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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lord you know.
Hey guys, you are now listeningto Plays on Word Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
It's the best he
comes to find out, it's the
president's motorcade.
By God's grace, he was able towalk around to the other side of
one of these vehicles.
The window rolled down andthere was the president of Haiti
.
He said I had three minutes totell him about Jesus, and he did
To the point where thepresident asked for a Bible.
He went back into the missionhouse, got a Bible, gave it to
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the president.
As soon as that ended, the roadopened up and off went the
motorcade.
I think it was the followingnight he was assassinated.
Your big name.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Your big name, your
big name.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
All right.
So let's welcome these guys tothe Plays on Word radio program.
Welcome, this is a long timecoming, you guys.
This has been a minute.
We are with Patrick and Pam.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Hess.
Yes, longtime friends of oursbrother and sister in Christ.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And these guys, you
guys would be considered
playmakers for Plays on Word.
Absolutely right, Playmakers,Not just playground section, but
playmakers, People that make.
Actually, this radio programyou guys are listening to right
now in part is made possible bythese guys here.
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And you guys head up a ministrycalled Step of Faith.
What is that?
Tell our listeners, tell uswhat it is.
What do?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
you guys do Well,
first of all, it's great to
finally be able to meet with youguys like this and have this
time.
I know we've been trying for awhile.
So Step of Faith ministrystarted gosh back in 2003 by our
founder, bob Hager, and hiswife, sue.
Bob had been going to Haiti for20 plus years prior to the
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actual name of Step of Faith,and he was going down when there
was no electricity, when therewas times he was in villages and
the children were trying to rubthe white off his skin because
they couldn't understand why hewasn't the same color as they
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were.
And around 2002, they werestarting to get like people who
wanted to help and givedonations and things like that.
So Bob said it was best to makea Christian nonprofit.
So Step of Faith was born in2003.
And over the last 22 years now,it has evolved to include, as
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you guys know, a lot ofdifferent aspects.
As you guys know, a lot ofdifferent aspects.
We have continued in Haiti forall of these years with helping
with the medical clinic andfeeding programs, children going
to school and college andbringing teams down so that they
can experience sharing thegospel.
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In a country like Haiti, wealso have local ministries, a
tutoring program right herewhere we're from, in Brick, new
Jersey, as well as Atlantic City.
We have teams that go downthere every summer and partner
with New City Fellowship, and in2014, we were introduced to the
country of Albania by our goodfriend, mike Durante, who grew
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up with Sue.
So a lot of relationships herethroughout the ministry and, as
you guys are aware, you guyscame with us some years later.
So it's a ministry centered onsharing the gospel in ways that
we can also provide necessaryneeds and it just opens the door
for people to be willing tohear about Jesus Christ, as
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we're meeting the needs,practical needs such as food and
education and things like that.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, kind of the
whole idea behind Step of Faith
was to be like the hub of awheel, like you guys have heard
before, with all the spokesgoing out to all these different
entities and ways to share thegospel and be the hands and feet
of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Amen.
One of the things that I'venoticed is that you guys are
connectors in many ways.
You guys connect.
You connect Certain ministriesthat would never have connected,
but the common denominator isChrist.
But when you look at it, thetools that Christ is using it's
Step of Faith Ministries andwe'll talk about that in a
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minute, more of the connectionsbut we have connections,
lifelong connections, with otherministries because of you guys.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, Step of Faith
is actually a supporter of ours.
Yes, this radio programwouldn't be happening, and Pam
is on our board.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, I'm getting to
that.
I plan on getting to that.
Yeah, pam has been and Patrickboth have been.
Just, you guys have been very,very important in making the
things that we do possible.
So we are an example of theconnectivity from from step of
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faith.
And Mike, even Mike Durante,he's been on the program.
Many of you have been blessed.
He's the dude that was talkingabout Albania and he and the and
the what the air force general.
He was in the hotel and thegeneral was like you need to get
out of here before the bombsstart dropping.
Yeah, that was quite a story.
A lot of people remember that,yeah, mike doesn't tell tall
tales, he's telling the truth.
So I want to back up, though,before we get into how you guys
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met Jesus and how you guys met,we have to back up maybe, maybe
18, 20 years, something likethat.
And we were all at one place,at Fellowship Chapel in New
Jersey and that's another storyfor a connection and Pastor
Cliff, the Gettysburg guy, youradio people listening.
Now he's the pastor there.
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So you're starting to see someof these connections.
Pam, you went on a mission tripand Katie, you'll back me up on
this, right Pam went on herfirst mission trip to Haiti, and
when Pam came back, everybodywas all excited.
They wanted to talk to her, andI'll never forget this Pam was.
She basically was like time out.
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You guys, I need to go, I haveto go figure out, I have to just
digest what just happened.
It was such a life-changingtype of experience.
Can you just talk about that?
Because I remember wanting totalk to you, but you were like I
can't talk, I just have nowords right now.
I have to process it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, it was
definitely top five experiences
in my life was the first timegoing to Haiti.
We can watch on TV, we can hearabout countries in need, we can
support children in third worldcountries, as I was told by
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Craig Bogart from Aslan YouthMinistries, who took me on my
first trip.
He said I can prepare you asmuch as possible, but it's not
going to prepare you for whatyou're going to experience
emotionally, spiritually.
And he was so right.
I remember at that time wewould walk across the bridge
literally from the DominicanRepublic into Haiti, and you're
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walking out of a town calledDahabon in the Dominican
Republic and it's a poor townbut it has electricity and power
lines and stores and sidewalksand paved streets.
And then you cross this littlebridge that takes you over the
Massac River and you are face toface with, in my opinion, one
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of the poorest countries in theworld.
It is the poorest country inthe Western Hemisphere, it's one
of the poorest in the entireworld.
And you're face to face with ariver that was only like a
quarter of the way deep and inthat river I can still see it
today there were childrenplaying, children taking baths,
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cows and other animals walkingamongst the river, people
washing their clothes, peoplewashing their vegetables.
It's such a polluted river, butit was like their only water
source.
And I just remember walkingover and looking at that and
then looking ahead of me and thewhole landscape was nothing but
brown dirt.
There were no trees, they haddeforest the area.
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This is a Wannmyth, and thatweek was just one of the most
amazing weeks of my life inshowing me how people who love
Jesus choose to live with joy inthe hardest circumstances I've
seen in the you know, 25 yearsof being a Christian.
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And it did.
It just rocked me.
And when I came home, Iremember like I didn't want to
go anywhere.
I did not even want to open upmy refrigerator.
I remember turning on my faucetand crying because I had
running water, which therehadn't been for the week I was
there, bathrooms, I mean justthe things we easily take for
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granted.
They were living without, andthere's still people today in
Haiti living without that.
So it was a very impactful tripand one that led me to want to
bring others down there, whichI've had the privilege of doing
for the last 15 years.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I remember you I
think it was that trip.
You came back and you weretelling us how some of the
people were eating dirt.
I'm still, all these yearslater, I'm still trying to
comprehend.
Like, wait what?
And yet can you talk about thepoverty that you saw?
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But yet, at the same time, yousaid the worship experience, the
praise, was such a—I'll let youspeak.
I'll let you speak.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, to the point of
the dirt.
Yes, that still happens inHaiti today, in some of the
villages, when they go throughtheir droughts, when they—or
like what happened four yearsago with the assassination of
their president They've had nogovernment, prices are sky high,
people have no jobs and themoms, out of desperation, will
make mud pies or mud cookies outof oil and dirt and a little
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salt, and they bake them in thesun and they feed them to their
children, just so theirchildren's stomachs aren't
growling and aren't there's inpain from being hungry.
Now, obviously, the problem isthat makes them sick and then
it's a.
You know, it's a revolving doorof death and and also that is
still going on today why we havea feeding program throwing a
little rice to add you know alittle nutrition, but yeah, I'm
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trying I'm trying to processthat like the I just I I don't
get that well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, here's a,
here's a quick.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, here's a quick
story.
This this was not on the firsttrip, but it was a a trip after
that when I started to bringteams down and we would.
We would do a vacation bibleschool for the children and it
would be two days with the boys,two days with the girls, up on
this property again that ourfriends from Aslan Youth
Ministries own and havedeveloped and Step of Faith has
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helped develop, after you know,over these years and we would
feed the children each day a bigplate of rice and beans with a
little bit of fish and sauce,because for some of these
children, it was still theironly meal of the day and it was
early on.
It might have been around 2013,2014.
I was handing a plate to achild and, through our
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interpreter, she said somethingand our interpreter said, no,
she's not going to accept theplate of food, and I said I
don't understand why not.
And then the child spoke againthrough our interpreter and he
said she told me it's not herday to eat.
It just stopped me in my tracksAgain.
Just a time of crying and atime of even questioning God,
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like Lord, why are you allowingthese children to live in just
the most desperate of situations, she ate the plate of food.
We talked to her.
We told her all the childrenpresent there were going to eat,
because she had other siblingswith her and she felt like her
siblings were going to eat, butit wasn't her day to eat.
So, yeah, it's very difficultdown there with the poverty.
There was another part to yourquestion that just went out of
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my mind, though the worship, ohthe worship, oh my goodness.
They worship with abandonment.
I wish everyone from up herecan go down and experience their
time of worship.
It is both beautiful andpowerful.
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I remember, under a mango tree,when there wasn't a church on
the property and they sangAmazing Grace in Creole, a
cappella, and I stood therealmost like shaking.
It was that beautiful and youjust felt the presence of the
Holy Spirit, knowing that thesepeople again are living in
little huts with no bathrooms,no running water, no electricity
.
They don't know when their nextmeal is coming, and yet they
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come together and just worship,and you know that their faith is
so true.
There's no playing church downin Haiti.
You're either a believer oryou're not, and those who are,
they don't hide it, they just.
They worship their creator,they thank their creator, even
if they don't know when they'regoing to eat again.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
It makes me think of.
I think it's in Psalm I wastrying to look it up while we're
talking, but I think it's Psalm95, something about powerful
worship and it doesn't matter,you know, what tongue you're
speaking in when the Spirit'smoving.
And like, you can feel thatthere.
We could feel it in Albania.
We were in Italy, you know.
So, like when the Spirit moves,it doesn't matter what language
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you're praising in, you canfeel it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And the beauty of our
God is I could be standing next
to a multimillionaire that'spraising God, and then I could
stand next to somebody who hasabsolutely nothing but praising
God and he goes beyond theborders that we often put up.
Pam went on that trip, but weat the same time we were also
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praying for Pam, pam's husband,who she wasn't married yet, and
we were praying for, for the manthat the Lord would bring into
her life, and I don't rememberhow many years after that first
trip.
But then Patrick arrives on thescene and, um, patrick, uh, she
brought you down to Haiti.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Um, right, yeah, you
hadn't been to haiti until you
met pam, so tell us about the,uh, that experience for you well
, if you don't mind, I'm goingto just kind of back up a little
bit like so um I was living innorth carolina, where you're at
now and, um, my church put outkind of an apB saying hey,
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there's this couple moving fromPoint Pleasant, new Jersey, to
North Carolina, going to begoing to a church right down
there, not too far from whereI'm at, and I just volunteered.
I didn't know this couple, Ijust said, yeah, I'll help them
unload their belongings.
And it was John Forsythe Johnand Allison Forsythe.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Uncle Jack.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
From Fellowship
Chapel another connection so I
volunteered to help.
We became friends.
They said hey, we have thisfriend that lives in New Jersey.
She wants to go to a NASCARrace, not trying to set you up.
So anyway, we, you know, and Iwasn't a big NASCAR fan, so I he
asked me like six months inadvance, and it came down to
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like two months, um, away fromthis actually happening.
I was trying to come up with anexcuse as to why I wasn't going
to go and I, you know, Iprocrastinated and I didn't.
So I met Pam and she's talkingabout it.
She had just got back fromHaiti, so she's talking about
this trip and I'm being honest,Was this the first?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
this was this was
your first trip, right, Pam?
Was it the first trip you wenton or was this the second?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
one.
No, yeah, when we met, I hadbeen on three trips.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Okay, okay, yeah, all
right.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But I was captivated.
I was new to being a Christianand I'm listening to this woman
speak about something from herheart and it just, it just
reeled me in and it reallytouched me in a profound way,
the one that I've never, in away that I've never been touched
before.
And, and you know, I'm like,wow, there's something different
.
You know, I was pretty shallow,you know, especially when it
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came to women, and I'm listeningto this woman's heart and I
just sensed something different.
And so we started talking andwe knew within like three to six
months that we were going toget married.
And as soon as we did, I wenton a trip and, yeah, it was
everything that she said.
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It was just so amazing to beloved on, and she had already
kind of planted seeds there andkind of developed friendships
and relationships, and everybodyjust kind of took to me and
brought me in as I like I waspart of their family, and so,
yeah, that's that's how it,that's how it all began, and I
got the bug she had, I believe.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Patrick's
introduction to the New Jersey
friends and family happened inour backyard.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
It did yes.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
With the 80th or 80
closest friends of a meet and
greet.
The poor guy was overwhelmed.
No pressure, no pressure.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean,
you got to realize that so many
people were praying for, prayingfor Pam's husband for years.
And it's like, come see thefulfillment of your prayers.
And now poor Patrick.
He's like, come see thefulfillment of your prayers.
And now, poor patrick, he'slike I've got to live up to this
expectation.
I'm like, oh man, we put, weput some, uh, some unnecessary
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pressure on this poor young guy.
Oh man, but yeah, so you endedup going um down down now.
Was that the trip that jimmcconnell's went on with?
And and um who the doc?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
um burz on no, they
had gone on some.
They had gone on um dan burz,on dr dan he had been on a
couple trips.
Uh well, every year he would goto a different location in
haiti.
It wasn't until patrick uhhelped to put the medical clinic
on the property that Dan camedown a couple times and Jim came
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on one of those trips to kindof see the clinic how it was
working and, if it was, you know, kind of check the box that it
was ready to open.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I remember asking I
think it was you, patrick,
because you're a constructioncontractor type guy and I
remember asking about thebuilding codes in Haiti.
And that's the exact response Igot there aren't any.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
There aren't any,
just just get it done.
Yeah, I saw some things, butyou know it's you got to do what
you got to do.
You know with, with what you've, what's available to work with,
and and oftentimes there'sthere's not much yeah, there you
don't have a local Lowe's orHome Depot there to go.
Oh, we need this specific bolt,you know, yeah, but that's one
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thing that we tried to instillin them a little bit is, you
know, you got to try to buildthings as right as you can just
to get some longevity out of it,especially when it's people's
donations and support and prayerthat's providing what they're
providing.
You know.
So you want it to last right,right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So then, just moving
forward a little bit, the the uh
, then the earthquake happenedwas port-au-prince earthquake.
Was it 2011, 2010?
I forget the date, butsomewhere early to 2010,
somewhere around there, um Ithink that was 2010 because a
lot happened in 2010.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I mean, we got
married Like yeah, there was a
lot going on.
Then that was January, january9th or so of 2010.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I remember
sending out a prayer request to
people pray as if you were underthe rubble because there was so
much devastation and thecountry's been.
I mean, you guys were therewhen the president got shot
there, right, weren't you there?
You were on the ground.
Yes, I remember right, katie,we were we were like katie was
like I think pam's, pam, I'mlike pam's over there right now
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I said, yo, that was anotherlike amazing moment um,
definitely top 10 moments,because you wouldn't think so.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But we had a team of
uh 18 and there were three
missionaries down there alreadystaying at the mission house and
we had only been there, I think, two days Now.
Mind you, we're on the borderof Dominican Republic, so we're
far from Port-au-Prince, but itdoesn't matter when your
president has just beenassassinated.
You know, it's a lockdown oneverything.
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And I remember the morninggetting up and I saw Joseph,
who's our director.
We stay on top of his home.
Step of Faith built the missionhouse up there, so his family
is down below, we're up top andwe always have a security guard
in the front of the property.
There's a fence around it andall, and he stays there all
night.
Well, this particular morningthere were three or four
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security guards out front andJoseph's talking with them, and
I just felt like there wassomething not right.
So I went downstairs and Iasked him.
I said, joseph, what's going on?
And his response was thegovernment is dead.
And I said what do you mean thegovernment is dead?
And he said the president wasassassinated at 2 am in his
palace in Port-au-Prince.
Am in his palace inPort-au-Prince and for like five
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seconds it was like oh no.
But it was immediately followedby.
I felt like the Lord said Ibrought you down here, I knew it
was going to happen, you'regoing to be fine and you're
going to get everybody out.
And we just went upstairs.
I talked to the missionaries.
We then brought the teamtogether.
We told them what happened.
We gave them what happened.
We gave them a few moments togo through their shock, told
them to reach out to theirfamilies.
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Not to look at the news, becauseI had actually pulled up on my
phone the headlines and on oneof the local news up here in
America it showed a picture oflike tens of thousands of people
in the streets ofPort-au-Prince and I'm like this
is not real.
And I brought it downstairs andI showed Joseph and he goes
that's not real.
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So even our own news was notcovering it properly.
So I told the team to make suretheir parents knew to wait on
us for the proper news.
Obviously, patrick knew ourpastor knew you guys.
We started getting the word out.
Everyone was praying and theLord allowed us to accomplish
85% of what we needed to do.
We stayed the whole time.
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We have a lawyer down there whowas monitoring everything and
it was safe.
We had security with us thewhole time and God still
accomplished what he brought usdown there to do.
And you know we all formed avery special bond on that trip.
Not something probably willever be duplicated, but we saw
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God's hand in it and we wereable to be there for our friends
, amen.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I was just struck by
the peace that you had as you
were going through it,communicating with all of us,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
When Paul writes in
Philippians, he talks about the
peace that surpasses allunderstanding, in the Teddy
translation, peace that makes nosense.
When you are in the midst of it, it makes no sense to have
peace.
But yet, because of yourrelationship with the Lord,
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because of, I mean, that'ssomething that the world does
not have.
The world doesn't have that.
The world has the panic button,oh my God.
And then they have to lie tothemselves oh, maybe it'll,
maybe, maybe, maybe I'll.
Let me talk myself into beingcalm here.
But you know, the believer hasaccess to a peace that is
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outside of their situation andis not dependent on, is not
dependent on the situation.
It's dependent on the object ofour faith, who, the person?
And that's why we can havepeace in the midst of a storm or
in the midst.
I mean, you're, this soundslike a Netflix movie or a
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Netflix TV show.
Your missionaries are in aforeign country.
They wake up and guess what?
The president has beenassassinated.
That's when the music startsand it's dun-dun-dun and it
sounds like some kind of movie.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
This is a really good
lesson, because, as you had
that piece and we're praying forthat piece and we're praying
for you and we're praying foryour safety, and then the
thought just had come to me that, okay, well, she's not worried
about it, it helped me focus myprayers.
All right, lord, you've gotthem protected.
Help them accomplish what theyneed to accomplish show them.
You know, um, what's going tocome through this.
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Help them remain focused.
So your reaction helped ourreaction and our prayers, amen.
I mean, what a lesson is that?
As we just you know, walk downthe street and you know people.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You don't never know
who's watching you, who's
looking at, who's witnessingyour testimony and could I just
share um a quick two testimoniesthat actually came out of that.
That really strengthened ourfaith.
While we were in the midst ofit, one of the girls that was
down there as a missionary had a.
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The next morning after, likethe day later when we were
talking and all, she came up tome and she said can I please
share something with you?
And I said, of course.
And she said I had a dream thenight that this happened, that
the president was going to beassassinated and she goes.
I don't want to share this withmany people.
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They're going to think I'mcrazy, but I went to bed that
night and I had a dream that wewere woken up in the morning and
told that the president wasassassinated at 2 am and that's
when he was assassinated.
So this young girl 23, 22, veryin tune with the spirit, that
was one testimony.
The second came from our goodfriend, karis Hudson, who is the
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CEO of Danita's Orphanage.
That's right there in Wanamith,an orphanage of 80 plus
children, has been down therefor over 25 years.
She told me that she couldn'tsleep the night before that she
was so restless that sheactually got all of her older
boys up and they prayed rightthrough the night and then heard
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about the assassination and thethird testimony and this to me
was the best one.
After the shock kind of wore offwith the team and we were
debriefing and we were talking Iheard it from different team
members.
I pray that this presidentheard the gospel.
We pray that he heard thegospel before his life was taken
, because it was brutally taken.
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And a few days later it wasRachel, one of the team members
at the time, a young team memberlike 15, on her first mission
trip to Haiti.
She received a text from herparents with an article through
Calvary Chapel and I'll justkind of power phrase it there is
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a Calvary Chapel inPort-au-Prince at the time and
the pastor was in front of thecompound.
And this happens often in Haiti.
You're going down a road andall of a sudden you come to a
stop because a truck overturnedor a truck is stuck in the road
or something we we always saywe're on haiti time because it's
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very slow going, and he's infront of his compound and he
sees this procession of cars,dark windows, tinted, and they
stopped right in front of thecompound because a truck had
been disabled.
Something happened further upon the road.
He came to find out.
By the way, this was a day ortwo days before the
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assassination.
Important piece of informationhe comes to find out it's the
president's motorcade and he wasable to speak to someone and
say I would like to speak to thepresident.
By God's grace, he was able towalk around to the other side of
one of these vehicles.
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The window rolled down andthere was the president of Haiti
.
He said I had three minutes totell him about Jesus and he did
to the point where the presidentasked for a Bible.
He went back into the missionhouse, got a Bible, gave it to
the president.
As soon as that ended, the roadopened up and off went the
(28:57):
motorcade and I think it was thefollowing night he was
assassinated.
So when we got that information, we were like praising the Lord
, like you said it doesn't makesense, right, like you're in the
midst of such a horriblesituation, but God was showing
us how we can praise him throughit and even giving us that
information that the presidentdid hear the gospel just a day
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or so before he was gonna beassassinated.
So it just was such a faithbuilding trip for everyone who
was on that one.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Amen, amen.
We're gonna continue this nextweek, I promise.
But until then, the Lord blessyou and keep you.
The Lord make his face to shineupon you and be gracious to you
.
The Lord lift up hiscountenance upon you and give
you peace.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
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