November 3, 2023 • 53 mins
Ever hear about a podcast episode filled with laughs, faith, and a bit of good-natured betrayal? Well, no more suspense! We had a ball recording this episode, reflecting on our journey and celebrating the fantastic response to our YouTube stream of the podcast. But, as they say, every rose has its thorns, we experienced a tiny prick when Matt betrayed us for another podcast - all in good fun, of course!
We took on the impressive AI-powered language model, Chat GPT. The aim? For Chat GPT to guess our thoughts with yes or no answers! You'll never believe the result.
But it's not all play, we delve into serious matters too. In anticipation of Junior Soldier Sunday, we discuss the importance of investing in kids from an early age, and how this nurtures a solid foundation of faith. We get personal too, talking about our names as identity markers. We wrapped up reminiscing on nostalgic band pieces and worship songs from the 90s. Remember those? The power of music to stir emotions and memories is truly amazing. And hey, holidays are around the corner! So buckle up for an unforgettable ride of fun, faith, and nostalgia!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi everyone, welcome back to the Plugged In podcast.
Hello, good to be back.
It's always good to be back.
This is episode number 12.
12.
Oh yeah, episode number 12 intotal for season number 2, this
is episode 3.
This is also 3 episodes in arow that we have recorded in the
same location.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
This is record.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is new record here.
That's an all time record.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I would say it's nice .
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, you can't tell on the YouTube stream.
We are really, really squeezedin here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We are as cased into this little location, I think,
as we can be.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But it's starting to feel like home.
It's nice.
You guys got any open thoughts,or should I just roll right
away?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh, I would just like to say go jets.
Oh, sorry, boys, sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So it will be funny when this airs like 2 weeks from
now, and it will have lost 2weeks in a row.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I'm saying whenever this airs it's not
really I mean.
So the jets won yesterday,which in reality was October
29th.
I guess this is airing thisFriday we're behind schedule.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Rush, we had a little bump in the schedule.
Oh right, you cancelled on us.
You had a sick child.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The day was crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So we did?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
we had to bump out of recording.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So we're a little behind schedule.
We are recording today isactually Monday, october 30th.
This episode is coming out.
You guys will.
It's going to drop on Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Friday is November.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Third Third.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Maybe In my experience with these things
long pauses of silence are notgreat.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
November 3rd, starting off strong.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
All right, well, I just have an opening thought.
A couple of weeks ago, orweekends ago, we had the kickoff
to youth arts ministry.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It felt like a good day.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was really a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We had some changes with our schedule.
The older kids got to pick twomajors instead of one and it
just seemed like it gave them alittle bit more energy, more
focus, more fun kind of allaround.
And I will say, one of theheroes of the day, captain Nate
Heinzman, no way Hero.
Kept, kept, kept, kept, keptkept.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Wow, just blew out the microphone.
Did not know what to do withthat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Captain Nate was the replacement for my replacement
and really stepped in at thelast hour.
Really the evening before I wasliterally sitting on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So I was your last choice In the hallway.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You weren't my first choice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, Nate, you're always my first choice Caught up
from the practice squad.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The band love no, he stepped right in and took over
the game time for the nine totwelve year olds and, literally
on like an eight hours of notice, he was able to play some
awesome games with the kids and,captain, I think I feel like
you were born for that kind ofstuff.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That was so weird, you calling him Captain.
Captain, that was so weird.
Well, we saw how desperate youknow of a situation it was when
you were just camped out on theground.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I was just like sitting on the floor in the
hallway at the HQ.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Guys, what do I do?
Walking past Hands?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Tissue box Just crying yeah, it was, I was okay
let's revise that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was not crying, there was no tissues, I was
trying to figure out what to do,but no, nate stepped in and it
was awesome.
On top of that, it wasinteresting.
There's a lot of officers andhelpers at YAM on Saturdays and
they do a fantastic job.
One thing every time we recordan episode, I kind of like say
to you guys, like you knowwhat's our listenership like,
(03:40):
what's our listenership like man, I cannot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It is Monday, I don't know, and again no coffee Word.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No, I just like with every episode I'm just like you
know, should we keep going?
Like you know who's listeningand stuff like that, and we have
stats and everything.
But it was very unique onSaturday at YAM.
It was just like unprompted,without asking people.
I think the YouTube podcastthis season is a big hit.
Yeah, because a lot of peopleare tuning in.
They'd rather watch the videosthan just listen on Spotify or
(04:10):
Apple, whatever it is.
But just a couple of people hadsome really nice things to say
and it's always encouraging.
I think it helps us keep going.
Yeah, and yeah, it's fun for usto do, but it's even more fun
when people say they areactually listening.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I know I'm like wow, other people find us funny too.
It's like it's encouragementthere.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
On Friday night at a Friday night fellowship, which
was a great time.
Captain Jeff Brunel and LilyBrunel both commented on the
limitations or Taylor Swiftsegment.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Got some Swifties out there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So yeah, that was a hit.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
When I listened back to that and I had to listen, so
when I edit these episodes Ihave to listen to each segment
like quite a few times and I wasjust like man.
This is so embarrassing BecauseI did roll the tape back.
Nate got every single one right.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Did you cheat when I was putting that together?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I was rolling around like 35%, like it was real bad.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, at some point you were answering so quick.
I'm like do you know, or isthis just like a guess?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No, the Lord revealed it to me.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Oh my gosh, so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, that's it for my opening thoughts.
You guys have anything I feellike?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh, I already said mine, so I'm good.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, you said you had a bone to pick with me.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh, I do.
I felt slighted and cheated tohear that our very own Matthew
Lund sat behind a differentmicrophone and gave his thoughts
to a different podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think, this is where the camera cuts away from
Matt.
The one Matt.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Matt was very, he was very upfront about it and he
texted us and said hey guys.
I really just want to let youknow Yep, you know it wasn't.
We weren't blindsided by it,and our response was Matt, you
are the Taylor Swift in thissituation.
They need you to up theirratings.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
To be fair, I that was not my response.
You were like Matt, it's fine,you can do it, and I was like no
, I don't think this is a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's a really good impression of Nate.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Can you do that again ?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Matt, it's fine.
No, okay, so all right.
I did go on another podcastthis week.
I was at a territorialheadquarters for a conference of
the music directors all weeklong and on Wednesday, after the
New York staff band Rousals,they do a weekly podcast called
Talk of Ages, and you can't be.
(06:28):
It can't be too much of a boneto pick.
Your father was on the podcast,like last week.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, but my father's on a host of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, that is true, thank you.
I'm going to ask you guys, andI said so is this cheating or
are we good?
So, yes, I was on the podcast,it was fun, but you'll be happy
to know that, even though theydid not ask me, I slipped in a
plug for the plugged in podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I was going to ask.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think they were all kind of annoyed actually.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, they were just like whoa.
There it is Like so no, it'sinteresting, there's a great
outside of this podcast.
So if you want to talk of, agesis the name of the podcast and
it is rooted in humor.
I mean if you want to likelaugh to till you're crying.
Mark Baker and Matt Hudson twoof the funniest human beings
that I've ever For sure, forsure.
(07:17):
It's almost like when you're inthe room, you feel like you're
competing, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You just can't.
Oh my gosh, I'd be like sittingin a seat of anxiousness like
trying to come up with the nextfunny story because we just
couldn't yeah they're next leveland it's great, so it was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The other podcast that comes to mind in this part
and these parts the Wild.
West, in these parts.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
In these parts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, have you ever listened to?
Drew Forster has a podcastcalled the Creator Podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, have you listened to that?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, so he's several seasons into that now, but his
podcast is really interviewbased and really takes deep
dives on people who are thecreative type.
So we're both of you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You were on that right and you were on that name
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So he's had far, far, far more interesting people
than me and he's done a reallygood job with that.
So if you're interested ineither of those podcasts in
addition to this one that's,talk of Ages is a New York staff
band podcast and it is forbanders.
I mean it's like this composer,that piece, like it's, you know
.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's what I have to like, like pass forward through
a little bit to get to thefunny stuff.
The funny stuff, Because I'mlike I don't even know what
they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I feel like I would need to do my research
beforehand so that I could havesomething of substance to offer
to the conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, so that's Talk of Ages and Drew Forster does
the creator podcast.
Both of them are qualityproducts.
Yeah for sure.
So yeah, all right, lorena, yougot something for us.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I have a game, and Matt has no idea what it is, so
this is even better.
Okay, so we're going to play agame of heads up, and before we
do anything, I need us to pick acategory pop culture icons,
maybe Matthew Newton icons,legends and stars is there?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
is there like a gardening slash, lawn care
category, because he might getthat one?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
no, there's no, let's just do icons, legends and
stars.
So how?
What happens?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I don't want to do this so embarrassing all the
time, okay okay, it's not likejust relax, take a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Okay, there, it is great job.
So you're gonna hold, we'regonna okay, I'm not doing a
great job at explaining.
We're gonna pass my phonearound.
Okay, everyone gets one turnand you hold the phone, like
this, above your head yep, andthere's gonna be something
displayed, and then the othertwo.
So if it was me holding it, youtoo have to explain what's on
my head, okay, okay, and so theperson holding it is trying to
(09:32):
guess yeah, and then I think youtip it up yeah, when it's
correct okay we're gonna passyou just tip it down.
Okay, let's do.
Let's do.
Icons, legends and stars.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know how I like to pass like a hundred times.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't know pop culture, I don't know famous
people want to do animals gonewild.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know, it's just an option or blockbuster
movies.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I don't care, just give me a blackbuster movies.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's gonna be easier.
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm gonna do icons, cuz I don't.
I tried doing the superstarsone.
Like to test this out.
It was really difficult okay oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A little noise on for a get ready okay two okay, here
we go oh, thank you 80s, 80ssinger Whitney.
Houston, no guy carelesswhisper oh, oh Michaels, george
Michaels yeah, good job.
Oh, I have no idea how to I'mnot gonna win African-American
(10:33):
woman pass.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That might be totally wrong yeah, I'm already on the
countdown all right, yeah, 80sagain, I think.
So I don't even know what tosay all right, let's just okay,
this is a trial round, okay wow,I don't know the person next.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh, I don't know this is the worst of all time okay
this is like my fair lady,classic actress.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Audrey Hepburn different name, different first
name other other Hepburn.
Jim wow we just tore that upguys okay, let's try it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let's try it.
May you try a differentcategory?
That was terrible.
Wait, not now it'll show whatwas that category?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
icons icons.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So oh, billie Holiday .
Michelle Pfeiffer yeah, 80s.
Simmons, lisa, no, catherineHepburn okay, wow man all right
that was an all-timer that waslike super bad.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That was terrible okay okay, not, not because of
you.
Okay, so this pop culture actedout is pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think it acted out well, it's just like it's easier
things to describe, or who'snext?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I guess I'll go, nate will go and we'll close it out
can I?
Can I do animals gone wild,because I'm intrigued?
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm curious and scared, yeah, okay please put
your arm around the microphone.
Get ready three push down so upis oh okay, elephant Dumbo yeah
, down a plague of these littlelocusts yes, oh, it's hearing
Speaker 2 (12:23):
my voice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh, scarlett Johansson is black widow yeah
wow this is good.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Category a being us we are human, yes a spider with
web.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not a mom, but a dad yeah spider and has really
father, no tarantula, no thinkof a spider.
Daddy, daddy, long leg.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, you can't say the word oh, pack a drug, a drug
animal, a drug pack mule, no,yes you got it yeah oh not an
alligator, but a crocodile yesoh, stop moving it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Black black duck yes it's doing it on its own.
Oh, these things are savagesand they like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They're long and green and this oh praying mantis
, yeah little tiny guy ant yesall right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I guess, animals gone wild is.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That is.
That's our back, and we set itup for Matt, oh my goodness, we
have that back.
These animals are savagesblowing out our microphones yeah
, I saw.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sorry, I saw a video of a oh, they do like eat the
yeah, like a massive spider it'sthe head off the mail or
something.
I don't know.
All right, here's, here's theoptions, and you just click it
and put it on your head okay,animals go wild.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Icons, legend stars, pop culture superstars super
stars was really difficult.
I acted out blockbuster movies.
Every one of these is gonna bejust embarrassing how about?
There's a kind of called justkidding.
Yeah, alright, just kid.
Is it like comedians, we don'tknow.
Also just like a picture ofkids, okay okay, get ready.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
On my forehead so it sounds like it's hearing us.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So you don't need to move it ready oh videos social
media platform a tiktok yes, yesokay, got it right we're
wearing right now headphones.
Yes, oh, this is a kind of formof movement with dance,
(14:27):
rhythmic, rhythmic, yes but whatthings on on your, on your
shoes that make a clacking?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
noise?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
oh, tap, tap yes wow, my brain stop oh this is a Wii
game and you hold the Wii remoteand bowling the song, that
tennis the song dadadadoo do wetennis, we bowling, we golf but
you use it and you follow themovements on the screen of the
people and you, alright, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Wow, all right, if surprise, yeah, yeah, exactly
exactly, oh, oh.
Dan is a yo play is a?
What brand of cereal?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I didn't hear the first one.
We're just gonna go play nopeyogurt.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Wow, it's over, it's good.
Wow the first one.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm really, really that's over.
I'm sweating wait.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
The first one was the amazing world of gumball what
is?
I don't even know what that isyogurt.
Yogurt was the last one well,well done everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Don't falsely build me up.
That was awful.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I mean, you got more than I got.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But I had a really hard topic category I did yikes.
Alright, nate, you're gonnamove us into yeah the junior
soldier ministry tip of themonth is brought to you by
captain Nathan Yolhain's man,yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh, did you want to provide some context?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
well, just so, the ministry tip for this month and
the whole kind of thread ortheme of this episode ties along
with junior soldier Sunday,which is this upcoming Sunday,
yep, november 4th, 5th, the 3rd,4th 5th November 5th it's
Monday day is it November 5th?
Oh, it's Nate's favorite dayever, daylight savings time and
(16:14):
not gonna lie, he thought thatdaylight savings was last Sunday
.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was getting ready, I was tailgating and everything
he said his like real, likeclock back he was so ready.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So November 5th, junior soldier Sunday, and so
our devotional kind of revolvearound the theme that the
territory has rolled out forthat, and then Nate has just a
ministry tip about juniorsoldiers.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, just wanted to just help provide some
resourcing and some clarity asto what junior soldiers is all
about, what the aim of it is.
And so junior soldiers is a isa discipleship program designed
for children in your core, ages7 to 13, and really any child
who's been attending your corefor a month can participate.
(16:57):
They just want a ten consistentattendance of about a month and
then you can jump in, and thewhole purpose of junior soldiers
is to help develop spiritualawareness, to increase Bible
knowledge, to guide our youngpeople in appropriate lifestyle
to to the faith, and also tojust provide some clarity as to
what we believe in the SalvationArmy, what our practices and
(17:18):
principles and practices andprinciples are, and also to
provide opportunities forleadership and participation in
different aspects of leadershipthere's a lot of peas in that.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I know a lot of peas.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So if you are wondering about junior soldiers,
where, where do I get aresource material?
Where do I find everything fromprincipal, principal, take-home
lessons, take away packages?
Salvation army youth org isyour hub.
You can go to salvation armyyouth org and from there there
is an entire section devoted tojunior soldiers.
(17:50):
If you look through the packetsthat are listed there, the PDFs
each lesson you'll see is iscompiled in such a way that's
very easy.
It'll list a high-energyicebreaker game, a Bible lesson,
a video component that goeswith each lesson and then some
fun printable worksheets thatyou can take away.
And so I looked at thedashboard just today and they
(18:12):
have lessons all the way throughspring 2027 available there for
for print and for review.
For those individuals who aren'tyet old enough to participate
in junior soldiers or beenrolled as a junior soldier,
they can take the totally hisprep course, which is six
lessons focusing on beingtotally focused, totally
(18:33):
forgiven, totally obedient,totally devoted, totally clean
and totally committed to God.
And so we recognize thatdiscipleship is a lifelong
process and we want to invest inour young people early, because
statistics will show that if wecan introduce our children to
Christ at an early age, theroots that are formed in those
formative years are going togrow and they're going to
(18:55):
produce seeds and they're gonnahelp keep them rooted and
anchored to the faith and to thechurch.
And then, for those who havebeen doing junior soldiers for a
while, there is also anopportunity called honor junior
soldiers.
To be an honor junior soldier,you must be at least 10 years
old, you must be a enrolledjunior soldier for at least a
year, attend the core, regularlyparticipate in Sunday school
(19:17):
and then complete the honorjunior soldier course.
Now the honor junior soldiercourse is.
It's pretty, it's prettythorough pretty yeah you learn
salvation army doctrine, notjust what we believe but why we
believe it.
What is the scripturalfoundation behind what we
believe in the salvation army.
You dig deeper into scripturaltruths, how to actually study
the Bible, how to look into you,what it means to be a follower
(19:41):
of Christ.
Salvation army history,different distinctives,
different symbols, terminology,things like that.
And then, once you go throughthat course, you complete a test
, we come out and we administera test to you, and then there's
also a project component thatgoes along with that.
So a project component onfocusing on Christian growth,
the Bible and what would Jesusdo.
(20:02):
Projects service oriented.
And so all of this is gearedtowards not just putting kids in
a uniform right.
That's not why we do what we do,but it's all geared towards
letting our kids know that theyare an important part of our
church, that they can haveownership and say in the church
and that they matter their livesmatter to the kingdom, and that
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God looks at them andrecognizes that they've been
created to give back in such aunique, special way in the
kingdom of God.
And so any questions aboutjunior soldier material can be
directed to our department here,the youth department, and we'd
love to help resource you, helpto encourage you, help to come
out and celebrate in enrollmentIf you have young people in your
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core who are gonna be enrolledas junior soldiers in the next
few weeks or the months to come.
And I just brought my juniorsoldier promise with me today,
wow.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look at that little signature on there 11, 23, 1997.
Hold it up.
Hold it up, Proudly, LittleNate Heinsman.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Little Nate Heinsman.
Who is about?
The same height as I am to thisday, stop it.
On 11, 23, 1997 at the BeaverFalls Pennsylvania core.
It's awesome.
I still have the Bible that Ireceived on that date and, just
looking, I hang this up in myoffice just as a reminder that
I'm grateful for the people whotook time to invest in me as a
young person.
Recognizing that I was a messas a kid.
(21:25):
Sometimes, as all kids are, wehave our own craziness, our
baggage.
I'm a mess today, you know whatI mean Like we're a mess, but
the fact that people take timeto invest in us and to see the
value that is founded, knowingwho Jesus is and living for him,
and so just yeah, it's awesome.
Take time to be intentionalwith your young people and it
will continue to produce resultsfor the kingdom in a powerful
(21:50):
way.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You were a junior soldier as well, Loretta.
I was.
Yeah, me too.
I'm sure the curriculum has tobe different by now, oh, it's
much different.
Yeah, we had to.
I mean, we studied a lot ofSalvationary history, we had to
memorize the order of thegenerals.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, did you do that .
Yeah, do you still know?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I only I got like Booth Higgins.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Booth there's a song.
Yeah, there's a song.
I know Booth Higgins.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Booth, there's a kitchen in there Kitchen or
kitchens.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Kitchen, kitchen, there's a kitchen somewhere
right Kitchens Koontz.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't know man.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm with you.
I go Booth, higgins, booth,statute limitations, yeah all
right?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, but now they have some really cool like video
components that have beendeveloped.
That that's cool.
Not only are it more engaging,but also the representation in
the video is pretty awesome.
Kids can see individuals thatlook like them.
Yeah, yeah, it's engaging.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think what they have done well in recent days
with the junior soldiercurriculum is it's you know kind
of.
You mentioned some of thethings that they have, the
pieces that are available forthe teaching, but you can also
plug in, you know, figure outwhat works best for you, like if
you don't need a nice breaker,if it's the same kids all the
time, or if you want, like youjust pick what works when it
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comes to the stuff surroundingthe actual material and the you
know the substance of the lessonand then you just use what
works and leave the rest and,you know, go from there.
So it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I always think about.
There's like I'll see some ofthose memes on the internet and
the music spheres that I'm inLike they'll show a picture of
the.
Here's the Boston Symphony orChicago Symphony, or even I've
seen, I've seen Salvage 101,here's the New York staff band,
and half the picture says likeif you want this, you have to
support this.
And then it's a picture of like, like the worst sounding
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beginners you've ever heard, orwhatever, but that's where it
starts.
And I think the applicable thinghere for the Salvation Army is
if you want our church to grow,you have to support programs
like Junior Soldiers, youthPrograms, music Programs like
those things helps solidify ourchurch family.
And it's planting seeds, I meanso go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
As you were speaking, just one thing that reminded me
.
You know, we a salvation people.
We believe salvation is.
You know, it's not just thisone time.
We one time come to Jesus, wegive our hearts over to Him, and
then it's it.
You know, it's all about alsobecoming more and more like Him,
and so we want our young peoplenot just to know Jesus but also
to live out their faith, togrow in their faith and to
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hopefully make more disciples,and so that investment of coming
alongside people andrecognizing that discipleship is
a lifelong process.
The Salvation Army is veryintentional about meeting our
young people at an early age andhaving curriculum and programs
and resources for them all theway up to adulthood and beyond,
and so, yeah, invest in it, it'simportant.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Thanks, nate.
Well, we're gonna take a quickbreak here on the Plugged In
podcast and then when we comeback.
We got a couple things.
We have a guessing game withregards to identity deep fakes.
I'll just throw it up.
No, I'll save it.
We'll save it after the breakand then Larita give us a tiny
little preview of our devotionalthought for today.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
We're gonna be talking about identity,
continuing that theme, and whatit actually means to be and to
be called Children of God.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
All right, here we go .
Take a break on the Plugged Inpodcast, we will be right back.
["football"].
All right, we are back, we'reback, we're back.
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Plugged In podcast.
This is season two, episodenumber 12.
Welcome back, nate.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Take it away, all right, so we live in a world
today where AI is kind ofrunnin' wild.
It's a little scary yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like amazing and terrifying at the same time.
It's like every sci-fi filmthat you've seen about the end
of the world with AI.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It feels like we're at the beginning of that story.
We are on the precipice ofdestruction.
Okay, keep going.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Nate.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Anyways, so chat GPT, chat.
Gpt is GPT means Chat,generative, pre-trained
Transformer.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I didn't know that either.
Till I Googled.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But it is an AI-powered language model
capable of generating human-like, text-based responses based on
context and past experiences.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So this has been a lot of stories like college
students are cheating on theirfinal papers because chat.
Gpt is writing them for them,right, yeah, so chat.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
GPT.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It's crazy, it's wild right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So, chat GPT, you can go there and you can kind of
type in a prompt.
They have a website or an app.
You can type in a prompt andjust say, hey, chat GPT, write
me a song, write me a new songfrom Freddie Mercury, and they
can pull things he said ininterviews, they can pull past
things that are kind of hisstyle and put something together
and it's like what All?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
right.
So what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So today, on the topic of identity and real
versus fake sort of things, wewanted to come up with a game
where we are competing againstchat GPT, and so we're gonna do
this in two ways.
We're gonna do it first usversus chat GPT, and then chat
GPT versus us.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's so hard to say it Chat, gpt.
Yeah, what's the story in?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
the 1800s with, like John Henry versus the railroad
spike machine.
Yeah, this is that this is thatmoment man versus machine.
It's 2023.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So, what I typed into the prompt is this I want you
chat GPT to try to guess what weare thinking of in only 10
questions with just yes or noanswers.
So, what we're gonna do iswe're gonna think of something
and in a person, place, thing,inanimate object, whatever, and
then we are gonna give chat GPT10 opportunities to guess that
with just yes or no and see ifit can come up with what we are
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thinking of.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Okay, I have one.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Just, I have not, I'm not gonna say it out loud
because it might be listening.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But I'll make a sound effect and a motion for our
people on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, Blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah,
blah.
Okay, all right.
All right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That was clear to me Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I had something, but it's not as cool as that, so
we're gonna go with that.
All right.
So let's see Game on.
It might be listening, it mightbe listening.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean the bots are listening you are so loud, All
right, here we go.
Microphone boom.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So it says this I'll do my best to try to guess what
you're thinking of.
Please go ahead and think of anobject, concept or person and
I'll start asking questions.
Okay, done.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right here we go Boom.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is it a living thing, yes, or?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
no, no.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Nope, all right, that was question one.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
How many did we?
Give it a limit 10.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
10, okay.
Is it something you can hold inyour hand, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yes.
That's two Make sure you let'skeep track and also tell it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That was question two yes Because last time what we
need to tell the bot how to playthe game.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, last time they went a little over they cheated.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Is it related to technology, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, all right, that's question three.
They're gonna get it.
Can you eat or drink it?
No, no, that's question four.
That's question four we areflying through here.
Is it something commonly foundindoors?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's an odd, it's not common.
I mean it's always foundindoors, but it's not like a
common item.
I would say no.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Like you don't.
The masses don't own that intheir home.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But is it as opposed to commonly found outdoors?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What?
Can you read it again?
Is it something commonly foundindoors?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know if I understand.
Is it saying yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Is it saying it's not object Could be taking multiple
ways Not just say it could beboth.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That's not yesterday's answer.
You might throw the bot off.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't know Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Just say no, no, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, I don't know.
No, is it associated with aspecific season, like a holiday?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, no, unless you're in the Salvation Army?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
True?
Is it man-made?
Yes, so what is this?
How many questions is?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
this oh, I thought you were keeping track.
We were, but then we got intoSeven.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Is it a form of entertainment?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yes, yeah, I'd say yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Is it something you can buy in a store?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I feel like it's getting farther away.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, it's not going to get it.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Based on your answers , oh, I'm going to guess that
you're thinking of a board game.
Wow, sorry, chat GPT, you stink.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Sorry that was so loud.
I can't wait to hear that onthe podcast.
It's kind of like you need tolike put a disclaimer in Like
seconds before.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Turn the volume down.
I just got so excited.
I'm sorry, you were reallyexcited.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, now let's do the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wait, I'm shocked.
Hold on.
I think we really think wethrew it off with not giving
clarity to that one answer.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That one answer went from a possible trombone to a
board game.
I think not.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All right, I'm just going to say no.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think it was just a good.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's not a board game .
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My guess was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Can you please reveal what you're thinking of?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Say trombone, and then it'll tell us why we
answered.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Trombone.
Watch it's going to be like yousaid.
It's not.
Thank you for sharing whatyou're thinking of.
A trombone is a musicalinstrument and it's a unique
choice.
If you have any more questionsor if you'd like to play another
game, feel free to let me know.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Tell chat GPT that they're not a very good podcast
guest.
Tell us that.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Say You're live on a podcast and you're not great,
I'm very disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Listenership is plummeting.
Thanks, chat GPT.
Wow, you're a fast typer.
Did you feel pressure typinglive?
He's like now I do Tell us whatit's like.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I said, you are live on a podcast and you're not
doing great, but I appreciateyour feedback.
If there's anything specificyou want to discuss, or if you
have any questions or topicsyou'd like me to explore during
this podcast, please let me knowand I'll do my best to provide
valuable information.
To engage the conversation,let's play one more, all right?
So do we want to reverse thator do we want to give it another
?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
chance.
No, let's give it one morechance.
The reader you think ofsomething.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay, I don't know how to act.
Mine out, though.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Pressure.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't know how to act it out.
Okay, nate, do what you werethinking of before.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Just tell me what it is and if it is listening and it
gets it.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No we'll know.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
The word is candy corn.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The best word.
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I want to play a game where you only have 10 yes or
no questions to guess what I'mthinking of.
Okay, got it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Okay, we have our thing.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
We have it, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man, is it a living thing?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Nope, is it something you can hold in your hand?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, that's two.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's two Is it commonly found indoors?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yes, yes, three.
We'll be confident in thatanswer this time.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is it a piece of furniture?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Four Is it an electronic device?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No Five.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Is it used for entertainment or leisure?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
No no.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Six.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It's not getting.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Made of metal or plastic?
No, Seven.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It's really out of the ballpark here.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I think it's good.
Is it related to cooking orfood preparation?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Let's just say yes, yes, Eight.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is it a kitchen utensil?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No Nine.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's not going to get in.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Is it a type of food?
Yes, ten.
Is it a spice or seasoning?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They're just going to keep going.
They're just going to keepgoing, all right, no.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Just keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Let's see, let's see.
I'm sorry, I couldn't guesscorrectly.
Ten questions, can you please?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
reveal what you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, I feel bad for poor chat GPT, let's just say
let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's crazy because in our prep meeting we did like
this twice and it got it in likesix.
Yeah, is it a type of fruit?
No, nope, that's 12.
I apologize.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Can you please tell me?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's like stop.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Just tell me it's nervous.
That's on the podcast.
All right, I'll let it know.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'll let it know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'll let it know it's candy corn.
Wow, I'm a little disappointed.
I know man.
We set that one up for.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Thank you for letting me know.
Candy corn is a classicHalloween candy.
That's true.
We were thinking it's true,it's true, it's a classic.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Halloween candy.
It's true, it's a classicHalloween candy.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's true.
It's true, have you?
I've read some articles andthese are like way out there,
but like people are starting tocreate like AI, like boyfriends
and girlfriends yes, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Did you see the?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like they're paying like subscription apps to create
like someone who will talk tothem, who will like it's.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It's really sad yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, we fooled it.
We fooled chat GPT guys.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We did it we did it on the resume.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We I don't feel good about it.
Wow, we're getting choked up.
He is literally choked up, man,yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I expected more out of chat GPT.
Yeah, next time.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well, we'll just, you know, let's, let's just go talk
about they haven't.
They haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
They haven't perfected it yet.
Let's talk about Jesus.
Let's go talk about Jesus.
How's that Jesus?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay, so question for you both Do you know the origin
of your names?
Do you know, like, why you werenamed Matt or why you were
named Nathaniel?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I know it means gift from God, but I don't know like.
I think that's why my parentspicked it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Aw, that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I don't know why my parents picked it, but I
remember as a kid being upsetwhen I read in the Bible that
there was an Nathaniel and hisname was spelled different than
mine.
Oh, I was like, so you what?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I wasn't good enough to get the biblical spelling.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So anyways.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Before I jump in, I just want to read the scripture
to you from the first John, 3,1-3.
It says see what great love theFather has lavished on us, that
we should be called children ofGod, and this is what we are.
The reason that the world doesnot know us is that it did not
know him.
Dear friends, now we arechildren of God and what we will
be has not yet been made known.
But we know that when Christappears, we shall be like him,
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for we shall see him as he is,and all who have this hope in
him purify themselves just as heis pure.
So our son, jackson, came home.
He's in preschool.
He came home a couple of weeksago with this little homework
and what's his like firsthomework.
But anyway, he came home withhomework and I already had I was
like we can't get this done buta piece of paper and it was
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what's your name?
Tell us your name, where didyour name come from?
And it's, you know, beginningof the school year, and so
they're learning who's in theirclass and whatnot.
And so when we were pregnantwith Jackson, we could not
decide on a name and so we justcalled him baby H for the
longest time because we wereback and forth and back and
forth.
Baby H, Baby H, that was what hewas.
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My sister was so angry and allour friends thought we were like
holding the name.
We didn't want to tell anyone.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I was like we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
So we were like, okay , maybe like when we see him
we'll know, we'll know.
So anyone that kind of knowssome of the background to our
story knows that Jackson was agift to us.
Jackson has been, you know, amiracle child and he has been
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everything to us.
But we named him JacksonCourage, because Jackson not
only is in the family, nate'sgrandfather's, middle name was
Jackson, but it also means Godhas been gracious, which really
spoke to us during that time.
And then his middle name isCourage, which was actually my
grandmother's maiden name, RuthCourage.
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And so Jackson Courage is hisname, but-.
And all the boys in your family, and my dad is Peter Courage,
my brother is Peter Courage andnow Jude and August are both
Courage, so they're all theCourage boys.
So it was important, and we putso much pressure on ourselves,
to name Jackson, something thatmeant something.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Can I happen real quick?
Yeah, so when Caleb was born,we were between Caleb and Carter
.
Those were the two names and wewere the same way.
We were like we just need tomeet him.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yes, and then we'll know.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
So he was born, and no, right before he was born,
the doctor was just like thisbaby's gotta come out, like
let's call his name, like what'shis name.
And we were just like, well,we're between Caleb and Carter.
And the doctor was like, well,what are those names mean?
So we were like Caleb is likewith a brave heart.
And then we were like Cartermeans man who pushes cart and
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the doctor was like this baby'sname is Caleb.
Thank you, doctor.
Hopefully no one named Carterout there as offended.
We love you, carter.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, when I was growing up, I remember coming
home from school with a verysimilar project and assignment
and I wrote this whole paragraphon what I thought my name
represented.
Where I got my name, I thoughtthat I was named after my
grandma.
Her name is Loretta.
And in our family we haveLoretta.
My mom is Lorenda, sister'sLarissa, and I'm Larita, and so
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I was like, oh, I'm clearly,it's just like you know a sub
variation of Loretta.
So my whole life people had andthey've always mistaken my name
for Loretta.
I've been called Lorettainstead of Loretta.
How many times I was likethat's naturally what my name is
.
I wrote this whole assignmentabout being named after my
grandmother and no one in myfamily corrected me, so this was
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my thought.
It wasn't until a couple ofyears ago.
We were probably sitting at thedinner table or something and
conversation comes up and Ibrought up being named after
grandma.
I was probably trying to rub itin my sister's face, like well,
I'm named after grandma, and Iwas immediately stopped and my
mom was like, oh, that's notwhere your name came from.
And I was like, oh, by the way.
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I was like, oh well, what do wemean by this?
Turns out my dad dated someonewho had a name that my mom liked
I'm not going to put it onblast, but had a name that my
mom liked.
My mom changed that name andcame up with Loretta.
So in essence, like the originof my name was actually one of
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my dad's ex-girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That is amazing.
And your mom's cool with that.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Oh, she loved the name and she was like I'm just
changing this and my mom kind ofcreated my name.
But it was a very humblingexperience to go from bragging
about oh, I'm named aftergrandma to like no, you're not
named after the matriarch of ourfamily, so it was an
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interesting experience.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
All that to say.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
That's awesome.
Like how we get our names isimportant.
And names are important.
They give us identity, theydenote purpose.
Even during, like, stafforientation at camp, we stress
the importance to our counselorsabout learning their campers'
names call them by their names.
Like it gives us a sense ofpride and purpose when we're
called by our names, there's asense of worth that comes along
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with it, knowing that you areknown and that you're important.
Well, in the scripture that Iread earlier, there's a few
small truths that we can easilygloss over, but I just want to
highlight them.
The author writes see whatgreat love the Father has
lavished on us that we should becalled children of God.
You see, it's out of his lovefor us that we've been given a
new name.
We've been given a new identity.
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We've been called children ofGod.
You see, it's grace that tellsus that we're undeserving of
this name.
But it's also the same namethat shows us the true depth of
his love, and it's the truedepth of that love that's the
motivating factor behind allthat he does for us that we're
undeserving of.
He has rescued us, he'ssacrificed for us, he's forgiven
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us and even there, which wedon't deserve it, could have
been left there, it could havenot gone any further because we
didn't even deserve that, letalone anything more.
But he shows us that deeperlove by taking us into his
family and calling us childrenof God.
There is nothing within us orin the nature of the world that
requires God to go beyond thatforgiving, redeeming, rescuing,
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healing love that presses allthe way in to make us a child of
God.
And then it goes on to say andthat is what we are, the reason
the world does not know us isthat it did not know him.
And I think that when I wasreading this through I kind of
camped out on that and that wasa challenging piece, right.
Because the fact is God is forus, he's for you and his love
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for all of us is so extravagantand if that's true, we often can
wrestle with.
If his love is so real and hislove is so deep, how is there so
much evil and hatred?
And I mean thinking just sorecently to the shootings in
Lewiston and kind of how closeto home that hit.
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But we can question it.
Why is there so much negativeand evil and bad things around
us?
But if we take a look inwardly.
Are we really making that loveknown to those around us?
You know, it's like what am Idoing to change that?
What am I doing to be that loveincarnate to those around me?
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Am I just seeing it?
Am I seeing all those thingsaround me, or am I actively
trying to make that love knownand change the way that the
world is?
It's such a bitter truth toswallow, but the reason that the
world does not know that we areloved by the God of creation is
because they do not know him.
And so are we, his church, webelievers, making it easier or
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harder for the world to know thelove of Jesus.
How does the love of God,knowing that he has called you
his child, how does that affectyou personally?
How does it change your outlookon yourself?
How does it change your outlookon others?
I say this a lot, especiallyduring camp, but maybe it needs
a repeat, so if you've heard it,I apologize, but I'm a very
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visual person and so when I'msinging a song, I can often
visualize the picture that'sbeing painted by the lyrics.
I remember back in the day whenI played with the Greater New
York Youth Band as a teenager.
If there was a movement orthere a portion of a piece that
I knew the lyrics thatcorresponded with that tune.
I would often write the lyricsin the margins because to me, if
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I was reading it as I wasplaying and I reminded as I went
into it, it was like man, I'mable to send these words out
through my instrument, just thewords.
I'm very visual.
I wanna see it, I wanna feel it.
But today, this passage, thistruth, is something that Christ
offers to us, right?
He's offering us this chance tobe known and to be received as
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his child.
There's nothing that we can doto earn his love, there's
nothing we can do to deservebeing called a child of God.
But what we do to make itharder to accept is we hold on
to our own stuff, right?
So this is my visual when theLord is offering me things and
he's offering me grace and he'soffering me peace in difficult
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situations, I picture all thestuff I'm holding on to and I
can't receive anything he'sgiven to me because I'm holding
on to my own stuff, my owntruths, the things that I've
decided are truth, my ownmistakes, my own flaws, my own
belief that I'll never bedeserving enough.
I hold on to it so tightly thatI cannot receive that which he
is so longing to give me.
(45:23):
We all hold on so tightly to allthat stuff that there isn't
room to be able to claim whatGod wants for us and what he
wants to give us.
So I visualize trying to put itdown, trying to lay down this
stuff, empty my arms of all thefalsehoods that have brought me
fleeting comforts or all thethings that I've held on to for
so long, to lay it down and tocreate space to be able to
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accept that God wants to give tome.
So to those listening to usaround this table, to myself,
I'm here this louder today, overwhatever you're facing,
whatever you're going through,that you are loved, you are
valued and that you are a childof God.
That the God of Yahweh, the Godof I am, whispers that over you
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today, that His presence iswith you, that His power
sustains you and His breathgives you life.
And it's God that says I am andthat's it he is.
I'm not sure what God has beenwhispering over you recently,
but what can you start layingdown?
To pick up what we've held,what can we lay down that we've
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held on to you for so long andstart leaning into what God has
for us.
And today he's telling you thathe loves you and that you are
His child.
So just to try and claim thattoday, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
As you were talking about names and the power of
names, I was thinking of Satan.
Like Satan's name literallymeans accuser, and how often we
allow the power of hisaccusations to become the truth
to us that we are broken, thatwe're failures, that we're
sinners, that we're condemned,that we're not worthy not good
(47:06):
enough?
And how those names?
If we give those names power, Ican really paralyze us and hold
us hostage.
And yet, when you're talkingabout God, you know, speaking
his love over us.
I get this visualization of likeToy Story with like God you
know, andy writing his name onWoody's boot.
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And like God, imprinting his,stamping, his name on us, that
we belong to him and that, nomatter what, even if we're lost
and far off, we know we belongto him and that we can come back
safely home to him.
And just beautiful imagery ofthe power of God's intentional
love over us yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I'm very visual as well, so I like that the way you
explain that where you're, justyou're holding onto so many
things, it's weighing you down.
And then you just saidsometimes that is paralyzes,
isn't the?
It's not the right, it's notquite the word I'm thinking, but
it you're moved to inaction.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, you're frozen.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Maybe that's the word I'm looking for You're frozen,
you're stuck, you can't moveforward, you can't do anything
because you're so weighed downby everything that you're
carrying, and a lot of those arefalsehoods and stuff that don't
hold any power of truth.
Right, but the other side ofthat visual is you tend to
forget that, as you're walkingwith all of these things that
are weighing you down, jesus isright there beside you saying
(48:33):
like hey, I can hand it over, Ican take this, I'll take it all
actually.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Let me make this easier for you.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, but no I.
It's powerful imagery.
I'm curious what band piece youwere playing, but it was the
one I can think of.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You're a second cornet too, right?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, oh, I held that down At the end of every big
piece that's like the gloriousmoment for the second cornet.
It's because everyone's likethe second cornet's got the
melody.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Blast it out.
And that's, I think.
That's why I would write it,because I'd be like I'm, I would
play it more powerfully.
Oh my gosh, I would tickle mythroat, oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
No, you're, you're, you're dead.
Legendary second cornet for fordecades.
It's the Vaughn seat and thestaff band.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
I always told Gordon, like don't, don't move me, I
don't want to go, don't move meup the road.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
This is my seat, second cornet's, where it's at
Yep.
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So it was power of your love.
That's the one that I alwaysthink of.
There's that one I can'tremember the title, but the the
tune was power of your love, andI wrote it in the.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Lord, I come to you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Falling from the grave that I found, whatever it
was.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Thank you.
Thank you, matt, whatever itwas.
Second, cornet's had a littleblast that couple years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
It was really interesting.
I think it's a couple of yearsago at Starlake or maybe a
different territorial event.
Unbound kind of did like awhole nineties medley like an
entire night of all the worshipsongs from the nineties where it
was really interesting, cause Ithink people of our generation
that grew up on those songs likeback then like songs weren't
churned out as quickly as theyare now, so you sang those songs
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to death over and over.
But I found that when Unboundbrought them back.
Like I hadn't sung a lot ofthese songs in years, I didn't
need the words on the screen.
I knew every single lyric, andwe're talking like three verses
deep Like I.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
just you just knew them.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
They're imprinted on your heart.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But thank you for those thoughts, loretta.
I think that's stuff that wecan all take with us this week.
Nate, do you mind closingwrapping that with a prayer?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, let's pray, god , we are so grateful that you
call us yours and that, lord,even in spite of ourselves and
our brokenness, god, you seevalue, you see purpose, lord,
and through it all, you love uscompletely.
God, I thank you for the wordthat was brought forth today,
lord, I thank you that we, forthose of us who do know you and
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have received you, god, you'vegiven us the right to be called
children of God and so, lord,the urgency and the burden
really, god, on our hearts tolive out that experience so that
others can also see and know,lord, that you desire to call
them your children as well, god,we all have people in our lives
, god, who are far from you,lord.
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We all have people that we canthink of even in this moment,
and sometimes maybe evenourselves, god, who are living
our days stuck or held hostageor paralyzed by fear and regret.
But, god, I pray, lord, thatyou would continue to just allow
your light to break through.
Lord, make us ambassadors andrepresentatives of you in this
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world that is so dark in so manyways.
And, god, may just theoverwhelming flood of your love
to become the most real andpowerful thing that can drive
out darkness.
We pray this in your name, amen.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Amen, all right guys.
Well, we're pretty close to awrap on episode 12 of season two
, or I didn't say the rightepisode, 12 overall.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yes, episode three of season two.
Technically, how do you?
How should we number that?
Because I could change themonline.
Should I keep?
Should I say this is episode 12or should I say season two,
episode three?
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I kind of like the two 2.3.
I do too.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't know why I just kept.
I do Then let's do it.
Yeah, okay, I'll change it up2.3.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
So forget everything you heard in the beginning of
this episode, episode three ofseason two, the plug-in podcast.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
I heard that I feel like we went crazy with the mics
today.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
We did A lot of stuff going on.
I'm sorry it's been a while.
Nate, that was my favorite,though I had to put chat GPT in
its place, because I feel likeyou told that.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
You showed that.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
I feel like we're getting very close to the day
when it will be telling us whatto do.
Yeah Well, we got some stuffcoming up.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I know you guys have the officers retreats coming up
and sounds.
Christmas is at the beginningof December.
We've got one more youth artsministry in November.
Yep, thanksgiving's coming up.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
I think we should all be thinking.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
We should get our lists together.
We're going to have to have ourfavorite Thanksgiving things
and put that on socials.
Do it right now?
No, I'm just kidding.
I mean we probably could in theoff time, right.
But we'll call that a wrap forthis episode of the plug-in
podcast and that's all I got.
Yeah, we'll see you next time.
Hi everyone, welcome back to the Plugged In podcast.
Hello, good to be back.
It's always good to be back.
This is episode number 12.
12.
Oh yeah, episode number 12 intotal for season number 2, this
is episode 3.
This is also 3 episodes in arow that we have recorded in the
same location.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
This is record.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is new record here.
That's an all time record.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I would say it's nice .
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, you can't tell on the YouTube stream.
We are really, really squeezedin here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We are as cased into this little location, I think,
as we can be.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But it's starting to feel like home.
It's nice.
You guys got any open thoughts,or should I just roll right
away?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh, I would just like to say go jets.
Oh, sorry, boys, sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So it will be funny when this airs like 2 weeks from
now, and it will have lost 2weeks in a row.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I'm saying whenever this airs it's not
really I mean.
So the jets won yesterday,which in reality was October
29th.
I guess this is airing thisFriday we're behind schedule.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Rush, we had a little bump in the schedule.
Oh right, you cancelled on us.
You had a sick child.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The day was crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So we did?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
we had to bump out of recording.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So we're a little behind schedule.
We are recording today isactually Monday, october 30th.
This episode is coming out.
You guys will.
It's going to drop on Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Friday is November.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Third Third.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Maybe In my experience with these things
long pauses of silence are notgreat.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
November 3rd, starting off strong.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
All right, well, I just have an opening thought.
A couple of weeks ago, orweekends ago, we had the kickoff
to youth arts ministry.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It felt like a good day.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was really a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We had some changes with our schedule.
The older kids got to pick twomajors instead of one and it
just seemed like it gave them alittle bit more energy, more
focus, more fun kind of allaround.
And I will say, one of theheroes of the day, captain Nate
Heinzman, no way Hero.
Kept, kept, kept, kept, keptkept.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Wow, just blew out the microphone.
Did not know what to do withthat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Captain Nate was the replacement for my replacement
and really stepped in at thelast hour.
Really the evening before I wasliterally sitting on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So I was your last choice In the hallway.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You weren't my first choice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, Nate, you're always my first choice Caught up
from the practice squad.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The band love no, he stepped right in and took over
the game time for the nine totwelve year olds and, literally
on like an eight hours of notice, he was able to play some
awesome games with the kids and,captain, I think I feel like
you were born for that kind ofstuff.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That was so weird, you calling him Captain.
Captain, that was so weird.
Well, we saw how desperate youknow of a situation it was when
you were just camped out on theground.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I was just like sitting on the floor in the
hallway at the HQ.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Guys, what do I do?
Walking past Hands?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Tissue box Just crying yeah, it was, I was okay
let's revise that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was not crying, there was no tissues, I was
trying to figure out what to do,but no, nate stepped in and it
was awesome.
On top of that, it wasinteresting.
There's a lot of officers andhelpers at YAM on Saturdays and
they do a fantastic job.
One thing every time we recordan episode, I kind of like say
to you guys, like you knowwhat's our listenership like,
(03:40):
what's our listenership like man, I cannot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It is Monday, I don't know, and again no coffee Word.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No, I just like with every episode I'm just like you
know, should we keep going?
Like you know who's listeningand stuff like that, and we have
stats and everything.
But it was very unique onSaturday at YAM.
It was just like unprompted,without asking people.
I think the YouTube podcastthis season is a big hit.
Yeah, because a lot of peopleare tuning in.
They'd rather watch the videosthan just listen on Spotify or
(04:10):
Apple, whatever it is.
But just a couple of people hadsome really nice things to say
and it's always encouraging.
I think it helps us keep going.
Yeah, and yeah, it's fun for usto do, but it's even more fun
when people say they areactually listening.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I know I'm like wow, other people find us funny too.
It's like it's encouragementthere.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
On Friday night at a Friday night fellowship, which
was a great time.
Captain Jeff Brunel and LilyBrunel both commented on the
limitations or Taylor Swiftsegment.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Got some Swifties out there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So yeah, that was a hit.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
When I listened back to that and I had to listen, so
when I edit these episodes Ihave to listen to each segment
like quite a few times and I wasjust like man.
This is so embarrassing BecauseI did roll the tape back.
Nate got every single one right.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Did you cheat when I was putting that together?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I was rolling around like 35%, like it was real bad.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, at some point you were answering so quick.
I'm like do you know, or isthis just like a guess?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No, the Lord revealed it to me.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Oh my gosh, so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, that's it for my opening thoughts.
You guys have anything I feellike?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh, I already said mine, so I'm good.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, you said you had a bone to pick with me.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh, I do.
I felt slighted and cheated tohear that our very own Matthew
Lund sat behind a differentmicrophone and gave his thoughts
to a different podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think, this is where the camera cuts away from
Matt.
The one Matt.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Matt was very, he was very upfront about it and he
texted us and said hey guys.
I really just want to let youknow Yep, you know it wasn't.
We weren't blindsided by it,and our response was Matt, you
are the Taylor Swift in thissituation.
They need you to up theirratings.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
To be fair, I that was not my response.
You were like Matt, it's fine,you can do it, and I was like no
, I don't think this is a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's a really good impression of Nate.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Can you do that again ?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Matt, it's fine.
No, okay, so all right.
I did go on another podcastthis week.
I was at a territorialheadquarters for a conference of
the music directors all weeklong and on Wednesday, after the
New York staff band Rousals,they do a weekly podcast called
Talk of Ages, and you can't be.
(06:28):
It can't be too much of a boneto pick.
Your father was on the podcast,like last week.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, but my father's on a host of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, that is true, thank you.
I'm going to ask you guys, andI said so is this cheating or
are we good?
So, yes, I was on the podcast,it was fun, but you'll be happy
to know that, even though theydid not ask me, I slipped in a
plug for the plugged in podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I was going to ask.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think they were all kind of annoyed actually.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, they were just like whoa.
There it is Like so no, it'sinteresting, there's a great
outside of this podcast.
So if you want to talk of, agesis the name of the podcast and
it is rooted in humor.
I mean if you want to likelaugh to till you're crying.
Mark Baker and Matt Hudson twoof the funniest human beings
that I've ever For sure, forsure.
(07:17):
It's almost like when you're inthe room, you feel like you're
competing, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You just can't.
Oh my gosh, I'd be like sittingin a seat of anxiousness like
trying to come up with the nextfunny story because we just
couldn't yeah they're next leveland it's great, so it was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The other podcast that comes to mind in this part
and these parts the Wild.
West, in these parts.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
In these parts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, have you ever listened to?
Drew Forster has a podcastcalled the Creator Podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, have you listened to that?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, so he's several seasons into that now, but his
podcast is really interviewbased and really takes deep
dives on people who are thecreative type.
So we're both of you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You were on that right and you were on that name
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So he's had far, far, far more interesting people
than me and he's done a reallygood job with that.
So if you're interested ineither of those podcasts in
addition to this one that's,talk of Ages is a New York staff
band podcast and it is forbanders.
I mean it's like this composer,that piece, like it's, you know
.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's what I have to like, like pass forward through
a little bit to get to thefunny stuff.
The funny stuff, Because I'mlike I don't even know what
they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I feel like I would need to do my research
beforehand so that I could havesomething of substance to offer
to the conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, so that's Talk of Ages and Drew Forster does
the creator podcast.
Both of them are qualityproducts.
Yeah for sure.
So yeah, all right, lorena, yougot something for us.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I have a game, and Matt has no idea what it is, so
this is even better.
Okay, so we're going to play agame of heads up, and before we
do anything, I need us to pick acategory pop culture icons,
maybe Matthew Newton icons,legends and stars is there?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
is there like a gardening slash, lawn care
category, because he might getthat one?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
no, there's no, let's just do icons, legends and
stars.
So how?
What happens?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I don't want to do this so embarrassing all the
time, okay okay, it's not likejust relax, take a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Okay, there, it is great job.
So you're gonna hold, we'regonna okay, I'm not doing a
great job at explaining.
We're gonna pass my phonearound.
Okay, everyone gets one turnand you hold the phone, like
this, above your head yep, andthere's gonna be something
displayed, and then the othertwo.
So if it was me holding it, youtoo have to explain what's on
my head, okay, okay, and so theperson holding it is trying to
(09:32):
guess yeah, and then I think youtip it up yeah, when it's
correct okay we're gonna passyou just tip it down.
Okay, let's do.
Let's do.
Icons, legends and stars.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know how I like to pass like a hundred times.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't know pop culture, I don't know famous
people want to do animals gonewild.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know, it's just an option or blockbuster
movies.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I don't care, just give me a blackbuster movies.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's gonna be easier.
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm gonna do icons, cuz I don't.
I tried doing the superstarsone.
Like to test this out.
It was really difficult okay oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A little noise on for a get ready okay two okay, here
we go oh, thank you 80s, 80ssinger Whitney.
Houston, no guy carelesswhisper oh, oh Michaels, george
Michaels yeah, good job.
Oh, I have no idea how to I'mnot gonna win African-American
(10:33):
woman pass.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That might be totally wrong yeah, I'm already on the
countdown all right, yeah, 80sagain, I think.
So I don't even know what tosay all right, let's just okay,
this is a trial round, okay wow,I don't know the person next.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh, I don't know this is the worst of all time okay
this is like my fair lady,classic actress.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Audrey Hepburn different name, different first
name other other Hepburn.
Jim wow we just tore that upguys okay, let's try it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Let's try it.
May you try a differentcategory?
That was terrible.
Wait, not now it'll show whatwas that category?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
icons icons.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So oh, billie Holiday .
Michelle Pfeiffer yeah, 80s.
Simmons, lisa, no, catherineHepburn okay, wow man all right
that was an all-timer that waslike super bad.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That was terrible okay okay, not, not because of
you.
Okay, so this pop culture actedout is pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think it acted out well, it's just like it's easier
things to describe, or who'snext?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I guess I'll go, nate will go and we'll close it out
can I?
Can I do animals gone wild,because I'm intrigued?
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm curious and scared, yeah, okay please put
your arm around the microphone.
Get ready three push down so upis oh okay, elephant Dumbo yeah
, down a plague of these littlelocusts yes, oh, it's hearing
Speaker 2 (12:23):
my voice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh, scarlett Johansson is black widow yeah
wow this is good.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Category a being us we are human, yes a spider with
web.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Not a mom, but a dad yeah spider and has really
father, no tarantula, no thinkof a spider.
Daddy, daddy, long leg.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, you can't say the word oh, pack a drug, a drug
animal, a drug pack mule, no,yes you got it yeah oh not an
alligator, but a crocodile yesoh, stop moving it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Black black duck yes it's doing it on its own.
Oh, these things are savagesand they like.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They're long and green and this oh praying mantis
, yeah little tiny guy ant yesall right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I guess, animals gone wild is.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That is.
That's our back, and we set itup for Matt, oh my goodness, we
have that back.
These animals are savagesblowing out our microphones yeah
, I saw.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sorry, I saw a video of a oh, they do like eat the
yeah, like a massive spider it'sthe head off the mail or
something.
I don't know.
All right, here's, here's theoptions, and you just click it
and put it on your head okay,animals go wild.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Icons, legend stars, pop culture superstars super
stars was really difficult.
I acted out blockbuster movies.
Every one of these is gonna bejust embarrassing how about?
There's a kind of called justkidding.
Yeah, alright, just kid.
Is it like comedians, we don'tknow.
Also just like a picture ofkids, okay okay, get ready.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
On my forehead so it sounds like it's hearing us.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So you don't need to move it ready oh videos social
media platform a tiktok yes, yesokay, got it right we're
wearing right now headphones.
Yes, oh, this is a kind of formof movement with dance,
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rhythmic, rhythmic, yes but whatthings on on your, on your
shoes that make a clacking?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
noise?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
oh, tap, tap yes wow, my brain stop oh this is a Wii
game and you hold the Wii remoteand bowling the song, that
tennis the song dadadadoo do wetennis, we bowling, we golf but
you use it and you follow themovements on the screen of the
people and you, alright, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Wow, all right, if surprise, yeah, yeah, exactly
exactly, oh, oh.
Dan is a yo play is a?
What brand of cereal?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I didn't hear the first one.
We're just gonna go play nopeyogurt.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Wow, it's over, it's good.
Wow the first one.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm really, really that's over.
I'm sweating wait.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
The first one was the amazing world of gumball what
is?
I don't even know what that isyogurt.
Yogurt was the last one well,well done everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Don't falsely build me up.
That was awful.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I mean, you got more than I got.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But I had a really hard topic category I did yikes.
Alright, nate, you're gonnamove us into yeah the junior
soldier ministry tip of themonth is brought to you by
captain Nathan Yolhain's man,yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh, did you want to provide some context?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
well, just so, the ministry tip for this month and
the whole kind of thread ortheme of this episode ties along
with junior soldier Sunday,which is this upcoming Sunday,
yep, november 4th, 5th, the 3rd,4th 5th November 5th it's
Monday day is it November 5th?
Oh, it's Nate's favorite dayever, daylight savings time and
(16:14):
not gonna lie, he thought thatdaylight savings was last Sunday
.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was getting ready, I was tailgating and everything
he said his like real, likeclock back he was so ready.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So November 5th, junior soldier Sunday, and so
our devotional kind of revolvearound the theme that the
territory has rolled out forthat, and then Nate has just a
ministry tip about juniorsoldiers.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, just wanted to just help provide some
resourcing and some clarity asto what junior soldiers is all
about, what the aim of it is.
And so junior soldiers is a isa discipleship program designed
for children in your core, ages7 to 13, and really any child
who's been attending your corefor a month can participate.
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They just want a ten consistentattendance of about a month and
then you can jump in, and thewhole purpose of junior soldiers
is to help develop spiritualawareness, to increase Bible
knowledge, to guide our youngpeople in appropriate lifestyle
to to the faith, and also tojust provide some clarity as to
what we believe in the SalvationArmy, what our practices and
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principles and practices andprinciples are, and also to
provide opportunities forleadership and participation in
different aspects of leadershipthere's a lot of peas in that.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I know a lot of peas.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So if you are wondering about junior soldiers,
where, where do I get aresource material?
Where do I find everything fromprincipal, principal, take-home
lessons, take away packages?
Salvation army youth org isyour hub.
You can go to salvation armyyouth org and from there there
is an entire section devoted tojunior soldiers.
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If you look through the packetsthat are listed there, the PDFs
each lesson you'll see is iscompiled in such a way that's
very easy.
It'll list a high-energyicebreaker game, a Bible lesson,
a video component that goeswith each lesson and then some
fun printable worksheets thatyou can take away.
And so I looked at thedashboard just today and they
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have lessons all the way throughspring 2027 available there for
for print and for review.
For those individuals who aren'tyet old enough to participate
in junior soldiers or beenrolled as a junior soldier,
they can take the totally hisprep course, which is six
lessons focusing on beingtotally focused, totally
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forgiven, totally obedient,totally devoted, totally clean
and totally committed to God.
And so we recognize thatdiscipleship is a lifelong
process and we want to invest inour young people early, because
statistics will show that if wecan introduce our children to
Christ at an early age, theroots that are formed in those
formative years are going togrow and they're going to
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produce seeds and they're gonnahelp keep them rooted and
anchored to the faith and to thechurch.
And then, for those who havebeen doing junior soldiers for a
while, there is also anopportunity called honor junior
soldiers.
To be an honor junior soldier,you must be at least 10 years
old, you must be a enrolledjunior soldier for at least a
year, attend the core, regularlyparticipate in Sunday school
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and then complete the honorjunior soldier course.
Now the honor junior soldiercourse is.
It's pretty, it's prettythorough pretty yeah you learn
salvation army doctrine, notjust what we believe but why we
believe it.
What is the scripturalfoundation behind what we
believe in the salvation army.
You dig deeper into scripturaltruths, how to actually study
the Bible, how to look into you,what it means to be a follower
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of Christ.
Salvation army history,different distinctives,
different symbols, terminology,things like that.
And then, once you go throughthat course, you complete a test
, we come out and we administera test to you, and then there's
also a project component thatgoes along with that.
So a project component onfocusing on Christian growth,
the Bible and what would Jesusdo.
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Projects service oriented.
And so all of this is gearedtowards not just putting kids in
a uniform right.
That's not why we do what we do,but it's all geared towards
letting our kids know that theyare an important part of our
church, that they can haveownership and say in the church
and that they matter their livesmatter to the kingdom, and that
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God looks at them andrecognizes that they've been
created to give back in such aunique, special way in the
kingdom of God.
And so any questions aboutjunior soldier material can be
directed to our department here,the youth department, and we'd
love to help resource you, helpto encourage you, help to come
out and celebrate in enrollmentIf you have young people in your
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core who are gonna be enrolledas junior soldiers in the next
few weeks or the months to come.
And I just brought my juniorsoldier promise with me today,
wow.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Look at that little signature on there 11, 23, 1997.
Hold it up.
Hold it up, Proudly, LittleNate Heinsman.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Little Nate Heinsman.
Who is about?
The same height as I am to thisday, stop it.
On 11, 23, 1997 at the BeaverFalls Pennsylvania core.
It's awesome.
I still have the Bible that Ireceived on that date and, just
looking, I hang this up in myoffice just as a reminder that
I'm grateful for the people whotook time to invest in me as a
young person.
Recognizing that I was a messas a kid.
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Sometimes, as all kids are, wehave our own craziness, our
baggage.
I'm a mess today, you know whatI mean Like we're a mess, but
the fact that people take timeto invest in us and to see the
value that is founded, knowingwho Jesus is and living for him,
and so just yeah, it's awesome.
Take time to be intentionalwith your young people and it
will continue to produce resultsfor the kingdom in a powerful
(21:50):
way.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You were a junior soldier as well, Loretta.
I was.
Yeah, me too.
I'm sure the curriculum has tobe different by now, oh, it's
much different.
Yeah, we had to.
I mean, we studied a lot ofSalvationary history, we had to
memorize the order of thegenerals.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, did you do that .
Yeah, do you still know?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I only I got like Booth Higgins.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Booth there's a song.
Yeah, there's a song.
I know Booth Higgins.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Booth, there's a kitchen in there Kitchen or
kitchens.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Kitchen, kitchen, there's a kitchen somewhere
right Kitchens Koontz.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't know man.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm with you.
I go Booth, higgins, booth,statute limitations, yeah all
right?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, but now they have some really cool like video
components that have beendeveloped.
That that's cool.
Not only are it more engaging,but also the representation in
the video is pretty awesome.
Kids can see individuals thatlook like them.
Yeah, yeah, it's engaging.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think what they have done well in recent days
with the junior soldiercurriculum is it's you know kind
of.
You mentioned some of thethings that they have, the
pieces that are available forthe teaching, but you can also
plug in, you know, figure outwhat works best for you, like if
you don't need a nice breaker,if it's the same kids all the
time, or if you want, like youjust pick what works when it
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comes to the stuff surroundingthe actual material and the you
know the substance of the lessonand then you just use what
works and leave the rest and,you know, go from there.
So it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I always think about.
There's like I'll see some ofthose memes on the internet and
the music spheres that I'm inLike they'll show a picture of
the.
Here's the Boston Symphony orChicago Symphony, or even I've
seen, I've seen Salvage 101,here's the New York staff band,
and half the picture says likeif you want this, you have to
support this.
And then it's a picture of like, like the worst sounding
(23:30):
beginners you've ever heard, orwhatever, but that's where it
starts.
And I think the applicable thinghere for the Salvation Army is
if you want our church to grow,you have to support programs
like Junior Soldiers, youthPrograms, music Programs like
those things helps solidify ourchurch family.
And it's planting seeds, I meanso go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
As you were speaking, just one thing that reminded me
.
You know, we a salvation people.
We believe salvation is.
You know, it's not just thisone time.
We one time come to Jesus, wegive our hearts over to Him, and
then it's it.
You know, it's all about alsobecoming more and more like Him,
and so we want our young peoplenot just to know Jesus but also
to live out their faith, togrow in their faith and to
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hopefully make more disciples,and so that investment of coming
alongside people andrecognizing that discipleship is
a lifelong process.
The Salvation Army is veryintentional about meeting our
young people at an early age andhaving curriculum and programs
and resources for them all theway up to adulthood and beyond,
and so, yeah, invest in it, it'simportant.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Thanks, nate.
Well, we're gonna take a quickbreak here on the Plugged In
podcast and then when we comeback.
We got a couple things.
We have a guessing game withregards to identity deep fakes.
I'll just throw it up.
No, I'll save it.
We'll save it after the breakand then Larita give us a tiny
little preview of our devotionalthought for today.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
We're gonna be talking about identity,
continuing that theme, and whatit actually means to be and to
be called Children of God.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
All right, here we go .
Take a break on the Plugged Inpodcast, we will be right back.
["football"].
All right, we are back, we'reback, we're back.
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Plugged In podcast.
This is season two, episodenumber 12.
Welcome back, nate.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Take it away, all right, so we live in a world
today where AI is kind ofrunnin' wild.
It's a little scary yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like amazing and terrifying at the same time.
It's like every sci-fi filmthat you've seen about the end
of the world with AI.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It feels like we're at the beginning of that story.
We are on the precipice ofdestruction.
Okay, keep going.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Nate.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Anyways, so chat GPT, chat.
Gpt is GPT means Chat,generative, pre-trained
Transformer.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I didn't know that either.
Till I Googled.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But it is an AI-powered language model
capable of generating human-like, text-based responses based on
context and past experiences.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So this has been a lot of stories like college
students are cheating on theirfinal papers because chat.
Gpt is writing them for them,right, yeah, so chat.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
GPT.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It's crazy, it's wild right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So, chat GPT, you can go there and you can kind of
type in a prompt.
They have a website or an app.
You can type in a prompt andjust say, hey, chat GPT, write
me a song, write me a new songfrom Freddie Mercury, and they
can pull things he said ininterviews, they can pull past
things that are kind of hisstyle and put something together
and it's like what All?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
right.
So what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So today, on the topic of identity and real
versus fake sort of things, wewanted to come up with a game
where we are competing againstchat GPT, and so we're gonna do
this in two ways.
We're gonna do it first usversus chat GPT, and then chat
GPT versus us.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's so hard to say it Chat, gpt.
Yeah, what's the story in?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
the 1800s with, like John Henry versus the railroad
spike machine.
Yeah, this is that this is thatmoment man versus machine.
It's 2023.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So, what I typed into the prompt is this I want you
chat GPT to try to guess what weare thinking of in only 10
questions with just yes or noanswers.
So, what we're gonna do iswe're gonna think of something
and in a person, place, thing,inanimate object, whatever, and
then we are gonna give chat GPT10 opportunities to guess that
with just yes or no and see ifit can come up with what we are
(27:38):
thinking of.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Okay, I have one.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Just, I have not, I'm not gonna say it out loud
because it might be listening.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But I'll make a sound effect and a motion for our
people on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, Blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah,
blah.
Okay, all right.
All right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That was clear to me Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I had something, but it's not as cool as that, so
we're gonna go with that.
All right.
So let's see Game on.
It might be listening, it mightbe listening.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean the bots are listening you are so loud, All
right, here we go.
Microphone boom.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So it says this I'll do my best to try to guess what
you're thinking of.
Please go ahead and think of anobject, concept or person and
I'll start asking questions.
Okay, done.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right here we go Boom.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is it a living thing, yes, or?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
no, no.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Nope, all right, that was question one.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
How many did we?
Give it a limit 10.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
10, okay.
Is it something you can hold inyour hand, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yes.
That's two Make sure you let'skeep track and also tell it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That was question two yes Because last time what we
need to tell the bot how to playthe game.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well, last time they went a little over they cheated.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Is it related to technology, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, all right, that's question three.
They're gonna get it.
Can you eat or drink it?
No, no, that's question four.
That's question four we areflying through here.
Is it something commonly foundindoors?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's an odd, it's not common.
I mean it's always foundindoors, but it's not like a
common item.
I would say no.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Like you don't.
The masses don't own that intheir home.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But is it as opposed to commonly found outdoors?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What?
Can you read it again?
Is it something commonly foundindoors?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know if I understand.
Is it saying yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Is it saying it's not object Could be taking multiple
ways Not just say it could beboth.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That's not yesterday's answer.
You might throw the bot off.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't know Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Just say no, no, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, I don't know.
No, is it associated with aspecific season, like a holiday?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, no, unless you're in the Salvation Army?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
True?
Is it man-made?
Yes, so what is this?
How many questions is?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
this oh, I thought you were keeping track.
We were, but then we got intoSeven.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Is it a form of entertainment?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yes, yeah, I'd say yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Is it something you can buy in a store?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I feel like it's getting farther away.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, it's not going to get it.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Based on your answers , oh, I'm going to guess that
you're thinking of a board game.
Wow, sorry, chat GPT, you stink.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Sorry that was so loud.
I can't wait to hear that onthe podcast.
It's kind of like you need tolike put a disclaimer in Like
seconds before.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Turn the volume down.
I just got so excited.
I'm sorry, you were reallyexcited.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, now let's do the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wait, I'm shocked.
Hold on.
I think we really think wethrew it off with not giving
clarity to that one answer.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That one answer went from a possible trombone to a
board game.
I think not.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All right, I'm just going to say no.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think it was just a good.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's not a board game .
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My guess was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Can you please reveal what you're thinking of?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Say trombone, and then it'll tell us why we
answered.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Trombone.
Watch it's going to be like yousaid.
It's not.
Thank you for sharing whatyou're thinking of.
A trombone is a musicalinstrument and it's a unique
choice.
If you have any more questionsor if you'd like to play another
game, feel free to let me know.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Tell chat GPT that they're not a very good podcast
guest.
Tell us that.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Say You're live on a podcast and you're not great,
I'm very disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Listenership is plummeting.
Thanks, chat GPT.
Wow, you're a fast typer.
Did you feel pressure typinglive?
He's like now I do Tell us whatit's like.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I said, you are live on a podcast and you're not
doing great, but I appreciateyour feedback.
If there's anything specificyou want to discuss, or if you
have any questions or topicsyou'd like me to explore during
this podcast, please let me knowand I'll do my best to provide
valuable information.
To engage the conversation,let's play one more, all right?
So do we want to reverse thator do we want to give it another
?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
chance.
No, let's give it one morechance.
The reader you think ofsomething.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay, I don't know how to act.
Mine out, though.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Pressure.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't know how to act it out.
Okay, nate, do what you werethinking of before.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Just tell me what it is and if it is listening and it
gets it.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No we'll know.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
The word is candy corn.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The best word.
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I want to play a game where you only have 10 yes or
no questions to guess what I'mthinking of.
Okay, got it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Okay, we have our thing.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
We have it, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man, is it a living thing?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Nope, is it something you can hold in your hand?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, that's two.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's two Is it commonly found indoors?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yes, yes, three.
We'll be confident in thatanswer this time.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is it a piece of furniture?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Four Is it an electronic device?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No Five.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Is it used for entertainment or leisure?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
No no.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Six.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It's not getting.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Made of metal or plastic?
No, Seven.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It's really out of the ballpark here.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I think it's good.
Is it related to cooking orfood preparation?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Let's just say yes, yes, Eight.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is it a kitchen utensil?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No Nine.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's not going to get in.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Is it a type of food?
Yes, ten.
Is it a spice or seasoning?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
They're just going to keep going.
They're just going to keepgoing, all right, no.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Just keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Let's see, let's see.
I'm sorry, I couldn't guesscorrectly.
Ten questions, can you please?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
reveal what you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, I feel bad for poor chat GPT, let's just say
let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's crazy because in our prep meeting we did like
this twice and it got it in likesix.
Yeah, is it a type of fruit?
No, nope, that's 12.
I apologize.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Can you please tell me?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's like stop.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Just tell me it's nervous.
That's on the podcast.
All right, I'll let it know.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'll let it know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'll let it know it's candy corn.
Wow, I'm a little disappointed.
I know man.
We set that one up for.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Thank you for letting me know.
Candy corn is a classicHalloween candy.
That's true.
We were thinking it's true,it's true, it's a classic.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Halloween candy.
It's true, it's a classicHalloween candy.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's true.
It's true, have you?
I've read some articles andthese are like way out there,
but like people are starting tocreate like AI, like boyfriends
and girlfriends yes, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Did you see the?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like they're paying like subscription apps to create
like someone who will talk tothem, who will like it's.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It's really sad yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, we fooled it.
We fooled chat GPT guys.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We did it we did it on the resume.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We I don't feel good about it.
Wow, we're getting choked up.
He is literally choked up, man,yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I expected more out of chat GPT.
Yeah, next time.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well, we'll just, you know, let's, let's just go talk
about they haven't.
They haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
They haven't perfected it yet.
Let's talk about Jesus.
Let's go talk about Jesus.
How's that Jesus?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay, so question for you both Do you know the origin
of your names?
Do you know, like, why you werenamed Matt or why you were
named Nathaniel?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I know it means gift from God, but I don't know like.
I think that's why my parentspicked it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Aw, that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I don't know why my parents picked it, but I
remember as a kid being upsetwhen I read in the Bible that
there was an Nathaniel and hisname was spelled different than
mine.
Oh, I was like, so you what?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I wasn't good enough to get the biblical spelling.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So anyways.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Before I jump in, I just want to read the scripture
to you from the first John, 3,1-3.
It says see what great love theFather has lavished on us, that
we should be called children ofGod, and this is what we are.
The reason that the world doesnot know us is that it did not
know him.
Dear friends, now we arechildren of God and what we will
be has not yet been made known.
But we know that when Christappears, we shall be like him,
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for we shall see him as he is,and all who have this hope in
him purify themselves just as heis pure.
So our son, jackson, came home.
He's in preschool.
He came home a couple of weeksago with this little homework
and what's his like firsthomework.
But anyway, he came home withhomework and I already had I was
like we can't get this done buta piece of paper and it was
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what's your name?
Tell us your name, where didyour name come from?
And it's, you know, beginningof the school year, and so
they're learning who's in theirclass and whatnot.
And so when we were pregnantwith Jackson, we could not
decide on a name and so we justcalled him baby H for the
longest time because we wereback and forth and back and
forth.
Baby H, Baby H, that was what hewas.
(36:39):
My sister was so angry and allour friends thought we were like
holding the name.
We didn't want to tell anyone.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I was like we just don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
So we were like, okay , maybe like when we see him
we'll know, we'll know.
So anyone that kind of knowssome of the background to our
story knows that Jackson was agift to us.
Jackson has been, you know, amiracle child and he has been
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everything to us.
But we named him JacksonCourage, because Jackson not
only is in the family, nate'sgrandfather's, middle name was
Jackson, but it also means Godhas been gracious, which really
spoke to us during that time.
And then his middle name isCourage, which was actually my
grandmother's maiden name, RuthCourage.
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And so Jackson Courage is hisname, but-.
And all the boys in your family, and my dad is Peter Courage,
my brother is Peter Courage andnow Jude and August are both
Courage, so they're all theCourage boys.
So it was important, and we putso much pressure on ourselves,
to name Jackson, something thatmeant something.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Can I happen real quick?
Yeah, so when Caleb was born,we were between Caleb and Carter
.
Those were the two names and wewere the same way.
We were like we just need tomeet him.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yes, and then we'll know.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
So he was born, and no, right before he was born,
the doctor was just like thisbaby's gotta come out, like
let's call his name, like what'shis name.
And we were just like, well,we're between Caleb and Carter.
And the doctor was like, well,what are those names mean?
So we were like Caleb is likewith a brave heart.
And then we were like Cartermeans man who pushes cart and
(38:24):
the doctor was like this baby'sname is Caleb.
Thank you, doctor.
Hopefully no one named Carterout there as offended.
We love you, carter.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, when I was growing up, I remember coming
home from school with a verysimilar project and assignment
and I wrote this whole paragraphon what I thought my name
represented.
Where I got my name, I thoughtthat I was named after my
grandma.
Her name is Loretta.
And in our family we haveLoretta.
My mom is Lorenda, sister'sLarissa, and I'm Larita, and so
(38:57):
I was like, oh, I'm clearly,it's just like you know a sub
variation of Loretta.
So my whole life people had andthey've always mistaken my name
for Loretta.
I've been called Lorettainstead of Loretta.
How many times I was likethat's naturally what my name is
.
I wrote this whole assignmentabout being named after my
grandmother and no one in myfamily corrected me, so this was
(39:20):
my thought.
It wasn't until a couple ofyears ago.
We were probably sitting at thedinner table or something and
conversation comes up and Ibrought up being named after
grandma.
I was probably trying to rub itin my sister's face, like well,
I'm named after grandma, and Iwas immediately stopped and my
mom was like, oh, that's notwhere your name came from.
And I was like, oh, by the way.
(39:41):
I was like, oh well, what do wemean by this?
Turns out my dad dated someonewho had a name that my mom liked
I'm not going to put it onblast, but had a name that my
mom liked.
My mom changed that name andcame up with Loretta.
So in essence, like the originof my name was actually one of
(40:03):
my dad's ex-girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That is amazing.
And your mom's cool with that.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Oh, she loved the name and she was like I'm just
changing this and my mom kind ofcreated my name.
But it was a very humblingexperience to go from bragging
about oh, I'm named aftergrandma to like no, you're not
named after the matriarch of ourfamily, so it was an
(40:27):
interesting experience.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
All that to say.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
That's awesome.
Like how we get our names isimportant.
And names are important.
They give us identity, theydenote purpose.
Even during, like, stafforientation at camp, we stress
the importance to our counselorsabout learning their campers'
names call them by their names.
Like it gives us a sense ofpride and purpose when we're
called by our names, there's asense of worth that comes along
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with it, knowing that you areknown and that you're important.
Well, in the scripture that Iread earlier, there's a few
small truths that we can easilygloss over, but I just want to
highlight them.
The author writes see whatgreat love the Father has
lavished on us that we should becalled children of God.
You see, it's out of his lovefor us that we've been given a
new name.
We've been given a new identity.
(41:11):
We've been called children ofGod.
You see, it's grace that tellsus that we're undeserving of
this name.
But it's also the same namethat shows us the true depth of
his love, and it's the truedepth of that love that's the
motivating factor behind allthat he does for us that we're
undeserving of.
He has rescued us, he'ssacrificed for us, he's forgiven
(41:32):
us and even there, which wedon't deserve it, could have
been left there, it could havenot gone any further because we
didn't even deserve that, letalone anything more.
But he shows us that deeperlove by taking us into his
family and calling us childrenof God.
There is nothing within us orin the nature of the world that
requires God to go beyond thatforgiving, redeeming, rescuing,
(41:53):
healing love that presses allthe way in to make us a child of
God.
And then it goes on to say andthat is what we are, the reason
the world does not know us isthat it did not know him.
And I think that when I wasreading this through I kind of
camped out on that and that wasa challenging piece, right.
Because the fact is God is forus, he's for you and his love
(42:17):
for all of us is so extravagantand if that's true, we often can
wrestle with.
If his love is so real and hislove is so deep, how is there so
much evil and hatred?
And I mean thinking just sorecently to the shootings in
Lewiston and kind of how closeto home that hit.
(42:40):
But we can question it.
Why is there so much negativeand evil and bad things around
us?
But if we take a look inwardly.
Are we really making that loveknown to those around us?
You know, it's like what am Idoing to change that?
What am I doing to be that loveincarnate to those around me?
(43:05):
Am I just seeing it?
Am I seeing all those thingsaround me, or am I actively
trying to make that love knownand change the way that the
world is?
It's such a bitter truth toswallow, but the reason that the
world does not know that we areloved by the God of creation is
because they do not know him.
And so are we, his church, webelievers, making it easier or
(43:27):
harder for the world to know thelove of Jesus.
How does the love of God,knowing that he has called you
his child, how does that affectyou personally?
How does it change your outlookon yourself?
How does it change your outlookon others?
I say this a lot, especiallyduring camp, but maybe it needs
a repeat, so if you've heard it,I apologize, but I'm a very
(43:49):
visual person and so when I'msinging a song, I can often
visualize the picture that'sbeing painted by the lyrics.
I remember back in the day whenI played with the Greater New
York Youth Band as a teenager.
If there was a movement orthere a portion of a piece that
I knew the lyrics thatcorresponded with that tune.
I would often write the lyricsin the margins because to me, if
(44:13):
I was reading it as I wasplaying and I reminded as I went
into it, it was like man, I'mable to send these words out
through my instrument, just thewords.
I'm very visual.
I wanna see it, I wanna feel it.
But today, this passage, thistruth, is something that Christ
offers to us, right?
He's offering us this chance tobe known and to be received as
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his child.
There's nothing that we can doto earn his love, there's
nothing we can do to deservebeing called a child of God.
But what we do to make itharder to accept is we hold on
to our own stuff, right?
So this is my visual when theLord is offering me things and
he's offering me grace and he'soffering me peace in difficult
(45:02):
situations, I picture all thestuff I'm holding on to and I
can't receive anything he'sgiven to me because I'm holding
on to my own stuff, my owntruths, the things that I've
decided are truth, my ownmistakes, my own flaws, my own
belief that I'll never bedeserving enough.
I hold on to it so tightly thatI cannot receive that which he
is so longing to give me.
(45:23):
We all hold on so tightly to allthat stuff that there isn't
room to be able to claim whatGod wants for us and what he
wants to give us.
So I visualize trying to put itdown, trying to lay down this
stuff, empty my arms of all thefalsehoods that have brought me
fleeting comforts or all thethings that I've held on to for
so long, to lay it down and tocreate space to be able to
(45:44):
accept that God wants to give tome.
So to those listening to usaround this table, to myself,
I'm here this louder today, overwhatever you're facing,
whatever you're going through,that you are loved, you are
valued and that you are a childof God.
That the God of Yahweh, the Godof I am, whispers that over you
(46:06):
today, that His presence iswith you, that His power
sustains you and His breathgives you life.
And it's God that says I am andthat's it he is.
I'm not sure what God has beenwhispering over you recently,
but what can you start layingdown?
To pick up what we've held,what can we lay down that we've
(46:29):
held on to you for so long andstart leaning into what God has
for us.
And today he's telling you thathe loves you and that you are
His child.
So just to try and claim thattoday, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
As you were talking about names and the power of
names, I was thinking of Satan.
Like Satan's name literallymeans accuser, and how often we
allow the power of hisaccusations to become the truth
to us that we are broken, thatwe're failures, that we're
sinners, that we're condemned,that we're not worthy not good
(47:06):
enough?
And how those names?
If we give those names power, Ican really paralyze us and hold
us hostage.
And yet, when you're talkingabout God, you know, speaking
his love over us.
I get this visualization of likeToy Story with like God you
know, andy writing his name onWoody's boot.
(47:28):
And like God, imprinting his,stamping, his name on us, that
we belong to him and that, nomatter what, even if we're lost
and far off, we know we belongto him and that we can come back
safely home to him.
And just beautiful imagery ofthe power of God's intentional
love over us yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I'm very visual as well, so I like that the way you
explain that where you're, justyou're holding onto so many
things, it's weighing you down.
And then you just saidsometimes that is paralyzes,
isn't the?
It's not the right, it's notquite the word I'm thinking, but
it you're moved to inaction.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, you're frozen.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Maybe that's the word I'm looking for You're frozen,
you're stuck, you can't moveforward, you can't do anything
because you're so weighed downby everything that you're
carrying, and a lot of those arefalsehoods and stuff that don't
hold any power of truth.
Right, but the other side ofthat visual is you tend to
forget that, as you're walkingwith all of these things that
are weighing you down, jesus isright there beside you saying
(48:33):
like hey, I can hand it over, Ican take this, I'll take it all
actually.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Let me make this easier for you.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, but no I.
It's powerful imagery.
I'm curious what band piece youwere playing, but it was the
one I can think of.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You're a second cornet too, right?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, oh, I held that down At the end of every big
piece that's like the gloriousmoment for the second cornet.
It's because everyone's likethe second cornet's got the
melody.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Blast it out.
And that's, I think.
That's why I would write it,because I'd be like I'm, I would
play it more powerfully.
Oh my gosh, I would tickle mythroat, oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
No, you're, you're, you're dead.
Legendary second cornet for fordecades.
It's the Vaughn seat and thestaff band.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
I always told Gordon, like don't, don't move me, I
don't want to go, don't move meup the road.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
This is my seat, second cornet's, where it's at
Yep.
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So it was power of your love.
That's the one that I alwaysthink of.
There's that one I can'tremember the title, but the the
tune was power of your love, andI wrote it in the.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Lord, I come to you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Falling from the grave that I found, whatever it
was.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Thank you.
Thank you, matt, whatever itwas.
Second, cornet's had a littleblast that couple years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
It was really interesting.
I think it's a couple of yearsago at Starlake or maybe a
different territorial event.
Unbound kind of did like awhole nineties medley like an
entire night of all the worshipsongs from the nineties where it
was really interesting, cause Ithink people of our generation
that grew up on those songs likeback then like songs weren't
churned out as quickly as theyare now, so you sang those songs
(50:01):
to death over and over.
But I found that when Unboundbrought them back.
Like I hadn't sung a lot ofthese songs in years, I didn't
need the words on the screen.
I knew every single lyric, andwe're talking like three verses
deep Like I.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
just you just knew them.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
They're imprinted on your heart.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But thank you for those thoughts, loretta.
I think that's stuff that wecan all take with us this week.
Nate, do you mind closingwrapping that with a prayer?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, let's pray, god , we are so grateful that you
call us yours and that, lord,even in spite of ourselves and
our brokenness, god, you seevalue, you see purpose, lord,
and through it all, you love uscompletely.
God, I thank you for the wordthat was brought forth today,
lord, I thank you that we, forthose of us who do know you and
(50:48):
have received you, god, you'vegiven us the right to be called
children of God and so, lord,the urgency and the burden
really, god, on our hearts tolive out that experience so that
others can also see and know,lord, that you desire to call
them your children as well, god,we all have people in our lives
, god, who are far from you,lord.
(51:09):
We all have people that we canthink of even in this moment,
and sometimes maybe evenourselves, god, who are living
our days stuck or held hostageor paralyzed by fear and regret.
But, god, I pray, lord, thatyou would continue to just allow
your light to break through.
Lord, make us ambassadors andrepresentatives of you in this
(51:32):
world that is so dark in so manyways.
And, god, may just theoverwhelming flood of your love
to become the most real andpowerful thing that can drive
out darkness.
We pray this in your name, amen.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Amen, all right guys.
Well, we're pretty close to awrap on episode 12 of season two
, or I didn't say the rightepisode, 12 overall.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yes, episode three of season two.
Technically, how do you?
How should we number that?
Because I could change themonline.
Should I keep?
Should I say this is episode 12or should I say season two,
episode three?
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I kind of like the two 2.3.
I do too.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't know why I just kept.
I do Then let's do it.
Yeah, okay, I'll change it up2.3.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
So forget everything you heard in the beginning of
this episode, episode three ofseason two, the plug-in podcast.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
I heard that I feel like we went crazy with the mics
today.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
We did A lot of stuff going on.
I'm sorry it's been a while.
Nate, that was my favorite,though I had to put chat GPT in
its place, because I feel likeyou told that.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
You showed that.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
I feel like we're getting very close to the day
when it will be telling us whatto do.
Yeah Well, we got some stuffcoming up.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I know you guys have the officers retreats coming up
and sounds.
Christmas is at the beginningof December.
We've got one more youth artsministry in November.
Yep, thanksgiving's coming up.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
I think we should all be thinking.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
We should get our lists together.
We're going to have to have ourfavorite Thanksgiving things
and put that on socials.
Do it right now?
No, I'm just kidding.
I mean we probably could in theoff time, right.
But we'll call that a wrap forthis episode of the plug-in
podcast and that's all I got.
Yeah, we'll see you next time.
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