March 21, 2025 • 22 mins
"Today we continue with Catherine Wilberton as she shares her journey as both a faith-filled beekeeper and business owner."
Catherine Wilberton shares her journey as both a beekeeper and a business owner, revealing how her faith informs every aspect of her life from harvesting honey to managing her water treatment company.
• Became interested in beekeeping after a childhood incident where her family was attacked by wasps while she remained unharmed
• Harvests honey once a year as a family celebration, though admits it's more expensive than buying honey
• Runs Patterson's Water & Plumbing with a team that allows her to focus on business development
• Started a complementary well testing business that meets New Jersey state requirements
• Came to faith through a strong youth group led by mentors who remain influential in her life
• Contemplating the future of her business, possibly transitioning to employee ownership
• Believes God places difficult people in our lives so we'll pray for those who may have no one interceding for them
Reflect on who God has placed in your heart to pray for today – perhaps someone who annoys you is actually someone who needs your spiritual support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lord, you know you will now listen to Plays on Word
Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the best.
Yeah, isn't that amazing whenyou think about that?
Like there's people out therethat don't even know who Jesus
is and it's just like no one hasever.
I always think about that, likewhen you meet some random
person and you wonder, you heara little bit a snippet about
their life and you're like huh,who's praying for this person?
(00:25):
Like we all have people prayingfor us, we know that, but
there's so many people out therethat have nobody praying for
them.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You're the only name.
You're the only name.
You're the only name.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hello and welcome to Plays on Word Radio, where we
discuss, analyze, work and playon the Word of God.
Thank you for joining us onthis excursion.
Today let's join Pastor Teddy,also known as Fred David Kenny
Jr, the founder of Plays on WordTheater, as he does a deep dive
into the Word of God.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, so tell me about this bee thing, Because
the last time we were in Jackson, I remember you made a
statement that has just stuckwith me.
You're like I get stung all thetime and I'm not down with that
idea.
It doesn't hurt that bad, Imean it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You gave us some honey, it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But I tell you yeah, that local honey was.
There's something about that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, it was in fact I I didn't even have bad
allergies when that that year Iwas good to go.
So when I was a kid that thathouse on harmony road that's
where I grew up and my mom sentmy brothers and my dad and I
into the woods.
There were blueberries there.
It was in the morning, like asaturday morning, and we were
picking blueberries and puttingthem in little you know
(02:01):
tupperware things and I wasprobably I don know 20 feet from
them.
They were all together and oneof them stepped on a beehive or
something.
It wasn't honeybees, but Ididn't know that at the time.
I was probably like eight yearsold and they started like
running out of the woods, armsflaring all over the place, and
(02:22):
I didn't know what was going on.
So I ran after them and theygot hundreds of stings all over
them in their mouth, oh, and Ididn't get, and I didn't get one
.
So I thought I was special.
I thought I was like oh, thebees like me, they didn't sting
me, or the opposite, maybe they,yeah, and I didn't realize it
wasn't bees, it was probablywasps that were attacking them,
(02:45):
but I was always since a littlegirl I was fascinated with bees,
just because of that oneincident.
And then, you know, fast forward, I don't know, 15, 20 years
late, you know ago.
I'm at a customer's house inJackson and he's a beekeeper and
he brings me into his bee yardand opens up a hive.
(03:05):
We're not wearing any of thegarb.
He just says go.
I told him the story.
I always wanted to be abeekeeper.
He told me how easy it is.
He goes oh, here's somemagazines, you can order bees,
you can order your equipment.
He brought me there and openedup the hive.
The bees are flying all over.
It was just fascinating, thesmell of the hive and the bees
are flying all over really.
And I was just fascinating thesmell of the, of the wax and and
(03:28):
the honey and the pollen andthey're all over yeah and it
didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I didn't get stung once and I was like I could do
this so you're just scared.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No, I no, not at all, not at all.
Yeah and and yeah, I'vegottenung, but really they're
not attacking you there.
They're not going to stingeverything that they land on.
They're going to sting you ifyou're aggravating them.
So I just make sure, like myhair is tied up, I'm not wearing
jewelry, like I'm not wearinganything that they can get
caught in or under, and and yeah, I mean it just does it hurt,
(04:02):
yeah, but it's just like ithurts for a second and yeah.
I mean it just does it hurt.
Yeah, but it's just like ithurts for a second.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know it's not.
It's not terrible.
Yeah, I found that if you don'tappear to be a threat, a lot of
times they just leave you alone.
They go around you.
I wasn't a threat in the woods.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's why they left me alone, because I didn't have,
I wasn't panicking, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So I used to climb telephone poles back in the day
and I remember going up thistelephone pole and the wasps
would build their nest in thetelephone box up on the pole.
And I'm telling you I went upthis a bunch of times.
I would go up there and thewasp would actually come out of
the hive and sit there and lookat me.
And it wasp would actually comeout of the hive and sit there
and look at me and it wasunnerving.
(04:45):
So I had to slow down tocomplete slow motion just to let
him know I'm moving this way,I'm not a threat, I'm not a
threat and I'm sitting theretalking to this wasp.
But I would rather do that thanuse the spray that they gave me
that wipes them out, if I canat all avoid that.
So are there any benefits in inuh, in making your own honey,
(05:07):
besides the price?
Good grief, did you see theprice?
I looked at the jar the otherday.
It was like 12 bucks for like asmall jar yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I don't make the honey, they make it and I
steal it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So I'm just a honey thief.
That's the christian thingexactly no it's it, it's
wonderful.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So we have.
You know we use.
I don't use the pollen yet, butI use the beeswax and the
propolis I use so you can use alot of stuff from the hive and
it's honestly it's moreexpensive keeping bees than
buying honey.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know I think, oh my gosh, I could be buying
organic honey from down thestreet a lot cheaper than doing
all this.
But I love it, it's calming andit's a great hobby and I love
it.
And then once a year we have weharvest the honey and it's a
big.
You know, it's a big deal in myfamily.
All the kids come over.
We make a big deal out of it.
We have a meal together.
(06:01):
It's just, it's it's reallynice wait a second, so it's once
.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
a year is when you get the honey from it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, so I only do it .
When I lived on Harmony Road Ionly did it once a year, just
because you know, I never.
You know, the most hives I everhad was like six.
So I gather all the honey andthen it's a process because I
have this huge extractor.
It would be in my kitchen, it'sa messy ordeal I want it.
I want it done in a day.
I get it now.
(06:27):
Where I live, I have a barnwith a.
I call it my bee room.
There's like a little sectionof it all my bee stuff, so I'll
harvest throughout the seasonnow space?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
yeah, do you let them ?
Um, do you have like farmersthat want to rent them out from
you, like, can I get some bees?
Can I get your bees?
Can you help my corn crop?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's funny.
Larry thinks I should startthis whole side gig doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I've seen people do that.
I've seen people do it downhere.
I didn't know that was a thing,it's a thing, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's a thing.
Yeah, I'm not there yet.
I'm too busy.
I down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I saw people down here pull up like a flatbed and
they had the boxes, like you had.
You had the hives.
They placed them down right atthe edge of this field.
The farmers pay them.
The farmers pay them.
Yes, I'm like hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's win-win.
You get paid by the farmer andthen you can sell that honey.
You know like, we live inHamilton, which is the blueberry
capital of the world, so I cansay it's blueberry flavored
honey.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So it's neat.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
One day.
I'll not now too many movingparts in life right now.
So if someone from Plays Onwardradio audience wants to order
some honey from you, can theyjust email you directly and
what's the charge?
Yeah, so I don't even sell it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yet we always said oh , when we hit 100 pounds you
know harvesting 100 pounds ayear we'll sell it, and we have
surpassed that.
And we don't sell it yet.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It was fantastic.
It was so good that and wedon't sell it yet.
It was fantastic, it was sogood, it was way better than
like the golden, golden blossomstuff we we got now.
Katie does a dirty trick to mebecause I'm a snob when it comes
to honey.
I only like to enjoy honey thatis shipped, purchased in a
glass bottle glass, jar glassjar right exactly yeah and so
(08:30):
katie.
Uh, I don't think it's groundsfor divorce, but it's definitely
not not a good thing.
Yeah, she, she went to shopright or somewhere and got the
plastic bear honey in a in aplastic bottle and dumped it out
of that and put it in a glassjar dumped it out of that and
put it in a glass jar.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did you know the difference?
Did you know it?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Instinctively I knew deep down I said something ain't
right here, Because my palateis kind of refined.
First, of all.
I cannot believe that'sdeception.
The Lord is not happy with that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I cannot believe you put me out there like that.
Just call me Speedbump, that'smy new nickname.
I cannot believe you put me outthere.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I had to.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm still upset about this.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
This is how upset I am about this, Catherine.
That's how upset I am.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was Costco for the big bottle, because it was
about the budget.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I agree with Katie.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Budget comes first I'm still kind of traumatized
from that because I'm like Iknew something.
It's almost like taking ashower without a shower filter
on and thinking you have ashower filter.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm not even telling myself, because you didn't find
that out.
I told you I was doing that Iinstinctively knew something
wasn't right.
I just felt I had to come clean.
Yeah, I was so satisfied thatit had to happen for so many
years that I'd let you in on ityeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So to happen for so many years that I'd let you in
on it.
Yeah, yeah, so that's funny.
So you know what I did to myhusband when we moved?
He had this ugly, ugly, uglyIkea hat rack not the hat rack
that goes on the wall, but thestandup one.
He wears fedoras, so he hadthis and it was ugly, so he
wasn't here when.
when he wasn't here when, um, wemoved.
He travels a lot, so he wasn'there when we moved.
(10:11):
He travels a lot.
So when the movers and I cansay this on air because I
already fessed up to him.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But when?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
the movers came, they held this up and they said
where does this go?
And I said, hmm, does it haveto go anywhere?
So good, and for about fourmonths Larry's walking around.
Where is my hat?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
rack.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He's looking all over in the barn in the basement and
I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I don't know, maybe we left it on Harmony Road.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So, finally, it's around Christmas time and we're
shopping downtown in thisantique store and he asked them
for a hat rack, if they have acoat hanger or a hat rack, and
I'm thinking, oh, maybe they'llhave a nice wooden one and no
guess what.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
The same one.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They walk up to him with the same one, but in rat
ear like it's missing half thescrews and he paid double the
amount for it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm like oh my gosh, that's what you get.
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The Lord repaid right there, so I did fess up to him
and I'll say I did win in theend because he threw it out.
Oh wow, we were doing arenovation on the in-law suite
and he threw it out.
And I was like oh sweet oh see.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So that brings me to probably the last question I got
for you is, and I probablyshould ask this first how did
you come to meet Jesus man?
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
When did you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
come to know Jesus.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I grew up in a Christian family and we always
went to church and I went to areally strong youth group, kind
of like the one that you guysran.
It was called CAs ChristianAmbassadors and, yeah, Richie
and Peggy De La Cruz were theyouth group leaders at Freehold
First Assembly of God.
(12:00):
They're still involved in mylife.
And yeah, it was there, thatinfluence on my life.
That just it was.
And I love this couple becausethey're still going strong.
They're still just a stronginfluence on my life, just like
you're a strong influence.
Amen, amen On the lives of theyoung people that you guys were
(12:23):
leading.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's so important to let people know about the Lord
early and light.
I believe when kids are exposedto the truth of God's word
early on, even if they buck thetrend or walk away from that
truth, there's a betterprobability of them that those
seeds you know coming to fruitfruition.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It doesn't depart from them.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right.
It doesn't depart from them.
I believe that 100%, and Ithink it's easier to talk to a
younger person about the Lordthan a salty, seasoned older
person.
That is hardened in their heart.
It's so difficult and it'sunfortunate because there's so
many people like that that arenot going to spend eternity with
(13:06):
the Lord, in part because ofthe hardness of their heart.
Going to spend eternity withthe Lord in part because of the
hardness of their heart, youknow, so it's.
I'm always blessed to hearstories about people that, from
from their youth, have walkedwith the Lord and, you know,
known him.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I was just going to say that's in Proverbs right
Train a child in the way heshould go.
When he is old he will notdepart from it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And doesn't that give us a lot of encouragement when
our kids do walk away, like youknow, know, knowing that the
seeds were planted and theywalked away.
That's their choice, but it'sstill there and the holy
spirit's still with them.
And, um, yeah, it's.
It just gives so much hope andencouragement.
No, it's true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
well, I I want to say I do have one more follow-up
question first.
First, I want to say thank youso much again for being one of
our what we call playmakers.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, she's the OG, she's the original playmaker.
The original playmaker, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But I just want to know.
So what's next for Patterson'sWater and Plumbing?
What can we pray for?
What's happening?
Good question.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah.
So that's a good question.
I keep wondering myself what'snext.
I've got a great team that isrunning the business for me,
kind of I really they're makingdecisions.
I'm not bothered by things on adaily like, oh, what do I do?
How do I do this?
I've got my daughter-in-lawrunning the office and my
(14:30):
daughter operations and God hasjust blessed me tremendously and
I keep wondering what's next.
So I'm trying to work more onbuilding the business, looking
forward what is next?
How long do I want to do thisgig?
I also opened up a secondcomplementary business well
(14:51):
testing.
Like, yes, we do water testingwith the company, but in New
Jersey if you have a well andyou're selling or renting your
house, you have to get a statewell test.
It's a whole other animal.
So I can do that now.
So I'm spending more timefocusing on that.
And, yeah, what's next?
(15:11):
I guess the next generation.
I've always dabbled with theidea of having an employee owned
company.
I'm trying to work onsuccession planning and just
always have I guess a goodprayer is just always having the
right people on the right seaton the bus, and I've always
prayed for a hundred percentChristian company you know, so
(15:33):
we're influencing the people inour team that aren't believers,
and just having that boldnessall the time.
You know, this is how we operateand, like I said, it's not my
business.
I'm just the manager of God'sbusiness.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Amen, amen.
Well, if you come visit us, yougot to bring a couple water
testing kits.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I will.
I always have it with me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And some honey and some honey.
But you know, I want to saythat also too, this is in the
years that we've known you.
This is an answered prayer.
I remember when you were atthat point in your life in
business where you wanted to bewhere you are now, where you
wanted to be the think tank andhave the time to do that and
have a team that you could trustso you could do that, which is
(16:16):
what you should be doing as thebusiness owner.
So it's been a blessing toyou've been such a blessing to
others.
It's been a blessing to see yoube blessed and to see your
company and you grow to thepoint where you want it to be.
And again, because you knowyou're all, you're laying that
all at the, at the foot of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So and Catherine was also.
She was.
She's also been the posterperson for faithfulness, just
being faithful.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's helped us in our personal.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yes, it just, you know, even when things were were
difficult don't even need to gointo detail, just things were
difficult but, Catherine, shejust remained faithful to
support the ministry, what wewere doing, and went above and
beyond and just made it so thatwe were able to go forward and
(17:04):
bring the gospel of Christ andthe message of the word, bring
it, bring it to people that havenot actually haven't even heard
about Jesus, which is amazing,you would think.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, Isn't that amazing when you think about
that, like there's people outthere that don't even know who
Jesus is and it's just like noone has ever.
I always think about that, Likewhen you, when you meet some
random person and you wonder,you hear a little bit a snippet
about their life and you're likehuh, who's praying for this
person?
We all have people praying forus, we know that, but there's so
(17:40):
many people out there that havenobody praying for them.
Like that's heavy.
Who's praying for you know?
Joe Schmo around the corner,who's, you know, has a whole
family, who's not walking withthe Lord and I don't know.
It's a heavy responsibility, Ithink, when God brings people in
our lives.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You know it's interesting.
You say that I've found thatand the Lord's been working with
me on this that people thatannoy me or slightly aggravate
me, or people that just comeinto my mind out of nowhere, I'm
like, whoa, why am I thinkingabout that person Most of the
time, the Lord is counting on meto respond in prayer for them.
How that works, I don't know.
(18:20):
When we get to glory we'llunderstand and we're going to go
.
Oh wow, had I known, I wouldhave prayed more.
I do think that there are somany people that rub us the
wrong way and that aggravate us,and the Lord is actually
calling us to not complain aboutthem but to pray for their
salvation.
First and foremost, pray forthem to know him.
Hey, once you know the Lord, alot of problems start to get
(18:43):
solved.
Your main problem gets solved,but problems with other people
start to get solved.
So, yeah, who's praying forthat guy?
Who is praying for Joe Schmo?
Well, I think the Lord's askingyou to pray for that person and
you know, not you, catherine orKatie, but the person listening
right now.
You know the Lord's talking toyou right now, telling you yes,
(19:04):
that person I put on your heart,I want you to pray for them.
Oh, but Lord, I can't.
You know what they did.
He doesn't care what they did.
You shouldn't care what theydid.
He's asking you to pray forthem.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know what they say.
Your ministry is the toughestperson you deal with.
Think about that for a minute.
So I'm your ministry.
You did look at me a couple oftimes when you said people that
annoy you.
I'm like what are you lookingat me?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's going to be another episode of Plays on Word
.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wilberton, now Wilberton.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Not a hyphen or anything.
No slash, no hyphen, no.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
The next phase Catherine Wilberton.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We are, as you said.
We're going to put the linkdown the bottom, Definitely
encourage you guys to go on thewebsite and go under the About
Us and check out some of theother ministries that you guys
support.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We don't even have them all listed.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I keep meaning to do that, you know how technical
savvy I am.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Katie.
What's that?
You know how tech savvy I am.
Things on my website.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You's a barely turn my computer on number of them on
there now and it's just good tosee you know all the other good
that's that's being done outthere and the people that you
are supporting, so I know ifyou're supporting them.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They are legit right and if if you're in new jersey
monmouth ocean county area andyou're taking a shower without a
shower filter or a whole housefilter, you need to just email
or reach out to Catherine andget the lowdown on this.
Don't trust the guy at HomeDepot or Lowe's or the Ace
Hardware store.
You need to call Catherinebecause she's an expert on this.
She's been in it for a longtime and she will tell you about
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how messed up your water is.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Now see, now maybe you're going to sell in shower
filters.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, there you go, amen you want to pray us out of
here.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I'll pray you guys out.
Yep, heavenly Father, thank youso much for Katie and Teddy.
Thank you for what they'vepoured into my family's life
decades ago.
Thank you for what they'repouring into the lives of so
many other people people they'llnever know their name, they'll
never know who they are, butthey'll meet them in heaven and
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they're going to meet so manypeople in heaven, lord, that you
led to their plays andeventually led to yourself.
Lord, thank you so much.
I pray that you equip thisministry for what is next.
Equip them for what's rightaround the corner.
Support them, lord, bringdonors in that, give the support
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in prayer and monetary supportfor everything that this
ministry needs, lord, and I praythat doors swing wide open
everywhere they go, just foryour word, lord, to be known
amongst people who don't knowwho you are, who your son is,
and I pray this, lord, in Jesus'name.
Amen.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Amen, amen.
Okay, we love you, girl.
Yes, but all of you people outthere and this includes you too,
catherine, the Lord bless youand keep you.
The Lord make His face to shineupon you and be gracious to you
.
The Lord lift up Hiscountenance upon you and give
you peace.
Hallelujah, amen.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the best.
Yeah, isn't that amazing whenyou think about that?
Like there's people out therethat don't even know who Jesus
is and it's just like no one hasever.
I always think about that, likewhen you meet some random
person and you wonder, you heara little bit a snippet about
their life and you're like huh,who's praying for this person?
(00:25):
Like we all have people prayingfor us, we know that, but
there's so many people out therethat have nobody praying for
them.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You're the only name.
You're the only name.
You're the only name.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hello and welcome to Plays on Word Radio, where we
discuss, analyze, work and playon the Word of God.
Thank you for joining us onthis excursion.
Today let's join Pastor Teddy,also known as Fred David Kenny
Jr, the founder of Plays on WordTheater, as he does a deep dive
into the Word of God.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, so tell me about this bee thing, Because
the last time we were in Jackson, I remember you made a
statement that has just stuckwith me.
You're like I get stung all thetime and I'm not down with that
idea.
It doesn't hurt that bad, Imean it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You gave us some honey, it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But I tell you yeah, that local honey was.
There's something about that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, it was in fact I I didn't even have bad
allergies when that that year Iwas good to go.
So when I was a kid that thathouse on harmony road that's
where I grew up and my mom sentmy brothers and my dad and I
into the woods.
There were blueberries there.
It was in the morning, like asaturday morning, and we were
picking blueberries and puttingthem in little you know
(02:01):
tupperware things and I wasprobably I don know 20 feet from
them.
They were all together and oneof them stepped on a beehive or
something.
It wasn't honeybees, but Ididn't know that at the time.
I was probably like eight yearsold and they started like
running out of the woods, armsflaring all over the place, and
(02:22):
I didn't know what was going on.
So I ran after them and theygot hundreds of stings all over
them in their mouth, oh, and Ididn't get, and I didn't get one
.
So I thought I was special.
I thought I was like oh, thebees like me, they didn't sting
me, or the opposite, maybe they,yeah, and I didn't realize it
wasn't bees, it was probablywasps that were attacking them,
(02:45):
but I was always since a littlegirl I was fascinated with bees,
just because of that oneincident.
And then, you know, fast forward, I don't know, 15, 20 years
late, you know ago.
I'm at a customer's house inJackson and he's a beekeeper and
he brings me into his bee yardand opens up a hive.
(03:05):
We're not wearing any of thegarb.
He just says go.
I told him the story.
I always wanted to be abeekeeper.
He told me how easy it is.
He goes oh, here's somemagazines, you can order bees,
you can order your equipment.
He brought me there and openedup the hive.
The bees are flying all over.
It was just fascinating, thesmell of the hive and the bees
are flying all over really.
And I was just fascinating thesmell of the, of the wax and and
(03:28):
the honey and the pollen andthey're all over yeah and it
didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I didn't get stung once and I was like I could do
this so you're just scared.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No, I no, not at all, not at all.
Yeah and and yeah, I'vegottenung, but really they're
not attacking you there.
They're not going to stingeverything that they land on.
They're going to sting you ifyou're aggravating them.
So I just make sure, like myhair is tied up, I'm not wearing
jewelry, like I'm not wearinganything that they can get
caught in or under, and and yeah, I mean it just does it hurt,
(04:02):
yeah, but it's just like ithurts for a second and yeah.
I mean it just does it hurt.
Yeah, but it's just like ithurts for a second.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know it's not.
It's not terrible.
Yeah, I found that if you don'tappear to be a threat, a lot of
times they just leave you alone.
They go around you.
I wasn't a threat in the woods.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's why they left me alone, because I didn't have,
I wasn't panicking, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So I used to climb telephone poles back in the day
and I remember going up thistelephone pole and the wasps
would build their nest in thetelephone box up on the pole.
And I'm telling you I went upthis a bunch of times.
I would go up there and thewasp would actually come out of
the hive and sit there and lookat me.
And it wasp would actually comeout of the hive and sit there
and look at me and it wasunnerving.
(04:45):
So I had to slow down tocomplete slow motion just to let
him know I'm moving this way,I'm not a threat, I'm not a
threat and I'm sitting theretalking to this wasp.
But I would rather do that thanuse the spray that they gave me
that wipes them out, if I canat all avoid that.
So are there any benefits in inuh, in making your own honey,
(05:07):
besides the price?
Good grief, did you see theprice?
I looked at the jar the otherday.
It was like 12 bucks for like asmall jar yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I don't make the honey, they make it and I
steal it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So I'm just a honey thief.
That's the christian thingexactly no it's it, it's
wonderful.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So we have.
You know we use.
I don't use the pollen yet, butI use the beeswax and the
propolis I use so you can use alot of stuff from the hive and
it's honestly it's moreexpensive keeping bees than
buying honey.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know I think, oh my gosh, I could be buying
organic honey from down thestreet a lot cheaper than doing
all this.
But I love it, it's calming andit's a great hobby and I love
it.
And then once a year we have weharvest the honey and it's a
big.
You know, it's a big deal in myfamily.
All the kids come over.
We make a big deal out of it.
We have a meal together.
(06:01):
It's just, it's it's reallynice wait a second, so it's once
.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
a year is when you get the honey from it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, so I only do it .
When I lived on Harmony Road Ionly did it once a year, just
because you know, I never.
You know, the most hives I everhad was like six.
So I gather all the honey andthen it's a process because I
have this huge extractor.
It would be in my kitchen, it'sa messy ordeal I want it.
I want it done in a day.
I get it now.
(06:27):
Where I live, I have a barnwith a.
I call it my bee room.
There's like a little sectionof it all my bee stuff, so I'll
harvest throughout the seasonnow space?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
yeah, do you let them ?
Um, do you have like farmersthat want to rent them out from
you, like, can I get some bees?
Can I get your bees?
Can you help my corn crop?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's funny.
Larry thinks I should startthis whole side gig doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I've seen people do that.
I've seen people do it downhere.
I didn't know that was a thing,it's a thing, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's a thing.
Yeah, I'm not there yet.
I'm too busy.
I down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I saw people down here pull up like a flatbed and
they had the boxes, like you had.
You had the hives.
They placed them down right atthe edge of this field.
The farmers pay them.
The farmers pay them.
Yes, I'm like hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's win-win.
You get paid by the farmer andthen you can sell that honey.
You know like, we live inHamilton, which is the blueberry
capital of the world, so I cansay it's blueberry flavored
honey.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So it's neat.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
One day.
I'll not now too many movingparts in life right now.
So if someone from Plays Onwardradio audience wants to order
some honey from you, can theyjust email you directly and
what's the charge?
Yeah, so I don't even sell it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yet we always said oh , when we hit 100 pounds you
know harvesting 100 pounds ayear we'll sell it, and we have
surpassed that.
And we don't sell it yet.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It was fantastic.
It was so good that and wedon't sell it yet.
It was fantastic, it was sogood, it was way better than
like the golden, golden blossomstuff we we got now.
Katie does a dirty trick to mebecause I'm a snob when it comes
to honey.
I only like to enjoy honey thatis shipped, purchased in a
glass bottle glass, jar glassjar right exactly yeah and so
(08:30):
katie.
Uh, I don't think it's groundsfor divorce, but it's definitely
not not a good thing.
Yeah, she, she went to shopright or somewhere and got the
plastic bear honey in a in aplastic bottle and dumped it out
of that and put it in a glassjar dumped it out of that and
put it in a glass jar.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did you know the difference?
Did you know it?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Instinctively I knew deep down I said something ain't
right here, Because my palateis kind of refined.
First, of all.
I cannot believe that'sdeception.
The Lord is not happy with that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I cannot believe you put me out there like that.
Just call me Speedbump, that'smy new nickname.
I cannot believe you put me outthere.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I had to.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm still upset about this.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
This is how upset I am about this, Catherine.
That's how upset I am.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was Costco for the big bottle, because it was
about the budget.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I agree with Katie.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Budget comes first I'm still kind of traumatized
from that because I'm like Iknew something.
It's almost like taking ashower without a shower filter
on and thinking you have ashower filter.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm not even telling myself, because you didn't find
that out.
I told you I was doing that Iinstinctively knew something
wasn't right.
I just felt I had to come clean.
Yeah, I was so satisfied thatit had to happen for so many
years that I'd let you in on ityeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So to happen for so many years that I'd let you in
on it.
Yeah, yeah, so that's funny.
So you know what I did to myhusband when we moved?
He had this ugly, ugly, uglyIkea hat rack not the hat rack
that goes on the wall, but thestandup one.
He wears fedoras, so he hadthis and it was ugly, so he
wasn't here when.
when he wasn't here when, um, wemoved.
He travels a lot, so he wasn'there when we moved.
(10:11):
He travels a lot.
So when the movers and I cansay this on air because I
already fessed up to him.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But when?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
the movers came, they held this up and they said
where does this go?
And I said, hmm, does it haveto go anywhere?
So good, and for about fourmonths Larry's walking around.
Where is my hat?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
rack.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He's looking all over in the barn in the basement and
I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I don't know, maybe we left it on Harmony Road.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So, finally, it's around Christmas time and we're
shopping downtown in thisantique store and he asked them
for a hat rack, if they have acoat hanger or a hat rack, and
I'm thinking, oh, maybe they'llhave a nice wooden one and no
guess what.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
The same one.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They walk up to him with the same one, but in rat
ear like it's missing half thescrews and he paid double the
amount for it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm like oh my gosh, that's what you get.
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The Lord repaid right there, so I did fess up to him
and I'll say I did win in theend because he threw it out.
Oh wow, we were doing arenovation on the in-law suite
and he threw it out.
And I was like oh sweet oh see.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So that brings me to probably the last question I got
for you is, and I probablyshould ask this first how did
you come to meet Jesus man?
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
When did you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
come to know Jesus.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I grew up in a Christian family and we always
went to church and I went to areally strong youth group, kind
of like the one that you guysran.
It was called CAs ChristianAmbassadors and, yeah, Richie
and Peggy De La Cruz were theyouth group leaders at Freehold
First Assembly of God.
(12:00):
They're still involved in mylife.
And yeah, it was there, thatinfluence on my life.
That just it was.
And I love this couple becausethey're still going strong.
They're still just a stronginfluence on my life, just like
you're a strong influence.
Amen, amen On the lives of theyoung people that you guys were
(12:23):
leading.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's so important to let people know about the Lord
early and light.
I believe when kids are exposedto the truth of God's word
early on, even if they buck thetrend or walk away from that
truth, there's a betterprobability of them that those
seeds you know coming to fruitfruition.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It doesn't depart from them.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right.
It doesn't depart from them.
I believe that 100%, and Ithink it's easier to talk to a
younger person about the Lordthan a salty, seasoned older
person.
That is hardened in their heart.
It's so difficult and it'sunfortunate because there's so
many people like that that arenot going to spend eternity with
(13:06):
the Lord, in part because ofthe hardness of their heart.
Going to spend eternity withthe Lord in part because of the
hardness of their heart, youknow, so it's.
I'm always blessed to hearstories about people that, from
from their youth, have walkedwith the Lord and, you know,
known him.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I was just going to say that's in Proverbs right
Train a child in the way heshould go.
When he is old he will notdepart from it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And doesn't that give us a lot of encouragement when
our kids do walk away, like youknow, know, knowing that the
seeds were planted and theywalked away.
That's their choice, but it'sstill there and the holy
spirit's still with them.
And, um, yeah, it's.
It just gives so much hope andencouragement.
No, it's true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
well, I I want to say I do have one more follow-up
question first.
First, I want to say thank youso much again for being one of
our what we call playmakers.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, she's the OG, she's the original playmaker.
The original playmaker, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But I just want to know.
So what's next for Patterson'sWater and Plumbing?
What can we pray for?
What's happening?
Good question.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah.
So that's a good question.
I keep wondering myself what'snext.
I've got a great team that isrunning the business for me,
kind of I really they're makingdecisions.
I'm not bothered by things on adaily like, oh, what do I do?
How do I do this?
I've got my daughter-in-lawrunning the office and my
(14:30):
daughter operations and God hasjust blessed me tremendously and
I keep wondering what's next.
So I'm trying to work more onbuilding the business, looking
forward what is next?
How long do I want to do thisgig?
I also opened up a secondcomplementary business well
(14:51):
testing.
Like, yes, we do water testingwith the company, but in New
Jersey if you have a well andyou're selling or renting your
house, you have to get a statewell test.
It's a whole other animal.
So I can do that now.
So I'm spending more timefocusing on that.
And, yeah, what's next?
(15:11):
I guess the next generation.
I've always dabbled with theidea of having an employee owned
company.
I'm trying to work onsuccession planning and just
always have I guess a goodprayer is just always having the
right people on the right seaton the bus, and I've always
prayed for a hundred percentChristian company you know, so
(15:33):
we're influencing the people inour team that aren't believers,
and just having that boldnessall the time.
You know, this is how we operateand, like I said, it's not my
business.
I'm just the manager of God'sbusiness.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Amen, amen.
Well, if you come visit us, yougot to bring a couple water
testing kits.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I will.
I always have it with me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And some honey and some honey.
But you know, I want to saythat also too, this is in the
years that we've known you.
This is an answered prayer.
I remember when you were atthat point in your life in
business where you wanted to bewhere you are now, where you
wanted to be the think tank andhave the time to do that and
have a team that you could trustso you could do that, which is
(16:16):
what you should be doing as thebusiness owner.
So it's been a blessing toyou've been such a blessing to
others.
It's been a blessing to see yoube blessed and to see your
company and you grow to thepoint where you want it to be.
And again, because you knowyou're all, you're laying that
all at the, at the foot of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So and Catherine was also.
She was.
She's also been the posterperson for faithfulness, just
being faithful.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's helped us in our personal.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yes, it just, you know, even when things were were
difficult don't even need to gointo detail, just things were
difficult but, Catherine, shejust remained faithful to
support the ministry, what wewere doing, and went above and
beyond and just made it so thatwe were able to go forward and
(17:04):
bring the gospel of Christ andthe message of the word, bring
it, bring it to people that havenot actually haven't even heard
about Jesus, which is amazing,you would think.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, Isn't that amazing when you think about
that, like there's people outthere that don't even know who
Jesus is and it's just like noone has ever.
I always think about that, Likewhen you, when you meet some
random person and you wonder,you hear a little bit a snippet
about their life and you're likehuh, who's praying for this
person?
We all have people praying forus, we know that, but there's so
(17:40):
many people out there that havenobody praying for them.
Like that's heavy.
Who's praying for you know?
Joe Schmo around the corner,who's, you know, has a whole
family, who's not walking withthe Lord and I don't know.
It's a heavy responsibility, Ithink, when God brings people in
our lives.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You know it's interesting.
You say that I've found thatand the Lord's been working with
me on this that people thatannoy me or slightly aggravate
me, or people that just comeinto my mind out of nowhere, I'm
like, whoa, why am I thinkingabout that person Most of the
time, the Lord is counting on meto respond in prayer for them.
How that works, I don't know.
(18:20):
When we get to glory we'llunderstand and we're going to go
.
Oh wow, had I known, I wouldhave prayed more.
I do think that there are somany people that rub us the
wrong way and that aggravate us,and the Lord is actually
calling us to not complain aboutthem but to pray for their
salvation.
First and foremost, pray forthem to know him.
Hey, once you know the Lord, alot of problems start to get
(18:43):
solved.
Your main problem gets solved,but problems with other people
start to get solved.
So, yeah, who's praying forthat guy?
Who is praying for Joe Schmo?
Well, I think the Lord's askingyou to pray for that person and
you know, not you, catherine orKatie, but the person listening
right now.
You know the Lord's talking toyou right now, telling you yes,
(19:04):
that person I put on your heart,I want you to pray for them.
Oh, but Lord, I can't.
You know what they did.
He doesn't care what they did.
You shouldn't care what theydid.
He's asking you to pray forthem.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know what they say.
Your ministry is the toughestperson you deal with.
Think about that for a minute.
So I'm your ministry.
You did look at me a couple oftimes when you said people that
annoy you.
I'm like what are you lookingat me?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's going to be another episode of Plays on Word
.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wilberton, now Wilberton.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Not a hyphen or anything.
No slash, no hyphen, no.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
The next phase Catherine Wilberton.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We are, as you said.
We're going to put the linkdown the bottom, Definitely
encourage you guys to go on thewebsite and go under the About
Us and check out some of theother ministries that you guys
support.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We don't even have them all listed.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I keep meaning to do that, you know how technical
savvy I am.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Katie.
What's that?
You know how tech savvy I am.
Things on my website.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You's a barely turn my computer on number of them on
there now and it's just good tosee you know all the other good
that's that's being done outthere and the people that you
are supporting, so I know ifyou're supporting them.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
They are legit right and if if you're in new jersey
monmouth ocean county area andyou're taking a shower without a
shower filter or a whole housefilter, you need to just email
or reach out to Catherine andget the lowdown on this.
Don't trust the guy at HomeDepot or Lowe's or the Ace
Hardware store.
You need to call Catherinebecause she's an expert on this.
She's been in it for a longtime and she will tell you about
(20:46):
how messed up your water is.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Now see, now maybe you're going to sell in shower
filters.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, there you go, amen you want to pray us out of
here.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I'll pray you guys out.
Yep, heavenly Father, thank youso much for Katie and Teddy.
Thank you for what they'vepoured into my family's life
decades ago.
Thank you for what they'repouring into the lives of so
many other people people they'llnever know their name, they'll
never know who they are, butthey'll meet them in heaven and
(21:17):
they're going to meet so manypeople in heaven, lord, that you
led to their plays andeventually led to yourself.
Lord, thank you so much.
I pray that you equip thisministry for what is next.
Equip them for what's rightaround the corner.
Support them, lord, bringdonors in that, give the support
(21:41):
in prayer and monetary supportfor everything that this
ministry needs, lord, and I praythat doors swing wide open
everywhere they go, just foryour word, lord, to be known
amongst people who don't knowwho you are, who your son is,
and I pray this, lord, in Jesus'name.
Amen.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Amen, amen.
Okay, we love you, girl.
Yes, but all of you people outthere and this includes you too,
catherine, the Lord bless youand keep you.
The Lord make His face to shineupon you and be gracious to you
.
The Lord lift up Hiscountenance upon you and give
you peace.
Hallelujah, amen.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
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