Episode 19 - 215 Days Later...

What do the Boston Celtics' 18th Championship, Megan Fox's Razzie Award, the Paris Olympics and even the shocking news of OJ Simpson's passing all have in common? All of these things have happened since our last episode of the Plugged in Podcast way back in February!

A lot has happened in the past 215 days, but we're back... pinky promise! Tune in to hear all about Matt and Heather's incredible vacation to the Swiss Alps and Paris, highlights from the 100th summer of Camp Wonderland, (where 775 life-changing commitments were made for Christ!), and the emotional rollercoaster that is life as parents of a Kindergartner.

Join us as we look ahead to some exciting upcoming events here in The Salvation Army Massachusetts Division, such as the relaunch of our monthly Youth Arts Ministry and Friday Night Fellowship. We also spend time discussing Halloween costume ideas, contemplating  our favorite Gameday rituals, and Matt lets us in on something (or someone) that he considers to be a bit "overrated." 

In our Scripture segment, we wrestle with the challenge of "being present" in a world of constant activity, how to experience real peace in the face of worry and fear, and what it means to "leave our nets" to follow Christ with a renewed sense of trust and obedience. Come along for the ride as we laugh our way through these topics and so much more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:11):
here we are once again man, it's been a long time
welcome back on this littlecircle table.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh, man, we weren't even in 2024, the last wait, no,
we were.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oh, we were this is episode number 19 of the Plugged
In Podcast.
We stopped saying seasons along time ago.
I think, technically, maybe youcould call this season three,
season three, maybe, maybe, butwe dropped that a long time ago.
This is episode number 19.
Nice, and to all of ourlisteners.
Well, I don't know, I was aboutto apologize, but should we

(00:44):
apologize?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
No apologies needed.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think those that listen get it.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
But now I think, now that you know it's fall, people
are asking and have asked.
I think Nate said people areasking when the next episode is
like oh, people want to hear us.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
So our last episode, oh gosh, february, oh no, oh no,
23, 2024.
Wow, it has been.
Are you serious?
It has been 215 days.
It has been my eyes switching5,160 hours.
Oh jeez, thank you.
And it has been 309,600 minutessince our last show dropped,

(01:26):
february.
Yeah, february 23rd was ourlast episode.
It was episode 18, and I wentback just for research sake.
It was my terrible weekend inconnecticut where mckenzie threw
up all over the breakfastbuffet.
Like yeah, this was a long timeago that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I for sure thought it was like march.
I know april gets cuckoo, but Ithought at least yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So in that time, look at my calendar.
In that time, here are some.
Here are some things.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh no, that have happened since our last show
around the world some of theseare good, some of these are not
good, but this has all happenedSince our last show the Boston
Celtics won an NBA championship.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
That's true, we were not there to talk about it.
Where's?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
the.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh, the applause.
There it is.
They're going crazy, they'regoing crazy.
Okay, Megan Fox actress won aRazzie for Worst Actress Award.
Really.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really, Isn't that surprising.
I was like where are we going?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I hadn't heard much from Megan Fox since
Transformers, but I didn't thinkshe was the worst.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't think she's the worst.
She's not great Not my favoriteactress but not the worst.
Oj Simpson died.
Yeah, he did Controversial.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I feel like I'm hearing some of this for the
first time.
It's all new.
It's because we were on theshow.
It's all news.
That's right.
Oj died.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
OJ Simpson died.
Okay, the door from the movieTitanic sold at auction for
$718,000.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Nice, that door could have fit two people, okay, so
that's the question.
That's the question more thantwo people for double that.
If we approved, it could be fortwo people didn't they do that
on like a myth busters?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
well, I'm sure they did yeah, but what was the
conclusion?
Could jack have fit?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
yes, he could have fit I think they, I think he
could fit, I remember they likethey cut the door out.
They had it like to shape thethe same weight other things
that happened in our time.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Uh, lebron james set the all-time nba scoring record.
Wow, for those of us that aremichael jordan fans, it wasn't
the you know, it's a longevityrecord yeah yeah, um the paris
olympics, the entire parisolympics came and went oh, now
you guys were at camp.
Be honest, did you watch muchOlympics?

(03:47):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Some of it lined up over our long break.
So when we were up in OldOrchard, when we had the TV on,
we had the Olympics on.
I just love watching it.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
The one thing we did watch was Katie Ledecky, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh shoot.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Basically lapping the competition.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, yeah, that was insane.
It looked like she was swimmingin the pool alone.
What's the long?
Is it 1,500 meters?
What's the longest?
One Something like that yeah,the one where she was like
literally in the picture.
She's going the other way.
Yes, amazing.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Other highlights.
So we loved Watch Swimming aswell.
Yeah, simone Biles.
Kind of had her return todominance.
But maybe I found the US men'sgymnastic team to be so
captivating.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Such an underdog that just rose to the top Two from
Massachusetts that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm just going to call him Stephen Pommel Horse
guy, because everyone knows whowe're talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't know if you saw that live.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
But, he took off his Clark Kent glasses.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
He's so cute.
He got on the pommel horse andlike crazy.
Blew it away.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Also, who was the other?
Is it Fred Richard FromStoughton?
Freddie Flips yeah, what apersonality too.
I know he's going to be fun towatch.
Going forward they had a lot ofpersonalities.
I'm trying to think the StephCurry shot Steph Curry shot that
was amazing.
Was that in the Olympics?
Yes, it was against France,right?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yes, yes, yeah, that was incredible.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, the US men's basketball team won another gold
.
Yep, the US men took I forgetwho won it, but the sprinter the
100 meters.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
One gold again.
Oh yep, I can't think of a name.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Overall, I found it very entertaining.
I don't know if you watched theopening night.
I kind of always like to seethat because there's always like
an artistic twist on it.
You had Lady Gaga was singing,they did it on the river, and
there's just tons of who wasplaying the piano that was on
fire, like in the river, I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Anyways, it was, uh you have to go find the youtube.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
We did not see the opening no, we did like we heard
about it, but I did not watchit the whole point is that the
whole world passed us by whilewe were not recording the
plug-in podcast yeah, you madethe point.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You made that point a couple other things.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Uh, this is huge news .
Oprah winfrey left weightwatchers.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I don't know if you heard about that, yeah, she's
done and then maybe this isgreat, she just likes carbs, now
again.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, weight Watchers , like I was reading an article
that they you know, foreverthey've been about points and
calories, and like you can eatthese foods and that and blah
blah.
And with the rise of Ozempicand what's the other one?
Wegovi, wegovi, yeah, that'sright With the rise of that, I
feel like Weight Watchersstarted to shift their entire
business model Interesting Tomove towards medication.

(06:26):
But anyways, I don't know.
I just got this headline off ofthe internet and so Oprah
Winfrey left Weight Watchers 30second plug in there my first
Weight Watchers ever.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
When I went with my dad and I was like a teenager, I
accidentally wore a HersheyPennsylvania shirt.
Yes, my dad, yep.
So there's that.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Chocolate Came in this shirt with the chocolate
candy bar in it.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I was mortified, but every time I think of Weight
Watchers.
Okay, keep going.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, my last one is just so.
We don't endorse either side ofthe political aisle here.
But huge news.
So Joe Biden and PresidentTrump had a debate that went so
poorly for President Biden that,even though he was defiant
about it, about three weekslater he dropped out of the

(07:11):
presidential race.
And now Vice President KamalaHarris is the nominee for the.
Democrats.
So what a wild ride that's been.
And we're not even to theelection yet.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
We're not even there.
We still got like a month and ahalf two months.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah.
So the point is, it's been along time, it's been a long time
.
Since we've recorded thePlugged In Podcast.
But Point made Understood, it'sgood to be back.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If you've stayed this far into episode 19,.
My name is Matt.
I am the music director here inthe Massachusetts division and
I am joined by my co-hosts.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I'm Loretta, captain Loretta and the divisional
candidates secretary and youthsecretary.
It's a really long title.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Who are you?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
And my husband.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hi, I'm Nate and I'm part of the team with Loretta
here in the youth department.
Divisional youth secretaryBasically just means that we
spend our summers at camp.
We pour into the lives of youngpeople and young adults and see
what God is doing across thegreat Massachusetts division
amongst the young people.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's right.
So the Plugged In podcast, itcan be all over the place, but
essentially we speak toSalvation Army events and
gatherings and happenings herein the Massachusetts division.
And even if you're not in theSalvation Army Massachusetts
division, hopefully you canspend some time with us, share a
laugh or two, and usually everyepisode we have some sort of

(08:34):
devotional or Bible study typeof thought.
So if you're here for the ride,welcome to the Plugged In
Podcast.
Here we go, Our next segmenttoday three ups, three downs.
So to recap kind of ourpersonal time, since, uh, since
we've recorded the podcast whenyou guys want to go first, we've
got some ups and downs.
I have a lot of ups.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's great, is that okay?
Yeah, I have five.
Wow, okay, let's hear it.
So I think the the one that Ihave to touch on first is coming
out of the summer.
Um, summer is a great time herein the Massachusetts division
at the happy summer place, campwonderland.
Yeah, we just want to giveglory to God for the 775 new
commitments and rededicationsthat took place at camp this

(09:15):
summer, just continually in aweof the ministry.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah 775.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I have this new effects board and it's just you
just wait.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
You have no idea what effects are coming your way.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Good joke.
That's about the extent of itSorry.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
But it's just it's.
I'm continually in awe of theministry of camp.
I know the impact that it'smade in my life and the life of
so many others, not just whohave been campers but staff, and
so just grateful for theopportunity to be a part of that
ministry team and provide asafe haven for people to really
come and encounter God.
So that was great.
So that was this summer, Alsomilestone in our family.

(09:55):
Our son, Jackson, startedkindergarten.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
He did.
I'll take that off of my uphere he did.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
He started kindergarten, which is wild, but
he's doing great.
His teacher's phenomenal todayis the scholastic book fair at
his school.
Do you remember the days?
Of so quick story aboutscholastic book fair here we go
that was one of my favorite likehighlights as a child.
But I wasn't the kid who wouldgo and buy the books.
I'd go and buy the likeridiculous trinkets that you

(10:23):
could buy.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So I saw this like tarantulanecklace in in jackson's book
that he brought home the otherday and I said I'd totally buy
the tarantula necklace and andwear that.
But I I bought this spy pen onetime and it wrote in invisible
ink and had this little light onthe other end so you could read
it now.
You can just buy that on amazonI would pass secret messages to
kids in my second grade class.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Wow, I remember posters being a big deal,
whether it was sports heroes oryour favorite band.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
They always had that bin of posters that you could
buy.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
We were in that era of you had a poster of either
Michael Jordan, or NSYNC orBackstreet Boys.
Those were the posters thatwere on people's walls.
Great Good times, man.
What's that like for as mean?
That's what, as parents, youknow him going to kindergarten.
Oh, a wreck, A wreck.
I bet A wreck yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just.
We went to brunch together onhis first day of school and
we're sitting at the like thetable, we're sitting at the
restaurant every couple ofseconds.
I was just like sobbing becauseI kept thinking about it and
I'm like is he making friends?
Like is he sitting by himselfCause he's so quiet in new
situations, and so I'm just likeyou know, like total mom guilt.
Then he said to me, probablylike the second or third day of

(11:34):
school, cause every morning he'slike I don't want to go to
school.
And I'm like oh, too early forthis Second, one of the first
few days of school.
I said why are you having sucha hard time?
I said can you you have?
There's people there,everyone's like figuring it out
like you can do hard things.
And he goes.
I don't like watching you walkaway from me oh my goodness, and

(11:55):
I just like, yeah, curled intomyself and I just wanted to like
melt and I was like how can youarticulate that?
So now we have to like processthat.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
My mom has a famous story to her or to our family.
But like the first day that shewalked me to kindergarten, we
got to the door and I looked ather and said, mom, after today
you don't have to walk me toschool anymore.
And she was just like Matthew,why?
And I said to her well, mom,one day I'm going to say bye,
mom, I'm getting married.
So, and like she, she, like shedisintegrated you know, she

(12:28):
like melted in the moment, butit's amazing.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, anyways, nate, sorry to hijack your ups, but
that's good, that's good.
Um, so my other two, uh, achick-fil-a is opening up in
your camp, that is, that's bigin my book that's that's opening
up very soon, we drive past it.
I was going to say, and by campyou mean by your house.
I mean, yeah, like eightminutes away, so we drive past
it and I check out the progressthat's happening.

(12:53):
I get very excited.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Talk to the foreman.
How much longer, sir?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Has that paint going?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
good.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Drive through ready.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Oh, and then yesterday was, uh, Loretta and
my eight year weddinganniversary.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I had to put that on the list, you know because my
life would not be the samewithout you.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
There you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
In a positive way.
Positive If it wasn't on yourlist, it was going to be.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was going tobe on somebody's list.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It would have been talked about later.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Oh sorry, I have one more my last high or up Is this
the Steelers are 3-0.
They lead the division andtheir defense looks Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Enough of your ups, did you have a down?
No downs.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Uh, we don't have, we don't have to end with no, I
don't want to hijack all thistime.
You guys go All right?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, he took several of my ups.
Um, one of my ups was theFacebook picture for your
birthday.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh, you want to explain this or?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
so, Um with last year we, our families, went on a
family vacation.
Took a group picture.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
And um then in the winter, we have our annual
patriot party, and so matt,sneaky matt, posted a picture of
me and nate and jackson, uh,standing in front of the field
at gillette and was like oh,this underprivileged family like
I have no, no, no, no, hold on,I didn't use the word no, no, I
said it was like a lovelycouple who were like avid

(14:17):
patriots.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Fans posed in front of the field and they were so
happy to share that moment withtheir son.
Like gosh, I'm like I didn'tknow about you, but I did not
say underprivileged.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's the first word that I thought of, but it was
like I had the opportunity andprivilege, so I was like, okay,
game on.
And so I think I probably saidto you, on a podcast episode, I
will have revenge yeah, and solike the next month, like
perfect, that's what I wanted.
It was months it was months so,um, like the next month, I

(14:47):
photoshopped, uh, a jets logo onmatt's shirt from our family
vacation yeah, group photo andjust waited and I waited and I
waited, and I had it in mycamera roll until your birthday
and then.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I just posted it.
This was premeditated, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I posted it and just let it sit, and then.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So at that point the picture itself was like 13
months old.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I mean, it was like over a year.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
But then from the time that you had told me you
get revenge, you had waited likeseven months.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I was a long awaited.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And, in the grand scheme of things, like the logo
in the picture is so small.
Yeah, I mean I'm wearing like astar lake pullover, yeah, and
it's like it's just a chest logoand it's so small.
So I see this post on socialmedia from lorita's just like
hey, dear friend, like have agreat day like birthday friend
yeah, I was like, and so I like.
I thought I was like, oh,that's really nice, but then,
like, didn't think anything ofit.

(15:37):
I don't know why I came back toit later that day.
Someone probably commented Itold you, my kids have changed
so much.
Mackenzie was more or less aninfant when we went on that trip
Such a baby.
I was looking at the pictureand I zoomed in on their faces
because I wanted to see Caleband Jackson are making silly

(15:57):
faces.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Then I zoomed in and I'm going across the picture and
I was like what you were in theoffice too, and I kept saying
to like Nate, I'm like tell meif he reacts, cause like I'm
just waiting for the moment Iwas like no way I went in, I
like shaded it, I like went inso detailed and I was like I
don't want anyone to look atthis and think it's a photoshop
job oh no, the the effort wasphenomenal, but it was so subtle

(16:21):
.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was so subtle that it was not noticeable, which
made it even because I was like,oh, she like spent time on this
, like she worked at this andthen it just but then on your
birthday I'm like where is that?
Picture, because it was so deepin my photo uh role, so that
was a highlight thank you forincluding that on your ups, like
in the last six months ameaningful part of her life

(16:45):
right listen, I waited so longfor that oh man.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
um, I also had jackson starting kindergarten, I
also had all of Yep, and then Ialso had wait.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh, here comes a prop .
Okay, there it is.
I brought my hat, I'm not goingto.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But and then I also had, we went to.
We took Jackson to his firstbaseball game, nice At Citi
Field.
Mets versus the Red Sox.
Mets won.
It's just been, it's been, it'sbeen decent Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Mets won it's been decent You're rolling high.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I know you have no idea.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, you're riding the wave.
The thing that's incredibleabout a Mets and Red Sox game,
though, is that everyone cametogether to chant disparaging
things against the Yankees.
Yes, it was like in that momentpeople came together on a
united front and it was reallycool to see that.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
No, it's been crazy.
I mean to see that.
No, it was, it's been a crazy,I mean between youth councils
and wonderland 100.
We've had a lot of good events,yeah, but there's probably even
more in there since our lastrecord date was february.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, there's tons, you're talking star search and
yam overnighter and yeah, awhole bunch of stuff.
um, okay, I have some ups.
Was that your list?
That was it okay?
Uh, one thing on my list wasthe, the summer music activities
, music Conservatory and MusicCamp.
We had a record number ofstudents at Conservatory 30
students, everyone's playingbrass, everyone's singing.

(18:08):
It was a really good-feelingcommunity this summer.
Yeah, and we talked about thisin the past, but with the
addition of Chris as a full-timeemployee now, it was just like
the faculty gelled.
Everyone was kind of in theright place doing the right
thing.
Conservatory felt awesome.
Same thing with music camp.
It just felt like people wereslotted in the right roles and

(18:28):
it was just.
It felt like a really good week.
It's awesome.
Maybe the highlight not just ofmy, this might be the highlight
of my life, like I'm not surehow to describe this, but um, so
post.
Uh, after the music stuff overthe summer star Lake, um, after
family camp.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
So my yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So my wife and I celebrated our 10th anniversary
this year.
Congrats, applause meter.
Oh yeah, sorry.
Yeah, there we go, almost hitthe wrong one.
Oh yeah, she doesn't listen.
Let's be honest, she's notlistening to the podcast.

(19:14):
So we're celebrating our 10thanniversary and it was one of
those things.
Probably for the last four orfive years we've just kind of
been saving up a little bit at atime, not knowing what we're
going to do, but we're going tolook into something.
We knew that we could get somelike credit card airline
transfer miles, but it had to bea non-domestic flight.
So we were thinking, okay, wecan do this transfer, but
where's somewhere in Europe thatwe're interested in?
So first we were thinking,maybe, like we're both like huge

(19:35):
music nerds, so a place likeVienna?
Vienna and Prague and that kindof like area Budapest would be
like very interesting.
So a place like Vienna, viennaand Prague and that kind of like
area Budapest would be likevery interesting.
So we were looking at thatstuff.
And then we crossed over.
I was I've never been to Paris,heather had been, but I had
never been.
So I was looking online how canI?
Is there a train that goes fromlike Prague to Paris and what
does that look like?
And I came across these YouTubevideos that were like take this

(19:57):
scenic train that goes throughSwitzerland.
That's incredible.
And so I came across thesevideos and this is the theme of
my life.
But like 10,000 hours ofYouTube later I knew everything
about Switzerland and I knew thecities and I knew the trains
and I knew.
So we ended up spending ourvacation.

(20:17):
We went seven days inSwitzerland and three days in
Paris and it was just I don'treally have words for how I mean
borderline, life-changing.
I mean it was like so I can't,I'm, I have no words.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I have no words, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Every day in Switzerland was like a different
, a different hike, a differentmountain.
It was something totallydifferent than I think either
one of us have ever done on avacation.
That was another thing we weretalking.
We've taken vacations where yourelax on the beach, you do
nothing, you blah, blah, blah.
This one was like we're goingto Switzerland every single day.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
We wanted to make sure we were like seeing as much
as possible but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
But while it was like an itinerary and like seeing,
as much as possible there was no.
There's no people.
Yeah, like we were on theselike hikes and these mountains
where, like maybe once every 45minutes you passed like someone
else.
But it was like you and it'sstill peaceful.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, it was like yeah, the land structure.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's hard to describe the landscape how beautiful it
was.
It was just so.
I mean, it was like I don'tknow if that's the up of of my
summer or year or decade, orlike I'm serious, it was like
like literally one of thehighlights of my life.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's amazing.
Your photos were beautiful.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Thank you.
I have like 10 million more.
I just like.
Just slowly dropping I got to gothrough them.
I don't know if I want to postthem Like it's, just like so.
And then my last up was just my, my health.
In anticipation of this trip, Iknew how physical the trip was
going to be and I just like Ididn't want to go to Switzerland

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and then, like at night, becomplaining about like a sore
ankle or out of breath up themountain.
So I have literally like neverrun in my entire life Like I'm
serious, like so before thistrip, like I don't know if I had
.
I'm being honest to all thelisteners out there.
I don't know if I had ever runlike a mile in my life without
stopping, like I just didn'tknow if I'd ever done it in my
life.
And back in school, like whenyou did the pacer, I was always

(22:08):
like the worst kid.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Like I was the last one on that flip.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
No, like my my fitness, my anyways.
Long story short.
Um, really the the runup toswitzerland, like about two
months, really, the month ofjuly and august.
I just felt like I absolutelykilled.
It was getting in the gym five,six, seven days a week, started
running a mile and then twomiles and then I was getting in
three, four, five miles, like.

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So it just like felt I've neverreally yeah yeah.
So I like really felt proud ofthat and uh.
But then when we got toSwitzerland, um, I guess my
wife's not listening, I don'twant to say I don't want to say
I felt in better shape than her,but like I was ready to like,
yeah, scale the mountains.
I was ready to.
I was ready to conquer themountains.
I felt really good, that'sawesome.

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So it was just, it was reallyreally great, amazing.
So I don't think any of usshared any downs.
That's fine.
We can just call this segmentthree ups next time?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, let's call it three ups.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
But hopefully our listeners.
You can relate to some of theups that we've had in the past
six or seven months.
I'm sure you have ups of yourown.
We would love to hear from you.
So if you're on Instagram, ifyou're on YouTube, you're
watching this send us an email.
We'd love to hear what's goingon in your life.
We're going to take a shortbreak here on the Plugged In

(23:24):
Podcast and then, when we comeback, we have some upcoming
events that we want to talkabout.
Here in the Salvation ArmyMassachusetts Division, we have
a rapid fire round of questionsfor each of the hosts and then
we'll round out today with adevotional thought for you.
So thank you for being here.
The Plugged In Podcast, episode19.

(23:44):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Ready.
That's my nervousness.
I'm putting that in.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
We're back.
We're on it, started with theteeth.
Jenner Want to do that again.
We're back.
We're on it, started with theteeth.
Chatter Want to do that again.
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm nervous, I'm nervous.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Why.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
All right, welcome back to the Plugged In Podcast,
episode number 19.
We were just chatting aboutnate and his teeth chatter that
one right into the mic allmorning.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Why are you nervous?
I don't know, man.
It's been a long time, it'sbeen a long time.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
How many days, yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
215, 215 days.
Oh good, you remembered no Imeant that it was like it was an
obscure number.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, no, I know my brain is filled with obscure
facts that don't matter in life.
I got you True.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, so we're going to go.
We're going to tell you aboutsome upcoming events here in the
Salvation Army Massachusettsdivision.
Maybe you're a part of them,maybe you're on the way to them
right now, as you are listeningto this in your car, or however
you listen to this.
September 28th is this Saturday.
We're recording a few daysbefore.
I'm not going to tell thelisteners that this is going to

(25:04):
come out before the 28th.
Let's not tie ourselves downhere, because I feel like when
we tie ourselves down, like oh,we're going to record every week
or every other week, 215 dayspasses.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, that's.
True, exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Anyways, Youth Arts Ministry, YAM, starts up on
September 28th and it's anexciting new season.
There are new things to theschedule, there's different
classes.
This year the timings haveswitched around a little bit.
There is a whole lot cookingfor Youth Arts Ministry.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
There are two tracks that run, yeah so exciting.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Ages 9 to 12 is one track and then a teenage track,
13 plus.
Right now there's about 70students registered.
That's awesome, and, I believe,a little bit north of 30 adults
Incredible, that's awesome.
So that ratio of instructors tostudents is a solid one and I'm
just excited for a really,really great season.
It's good.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's going to be good .
I'm really excited about myclass this year too.
I have some fun ideas, so it'salways exciting.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
This is in our show notes, but this year we're doing
something a little differentfor devotions.
Yeah, we are using ourdevotional segment at YAM to aid
in the teaching of the CorpsCadet material.
Yeah, you want to talk about?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
that just a little bit, of course.
Yeah, so for the 13 to 25 agegroup, we are going to be doing
kind of an intro to Corps Cadetsfor them as well, knowing that
we do have some really faithfulcore cadet brigades across the
division, and so this isn't atime to take that away from them
, but something that we view asa supplement to that and to help
enhance their conversationsthat they're having at their

(26:30):
core, and also for those youngpeople that are here that maybe
don't have a core cadet grouphappening at their core, a way
just to get some exposure tothat, get their feet wet, and I
mean it's fantastic curriculum,it's a great opportunity to just
come alongside our young peopleand disciple them and encourage
them, and so we're lookingforward to having them all here
together to study in community.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, Dynamic duo Neil and Nate.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, Neil's the best man.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
He's so good, he is Neil Weld's Kroc Center.
He's the best.
Anytime we can kind of tie somethings together at events that
we're doing, I think it justkind of solidifies, fortifies
the purpose of us comingtogether.
And so I'm really excited aboutthat Territorial event coming
up we have on October 4th isSinging Stars.
They started this a handful ofyears ago to kind of compliment.

(27:15):
The New York staff band hasbeen doing future all-stars for
brass players for a long time.
The New York staff band hasbeen doing future all-stars for
brass players for a long time.
But the ETSS, the EasternTerritorial Staff Songsters,
basically the adult choir of theterritory for the Salvation
Army, has started singing starsso they have young people from
around the territory come out toStar Lake Camp at the

(27:35):
conference center they get tosing with the ETSS.
I almost said three S's.
It almost fell out, but theyhave a really great weekend and
we do have some delegates fromMassachusetts that will be going
down with Chris Molinaro andthey're going to have a
fantastic weekend.
So we'll hear more about thatsoon.
Loretta, you have, I believe,candidates Seminar.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
That's right.
Same weekend is the CandidatesSeminar, so that will be
happening in Suffern New Yorkfrom October 4th to the 6th.
Is that that Friday?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
to Sunday.
Can you tell us, can you tellthe listeners, what a candidate
is?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Sure, a candidate is someone who has identified that
the Lord has called them tofull-time ministry.
So, within the Salvation Army,a candidate is someone who has
identified the Lord has calledme to this specific purpose, and
they are in the process ofbecoming a cadet, which is a
first-year seminary student atthe College for Officer Training
.
And so this weekend is a littlebit broader than just narrowing

(28:41):
down one calling.
You know, because our God is acreative God.
Our God calls everyone toindividual purposes, otherwise
God would be a very boring God.
But this is just a weekend thatis focused on kind of taking
all the other stuff away, theclutter away, the, the
distractions away, and like whatis God calling you to?

(29:03):
Um, and if it's full-timeministry, here's the Avenue.
If it's local leadership withinyour core, here's the Avenue.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
And, and so it's, it's um so this is intentional,
so this is not just for peoplewho are thinking about
officership.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
No, no it is.
I don't think I knew that it's.
You know, in the past, I thinkback when, even when we were
younger and going to thisweekend, it was there was kind
of a idea of one track.
But in recent years that's Imean, that's been expanded to
understand that.
Um, you know, that's whythere's multiple tracks that
people can choose from for theweekend.

(29:37):
You can choose different tracksto be a part of.
Whether you are this, is itGod's calling me to?
This?
I know, before I go into theweekend, I'm going to this
accepting track, or I'm reallynot sure, but I also don't
really know what my purpose isor what God's calling me to.
So I'm going to this exploringtrack and it's a little broader
now, which I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, we recognize that some people are called to
go to pick up and to go and somepeople are called to stay and
be faithful where they are, intheir own sphere of ministry, at
their local core.
So it's just a time toencourage and to seek the Lord's
face and get some confirmationas to where he may be leading.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's great and I think about, like your, your dad
, who was definitely called tostay.
But there was a calling in thatand I think of my parents that
never officers, but called to bestrong local leaders.
Like that's just as importantas us who are transient and come
and go, but there is a callingin people who are called to stay
.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, I uh I'm going to talk about this later in my
kind of devotional thought formyself Um, but I'm going on 14
years living in the Boston areaand by far that's the longest
I've ever been in one place.
So just talking about stayingrooting, kind of being effective
where you are, if that's yourcalling and it isn't for
everyone there is a place foryou.

(30:52):
I think the registration forthis year is closed.
Yes, but if you want to go inthe future, how would someone
get in touch with you?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
They can either email me I'm not going to.
I'll put my email somewhere onInstagram or something, because
it's a long one.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, we'll have
it on the screen.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, or you can always reach out to us on our
MassYouth Instagram, massyouth,facebook, and also would love to
, you know, meet up for lunch,coffee, dinner and just chat,
because the process is just asequally relational as it is
paperwork based.
And so it starts withconversation.
So love to do that.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Awesome.
We have two more events we wantto mention.
Nate, we have Young Adult BibleStudy coming up in the middle
of October.
I believe it's October 18th.
Yes, just give us a briefing onthat.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So we do Young Adult Bible Studies at our in Sharon,
massachusetts, which is always anice little intimate setting
where we come together with foodand fellowship and look to
God's word, uh, for a little bitof the evening there.
And so, um, this year we'relooking to do a study on the
book of Acts, uh, which I'mreally excited about just how we
can be missional where we areand how God uh, really just

(31:59):
tying into that how we, we arecalled to ministry wherever it
is that the Lord places our feet.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Acts is crazy, like there's a.
There's a lot of stuff thatgoes on in Acts, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
And so it's.
It's not like you don't have tobe a pastor to be in ministry,
because God calls each one of usto be missional where we are,
and so we're going to be lookingat that and just spending time
together in community, sharingfood and, uh, just encouraging
one another.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Last thing I have on my list uh, we have Friday night
fellowship for the young adultBible study.
Sorry, what's the age kind offor that?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
So that's after high school.
So college or high schoolgraduates and up and kind of,
and I think the oldest one thatcomes is probably 30 ish.
But you can keep if you'reolder than 30, come on out too.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I am older.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I'm older than 30.
So I still want to considermyself a young adult.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
We'll see.
There's like some magical,there's not.
I feel like there's no hardnumber, but there's like some
number where you just becomeadult and you're just like oh
crap.
Where is the line?
I'm not a young adult anymore.
Um and then.
So October 25th, we have Fridaynight fellowship.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yes, now, friday night fellowship is, uh, we try
to do it at least a few times inthe fall and then in the spring
as well, and this is gearedtowards, uh, individuals that
are in that, uh, I don't know,later middle school or later
elementary middle school age,something specific for them, um,
uh, and so what we're going todo for our October gathering, on

(33:20):
the 25th, is we're going to puttogether a fall fest, fall
festival, complete with all thefall things you know pumpkins,
apple cider, flannel, all thegreat things that moms, good
moms, scarecrows, I don't know,whatever, whatever you can think
of fall we're going to, we'regoing to try to put that
together and have just a goodtime of fellowship together, and

(33:41):
we'll be scheduling some more.
Some more information will comeout about location and
expectations for that.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Nice Costumes, yes, why not?
Okay, good, I'm just checkingit's pretty close to Halloween.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Leonard Bernstein, would that be your costume?
Your hero?
Here he goes, maybe.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I was just thinking I'm I.
We need to wear costumes on onhalloween this year.
I'm just gonna spice things upat dhq oh, should we have.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
We should have a plugged in podcast costume
costume party, yeah done yeah,I'm not gonna be learned
although that white jumpsuitthat he's famous for pretty
iconic yeah, it is we were inpetco the other day and jackson
saw several dog costumes pizzatacos like I want to be this.
I'm like it's a dog it's a dogcostume I don't even know where

(34:26):
caleb learned this word, but forlike the last three weeks he's
just.
I want to be a skeleton forhalloween and I just like, I'm
like okay and then.
So we went to target and hefound this like glow-in-the-dark
, like rainbow skeleton, likethat's.
There was no getting him offthat.
But the funnier one was we gottarget.
Mckenzie like disappearedaround the corner for a second.

(34:46):
Also, she won't ride in the caranymore because she sees Caleb
walking and running around.
So we went to target.
It was like crazy.
But McKenzie scoots around thecorner and I'm just like, hey,
we're okay.
And she comes back one secondlater in her two little arms and
she comes back one second later.
I love her In her two littlearms.
She's rocking back and forth.
She picked up two candy bucketsthat are like metallic rainbow

(35:07):
skulls, but she was justwaddling down the aisle and for
whatever reason, she knew tograb two of them One for her and
one for Caleb.
I looked at Heather and I waslike we're not buying these, and
then we bought them.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I was going to say you bought them.
They clearly match his costume,which is what mackenzie was
thinking exactly she had all she, she had it down, she knew.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So those are the events uh we have coming up.
That covers us, I think,through the end of october,
because again, I'm not gonnapromise that we're gonna be
recording, uh every week orevery other week.
So if you don't hear from usagain, uh, for 215 days.
We've listed the events throughOctober.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
We've covered the next month and a half.
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Uh, we do have a rapid fire question around Um.
Who wants to go first on this?
I think we each put togetherthree questions.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, I can go first.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, you go first.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, first, matt, I have three questions for you oh,
I'm ready, ready.
Invisibility or super strengthsuper strength.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Why invisibility feels creepy?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I was gonna say that like it feels.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
It feels like it feels like you would want to be
invisible to do things thatyou're not supposed to be doing
you'd be like you know, stealingfood or something, or I don't.
I don't know what the like yeahyeah, so I'm going super
strength all right, no morequestions on.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That leads right into my next question.
Okay, what is something thatyou could eat for a week
straight?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
oh, pizza I was gonna say pizza too, so many
different toppings like easy.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I could go way more than a week, way more than a
week.
That's good nate will be likewe just had pizza.
I'm like I don't care, I couldhave it again yeah, okay, last
question yep what are the fivenfl teams with an animal in the
logo that are not bird, cat orhuman?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
bird cat or human I found this one online with an
animal yeah, an animal.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Five nfl teams that are not bird, cat or human, like
no panthers, no eagles wow,this should take me a while.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Uh, chicago bears.
Yep, a lion is a cat it's gonnatake a while um Seahawks
Falcons, those are birds.
Panther is a cat, Jaguar is acat.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You're doing good though.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Let's see Phone a friend Phone a friend, the
Commanders, the Giants, theEagles and the what.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
You said Giants, go north.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, I was going by division.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh sorry, I'm like well Asian.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Well okay, no, I was going by division oh sorry, I'm
like location.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, okay, north of.
Well, it's not the Patriots, no, that's human.
Thank you, cleveland Browns.
Those are human Kansas CityChiefs, not an animal.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
You're naming all of them, except I've got one so far
, this is awful.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Everyone except for all.
Right, can you tell me whichconference?
No, I can't, okay, I don't know.
The conference Houston Texansalso people.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Nate might be able to say that 49ers people.
Nate, tell them the conference.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
AFC South.
Afc South, that's like my worstdivision, tennessee Titans Wait
.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Sorry, afc East Bro, my bad.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
AFC East.
So the Jets, not an animal.
Patriots, not an animal Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Bills.
Yes, that's two.
That was my north clue.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Okay, and then who am I forgetting?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Dolphins Miami.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Dolphins.
Okay, I got three, here we goTwo more.
Hit me another division, thathelped.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Sorry, those were the two I but you have.
You can't look at your ears nolonger rapid fire sorry, afc
west afc west broncos

Speaker 1 (38:43):
yes nfc west, nfc west.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So that's the rams yeah, that was pretty rapid,
quicker than I would have beenall right, I'm proud of myself I
mean it's nfl season.
I gotta yeah, yeah, yeah tisthe season.
I think we all picked afootball question, so oh good,
good yeah, all right, am I goingfor Nate, too.
Should I do Nate?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
too.
You want to do someone, I'll gofor it.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Would you rather be able to speak every language in
the world or talk to animals?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh, definitely every language in the world.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay, enough said, I'm not going to ask anymore.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Name the eight NFL teams that end in E-R-S Steelers
Yep Commanders.
Yep Eight Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Ears, ears, ears, ears Chargers.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yep Chargers.
We need some background music.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
This is why I got this.
Yes, a little distracting.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, it's done, so good yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Panthers.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh, yeah, good one.
Sorry, thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Two more.
I don't know what on my listYou've said and not.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Oh, I do.
49ers AFC West.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Niners and one more I said chargers oh, you said
concentration face.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, I lost track of what he said I know I'm like
actively trying to okay who haveI said, who didn't.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I say okay, so you said chargers, commanders,
steelers, niners, panthers,buccaneers, packers I didn't say
packers, oh, wait, did you sayraiders?
No either I counted wrong or Iruined rolling back.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
What did I do?
All?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
right last question what's your favorite game day
tradition?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
my favorite game day tradition thank you for
repeating well, first of all, Iwatch football games standing in
front of the TV the whole time.
I can't sit, because if I sit,if I sit, my team does not play
well.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
The moment I stand up .

Speaker 3 (40:56):
TJ Watt gets a sack.
I don't know what it is.
We have this connection.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So yesterday's, like I think they won because I was
standing, I don't think it's atradition.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
I just think it's an obligation now so, but my
favorite tradition is chilichili on game days.
After church, come home, nice,pot of chili.
Uh yeah, I put on my, put on myJersey.
Sometimes I wave the towel.
Terrible towel, nice, I'm anobnoxious fan that you don't
want to watch football with heyall right.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
There's my questions.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Okay, I have three questions.
Hey, it's all right, there's myquestions.
Okay, I have three questions.
Sorry, that was not rapid.
No, it's okay.
Um, the first one is easy, kindof boring, but has to do with
my vacation.
So for both of you, beachvacation or mountain resort not
even a resort, I'm a mountainretreat.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I meant like I instantly go to beach.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, um, I.
I think I would normally saybeach, but I I went skiing for
the first time not too long agoand I really enjoyed it and I
think I would like to go to alegit like ski resort.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, mountains nice backtracking just a little bit
uh with your football stuff.
Who the stealers like the mosthated rival, the team you hate
the most the team that I don'tlike the most the ravens oh, the
ravens well, the browns aren'ta threat to me.
Okay, ravens okay, that setsthis up.
Perfect.
Okay, you have to choose one oftwo things.
This is for Nate only theSteelers win an NFL championship

(42:16):
is your first choice.
Or your son, jackson is draftedby the Steelers as a fifth
round pick in the NFL, is thenreleased by the Steelers.
They let him go.
He's picked up by the Ravensand in the AFC championship game

(42:36):
the Ravens defeat the Steelersto go on and Jackson wins a
Super Bowl championship as amember of the Ravens.
Which one do you pick?
So that's a big scenario.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I have a lot of faith in my son, jackson, and I think
that he would be cheering forthe steelers even while winning
the super bowl.
So, as a ravens, yes, asemployed.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
That's not the answer , the question.
Stop finding the loop which one?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
you have to choose one either.
Jackson wins a super bowlchampionship with the ravens
with the ravens or the steelers.
Win a championship, you get toexperience a Steelers
championship.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Oh, I've experienced them, so I'll go with Jackson.
Okay, all right, good answerdad.
Because you know that is a oncein a lifetime family moment,
yeah, and career moment for him.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Would you wear Jackson's jersey?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I'd wear his jersey, but I'd wear like Heinzman on
the back and probably like X outthe Ravens on the front.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Okay, all right.
Last question is for Loretta.
I don't know, okay, if youcould be best friends with only
one member of the Friends cast,who would it be, and why?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
That's a fantastic question.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
And like we're just going to assume that like you
don't ever get a chance to meetany of the rest of them, but you
are legitimate coffee bestieson a regular basis with one cast
member.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
So the character, not the actors.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
No, no, no.
Let's go with the character.
The character yeah, I wasthinking character Yep.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
One character, ugh, I don't know, this is like-.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Pretty tough.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
This is tough.
First, I'm thinking Phoebewould be hilarious.
All the time I definitely ammore of a Rachel.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Also OCD Monica, she's struggling.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I am?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I'm really struggling , joey, all of them.
I'm going to go, rachel.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Rachel, yep Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I feel like we'd vibe yeah, yeah, there'd be vibes
there, okay.
But I'm also thinking, joey, no, I'm going to go, rachel.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I couldn't do Joey, I couldn't.
I would get tired of it.
I would like I couldn't.
Chandler would be my friend.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, chandler.
No, you and Chandler wouldfight all the time.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, but it'd be sarcasm.
It'd be good fighting.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
And you don't know, man, I'm with, I'm with her on
this, thank you, okay.
You got some nate.
I do.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yes, okay, sorry, I forgot that I had questions all
right, matt for you what issomething that you consider to
be entirely overrated, butsomething that seemingly
everyone else enjoys.
But you can't stand it, oryou're just like that's pretty
subpar oh my goodness, I needsome time to think about that.
Um, completely overrated butevery but everyone else loves

(45:18):
yeah like something that people,a trend or a food or an
experience that everyone's likethis is so great and you're just
like, yeah, it's not that greatI'm gonna get some real hate
for from this, but it's thefirst thing I can think of
taylor swift I knew you weregonna say that sorry
I'm gonna pack this up, she'sout she's out, sorry, all right,
all right, um, she's betterthan most too, but like I mean

(45:40):
she, she like writes her ownstuff which is pretty she's,
she's incredibly talented yeah,okay, next question all right,
uh soundtrack to your life, andwhy oh?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
man I.
I tried to direct him to not soserious questions.
That's not serious no, it's,it's good, it's just thought,
thought, what's the word?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
um soundtracks my life and why, um, I think if I
had like a spotify playlist oflike, uh like, john williams
yeah I think that covers so muchemotional ground that you could
fill up every moment of yourlife with a John Williams theme
from one of his movies.
So I think that I'm going withthe John Williams playlist.

(46:19):
That's great.
I think that would cover quitea bit.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Cool, cool.
Sorry, I don't want to get toodeep on the question no, it's
fine, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I'm just messing.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Do you want me to go with question three?
Let's hear it.
All right, Something that youwould tell to 15-year-old Matt
if you could go back in time.
Oh man 15-year-old Matt.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well, when I was 15, nothing was.
I wasn't serious about anythingyet.
Yeah, even like my music stuff,like I think I was good and
like I knew I was good, but youhave no idea, like the level of
work, yeah, that it takes to bea professional or like.

(47:01):
So I like didn't really take itseriously until maybe into my
halfway through my sophomoreyear of college.
Yeah, so like all through highschool it just like I don't know
.
I mean, it's just something fun.
That's not really great advice.
Like get more serious to a 15year old.
Shape up.
Come on, bro.
I'm not sure if I could go back.
I mean we talked about myhealth earlier.
I think if I could go back andjust say and just not even say

(47:25):
things, but help educate.
Say things, but help educate.
I don't think I maybe knewenough.
Yeah, uh, information aboutjust how to, well, how, like
everyone's, everyone's differentand everyone's metabolism and
the way they you know, I justyeah, if I could go back, I feel
like there are things in mylife that I have uh missed out
on because I've made choices toexclude myself from things,

(47:50):
because I've been self-consciousabout my weight or about my
like strength or ability toparticipate in things, like I've
seen friends do like five K'sand do different kinds of trips,
or I've always been likeself-conscious about swimming in
the water without my shirt on,like there's a whole lot of like
like body issues.
I guess if I go back and belike 15 year old matt, there's

(48:10):
still time yeah, like yeah,right, the shit buddy.
Yeah, that's good yeah that isgood.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Anyways, that's mine nice oh boy all right that's the
bar would you rather the jetswin one super bowl and then
consistently finish last everyseason?
For the rest, of your life.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
22 years of my life.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Or make the playoffs every single season and be
competitive, but never win theSuperbowl.
So it's basically just you getall the hate from Patriots fans
every single year of your life,except for one.
Or every year you can say, hey,we're pretty decent in the
standings, but you don't win.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Oof, I don't know.
I feel like I would ratherexperience one and then just get
the first round draft pickevery year.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
And know that they're always going to be bust.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I don't know because I feel like, even with the Mets,
that's been what.
What was it?
The 2016 World Series againstthe Royals we've always come up
short, and that's just aterrible feeling to always be
like almost, but to experienceone, and then I would have zero
expectations.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I'd be like that's fine with me nice, that's a good
question thanks for writing it,sorry if you were arrested,
what would it be for and whowould bail you out?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
you better bail me out.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
That's the answer to that depends, depends if you're
arrested for beating me up orsomething I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I have no idea what I'd be arrested for.
Uh, uh, I don't know.
I have no idea what I'd bearrested for.
I don't know, I don't know, Ihave no idea.
All right, think about that oneStealing.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Pray about it Stealing what are you stealing?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I don't know.
It wouldn't be like murder, butI don't know what it would be.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You can get arrested for some crazy stuff like filing
your taxes incorrectly, that'snot what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Okay, keep going all right.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
One last question, serious question what
significant thing would you liketo accomplish in the next 10
years?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
wow, 10 years.
Um, I am not entirely sure.
Part of me thinks I would liketo, at that point in 10 years,
maybe be working towards like amaster's degree.
But then the right now part ofme is like, oh heck, no, don't

(50:39):
add that to your schedule.
But I think that's a goal thatI would like to achieve, but I'm
not like hard pressed on it.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Nice, I like that.
Good job, bravo that was a goodjob.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Bravo, that was a long rapid fire.
It was a long rapid fire.
I don't want to say nate'ssecond question was the worst of
all time.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
But no, I'm just kidding I'm like I don't know
what I'd be.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
The only thing I'm thinking of is like murder and
stealing and I'm like I guess Iwith stealing, parking ticket,
violations that you just don'tpay, I don't know there's other
things that aren't like I'd bemaybe that Cause I'd like forget
to do something.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sorry, I'm not going toactively.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
You can.
You can scrub that from therecord.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
No, no, it's good, it's on the record we're Now.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
We'll be able to go back and listen to it, man.
That was a terrible segmentthen and now.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
So we have just a couple of devotional words
around the table.
I'll start.
I don't really have I wassaying to Nate off the air.
I feel like God's trying totell me something.
I don't necessarily I'm notattaching it right now to
scripture or something that I'veread recently, but it's just a
thought in my mind that has justkind of like been.

(51:51):
It honestly came about on thevacation to Switzerland and kind
of the solitude and the peaceand being up in those mountains
and kind of admiring the beautyand stuff.
I just feel like God was tellingme to be quiet and to settle
down and be present, be in themoment, and not I'm just always,

(52:17):
I've always been the person.
What's next?
Where am I going next?
What's the next thing?
What do I want to accomplish?
Like, how am I working towardsthat?
And I just feel like on thatvacation there was two things.
One, uh, what I just said bepresent, be still, uh, take some
time listening, stop talking somuch and stop doing, stop

(52:41):
trying to just go, go, go, go,go, Uh.
But the other one was, um, toappreciate the moments that
you're in and to just kind of bepresent is what I said.
But whether it's time with mywife, time with my kids, time
with my friends.
I don't need to always bethinking about what is next, but

(53:04):
appreciating.
What's that line from theOffice from Andy Bernard?
How do you recognize?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You're living the good days before they're.
Yeah, the good old days, thegood old days.
How do you?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
recognize that you're in the good old days before
they pass you by yeah.
So I feel like in the past I'vereally been dwelling on
challenges that God haspresented me, challenges that
God has presented me, and I'mtrying to turn my perspective,
uh, into a way of of gratitudefor those challenges.

(53:40):
Uh, because I feel like I havebeen immensely, uh, blessed with
good things in my life, but Iwant to see the challenges as
blessings as well, and so whereI'm at, I'm trying to sit and be
comfortable and not abandon mydesire or pursuit for
accomplishment or doing my best.
I'm not going to stop doing mybest, but I'm going to be more.

(54:01):
I'm trying to be more contentwith what is in the present and
appreciating it and being inthat moment.
So that's just kind of likewhere my vacation took me.
That's awesome.
And I did come back, uh, excitedto come into work, yeah, and I
can't say that I've always, like, had that feeling coming off a

(54:21):
break and I walked in and I wasjust like I I want to, I want to
be positive, I want to be aforce for good and I want to try
to maintain positivity andhappiness and just appreciate
both accomplishment andstruggles for what they are and
yeah, so that's just kind ofagain, I don't know if that's

(54:43):
biblical or spiritual, but Ifeel like God has been saying
those things to me just in mythoughts and in my alone time,
and just so.
Yeah, that's, that's where I'mat, it's good.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
That kind of we don't plan or talk through our
devotional thoughts in advance,but that kind of lines up with
exactly what I was.
Oops.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
No, which is awesome, I think.
No, it's fine, our family, mygrandmother, my dad's mom, her
maiden name was Courage and soit's kind of become a family
name.
So my dad is Peter Courage, mybrother is Peter Courage, All my
nephews on my side are JudahCourage, august Courage, jackson

(55:30):
Courage.
So it's kind of like our thing.
People don't understand itunless you know the whatever.
So I'm always drawn to thecourage word.
But there's a devotional seriesthat I was doing on the Bible
app called Courageous Peace, andit just drew me in because I
was kind of like that'sinteresting.
I wouldn't think courageous andpeace necessarily go together

(55:52):
when you think about the terms,but the scripture that
accompanied one of the days ofthis devotional series was
Philippians 4.
And I'm going to read themessage translation.
It says fret or worry Insteadof worrying, pray.
Let petitions and praises shapeyour worries into prayers,
letting God know your concernsBefore you know it, a sense of

(56:15):
God's wholeness, everythingcoming together for good, will
come and settle you down.
It's wonderful what happenswhen Christ displays worry at
the center of your life,displaces worry at the center of
your life.
Life, this place is worry atthe center of your life, and I
too tend to be, I'd say, anoverthinker and a worrier.
Just I don't know if that hasbeen kind of more so, being a

(56:40):
mom Like I wasn't always such amaybe not anxious, but I wasn't
always such a worried thinker,and I think a lot of that comes
with motherhood as well.
But I do tend to focus on someof those failures and worries.
And I was reminded yesterdayeven when scripture talks about
tomorrow, it's not a 24-hourtomorrow, but tomorrow could

(57:01):
mean, when I'm 45 years old,tomorrow's not time-based, but
just this idea of worrying aboutthings that are beyond my
control.
And there's a quote by CorrieTen Boom that says worrying is
carrying tomorrow's load withtoday's strength.
Carrying two days at once.
It's moving into tomorrow aheadof time.

(57:22):
Worry does not empty tomorrowof sorrow, but it empties today
of strength.
So I think it's just for methis idea of how worrying pulls
my focus off of the Lord and howworrying also robs even the
challenges of its potential tokind of recenter.

(57:45):
And I just love, I love themessage translation of of
certain things, but just thatidea of, um, let petitions and
praises shape your worries, uminto prayers.
So that's kind of just where myhead's at and I just kind of re
reaffirmed by some of thethings you were saying as well.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I feel like worrying is something so relatable.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
It like invades everyone's space right but it's
usually stuff that you feelpowerless or things that you
feel powerless over, yeah, thatyou can't.
Or maybe, if you have somepower over it, it's not complete
power.
It's like it depends on someother circumstance or person
it's, but in a lot of cases,worrying is like stuff that you
just can't control.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, it invades your space, invades your mind yeah
so to twist that into petitions,into prayers like giving it to
god, and the way that worry likespills over into other years of
our life, where it affects ourfamily members and our and our
children, who we try to shieldfrom the stresses and anxieties
like well, you find you, yeah,you'll, like you know, respond

(58:47):
to your spouse in a short way,or you're like there's, there's
just that like worry hasinfiltrated who.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
You are Right and it comes out in ways that you don't
want it to.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, and usually it's in relationships that you
feel you can be the mostvulnerable.
So it's your marriage, it'syour kids and and I found with
jackson in school he's worryingin the mornings.
He is saying I don't want to goto school, like he'll just drop
these little one-liners likeschool's boring.
But I feel the need toovercompensate and be like

(59:19):
you're gonna have so much funand and so I'm like I like this
version of me yeah that's justmuch more uh able to spin his
worry into something fun.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
And so, like I thought about that again this
morning, I was like man, I, Ilike this, I like not letting
the worries define the directionof my day.
Um, which usually it's Sundaymorning, is a disaster day for
me.
Just everything goes wrong onSunday mornings for me and I
just become the worst version ofmyself.
I feel like most families.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Okay, I mean most families.
It's so true, it's like that'slike one of the sticking points
of like church in the morning onthe weekend.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
It's tough, it's not.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I remember disastrous days as a kid you know, like my
, my dad was a different guywhen it was just like we'll be
in the car in 15 minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
You're going to go to church and like it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
You got mismatching socks on and like pancakes are
being thrown around.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
And like, yeah, and the coffee dumps all over the
front of your shirt, yeah, thatwas all the other week for me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
But yeah, so that's just like something.
It can externally seem sotrivial, like obviously don't
worry, but when you're in themoment and it's consuming you
and it is taking control of yourmind and your heart and your
attitude, and just you'respiraling down, it's just how
can I, how can I stop beingcontrolled by this and this is

(01:00:41):
my big thing this year formyself Well, how can I stop
being controlled by the chaosand control it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
And so to me that's just kind of just those small
moments of surrender.
But, stop finding that peace.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I like how you said that you redirect Jackson by
saying this is what's today'sgoing to be great Like look
forward to this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
You have gym class.
You love gym and that'sliterally.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
What God does for us is that he takes that worry and
he redirects it.
But look at this, look at mygoodness, look at how I'm here,
look at how I'm available, andreshapes that and reforms it.
So the same thing that we do asparents, god lovingly does to
us, which is incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
All right, you're up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
All right.
I was looking at a familiarpassage from Matthew 4, 18-22,
and it's the calling of thefirst disciples, and I just want
to read from the message,paraphrase just two verses here.
Walking along the beach of LakeGalilee, jesus saw two brothers
, simon, who he later calledPeter and Andrew.
They were fishing, throwingtheir nets into the lake.

(01:01:47):
It was their regular work.
Jesus said to them come with me, I'll make a new kind of
fishermen out of you.
I'll show you how to catch menand women instead of fish.
They didn't ask questions, butsimply dropped their nets and
followed.
I was thinking a lot about thatlast sentence there, about
dropping their nets, andthinking about who these men

(01:02:08):
were, peter and Andrew, and how,as fishermen, their nets were.
That was their entire source ofwho they were.
That was their identity.
Without their nets, theywouldn't be effective in
anything that they did.
That was their livelihood, and Iwas trying to equate that to my
life and trying to think oflike what are the nets in my

(01:02:29):
life that I cling to so tightly?
That if I they're my familiarspace, my comfortable space, the
things that I rely on to get byeach and every day, that God
might be asking me to set downso that I can follow him in
obedience.
And it doesn't have to be badthings I'm not talking about
struggles or bad habits ormindsets but even those things

(01:02:52):
that are good, the talents, thegifts, the opportunities that I
cling to so tightly for mywell-being, my motivation, my
goals, my desires andaspirations.
But maybe God said, hey, I wantto reshift your purpose a bit
and I want to open your eyes tosomething different, because it
wasn't essentially that theywere doing anything wrong.

(01:03:13):
Right, the nets weren't bad yeahno, it wasn't a bad thing, but
it was.
You focused so much of yourlife for this purpose.
But I want to take what you'vemastered, I want to take what
you know and I want to use thatin a way that's going to expand
my kingdom in a way that you'venever imagined, and expand how I

(01:03:34):
can use you in this season ofyour life in a new and powerful
way.
And I'm just thinking aboutthat and I think if we were to
internalize that we all knowthose areas of our life that God
may be asking for a deepersurrender, and it can be those
things that we struggle with,but it can also be those good
things and it can be God.
How can you use my gifts and mytalents in a new way, not for

(01:03:56):
myself, but for you?
Or where are you calling me out?
Into an unfamiliar space whereit might be a little
uncomfortable, where you'reasking me to put myself out
there in faith, believing thatyou want to reshift and
reprioritize and do somethingincredible?
And I was just thinking aboutthat.
I was thinking about my lifeand I was thinking about
Candidate Seminar this weekendand how there will be people

(01:04:19):
from all across the territorycoming together really
discovering who they are inChrist and discovering how he
can continue to shape theirpurpose in a way that brings
glory to God and leaves animpact on the world around them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I think it's just something that we can constantly
revisit as believers, to sayhow is the purpose that God has
called me to?
How is that aligning with theway that I live my life each and
every day?
Am I clinging to the familiarwhere God has asked me to go
into deeper waters and drop thenet, or, yeah, I think that's

(01:04:55):
just what God's been stirring inmy heart?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
It's interesting that you so I don't know, I can't
remember now if this was in thescripture or if you added this,
but you focused on the nets andthat being the identity, but
right before that, did you addthis, or is it in there?
It said without questioning, ohyeah, it said they didn't ask
any questions.
That's what I like.
So you focus on the back halfand I was just like God asked me

(01:05:20):
to do something different.
They didn't question it.
Like this, like that level offaith that this was the guy yeah
, you know, I'm going to followhim at all costs, like that's.
That's to me.
That's like stunning yeah, one.
I mean it's stunning to to useyour talents and reshape your

(01:05:40):
identity and who you are.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
To do without questioning is like a that's
counter to who we are as people.
Yeah, yeah, I don't open anemail without questioning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I know Right, right, yeah, no, you read that.
I was like wow, withoutquestioning oh, yeah, yeah, they
did it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
And we live in an age where it's like question
everything, yeah, yeah, and it'sokay, use your voice, and we're
not discouraging that in anyway, but to have the confidence
and the courage to that theyknew he could be trusted and
they knew that his way and hisplan for them was greater than

(01:06:12):
what they had in that moment.
And so do we have the sameconfidence and trust to, to
believe that whatever God iscalling us into or to step into
um that we can do so withoutquestioning his motivation or
whether or not he'll be therethrough the process.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Where do you feel like you're at personally with
that?
I think I go sorry'll be therethrough the process.
Where do you feel like you'reat personally with that?
I think I go sorry, to put youon the spot.
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I think, I think I go through different seasons of it
.
Yeah, I think there are times,um, in community, uh, where I
think at camp, where I'msurrounded by this beautiful
community and I believe that I'mI'm walking fully in the
purpose, that God has designedme and created me to be in that
type of affirming environment.
And I think, when we step backinto different seasons of life

(01:06:52):
and we allow I don't know maybesituations that we don't
necessarily enjoy as much asother settings.
We can question why am I here?
What am I doing?
Am I wasting time?
And I think that that's whereGod says you know, I didn't call
you to be comfortable, but Icalled you to be obedient where
you are.

(01:07:13):
And I think he, I think I gothrough these seasons where I
see or I feel fulfilled inministry and maybe opportunities
where God was like well, you'reholding too close to that
comfort or that mindset and Iwant to challenge that a bit.
I feel like we all.
I want to challenge that a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, and I feel like we all I mean everyone goes
through seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
You know that's like not unusual to any one person.
No, but, no, um, and I feellike summertime, at least for
all of us.
It just is like it's adifferent beast it is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
It's not real life when you were just saying off
air that our summers are sosimilar but so different.
We can occupy the same spacebut not interact at all, just
because it's similar.
But I don't know, it's wild,it's wild no-transcript.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
These were my nets for this season of my life, but
maybe you're asking me to laythese nets down and pick up
these new ones because you'repreparing me for something
different.
And so just having thewillingness and the obedience to
trust, whatever the season is,even if it's completely
unfamiliar and new, believingthat the one who called you is
faithful through the processyeah, Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Well said.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Rita, do you mind closing us in prayer today?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Would love to let me just cough here, Sorry, Wait.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Great job.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Good joke, let's pray .
Father, I just thank you for um.
Even selfishly, I thank you forthis ministry um that Matt and
Nate and I have, and I thank you, lord, for the opportunity that
we have to um to fellowship, tobe a be a presence to people,

(01:09:29):
to people, in this interestingway.
Lord, I just pray for theindividuals who are under the
sound of my voice, who mayberesonated with something today.
Maybe there is that worrythat's just weighing heavy.
Maybe there is something newthat's coming along, coming down

(01:09:54):
the road that there's hesitancy.
Maybe there's just the feelingof being consumed by chaos and
not experiencing peace in a trueway.
Lord, I just pray for thatperson.
I pray for your voice to be theloudest in their ear.

(01:10:18):
Father, I pray that you wouldsilence the, the voice of Satan
that wants to discourage andhold us back, and I pray that
you, lord, would be the trueword in our ear to remind us of
your promise that you will neverforsake us, that you do have
hope and a future, that you dodesire peace for us, that you do

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desire wholeness for us.
So, lord, I just thank you forthe opportunity that we have to
not only encourage each otheraround this table, but to be
encouraged by your word and toencourage others because of your
word.
So, lord, just thank you forthis time, thank you for the
season that we are currently in.
We praise you for even thechallenge that might be facing

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us today, and we just ask thatyou would reveal further reveal
the blessing um that lays beforeus.
Um, maybe it's difficult to see, maybe it's easy to see, but
Lord, would you reveal it to ustoday.
Father, we love you.
Um, we thank you that you areour God.
Your name we pray, amen.
Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Amen.
Thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yeah, amen, thanks guys.
Yeah, all right, it's good tobe back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Episode 19.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
So I'm going to pull out my calendar 215 days from
now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Should we lock in our next episode?
What will happen in?

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
215 days, that's true .
So much stuff went down.
What could happen?
Well, we'll have a newpresident.
I mean, we'll have, yeah, we'llhave a new president.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah, we'll have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, we'll have a new president yeah, yeah, either
way, christmas, one way to gocrazy in 250 days?

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
that's probably true.
Yeah, christmas, new president,um well, probably another super
bowl.
Yeah, will taylor swift andtravis kelsey make it?
Yes, are they.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
You think so, you think it's real love, I do, I
love, love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
It's been a while now They've been together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Defied the odds.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Well, they've defied the odds.
Yes, can't let that one go Allthe suspect, or whatever.
Anyways, episode 19 of thePlugged In Podcast.
Thank you to all our listenersout there joining us today.
We'll be back soon with episode20.
I won't say when it will be,but we will be back.
Look out for it.
A lot of great stuff coming up.
So we will see you next time.