):
friend.
Goodbye all for listening andgo and val a friend, goodbye,
(22:48):
thank you.
Thank you, hello and welcome to the Pig and Whistle
Tales from Azeroth.
As always here at the Pig andWhistle Inn in Stormwind, I go
for a variety of subjects withregards to World of Warcraft.
I grab a bottle or a pint, sitback and enjoy this episode.
(01:06):
We're going to be going over afew things that I've been asked
personally.
We're going to be going throughthe questions of what I think
the best zone is in WoW, bestcharacter, etc.
Etc.
Many questions that have beenasked by you guys and I'm going
to be giving my answers to themAgain.
This is going to be veryopinionated, um, I hope that you
guys can sort of tune in aswell and give your opinions on
(01:28):
it.
Also, as always, we start offwith the weekly news.
We have orta and the godfatheras your world bosses for the
week.
They are located within ashkhetand the undermined delves are
your bonus event.
This means that you just getsimply more loot from your
delves.
This means that you can getmore gear, more gold, more
(01:49):
anything really, more curios toupgrade, brand etc.
Etc.
And finally, deepwing Dunk isyour brawl for this week.
This is essentially a deepwinggorge, but turned into a
basketball match.
So three orbs you grab one ofthe orbs and you have to take it
to the opposition's base andeither throw it into their hoop
(02:11):
or you dunk it, and dunkinggives you more points, but
essentially, first one to get toa certain amount of points wins
.
Very, very simple, quite a goodlittle game mode, and I think
it should be, personally, one ofthe main staple points of a
battleground.
I think that it should just bea battleground in general, to be
honest with you.
So I'm going to start off withthe first question and I do want
(02:33):
to say this first.
I do apologize if it's a bitslower in terms of me answering,
not feeling 100% today.
So, as you can tell, I'm takinga few pauses every now and
again, so I do apologize forthat.
But the first question that Ihave is something very simple
and this is going to be verysubjective, but best zone in WoW
(02:56):
?
Now, if you're talking abouteverything, every World of
Warcraft expansion, everythingthat's ever come out, every zone
, from uh classic starting zoneslike northshire or elwyn forest
all the way up to sort of uhashkahet, undermine everything
(03:21):
in between.
I am going to go Teldrassil.
Now people think, yes,teldrassil is a nice zone and
the reason I'm pickingTeldrassil is because I have the
very first memories of playingWoW there and I just love the
whole night elf stuff.
Obviously, there's a lot ofnight elf architecture and stuff
(03:43):
.
You have Darkshore, ashenvale,you, you have valshara, you have
multiple different zones thathave night elf architecture and,
let's face it, all of the zonesin well, potentially could be a
favorite zone for someone, okay, apart from sylathus, who loves
sylathus?
Um, but yes, I am going to gowith Teldrassil.
(04:05):
The reason being is because Iremember making my very first
night elf and this was my veryfirst character, the character
that I play to to this day, andI remember just seeing
lightsabers.
I remember seeing these cats, Iremember seeing these boars and
I remember seeing a big tree ona.
What I didn't know at the timewas a massive tree, because,
(04:28):
tell yourself, it was just agiant world tree.
You are questing on top of atree.
If, for those that didn't knowthat now, I think that, tell
yourself, was really good, justbecause of the music, the
ambience.
I love the whole feeling ofNight Elf zones Again, ashen,
veil, valshara come to mind, allof these different Night Elf
(04:49):
zones.
I just love the whole, almostethereal part of it.
I think that it's so cool.
I think that it's somethingthat is very simply done with
how they've portrayed Night Elelves and how their starting
zone is and you know what'shappening and all of this stuff.
(05:10):
Now I I any of the likestarting zones I could go to
genuinely well.
I say that I'm looking more atthe human starting zone, which
is northshire or elwyn forest asa whole, and I'm looking at
teldrass zone, which isNorthshire or Elwynn Forest as a
whole, and I'm looking atTeldrassil as the two main ones,
elwynn Forest being so iconicbecause you have the two mines.
(05:31):
You have Eastvale Logging Camp.
You have very important NPCsthere that people know, like
Hogger.
You have Princess, which is theboar in the farm in the bottom
right Now.
It's such a very well balancedzone all of these starting zones
.
In my honest opinion, thestarting zones are very, very
well balanced.
(05:52):
Now I can't say the same forthe horde.
I don't really know too muchabout the horde starting zones,
but I do have an understandingof them.
And you go from dirt into moredirt zones which isn't great
because it's duritar into thebarrens now saying that actually
(06:12):
undeads have a really goodstarting zone.
I love the whole sort of feelof not undead.
Why do I call them undead,forsaken?
They have such a very goodstarting zone as well as a zone
that leads off into that withSilverpine Forest, with the
whole Worgen and the Arathelstoryline in Classic.
So there possibly is a case forthe Forsaken Blood Elves as
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well.
They're very, very good when itcomes to starting zones, but
it's not any of the actual zoneslate on in the game that I
enjoy.
It's the early ones because itfeels so refreshing to make that
character and start thatjourney.
It really does.
Back in Classic I made a humanmage.
Big mistake, should have wentgnome, 100%.
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No, I should have went gnome,but I made a human mage and a
person who I was leveling withat the time wanted a druid, so
obviously they could only benight elf.
One of us had to make the trek,the menethil harbor run or the
wetlands run from uh teldrassilor from elwyn forest all the way
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to the opposite faction, andthis is a very long trek.
So we'll start it fromstormwind, the human zone or
city.
You get the tram to ironforge.
From ironforge you run all theway to the east of dunmarrow
into loch madan.
You run up through loch madan.
So you run north and then yourun all the way through the
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wetlands until you get tomenethil harbour.
Then you get to menethilharbour, take the boat over to
dark shore, which is, you know,not this you've done most of the
journey by that point.
But then from dark shore youget the boat over to ruth theron
village, which takes you totell your seal, the big tree.
Then you obviously run fromdarnassusus or Rutharen Village
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to Shadow Glen.
So it's one hell of a run and Ichose to go to Teldrassil
because I enjoy it a lot morealthough it should have been.
They come to me because there'sactually a druid trainer.
I was stuck with rank one,fireball for like 10 levels.
So, yeah, I couldn't train forlike 10 levels, which was kind
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of crazy, but it was really,really fun and I think that it's
something that you need toexperience.
Uh, when it comes to thestarting zones, if you just make
a new character and literallyturn up the music, turn up the
ambience, like sound, honestlytell yourself will not
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disappoint, especially when youget out of, uh, the very
starting bit, shadow glenn, whenyou get out of that and get to
dolinar, the little like town.
That's in between darnassus andshadow glenn, that's when the
music really kicks in and it'sjust so amazing.
But again, there's manydifferent things, but I have to
go with one of the startingzones because they are portrayed
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so perfectly for each race thatstarts there.
It's, it's amazing, all the wayfrom blood elves, forsaken
night elves, humans.
I even like the gnome startingzone, uh, gnome and dwarf, but
again, not as much as the others.
That one's going to be verysituational.
You obviously have all control,which are the same and again
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it's very situational.
I get that people might likethat idea more, um, of the
ruggedness, almost, rather thanthe ethereal, you know, sort of
night elf stuff.
But you know it's personalpreference and I think that
they've done so well indepicting the starting zones
that it's got to be one of them,in my honest opinion.
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Um, the next question is bestcharacter in wow or favorite
character?
There's loads, there isabsolutely loads, and it's
really really tough to actuallypick out one character.
But I am going to go with and Idon't think this is a
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controversial one, I think thatthis is a very obvious one for a
lot of people.
I'm gonna go with Arthas.
I think that I know that's theboring answer, but the way that
they've depicted its story allthroughout warcraft into
warcraft, like warcraft intoworld of warcraft I think it was
done flawlessly.
I think that they set up somuch of it in warcraft that
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bringing him back for like anexpansion in world of warcraft
is perfect.
He's a perfect villain to havean end boss for, even though he
wasn't technically the end bossof Wrath of the Lich King, it
was Ruby Sanctum.
But the way that it builds upto this pinnacle of you have to
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kill the Lich King and the LichKing is Arthas.
He is someone who hasterrorized and gone through so
much pain and all of this stuffis someone who has terrorized
and gone through so much painand all of this stuff like that.
It's so amazing to kill himessentially as an end boss.
I remember one of my firstmemories of wow is killing uh
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arthas, like in a 25 man pug,and it was great fun.
I found it absolutely amazingto do so.
So, icecrown, citadel, or goingthroughout the storyline you
obviously have arriving inNorthrend and then you slowly
work your way up, you get toIcecrown and when you're in
Icecrown they did something thatthey've never done before and
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it's a progressive story, it's aphased story almost.
So.
You start off in the bottomright of ice crown with just
this little outpost.
As you're progressing you get asecond outpost, a third one,
and then it all ends with, likeyou basically ready to storm the
citadel, the ice crown citadel,and break the gates down and
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push in, and then when you pushin and go into that raid, you
are met with, directly in frontof you, the first boss.
But the first boss is very faraway, just down a couple
corridors basically, and you'veset out a perimeter.
You've got all of the class, um, like sort of not trainers but
vendors there for your tier sets, so paladins, all of that.
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You have darian mograine there.
You have the leader of yourfaction there.
Um, you have obviously did Isay no tyrian mograine, leader
of your faction.
You have all of these differentpeople and you have kind of a
stepping stone into icc, icecrown, cit, and it feels grand
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and that's the best part, that'swhat makes it amazing.
The raid feels grand when youenter it and throughout the
entire thing you're constantlygetting like RP prompts.
Okay, so as soon as you walkpast a certain point at the
start of Icecrown, you getArth's talking to you and it's a
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very long rp thing.
You don't have to listen to it,you can just carry on clearing
trash, but he is talking to youand it's really really cool
because it's showing how much ofa villain he actually is.
And then you go and do theshadow morn quest line, the
legendary quest line, and at theend of it you are getting
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something that you know apartfrom a legendary, which is
really cool.
You loot arthas, uh, at the endof this quest line, and you get
a box.
This this box contains, I think, several items.
There is one for Mograine,which is a basically an echo of
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his father, and it's sayingthere's a lot of RP in all of
these, but it says that you know, thank you for freeing him and
stuff, and he gets to talk tohis son and all of this.
It's a really really like cool.
You one for sylvanas, whoreflects on how she was killed
by arthas and then raised as abanshee by him, and stuff like
this.
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You get one for muradin, whotaught arthas how to like wield
a weapon you know swords and allof that and he sort of
reminisces on how he was just aboy, uh, which is really cute.
You get one for utha, who sortof reminisces on how he was just
a boy, which is really cute.
You get one for Uther, who sortof almost forgives him for
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betraying him and killing him ashis sort of mentor, almost.
You know, there's manydifferent ones and it's really
cool.
It really really is.
You have a perfect villain arcgoing from Warcraft into world
of warcraft and it beingfinished there.
That arc took years to finishand I think it's depicted so
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perfectly and I think that thisis why zalatath is going to be
looked back on in the currentworld of warcraft as a very good
villain.
It depends on how long she'llbe a villain for and what she
needs to do to up that status ofoh shit, like she could really
be a villain.
I think that they dropped theball with hadgar still being
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alive, okay.
I think that if zalatath hadkilled kadgar in the current
expansion, she would have beenlike oh fuck, okay, now it's
really kind of dangerous kind ofdeal.
But because she didn't, it'skind of still like, okay, she
hasn't really done much else.
You know, she's kind of pullingthe strings, yeah, but she
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hasn't been the big bad.
She hasn't been like I havekilled everything, I am raising
a shit ton of undead and all ofthat stuff.
Like arthas, he hasn't had thator she hasn't had that sort of
betrayal moment yet that, ohshit, she's really bad.
Kind of deal.
Like yeah, she is, but sheneeds a something, she needs
that extra something just beingjust to be like well, we're
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fucked, we have to end it now,kind of deal.
Um, so it's got to be arthas asbest character and favorite
character.
Just to see the whole story arcplay out how it ended.
It's absolutely amazing,absolutely amazing.
Look up law videos on it.
Honestly, there is so much lawabout arthas that it would take
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me years to go into to get everysingle point.
But yeah, there is so muchabout it.
He is literally thought tobecause Arthas and the Lich King
are two different entities,they're two different people and
he has fought the Lich King andtaken dominance of the Helm.
It's so much lore it'sabsolutely amazing to listen to.
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I will not do it justice here.
I'm not even going to try toLook up lore videos on Arthas
and there is so much about him.
It's absolutely amazing,amazing.
Would very much recommend thenext question.
I was gonna say quest, uh, thenext question is that do you
like the leveling?
Now I don't know if you'rereferring to classic or retail,
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but I'm going to answer for both.
Leveling in classic and retailare two very different
experiences.
Leveling in classic is veryslow, a little bit tedious and
kind of a brain turn off OK.
Leveling in retail is very fast, but tedious and kind of a
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brain turn off.
But tedious and kind of a brainturn off, okay.
So it depends on what you wouldprefer at the time.
Because if I wanted to spam,run some dungeons, get a lot of
dopamine in terms of get a lotof levels quite relatively
quickly, I would play retail.
If I wanted to play the game ata very much slower pace, I
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would play classic the game at avery much slower pace.
I would play classic, andclassic quests are interesting,
to say the least.
Some might take you to othercontinents, some might just be
kill 10 cats.
You know these kind of dealsbut honestly, uh, it's so tough
I don't enjoy the leveling as itis at the moment, but I think
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that I would enjoy it when itdoes the law walker cho stuff.
Now, the reason I say that isbecause leveling at the moment
is very much a chore.
Oh, okay, I want to get to maxlevel just so I have this um
class or this race as a maxlevel, because I do pvp.
Uh, the ratios do matter for me, so I need to make an undead
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monk that I have will of theforsaken.
It would just be really useful,really needed and something
that can be used.
Um, as for classic, it's verymuch.
The whole journey is about thequesting.
So I'm not too upset that Ihave to do the questing um, and
I kind of take that intoconsideration.
So it's very much.
I can turn my brain off andjust super chill with the
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questing.
Okay, I think in retail thequesting and the leveling
experience will be better whenlaw will could show, uh, stuff
that comes out next patch andwhat the law will show.
Questing experience is verymuch.
He's going to take pointswithin world of warcraft's lore
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and basically allow you to livethrough them and do quest chains
through them.
So he's done arthur's zalatathand the brokers for arthur's,
he's very much done.
You get to see the culling ofStratholme, him going to
Northrend picking up Frostmourne, all of this stuff.
Oh, my God, excuse me, sorry,and essentially this is what
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you're going to be seeing, and Ithink that that is a very good
way to level.
You're gaining experience, butyou're also gaining knowledge of
the lore and of the game itself, which I think is just a
win-win, because I enjoy thelore of world of warcraft.
I enjoy so much about it thatthis I usually rush when it
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comes to retail leveling.
Okay, I want to rush through, Iwant to be like, yep, cool, I
just want this, this and this, Iwant these classes at this
level so that I can get thisracial ability pretty much and
all of that, but the leveling isvery much like okay, I'm still
getting levels, which is good,but I'm also experiencing some
really cool lore now and I thinkthat that is an amazing thing
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to have.
So I genuinely think, when thelore walker chose stuff comes
out next patch that it will be alot better leveling experience
in retail.
I do have to say that they arecompletely different experiences
in leveling, but I do enjoy.
Oh, that's tough.
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I get more satisfaction out ofgetting a level in classic than
I do in retail, but because Idon't always get a level in
classic and because I find itvery slow at points, I would
prefer retail leveling, andthat's just personal preference.
I think that that's just how mybrain works and I get that
that's going to be a veryunfavored and unpopular opinion,
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but it's just how my brainworks.
It needs that sort of uh,almost small dopamine injections
quite quickly and retail welldoes give that.
Now I get that there's likesome good dopamine in playing
classic wow and leveling inclassic well, because it feels
like every quest you're doing ismeaningful.
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It's like, oh, that's a nicechunk of xp, um, but brain can't
sustain that.
I don't think, and don't get mewrong, I think that classic
leveling is still very, verysolid.
It's just I prefer retail one,like, it's that simple, there's
nothing more to it, all it is.
Yeah, that's literally all itis.
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There's nothing too much crazyabout it, but my voice is going
so I do need to call it there.
I do apologize.
Do check out all of the socialsdown below.
Constant stuff happening overthere, as well as stuff on the
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friend.
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