Former Special Forces Soldier & Ex-MMA Athlete on Energy Management, Sleep, and Peak Performance | Tim Thomas (EP 142) - Playing Injured

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SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
Today's episode is all about authenticity.
It's all about energy, beingreal with yourself and others.
My guest is Tim Thomas, whojoins us all the way from
Australia.
He's a former Special Forcessoldier, a former MMA athlete,
and now helping people andbusinesses get their energy back

(00:27):
through it.
Better sleep and breath work.
We dig into what it means to betruly authentic in a world full
of noise and how being real canliterally recharge your life.
We talk about how many of us areliving on that power save mode
or that low battery mode,retired, disconnected, running

(00:49):
low, and how to get back tobeing what Tim calls energetic
millionaires, feeling like amillion bucks and sharing that
frequency with the world.
We unpack the link betweenfatigue, isolation, and purpose
and how real connection can pullyou out of that fog.
Tim is also the founder of theBreathwork in Bed app, something

(01:12):
that I've personally downloadedmyself, and I've been excited to
use it.
And we actually go through somebreathwork exercises mid-podcast
for you to actually take some ofthose exercises and use for
yourself.
I can tell you right now, I feltamazing after doing some of

(01:34):
those breath work exercises.
This episode definitely hitshome.
Like I said, it breaks downisolation, managing your energy
instead of your time, and livinglife with more power, presence,
and peace.
Let's dive in.
I always loved starting a showwith who is Tim and how does he

(01:54):
spend his time today?

SPEAKER_00 (01:57):
Good question.
I would define myself as a verymotivated dyslexic.
So through school, they didn'tknow what dyslexia was, so I was
just called stupid.
And so I had to work extra hard,even just to pass, right?
So I had to have triple the workrate just to get a standard sort

(02:18):
of grade.
But then when I startedrealizing that dyslexia is a bit
of a superpower in patternrecognition, that's when things
started really shifting for me.
So the pattern I've seen happenin this world, and the reason
I'm here, Josh, is that there'ssuch a lack of authenticity in

(02:40):
this world.
Yeah.
Okay.
Most of the information isprovided by marketers.
First six pages of Google aremarketers.
And what I found is if you canif you can genuinely be
authentic with people, itcreates a space where it's like
their internal compass justswitches on and they know where
to go.
It's like this magic, right?

SPEAKER_05 (03:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
And I thought, well, if it and when you really create
that, it almost doesn't matter,almost doesn't matter what's
said.
People just sort of, it justsort of turns on.
And and I've used that for thelast decade when I'm working
with veterans recovering fromphysical and mental injuries.

(03:23):
I as a as a dyslexic, I saw apattern.
I saw two things that no oneelse saw.
And that was well, I'll go, I'llgo into that in a second.
I don't want to sort of tangenttoo much here, but but who I am
as a person is I see patternsthat other people don't see, and
I get a lot of joy from seeingpeople flourish.

SPEAKER_05 (03:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:48):
So so if you can, you know, get someone out of
fatigue and raise their energylevels, that's like improving
the soil.
And everyone's got these dormantseeds of greatness in them that
are just waiting for the rightenergetic level to then
flourish.
Because people don't need to betold how to flourish.
You just give them the rightamount of energy, the right
environment, and it happensnaturally.

(04:08):
So I get great joy from A,energizing, you know, my own
system and seeing whatflourishes.
But I get a I get so much joyfrom seeing other people
flourish.
So, yes, you know, I I've gotstuff that helps people sleep,
but but the thing that that isfor is to have people see these
awesome seeds of greatness thatoften lie dormant because we're

(04:31):
we're not sleeping properly, weare in fatigue, we're looking
for external sources of energy.
So, to answer your question, I'ma man who's super, I get a lot
of joy from seeing peopleflourish, and I I get joy from
observing my own energy systemsinteracting with the outside
world.

SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
Tim, two things.
One, I grew up struggling withreading, right?
I wouldn't say I had a learningdisability, but I did, you know,
obviously ADHD.
I was super hyper.
Even to this day, I have a tonof energy.

SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Uh your eyes were ahead of the word.
So your eyes were at the end ofthe hill, and then your mouth
was still catching up.
Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 (05:16):
Yes.
So I, even to this day, my mindis always moving.
I lose stuff everywhere, and I'mjust always looking to the next
thing.
And I used to struggle atreading growing up, to the point
where I had to leave theclassroom and go with a reading
teacher outside of class.

(05:38):
And that early message was,okay, I'm a little bit
different.
I'm a little bit slower than therest of the group, right?
Which made me feel invisible tosome degree or less less than in
some degree.
So I understand the feeling offeeling less than.
So one of my most gratifyingfeelings that I can feel now is

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making sure that I make othersfeel amazing about themselves.
So I feel like that's theconnection that you have growing
up, struggling.
You understand the feeling ofstruggling with yourself and
maybe not feeling a part of thegroup or feeling enough.
And so now you want to make surethat others don't feel that way.

SPEAKER_00 (06:24):
Yeah, well said.
So if we've been experiencing avoid of say acceptance, then
when you know the mature aspectof that is helping other people
feel accepted, feel loved, feelconnected, and and and seeing

(06:45):
what's there.
And we to be honest, I don'tknow if I would have that much
skin in the game.
I'm not sure if you would havethat much skin in the game for
other people had we not had thatvoid, you know.
You know, or if I'm if I'mspeaking to veterans, which I do
a lot, I say it very straight.
I think you might not thinkyou're special, but I bet you've
been through some shit.

SPEAKER_05 (07:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:03):
Okay.
And it's our job to turn thatshit into fertilizer.
You know, and it's it's probablytaken you many years to turn
that shit into fertilizer.

SPEAKER_05 (07:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:13):
But but guess what?
That's the amount of time youcan save all those other people
going through the same shit.

SPEAKER_05 (07:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
Yeah.
So that's that's what I justsort of see that you know, these
these things that we couldeasily play victim to, and it's
no fun living in shit, but it'sactually there to help
everything grow.
It really is.
Because and it starts withasking the question how many
other people are in the samesituation?

(07:41):
How many other people becauseeveryone's struggling with
something, whatever it is.
In your case, my case, reading,but there's other people
struggling with you name itphysical, mental, emotional
problems.
And if you ask yourself how manyother people are in that same
situation, and and and give it areal number, like 10, 20, half a

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million, and then and then andthen stack those people left and
right of you because they'rethey're willing you on.
Because if you can make a wayforward for you, you can make a
way forward for them.
And and I and my observation ofus humans, we can do everything
if we feel connected to thosearound us.
But if we feel alone andisolated, everything's hard

(08:25):
because everything is hard.
No one's got my back, so I'vegot to I've got to be
hyper-vigilant.

SPEAKER_05 (08:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
And and and that's the gift we can give others.
That's the qualification peoplehave when they're going through
whatever it is.
You know, you and me werestruggling reading and a
perception.
Other people, it could be, youknow, breast cancer, it could
be, like I said, anything, butyou get then qualified to break
the isolation of all those otherpeople.
And as you make a way forwardfor you, you're making a way

(08:54):
forward for them.
And I always think there's goingto be people in our future that
that are going to be saying, I'mso glad you chose what you chose
back before you met me, becauseyou've just helped me move
forward so much quicker.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
Yeah, 100%.
And you get an opportunity tohelp folks, you know, not go
through that or just tell them,hey, actually, that's that
perception that you have ofyourself is not true.
Right.
And we talk about turning shitto fertilizer, and I'm still in
that stage.
I still am experiencing certainpatterns from my childhood that

(09:31):
still make me seek approval andvalidation, and and I'm still
you know, healing in the in someof those patterns.
And it's amazing to be able torecognize some of those patterns
and still heal them.
But also, too, it's somethingthat you mentioned, right?
You mentioned one, helpingothers, two, understanding your

(09:52):
inner world and the outer world,right?
And so I'm understanding myinner world more and more.
And it's just crazy becausethese outside experiences that I
felt have brought a lot of thosepatterns and a lot of those
parts of myself up so that I canget more attention to that

(10:14):
stuff.
So I want you to go into kind ofwhat you mentioned there, your
inner world and how youexperience the outer world
through your inner world.

SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
So, so well led, Josh.
This is not your first rodeo.
Because I put it to you, yourinner world drew the outer world
to you to the places that youneeded healing.
Okay, so what does that looklike?
I can't walk down the streetwithout some particular person
pissing me off.

(10:44):
Okay, so that's me bringing theoutside world to the part of me
that needs healing.
So if a doctor's wanting to findout what you are, and let's say
you couldn't communicate itproperly, he'd sort of poke
different areas.
And if you went, ow, thatfreaking hurt, and he says,
Well, now we've found where weneed the healing.
Now, and this is what life does,and this is what we do without

(11:06):
knowing it.
And and it's quite a turnaroundto realize that everyone that's
pissed you off in your world,everyone that's hurt you, has
been you creating that, so youcan get healing in that part.

SPEAKER_05 (11:19):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (11:20):
So the outside world is a just a complete mirror to
your own inner world, yeah.
And and once you see it likethat, because I I used to define
myself as you know, there's allthese things outside of me
happening to me, but it was mejust pushing to the surface all

(11:41):
the unworkability inside myself,yeah.
And and when you can see it likethat, all of a sudden, you don't
see it as the doctor trying tohurt you when he's pressing on a
point that actually hurts, it'sactually showing you the places
where you are actually hurting,but you never knew it.
So if you're prepared to leavethe familiar, because I was very

(12:06):
familiar with getting angry atpeople, you know, and I'm pretty
physical guy, I can be veryphysically intimidating.
And I I used to use that to tokeep people at a distance, and I
wouldn't have to learn what Ilearned because I'd I'd I could
get aggressive.
But underneath that was thisplace in me like a like an

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operating system I didn't evenknow was in there.
And and for me to go, you knowwhat, it's not them, it's
actually me.
That was that was the time I gotmy power back, but then I went
into very unfamiliar territory.
And it's it's hard to do foryourself, and it's even harder
if you're in a state of fatigue.

(12:51):
So my first go-to when I'mworking with anybody isn't
talking about like you and I, weoccupy a certain energetic
state, so we can talk about thissort of stuff, and and we get
it, and it goes in, right?
But let's just say you haven'tslept properly in a period of
time, it's really hard toprocess any new information.
So getting people out ofphysical fatigue then gives them

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the energy capital to take onnew concepts.
And and there are there ismillions of dollars spent on
mental health.
But if people are in states offatigue, it's like water off a
duck's back.
If people are in states ofisolation, it's like water off a
duck's back.
And and that's why with withvery little resources, I was

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able to achieve a lifetime goal.
My lifetime goal was a saving 40veteran lives from suicide.
And that was achieved within 12months because of two things I
saw that no one else saw, andand my dyslexic powers saw this.
A people aren't getting theirfatigue, their isolation broken,
and that could be as simple asan authentic conversation around

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what you're up against.
And then B, getting them out offatigue.
It's one thing to breakisolation, but then get actually
get them out of fatigue becauseyour your energy system will
always your mind thinks to thelevel of energy you've got in
your body.
And if this body's saying, hey,I'm tired, I can't do too much,

(14:26):
well, the mind will think, okay,well, we won't aim too high, we
won't do too much, and and we'lltry and protect ourselves, which
which ultimately means I getangry at others when something
doesn't go my way.
So, so those two things to startwith an authentic conversation
with somebody, break theirisolation, get them out of
fatigue, it's just like thismassive shift happened, you

(14:47):
know, and it's not on thespreadsheet.
I don't know of anyone elsethat's talking about this.
But but like I said, one or twoguys a week would come up to me
and say, if it wasn't for thatconversation, if it wasn't for
that, you know, thing we wentthrough, I would have killed
myself.

SPEAKER_01 (15:04):
Yeah, I mean, I was just thinking about that today,
and it's been so many times.
I'm I'm very intentional.
You know, obviously I workremotely.
I could easily stay at home allday and never talk to people,
never interact with people,never feel sun go into my eyes,
right?

(15:25):
Human connection not on ascreen, right?
So it's a lot of folks out therewho do feel that isolation.
And I know I feel the differencewhen I stay at home all day,
don't have any humaninteraction, my fatigue, I feel
fatigued, right?
And not getting sleep as well,you feel that fatigue.

(15:47):
And so it's almost like thatbiology piece.
You talk about like the hardwarefirst to a to an iPhone, right?
To get the iPhone 16, but if yougot iOS one on it, right?
And and so that's the nextpiece, but first you got to get
the the biology right, yourheart, your human hardware right
first, and getting outinteracting with people, even

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feeling that energy is so key.
Because when you're isolated,you got all these thoughts.
And when you're fatigued, right,it's very hard to have good
thoughts, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (16:27):
We naturally look to balance ourselves.
So if we're in fatigue,discomfort, pain, we naturally
seek comfort, and the world'slike, great, this guy's
fatigued, we'll sell him acomfort for a form of comfort
that puts him even more enslavedto things that are outside of
his body.
So I classify everything asstuff that you can do for

(16:48):
yourself and things that youlook for outside of your own
body.
And you know, we'll use theiPhone analogy.
If you never charge your iPhone,you know, it goes flat.
But before it goes flat, it goeson this power saver mode where
you know at 1%, you've only gotso much, so many options

(17:10):
available to you.
And that's a that's a truthfulthing.
On that phone, a power savermode, you can only do so many
things.
And and us humans, we often getinto this power saver mode and
we don't know it.
And we can honestly say toourselves, oh, this is only so
much I can do.
Because yes, that that is onlywhat you can do at 0.5% of your

(17:33):
energy.
So this is why quality sleep,connection to yourself and
others has this impact that youcan't even see right now.
Because when people arefatigued, it's it's very limited
their vision of what they thinkis possible.
And then it can be quitedepressing looking into the

(17:54):
future, thinking, well, I can'tI honestly can't see anything
changing.
And so my passion is showingpeople just how amazing life is
when you're out of that one ortwo percent charge rate.
Yeah.
You know, when you're whenyou're more than 50%.
Heck, imagine if you're morethan 90%.
Yeah, and and and this is thething that the world kind of is

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tilted, the economy's tiltedtowards knowing that it makes
more money from us if we'refatigued and we're looking
outside of ourselves forsolutions.
Because it'll sell you it.
Oh, you got a problem with this?
I'll sell you this.
Yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
You know, as we're talking, I'm thinking about
people talking about timemanagement.
Time management, not a lot ofpeople talk about energy
management, right?
So fatigue, okay.
How can folks have really goodenergy on a day-to-day basis,
right?
Obviously, because I I want toget to sleep, but what are other

(18:54):
things folks can do outside ofsleep to have really good
energy?
Right?
I I feel like naturally myenergy level is always really
good.
I always feel great.
But I would love to hear fromyou.
What what some things do you doto kind of manage your energy
and keep your health great?

SPEAKER_00 (19:14):
You have to start thinking about energy is like
money.
How you invest it is how muchyou get back.
And you, Josh, have a uniqueenergy signature.
There's things that you do withyour physical body that it might
cost$100 to invest in, but youget a million dollars back.

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And the goal here is to be anenergetic millionaire, right?
That's the goal for all myclients, everyone I work with,
energetic millionaire.
If you if you want to makesomeone an energetic pauper,
destroy their sleep.
In fact, in the special forces,we used sleep deprivation as a
weapon of war.
If we could keep our enemyoff-centered and not sleeping
for three nights, we knew itwould mess them up better than a

(19:55):
bullet.
All right.
So, so getting yourself backstarts with the awareness that
you have a unique energysignature.
And your energy is like money.
How you invest it is how you getit back.
And no one's gonna figure thisout for you.
The economy we live in wants youto depend on it and not
yourself.

(20:17):
And understanding firstly, thebenefits, right?
If you had a vehicle that neverran out of fuel, where would you
go?
Anywhere, right?
Yeah, you keep going.
Anywhere you like.
Okay, so it it makes a lot ofsense to create a system of uh,

(20:41):
you know, we talked about yourown inner knowing your own inner
self to thine own self be true.
This is where you understandthat your unique energy
signature needs a certain typeof stimuli for it to actually
then become energetic.
Yeah, some people like to liftweights,$100 worth of energy

(21:03):
there gives them a milliondollars back.
Other people like stretching,running, lifting, whatever it
is, some sort of physical thingthat you can do with your body
that gives you a massive return.
And if I was to plan a perfectday for somebody, I would say
the first third of your day isinvested in you.

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And then the last two thirds,you get to pour into other
people's lives, but you'repouring out of your abundance,
not your inadequacy.
So, so being adequate in thisworld is not an option because I
know when I noticed when I wasworking, if I was adequate, if I
was at 100% and I did somethingfor somebody, let's uh I, you

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know, a job or somebody needed10% of my energy, part of me was
like, I'm down to 90%.
You better do something withthat 10%, and I'd have
attachments to it, and I'd getupset if I didn't get the
outcome I wanted with thatinvestment of energy.
But I noticed that if I investedin me, created 500% more energy
than I needed, I could go intoeach day knowing with the

(22:09):
confidence, knowing it doesn'tmatter if they love it, hate it,
it works, or it doesn't work,I'm in touch with something so
much more because I canself-regenerate me.
If my arm gets cut off, I cangrow up back, my head gets cut
off, I can grow up back.
It's a very different spacewalking through life with a
million, knowing you've got ayou're an energetic millionaire,
and if you lose it, you can getit back.

(22:29):
Yeah, but if you've you knowyou've only got two cents and
you're protecting what's there.
So a classic sign of poor energymanagement is you're always
wanting to control othersbecause because your lack of
control for yourself shows up intrying to control others.
Yeah, but good energy means thatuh you a good sign of good

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energy is generosity, and sowhat I tell my son who had his
21st birthday recently men arehere to be happy and generous.
That's the two things we're herefor.
We're here to be happy, we'rehere to be generous.
But what no one tells us is thatour happiness and generosity is

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completely relative to howpowerful we feel, and that
starts with us, it startsunderneath our own skin, it
starts with us accessing ourphysical body.
So, this is what I'm saying youinvest one third of your day
into your physical body, andthen you can be generous, you

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can be happy, and that's whatthis world needs that that
powerful masculine.
And to highlight this point, ifyou want to see a disempowered
masculine, uh you know, they'restingy, they're not happy,
they're trying to controleverything, they're doing power
trips, and you end up saying,Well, I still need a sense of

(24:06):
power, I'll take it from others.
If we don't give it toourselves, we try and take it
from others, and that's why alot of energy is wasted in men
by sort of posturing againsteach other.
Some people say, Oh, he's a badass, don't mess with him.
I'm like, nah, he's a weak ass.
He's so weak he can't generatehis own energy, he's got to
physically threaten others toget it.

(24:31):
And so I would encourage peopleto consider the possibility, do
your physical activities,whatever they are, until you
feel powerful.
Yeah, and in that position ofpower, you negotiate with the
world, and and like I said, youyou are far better off spending

(24:54):
the time needed to become anenergetic millionaire.
And so when you walk down thatstreet, you've got that
happiness, you've got thatgenerosity.
Yeah, as opposed to as opposedto, well, look, this body just
carries my eyeballs around.
I I'm an energetic pauper, Ineed extra coffee, extra energy,

(25:14):
and you know, I need pills tosleep, and you know, I've I've
walked that path, trust me.
So the what I'm trying to say isyour own body and the world we
currently live in has the worldwe currently live in has such

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little expectation of ourphysical bodies.
And and that's a real problemfor us men because that's like
that's like unplugging the powerfrom the wall.
We've disconnect them from oursource of power because you
know, all the trees have beencut down, all the mountains are
being climbed.
The world we live in doesn't getus to access this incredible
thing that that we just thinkcarries our eyeballs around

(25:57):
because there's so much here.
This body, imagine if you had aSwiss Army knife, could do all
sorts of stuff, but you neveropened it.
Yeah, that's that's what that'swhat our the world makes us men
and our bodies.
We've got all this awesome stuffin here, but we've we don't

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often get given the environmentto see all that awesome stuff
come out, and the world willsell us all these things that we
think we need to, you know, cuta piece of bread, open up a door
or or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 (26:35):
Yeah, you know, as you sit here, I'm I'm thinking
about the investments in energyand how because I'm thinking
about the word invest, right?
And then you get a big returnback.
It's the things that in thebeginning we don't necessarily

(26:56):
want to do it, right?
You don't feel like working out,but you know in the back end
you're gonna get a lot out ofit.
Sitting in a cold tub, taking acold shower, you know it's gonna
suck.
But the feeling afterward isgonna be amazing, right?
Sitting down meditating, doingsome breath work, right?
It's like I don't necessarilyfeel like sitting in this spot

(27:18):
doing this right now.
I feel like I don't have a lotof time.
I'm in a rush, but you end upgetting so much out of that.
Sitting down reading, listeningto a positive podcast.
Like it's the things that aren'tcomfortable when you at the
start or you don't feel likedoing it, those are the
investments.
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (27:38):
Yeah and you spoke to something really powerful
there, Josh, because what youspoke to, okay, before you do
some form of exercise,everyone's looking at, oh shit,
it's gonna cost me 20 bucks todo this, right?
They're not looking at the twomillion dollars on the other
side.
If they could see the twomillion dollars on the other

(27:58):
side, you know, it'd be a verydifferent experience.
And but you know, you do thisenough, you train yourself, but
but and and I want to sort ofhighlight what I'm talking
about.
And in in Australia, right now,it's 1111.
All right, and every day at1111, I send my son for the last
few years a little sort of notesaying, Hey, how are you doing?

(28:22):
Every single day.
So I just did that, so Iapologize for that little
distraction.

SPEAKER_01 (28:26):
That's dope.

SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
I love that, and and he's a kid that likes that kind
of routine, so it's kind oflike, oh, hey, you know, gotcha.
What were we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
So so let me flesh out thatresistance we have, say, before
exercise, before engaging ourbodies.
We have disempowered thingssitting in our head, taking up

(28:51):
rent.
We don't know they're there,right?
A bit like if you're trying touse a computer and there's a
bunch of background programsrunning, it's taking up so much
processing power and it's reallyhard to do stuff, right?
And if you wanted to install anew program, there'd be a whole
lot of resistance to that.

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So the disempowered parts of usknow that if we engage with our
bodies powerfully, they're nolonger gonna be around.
So they're fighting for theirsurvival.
So there's a part of youfighting for its survival,
saying, do not do this.
And that's when people geteasily, they they'll go, oh,
let's just look at your phone,let's just organize something

(29:33):
else.
They'll they'll find a way toprocrastinate so you can somehow
get around and they can keepthat rent in your head.
Because if you do access yourbody, you do become the
energetic millionaire, they'regone, lights are on, cockroaches
scatter.
And and I just encourage peopleas they start making those
investments, notice thatpushback.

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Because the more pushback youhave, that highlights, that
pushes to the surface all thoseboth background programs that
are taking up all yourbandwidth.
And whether you exercise or not,they're there.
They're taken away from yourday.
They're taken away from yourloved ones.
They're taken away from thefuture you're going to have.

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And so the thing I ask myself,Josh, is if if all I had to do
to have better relationshipswith people in front of me, to
have you know a better day, tohave a better future is do these
10 push-ups, would I do it?
And then I break it down.
You know, every 10 push-ups is10% better, 20% better, 30%

(30:36):
better.
You know, these are the thingsthat help get you over the thing
that most people get stuck at,because the world we live in,
like I said, doesn't let usnaturally access our bodies.
If we had hordes of zombies onthe street and you had to be
able to sprint for 10 seconds,everyone would be really good at
sprinting for 10 seconds.

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And they wouldn't think about itbecause that's just the way it
is.
But because the world we live inis so physically unchallenging,
we've been able to nurture andwater these, you know, weeds in
your head that are taking awayfrom our power and won't let you
connect to it because they don'twant to die.
And and it sort of, yeah.
I hope I hope that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 (31:17):
It does, it does.
And you know, we we we talkabout first of all, we talk
about power, and you mentionedearlier how folks people try to
control situations, right?
We try to control things outsideof us, whether it's out of fear,
right?
Fear of rejection, uh, fear ofabandonment, fear of, you know,

(31:41):
uh people seeing you a certainway.
And so you try to control theoutside, right?
And so you talked about how doyou know if you are you know
fatigued or not a good stewardof your energy is when you start
to really focus on what's thaton the outside of you, and it
takes out it takes a lot ofenergy to do that.

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And so before we hit before wehit record, remember I asked you
specifically about putting thepower into yourself, right?
And I think it's a lot of peopleout there who are putting so
much energy out to the to otherpeople outside of them,
situations outside of them,creating anxiety, creating

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worry, creating all thesenegative emotions as opposed to
bringing the power and theenergy back into themselves,
right?
Uh what does that look like?
Making sure that you have thatpower, that energy in yourself,
you know, as opposed to outside.

SPEAKER_00 (32:42):
Okay, so everything that you spoke about, looking
outside of your own skin, thenegative spectrum of emotions, I
don't call it a mental healthproblem, I call it a physical
disconnect problem.
Because when we're so focusedout there and we're connected to
things outside of us, we've lostthe connection to our own

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bodies.

SPEAKER_05 (33:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
You got that?
Yeah, so it's not a mentalhealth problem, it's a physical
disconnect problem.
So, how do we connect back intoour bodies, especially if we've
been feeding this disempoweredstuff in our head that loves it
when we're looking outside ofourselves?
Because we're feeding that shitin our head when we're looking
outside of ourselves.
Okay, it's like, yay, he'slooking at all the shit because
that's that shit's feeding us,right?

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So if you've ever seen somebodyin the extreme state of focusing
outside of themselves, they dothings like this, okay?
They lose control of theirbreathing, and and their breath
is almost saying, Hey, you'veforgotten about us, come back.
So I would love to not just talkabout this, I'd love to show you

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a method to connect back intoyour body that you can use
anytime, anywhere, and andwithin three breaths, you can
get your power back.

SPEAKER_01 (33:57):
Let's do it.
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 (33:58):
All right, so connecting back into your body,
the first thing we need to do isconnect back into our breath.
So I'm just gonna ask you totake a relaxed inhale and
exhale.
Okay, I saw that you did that,Josh.
And if you were listening, ifyou did that, you took a

(34:19):
conscious breath.
You were simply aware of yourinhale, and you were aware of
your exhale.
Could could getting our powerback be that simple?
Or maybe I need to buy a bunchof products before I can feel my
power again.
Now, what I'm gonna do isbecause breathing, we've been
doing it our whole lives, right?

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Yeah, and it's a bit like welive in a world where everyone's
limping, so we think limping isnormal.
And and that's the way it iswith our breath.
So I work with a lot ofprofessional athletes, it it
amazes me how many of them justdon't know how to breathe
properly, right?
Yeah, so because this is acompletely new habit, I and we

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get to experience new thingswithin the body to make it
comfortable and and inviting forpeople, I just ask permission.
There's three little questionsthat I ask people to allow them
to get the most from theirbreath.
So before I show you these threebreaths, I've just got three
little questions that if you ifyou like the idea of just say

(35:25):
yes or no or whatever it is,this is the invitation.
So, Josh, do you and anyonelistening, do you give
permission to your own breath tofully nourish every single part
of your physical body?

SPEAKER_04 (35:39):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (35:40):
Awesome.
That was easy, Josh.
Do you give permission to yourown breath to fully nourish
every part of your consciousthinking mind?

SPEAKER_04 (35:51):
Yes, awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (35:54):
Last question.
Josh, do you give permission toyour own breath to nourish every
single part of your unconsciousmind?

SPEAKER_04 (36:04):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (36:05):
Fantastic.
All right, so this time we'regonna work on exhaling a bit
more, and then when you breathein, we're gonna breathe in more,
more, more, more, more.
So we'll give that a try.
Okay.
So let's work with the exhale,blow it all out.
You'll be surprised how much youcan blow out.
Out, out, out, out, out.

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And with your no mouth closed,breathe in through your nose,
breathe in through your nose,in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
in, in, in, in, in, in, in.
Now hold it.
Wriggle your shoulders.
Just wriggle your shoulders,wriggle, wriggle, wriggle,
wriggle, wriggle.
And then if it feels good, letit out with a ah.

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Let that energy do what it doesin your body.
It's it's a receivership thing.
Our guy, us guys are good atdoing, we're not very good at
receiving.
So that's why I I askpermission.
Your energy, this is yourenergy.
It can heal your body, it canheal your mind, conscious and

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otherwise.
All right.
And energy has an intelligenceall of its own.
It'll go to where it's needed.
Some people feel like they'restretching, some people want to
yawn, whatever that is.
Okay.
So I'm gonna show you how totake a proper inhale.
So you notice when you breathein again and again and again,

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there was sort of like someextra space that opened up in
the top third.

SPEAKER_05 (37:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:37):
Okay.
So for the sake of giving it aname, we're gonna call that your
secondary inhale.

SPEAKER_05 (37:43):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (37:43):
So your primary inhale is where you normally
breathe in and out, and yoursecondary inhale is where you
breathe in more, more, more.
Got that?
And again, I love what I dobecause I'm gonna show you a
little Swiss army knife trickthat your body does that most
people, nobody knows does.
So in your two fingers andthumb, you actually have a power

(38:08):
button.
So when you squeeze themtogether really hard, that
powers up your secondary inhale.
So all we're gonna do now, Josh,I'm just gonna play with this.
My second, my screen is playingaround.
Okay, so all we're gonna do nowis exhale, breathe in.
But when it comes to thatsecondary inhale, that little
bit more, I want you to pinchyour fingers really hard and

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just look up.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
We do that on an inhale or an exhale.

SPEAKER_00 (38:33):
On the inhale, okay, we're gonna hit those power
buttons.
Okay, so we're gonna exhale andthen out, out, out, out, out,
out, out, mouth closed, startbreathing in, hit those power
buttons, look up.
Open, open, open.
Now just hold it and wrigglethose shoulders, wriggle that

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spine, feel that chest openingup like a flower in the sun.
Feel that big strong chestopening, opening, opening.
And when it feels good, let itout with a big ah out, out, out,
out, out.
Oh, yeah.
Starting to find out how amazingour body is and how easy it is

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to give it what it's needed.
All right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
First of all, like a head buzz, right?
My head is buzzing, right?
But you definitely feel morepresent, right?
In your body.
That's that's the perfect way toput it.
I I definitely feel especiallyyou know, I mean, first of all,
when you can't breathe, right?
When you're exhaling and youyou're filling everything up,

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all you can think about isletting go, right?
And no, those are powerfulthings right there.
And I didn't know about thefinger trick.
Right.
That is huge.
That is huge.

SPEAKER_00 (40:03):
And we're not even a third of the way in.
Just you wait.
I'm gonna show you just howamazing your body is, right?
So you see my sort of skinnywhite nose right now.

SPEAKER_05 (40:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (40:13):
Okay, behind my nose, everyone's nose, we have
sinuses.

SPEAKER_05 (40:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (40:19):
And those sinuses, I used to be a professional
fighter, so my coach, before Ido a combination, would always
say, snort air rapidly over yoursinuses, and that would snort
brain uh air, oxygen into yourbrain.
Now, whether that was based inscience or not, it worked in
combat, and this is what we'regonna do now to snort air over
our sinuses, almost like we'retrying to pull it through to the

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back of our head.
So, what's gonna happen is we'regonna exhale and we're gonna
double the speed of the inhale.
Let me give you a littledemonstration.
So we're gonna exhale, exhale,exhale, we're gonna have our
power buttons ready, out, out,out, out, out, and then as as
rapidly as we can, we're gonnalet me demonstrate this.
Don't jump ahead.
We're gonna go and we're gonnalike deliberately, rapidly pull

(41:04):
air over our sinuses as we lookup, and we're just gonna hold
it, give it a wriggle, give it awriggle, and then look up, yeah.
All right, so same as before,but double the speed and really
look up and almost like leanback a bit.
Are you in a safe place?
Are you in a chair?

SPEAKER_01 (41:22):
No, I'm standing up right now.

SPEAKER_00 (41:23):
Okay, if you're standing up, can I can I make a
request?
Yeah, have your pinches, haveone of these on the on the desk
so you pinch the desk so you cansecure yourself, and the other
one you can use.
In fact, you could probably doit with both, just so you can so
you can lean back, hold it, andwriggle.
Okay, because I just I don'twant you because some people
this feels so good they drift abit, and you know, I don't so

(41:46):
caveat is do this in a safeenvironment.

SPEAKER_01 (41:49):
All right, listen, ideally seated sit down or hold
on to something.

SPEAKER_00 (41:53):
Okay, so I want you your your your your your two
fingers and thumbs to pinch thedesk as you look up rapidly and
breathe in.
Cooker.

SPEAKER_05 (42:02):
Cool.

SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
All right, so start with exhaling, blow it out, blow
it out, blow it out, out, out,out, more, more, more, out as
far as you can, far as you can,and then with your mouth closed,
rapid inhale, push your nose tothe ceiling, push your nose to
the ceiling, hold it now.
Wriggle those shoulders,wriggle, wriggle, wriggle.
Feel that chest opening, feelthat wonderful, like a flower

(42:23):
opening up, and when it feelsgood and you can't stop it, let
out a big ah.

SPEAKER_05 (42:31):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 (42:38):
Wow, that's a crazy feeling.
Whoa.
I think why you have me hold onto the desk.
I have I don't think I've everwow.
That is a crazy feeling.

SPEAKER_00 (42:54):
Well, Josh, your whole life you haven't taken a
proper breath.
You haven't just you didn't knowthe power of your own breath.
Okay.
And so you are and teeth startshowing because we we're like
we're made to be happy,remember?
We're made to be powerful, we'remade to be generous.

(43:14):
Yeah, man, we got you.
Okay, you know how many peoplehow many things people take to
put smiles on their faces?

SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
Oh yeah.
No, that I mean, like if peoplecould if people knew how to
access that.
That is a crazy feeling.
Like, I feel really good.
Wow.

(43:42):
Wow.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (43:45):
Because here's the thing you're not just getting
more energy from your oxygen,proper breathing gives you
proper alignment.
And our body's in our electricalcircuit, right?
So think of your brain like agenerator and all the electrical
cables running down, they're nothard cables.
Think of them like squishygarden hoses, you know.

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And if you step on your gardenhose, there's not much water
going through.
You got that?

SPEAKER_05 (44:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:12):
So when we're hunched over, when we're looking
at a screen, when we're hunchedover looking at a phone, we are
essentially stepping on our owngarden hoses, so there's no
energy going through the system.
And when I work with the BritishSpecial Forces, they worked out
that every degree the body wasout of alignment, it lost
between 8 and 12% strength.

(44:34):
Isn't that interesting?
So if you could carry 100 kiloson your shoulders, one degree
out, your max was only 88 to 92kilos.
I mean, I'm talking metric rightnow.
I hope you get that.

SPEAKER_01 (44:43):
I don't kilos, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:46):
So okay, so so you if you were carrying 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 (44:50):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:50):
Yeah, yeah.
So you you drop eight to 12%strength every degree you're out
of alignment.
So imagine if every time youjust breathed in and looked up,
you got eight to twelve percentstronger.
Yeah.
And that's only one degree out.
If you're three degrees, that'slike a whole lot more.
That energy you're feeling, itit it's it's a tangible form of

(45:11):
power.

SPEAKER_01 (45:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:13):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (45:14):
No, that's crazy energy that I felt.
And I remember I told you I didI did some breath work earlier
today, right?
And you know, people who I don'tknow if people are familiar with
breath work and what that lookslike.
But I mean, people cry, right?
A lot of times I get teary-eyedand some of those intense kind
of breath work experiencing,doing some belly breathing,

(45:37):
chest breathing.
I get teary-eyed, and you know,at the end of the session, like
I'm crying.
But that actually like pullingthe oxygen in really fast,
putting my head up, like thatwas it was some intense energy
that I felt right there.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
And we're only about halfway through it.
It's gonna get better.
All right.
All right.
I'm I'm I'm tempted to have yousit in a chair, but I think
you'll be okay.

SPEAKER_01 (46:06):
I can sit down.
If you want me to sit down, Ican adjust.

SPEAKER_00 (46:09):
Well, that would be ideal.
That would be ideal.
So if you need to press pause,I'm happy to.

SPEAKER_01 (46:14):
No, I can uh I got it set up where I can sit down.

SPEAKER_00 (46:19):
Perfect.
And is your is your spinesupported?
You're sitting down with asmile?

SPEAKER_01 (46:23):
My spine is supported.

SPEAKER_00 (46:25):
Fantastic.
All right, no worries.
You're doing really well, by theway.
I I can see you've got physicalmastery, you're doing everything
you're supposed to, and you'realso physically sensitive.
So you you picked up on thisstraight away.
A lot of people can't quiteclassify what's going on.
And I show people these easy toaccess breath work techniques
because not everyone's got halfan hour spare.

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They just want something thatcan get them through the moment.
And then what I hope happens isthey go, Oh, every time I gave
breath ten dollars, it gave me athousand dollars.
Well, how about I start puttingmore of my time and effort into
that?
You know, yeah.
So that's that's why I'm showingthis very easy.
Like my party trick is threebreaths and you're back in

(47:07):
control, right?
So our nose is a veryinteresting thing.
Imagine if there was a gas outthere that benefits your brain,
benefits your heart, benefitsyour performance, benefits your
immune system and your moodregulation.

(47:29):
There's a gas out there.
And if you went to say, youknow, a laboratory and said, I
want a gas that helps me improvepretty much every part of me,
you'd probably be paying severalhundred dollars for a small
bottle that might not last you aweek, right?
Now, nitric oxide is that gas,it's a vasodilator, it improves

(47:53):
performance, improves mood,improves uh sexual function.
There's so many things that itdoes, and it's not produced when
we breathe through our mouths.
It's only produced when webreathe through our nose.
That's incredible.
Breathing through your nose.

SPEAKER_02 (48:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:13):
Now fun fact is if you hum, you increase nitric
oxide uptake by like twothousand percent.
By humming.
Okay.
Yeah.
Humming.
All right.
Yeah.
So what I want you to do, andthis is just a practice, is

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breathe in, hum with your mouthclosed, let it go out of your
nose, and then block onenostril, and then restart, and
then start restricting it so itso it so you feel like the air
is backing up a little bit.
So you go and so it takes alittle while to come out.
Let it you feel that sort ofoxygen, you're pushing on it and
you're humming.

SPEAKER_05 (48:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:58):
So you got that?
So and it sort of it almostmakes your nose feel like you're
playing uh a musical instrumentbecause it's it's making that
kind of yeah, right.
And what we're gonna do, Josh,is when we breathe in, we're
gonna hold it and we're gonnawriggle it down from our upper

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to our middle to our lower, andour and we're gonna push it down
low and we're gonna hum whileit's pushed down low because
I'll just stand up so you cansee what I'm talking about.
The bottom of our lungs is wherethe best gas exchange is.
Okay, so when I'm working withathletes, I'll show them how to
breathe down there, pressurizeit, and oxygen dissolves lactic

(49:44):
acid.
You got that?
Yeah, so we're gonna take a deepbreath in, hold it, and then
gonna wriggle it, wriggle it,wriggle it down low till it's
like a balloon in our belly, andthen we're just gonna hum as we
push it down low.
And this is the this is the oneyou you do need to be seated,
supported in a safe place for.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (50:02):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (50:03):
All right.
So with your power buttonsready, I'll coach you through
this, I'll be with you the wholetime.
Start blowing it out.
Out, out, out, out, out.
And then rapid inhale, pointyour nose to the ceiling, hit
the power buttons, open, open,open.
Okay, hold it, hold it, and justwriggle, wriggle, wriggle,

(50:26):
wriggle it down.
Turn your head, push your headforward, push your head forward,
put your hands on your belly,push it down low.
You're still holding yourbreath, and then pushing it down
low, start humming with yourmouth closed, pinch your nose.
Feel it pushing down low, and asyou let that slow exhale out,

(50:48):
relax your shoulders, relax yourneck, relax your face, relax any
tension in your body, treat yourbody like a deflating toy.
Everything's just letting it go.

SPEAKER_01 (51:09):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (51:11):
We're just gonna do that two more times, my man.

SPEAKER_01 (51:14):
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 (51:15):
Okay, and each time just let it go in deeper.
You'll give they've givenpermission for it to nourish
your body, your mind, yourunconscious mind.
So let's let's do it again,breathe out again, blow it out,
out, out, out, out, out, out,out.
And this is the only time wework hard is when we hit those

(51:35):
power buttons and look up,really snort that air, try and
pull it through the back of yourhead, hold it, hold it, wriggle,
wriggle, wriggle.
Now let your head fall forward,wriggle it down to your belly
button, push it down low, handson your belly, hands on your
belly, let your head fallforward, let your head fall
forward, and then just hum itout.

(51:59):
And the longer you exhale, thebetter it is.
Let all that tension leave yourbody, leave your mind, leave
your unconscious mind.
Just focus on that breath.

(52:26):
And then, whenever you're ready,we do it one last time, in your
own time, in your own way.
I'm right here, so just startwith the exhale, and I really
just want you to lengthen thebreath really long, blow it out
further, and then we power up,push into the ceiling, in, in,

(52:50):
in, feel the tension, wriggle itaround, wriggle it around, and
then just let your body relax,wriggle it down low, hands on
your belly, hands on your belly,feel that air going down to the
push it down further this time,push that air down further, let
your head fall forward, and whenit feels right, just go for as
long as possible, and just letthat goodness in.

(53:18):
Just let everything relax.
Your shoulders, your neck, yourface, your arms.
It's all just letting go.
You're perfectly safe, you'reperfectly supported.

(53:47):
The longer you do it, the betterit is.
And I just encourage you just todon't give it words yet, just
let your spine sit in thatchair, let that let that chair
support you right now.
Let the muscles touching thatchair support you.
The chair was built to hold you,it will hold you, it will
support you.

(54:08):
Often in our tension, we it'slike we're trying to give
ourselves a hug and holdourselves up, but it doesn't
work like that.
It's only when we completely letgo and and feel supported that
we can actually get that supportthat we're so needing.
And right now, you've just givenyour system what it needs to go,

(54:28):
you know what, I'm safe, I canlet go, I can, I can be in this
moment.
And I and I and I want toacknowledge you, you really took
that on.
And you're you're on you're inthe space now where you know
you're nourishing your body,you're nourishing your mind,
you're nourishing yourunconscious mind.

SPEAKER_01 (54:46):
Yeah.
You know, we talk aboutregulating the the nervous
system, right?
Our nervous system.
And a lot of times our nervoussystem are in, you know, it's in
it's in flight or f flight, it'sin freeze.
You know, it's in a void, right?

(55:09):
It's it's it's it's our nervoussystem and our unconscious mind
tell us a lot, right?
And being able to have ways toregulate our nervous system, I
don't think people realize howimportant uh or or essential
that is, right?

SPEAKER_00 (55:30):
Well, we can't regulate our nervous system, but
we can connect to something somuch more powerful than it.
And that's what we did.
We connected to our breathbecause before we were thinking,
we were breathing, and that deepancient wiring outranks the
thinking mind.
So as you were breathing, youweren't thinking about anything
else because your breath hasolder wiring and more powerful

(55:54):
wiring than this new kid on theblock.
And and within that, youconnected to your own body, your
own power, you plug back in.
So you stop, and this shit justdisappears and it evaporates,
it's not even there.
I'm looking at you, you you lookdifferent, you're talking
different, you you got arelaxed, you know, facial

(56:17):
disposition.
There's there's it's tangible,and and if I have to use another
big word, ineffable words don'tadequately describe when you
connect back into theawesomeness that is in your
body, because this awesomenessexisted well before we spoke.
And this is why psychologiststhey study for eight years, and

(56:38):
no one tells them that thatstuck energy goes down deeper
than words can reach.
And this is why I don't talkself-regulating, I talk
connecting back into your realpower.
Because that's where that'swhere that change happens very
rapidly.
Because that was just threebreaths, my man.

(56:58):
Yeah, you know, if if we weretogether for an hour, I could I
I could show you things thatyour breath could do for you
that that words just I can'texplain the experience.

SPEAKER_01 (57:09):
Yeah, I mean, it it was it was times where I felt
like high, you know.
You feel hi, right?
It's like it's like whoa, youknow, and our breath, I mean,
just sitting there sitting herethinking, you know, doing this

(57:30):
with you, I'm like, wow, did ourbreath can do some amazing
things for us, right?
Wow, that that was uh that was agreat experience.

SPEAKER_00 (57:39):
And Josh, you're one of the few people that have
discovered the power of yourbreath.
There is a$540 billion illegaldrug spend because people want
to get high.
I'm a big believer in being inaltered states.
Yeah, okay, but I'll do that formyself.
Thank you very much.
I'm not gonna become enslaved toa substance that can do

(58:00):
something for me that I couldotherwise do for myself.

SPEAKER_05 (58:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:03):
Got that?

SPEAKER_05 (58:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:05):
And you don't hear about this sort of stuff because
guess what?
No one's making money from it.

SPEAKER_01 (58:11):
Yeah, it goes back to what you said in the
beginning, right?
That that authenticity, thatauthenticity uh piece of it,
right?
And and so many marketers andpeople trying to sell something
to you that you can give toyourself, right?

SPEAKER_00 (58:29):
It's already exactly the and and the takeaway is if
you if you're kicking around inpublic, I will discreetly,
because I'm human, you know, ifthere's something that's taking
my attention away from me, Iwill discreetly use my power
buttons to snort and just holdit and wriggle for gently.

(58:51):
I won't push it down low becausethat gets me drifting a bit too
low, but I'll just do thatsnort, hold it, give it a
wriggle, and I'm like, ah, I'mback in my body right now.
And if you can do this at thebeginning of the day, you then
say, Okay, here's my powerrange.
And you start noticing if you'reoutside of your power range.
Ah, I'm gonna use my breath tobring me back in.

(59:11):
Yep, this is where I live.
This is me being an energeticmillionaire.
This is not me, you know,focused out there, disconnected
from my power.
So I encourage people, use thisas your power button.
A bit like you know, when you'rein hospital, you press that
button for a pain relief orbring the nurse in or whatever.

(59:32):
Have this as your circuitbreaker.
Because I know when I've gotshit in my head, watch what
happens to my my my physicalstructure.
When there's things pissing meoff, I start hunching over.
And I'm I'm stepping on the thethe garden hoses, so to speak.
I'm I'm pinching off my ownphysical energy by being hunched
over, and I'm and I'm reducingthe amount that I breathe.

(59:53):
But when I, you know, life looksvery different as a millionaire
than as a you know, as a pauper.
And and this is this littlething gives us that access
through the day, and that's whyI'm a firm proponent on.
The first five minutes of yourconscious waking, doing breath
work to create your millionairezone.

(01:00:15):
This is where I live.
Okay.
This is my home.
This is what makes me feel safe.
This is what makes other peoplefeel safe.
This allows me to be generous.
This allows me to be happy.
This allows me to be powerful.
And I'm not worried about I knowthat I can't stop other people
trying to take from me, but theycan't stop me putting back in.
Right.
You know, because I've been thatguy with only a dollar.

(01:00:36):
Someone took 50 cents and I'vespent years thinking of revenge
and stuff to get that 50 centsback.
And I've completely not knownthat I could have been a
millionaire the next day.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:46):
You feel me?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:49):
Yeah.
How did you find out about thispractice?
What got you into this practice?
Obviously, you know, being inwar, being a being a MMA
fighter, like you probably spenda lot of time in fight or
flight, right?
Where you had to calm your down,right?
Or understanding how to dealwith danger, right?

(01:01:10):
How did you get into thispractice?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:12):
Yeah, good question.
Good question.
I was on this Himalayanmountaintop and this light
appeared all around me.
That didn't happen.
So I I had to say it because somany people think it's like it's

(01:01:33):
not like that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:34):
It was a moment of enlightenment, huh?
No, I just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
It was it was it was in the deepest part of my own
shit in the middle ofAfghanistan, completely fatigued
in the dirt.
And I thought I was gonna die.
There's no point.
And it was like I only had twocents worth of energy.
Wow.
And then and then something saidto me, Tim, if you've only got

(01:02:00):
two cents worth of energy, youbetter invest that properly.
All right.
Kind of could, I don't know whatit was, but we never got
anything that you'd call sleepin the field, but you'd get
horizontal every now and thenjust to just to lay down.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:19):
And so instead of just trying to sleep, what I
what I found myselfinstinctively doing, this is a
true story, I would focus on myleft thumb and I'd picture there
was like a pinhole.
I didn't know breath work was athing, right?
But this is what I felt led todo a pinhole in my thumb, and I
was like breathing through mynose, and I was pulling air

(01:02:40):
through my thumb and for pullingrelaxation through my thumb, and
eventually my thumb would thenbecome like white light.
Okay, in my in my mind's eye.
Oh, it's turned white, right?
And I didn't know, but I wasaccessing nitric oxide, which
was accelerating my healingprocesses, accelerating my uh a
number of different things.
And then I'd go to my indexfinger, you know, or pointer

(01:03:03):
finger, ring finger, all thesesorts of things.
And then I'd pull that throughto my forearm.
And at that point, I would gointo this delightfully
oxygenated, alkalized state.
And I would go to sleep with twocents worth of energy and I'd
wake up with 50 cents worth ofenergy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:21):
Again, I didn't know what breath work was, but I
could see patterns, you know,energy is like money.
How you invest it, how you getit back.
So the next night I'd invest 50cents.
And instead of pulling itthrough my hands, I'd pull it
through my arm and into part ofmy body, and then boom, I'd wake
up with five dollars.
And then I just startedinvesting and returning,
investing and returning until itgot to a point where I'm like,

(01:03:43):
man, I'm good to go.
Holy crap, who knew?
And I started doing extra sortof strength work on top of my
normally busy day, like liftingan ammo tin, doing push-ups, all
that sort of stuff.
But it's interesting, Josh.
I realized, and I had to go toAfghanistan to get this.

(01:04:05):
I could be having a great day,but if my team wasn't having a
good day, I'm not having a goodday.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:14):
So I had to generate enough energy to then pour into
my team.
And so there there comes a pointin your journey of mastering
underneath your own skin whereyou say, Well, how do I best
then be powerful outside of myown skin?

(01:04:35):
And I didn't know breath workwas a thing, but I just I
started to see the power ofservanthood and not servitude.
Because I'd mixed up servitudewith servanthood.
Okay, and so I started I starteddoing things for my team that
would uh boost them up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:58):
And it was uh it was yeah, what did that look like?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:05):
Like well, okay.
I happen to have a supply ofcoffee, fresh, you know,
freshly, you know, groundcoffee.
Yeah, and and the problem was ina group of alpha blokes, if you
do an act of service that theydidn't ask for, they treat you

(01:05:25):
like a servant.
Uh I knew if I brought peoplecoffee, I'd be called the brew
bitch, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:33):
And I'm like, I've worked too hard to be here.
You know, someone's gonna getpolitely knocked out if they if
they call me the brew bitch.
But again, I was fortunateenough to be in a situation
where I had to think, well, whodo I want around me when good
times turn bad?
Do I want strong and connectedand empowered people?
Do I do I want disempoweredfatigued people?

(01:05:56):
So I I I called it the egobridge.
Once you drop your own ego, onceyou don't care about what other
people think, genuinely, you canyou can use that to go anywhere.
Yeah, and so I I brought Ibrought coffee to people.
I got called the brew bitch.
But living so close to people,you gotta you got to see what

(01:06:19):
your actions did.
Because quite often in society,we're so disconnected from
others physically, we can't seewhat happens in the space I was
in.
I could actually see those guyswere arguing, throwing shit at
each other.
I drop off a coffee, they callme the brew bitch, and then they
start taking these sips ofcoffee, and then everything just

(01:06:40):
stopped.
The arguing stopped, they'redrinking real coffee, their
shoulders drop.
You could see them going asthey're looking at the horizon,
right?
So that their body is naturallyself-regulating, and all of a
sudden, these arguing peoplewould start connecting, sitting
down, telling jokes.

(01:07:02):
And eventually the upper ranksand lower ranks started sitting
down together, and that's nosmall thing.
Normally there's a point ofseparation.
And in that place, I was sayingnothing, I was a private, I was
paid to do what everyone elsesaid, but I had to go there and
see that to see just howpowerful servanthood is,
creating a space where peoplefeel like their needs are met,

(01:07:27):
and then they can connect toothers.
And I thought, as much asthere's still dark times ahead,
we're gonna meet those darktimes as a connected team.
And and that that was uh a realshift for me.
You know, I could have lived sixcomfortable lifetimes and not if

(01:07:48):
I didn't have my own survival atstake, I wouldn't have been able
to sort of go through the my ownyou know innate selfishness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:57):
Wow.
And so lowering that, first ofall, lowering that ego, you you
and you said a word that wouldego bridge, ego bridge.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:06):
You drop it, you can walk over it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:07):
Yeah, that ego bridge, but you said genuinely
stop caring about what peoplethink, genuinely is the word,
right?
And it's so tough, especiallywhen you're in a space of a lot
of men and you are a leader, andyou want to be looked at as the

(01:08:28):
baddest.
You know, we talk about playinginjured.
I remember playing throughgruesome stuff just for not even
obviously I wanted to play, butI wanted to show weakness.
I wanted to know.
Yeah, I wanted the team to know,hey, this is who I am, right?
He's crazy, he's willing to gothrough anything.

(01:08:51):
But even dropping the ego, thatego bridge, and just genuinely
not looking for that approval orthat validation for the
betterment of the full unit, thefull team for others, that I
mean, that that's something thata lot of men can start to take a

(01:09:15):
look at.
And then you realize how much itmakes you feel better, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:20):
Well, how many men are struggling with the concern
they have of what other peoplethink?
So they're all just in my mind,looking back on it, I helped so
many other men feel comfortablewith dropping their ego because
I dropped mine.
Because every we're us men arejust waiting for permission to
do that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:40):
Taking the mask off, taking that mask off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:43):
Right.
And then how many people youhelp along the way.
You know, I'm sitting herethinking about, you know, even
creating a podcast or whateverthe case may be.
I remember having a lot offears.
And I still feel like it's it'sother areas where we kind of dim
our light.
And I'm talking about mespecifically, where you could

(01:10:04):
literally drop that ego bridgefor the betterment of others.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:11):
Yeah, it's not just you walking over that bridge.
It's a whole other people withyou.
They're just they're they're allon one side, they're waiting for
one person to drop that bridgeand then, oh, we can all go.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:19):
You can run and run across it.
Yeah.
And run across it, right?
But I think it's so many of usout there that are, you know, we
have that ego, uh, the fear oflooking lame, right?
Yeah, or cringy, you know, notbeing cool, not being seen as

(01:10:42):
just this, it's it's we have somany, as men, we got so many
masks, so many things that wehave, and you like talking about
our ego that we can just dropfor others to drop their egos as
well, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:58):
And to add a layer of self-benefit, because I I
really yeah, I had to see theself-benefit because, like I
said, in Afghanistan, I'm like,well, if I want to survive the
self-benefit and having strongpeople around me, you know what
I mean?
Yeah, the other thing to sort oflayer in self-benefit is it's
not just this generation we'redropping the ego for, it's all

(01:11:20):
the generations before us thatheld on to certain things and
they put it into the DNA, andit's in us.
I ain't never met my great-greatgreat grandfather, but I'm
pretty sure he was an angrydude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And for me to get healing in mylife, in my timeline, I feel

(01:11:42):
like the ancestors are going, Ican finally rest now.
You know, we bring healing tothose before us, and obviously
healing to those that come afterus.
If I don't resolve what I needto resolve, and the answer to

(01:12:02):
all of this is love.
You know, how do I respond withlove?
And not love the way peoplethink, love in the way that you
are actually all powerful.
You don't even fear death.
You can get your arm cut off, Ican grow up back.
That's how powerful I am.

(01:12:23):
And it's it's it it it was adriving point for me to realize
my dumb shit doesn't die in thegrave with me.
I pass it on to my children.
Or or or anyone who's you knowwho meets me, you know.
So that was that was sort of thethe driving force for me to do

(01:12:46):
the work is a conversation I hadbefore I was in the army.
I was working as a a bell hop, Ithink you'd call that, in a
hotel, just carrying bags,right?
Yeah, in an Australia, nobodytips.
So it was just carrying heavystuff and not a lot of tips,
right?
And I remember thinking about,and I invite everybody to to go

(01:13:08):
on this journey with me.
Don't think about your futurefor a second, think about your
past.
Think about before you'rearound, think about your your
mom and dad, okay, whichever oneyou want to think about.
I was thinking about my dad, andI'm like, you know what?
My life would have turned outvery differently if dad chose a
different mum.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:31):
Okay, yeah, and and you know what, even before he
met mom, he was making choicesthat some of them really worked
for me, and some of them, youknow, they didn't work for me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:45):
All right, and then it hit me as a young man with no
kids, holy shit, there is gonnabe a kid at some point in the
future thinking about my life,thinking, oh, I'm really glad
dad chose that.
And you know what?
When dad chose this, that didn'twork for me at all.

(01:14:05):
And and and it was literallylike these two pathways appeared
in front of me.
One took up about that much, andthat was the easy path, that was
the unconscious part, that wasthe part that you do without
thinking.
And then there was the consciouspart, the part that took a
choice, the part that often tookmore energy, so it was

(01:14:27):
considered the harder path.
And I saw beyond the the easypath was the longer you're on
the easy path, the harder lifegot.
Yeah, ironically, right?
The hard path was hard, but thenthe longer you're on it, the
easier it is.
Yeah, and I couldn't do that formyself in the moment.

(01:14:51):
I was put in that place becauseI I saw at some point in the
future there is honestly goingto be a kid going, I'm really
glad my dad chose this before Iwas even born.
You know, and and and and that'sthat was sort of the concept
where it allows us to choose thethings we kind of know we're

(01:15:12):
supposed to choose, but it justadds an extra layer of, I guess,
self-benefit commitment to towhy we choose something that
takes more energy that isconsidered the harder path.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:26):
Yeah, the hard path.
That that investment, like wetalked about earlier, right?
And yeah, you you you make hardchoices now for for easier life
later, right?
And you make these easy choicesnow.
I mean, the easy choice, youknow, for me it's Friday night.

(01:15:46):
Easy choice would be to just gohang out, tell Tim, ah, that's a
reschedule.
Matter of fact, Tim, I don'teven want to do this, you know.
But, you know, it's it's it'sall about making those choices
that you know will make you feelbetter.
Like I know for a fact afterthis show, I'm gonna, this, this

(01:16:07):
is filling my cup, right?
I I'm I'm already thinking abouthow great tomorrow morning is
gonna be, how how great I'mgoing to feel tomorrow morning
after doing this, right?
And so you do you keep stackinga bunch of those, and
eventually, you know, you lookdown the line and you've
created, like you said, thingsthat your kids can look at and

(01:16:30):
be like, man, thank you, dad,for making all these decisions,
you know, for my life.
You know, honestly, you made mylife a lot easier, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:42):
And it pays if you really want to go somewhere to
get a double-barreled dose ofmotivation.
And I want to presence everybodyhere.
If you if you're picking upwhat's putting down, I my goal
is for you to have permanentaccess to your own power.
And there's a big part of usthat we can access that not many

(01:17:06):
people do.
There's a wonderful experimentthey did on a mouse going
towards a piece of cheese.
I'm going somewhere with this,yeah, and it and it measured
like using your terms, abouthalf a pound of pressure getting
towards the cheese.
And then they put the smell of acat in the room, and it went to

(01:17:27):
like two pounds of pressure.
It had so much more access topower when there was something
it really didn't want to bearound.
Okay.
Now, my personal view is Irecommend to everybody not don't
watch mainstream media becausethat's just smell of the cat,

(01:17:47):
smell of the cat.
Look at all the smells of thecat.
And everyone's sort of sothere's no cheese to go towards.
It's just the the room stinks acat, and then they just well,
what's the freaking point,right?
Okay, so so there is a time thatthat is overused, but there's
what we want to go towards, butthere's also what we want to
avoid.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:08):
Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:08):
And I'm I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna play with a
classic one, what I often dowith high school students.
So before my son was born, Icould have made very easy
choices of eating everythingthat I was unhealthy and being
inactive, getting type 2diabetes.
That was within my power to do.

(01:18:30):
And if I had a partner that hadthose same choices, they show
now that the child gets bornwith what?
Type 2 diabetes.
Yeah, thanks, mum and dad.
So, of course, I want what'sbest for my son, and some days
I'm like, yeah, I that's there'sa piece of cheese I want to go

(01:18:51):
towards.
But then other days I need themotivation that, you know, if
God is my witness, my child isgoing to be born healthy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:00):
When I was on special forces selection, I was
the oldest guy there.
Everyone thought you're too old.
Okay.
30 was a maximum allowable ageto get into the special forces.
And some days, and we have 28days of selection course, right?
SEALs have a hell week, we got ahell month.
All right, I'll just drop thatone out there for a bit of ego.

(01:19:22):
That's true.
The point I'm trying to makehere is some days I was doing
selection because I wanted towear the be a commando, because
that's the cheese I was after.
But some days I'm like, fuck thecommando shit.
I'm too tired to even want that.

(01:19:44):
But my blessing was a formerboss of mine was an absolute
prick.
Yeah, and if I stopped doingselection, I would have to go
back to that prick.
And I'm like, as God is mywitness, that is not happening.
And it was like I it was genuinepower when I needed it, because

(01:20:04):
that was the smell of my cat.
So I I invite people to reallyget tactile.
What would life be like if youhad things exactly as you wanted
them to?
You know, whether you want tofocus on your kids or yourself,
but also if you made choicesthat were out of alignment with
who you were, how bad it couldget.

(01:20:26):
Yeah, how hard it would be justto get up and move around.
You your skin would freakingstink.
You know, this is very possible,you know, with the choices we
make.
So so to give yourself a doublethe chance, the cheese is only
gonna get you so far some days,but other days it's that smell

(01:20:46):
of the cat that's gonna go, asGod is my witness, that ain't
gonna happen.
Yeah, so that's I'm just givingpeople uh a powerful access.
And you're gonna own thisyourself, hopefully, you know,
when we're not here, so you can,you know, you're not just
powerful when you're listeningto Josh and Tim.
You you're accessing thisunderneath your own skin, you
know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:03):
Yeah, 100%.
It's that dream and thatnightmare.
It's the dream or the mynightmare, right?
This is what I don't want mylife to look like.
And if I keep doing thesehabits, doing these things,
making these choices, my lifewill look like this, right?
Versus if I make these choices,my life will look like that.

(01:21:25):
And you know those currentchoices that you bring now are
gonna be tougher, right?
But you're gonna get so much ROIon those choices in the long run
versus though that nightmare,right?
You can make those verycomfortable choices.
Like you said.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:44):
I wouldn't say that there they're only hard choices
if you're not seeing the milliondollar return on the$20.
You're if you're they're onlyhard off.
Shit, I gotta spend$20 andyou're not focusing on the two
million, that's that's when itgets hard.
And eventually you'll trainyourself to go, you know what,
this is so worthwhile.
This is in fact who I am.
So I'm sorry to jump in there,jump.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:04):
No, no, please jump in because I mean that's a great
perspective of like I'm I'm noteven thinking about the current
moment or the the currentinvestment that I'm making.
I'm thinking about the return.
I'm thinking about the returnthat I'm gonna get based off of
when I make these choices.
That way, it's an automaticchoice, right?

(01:22:24):
It's a no-brainer.
I'm gonna get this in return, soI might as well make this
choice.
And and it doesn't become hardper se, right?
It actually becomes fairly easyor simple.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:37):
The only hard thing is is letting go of the
disempowered thoughts that don'twant you to do that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:45):
They've been living there, they've been taking up
all this energy, and they fightfor their survival, you know.
And that and that's why when itcomes to breath work, often we
need to pinch our fingers to tofocus on it.
Okay.
Yeah, often we need to be guidedto go to sleep properly in our
breathing, or have that guidancethere when we're first waking

(01:23:08):
up, and then it you access, oh,I'm just listening to someone
say breathe in, I'm justlistening to someone say breathe
out.
So simple, but that's that'swhere the magic happens.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:18):
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
100%.
Man, it's so much that I feellike we've gone through.
I can't even remember kind ofeverything that we went through.
We went through a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:30):
We Josh, we could do a part two to this.
Yeah, we can do it.
We can.
I'm open to that.
As long as we're adding valueand we're giving people
permanent access to power, parttwo is not unreasonable.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:43):
You know, I actually want to talk about that before
we go.
You talked about you know, thegift of giving somebody
something permanent, and I thinkwe can all do that, right?
Before we hopped on the podcast,like, hey, uh, before we jump
on, we want to give folkssomething that they can take
away and actually use on theirown for the rest of their life
if they choose.

(01:24:05):
And yeah, and so I mean, I wasjust thinking about, you know,
when I go into day-to-dayconversations, maybe I meet
somebody and give them someadvice to give them something
permanent that they can use thatI learned along the way, right?
So I don't know, I would love tolearn your perspective on that.
And sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:25):
Well, Josh, when you spend the time needed to become
an energetic millionaire, yourpresence with that person, when
they feel safe, when they candrop their guard, because
because let me tell you that themost valuable thing on this
planet is a true friend.

(01:24:47):
And there's a dynamic thathappens around a true friend
that we need to speak to rightnow.
Around a true friend, let's justpicture your true friend.
You can drop your guard and youcan just go, this is me, warts
and all, and you're cool withit, right?
And when we can, we don't haveto be everyone's you know, true
friend.

(01:25:07):
We can we can give them a safespace where they can feel that
they can drop their guardbecause we're not trying to
control the outcome.
And we're not trying tomanipulate them because guess
what?
I've filled up my own cup, and Iand and I so I can hold space
with you.
So this this one third of yourday invested in yourself is for
you just to hold space withanother person, and that person

(01:25:31):
gets the joy of being aroundsomebody who's who's got no
agenda, just being himself,yeah.
And if if you're in a situationwhere someone is talking more
and they're feeling listened to,just watch their energy go whoop
and and feeling known.
And and this is this is the giftwe can give others, and I and it

(01:25:53):
doesn't have to cost youanything other than the
investment in yourself, becauseif I know if I don't fill my
needs first, if I feel like Idon't have enough physical stuff
in my life, if I don't haveenough intimacy, if I don't have
enough connection to spirit, youknow, connection to my animals,
then when I'm interacting withothers, those deficits show up.

(01:26:15):
And my incompleteness is in thatspace because I'm trying to feel
my sense of lack from anotherthing outside of me.
And that other person picks upon that, and that's when the
guards go up, because I got toprotect myself, right?
But if you can genuinely go, ohman, I've just satisfied all
this.
I'm just I can genuinely holdspace with people, no strings

(01:26:35):
attached, just watch everythinggo.
Okay, so so as much as we'retalking right now and we had to
be precise about certaintechniques, I don't give advice
per se.
I give access for them to flowinto states where they can they
can access their power.

(01:26:56):
And that can be as simple ashaving no agenda.
It it really doesn't need to bethat long.
Five minutes of letting thatperson know that they're
listened to, or sending somebodya good morning.
Here's a if if someone wants totry something, two words, send
it to a circle, you might justsay, good morning, Craig, Bruce,

(01:27:21):
whatever.
Okay, and and and just sendthose words, and they're like,
Oh shit, good morning, hey, youknow, and and just that
acknowledgement of anotherperson, having them feel seen is
is gives them energy capital.
What they do with that's up tothem.
But that to me, pouring thatenergy into that space, letting

(01:27:43):
them, it's sort of like thestarter motor in the car.
So you know, when you turn thekey in the car and the and that
first starter motor spinsrapidly, and then that kicks
over the whole engine.
You what I love doing is givingpeople that starter motor
energy.
Okay, it's it's not words oradvice or anything new, but
giving them that little spark ofenergy where they go boom and

(01:28:04):
then everything else kicks in.
Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's almost like that espresso,you know.
I think about giving somebody ashot of espresso.
I want to be that shot ofespresso for somebody's life to
get them going, right?
But that starter energy and thenthey take over, right?
They take over.
No, I I love that.
And then, like you said, noagenda, no stranger attached.

(01:28:28):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:29):
Because that's so rare.
So rare.
I I can't put fuel or gas in mycar without having an agenda of
marketing shoved in my eyes.
Yeah.
You know, so so to actually haveno agenda with people is is
really refreshing and and quiteuh quite rare.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:45):
You know?

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:46):
Yeah, it's a different energy, it's a lighter
energy.
And that only, like you said,when you do the work of being
that energetic millionaire andhaving that that energy in you,
where you really don't, youreally don't need anything.
You you're kind of good eitherway.
And you're not looking tocontrol outside outcomes to make
your inner world feel better,right?

(01:29:09):
Your inner world is alreadygood, and what's going on on the
outside, you're good either way,right?
So I love it.
Tim, where can people find you?
Where can people get in touchwith you, continue to follow
your journey?
We'll probably need a part twoat some point, because I feel
like I can just talk to youuntil it's nighttime over there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:32):
So well, I I'm so appreciative of the technology,
technological age we have.
All right.
So I'm in I'm in Brisbane,Australia.
Where are you right now?

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:45):
Chicago, Chicago, Illinois.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:47):
Chicago, okay, right.
Probably probably dark overthere, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:50):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:51):
If so, so this is where you have to realize the
power you have as human beings.
When we make other people feelconnected, their energy goes up.
And we're on different sides ofthe planet right now, but we're
communicating and we're bothsuper energized.

(01:30:12):
I know I am, and it seems likeyou know you are too.
And we can only hope that thatthe energetic space we've
created is flowing out toothers.
Now, for those people who wantto flourish this out in their
own time, I've created a veryeasy way to turn your bed into a
cloud tonight and then turn itinto a trampoline in the

(01:30:33):
morning.
And all you have to do is tellit when you want to sleep, when
you want to wake up, becausebusy people just want something
that sort of falls out of theirphone and gives it to them,
right?
If you just go into your phoneright now, doesn't matter if
it's Android or Smart, go intothe app store and look up three

(01:30:53):
very important words.
Breath work, first word, in bed.
You look up those three words,tell it when you want to
download it, obviously.
Tell it when you want to sleep,when you want to wake up, and it
it you can choose a 28-day freeoption if you want to just test

(01:31:15):
it.
But if you want to have theexperience of power of your own
breath, your own resources,because the the app's not the
powerful thing in the equation,your lungs the the guided
experience of the Breath WorkingBed app will have you realize we

(01:31:38):
don't own lungs, we own amedicine cabinet with a lot of
different shelves.
And if you can be one of the fewpeople that connect to your
breath as you go into yourunconscious and as you're waking
up in the morning, you're gonnabe one of the few people knowing

(01:32:00):
their own sovereign power.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:04):
This is, and I'm taking a look at it now.
28 28-day free trial, and it'ssomething to follow.
I mean, this is this is I mean,if folks got a chance to
experience what I experience inthe breath, right?
This is a very simple app thatI'm taking a look at right now.
I have it on my iPad right now,28-day free trial, and it looks

(01:32:29):
uh welded up.
Obviously, you know, like I toldyou, built apps, and being able
to take a look at this, I'mlike, man, this is a this is a
pretty cool app that you gothere.
And it works on my iPad too.
So you you've done things withiPad as well.
So it for folks that don't know,you you have to develop an app

(01:32:50):
that works for the iPad as well.
And so for it to work on theiPad, it's pretty legit.
So perfect.
This breathwork app breath workis one word, and then I'll make
sure that I put this this linkin the footnotes of this episode
so folks can take a look at it.
But if you want to be, like youmentioned, an energetic

(01:33:13):
millionaire, I love what did yousay?
You said a trampoline jumpingout the bed, but what did you
say?

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:18):
You literally tonight, if you trial this, you
will turn your bed into a cloudtonight.
And if and if by chance you wakeup at 2 a.m., this is gonna be
your best friend.
Because I know me, when if if Iif this is how I develop this in
the middle of hell, I discoveredsomething that worked, and it
worked every freaking time, youknow, and and that's why I

(01:33:40):
thought, well, it would be ifyou do find something that
works, you've got to find waysto give other people access.
And this is what my my sort ofwork is.
And again, I'll say this tostart with: it's not a it starts
with getting an awesome night'ssleep and feeling awesome within
yourself, and then it turns intoseeing all these seeds of

(01:34:05):
greatness flourishing, and theywere always there, they were
just waiting for you to improvethe soil, to improve the sleep.
And the world we live in, youknow, if there's a tree with the
trunk in the wrong shape or thenot not having the fruit that
they want, everyone looks forwhat's obvious.
But if you really understandtrees, you'll go into the soil,

(01:34:26):
you improve that.
So, what I do isn't particularlyspectacular, right?
You can't show off having a goodnight's sleep walking down the
beach, all right?
But but those who are listeningright now will see that
everything grows out of yoursleep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:43):
Yeah, you go into the soil, you go into the soil
of it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:48):
Unseen, man.
Unseen.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:49):
Yeah, and it's the sleep.
And and we we we didn't even geta chance to really go into the
sleep.
And remember, I before we evenhit record, I was like, sleep is
what I want to talk to.
But I think, but I I think,first of all, I definitely want
to bring you back on to reallydive into sleep, why it's

(01:35:11):
important, and why folk folksstruggle with it, the benefits
of it, and breath work of uhbefore you go to sleep and
waking up, the the effects ofwhat they can do.
So I got a ton of I got a lot ofquestions when it comes to just
sleep itself, too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:29):
So perfect, happy to do that.
Although it would be a greatexperience for those people who
dive into that app and get thatexperience.
Yeah, then when we do this nextprogram, people are gonna be
like, oh, that's what the guywas talking about.
You know what I mean?
So you can you can you can havethat lived experience.
I really encourage people to toto do that.

(01:35:50):
Yeah, I can't I can't do whatyou do, but if I can you know
improve the quality of yoursleep, then you know you're
gonna bring your gifts into theworld and it's gonna be so much
more awesome place to live in.

SPEAKER_01 (01:35:59):
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
Well, Tim, this has been uh man,this has been a great podcast.
I mean, uh I mean, we've been onhere for for over an hour
already.
Have we?
I think so, right?
Uh almost two hours, right?
Well at least at least when meand you jumped on together, it's

(01:36:21):
been two hours.
I don't know if we've hit recordfor two hours.
But man, uh, you know, like Isaid, just the magic of a
conversation and just addingvalue.
And I think we've done a lot ofthat today.
And you just share so much goldand so many things that folks
can take away from this thisepisode.
So I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:39):
I highly recommend people listen to this a couple
of times because it there's youknow, Josh and I, we we talk
very quick energy exchange.
So if you listen to this again,you'll get layers and layers of
stuff.
And and remember, integrate thatbreath, that that power button
breathing, because that that isinstant access, my friends, to

(01:37:03):
your own power.
Okay, and if we don't own ourown power, someone else is gonna
own it.
Yeah, so you know, I'm justgiving you a bit of cheese smell
and cat smell there to um toaccess as we as we part our
ways.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:17):
I love it.
I know I'm taking it with me.
This is permanent for me.
So I love it.
I'll take it.
I take it.
Well, Tim, we appreciate you andyou know, looking forward to to
having you back on the show.
I love it.

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