October 3, 2025 • 29 mins
"Whether you’re a grandparent, a parent still learning to speak your heart, or a mentor to kids who see you as family, this conversation gives you tools to capture meaning in ink and pass it forward with grace."
We share how simple “love letters” can carry faith, values and identity across generations, and why churches can turn this practice into a culture of healing communication. Pastor Mike Morgan, of Shiloh Baptist Church, and Louise Cole, of Family Legacy Connect, show practical ways to write, store and share letters that become mirrors and anchors for family.
• love letters as a tangible family legacy
• grandparents, parents and mentors as mirrors of identity
• communication as healing, forgiveness and relief
• stories as carriers of values and faith
• church vision to “empower family” quarterly
• practical rhythms for writing, saving and gifting letters
• integrating Scripture and testimony without performance
• honoring ancestors and documenting prayer-filled history
To find out how to bring "Love Letters" to your church/ community or learn how to future-proof your legacy, please contact Louise Cole:
• https://www.familylegacyconnect.com/contact or
• Louise@familylegacyconnect.com
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SPEAKER_04 (00:00):
Lord, you know.
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You're now listening to play oneis the best.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
It's absolutely brilliant.
She gets a card and writes it,ships it off to her kids, but
keeps a copy for herself, putsit in a file with the child's
name.
What is that gonna do?
Really nothing until she's gone.
And then the kids get to gothrough all her stuff.
And in that, you see a card withmom's handwriting of when I was
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20, when I was 21, 22, 23.
That's gonna be amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
Thank you for joining us on this excursion
today.
Let's join Pastor Teddy, alsoknown as Fred David Kenny Jr.,
the founder of Plays on WordTheater, as he does a deep dive
into the Word of God.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
Amen, amen, amen, amen.
Welcome to all of you to Playson Word Radio.
My name is Fred David Kenny Jr.
Thank you very much for checkingus out.
Thank you, Katie Kenney and JoshTaylor, for the introduction.
Hey, today we are having aconversation with the Reverend
Mike Morgan of Shiloh BaptistChurch and our dear sister
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Louise Cole.
And we're just having a uhconversation about a ministry
that the Lord has put onLouise's heart.
unknown (01:51):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (01:52):
About family legacy, um love letters.
And it's a cool conversation.
Check it out.
Reverend Mike, how are you, man?
SPEAKER_05 (02:02):
Brother, listen, when you have Jesus, uh there's
always a green light, my man.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
Amen.
Amen.
Amen to that.
SPEAKER_05 (02:10):
And if there's if there's a red light, you trust
it.
Just just stay put.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
Okay.
All right.
Well, uh, we are here with thegood Reverend Mike Morgan from
Shiloh Baptist Church,Matasquad, New Jersey.
And we are also joined with uhoh, Katie Kenny's joining us.
Look at this.
Katie Kenny.
Katie Kenny is joining us.
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Oh let me, yeah, right?
Let me tell me something.
SPEAKER_05 (02:41):
I would I would have dressed differently, man, if I'd
have known that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
And uh we're we're also here with um Louise Cole.
Interestingly enough, both ofyou guys are plays-on-word uh
supporters from way back, longtime plays-on-word supporters.
And I just wanted to there wasan event at Shiloh Baptist that
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I talked about on the podcastrecently.
It was an event where Louisewent out to Shiloh and basically
presented some informationbefore we talk to you, Louise,
about getting into thenitty-gritty of of what what you
were speaking about.
Reverend Mike, what do you haveany thoughts on what was
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presented from from yourperspective?
SPEAKER_05 (03:38):
You know, I think of Proverbs 29 when he, you know,
without vision, you know, thepeople perish.
And uh the first time I sat downwith Louise and she was
discussing her ministry, um, Imentioned uh a young girl, a
young mother in our church andher predicament.
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And uh Louise's response waslike, whoa, like, okay, God's
doing something there with her,and this needs to be extended.
You know what I mean?
So the the reaction from thepeople, it was just vision, it
was something different, itwasn't repetitious, it wasn't
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the same oh, it was somethingthat opened our eyes to a new
way of communicating with familythat brings relief, healing.
Um, everybody, we left it with adifferent perspective.
To be honest with you, we'regonna now have a quarterly uh
serve uh Saturday time offellowship.
(04:40):
We're calling it empoweringfamily.
And uh we're gonna continue thisfamily legacy.
We're just gonna add one word toit, the word communication.
Um, you know, because you know,I uh what I took from it for me
was, you know, I never reallygot to extend to my dad my my
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appreciation for him and what hemeant to me.
You know what I mean?
And um it's just it's aboutleaving a legacy, but it's also
about, you know, umcommunicating.
And um that would have meant alot to him.
So, you know, uh I planned to goto his grave site, Father's Day,
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and I'm gonna put together aletter.
This was also uh Louise's idea.
But it's just it was just justit just generated a whole new uh
way of thinking about family andwhat we're doing to contribute
to the family.
Um it was just a blessing.
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Amen.
You know, that's one thing Iappreciate, Aid, about you is
that for some reason you're ableto see vision better than most
pastors I know.
You're able to identify visionbecause you know, as a pastor,
you get you get a milliondifferent people coming up to
you saying, Oh, here's a greatidea for you to run with, and
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here's a good time, though.
Uh uh, God gave me a greatministry for you to do.
Um but what I what I like when Iwhen I stepped to you about
plays on word, before we had thename plays on word, you were the
first guy.
But next to Katie, you were thefirst person.
I said, I gotta talk to Mikeabout this.
Man, I don't even know what thisis.
(06:23):
And the first thing you said,you said, brother, sounds like
vision.
Yes, Lord.
Oh man, but uh, so that I reallyappreciate, man.
I have I uh you know, becausethe the kingdom of God, man, and
the body of Christ, how muchvision has been stifled?
SPEAKER_05 (06:44):
Come on, sir.
SPEAKER_03 (06:46):
Yes, you know, the Lord deposit is deposits a
vision for something withsomeone, they go to the pastor
and get smacked down becauseit's not XYZ run of the mill.
SPEAKER_05 (06:57):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (06:59):
You know, and and and and as you know, if if that
was the case, a lot of ministryprobably would not have to.
You go back the last 2,000years.
I mean, I'm sure Timothy wentwent up to Paul and was like,
Paul, you know, uh, I have anidea for some things going on at
Ephesus, you know, and I don'tthink I don't think Paul smacked
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him down.
SPEAKER_05 (07:20):
That's right, brother.
SPEAKER_03 (07:21):
He was like, Well, if it's of God, yes, you know,
then it's gonna roll.
Let it roll.
SPEAKER_05 (07:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:27):
So, yeah, I just wanted to, I wanted to
personally thank you for thatbecause you know, we are we are
living now in part because ofyour giving uh a vision a
chance.
You know, be it just being opento open to well, maybe this is
of God.
If it's not of God, thenwhatever, man.
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But but you know, if it is ofGod, hey, I can I can get down
with that.
So, you know, and uh I'm I'mblessed, you know.
I that's one of the reasons whyI I told Louise, I said, you
know, you you should reach outto Brother Mike, you know, and
share with him the idea.
So hello to you, Louise Cole.
I didn't even get a chance to,we didn't get a chance to hear
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your voice.
SPEAKER_01 (08:10):
Fine with me.
SPEAKER_03 (08:11):
Okay.
Yeah.
Um can you give us a uh a basicidea of uh what you presented to
Mike and then what you presentedto the fellowship over there at
Shiloh?
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
Well, the the conversation with Mike was just
what he said.
We were having breakfast, thefour of us, um, Joanne and and
Bill and Mike and I, and hetalked about this woman, and I
just said, here's what I would Iwould do for her.
You know, I would write a lettertelling my daughter exactly what
I wanted to say.
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You know, um, I would do it inthe forward.
You know, if she were going on afirst date, what would I tell
her if I wasn't there?
What would I want her to know?
And that's what I would write sothat she knows it.
But the the most important thingis I would be the mirror for
her.
The mirror.
Here's who you are, here's how Isee you.
This is the most important thingabout you.
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And don't listen to your peersor anyone else that tells you
because that's a squigglymirror.
That's not a real mirror.
This is the real mirror.
Mirror that you look into in thebathroom.
This is who you are, this is howI see you.
You're smart, you're loving,you've uh communication, you
have a great sense of humor.
This is who you are.
(09:26):
Okay, you're a writer, you're ayou're a whatever I see in you
when I see you.
Because many times we go throughlife and we have no idea who we
are.
So we believe our peers, we'retoo fat, we're not pretty, we're
this, we're that, and that's notwho we really are.
So grandparents need to step upinto that role and say, this is
who you are, this is how I seeyou, and this is the value of
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who you are.
SPEAKER_02 (09:52):
No, I just was wondering.
So, how does the program workaround that concept?
SPEAKER_05 (09:57):
From the time that we sat down and had breakfast
together, the Holy Spirit hasbeen kind of evolving this
thing.
He's been kind of shaping itfrom where from the beginning
process, you know.
And so what I took from, andagain, Louise has to pray about
this, but there was so much thatI took from uh Saturday that I
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think we're gonna structure asit relates to family legacy
because I was telling Louise youhad not only grandparents, but
you had parents, and you hadchildren.
You had parents who areparenting, but whose parents are
still alive.
And I just the the the word, soI felt like within her workshop,
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there could be three categoriesto address all three uh phases
uh because um there's just alack of communication.
I mean, just in even having mychildren, I used to look forward
to my son's father's day cardbecause I know he would
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literally go through a I don'tknow how many cards to find the
exact words that he wanted tosay, but it was the only moment
I had where I could hear andfeel my son.
Because as parents, you don'tget any accolades.
Nobody's telling you, hey, youdid a great job today, man.
I saw you work all day, comehome and cook food, and you
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don't get any of that.
So when you get any type ofapplause from your children, you
know, and I just I saw thatthere's there's not enough uh
communication, man.
I needed to get that, but it'sokay.
Uh-huh.
That's the town calling me aboutthat.
But anyhow, um, I just feel likethere's not enough communication
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where there could be morehealing.
And I I felt like going forward,obviously Louise has to pray
about that, but if she's goingto do more speaking engagements,
I think there's there's enoughfor every phase to be blessed to
enhance the communication level.
SPEAKER_01 (12:05):
The ones I talked about before um when I was
there, and and basically it waslove letters to my grandkids.
You know, as grandparents, wehave so much to teach our
grandkids.
There's so many values that wehave that they don't, that they
have not, their parents work sohard to do everything.
And and in the 80s and early90s, everyone bought into the
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new bigger, better, more.
And there's only 24 hours in aday, and you didn't still need
to sleep, and you still need towork 40, 50 hours a week, and
there wasn't much time for kids.
So values sadly got shifted tothe side.
So most of the kids don't havethose values, but grandparents
do.
And and grandchildren love tohear the stories.
SPEAKER_04 (12:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:51):
You know, given in a positive life, they love to hear
the stories about you know usgrowing up, and because I'm a
grandparent now, of me growingup, and the Bill tells the
stories of of how he lived onthe Jersey Shore and all the
things that he did.
Um, so and within that, there'svalues, and we need to share
that with our grandkids.
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And and they do want to hear.
And I was just telling a coupleof stories.
I know um one of my friends,what she does is, and I thought
it was it was absolutelybrilliant.
She gets a card and writes init, ships it off to her kids,
but keeps a copy for herself.
Okay, puts it in a file with thechild's name.
(13:34):
Now, what is that gonna do?
Really nothing until she's gone.
And then the kids get to gothrough all her stuff.
And in that, see a card withmom's handwriting of when I was
20, when I was 21, 22, 23, everysingle year.
That's gonna be amazing to them.
The tears that are gonna bethere, the impact is amazing.
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And and this is something thatwe could actually do because the
we want that impact to be there.
I know I was in a store not toolong ago at Walmart, and this
woman brought out this tatteredsheet of paper.
And like I'm looking at it, andit was a shopping list: bread,
eggs, milk.
She said, This is all I have ofmy mother.
This is all I have left.
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Do you know how much that meantto?
I mean, what do you say afterthat?
You know how much that meant toher?
That is a love letter.
It doesn't have to be long orbig, it just has to be something
that has meaning, and that's thelegacy that we're giving.
SPEAKER_02 (14:31):
You know what I what I love about this is, and I've
I've thought about this a lotrecently.
My dad's been gone for quite along time, and I miss him, I
miss the stories he used totell.
And what I love about this isthat it's documented somewhere
so you can go back and read it.
Even just a little thing, and Iget it about the cards because
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I've kept all the cards.
And recently I looked at some ofthose, and it it meant so much
to me that not only did my momum sign a birthday card, but it
my dad signed it too in hishandwriting.
And something so small like thatmeans the world to me.
That if I had, you know, someletters or so, my my mom is is
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more into that.
She's has written some thingsthat I I I have been able to
hold on to, but I wish I hadthat from my dad.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
It really you you don't realize the values that
are in there.
And I and I know that you guysdon't have kids, but you've got
nieces and you've got friendswho have kids who love to hear
the stories because you're likegrandparents to them.
And they love to hear thestories, and that will bring
values.
And at some point in time,something you say is going to
connect with them, and thatvalue is going to stick with
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them forever.
Okay.
But this was really done bydivine inspiration.
I really, you know, I wasn'tsure if this was just me or was
this God.
And the conclusion I came to wasthis program, the love letters,
is from God.
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
You know, to circle back to what um how we kind of
opened with uh talking to toMinister Mike about um, you
know, the the fellowship and theand the the um development of
ideas that we're given.
This is really why the body ofChrist works together so well.
Absolutely.
Because you are coming, I Ialmost feel, folks, that you're
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listening to the furtherdevelopment of this whole
program and how not only can itbe um brought to churches, but
how churches can take that andcontinue it with what Mike wants
to do with his church.
What I also love about this toois you mentioned um uh Louise
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that the fact that we don't havekids, there is another element
to this, you know, not just thethe grandparents and the
parents, but the close friends.
There are people, we've had thisconversation, there are people
in my life that are not bloodrelatives, but they are we are
sisters in Christ, and we areliterally aunts and uncles to
their children, you know, and sothere's an element sometimes
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when I miss that, but thathaving that, God has brought
these people into our lives.
So these this is another aspect,another, if you would say,
audience that you can speak tothat that maybe don't have
children of their own, but havethe opportunity to influence in
Christ.
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
And I really believe that who you're being when
you're with those kids, that'swhy they love you.
They they see who you are, andsome of them are gonna attach
that value, whether it'spatience or just your your love
of the that child, or maybe justplaying a game with them, just
being with them.
They're gonna attach that valuebecause who you are has meaning
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to them.
SPEAKER_03 (17:53):
Hey Mike, uh as far as um the seat that you're in,
you get you have an opportunityto see a great deal of
brokenness in families.
Like I mean, going backgenerations, you know, and uh
you think something like thiscould potentially help heal some
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of the I mean, because I'mthinking of just some of the
folks we know, we grew up with,you know what I mean?
Like, wow.
SPEAKER_05 (18:23):
Yeah, this this is why um I was sharing, and I I
think if you when you listen toLouise, her passion and the
foundation of the vision is forgrandparents, and I think she's
gonna do a lot of isolated workwith that, but I found that even
afterwards, when people werecoming up to her, there were
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multiple situations like you andKatie.
It's different than the actualgrandparent predicament.
And Louise had somethingimmediately, she had a response
for every question, everyconcern.
So I just feel like as she movesforward to tailor it uh on
multiple platforms, you knowwhat I mean?
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Um, it's gonna be real helpful.
But for me, I see this as a realbenefit.
Um, and again, I I like thatword commute communication
because that is gonna be a partof that legacy.
Um, you know, again, mepersonally thanking my mother.
My mother saved my life to justprocess, okay, how awesome would
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that have been just to sit downwith her and say, Mom, or write
her a letter.
You know, because again, I wastelling Louise what I'm getting
out of it is the then and thenow.
Okay, the the now is the legacy,but the then is the needed
communication for now, forhealing.
And I think there's a whole lotthat the Holy Spirit can use in
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the then as well.
And again, it was just soawesome.
I mean, my man, man, I just tookoff listening to her and just
processing this.
I think it can be a tremendousblessing.
And it can be a tool also withwhen we talk about reaching the
heart of Christ.
What is that?
When we have to forgive, we haveto humble ourselves.
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You know, it's it's weakness tothe flesh, but it's empowerment
to the spirit.
Right.
And I do I think this is anothertool that can be used to enhance
forgiveness, you know.
Um, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
So you can say you forgave that person, but did you
really?
You know, it's because it's anactive, I actively do it.
And and so the love letterallows you to do that, to get it
all out there, and then say,okay, I forgive you.
And now let me tell you thepositive things you've put in my
life to make me who I am now.
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I wouldn't have been who I was Iam now if it weren't for you.
If it weren't for the thingsthat you did to make me who I am
today, I am great today becauseof you.
You take that negative and youmake it a positive because
that's who you are.
And and it works, it's all God.
SPEAKER_05 (21:07):
Ted and Katie, you can relate to people when they
come to you and they'reoverwhelmed.
And the first thing I do is Isay, okay, we got a big fire,
but if you take one log out ofthat fire at a time, it's not
that bad.
You're you're just staring atall the logs at one time, you
know.
And to me, this family legacy,this communication, this
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expression, uh, the expressionof feelings.
And man, I'm telling you, it'ssupernatural, it's going to pull
logs out of the fire.
You know, I just see relief, Isee healing, I see so much in
it.
SPEAKER_01 (21:42):
And then the family can come together as a family
moving forward because you cansay, okay, my daughter, my son,
my grandchildren, this is who weare as a family.
SPEAKER_05 (21:53):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (21:53):
This is who we are as a family moving forward.
These are the values that all ofus decided that this is who we
are.
We're loving, we're kind, we'regenerous.
This is who we are as a familymoving forward.
How do we create that legacymoving forward for our
grandkids' kids?
How do we do that?
How do we stay together?
And you're right, it's all aboutthat communication.
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How do we communicate with eachother?
When you're mad at me, I wantyou to tell me you're mad at me.
And I want to communicate withyou.
I want, I want that lovingrelationship.
And this is how we're gonna doit.
SPEAKER_03 (22:26):
You know, the enemy has been very successful in
attacking the family.
SPEAKER_05 (22:31):
Yes, he has.
SPEAKER_03 (22:32):
Uh, he's been assaulting the family, and this
this sounds uh very intriguingand interesting.
I'm just trying to imagine if Iif I got a letter from my
grandpop who I met when I wastwo months old, three months.
I think he passed when I wasthree months old, something like
that.
But if I got like a letter fromI that would be, you know, I've
only known stories from myuncles about him.
SPEAKER_05 (22:55):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_03 (22:56):
You know, my on my dad's side.
I I knew my mom's uh pop, but Ididn't know Freddie Fred's pop,
my dad's pop.
Uh I didn't get to know him.
I met him, but I never reallygot a chance to know him.
That would that I'm just tryingto process that.
Like if I got a letter, youknow, just sharing different
things.
That would be that would bewild.
SPEAKER_01 (23:15):
Just yeah, just sharing life, just sharing
about, you know, what's goingon.
You can see the values withinthe letter.
SPEAKER_03 (23:22):
I think also uh, you know, for somebody who maybe is
not walking with the Lord butwas raised in a believing
family, to get a letter from alike if I got a letter from my
grandpa that talked about hiswalk with Christ and the word of
God in his life and stuff likethat, I would just be I'd be
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blown away.
And so it how mu how importantis is faith as far as in the in
this letter type thing you wouldwrite, how important is faith in
your communication to yourfamily members?
Would you mention faith?
SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
It would be I I would I would a hundred percent.
My faith is extremely importantto me.
I mean, without without myfaith, I have nothing.
I couldn't do anything withoutfaith.
My faith in Christ iseverything.
I mean, I remember wasn't when Iwasn't walking with the Lord,
how empty my life was.
You know, I didn't have thatguidance.
I didn't have you know mybrothers and sisters in Christ
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to to help guide me when I gooff the rail sometimes.
Um it's it's extremelyimportant.
SPEAKER_02 (24:26):
I think how this all is incorporated in Christ too is
you know, um in uh secondCorinthians, where are we?
Second Corinthians uh chapterone, verse three.
I just praise be to the God andFather of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of compassion and theGod of all comfort, who comforts
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us in all our troubles, that wecan conform so that we can
comfort those in any troublewith the comfort we ourselves
receive from God.
And I always say that that ourhearts are for someone else's
healing.
SPEAKER_05 (25:02):
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (25:03):
And if we through through something like this, the
love letters, if we can teachthe next generation that same
thing, that will continue tosnowball in Christ.
And that's that's what happens,like all these stories, and and
especially in today's culture,when they keep leaving out the
God factor, then thesegenerations that are growing up
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don't know the true facts, andthat's why I see this as such a
benefit, but constantlyreferring back and pointing to
Christ because this is what thisgeneration needs.
SPEAKER_05 (25:45):
Yes, my great-grandfather back in 1909
started a prayer group, and youknow, uh they he believed God,
he had seen God uh help hisfather build a church.
Um, the actual uh the uh slavemaster was a Christian man and
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and took the African Americans,you know, African Americans
couldn't go to church unless theslave master took them.
So after the masturbationprocess, uh this white slave
master helped them build theirfirst church.
SPEAKER_03 (26:24):
Wow.
SPEAKER_05 (26:25):
Became the deacon in their church.
SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
Come on.
SPEAKER_05 (26:28):
So he saw that miracle.
So when he came up to Jersey atthe worst of time, they started
praying because they had alreadywitnessed the move of God.
So that that that empowered himto trust God through the process
of you know uh establishingShiloh Baptist Church, which I
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talk about all the time.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, but it was mygrandfather on my mother's side
who really was my spiritualinspiration.
And actually, we just buried mycousin Kelsey, and the Holy
Spirit led me to talk about thefaith of my grand, our
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grandfather Junior Morton.
So the eulogy was all surroundedby my grandfather junior morton.
So I got it on both ends, theMortons and the Morgans, with
here with Shiloh Baptist Church.
SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
You basically have love letters in a sense from the
stories and their lives, thelegacy of their lives.
And you're uh you're you'reministering in the church.
Uh that's kind of like a a brickand mortar uh legacy letter from
uh great-grandpops.
SPEAKER_05 (27:43):
Amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
How cool is it to know that great-grandpops had
prayed over yes, not just theproperty, but the family and you
know it's documented.
SPEAKER_02 (27:53):
It's actually documented.
SPEAKER_03 (27:55):
And so that's kind of in a in a very strange way.
That's that's kind of what'sLouise is talking about here to
a certain extent, like some kindof legacy where you can you can
continue ministering.
SPEAKER_02 (28:07):
Tangible.
SPEAKER_03 (28:08):
Tangible when you're when you're gone.
I I really like the idea.
I would love to write my uh myniece something.
SPEAKER_01 (28:14):
You know what, Pastor Mike, what values do you
think you got from yourgrandfather?
SPEAKER_05 (28:23):
Well, I I think the key is that God opened my eyes
to be able to see it.
You know what I mean?
Um, and I think a lot of us areblocked, you know, we have we're
we're we're we're connected todifferent bondages that prevent
us from seeing.
And uh for me to, you know, at20 years old to be able to walk
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through these doors, because itwas all I knew growing up, a
lost 20-year-old.
And that's when the appreciationfor my great-grandfather really
kicked in.
You know what I mean?
Because had he not had thevision and the and the and the
drive to accomplish what God didthrough him, you know, who knows
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where my life had gone.
SPEAKER_03 (29:10):
Amen.
Amen.
Well, thank you very much,Louise Cole and Reverend Mike
Morgan from Shiloh Baptist.
And Louise Coles from CalvarySouthport in North Carolina.
And so we're gonna meet againnext week.
God will continue on ourNortheast tour.
So the Lord bless you and keepyou, the Lord make his face to
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shine upon you and be graciousto you, the Lord lift up his
countenance upon you and giveyou peace.
SPEAKER_00 (29:49):
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You're now listening to play oneis the best.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
It's absolutely brilliant.
She gets a card and writes it,ships it off to her kids, but
keeps a copy for herself, putsit in a file with the child's
name.
What is that gonna do?
Really nothing until she's gone.
And then the kids get to gothrough all her stuff.
And in that, you see a card withmom's handwriting of when I was
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20, when I was 21, 22, 23.
That's gonna be amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
Thank you for joining us on this excursion
today.
Let's join Pastor Teddy, alsoknown as Fred David Kenny Jr.,
the founder of Plays on WordTheater, as he does a deep dive
into the Word of God.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
Amen, amen, amen, amen.
Welcome to all of you to Playson Word Radio.
My name is Fred David Kenny Jr.
Thank you very much for checkingus out.
Thank you, Katie Kenney and JoshTaylor, for the introduction.
Hey, today we are having aconversation with the Reverend
Mike Morgan of Shiloh BaptistChurch and our dear sister
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Louise Cole.
And we're just having a uhconversation about a ministry
that the Lord has put onLouise's heart.
unknown (01:51):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (01:52):
About family legacy, um love letters.
And it's a cool conversation.
Check it out.
Reverend Mike, how are you, man?
SPEAKER_05 (02:02):
Brother, listen, when you have Jesus, uh there's
always a green light, my man.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
Amen.
Amen.
Amen to that.
SPEAKER_05 (02:10):
And if there's if there's a red light, you trust
it.
Just just stay put.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
Okay.
All right.
Well, uh, we are here with thegood Reverend Mike Morgan from
Shiloh Baptist Church,Matasquad, New Jersey.
And we are also joined with uhoh, Katie Kenny's joining us.
Look at this.
Katie Kenny.
Katie Kenny is joining us.
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Oh let me, yeah, right?
Let me tell me something.
SPEAKER_05 (02:41):
I would I would have dressed differently, man, if I'd
have known that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
And uh we're we're also here with um Louise Cole.
Interestingly enough, both ofyou guys are plays-on-word uh
supporters from way back, longtime plays-on-word supporters.
And I just wanted to there wasan event at Shiloh Baptist that
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I talked about on the podcastrecently.
It was an event where Louisewent out to Shiloh and basically
presented some informationbefore we talk to you, Louise,
about getting into thenitty-gritty of of what what you
were speaking about.
Reverend Mike, what do you haveany thoughts on what was
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presented from from yourperspective?
SPEAKER_05 (03:38):
You know, I think of Proverbs 29 when he, you know,
without vision, you know, thepeople perish.
And uh the first time I sat downwith Louise and she was
discussing her ministry, um, Imentioned uh a young girl, a
young mother in our church andher predicament.
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And uh Louise's response waslike, whoa, like, okay, God's
doing something there with her,and this needs to be extended.
You know what I mean?
So the the reaction from thepeople, it was just vision, it
was something different, itwasn't repetitious, it wasn't
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the same oh, it was somethingthat opened our eyes to a new
way of communicating with familythat brings relief, healing.
Um, everybody, we left it with adifferent perspective.
To be honest with you, we'regonna now have a quarterly uh
serve uh Saturday time offellowship.
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We're calling it empoweringfamily.
And uh we're gonna continue thisfamily legacy.
We're just gonna add one word toit, the word communication.
Um, you know, because you know,I uh what I took from it for me
was, you know, I never reallygot to extend to my dad my my
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appreciation for him and what hemeant to me.
You know what I mean?
And um it's just it's aboutleaving a legacy, but it's also
about, you know, umcommunicating.
And um that would have meant alot to him.
So, you know, uh I planned to goto his grave site, Father's Day,
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and I'm gonna put together aletter.
This was also uh Louise's idea.
But it's just it was just justit just generated a whole new uh
way of thinking about family andwhat we're doing to contribute
to the family.
Um it was just a blessing.
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Amen.
You know, that's one thing Iappreciate, Aid, about you is
that for some reason you're ableto see vision better than most
pastors I know.
You're able to identify visionbecause you know, as a pastor,
you get you get a milliondifferent people coming up to
you saying, Oh, here's a greatidea for you to run with, and
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here's a good time, though.
Uh uh, God gave me a greatministry for you to do.
Um but what I what I like when Iwhen I stepped to you about
plays on word, before we had thename plays on word, you were the
first guy.
But next to Katie, you were thefirst person.
I said, I gotta talk to Mikeabout this.
Man, I don't even know what thisis.
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And the first thing you said,you said, brother, sounds like
vision.
Yes, Lord.
Oh man, but uh, so that I reallyappreciate, man.
I have I uh you know, becausethe the kingdom of God, man, and
the body of Christ, how muchvision has been stifled?
SPEAKER_05 (06:44):
Come on, sir.
SPEAKER_03 (06:46):
Yes, you know, the Lord deposit is deposits a
vision for something withsomeone, they go to the pastor
and get smacked down becauseit's not XYZ run of the mill.
SPEAKER_05 (06:57):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (06:59):
You know, and and and and as you know, if if that
was the case, a lot of ministryprobably would not have to.
You go back the last 2,000years.
I mean, I'm sure Timothy wentwent up to Paul and was like,
Paul, you know, uh, I have anidea for some things going on at
Ephesus, you know, and I don'tthink I don't think Paul smacked
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him down.
SPEAKER_05 (07:20):
That's right, brother.
SPEAKER_03 (07:21):
He was like, Well, if it's of God, yes, you know,
then it's gonna roll.
Let it roll.
SPEAKER_05 (07:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:27):
So, yeah, I just wanted to, I wanted to
personally thank you for thatbecause you know, we are we are
living now in part because ofyour giving uh a vision a
chance.
You know, be it just being opento open to well, maybe this is
of God.
If it's not of God, thenwhatever, man.
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But but you know, if it is ofGod, hey, I can I can get down
with that.
So, you know, and uh I'm I'mblessed, you know.
I that's one of the reasons whyI I told Louise, I said, you
know, you you should reach outto Brother Mike, you know, and
share with him the idea.
So hello to you, Louise Cole.
I didn't even get a chance to,we didn't get a chance to hear
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your voice.
SPEAKER_01 (08:10):
Fine with me.
SPEAKER_03 (08:11):
Okay.
Yeah.
Um can you give us a uh a basicidea of uh what you presented to
Mike and then what you presentedto the fellowship over there at
Shiloh?
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
Well, the the conversation with Mike was just
what he said.
We were having breakfast, thefour of us, um, Joanne and and
Bill and Mike and I, and hetalked about this woman, and I
just said, here's what I would Iwould do for her.
You know, I would write a lettertelling my daughter exactly what
I wanted to say.
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You know, um, I would do it inthe forward.
You know, if she were going on afirst date, what would I tell
her if I wasn't there?
What would I want her to know?
And that's what I would write sothat she knows it.
But the the most important thingis I would be the mirror for
her.
The mirror.
Here's who you are, here's how Isee you.
This is the most important thingabout you.
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And don't listen to your peersor anyone else that tells you
because that's a squigglymirror.
That's not a real mirror.
This is the real mirror.
Mirror that you look into in thebathroom.
This is who you are, this is howI see you.
You're smart, you're loving,you've uh communication, you
have a great sense of humor.
This is who you are.
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Okay, you're a writer, you're ayou're a whatever I see in you
when I see you.
Because many times we go throughlife and we have no idea who we
are.
So we believe our peers, we'retoo fat, we're not pretty, we're
this, we're that, and that's notwho we really are.
So grandparents need to step upinto that role and say, this is
who you are, this is how I seeyou, and this is the value of
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who you are.
SPEAKER_02 (09:52):
No, I just was wondering.
So, how does the program workaround that concept?
SPEAKER_05 (09:57):
From the time that we sat down and had breakfast
together, the Holy Spirit hasbeen kind of evolving this
thing.
He's been kind of shaping itfrom where from the beginning
process, you know.
And so what I took from, andagain, Louise has to pray about
this, but there was so much thatI took from uh Saturday that I
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think we're gonna structure asit relates to family legacy
because I was telling Louise youhad not only grandparents, but
you had parents, and you hadchildren.
You had parents who areparenting, but whose parents are
still alive.
And I just the the the word, soI felt like within her workshop,
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there could be three categoriesto address all three uh phases
uh because um there's just alack of communication.
I mean, just in even having mychildren, I used to look forward
to my son's father's day cardbecause I know he would
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literally go through a I don'tknow how many cards to find the
exact words that he wanted tosay, but it was the only moment
I had where I could hear andfeel my son.
Because as parents, you don'tget any accolades.
Nobody's telling you, hey, youdid a great job today, man.
I saw you work all day, comehome and cook food, and you
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don't get any of that.
So when you get any type ofapplause from your children, you
know, and I just I saw thatthere's there's not enough uh
communication, man.
I needed to get that, but it'sokay.
Uh-huh.
That's the town calling me aboutthat.
But anyhow, um, I just feel likethere's not enough communication
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where there could be morehealing.
And I I felt like going forward,obviously Louise has to pray
about that, but if she's goingto do more speaking engagements,
I think there's there's enoughfor every phase to be blessed to
enhance the communication level.
SPEAKER_01 (12:05):
The ones I talked about before um when I was
there, and and basically it waslove letters to my grandkids.
You know, as grandparents, wehave so much to teach our
grandkids.
There's so many values that wehave that they don't, that they
have not, their parents work sohard to do everything.
And and in the 80s and early90s, everyone bought into the
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new bigger, better, more.
And there's only 24 hours in aday, and you didn't still need
to sleep, and you still need towork 40, 50 hours a week, and
there wasn't much time for kids.
So values sadly got shifted tothe side.
So most of the kids don't havethose values, but grandparents
do.
And and grandchildren love tohear the stories.
SPEAKER_04 (12:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:51):
You know, given in a positive life, they love to hear
the stories about you know usgrowing up, and because I'm a
grandparent now, of me growingup, and the Bill tells the
stories of of how he lived onthe Jersey Shore and all the
things that he did.
Um, so and within that, there'svalues, and we need to share
that with our grandkids.
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And and they do want to hear.
And I was just telling a coupleof stories.
I know um one of my friends,what she does is, and I thought
it was it was absolutelybrilliant.
She gets a card and writes init, ships it off to her kids,
but keeps a copy for herself.
Okay, puts it in a file with thechild's name.
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Now, what is that gonna do?
Really nothing until she's gone.
And then the kids get to gothrough all her stuff.
And in that, see a card withmom's handwriting of when I was
20, when I was 21, 22, 23, everysingle year.
That's gonna be amazing to them.
The tears that are gonna bethere, the impact is amazing.
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And and this is something thatwe could actually do because the
we want that impact to be there.
I know I was in a store not toolong ago at Walmart, and this
woman brought out this tatteredsheet of paper.
And like I'm looking at it, andit was a shopping list: bread,
eggs, milk.
She said, This is all I have ofmy mother.
This is all I have left.
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Do you know how much that meantto?
I mean, what do you say afterthat?
You know how much that meant toher?
That is a love letter.
It doesn't have to be long orbig, it just has to be something
that has meaning, and that's thelegacy that we're giving.
SPEAKER_02 (14:31):
You know what I what I love about this is, and I've
I've thought about this a lotrecently.
My dad's been gone for quite along time, and I miss him, I
miss the stories he used totell.
And what I love about this isthat it's documented somewhere
so you can go back and read it.
Even just a little thing, and Iget it about the cards because
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I've kept all the cards.
And recently I looked at some ofthose, and it it meant so much
to me that not only did my momum sign a birthday card, but it
my dad signed it too in hishandwriting.
And something so small like thatmeans the world to me.
That if I had, you know, someletters or so, my my mom is is
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more into that.
She's has written some thingsthat I I I have been able to
hold on to, but I wish I hadthat from my dad.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
It really you you don't realize the values that
are in there.
And I and I know that you guysdon't have kids, but you've got
nieces and you've got friendswho have kids who love to hear
the stories because you're likegrandparents to them.
And they love to hear thestories, and that will bring
values.
And at some point in time,something you say is going to
connect with them, and thatvalue is going to stick with
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them forever.
Okay.
But this was really done bydivine inspiration.
I really, you know, I wasn'tsure if this was just me or was
this God.
And the conclusion I came to wasthis program, the love letters,
is from God.
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
You know, to circle back to what um how we kind of
opened with uh talking to toMinister Mike about um, you
know, the the fellowship and theand the the um development of
ideas that we're given.
This is really why the body ofChrist works together so well.
Absolutely.
Because you are coming, I Ialmost feel, folks, that you're
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listening to the furtherdevelopment of this whole
program and how not only can itbe um brought to churches, but
how churches can take that andcontinue it with what Mike wants
to do with his church.
What I also love about this toois you mentioned um uh Louise
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that the fact that we don't havekids, there is another element
to this, you know, not just thethe grandparents and the
parents, but the close friends.
There are people, we've had thisconversation, there are people
in my life that are not bloodrelatives, but they are we are
sisters in Christ, and we areliterally aunts and uncles to
their children, you know, and sothere's an element sometimes
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when I miss that, but thathaving that, God has brought
these people into our lives.
So these this is another aspect,another, if you would say,
audience that you can speak tothat that maybe don't have
children of their own, but havethe opportunity to influence in
Christ.
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
And I really believe that who you're being when
you're with those kids, that'swhy they love you.
They they see who you are, andsome of them are gonna attach
that value, whether it'spatience or just your your love
of the that child, or maybe justplaying a game with them, just
being with them.
They're gonna attach that valuebecause who you are has meaning
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to them.
SPEAKER_03 (17:53):
Hey Mike, uh as far as um the seat that you're in,
you get you have an opportunityto see a great deal of
brokenness in families.
Like I mean, going backgenerations, you know, and uh
you think something like thiscould potentially help heal some
(18:17):
of the I mean, because I'mthinking of just some of the
folks we know, we grew up with,you know what I mean?
Like, wow.
SPEAKER_05 (18:23):
Yeah, this this is why um I was sharing, and I I
think if you when you listen toLouise, her passion and the
foundation of the vision is forgrandparents, and I think she's
gonna do a lot of isolated workwith that, but I found that even
afterwards, when people werecoming up to her, there were
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multiple situations like you andKatie.
It's different than the actualgrandparent predicament.
And Louise had somethingimmediately, she had a response
for every question, everyconcern.
So I just feel like as she movesforward to tailor it uh on
multiple platforms, you knowwhat I mean?
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Um, it's gonna be real helpful.
But for me, I see this as a realbenefit.
Um, and again, I I like thatword commute communication
because that is gonna be a partof that legacy.
Um, you know, again, mepersonally thanking my mother.
My mother saved my life to justprocess, okay, how awesome would
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that have been just to sit downwith her and say, Mom, or write
her a letter.
You know, because again, I wastelling Louise what I'm getting
out of it is the then and thenow.
Okay, the the now is the legacy,but the then is the needed
communication for now, forhealing.
And I think there's a whole lotthat the Holy Spirit can use in
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the then as well.
And again, it was just soawesome.
I mean, my man, man, I just tookoff listening to her and just
processing this.
I think it can be a tremendousblessing.
And it can be a tool also withwhen we talk about reaching the
heart of Christ.
What is that?
When we have to forgive, we haveto humble ourselves.
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You know, it's it's weakness tothe flesh, but it's empowerment
to the spirit.
Right.
And I do I think this is anothertool that can be used to enhance
forgiveness, you know.
Um, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
So you can say you forgave that person, but did you
really?
You know, it's because it's anactive, I actively do it.
And and so the love letterallows you to do that, to get it
all out there, and then say,okay, I forgive you.
And now let me tell you thepositive things you've put in my
life to make me who I am now.
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I wouldn't have been who I was Iam now if it weren't for you.
If it weren't for the thingsthat you did to make me who I am
today, I am great today becauseof you.
You take that negative and youmake it a positive because
that's who you are.
And and it works, it's all God.
SPEAKER_05 (21:07):
Ted and Katie, you can relate to people when they
come to you and they'reoverwhelmed.
And the first thing I do is Isay, okay, we got a big fire,
but if you take one log out ofthat fire at a time, it's not
that bad.
You're you're just staring atall the logs at one time, you
know.
And to me, this family legacy,this communication, this
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expression, uh, the expressionof feelings.
And man, I'm telling you, it'ssupernatural, it's going to pull
logs out of the fire.
You know, I just see relief, Isee healing, I see so much in
it.
SPEAKER_01 (21:42):
And then the family can come together as a family
moving forward because you cansay, okay, my daughter, my son,
my grandchildren, this is who weare as a family.
SPEAKER_05 (21:53):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (21:53):
This is who we are as a family moving forward.
These are the values that all ofus decided that this is who we
are.
We're loving, we're kind, we'regenerous.
This is who we are as a familymoving forward.
How do we create that legacymoving forward for our
grandkids' kids?
How do we do that?
How do we stay together?
And you're right, it's all aboutthat communication.
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How do we communicate with eachother?
When you're mad at me, I wantyou to tell me you're mad at me.
And I want to communicate withyou.
I want, I want that lovingrelationship.
And this is how we're gonna doit.
SPEAKER_03 (22:26):
You know, the enemy has been very successful in
attacking the family.
SPEAKER_05 (22:31):
Yes, he has.
SPEAKER_03 (22:32):
Uh, he's been assaulting the family, and this
this sounds uh very intriguingand interesting.
I'm just trying to imagine if Iif I got a letter from my
grandpop who I met when I wastwo months old, three months.
I think he passed when I wasthree months old, something like
that.
But if I got like a letter fromI that would be, you know, I've
only known stories from myuncles about him.
SPEAKER_05 (22:55):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_03 (22:56):
You know, my on my dad's side.
I I knew my mom's uh pop, but Ididn't know Freddie Fred's pop,
my dad's pop.
Uh I didn't get to know him.
I met him, but I never reallygot a chance to know him.
That would that I'm just tryingto process that.
Like if I got a letter, youknow, just sharing different
things.
That would be that would bewild.
SPEAKER_01 (23:15):
Just yeah, just sharing life, just sharing
about, you know, what's goingon.
You can see the values withinthe letter.
SPEAKER_03 (23:22):
I think also uh, you know, for somebody who maybe is
not walking with the Lord butwas raised in a believing
family, to get a letter from alike if I got a letter from my
grandpa that talked about hiswalk with Christ and the word of
God in his life and stuff likethat, I would just be I'd be
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blown away.
And so it how mu how importantis is faith as far as in the in
this letter type thing you wouldwrite, how important is faith in
your communication to yourfamily members?
Would you mention faith?
SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
It would be I I would I would a hundred percent.
My faith is extremely importantto me.
I mean, without without myfaith, I have nothing.
I couldn't do anything withoutfaith.
My faith in Christ iseverything.
I mean, I remember wasn't when Iwasn't walking with the Lord,
how empty my life was.
You know, I didn't have thatguidance.
I didn't have you know mybrothers and sisters in Christ
(24:19):
to to help guide me when I gooff the rail sometimes.
Um it's it's extremelyimportant.
SPEAKER_02 (24:26):
I think how this all is incorporated in Christ too is
you know, um in uh secondCorinthians, where are we?
Second Corinthians uh chapterone, verse three.
I just praise be to the God andFather of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of compassion and theGod of all comfort, who comforts
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us in all our troubles, that wecan conform so that we can
comfort those in any troublewith the comfort we ourselves
receive from God.
And I always say that that ourhearts are for someone else's
healing.
SPEAKER_05 (25:02):
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (25:03):
And if we through through something like this, the
love letters, if we can teachthe next generation that same
thing, that will continue tosnowball in Christ.
And that's that's what happens,like all these stories, and and
especially in today's culture,when they keep leaving out the
God factor, then thesegenerations that are growing up
(25:27):
don't know the true facts, andthat's why I see this as such a
benefit, but constantlyreferring back and pointing to
Christ because this is what thisgeneration needs.
SPEAKER_05 (25:45):
Yes, my great-grandfather back in 1909
started a prayer group, and youknow, uh they he believed God,
he had seen God uh help hisfather build a church.
Um, the actual uh the uh slavemaster was a Christian man and
(26:10):
and took the African Americans,you know, African Americans
couldn't go to church unless theslave master took them.
So after the masturbationprocess, uh this white slave
master helped them build theirfirst church.
SPEAKER_03 (26:24):
Wow.
SPEAKER_05 (26:25):
Became the deacon in their church.
SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
Come on.
SPEAKER_05 (26:28):
So he saw that miracle.
So when he came up to Jersey atthe worst of time, they started
praying because they had alreadywitnessed the move of God.
So that that that empowered himto trust God through the process
of you know uh establishingShiloh Baptist Church, which I
(26:50):
talk about all the time.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, but it was mygrandfather on my mother's side
who really was my spiritualinspiration.
And actually, we just buried mycousin Kelsey, and the Holy
Spirit led me to talk about thefaith of my grand, our
(27:10):
grandfather Junior Morton.
So the eulogy was all surroundedby my grandfather junior morton.
So I got it on both ends, theMortons and the Morgans, with
here with Shiloh Baptist Church.
SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
You basically have love letters in a sense from the
stories and their lives, thelegacy of their lives.
And you're uh you're you'reministering in the church.
Uh that's kind of like a a brickand mortar uh legacy letter from
uh great-grandpops.
SPEAKER_05 (27:43):
Amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
How cool is it to know that great-grandpops had
prayed over yes, not just theproperty, but the family and you
know it's documented.
SPEAKER_02 (27:53):
It's actually documented.
SPEAKER_03 (27:55):
And so that's kind of in a in a very strange way.
That's that's kind of what'sLouise is talking about here to
a certain extent, like some kindof legacy where you can you can
continue ministering.
SPEAKER_02 (28:07):
Tangible.
SPEAKER_03 (28:08):
Tangible when you're when you're gone.
I I really like the idea.
I would love to write my uh myniece something.
SPEAKER_01 (28:14):
You know what, Pastor Mike, what values do you
think you got from yourgrandfather?
SPEAKER_05 (28:23):
Well, I I think the key is that God opened my eyes
to be able to see it.
You know what I mean?
Um, and I think a lot of us areblocked, you know, we have we're
we're we're we're connected todifferent bondages that prevent
us from seeing.
And uh for me to, you know, at20 years old to be able to walk
(28:46):
through these doors, because itwas all I knew growing up, a
lost 20-year-old.
And that's when the appreciationfor my great-grandfather really
kicked in.
You know what I mean?
Because had he not had thevision and the and the and the
drive to accomplish what God didthrough him, you know, who knows
(29:07):
where my life had gone.
SPEAKER_03 (29:10):
Amen.
Amen.
Well, thank you very much,Louise Cole and Reverend Mike
Morgan from Shiloh Baptist.
And Louise Coles from CalvarySouthport in North Carolina.
And so we're gonna meet againnext week.
God will continue on ourNortheast tour.
So the Lord bless you and keepyou, the Lord make his face to
(29:31):
shine upon you and be graciousto you, the Lord lift up his
countenance upon you and giveyou peace.
SPEAKER_00 (29:49):
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