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Miss Pinup Miami (00:05):
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have various to these twospecial gentlemen you see if
you're watching on YouTube. Ihave the umbrella fellows on
Instagram by the umbrellaunderscore fellows is Josh and
(01:54):
Alec How are you? Awesome.
Unknown (01:59):
Awesome.
How are you?
Miss Pinup Miami (02:01):
I'm good. Are
we surviving that Florida heat?
Unknown (02:05):
Oh my gosh.
Can right early early summeralready?
Miss Pinup Miami (02:12):
If you guys
have never heard of these two
amazing men, they make the mostfabulous parasols. Well, that's
the first piece I ever saw ofthem. They've also done fans.
And it's like, very detailed,like brushwork on these paper
parasols that you're just amazedthat you don't even know they're
real parasols, like youquestioned it at first, and then
you see them in person and thenit's like, this is legit. Tell
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us a little bit about yourselvesand, and your art and how you
got into it. I'd be intrigued toknow that.
Unknown (02:42):
I'm okay. It was like
five questions. Oh, sorry. bout
myself. Um, I'm Josh. And I wasjust that kid. You know what I
mean? I was always I was alwayspainting drawing, you know, I
would. I remember going to themovie theaters with my parents
(03:04):
when I was a little kid. And thefirst thing I would do is I
would run home, I'd run up to myroom. And I had to like draw out
the characters. I wanted to draweverything that I saw in the
movie, but I forgot while it wasfresh in my mind. I just like
exit Right, exactly. Not superlong. Not but long enough before
Google. But I mean, I yeah, Ijust I was never the athletic
(03:29):
type. I was very artsy. And thenI mean, that just kind of stuck
all the way through adulthood.
You know? Andwhat about you? Yeah, I'm Alec.
Pretty much the same story.
They're always drawing. Mygrandfather spent a lot of time
with me like looking atnewspaper cartoons and stuff
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like that. We try and mimicthose type drawings. It was just
always a passion for me that ledlater in life. I use my creative
outlet. I'm an Oculus. I makefalse eyes and facial
prosthetics
Miss Pinup Miami (04:04):
is a living.
That's what you do with thedetails.
Unknown (04:09):
I'm very detail
oriented in the painting and
stuff like that Josh is verygestural. So when we sit down to
do something, it really is agood blend of the two townlands
he can go and quick and dobrushstrokes and then I go in
after and kind of layer thefinal stuff. But let us compare
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ourselves though. We startedgoing to dapper day. Which then
the first time we went webounded
Yeah, we did the Disney van. Wewent as Carl and Russell from
Disney's up. And we knew thatgoing into it. It was like
spring. We're like we definitelywant to have something that
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protects from the sun and mygrandma had skin cancer. Really
bad. At one point she had like,I mean, she had to get a whole
skin grab everything. So it'sclose to me that we need to get
out of sign. He deals with itbecause of work in his
prosthetics, hesees a lot of daily Yeah, with
that it has Canadians in hereoutside, especially in theme
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park, stuff like that. We seepeople that are burnt so badly.
Not only is it art that you cancarry around, but it has a
purpose or a function. So like,protect yourself and look good,
right? You do it? Well, Imean, if even like the very
first one, when I designed it,it was like, Oh, I'm like I had
the idea. Like, we should take aparasol with something outside.
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And then a couple days later,I'm like, why would we just take
a parasol and like, I'm going toget one payment. And then the
thought behind it was to paintsomething on it that kind of
helps show what we were going asthey went with our theme and our
idea. So that was the very firstone.
And sure what questions weanswered there. Right.
Miss Pinup Miami (05:57):
You answered
the questions. But I'm curious
when you started, you know, whenyou started painting and being
creative with like, your art,what was the first medium you
use? Did you like crayons?
pencils with did you go straightto watercolors? Uh, I don't
know. I'm not an artist.
Unknown (06:15):
is a kid definitely
crazy. It's the first thing.
Right? I feel like right, thebig pack a sharpie on the back.
Miss Pinup Miami (06:27):
of the markers
that had sense to them. Yes.
They were so fun.
Unknown (06:33):
reminiscing. I love it.
Right, but I feel like then thateven as a kid that went into
like colored pencils with morecontrol. And then I mean, it
went mainly for paint for me.
(06:54):
And then I did acrylic andwatercolor. You were really good
at watercolor ever.
Definitely not. I would preferacrylic over watercolor or oil.
I like the thought of if I don'tlike what I did, I can go right
back over it. The thought ofwatercolor once you touch the
paper and it kind of soaks in.
Right That's about it. Same withoil. I don't have the patience
(07:15):
to kind of wait for it to dryand layer it. I'd rather if I
have to get the hairdryer out.
Start over
Miss Pinup Miami (07:24):
kind of paint
is it I see some people on tik
tok that make artwork that'slike texture good. Like the
paint looks so thick, but theydo it on purpose to like, I
don't know what kind of paint isthat Do you know
Unknown (07:35):
different viscosities
we don't use a heavy viscosity
even acrylic paint. You can't dothat to get texture which later
on I hope we discuss kind ofsome future ideas that we're
having. Because we do have ascanner now. So we can paint and
scan something in to pick upthat detail. So having layers or
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thickness to the paint wouldcome across that way. And the
parasols that are printed
Miss Pinup Miami (08:04):
and now
something else that came and
really you guys talking aboutdapper day is your style. You
guys are like on point all thetime when you guys now look at
that bow tie and I don't knowthose are suspenders. Yes. How
did your style evolve to how youlook today cuz you're always so
put together even with yourdapper day looks. And they match
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perfectly with your yourparasols, your artwork, you
could really see the detail thatyou guys put into it, but how I
want to know a little bit ofyour evolution into this. Okay,
Unknown (08:34):
well first of all,
thank you for noticing all the
details
Miss Pinup Miami (08:39):
of the tie you
guys like the little hidden
colors and
Unknown (08:44):
it's appreciated. I
feel like most people like when
they pass it. Oh, you lookreally good.
Miss Pinup Miami (08:51):
I appreciate
it cuz I make my I like to make
my own clothes. So I put detailinto my own
Unknown (08:58):
shirt. Um,
right, I always liked I've
always been that person. I don'twanna say kid like, even like
maybe late high school andcollege. I was always that kid
that maybe like dressed a littletoo up for what was going on.
You know what I mean? Like therewas one I remember, at one point
in college, I like showed up forlike one of our like exams or
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something and like I might havebeen wearing like suspenders in
the button or something, youknow what I mean? And it was a
little over the top it soundslike like you're like really
dressed up like What's theoccasion I'm like, any day could
be the case if you want it to beand they're like, Oh my god, so
like to live by. But I feel likeI just always liked kind of be
(09:41):
old, especially when you thinkmore like vintage clothing
especially for medicine likethat. You get more kind of time
and like fun to play with it andyou can layer things and there's
more elements to it than justlike oh, I'm putting on this T
shirt or pants. So I feel likefor me It definitely started You
know, way back in high school.
(10:02):
And when it comes to, I thinkour looks that we'll do for a
Pearsall's, there's kind of likemarriage with the design of the
parasol and our style. Everyparasol that we do, I start by
designing a computer, I have atablet that I drawn on the
computer. And then that way,it's easier to kind of edit and
(10:23):
change things around and makesure it make sure we like make
sure we like it, make sure thateverything fits inside a circle.
And then you always have thatlike weird thing right in the
center where it doesn't meet,you're gonna miss the
opportunity to paint something.
Miss Pinup Miami (10:37):
I didn't think
about that. I just thought you
guys went straight on to theparents.
Unknown (10:41):
I mean, it's like,
Really? I mean,
there's a lot of plan.
Yeah, for paintbrush touchesthat yes, I design the entire
thing. We get kind of a colorscheme going like even if we
maybe do a couple like quickpaint sketches like to say like,
Okay, do we like this colorpalette, before we actually
touch the parasol itself. Andthen once we get into that
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process, then we even start tomaybe put a look together if
that means shopping, you know,just a clothing store, maybe an
antique place, or even gettingsomething online. And then so as
those elements show up, then theparasol can still change a
little bit. You know what Imean? Like we will, he'll he's
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really good at mixing colors tomatch something perfectly. So if
there's an element that we'rewearing the bow tie pants, we
can make it perfectly fit likeoh, it's not like that's a
burgundy. inasa Burgundy,they're the exact burgundy.
So it matches. Exactly if that'swhat we decided to do, right?
Miss Pinup Miami (11:41):
Like, I know,
I feel like I need to have a red
carpet when I see you guys. CuzI'm like, that's like really, I
saw appreciate that becauseaesthetically, I knew everything
had a look but just hearing itjust makes me like, love you
guys even more. And also, that'swhy I mean, when I first met you
I the one of the looks that Idid the weekend that I first met
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you guys was actually inspiredby your Instagram. I know I told
you that when I met you, but myMickey Mouse like my Steamboat
Willie skirt that I painted. Ididn't I didn't follow those
steps, but I just straight onwith a pencil and then I was
like, paint over the pencil. Butthat was inspired by you guys.
(12:26):
And so, you know, I really thinkyou've also influenced other
people and other people havebought your art at the park they
see some dapper day. I thinkthis recently you did one for
like the Muppets. No,
Unknown (12:38):
yes. Um, I don't know
if they brought it to this
dapper day. They felt they tookit to the dapper day, last fall,
which then was like kind ofduring the whole Coronavirus
thing. So we weren't able tomake it to that one. But it was
really interesting. Then wepainted that for them. And then
they took that with them. So I'mlike, even though we didn't get
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to go like a piece of us stillwas there. You know, it
Miss Pinup Miami (13:03):
was I love the
colors.
Unknown (13:06):
They wanted for bright
reference to the vehicle. Yeah.
That's kind of another thing. Iguess, in our own work. We can
do whatever we want. We're notlicensed with anybody. So in the
work that we do for somebodyelse, there has to be only so
much that we can put in there somuch of a reference. So they
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might lead us in a direction orsay, here's what we're thinking.
And then we had to kind of alterthings so that it gets the point
across close enough. Right, butdoesn't get us a phone call.
Mouse the mouse
Miss Pinup Miami (13:41):
calling you.
Unknown (13:43):
Yeah.
Miss Pinup Miami (13:44):
And you've
also done your art. I'm because
I'm sticking to the dapper dayon parasols. Did you find that
easier? Harder, it's a smallercanvas or
Unknown (13:54):
parasols parasol
Miss Pinup Miami (13:56):
fan, I'm
sorry, I'm here, like a fan. And
I meant
Unknown (14:03):
the I wouldn't say it's
harder or easier. It's just for
all of it. It's terrible.
Challenge, right. It's just soespecially, I mean, you think
we've what we met in our school,we went to art school, we're
like, oh, we'd like painting onevery surface you could possibly
imagine painting on but there'sso much texture and folding to a
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parasol and a fan. That is likeand then especially when there's
maybe a face involved then youhave to make sure that it's
right because at this angle thathold could really make somebody
look relevant either together.
So I mean it's just it's notYeah, it's not I mean, it's not
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terrible. We love doing itobviously but it's definitely a
completely different challengebut I never considered I would
be dealing with with artwork.
Miss Pinup Miami (14:54):
And how does
it does the fan like I always
use fans and it pops open withthe paint does it open normally
You guys like, watch that are wewe've run
Unknown (15:04):
across that problem
with everything, including the
parasol. So as far as what we'vebeen doing for the fans for
customers, is we found more ofkind of the fan that they don't
fold. They just have kind of thebamboo stem that you hold. And
then it's just kind ofconstantly open with their
glamorous, yes.
It's just kind of, there'sadvantages and disadvantages, I
(15:25):
guess to each thing. We wereeven saying to people you have
to expect even if you paint iton a regular Canvas, and you
took it off the stretchers, andyou fold it in a million
different times and unfolded, itrefolded it for the day, there's
going to be wear and tear on andthat kind of led them to if we
can take our paintings and putit on digitally, then you don't
(15:47):
run into the issue of the actualpaint cracking, we can now do
mass products, which lowers theprice instead of spending so
much time on one custom piece,we can offer it at a better deal
and easier to get toor when something gets printed.
Instead, it is made to then foldyou know, the umbrella, the fan,
(16:09):
the parasol whatever it is, issublimated into the fabric.
Exactly, yeah, exactly. So aswe, as our business kind of
continues and evolves here, thegold is a main product will be
stuff that we have done and thenhad printed, we have some
examples. Or we will still offerhandpainted stuff to people for
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a higher price. If they wantsomething like legit custom, but
I mean again, they're going tobe made aware like this is going
to crack this is going to wherethis is going to you know so
that's the advantage anddisadvantage.
Miss Pinup Miami (16:46):
And love you
example Allah gave, if you take
it out of a canvas and you startfolding it even with the dress
that I told you that I paintedthe back if I when I opened it
up the other day, I was alreadylike putting scanning I even
tried spraying scotch guard onit happens because it is a
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fabric and it moves and it's notmeant for that. But you know, I
want to know, I would love toknow your guys's reaction when
when when you see umbrellafellows popping up on people's
Instagram. I that would be Ican't imagine the feeling of
seeing somebody like I wouldlove to make custom dresses, but
I can't imagine somebody elsewearing it and be like, Oh my
(17:27):
god, I made that. How do you howdoes that get you giddy?
Unknown (17:31):
I'm getting.
But yeah, for me, it's like eventhe the last everything we just
had as we're driving home afterthat weekend, like I was just an
emotional mess. Like, I mean,people are like running up to
us, like people have our productand people other people running
up to us like we follow you onInstagram. Can I get a picture
with you? And I'm like, I'mcrying the whole way home. I'm
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like, this is like, this is likethis crazy, surreal dream. And
it's just it's insane.
One girl even was so excited.
She's like, Oh, I'm so glad tomeet you. And I was so excited
because you liked one of myphotos.
very surreal. It's so surreal.
It really is.
Miss Pinup Miami (18:14):
I think what
makes it so surreal, at least
for me, when somebody sees me inpublic and they've seen me
online or something. It's thefact that like they're
appreciating something thatyou're so passionate about. You
could tell that you guys lovethis. And it's like when
somebody compliments you didn'tthink much about it because
you're not doing it for theattention. So when they like the
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girl that was so happy that youliked one of her photos like to
her cuz it for you, you're justpassionate you really really
liked it. And for her it waslike oh my god, I these guys are
amazing. You know, I fangirlwhen I met you guys, so it was a
mutual fangirling. So, before weget to your past Well, before we
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get into like your futureprojects, I do have a few
questions that a few of thelisteners asked on Instagram. If
you're ready.
Unknown (19:11):
Yes.
Miss Pinup Miami (19:12):
So what kind
of paint Do you use for your
parasols?
Unknown (19:18):
red paint. It's usually
acrylic. I don't think we've
ever used anything but acrylics.
Oh yeah, there's a primer base.
Right? We'll put it Yeah, cuzmost of them. we've experimented
with both. We've done fabricPearsall's. And then we've also
done paper parasols. Whichagain, kind of like everything
else. There's like pros and consto both the paper, it's a little
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bit more, I mean you can't seethrough it as easy as fabric
obviously. So we don't have toput a primer coat on it. Just
wait. And then the fabric thoughwe definitely have to put a base
coat on first or a pain becausewe made that mistake our very
first one we made. The firstminute we got there we held up
the sun and from behind andthat's all backlit I mean it
(20:01):
looks real funky. So you got tomake sure you kind of get that
base coat before you get
Miss Pinup Miami (20:08):
on the parasol
Unknown (20:10):
Exactly.
allows it because of the weavethe fat or the pink will go
through the fabric. The paperabsorbs it, but when the paper
absorbs, what's your painting?
If you go back over that spotagain, you'll rip right through
it because it's wet paper.
So it's right.
Yeah. Given taken,but acrylic always.
(20:34):
We alwaysdo a clear cut. Right? Yeah, we
have a spray that will clearcoat it
Miss Pinup Miami (20:42):
How long does
it take to dry like before you
guys could fold it
Unknown (20:46):
dry in for acrylics?
Nothing. I mean, especially likesometimes we'll be sitting
there. I mean it, it might takea few minutes, maybe 10 Max,
okay. But a lot of times we'resitting there painting and like
he said earlier, like he's got apaintbrush on one hand, and a
hairdryer and the other is like,let it dry and like, move on.
Miss Pinup Miami (21:03):
So salon day,
right. The next question, what
do you do if it rains with yourparents? So at the parks? Right?
Oh, Brian, you carry a littlebag?
Unknown (21:16):
We know we do. We do
have we always have kind of a
large kind of just regularplastic trash bag just in case.
The last one that we went to acouple weekends ago, we get
there to the park. And it's justlike out of nowhere such as
downpour. We hadn't even leftthe car yet. Yeah, thankfully,
we haven't left the car. So wejust waited there. And then we
(21:38):
waited it out. But I mean,again, they're not designed for
that even a parasol. Regardlessof the hand painted or not a
parasol is more for the sun andnot for rain. It's not an
umbrella. So we Yeah, we justkind of carry stuff around to
keep them safe.
Miss Pinup Miami (21:53):
Yeah, my
boyfriend learned that the hard
way we were I was doing an eventat a Harley Davidson and I said,
Hey, grab my stuff. It wasraining. And what he did was he
opened up the pair so I startedwalking in the rain. I'm like,
that's
Unknown (22:06):
not gonna help.
Miss Pinup Miami (22:08):
He learned he
learned it cuz he thought he
could dry. I'm like, no, it'spaper. It's gonna dry it will be
so crispy. Like, it's gonna belike this. Next question is how
do you find inspiration for yournext look? Ah,
Unknown (22:26):
I knew that was coming.
Like I just had a weird feeling.
Right? Right. I feel likebecause what we do, you watch
Miss Pinup Miami (22:37):
a bunch of
Disney movies and then pick one.
Unknown (22:42):
We don't like to the
very first time that we went to
a dapper day we went like ascharacter bounded as characters.
And that was the very last timethat we ever did that. What we
try to do is we try to go morefor maybe a moment or, like
we're trying to tell the storyof a certain like scene or
something like that. And then asa kid, this goes back to when I
(23:06):
watch the Disney movies. As Igot older once I realized, like
that's artwork that's paintingthat's drawing whatever, I
started to pay attention to thebackground instead of just
watching characters. And so toreally watch an old school
animated Disney movie, it justreally appreciate the
background. I feel like that's alot of times where the
inspiration comes from for me,is I'm like I love that. I love
(23:30):
those colors. I love thatdesign. I love that aesthetic,
the artists that it because Imean, even as you watch them,
they go completely differentfrom one to the other.
Yeah, it allowed a lot morefreedom. Even when we went as
characters, there's only so muchyou can do. When you think of
the whole movie, if you pick onescene, you have every color
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option available, or even weirdcolor options that normally
wouldn't go if you're carryingthe parasol, and they have those
colors somehow in the scene,then your outfit makes sense.
And you can have a lot of funthen mixing and matching
whatever you really want.
There. The last one that we wentto, like I put the outfit on,
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and I'm like, this is theweirdest thing I've ever wore.
I'm like this tie is the mostbizarre thing. But it's like as
soon as I opened the parentsoff, like That's right. That's
why I got this tie on.
Miss Pinup Miami (24:24):
Your story
together, right. The next the
next question. The next questionI have is how do you find your
attire for men? I find it hardto find clothes. I guess that's
somebody their whole How do youshow man?
Unknown (24:44):
Again, I think that's
why it's such a long process
when we do our Pearsall's andwe're doing our looks. I mean,
if we're we probably know whatwe're doing for the next like
year and a half already. Youdon't I mean, like we've planned
that far ahead. Because I thinkit is so difficult for to get
like unique pieces for men. Andthen especially, one of the
(25:07):
biggest things now is kind ofonline. So then you need that
time, you can't wait till theday before to go try it on and
get the story out to have itshipped. And then if you like
it, if it fits, you got to turnup all the plots. But we try to
find as unique as pieces as wecan.
If that even means I can sell alittle bit right enough to get
(25:29):
by. So if there's things that weneed, like a tie, or a vest or
something like that, then we canpick fabric and I can make it to
take go with it. So we have alittle right, leeway. But it's
vintage fine DS.
Yeah, we like to thrift a lotfor our house and for personal
stuff in our style. And we'vewe're usually kind of wearing
(25:51):
some kind of a brooch or somekind of jewelry as well. And
like that's usually found fromthat that's like an old school
antique, like actual vintagethrift find. Yeah.
But as we know, going thriftingyou can't go in there
specifically looking forsomething you have to find. So
once you find it that might kindof alter what your thought was
the outfit. Or like Jeff said,we have five years worth of
(26:15):
ideas, because we happen to findit that day. And if you don't
get it, then it's gone. Youknow, we have quite a collection
Miss Pinup Miami (26:23):
that tie back
to my diversity. I love vintage
chat. So a lot of the dresses ofthat I make for dapper day bait
are based off the hat. I just gooff the hanger, because
Unknown (26:32):
you're gonna have
something to start. Yeah,
yep, you definitely needinspiration to kind of push the
whole thing.
Miss Pinup Miami (26:38):
That was the
next question. Do you style your
outfits first or after yourparasol?
Unknown (26:43):
together? together?
Yeah. Yeah, the first thing iskind of the theme or the, the
design the direction that wewant to go the story want to
tell with it. And then as soonas I start kind of designing and
sketching it out, we're lookingfor pieces, you know, because
it's like, again, like, I mightwe can find a piece that I'm
(27:04):
like, Oh, I would have neverthought this would go with his
shirt. And now I have to workthis color into the parasol or
vice versa. You know? So I mean,it's, I mean, it's completely
simultaneous, and it's at theexact same time.
Miss Pinup Miami (27:17):
And Who, who,
who comes with the ideas first,
you guys do it together.
Unknown (27:30):
I'm more of the design,
and the very early on stages.
Everything that we pretty muchcome up with I design it first,
even if it's a sketch on anapkin, or something like that.
And then like I said, I godigitally. And then once we
start painting, I'm painting thekind of the bigger stuff and
then he's, he's the last secondkind of stuff going on with
other details.
(27:50):
I would say he's also kind oflike the Disney superfan too, so
he's the one to say like, oh,there's a background scene where
for one second and this clip.
I'm like, okay, you know show methat's more me if you show me I
can do it. Coming up with thingsout of my head. That's so good.
Miss Pinup Miami (28:10):
So he he just
leads you to the right road to
come. Yeah.
Unknown (28:16):
Would you ever do.
Miss Pinup Miami (28:18):
Right? Would
you ever do something from
Universal Studios or Marvel?
Unknown (28:23):
We did not yet but we
have gotten to people that for
this upcoming year have askedfor something kind of in the
Marvel superhero universe. Sowe're pretty excited about it.
And like going to the going tothe universal thing to I am like
a huge like dyno geek. So tokind of do something in that
era. You know what I mean? Thatkind of goes maybe the best part
(28:46):
thing for universal like I'm I'mso like itching to do something
like that.
Miss Pinup Miami (28:51):
I'm excited
for the new ride at Universal
the velocity. The next questionis what this might be a hard
question. Especially for you,Scott. I What is your favorite
Disney movie?
Unknown (29:04):
A little mermaid?
Miss Pinup Miami (29:06):
Oh, there you
go. But he's the Disney chance
on like, right, right, right.
Unknown (29:22):
Okay, I have like a
couple different maybe for
different reasons. My first gutreaction though, okay, like it's
nothing it's a hard question. Ijust feel like I'm gonna have
the wrong answer. But it'sthere's no way there's the wrong
hands. Right all the other ones.
Miss Pinup Miami (29:44):
Know when you
watch Disney plus.
Unknown (29:50):
I say one of my tops.
Hands down is Alice inWonderland. I love again as far
as the art goes, I love thecolor. And then even like aside
from Disney, I love I love Alicein Wonderland, the original
lives Carol, like every versionof Alice in Wonderland, I love
it. I love the whole premise ofit is being mad and crazy. I
love that. Um, but then my othergo to would probably have to be
(30:12):
beating the beast. I mean, thatwas just like I was like prime
age when that came out in thetheaters. I remember going to
see it in the theaters. Iremember watching it when I was
a little kid bright when my likebaby sister was born. So I mean,
it's like that one's a big onefor me, too. So somewhere
between Alice and maybe
Miss Pinup Miami (30:34):
my my favorite
is Pinocchio and I one of my
favorite umbrellas that you didthe parasols you did was
Pinocchio, because it wasawesome. your background? And he
had Yeah, you know, yeah. Allthe details. There was
beautiful.
Unknown (30:47):
That was our first that
was ever painted. And then
Yep, and then printed, which wemight write for now. And we're
gonna really because thatmatched your alpha perfectly
that day. I remember correctly.
Miss Pinup Miami (31:02):
My favorite
movie. Next is what's um, what's
your first Disney inspired piecethat you've done?
Unknown (31:12):
on the floor for the
business Pearsall's, that would
have been the one where we did.
It was the first one we wereCarl and Russell and then our
parasol because again, I wantedto make sure people knew what
the story was. So we didparadise falls with Kevin on it.
Miss Pinup Miami (31:30):
Did you take a
picture of
Unknown (31:32):
the houses on their
real tiny house? You did the
chairs? Oh, yeah. Take thatback. It's been a long time.
It's been a couple years.
Miss Pinup Miami (31:41):
Did you take a
picture with Kevin? I don't
know. He's an animal kingdom,right?
Unknown (31:45):
Yeah. Yep. And that's,
that's the other thing that as
we're doing this more and more,as soon as we figure out like,
we've got a couple of yearsworth of ideas and outfits,
everything put together andready to go not ready to go but
planned. But depending on whatwe find out what Park things are
gonna be at that year, it couldcompletely change which one
we're going to carry, you know,and that would have been kind of
(32:08):
one of those examples. Like,that was our first one ever that
we've done. So we didn't reallythink of that. But now we're
more aware of like, Hey, doesthis make sense to go to this
park or animal kingdom or MagicKingdom? or fall or spring?
Exactly. Or even like theseasons, right? Like the color
palette that we wear has to dowith the season that it is? So
it's a process?
Miss Pinup Miami (32:29):
How do you
store your parasols?
Unknown (32:31):
Well, you're right.
We have them, right. We havethis. In the bedroom, we have
this like hush that's got the TVin it. And so it closes. And
it's like it used to like it hasall the Disney movies,
Miss Pinup Miami (32:48):
VHS or DVD.
Unknown (32:50):
But they're right.
They're just they're literallyjust stacked up on top of the
right now. I mean, we've gotthem folded down and you just
see all the ends of all thePearsall's. That's it right now.
Miss Pinup Miami (33:02):
What are your
role models? In our Do you have
any inspirational artists thatyou are your role models?
Unknown (33:15):
I don't know. For me,
the fun of it is picking up on
little pieces from each artist.
I don't ever want to just mimicsomeone per se, that's kind of
the fun even when we're doingDisney stuff to think outside
the box. Don't just copy a scenethat, you know, everybody knows
we try to think of somethingelse. But throughout our I would
say just picking up on thedifferent things that people do
(33:40):
well, we like experimentingalso. So if it's like we're
doing a pop art piece, thenwe're going to look up
inspiration, see what was done.
Or we might go all the way toArt Nouveau and pick up styles
from that. It's kind of everevolving and and what we find
inspiration and changes and thenthe style lends itself to
(34:02):
something completely different.
So I can't really say thatthere's an artist
rises even for me like it's not.
It's not necessarily likesomebody in particular. But I
feel like I've always reallybeen drawn to, like the people
that like I like that their workis insanely detail oriented,
because that's not me. You know,I remember even like back in
(34:23):
high school. We were at a fieldtrip or something at a museum
and teacher asked like, what wasyour favorite piece and like
this one over here? And they'relike, well, that's really weird,
because that's nothing like youraesthetic. That's not how you
paint at all. And like probablywhy Island, like, otherwise I
would just say mine like thefinish line. You know what I
(34:43):
mean? But it's like to have thatappreciation for something that
like I could never do that ican't i don't know the focus or
the you know what I mean? Thetechnical skills to get in there
really tiny, which is again, Ithink why we work so well
together and I appreciate thisstuff because he gets detail.
I can think something similar tothat. Like I love a Rothko
(35:04):
painting. But that's not me.
They're just born bright colorslayered on top of each other and
block form is not something thatI do but I appreciate what was
done all the way down toMichelangelo Caravaggio, back in
the Renaissance, where theystarted to learn tenebrae ism
and using the dark colors andversus a light of holding a
candle or how the skin wouldlisten or something like that. I
(35:28):
appreciate that, too. So hugespectrum there
Miss Pinup Miami (35:33):
and made you
get into your own bubble. Right?
Yeah, yeah. Do you have anyfavorite pieces of your own?
Like, do you guys have your ownfavorite of what you've done? I
know that's a hard question.
Unknown (35:48):
Right. I like my last
one the most because it was a
little mermaid.
I would say my favorite is Ithink it was a year ago, the I
did the kind of sleepingbeauties Castle in the
background. It was the I calledthe peace Once Upon a Dream,
because it was kind of thatmoment, you guys Sleeping
(36:09):
Beauty, Aurora and Philip kindof dancing in the background.
But it was still mainly focusedon the scenery. And again, it's
not from my favorite movie, butI say that maybe Sleeping Beauty
has my favorite background art.
You know, I mean, the, theattention to detail in that,
that you know, the classic likesquare trees. Like, I just I
love that so much. Right?
(36:32):
Exactly, exactly. So I told him,I'm like, I'm like, I'm doing
this what I'm doing SleepingBeauty. So I hope you're ready
to pay some details.
Always.
Miss Pinup Miami (36:40):
Now, this is a
random question, because this is
my question for Alec like, Okay,I'm so curious, because I didn't
know that you made the eyes? Howhamat? Like you what kind of
paint or what how did this in aquick synopsis? How does it
making you color that like? Idon't understand, like, how does
that work,
Unknown (36:58):
um, again, very, very
detail oriented. Everything that
I'm spending time painting is inthe size of a penny. It's all
hand done. So people expect itto look like their other eye.
That's the whole goal. Sothere's high expectations there.
But it is it's it's differentthan Canvas painting or painting
(37:21):
on the parasol, that form ofpaint, you mix your color and
you lay it on and, and you canbuild it up that way. With an
eye. You're painting on a flatdesk, but you want life in it.
So there's little layers thatare almost translucent are see
through and you have to build upthat texture. So that it does
come to life and all thosecolors are in in layers.
Miss Pinup Miami (37:44):
That's so
interesting.
Unknown (37:47):
Yeah, it's a lot of
fun. I mean, and it was a
passion of mine to to usesomething that I'm good at
creative at in a way that helpspeople. So the paracels prevent
maybe skin cancer, so you don'tlose your nose and he had to
come see me so that
Miss Pinup Miami (38:08):
it's a well
rounded business you guys are
getting into. I used to be Iused to be a embalmer. And the
joke was that my sister was anurse. So if he she killed them,
they'd come to me. So theythought it was
Unknown (38:24):
our you know, somebody
will take care.
Miss Pinup Miami (38:27):
There you go.
Now the last question is do youwhat do you guys have for the
future? Like any anything youwant to tell or show? I don't
know.
Unknown (38:37):
Yeah, we don't have to
show
up to show like just for ourpersonal ones, or like the whole
like,business, hopefully. Yeah. Okay.
Again, the main push for us nowis figuring out how to get
something that's accessible tothe people. So more so than just
(38:58):
the rare custom painting, wewant something that's available
in a decent price that peoplecan afford and have fun carrying
around. So that took us topainting on a flat surface,
running it through a highresolution scanner, and then
being able to put that on theparasol that led us to not only
digital, purely digital workthat we can put on there fairly
(39:24):
quick for a good price and ourpaintings that will also be
printed. So there's a lot offans are
still something that we're likelooking into as we speak.
Yeah, different designs. Whoknew there were 20 million
different kinds of fans.
Printing opens up the wholerange. It doesn't matter how
(39:44):
folds. Now, we don't have to beworried about that. Right?
waterproof. We're looking atmaybe umbrellas, right versus
get a little bit more use of it.
Right or offer all Little bitpeople can pick and choose. So
there's a lot of research anddevelopment also on finding out
(40:06):
what works best what holds up.
But I feel like to come back tothe question in a way, is I feel
like what we're gonna eventuallyend up doing is probably just
maybe carrying more of ouractual product or, you know what
I mean? Like I, what I wouldlike to do is release things,
our products in collections. Solike, every time we go out, we
(40:28):
go to the family got toAberdeen, we got whatever we're
going out, we're gonna be like,these are our Pearsall's they're
dropping next month. You knowwhat I mean? So, as the time
goes on, yeah, it's kind of apreview. So it's not just, I
mean, we'll probably still bedoing our hand payments for us
for the parks and stuff likethat. But a lot more of it, I
(40:49):
think is going to be goingtowards the product that we are
able then to share with people alot easier.
Stuff opened and get into theart. Yeah, yep. The festival.
Epcot.
Miss Pinup Miami (41:03):
Oh, yeah, you
guys need a booth there at the
Art Festival. I'm just saying.
Unknown (41:08):
Yes, man. Yeah, we've
been reached out to so and then.
Super Corona hit. So it's been ayear.
But it's given us time to dokind of that research and stuff.
We were approached what oursecond, our second, your second
time showing our Pearsall'sthere. And it's like we're
figuring all this out. It'sgreat to sell it to the public,
(41:31):
but we don't know how things aregonna hold up or react to
different environments and stufflike that. So we have had extra
time I guess a blessing and itwould be that we gain some I get
it right. To you have learnedthrough trial and error.
Exactly. Right. Exactly.
Miss Pinup Miami (41:49):
So how about
in the personal side? Your
projects? Personal
Unknown (41:54):
personal side? We got
humming
Miss Pinup Miami (41:56):
okay. Yeah, I
want to keep it a surprise. But
how are the outfits going? Howare the How is the hunt for the
fall dapper day? Or is thatalready set?
Unknown (42:09):
files? pretty sad? Oh,
it's pretty sad. Um, so we
haven't started painting but Ithink outfits are ready to go
and designs are good. Um, butmine is going to be themed. Like
I say exactly what it is. MaybeBut well,
Miss Pinup Miami (42:26):
don't say you
don't have to say you just just
tease so that everyone
Unknown (42:34):
I mean, you've seen
like I'll put up snippets all
the time on Instagram like I ama big tease.
Miss Pinup Miami (42:40):
When you
posted pictures of before you
guys went to dapper day. Right?
The umbrella closed and right.
Is anybody supposed to guess butit's like intriguing because you
want to guess so.
Unknown (42:52):
I'm one of my looks
because we there's the whole
weekend but one of my books forFall is going to be a movie that
takes place in London. Um, andthen I don't know maybe kind of
animal as well like there's alittle bit of that kind of
animal element that one of theone of the vintage antique
(43:13):
pieces that I found as far as towear which I'm excited about is
I found a kind of for like coloradd on to like or yeah I think
so for to like put on to thelapel of my blazer to add that
again that like elements of likelayers and texture and all good
(43:33):
stuff.
What are my mine Yeah. Minesvery much. So in the beginning
stages, it's a little harder forme I don't know if this is like
too personal or not, but Ifluctuate in my weight a lot.
Oh, join theit's hard for me to plan that
(43:54):
far in advance because I'm notsure what I might fit in at that
point. I was I have a fullcloset of stuff that's my like,
Oh, I hope someday but I had tolearn to dress for now. I want
to be comfortable, I want tolook good, how I look now. So my
stuff might take a little evencloser to the date of because I
(44:15):
want to be comfortable at thepoint that I am with my body.
Miss Pinup Miami (44:22):
I understand
completely when I make my
dresses under two in advance. Ileave it open in the back so I
don't put a zipper or anythingin case I need to tuck um, just
because things fluctuate orsince I also do wear court I do
wear corsets all the time. Solike depending on which one I'm
wearing, it's different and whatI decide like when I went to the
(44:43):
Disney Parks like I wear alighter corset and that's a
thing and then to work I wearsomething else so it just
depends so I just before Idecide what I'm going to do, I
just leave it open and then Iput the zipper and close the
dress so it's like a flat dressand then put it together.
Unknown (45:00):
tailored perfectly to
your body.
Miss Pinup Miami (45:06):
Let's see some
of your pieces. Okay.
Unknown (45:09):
So one of our first
pieces that we're going to be
putting out with probably oursecond batch product, this will
be this has been completely handpainted. So it was hand painted,
and then we've printed it. Sothe hand painted, is here.
Miss Pinup Miami (45:29):
I love the
colors.
Unknown (45:32):
So it was gonna have to
go to the YouTube channel now,
but we got this car. We got somelittle parents in the
background, a lot of detail thatagain, Alec went in and kind of
created pattern with theleafing. And then we've already
got this one kind of a sampleprinted on the parents. All
(45:55):
right,
Miss Pinup Miami (45:56):
that's a
beautiful is that like silk? Or
kind of
Unknown (45:59):
this one? Yes, this one
is a fabric one. Yes.
Miss Pinup Miami (46:02):
Gorgeous.
Unknown (46:10):
Beautiful.
So we finally like we found aplace that prints really good
quality is high enough, you knowwhat I mean resolution, because
we're still painting on a verylarge scale, compared to what we
normally paint on sitting at atable. But painting flat is so
much easier than painting on aparasol directly. layers.
Miss Pinup Miami (46:32):
You don't even
have to do two layers of paint,
like you usually do
Unknown (46:37):
a base coat on, just
get it going. But then the very
first collection we're going todo, we had a couple of the
pieces at dapper day. And thispast APA day, and they were all
strictly digital. So theyweren't hand painted. First, I
designed them all digitally. Andthen we had them printed. And
(46:57):
kind of the loose theme of themagain, because we're not
licensed or anything. But it'skind of each individual Disney
park. So one of the ones that Ihad, it was a castle and the
whole thing is based on all thefairy tales, you know, it's not
anything very Disney specific,but it's all just your classic
fairy tales that I mean,everybody knows every version.
(47:21):
And then the other one we hadthe other one we had, it is up
on the Instagram. But then thisis totally digital.
Miss Pinup Miami (47:31):
And I didn't
know what digital digital. I
love that one. I think I evencommented that I love
Unknown (47:42):
we got it. We got a lot
of people that love this one
night. This one. Yes, this onewas based on the California
Adventure, which we've neveractually been to never been to
California. But it was fun totry to pick the pieces again
without doing like actual Disneystuff to say how do we embody
the park? But then how do wealso not make it so specific
(48:02):
that this has to be a Disneything? You know, I mean, so I
feel like opening the pinupcommunity, but also like what we
do,
Miss Pinup Miami (48:11):
yeah. Car Show
cuz I'm always like, that's my
thing. Yeah. And I saw that one.
That's why I was like, That'samazing.
Unknown (48:21):
Seriously, like, as we
were like, even in the process
of designing that one, we wouldlike be on Instagram. And then
you're putting a picture at acar. So I'm like she needs our
parasol. But she doesn't existyet.
Yeah.
What we're trying to do is as wedesign things is create like so
what I'm working on right now isa fan that kind of goes with the
(48:44):
kind of the California parasol,but it takes it a little bit of
a different direction. So itkind of still has that like
retro feel to it. But then maybeif you're going with a group of
people, you're all kind of doingthis cohesive look together, you
can get different pieces. Likeshe's got the fan, he's got the
parasol. I mean, we're talkingmaybe potentially in the future,
future future, maybe printing onlike scarves, maybe having sewn
(49:07):
into like bow ties for menpocket squares. Because I mean,
we're just we wanted to be, wewant to be able to, again, we're
trying to create a story justlike we do with our paracels
that we paint take. So if you'redoing something as a group, you
can pick different elements ofdifferent maybe even collections
that we put out, and it cancreate an entire story.
Miss Pinup Miami (49:30):
And that's I
think that you guys are just
like gonna explode. You know, Ihonestly say that with all
sincerity. It's because it'sfrom the art you could do
anything like you know, you'vejust it's like a snowball
effect. You know, you know, atleast from a car show like I
know I would love that parasol.
A fan is super hot. You know, itcould go into scarves like it's
(49:51):
like, you can even get into likeart or you know your art but in
Art Deco that's very detailedfor art deco weekends, because
you guys have such a suchsophistication in your art that
that could see that in thatscene. So there's like I feel
like there's so much you guyscould do and I can't I can't
wait to be part of the journeyjust watching you guys.
Unknown (50:12):
right you're a huge
part of it. Thank you again for
having us on here. It just helpseverything we actually we have
there is one that we've beenworking on they will be part of
the first collection that is artdeco. Because the Yes, the first
collection that's thevision, right?
You get it you get this thefirst collection is not just
(50:35):
based on the parks, but eachparasol is a different kind of
time period apart. So we have wehave cave paintings is one of
them. We have Art Nouveau whichis very which was the Magic
Kingdom one that I carried. Soit's very romantic and it lends
itself to fairy tales andfantasy which is kind of like
(50:58):
1890s to like early 19 hundred'sart we have an art deco piece
that is the 20s obviously theCadillac one is our pop, which
kind of 50s and 60s and then wehave a 81 as well which is kind
of that like graphic like brightneon colors. So again, they're
(51:20):
one collection but each onestands differently very on its
own and then I think it kind ofadds Jimmy we've we've met in
our school we've taken ourhistory we you know what I mean?
Like we have an appreciation forall these different types and
style of art righttake the little bits and pieces
the best of each thing and tryand use it
Miss Pinup Miami (51:40):
I'm impressed
but not impressed because I know
you guys are awesome you know Ido you have any questions that
you'd like to ask me
Unknown (51:53):
Oh yeah, you know
you're going to carry our
parasol Yes,
Miss Pinup Miami (52:04):
yes yes yes
Unknown (52:05):
yes. Yes
Miss Pinup Miami (52:06):
I'm gonna be
like the spokesperson like here
you go guys ordering fellowscalm
Unknown (52:14):
here's Okay, here's
maybe a question is as somebody
that I mean you've done thedatabase you've done the Disney
thing but coming from then thelike pinup culture as well. What
is something that you would liketo see from us
yes from us to help us out
Miss Pinup Miami (52:31):
yeah from from
you guys. I would say more like
I love Disney but more of likethe car for me I didn't even
think Disney I just thoughtright car like Now I see why you
did the California Adventure butthose pieces like that that are
for car shows or for everydaywear or you know cuz I dress
like this all the time butthere's a lot of ladies that
(52:52):
follow me that dress pinup orvintage inspired all the time it
would be mostly based on thingthat is able to like how the car
one I keep going back to thatone but something that could go
at all yeah versatile. Yesbecause it does anyone is I mean
I guess cuz I'm not such a hugeI be like Alec I'm not a huge
(53:14):
Disney fan. I do enjoy it and Ienjoyed dapper day so much and I
enjoy the movies but foreveryday wear I'd like something
more different. That's why withother that's why your artwork
that you're saying that is not Iknow it's not license. It's
still beautiful because it's notDisney but it's it's it's so
bright, vibrant. Like thatparrot is gorgeous. I could see
(53:37):
that like right here in SouthBeach or anywhere. Um, pieces
like that that I find amazing.
And Art Deco because Art Decoweekend is from I always attend
Art Deco weekend, I've alwayswanted to go to the Jazz Age
long party in New York, which isa big deal over there. I don't
know if you ever heard of it.
Look it up. It's by Derek DavidR and Ella in his band. They put
(54:03):
up this whole weekend and it'slike, everyone dresses to the
tee very Art Deco. And that'swhere I can imagine your flags.
That's why flags your parentshome. That's what I mentioned.
There. Yeah, so that's how Icould see it.
Unknown (54:26):
I've loved the use of
art deco because like I said, we
have one of these that's kind ofour deco wish or one of the
parks say that that's probablylike one of my favorite like
style here is like I just lovethe lines and everything. So I
Miss Pinup Miami (54:44):
can see
there's our deck. Right, so I'll
send you the link of thoseevents. And anyone who's
interested I'll put it in thedescription because those are
really fun events. So I want tosay thank you guys so much for
being on the podcast. It'shonestly an honor for me. have
you here and talk and get tolearn more about you guys, you
know?
Unknown (55:05):
It really was an honor.
It'sjust a part of you willing to
talk with us. Kind of get outthere, what our passion is and
what we're doing.
Miss Pinup Miami (55:23):
Well, I'm sure
you've affected a lot of people
with your art inspired. So staytuned and I will listen to you
all next week. Have a fabulousday.