January 4, 2026 • 26 mins
Grief is an intrinsic aspect of the human experience, one that we all encounter in various forms throughout our lives. Throughout our discourse, we delve into the multifaceted nature of grief, emphasizing the necessity of acknowledging and processing our emotions as a means to navigate through the pain. Acceptance, we assert, does not equate to forgetting or diminishing the significance of our loss; rather, it is a pathway to reconciling with our reality and honoring the lives of those we have lost. We will explore the profound implications of grief, touching upon the ways it alters our existence and how it can lead us to question our very purpose in life. Join us as we embark on this introspective journey, examining the Pillars of Grief and their potential to guide us towards understanding and healing. The episode provides a thoughtful exploration of the various dimensions of grief, commencing with the assertion that grief is a universal experience that reshapes our reality.
We delve into the disorientation and disconnection that often accompany grief, acknowledging how it can alienate us from our social circles and alter our interpersonal dynamics. The discussion extends beyond the death of a loved one, recognizing that grief can arise from myriad forms of loss, including relationships, careers, and even existential crises. Throughout our conversation, we reflect on the emotional turmoil that often accompanies grief, characterized by a sense of abandonment and isolation.
We stress the uniqueness of each individual's grieving process, advocating for a compassionate understanding of the varied expressions of grief. The episode culminates in a revelation that grief necessitates deeper inquiry into one's own existence and purpose, challenging listeners to confront their emotions and seek meaning amidst the chaos. This episode is not merely an examination of sorrow; it is an invitation to engage in a deeper dialogue with oneself, to transform grief from an experience of despair into a catalyst for personal transformation and renewed purpose.
Takeaways:
- Grief is an intrinsic aspect of the human experience, manifesting in various forms throughout our lives.
- Awareness of our emotions during grief facilitates acceptance and progression through our pain effectively.
- Acceptance of grief does not equate to forgetting, but rather signifies a reconciliation with loss and its implications.
- Honoring our departed loved ones can provide a meaningful way to navigate our grief journey, celebrating their lives.
- Grief can significantly alter our reality, leading to feelings of disconnection and disorientation from those around us.
- The complexities of grief extend beyond death, encompassing a myriad of losses that influence our emotional and psychological well-being.
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Grief is a natural part oflife and we all experience it at
some point.
By becoming aware of ouremotions in the process of grief,
we can begin to accept andmove through our pain.
Acceptance doesn't mean thatwe forget or stop feeling the loss,
but it allows us to come toterms with it.
And finally, we can choose tohonour our loved ones by celebrating
(00:27):
their life and finding meaningin our grief.
Join me me as we explore thesePillars of Grief and how they can
help us navigate the journeyof grief.
We will explore this journeytogether and you will hear from experiencers,
experts and researchers.
I'm Joc Brokis and this is thePillars of Grief.
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Good morning, good afternoon,good evening, my friends.
Welcome to the Pillars of Grief.
No, grief changes our reality.
This is something that I'vespoken about a lot, changes our reality.
We get disoriented, we get disconnected.
It can alienate us fromfriends and family that we still
(01:19):
have here.
But also remember that griefdoesn't also just mean about death,
you know, can mean loss in alldifferent avenues, different ways.
And that disconnection,although it's a different expression,
it can be just as the same.
We often lose our way in lifethrough grief.
(01:40):
And even now, you know, as wecome past these holidays, even now,
I can feel the burden of griefstill through all the losses that
I've had.
And so it's normal to feeldisconnected, it's normal to feel
disoriented, it's normal tofeel the way that we normally feel
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when we lose a loved one orlose anything in life.
But then something happens.
We start to question.
We question our own mortality,we question life.
And so grief becomes thisbigger expression.
It's not just about the lossof a loved one, you know, whether
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it's your mother, your father,your sibling, you know, a relation,
a friend, a pet, even arelationship, a job.
There's so many differentexpressions of grief that affect
us in so many different ways.
And the questions start off emotional.
(02:50):
It starts off kind of feelingmore about how we are disconnected,
how we are lost, how we'velost touch with that individual or
that loved one, and how wefeel abandoned.
And so we have so manyemotions that run through us at any
given time.
There's no really kind of anystage in grief that we can go through
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in a linear form.
And I've talked about thisbefore and I probably should do maybe
another talk about this, butthere's a loneliness in not having
our questions answered.
We tend to think, well, I'vegot so many questions, but I might
feel that I Can't express thembecause I might feel judged.
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I might feel that it's not theright question.
Or maybe there's an elementwhere I'll feel silly and people
will have an expectation of me.
And that expectation is not inline with what everybody thinks that
you should be doing or how youshould be experiencing your grief.
And remember that everybody'sexpression of grief is entirely unique.
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It's entirely different.
And so often what happens iswe then find, you know, we'll go
to a counselor, right?
And then we'll come in acommunity is fantastic.
But if it's the rightcommunity and it's the right thing
that you're, you're, you'reconnecting for and the right, you're
there for the right reason.
(04:21):
But we go to communities or weread books or especially if we've
lost a loved one and itbecomes very much comfort oriented.
But you got to remember thatthat comfort is temporary, right?
It doesn't last as long aswhat you think.
And so even in a community oreven if you're in a group and you're
(04:45):
dealing with maybepsychotherapy or any kind of other
psychotherapy, or you'retalking to a counselor in some way,
again, it's about therelationship that you have with that
loss and that grief and, andhow you can cope with it and how,
how, how it really affects youin your life emotionally.
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Looking at it from apsychological point of view.
But the reality is, is thatgrief is so much bigger than that.
It's, it's, there's so muchmore that it can often kind of change
the whole ontologic.
You have like an ontologicalshock or an ontological shift.
That means that your, your,your meaning or your, the way that
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you feel in the world, your,your on, okay?
And you then can go into,potentially, it can become an existential
crisis.
It's no longer just aboutlosing that loved one.
It's about your role in life,where you're going, your direction.
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And you have to remember thatgrief is a domino effect, right?
Grief can lead to so manyother things that I kind of want
to, I want to talk about thatin a minute.
Things that I've seen fromjust the loss of one loved one or
the loss of something, whatactually can happen.
And so our whole reality, ourwhole meaning, our whole way of being
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in the world can changethrough grief.
And again, we look beyond thatgrief as loss in all sorts of forms.
But the comfort, you see,it's, it's a temporary thing because
when you go to that counselorand you Sit down and you speak with
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them, or you're in that group,in that circle that you talk about.
It's comfort in that moment.
And sometimes it doesn't carryon because triggers exist out in
the world, in the real world,triggers exist.
And those triggers can thencause us to go into shock again or
had to have that existentialcrisis again.
I'll talk a little bit aboutthat in a minute.
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It spreads to all avenues ofyour life.
And even when you getreassurance, people try to reassure
you or try to connect with youand tell you it's a temporary thing.
And this, we understand whatyou're going through.
Nobody can really understandyou other than you.
We can have an idea of aframework about what grief actually
would maybe mean.
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Nobody really.
The way that you feel it, yourexpression is completely unique to
you.
So grief becomes something bigger.
It's multitudinous in its expression.
And just because you lose ahusband or a wife or a relationship
or something, it can dominointo this.
(07:46):
And this is what I want totalk about.
What I've seen over the years.
I have seen grief not onlycause sadness and shock and disruption
in someone's life and tochange their whole direction or their
whole purpose, or even tocompletely alienate them from everything
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in life, but I've also seengrief then cause the loss of a career.
And I'm not talking about.
There's an expression in griefthat we feel.
We can feel grief in manyother ways.
Like I've said, losing acareer can cause us to feel grief.
Losing a relationship cancause us to feel grief.
Losing property and a disastercan cause us to feel grief.
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But think about this.
Losing a loved one could alsodomino effect into you losing your
job.
Because you get sodisconnected, you feel so alienated,
you feel so disoriented thatyou lose passion for your job.
You lose passion for theservice that you're doing.
And so what happens is that you.
Then you start to suffer inyour work, in your career, and so
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that becomes a threat.
And then at the same time, therelationship there at, in the workplace,
that can also causedisconnection, distance, feeling,
you know, feelings of alienation.
Because of, you lost a son,you've lost a daughter, a mother,
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a father, and now it'saffecting you in your career and
that relationship.
Then you become distanced fromthose around you.
You can't really communicate.
You don't know how to communicate.
You don't know how otherpeople act.
And so we live in a worldthat's completely filled with different
types of People, differentraces, religions, creeds, everything.
And so we don't know how tocope with that, and they don't know
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how to cope with us.
And people will say wordsgleebly, right?
They'll give you platitudesthat you don't want.
And so again, this creates abit of distance.
And then what happens is youfeel so lost that you now want to
leave your career, or even theworst case, you get fired.
And then you go home.
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And maybe you go home to yourhusband or your wife, right?
And let's say you're a lawyeror something, or your executive,
you're in a position of powerand maybe you're leading people.
Now you go home and that lossthat you've experienced, that loved
one you've experienced has now.
You've lost your job, you nowgo home, and then you've got other
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problems that exist in there.
So what happens is now yourown home life is beginning to get
threatened.
So it's not just the loss ofthe job now your home life, your
relationship, maybe, maybeit's even gonna head towards divorce,
separation.
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Then you've got children maybeinvolved, and then that creates another
problem.
And then you've got your wholeenvironment, your friends, your family.
So this one loss that you'veexperienced can actually cause a
multitude of changes, amultitude of things in your life
that seemingly are negativeand cause disruption and cause disconnection.
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And then you start to find.
You start to question your ownmeaning and your own purpose in life.
And you're trying to findmeaning out of this loss.
You're trying to find a newpurpose for yourself.
Patterns are continually changing.
Patterns are continually thenrepeating as well.
So you've got changing andthen you've got repeating patterns
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because you find yourselflocked in a prison that you've created.
So how do you cope with this?
That's the difficulty.
How do we actually move forward?
Well, then grief becomes a bigthreshold in your life and you go
into an existential crisis.
You go into a spiritual crisis.
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Nothing to do with religion or anything.
Anybody can go into aspiritual crisis because of this.
And you start to question yourvery own reality.
And here's the other thing.
I have seen people that I haveworked with, I have did sittings
for and families and organizations.
And whilst I say that thisdomino can affect in your life and
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everything else, I have talkedpeople, I'll give you a story.
I talked to an individual whowas suffering.
I had a reputation formilitary people and special ops people
and things coming because ofhow I was very confidential Very
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quiet.
And I had experience indifferent fields within the military
and other areas.
And I had a person many, many,many years ago come to me who had
a connection there, but alsotheir father was connected in another
foreign organization who wasresponsible for many atrocities,
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many things.
Now, I'm not talking abouthim, but this then, this grief that
he was experiencing from lossof his job, loss of his brothers
and sisters in the field, thisloss had exacerbated, caused him
to go into this spiritualcrisis, a spiritual shock, an existential
crisis, and everything in his life.
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And he sat in front of me, Iremember him, and he said he actually
didn't want to come and see me.
But the first words out hismouth, and I'm not going into any
psychological evaluation oranything, but was after he'd been
attempting, he'd consideredtaking his own life and that he was
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still considering that and hedidn't actually want to be with me.
He was brought to me for areason, and that after he sees me,
nothing was changing.
He was eventually going totake his own life.
That's what he said.
Now, whether you believe thatthat was true or not, clearly the
person was reaching out.
But clearly this grief fromhis relationship with his father
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and the position that he hadand the positions that he held and
what he had been involved in,this loss that he experienced, which
was a culmination of losingloved ones and also the culmination
of his position and theculmination of the disconnection
and loss of meaning, he wentinto a spiritual crisis.
Now that spiritual crisis,that whole rupture in his life, changed
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the whole trajectory.
And it could have been disastrous.
Thankfully not, and I'm notgoing to go into that.
But it gives you an idea thatgrief goes way beyond, way beyond
just that one experience.
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Some of us just cope with lossand we can cope with it and we get
through it.
A lot of us want to find more.
We want answers.
And in this silence, becausewe're terrified to ask the questions,
or we're terrified to go intoinquiry deeper, to feel deeper for
ourselves, we tend to thenjust take a level that's just comfort.
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It's just a level of comfort.
And this comfort passes.
So I've been had a lot ofexperience over the years dealing
with people in positions,positions of power and leadership,
and also family members andpeople who have lost loved ones through
crime and also through illnessand separation.
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But then, of course, I'vedealt with a lot of people who have
experienced grief and manyother different expressions, not
only from the battlefield, butdifferent expressions in relationships.
And at the moment, I have acase where there is a problem with
grief that is expressingitself within a family unit and nobody's
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passed, but the grief is justas real because of disconnection
and loss and everything else.
So I decided what I was goingto do is to create a journey, a transformative
experience with me.
And this is what I'mannouncing today.
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This is the between worldstransformative journey.
Not just looking at theelements of the afterlife, not just
looking at the elements oflosing a loved one and how to understand
grief, but looking at everyaspect of how it affects you in life.
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Tackling those really deepexistential questions that in the
silence, never get answered.
And I'm not talking about justquestions about do we have a body
in the afterlife?
I mean, I have a few episodesthat I talk about this kind of stuff.
But this is deep, this is transformational.
This is understanding grief,every facet in your being and how
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grief impacts the world andimpacts you, and the difference between
understanding the spiritualcrisis and a pathology, your psychosis
or schizophrenia, anythinglike that.
Not to challenge religion orbelief systems, but to give you enough
information on culture to giveyou a deep look into the reality
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of disconnection and thepsychological building blocks of
your reality.
To learn how to trust yourselfand how to recognize your inner power
and how not only you canconnect, reconnect with yourself,
but also reconnect with thoseoutside of yourself and also to connect
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with your loved ones on theother side.
There is nothing that existslike this because every course is
a kind of short course, orit's something that's temporary.
It's something that is reallyabout comfort and, you know, just
getting you to cope with grief.
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This is different.
This is a fulltransformational journey that you
will go on with me each monthfor a whole year.
We're going to be starting inthe end of January, small cohort,
very small cohort of people.
And every couple of monthsI'll open it up.
But in that cohort, you'regoing to go through 12 modules over
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the year.
Each module has got differentlessons inside of it, four to six
lessons in depth, but you cantake it at your own time.
And then once a month, you'llconnect with me live.
We'll have a talk, we'll havea chat, we'll work with each other.
We'll be in this little cohortwhere you can ask your questions
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safely, where you can talk tome about your challenges.
You also be part of my privatecommunity in a very private aspect
to that community where youcan actually connect with me directly
as well and ask questions.
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And there'll be things thatI'll get you to do to.
To take on board, maybeexercises or things that you've got
to go out and challengeyourself with to understand your
psychological patterns, yourbehavior, to understand other people
as well, to look at your wholelife and not just the aspects of
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loss, look at everything inyour life.
It's important that we do thisbecause there's a lot more to the
grieving journey than justlosing a loved one.
Because that loss can, as Isaid, it can be that domino effect
that goes into all aspects ofyour life.
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And I want to give you thetools and the strategy to not only
integrate grief, but to let itbecome a superpower in your life.
So this is a transformationaljourney that I'm inviting you on.
It's called Between Worlds,Understanding the science of the
Afterlife.
Understanding.
So the science of loss in the afterlife.
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And that name could change,the sub name could change.
But it's a journey that you'regoing to go on with me for a whole
year.
And so I'm inviting you, ifyou have got deeper existential questions,
if you feel that you want tobe challenged and do something, understanding
your loss, whether it be yourloss of your father, your mother,
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your brother, your brothers inarms, your sisters on the battlefield,
whether you're in a leadershipposition, but you really want to
go through this and challengeyourself and become a better person
for you and a better personfor humanity to be able to serve
greater in the world becauseof your experiences of grief, then
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this journey is for you.
And I'm inviting you to comeon this journey with me.
Below you're going to find thelink to the sign up page on my website
and that'll tell youeverything you need to know about
the course and what you'regoing to go through and the journey.
Sorry, everything you need toknow about the journey.
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And then you can fill in theform to pre register.
You don't need to pay anythingat all just now.
Just pre register so that wecan get the small cohort going.
You see what you're upagainst, what you would like to do,
and end of January, we'll begin.
So if you've got greaterquestions, if you feel you want to
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challenge yourself throughyour experiences, to really transform
yourself, your environment,your life and impact others, then
Between Worlds is for you.
God bless.
Hi there.
Grief often raises deeperquestions about life.
Not just because it hurt, butbecause it changes every aspect of
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your life over the years Ihave seen how few spaces exist that
really only are about comfort,and comfort is temporary.
There isn't really anythingthat explores grief in a journey.
It doesn't help you to pushthe boundaries to integrate grief
into your life.
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That's why I created Between Worlds.
It's a year long journey withme personally that unfolds month
by month for people who havegot bigger questions, who questions
that can't be ignored, thatwant to go beyond the comfort and
to learn more about their journey.
The work is held in smallcontained cohorts.
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It's got a space for reflection.
You have a monthly live callwith me and you can use this time
to transform your life.
If this resonates with you,you can learn more through my site,
jockbrokers.com.
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Who understand what you'regrateful going through.
I offer you a spiritualblessing and hope you will join me
on the next episode.
Till then, open your mind and allow.
The power of the divine to transform.
Your grief to spiritual realization.
God Bless.
Grief is a natural part oflife and we all experience it at
some point.
By becoming aware of ouremotions in the process of grief,
we can begin to accept andmove through our pain.
Acceptance doesn't mean thatwe forget or stop feeling the loss,
but it allows us to come toterms with it.
And finally, we can choose tohonour our loved ones by celebrating
(00:27):
their life and finding meaningin our grief.
Join me me as we explore thesePillars of Grief and how they can
help us navigate the journeyof grief.
We will explore this journeytogether and you will hear from experiencers,
experts and researchers.
I'm Joc Brokis and this is thePillars of Grief.
(00:55):
Good morning, good afternoon,good evening, my friends.
Welcome to the Pillars of Grief.
No, grief changes our reality.
This is something that I'vespoken about a lot, changes our reality.
We get disoriented, we get disconnected.
It can alienate us fromfriends and family that we still
(01:19):
have here.
But also remember that griefdoesn't also just mean about death,
you know, can mean loss in alldifferent avenues, different ways.
And that disconnection,although it's a different expression,
it can be just as the same.
We often lose our way in lifethrough grief.
(01:40):
And even now, you know, as wecome past these holidays, even now,
I can feel the burden of griefstill through all the losses that
I've had.
And so it's normal to feeldisconnected, it's normal to feel
disoriented, it's normal tofeel the way that we normally feel
(02:08):
when we lose a loved one orlose anything in life.
But then something happens.
We start to question.
We question our own mortality,we question life.
And so grief becomes thisbigger expression.
It's not just about the lossof a loved one, you know, whether
(02:28):
it's your mother, your father,your sibling, you know, a relation,
a friend, a pet, even arelationship, a job.
There's so many differentexpressions of grief that affect
us in so many different ways.
And the questions start off emotional.
(02:50):
It starts off kind of feelingmore about how we are disconnected,
how we are lost, how we'velost touch with that individual or
that loved one, and how wefeel abandoned.
And so we have so manyemotions that run through us at any
given time.
There's no really kind of anystage in grief that we can go through
(03:13):
in a linear form.
And I've talked about thisbefore and I probably should do maybe
another talk about this, butthere's a loneliness in not having
our questions answered.
We tend to think, well, I'vegot so many questions, but I might
feel that I Can't express thembecause I might feel judged.
(03:37):
I might feel that it's not theright question.
Or maybe there's an elementwhere I'll feel silly and people
will have an expectation of me.
And that expectation is not inline with what everybody thinks that
you should be doing or how youshould be experiencing your grief.
And remember that everybody'sexpression of grief is entirely unique.
(04:01):
It's entirely different.
And so often what happens iswe then find, you know, we'll go
to a counselor, right?
And then we'll come in acommunity is fantastic.
But if it's the rightcommunity and it's the right thing
that you're, you're, you'reconnecting for and the right, you're
there for the right reason.
(04:21):
But we go to communities or weread books or especially if we've
lost a loved one and itbecomes very much comfort oriented.
But you got to remember thatthat comfort is temporary, right?
It doesn't last as long aswhat you think.
And so even in a community oreven if you're in a group and you're
(04:45):
dealing with maybepsychotherapy or any kind of other
psychotherapy, or you'retalking to a counselor in some way,
again, it's about therelationship that you have with that
loss and that grief and, andhow you can cope with it and how,
how, how it really affects youin your life emotionally.
(05:06):
Looking at it from apsychological point of view.
But the reality is, is thatgrief is so much bigger than that.
It's, it's, there's so muchmore that it can often kind of change
the whole ontologic.
You have like an ontologicalshock or an ontological shift.
That means that your, your,your meaning or your, the way that
(05:28):
you feel in the world, your,your on, okay?
And you then can go into,potentially, it can become an existential
crisis.
It's no longer just aboutlosing that loved one.
It's about your role in life,where you're going, your direction.
(05:49):
And you have to remember thatgrief is a domino effect, right?
Grief can lead to so manyother things that I kind of want
to, I want to talk about thatin a minute.
Things that I've seen fromjust the loss of one loved one or
the loss of something, whatactually can happen.
And so our whole reality, ourwhole meaning, our whole way of being
(06:15):
in the world can changethrough grief.
And again, we look beyond thatgrief as loss in all sorts of forms.
But the comfort, you see,it's, it's a temporary thing because
when you go to that counselorand you Sit down and you speak with
(06:37):
them, or you're in that group,in that circle that you talk about.
It's comfort in that moment.
And sometimes it doesn't carryon because triggers exist out in
the world, in the real world,triggers exist.
And those triggers can thencause us to go into shock again or
had to have that existentialcrisis again.
I'll talk a little bit aboutthat in a minute.
(07:02):
It spreads to all avenues ofyour life.
And even when you getreassurance, people try to reassure
you or try to connect with youand tell you it's a temporary thing.
And this, we understand whatyou're going through.
Nobody can really understandyou other than you.
We can have an idea of aframework about what grief actually
would maybe mean.
(07:23):
Nobody really.
The way that you feel it, yourexpression is completely unique to
you.
So grief becomes something bigger.
It's multitudinous in its expression.
And just because you lose ahusband or a wife or a relationship
or something, it can dominointo this.
(07:46):
And this is what I want totalk about.
What I've seen over the years.
I have seen grief not onlycause sadness and shock and disruption
in someone's life and tochange their whole direction or their
whole purpose, or even tocompletely alienate them from everything
(08:07):
in life, but I've also seengrief then cause the loss of a career.
And I'm not talking about.
There's an expression in griefthat we feel.
We can feel grief in manyother ways.
Like I've said, losing acareer can cause us to feel grief.
Losing a relationship cancause us to feel grief.
Losing property and a disastercan cause us to feel grief.
(08:27):
But think about this.
Losing a loved one could alsodomino effect into you losing your
job.
Because you get sodisconnected, you feel so alienated,
you feel so disoriented thatyou lose passion for your job.
You lose passion for theservice that you're doing.
And so what happens is that you.
Then you start to suffer inyour work, in your career, and so
(08:49):
that becomes a threat.
And then at the same time, therelationship there at, in the workplace,
that can also causedisconnection, distance, feeling,
you know, feelings of alienation.
Because of, you lost a son,you've lost a daughter, a mother,
(09:12):
a father, and now it'saffecting you in your career and
that relationship.
Then you become distanced fromthose around you.
You can't really communicate.
You don't know how to communicate.
You don't know how otherpeople act.
And so we live in a worldthat's completely filled with different
types of People, differentraces, religions, creeds, everything.
And so we don't know how tocope with that, and they don't know
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how to cope with us.
And people will say wordsgleebly, right?
They'll give you platitudesthat you don't want.
And so again, this creates abit of distance.
And then what happens is youfeel so lost that you now want to
leave your career, or even theworst case, you get fired.
And then you go home.
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And maybe you go home to yourhusband or your wife, right?
And let's say you're a lawyeror something, or your executive,
you're in a position of powerand maybe you're leading people.
Now you go home and that lossthat you've experienced, that loved
one you've experienced has now.
You've lost your job, you nowgo home, and then you've got other
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problems that exist in there.
So what happens is now yourown home life is beginning to get
threatened.
So it's not just the loss ofthe job now your home life, your
relationship, maybe, maybeit's even gonna head towards divorce,
separation.
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Then you've got children maybeinvolved, and then that creates another
problem.
And then you've got your wholeenvironment, your friends, your family.
So this one loss that you'veexperienced can actually cause a
multitude of changes, amultitude of things in your life
that seemingly are negativeand cause disruption and cause disconnection.
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And then you start to find.
You start to question your ownmeaning and your own purpose in life.
And you're trying to findmeaning out of this loss.
You're trying to find a newpurpose for yourself.
Patterns are continually changing.
Patterns are continually thenrepeating as well.
So you've got changing andthen you've got repeating patterns
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because you find yourselflocked in a prison that you've created.
So how do you cope with this?
That's the difficulty.
How do we actually move forward?
Well, then grief becomes a bigthreshold in your life and you go
into an existential crisis.
You go into a spiritual crisis.
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Nothing to do with religion or anything.
Anybody can go into aspiritual crisis because of this.
And you start to question yourvery own reality.
And here's the other thing.
I have seen people that I haveworked with, I have did sittings
for and families and organizations.
And whilst I say that thisdomino can affect in your life and
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everything else, I have talkedpeople, I'll give you a story.
I talked to an individual whowas suffering.
I had a reputation formilitary people and special ops people
and things coming because ofhow I was very confidential Very
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quiet.
And I had experience indifferent fields within the military
and other areas.
And I had a person many, many,many years ago come to me who had
a connection there, but alsotheir father was connected in another
foreign organization who wasresponsible for many atrocities,
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many things.
Now, I'm not talking abouthim, but this then, this grief that
he was experiencing from lossof his job, loss of his brothers
and sisters in the field, thisloss had exacerbated, caused him
to go into this spiritualcrisis, a spiritual shock, an existential
crisis, and everything in his life.
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And he sat in front of me, Iremember him, and he said he actually
didn't want to come and see me.
But the first words out hismouth, and I'm not going into any
psychological evaluation oranything, but was after he'd been
attempting, he'd consideredtaking his own life and that he was
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still considering that and hedidn't actually want to be with me.
He was brought to me for areason, and that after he sees me,
nothing was changing.
He was eventually going totake his own life.
That's what he said.
Now, whether you believe thatthat was true or not, clearly the
person was reaching out.
But clearly this grief fromhis relationship with his father
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and the position that he hadand the positions that he held and
what he had been involved in,this loss that he experienced, which
was a culmination of losingloved ones and also the culmination
of his position and theculmination of the disconnection
and loss of meaning, he wentinto a spiritual crisis.
Now that spiritual crisis,that whole rupture in his life, changed
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the whole trajectory.
And it could have been disastrous.
Thankfully not, and I'm notgoing to go into that.
But it gives you an idea thatgrief goes way beyond, way beyond
just that one experience.
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Some of us just cope with lossand we can cope with it and we get
through it.
A lot of us want to find more.
We want answers.
And in this silence, becausewe're terrified to ask the questions,
or we're terrified to go intoinquiry deeper, to feel deeper for
ourselves, we tend to thenjust take a level that's just comfort.
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It's just a level of comfort.
And this comfort passes.
So I've been had a lot ofexperience over the years dealing
with people in positions,positions of power and leadership,
and also family members andpeople who have lost loved ones through
crime and also through illnessand separation.
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But then, of course, I'vedealt with a lot of people who have
experienced grief and manyother different expressions, not
only from the battlefield, butdifferent expressions in relationships.
And at the moment, I have acase where there is a problem with
grief that is expressingitself within a family unit and nobody's
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passed, but the grief is justas real because of disconnection
and loss and everything else.
So I decided what I was goingto do is to create a journey, a transformative
experience with me.
And this is what I'mannouncing today.
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This is the between worldstransformative journey.
Not just looking at theelements of the afterlife, not just
looking at the elements oflosing a loved one and how to understand
grief, but looking at everyaspect of how it affects you in life.
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Tackling those really deepexistential questions that in the
silence, never get answered.
And I'm not talking about justquestions about do we have a body
in the afterlife?
I mean, I have a few episodesthat I talk about this kind of stuff.
But this is deep, this is transformational.
This is understanding grief,every facet in your being and how
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grief impacts the world andimpacts you, and the difference between
understanding the spiritualcrisis and a pathology, your psychosis
or schizophrenia, anythinglike that.
Not to challenge religion orbelief systems, but to give you enough
information on culture to giveyou a deep look into the reality
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of disconnection and thepsychological building blocks of
your reality.
To learn how to trust yourselfand how to recognize your inner power
and how not only you canconnect, reconnect with yourself,
but also reconnect with thoseoutside of yourself and also to connect
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with your loved ones on theother side.
There is nothing that existslike this because every course is
a kind of short course, orit's something that's temporary.
It's something that is reallyabout comfort and, you know, just
getting you to cope with grief.
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This is different.
This is a fulltransformational journey that you
will go on with me each monthfor a whole year.
We're going to be starting inthe end of January, small cohort,
very small cohort of people.
And every couple of monthsI'll open it up.
But in that cohort, you'regoing to go through 12 modules over
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the year.
Each module has got differentlessons inside of it, four to six
lessons in depth, but you cantake it at your own time.
And then once a month, you'llconnect with me live.
We'll have a talk, we'll havea chat, we'll work with each other.
We'll be in this little cohortwhere you can ask your questions
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safely, where you can talk tome about your challenges.
You also be part of my privatecommunity in a very private aspect
to that community where youcan actually connect with me directly
as well and ask questions.
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And there'll be things thatI'll get you to do to.
To take on board, maybeexercises or things that you've got
to go out and challengeyourself with to understand your
psychological patterns, yourbehavior, to understand other people
as well, to look at your wholelife and not just the aspects of
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loss, look at everything inyour life.
It's important that we do thisbecause there's a lot more to the
grieving journey than justlosing a loved one.
Because that loss can, as Isaid, it can be that domino effect
that goes into all aspects ofyour life.
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And I want to give you thetools and the strategy to not only
integrate grief, but to let itbecome a superpower in your life.
So this is a transformationaljourney that I'm inviting you on.
It's called Between Worlds,Understanding the science of the
Afterlife.
Understanding.
So the science of loss in the afterlife.
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And that name could change,the sub name could change.
But it's a journey that you'regoing to go on with me for a whole
year.
And so I'm inviting you, ifyou have got deeper existential questions,
if you feel that you want tobe challenged and do something, understanding
your loss, whether it be yourloss of your father, your mother,
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your brother, your brothers inarms, your sisters on the battlefield,
whether you're in a leadershipposition, but you really want to
go through this and challengeyourself and become a better person
for you and a better personfor humanity to be able to serve
greater in the world becauseof your experiences of grief, then
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this journey is for you.
And I'm inviting you to comeon this journey with me.
Below you're going to find thelink to the sign up page on my website
and that'll tell youeverything you need to know about
the course and what you'regoing to go through and the journey.
Sorry, everything you need toknow about the journey.
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And then you can fill in theform to pre register.
You don't need to pay anythingat all just now.
Just pre register so that wecan get the small cohort going.
You see what you're upagainst, what you would like to do,
and end of January, we'll begin.
So if you've got greaterquestions, if you feel you want to
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challenge yourself throughyour experiences, to really transform
yourself, your environment,your life and impact others, then
Between Worlds is for you.
God bless.
Hi there.
Grief often raises deeperquestions about life.
Not just because it hurt, butbecause it changes every aspect of
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your life over the years Ihave seen how few spaces exist that
really only are about comfort,and comfort is temporary.
There isn't really anythingthat explores grief in a journey.
It doesn't help you to pushthe boundaries to integrate grief
into your life.
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That's why I created Between Worlds.
It's a year long journey withme personally that unfolds month
by month for people who havegot bigger questions, who questions
that can't be ignored, thatwant to go beyond the comfort and
to learn more about their journey.
The work is held in smallcontained cohorts.
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It's got a space for reflection.
You have a monthly live callwith me and you can use this time
to transform your life.
If this resonates with you,you can learn more through my site,
jockbrokers.com.
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Thank you for tuning in to the.
Pillars of Grief with me.
If you found this podcasthelpful, please consider subscribing
so that you never miss an episode.
Also, leaving a review canhelp others find the show and receive
the guidance they need ontheir journey through grief.
I appreciate your feedback andlook forward to hearing from you
all.
Join my free online support community.
For those grieving and connectwith others.
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Who understand what you'regrateful going through.
I offer you a spiritualblessing and hope you will join me
on the next episode.
Till then, open your mind and allow.
The power of the divine to transform.
Your grief to spiritual realization.
God Bless.
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